 So Utopia for me is probably bringing the first time where I've experienced this sense of an entrepreneurial space mixed with entrepreneurship and innovation management regarding the SDGs. So this is my first experience working with these methodologies of the hackathon. And what we are tackling on this hackathon is how to solve the problems that public and private partnerships are facing regarding good distribution. We have talked to many experts like one public procurer from the University of Gothenburg, also with another stakeholder and now we have just have a keynote speech from one guy that it was like really an expert. So I'm learning a lot of things from this world of also like logistic distribution and how that affects our planet. So I'm asking the students just to which are your insights or write them down. You have two minutes to think about them, you have two minutes to discuss them, you have two minutes to present them. So I think it was like for us very surprising at first that this was expected to be in Gothenburg but now it's becoming online and that for like at first it seemed like kind of awkward that something that was supposed to be like a lot of students in Gothenburg is going to be just in a room with five of us. But I think like it's turning pretty well. In our team at the UPF team we have joined a student from VUB, the University of Brussels, Jasmine, which is also collaborating with us in our team. So I think what mainly it brings to us is as I said the experience of getting to know other cultures but mainly focusing on very important topics that maybe we have seen in our degrees respectively around sustainability, also like project development and management. I think it's very important for the professional careers. So this started like two and a half years ago when we decided that we were going to do an open innovation challenge program with our students. So what we first did is to try to tackle which were the our challenges regarding SDGs. So the experience is not winning the hackathon but all the learnings that they are doing in a very intense process in three days. So they started yesterday they had no idea what a public procurement was and so 24 hours later I think I can tell that they at least they have very small notions but notions of public procurement and European stakeholders.