 I think where I went to school, we made first and then we kind of, we learned to make first and then we asked questions later and eventually, you know, our heads hopefully would catch up with our hands, right? It's a tricky thing because I also don't entirely agree with that because sometimes it's hard to kind of get that, the kind of critical thinking, that initial kind of intellectual components, it's hard to get that back, right, if it's neglected for too long. I think there's a bigger schism right now between kind of the digital production and the, you know, I wouldn't call it more traditional but the kind of hands-on space-first kind of thinking I would call it, I guess. We exist in a school in a moment right now where the digital technology has taken over in a big way. Most of my critique of what's going on is a different topic but it lacks space. I think you started that and you said that for the lack of... Yes, we are interested in space which is a modernist proposition in which, and the experience of space which right now has been kind of left behind because the screen is flat, the interest is in surfaces. And I think it's technologically driven, it's algorithmically driven, you know, and it's a powerful tool and I'm all for it but I want to occupy it or move in. And unfortunately in this kind of moment of the culture and of the architecture school, they are so obsessed in teaching this they're losing some other aspects of architecture. Obviously their education is not preparing them to become kind of architects in the full sense of the word architect, being both poets and practitioners. That's been the kind of the painful reality of an architectural education because Pratt was always split into the functionalist or the conceptualist or the poets. I'm tired of that split. It's a false dichotomy. We have to make produce human beings who are both at the two ends of the spectrum. And we have a difficulty and that's part of the difficulty because the first semester we went for questions of they made films and they read books and now we're asking them to make buildings. And that's when the, what is the expression, the rubble meets the road.