 After World War II, a team of young Australian migration officers was sent to Europe to interview post-war refugees to gauge their suitability as migrants to Australia. These men were called on to make very difficult decisions, as Harold describes. Well, I've never forgotten a Polish couple. The children had gone a year before to Australia, had settled in well, but they were on a landing permit arrangement to be reunited with their son and his family in Australia, but it was established that the father had tuberculosis, that it was active, and the conclusion was that his lifespan was limited. I interviewed them and I said, well, you can't go. They said, well, why can't we go? And then I said, perhaps mother might be allowed to go. And I contacted Mr. Greenhouse in Cologne and he agreed after consultation with Australia that the mother could go, but the father couldn't go. So I re-interviewed, I interviewed the father, told him what the situation was, I interviewed the mother and told her the situation, then I interviewed them again together and I said, well, now you have to decide as a mother does have a future if she goes, but father, you know your situation. And they said, Mr. Grant, you decide for us. And here am I, 27, playing God, deciding for this lovely couple. I've never forgotten them. And I said, well, mother ought to go to give her a chance. And she went and for a number of years later, I received cards from that family, from her and from her children. And then the father died within six months of that interview. Also while in post-war Europe, Harold was asked to star in a government film about the refugee selection process, a film called Mike and Stephanie that raised a few eyebrows at the time and for many years after. There were problems in Australia, a feeling that we were too loose in our screening arrangements, allowing undesirables in newspapers like the bulletin were costing in their criticism of call. So a decision was taken, they'd make a documentary on our screening processes just to demonstrate how effective we were and the problems that we were encountering, but what we were doing. So a documentary maker, Ronald Maslin-Williams, with a photographer, Reg Pierce, they were given, allocated the sum of $5,000 and they were told to go and make a documentary. I was notified, and how it came about was that they worked out with the assistance of IRL, a Ukrainian family that had been separated by the war, then reunited and they decided they'd like to go to Australia. And Greenhouse said to me, you're going to be the migration officer. Now it's going to be a proper interview. You may or may not accept the family. And we went to Leipheim, which was a small, there was a children's village there and the screening and the filming took place there in relation to the interview. They were an extremely nice family. I went through the process, if you've ever been in trouble with the police, members of a political party, why are you going to Australia, why have you taken so long to make up your mind about Australia? I was quite happy with the family and what made me more than happy was because I dealt with similar cases. I'd been working for 10 months interviewing by then and I knew the pattern and I knew that IRA would have been quite stringent in their own pre-selection measures to make sure that the family that would be presented would be okay. It was two odd years before the film itself actually was released. They went to Australia, I think, around March 1950 and the film was not released until 1952. It was shown to a group of parliamentarians. They objected to it, they objected to the severity of the interview. I came in, I understand for a lot of criticism that I was too severe, that I was unfeeling in my attitude. The family was tense, they were worried, am I going to be accepted or not. But I was also tense. I was on film and I think I was more worried, if I might say so, than they were. The consequences in Australia was it was never released commercially and also time had passed. We wanted to introduce the Assisted German Passage Scheme and it was introduced. We had a Assisted German Passage Scheme agreement in August 1952, I think if I recall correctly, concluded and so they felt they didn't want any of this to rebound and hinder.