 you know, we were, this staff was in one classroom using three computers for three months before we went into the temporary facility, the fire station where we worked for, you know, for four years. So I just want to say a big thank you to the community, to the folks who had the four or five and said, let's have a municipal building that will function in emergency. And I think we're all reaping the dividends in that decision and I want to thank everybody for supporting this facility. Here, here. Thank you. Thank you, Bill. Second item agenda is nominating Bill Sheplick to be our health officer. Do I have a motion? I move to nominate Bill Sheplick. Do we need to have his salary? Not necessarily, that's between us. Okay, I've moved to nominate Bill Sheplick as town health officer for the foreseeable future. Not good. Maybe three years later. Three years, yes, this thing, because I just got appointed three years and I'm happy to get that right over the job. And I don't worry about Mr. Sheplick, yeah. Finally, I would suggest that maybe after the motion is approved, if they're going to approve it, you resign, I think, if you're going to have to send the nomination to the health department. Right. When I'm appointed, then you can resign. At least this way, there's two official people who are still appointed as my statute. Tom is our deputy health officer. So let's see how the vote goes. Did I get a second? Okay. Motion has been moved and seconded. Any further discussion? Hearing none, all in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? No abstentions. Congratulations, Bill. And thank you. Well, thank you, thank you. Hereby, resign from the position and let the health department know at the state level and we'll move forward with those nominations. Okay, thank you. Did you actually nominate Tom, the deputy? Yes, that's all set. He is already officially my deputy, now yours. A risk test. Okay, I think we're set with that. Flooding updates and unmet and emerging needs. Tom, let's start with you. Nothing, nothing huge. It sounds like the decommitifiers we have are already ready to be distributed and there's a lot more demands for that. I've got staff searching far and wide for what we can do, but I think I've exhausted every place that might rent them within 100 miles. So I told them to start in Plattsburg. Oh, good point. Maybe we can go from there. How many did you get? Just 10, that's all I could get. All right, I've gotten a few private ones just there for my own purposes. We've got two of you running in my house, which I'm willing to share with stuff. We've got a little dryer. And regarding dehumidifiers specifically, we're gonna work to continue to match folks up one by one via that form, the help request or volunteer form. So if you are volunteering, you can say I have residential dehumidifiers to loan and people can say I'm looking for dehumidifiers and we'll try to match those folks up one by one. Okay, yep. Look, how many commercial dehumidifiers? They're what they had. I don't know the official writing. They're the size of a big commercial. Because some of the little residential ones would be not all that effective, the commercial ones are much more effective. I've done for profess to know how long they should be in a house and how long we should go until we shift them around the community. So in the short term, when can I get them out of that truck because we need that truck? Right now. Oh yeah, you're on a puzzle. Who's gonna just bring it up? Well, that's... So I believe we've got a request for them. People are gonna come pick them up here? We haven't figured out the liver yet. They just, I think that was gonna be part of our volunteer work immediately. But if you just need the truck, we can get them out of the truck. Yeah, there's a need for a truck to get in the truck. All right, so they're here and we gotta figure out how to get them out. You could always put them in my truck and I could do it. I'd be glad. There we go. All right, that's what we have to do. Mark is the humidifier delivery guy. Yeah. Come on. Do you really? Gary, any updates from you? No. Everything went very well yesterday, not minimizing people that are impacted, but we had a few apologies yesterday that they're all minor stuff. People here are smoking cigarettes. There's still detectors going off in places that still have water. And it's kind of like not worrying about it, but worrying that something could happen and people ignore it. So it's a double edged story. But no, the roads are looking good. We assisted getting a person across the Muskie Street Bridge and up here going through the water. But yeah, everything's going really well. No injuries, though. Yeah, no quote. I am not a regular injury. We haven't had any real injuries. We had certainly some very close calls from people that have now changed their opinion about going across flowing water. But at least for now. So no, everything's going very well. Well, good job. Thank you. Good job. Woody? Yeah, so yesterday, late yesterday afternoon, we built a temporary roadway or reinforced the roadway on the Muskie Street to get mainly the North Dot Street residents out. They were anxious and wanted to get to Lauderdale. So we built a temporary passage there. We'll do more permanent work in the future. Did part of that get washed out? I don't know. Like all washed out. It's all washed out on this side? Yeah. Haven't been down there yet. Is it passable yet? It's passable. Yes, yes. So that's passable. And I think, I'm going to guess, the back side of the river is open now. Yeah, the back side of the river, from the bridge all the way to just past Camel's Humphrey, is open, is flooding on the other side of that, and is flooding on the Ducksburg side of the Muskie Street bridge. Oh, OK. Going towards Main Street, that's everything. OK, so this is their only access for what? This is the only access to get from here to Camel's Humphrey. Yeah. So we did that. We started actually sweeping in the downtown because we brought dust would be on the meeting. Yeah, I heard you got the sweepers out this morning. Thank you. So that was one of my questions here. The sweeper is good enough. Or do you do anything beyond sweeping? Well, we scraped last night with the loaders. Two loaders worked to scrape them on off. Some places are still a little too wet to operate. House basements being pumped into the street make it a little too wet. But you don't need fire hoses to muck out the roads any spots. OK. Yeah, we certainly, if we need to, we can get a truck and spray water. A lot of times that creates more of an issue. We're talking high pressure. It's hard to moderate the style of the nozzles that we use. We run the trucks at a certain pressure. So if there's a need, we can. But we also don't have penetrating nozzles. Volunteers have been pressure washing the sidewalks on Randall Street, but just in certain spots. And it's really slippery. Animals were found just like 15 minutes ago. So if we can get somebody to address that, I don't know. Yeah, it means to meet it under eye a little more. We can sweep the sidewalk. OK. Yeah. It does pressure wash pretty easily. And it just goes down with all that everybody else is just entering their basements. And then I'll go down the storm drains. Everything's washing. Chris, you had something there? Yeah, based on his forecast for the next conceivable days, make Mother Nature probably assist in putting it on. Yeah, but I mean, I didn't know where the ring is going to push that silt off. No, I'm saying because I can't do down here with some dust after the end. Yeah, knock down the dust. But we've got like an inch of silt on the sidewalk, which means we're going to stay home and find another home. Yeah, so roadways we're doing all right. Started sweeping some temporary repairs, great hill, other places. Got two crews, one from Brodingen Department of Public Works, pumping out basements right now. We've got another group from the town of Stone pumping out basements right now. They both started early this morning. We've had to shut off the water to several residents as their basements have flooded and the water receives broken pipes in the basement. So several houses on Elm and Randall have the water shut off. It was worked late into the night last night. Going to the wastewater pump station, we're still at very, very, very high levels. We've got a massive pump from Burlington DPW working assisted by the town of Stone down there as well. We're holding steady. It appears that most of the work, kind of echoing what Bill said, most of the work that we did after the storm, I mean, the flood proofing of the main street and the pump station, all the dry pits and municipal pumps, everything worked. It's still working. They closed the flood doors. There was very little water inside the pump station. The pumps kept operating throughout the whole thing. The problem with the pumps kept operating is there was no room in the little building still over. Yeah, so they overflowed? No, we're close. We're close. And you're still right there? Of course, we're holding right there. Burlington was offered up another huge pump, but they may have now a very rough share of the sewer line under what we see river that they may in. So we think we just actually headed to Ben and Jerry as they have a large diameter pump that we can borrow with them. So hopefully it won't make ground, at least water-wise. And I think that's the pumps, and then I'll show you. Well, and just real quick, I had Bill and I traded some text this morning. He doesn't have any concerns about the safety of bridges. Yeah, I looked under the Armory, I'm not a bridge expert, I'll throw that out there before I tell you. I looked under the Armory Drive Bridge and the twin bridges down here, I don't see any need for concern. And I believe Alec looked under the Armory or half of the Drive Bridge, so. And how about the one up on Stowe Street? That older bridge still is about to be replaced. You wouldn't want to look under it in the times of bad night. Exactly. I just wanted to know if it's safe to bribe all the time. Yes, that's insane. It's not safe to bribe all the time. It's a great place to get water. But the water, they did not hit that, yeah. I was charging them with the old head of the wood there. Yeah, it was really an ocean. Yeah, fingers crossed that one's slanted for 20.5, I think. Yeah, so. All right, the worst than it was. Alyssa. Do we have any more road closures in town right now? No. The road close sign is up at the ice to the ground, but you can drive around it. The road is open? Yep, everything's open. Ever, it will just be straight again. And it looked like, to me, the ice center didn't get hit. I don't know if anybody has... Not that that matters, but it looked like you just got close. Mm-hmm. Yeah, it's good. And then across the river in Ducksbury, the road between the Lewinsky River Bridge and Ducksbury is still closed. It was last I knew when I... Early this morning, I could hear the loader and grader working over there. So, and actually the material that we used to open up this side of the Lewinsky Street that was provided by Ducksbury, they're needing to get there in the wild, so. Yeah, and just a quick note, it's more of an EFOT thing that we all plan for the same team. The push for the EFOT employees to get them all cross-trained in water and soar. And this is a great example because if you've only got two guys at the SOAR plan, they've got to be there 24-7 or an event like this. They've got to sleep. So having the water guys also getting those licenses and experiences is really helpful because water is far less impacted. You know, Chris, you had something to say? Yeah, I spoke to somebody, everyone, and just he made an call to me about the water level of my place because it's been somewhat of a glee just what happens down here from that end. Yeah. And one of the big concerns that I guess was being discussed in the Lewinsky management that there was no reaction from where it is that controls the dams, the green local dams, there was no mitigation efforts prior to this program. There was. Our dam was closed. Oh, I was told by this person that basically you haven't learned a thing from the last, but I believe that, you know. Our dam was closed. I don't know exactly when. It might have been when it hits 417. Yeah, I forget if that was Monday night. Or Tuesday. Well, Lord, I think it was there. I think what he said is like, should they have dropped the water table? No, in advance. Especially if it's prior to that. That's why the right field here. That's the problem. And he said that that was a huge concern that nothing was done prior to the storm. So the last time that's what I thought they would learn. So it took some time to get through to people understandably yesterday, but I talked to the dam safety engineers and they've got a protocol for lowering Wrightsville and the Waterbury Reservoir and others. But it also is dependent on the Winooski. So with the Winooski so high, I think that impacted their ability to lower things. So they also said that they thought. Now it appears both reservoirs will be fine. And I'm sure over time, they're going to draw them down once the Winooski gets lower. But they. They gave me a lot of reassurance yesterday that they haven't been asleep with the switch at all. It's just a challenging time. OK, any further updates from the town? But how are we on Winooski's screen down by the end? Yes. Is there damage? Yes. Yes. Yeah, what's the prognosis? There's several five, six feet deep for us in there. Much of the pavement has been lifted. Storm grade seems intact. So it's a rebuilding of the road actually seems a little worse than when it was Irene. I'm not sure if that vehicle that was there has kind of redirected the flow of water there. There's a big. Yeah, I think what happened was that because that vehicle was up in the rocks that created that. Yeah, a little undercut. Yeah. And now the vehicle's out in the softball field. So, yes, a little bit of. OK, yeah. Probably I know Tom has discussed the potential. If we do rebuild a potential cure, you know, by doing like almost like it being like a sluice way. Yeah, I think that's a really good suggestion. But not my idea that it feels idea. Oh, OK, I heard it from you, though. Yeah, I heard it from him. Don't one other piece I just want to add. I really want to thank Lisa at the roundabout who in a lot of ways served as public information officer, but it was frustrating that to me that, you know, you call the news, you call the radio, you get in contact with Lisa. But the biggest lesson learned that doesn't take a year to implement, I just want to do now is I want to start a town's Facebook page and just do it. It would have been extraordinarily helpful to last few days for us to post our own updates about what roads or blows would have been shared throughout the. Throughout the web. So I just want to get that started. I don't think it's going to take forever to do it. Sure, it's a little more creating government page and the personal, but with the support for mention, I just want to do it. I make a motion to approve the one of very selectable Facebook. Facebook, it's a sacrum. OK, we have a motion to a motion to create a town Facebook page. It's been seconded any further discussion hearing none. All members say aye. Any post any abstentions? You have permission to create a town Facebook page. All right, that's it from the town. One other one other quick thing are. Our middle school rec program is at Brookside for today. We're not sure for how long and maybe they'll be there for the duration of the summer. So that's the one that used to be at the Methodist used to be at the Wesley Church Wesley Church. So thanks to the school and thanks to the folks there. I also just want to know that I'm not sure we're going to use it, but Monica Callan at the Grange has offered us something like an 80 percent discount if we want to use her space. So that's also a great offer that we might take her up on. So just want to thank Monica. Very good. You're here. OK, Lisa has a hand up and then one last thing. Last thing that a request about lights on Randall Street in particular, I'm assuming that will no longer be a need, but just to raise it. And then also it doesn't need to be right now. But as a select board member, I want to know who on earth I was supposed to call because I literally was like, it's 1030. In terms of it means like that come up. I don't know who to direct them to. And again, I think it's probably at this point since you all are pumping out, but just wanted to raise lights as a potential and assume that's not moving forward. And then after this, just make sure the street lights. I think the street lights were not bright enough. So it was a question about like Randall. Not bright enough all the way down Main Street. Sorry, I live on Main Street, too, so. But then we'll do work outside. Yeah, we want to keep that. Yeah, we cut things off. And then we're talking about the newer lights, the LED lights. There's my understanding is there's switches in them. It's not a big amount of power. And they said that the ones that are dimmer, it's naturally bright. Bright enough. Preston's been made several months ago. The one DMP's lights on Randall Street. No, the ones in South Main. But along with other lighting issues have been in the work since COVID. But what's your question? Did the lights go out at some point in the night? Were they just? The question was, do we anticipate it's a union street needing rental lights as a useful service? The municipality potentially could help provide to that question. And then if that type of request emerged in the future, I just wanted to know the appropriate ways to route. So the first thing that comes to mind for me is does the town have a light tower? No, the times we've needed to utilize it in the last five or six years, four or one for the day at McDonald. Yeah. That's what you're noisy. Yes. Yeah, right. Because you're old January. It runs on a generator. Yes. He's a generator. So it's a little noisy. Yeah. And that much of a need for it, I wonder. Do we have to work 24-7 months? No, I think probably not. I think it's helpful. Like I said, just wanted to raise up on things that happen. OK. Have residents requested that? Well, apparently, one day. Yes, that's what I think. OK. Yeah. It seems like among all requests that that maybe one that we might not be able to share. Part of it. Sorry. I think Lisa. Lisa. It's a good way to start. I'll be quick. I think the idea of a Facebook page is a good idea. That would have been helpful to be able to share that. It's an easy way. I can attest that there's a lot of people in the community that use it. Some municipalities use Twitter. And I don't see I don't do Twitter with the roundabout. I don't feel like a lot of our readers are on Twitter. So I just I don't have that much bandwidth. One thing I'd like to mention, though, for the people who are not on Facebook to try to reach them. And I can send you a few of these time, too. Duxbury started a thing about a year ago where they just have a mass email that goes out, sort of like the way that the school does it. You know, as a parent in school, you are on a swift reach email server kind of thing. And they can send out emails when schools are closed or there's an announcement or whatever. And they've started building a list like that in Duxbury. And I think they've got a few hundred people on it. Maybe they might be up to about 300 now. They don't aim to get everyone. But I think they definitely try to reach people who aren't more on social media and stuff. So something like that is a pretty easy thing to do, to just do like a free MailChimp account. And you can send out the same message that you've got on Facebook. Facebook could do more often, I suppose. But you might get some concern from especially older residents who aren't on Facebook. They might say, you know, what about me? I don't want to get left behind. And that might be a way to kind of have those things work together so you kind of reach as many people as possible. So just a suggestion. It's a great suggestion between what was created yesterday and a few hundred people already go sign up plus our MailChimp. We could figure out something, I think. Yeah. Have a subscribe, just... Yeah, we may want to create a new e-mail address for it. It's really easy, yeah. I mean, I'd be happy to show you a couple of the Duck Story emails. I use MailChimp for what I do. And I only recently had to start paying for it and it was when I exceeded 2,000 people. So there's a lot of wiggle room before you get there that it's just a free account and you could do a lot with it. So... We do have a master on this for Main Street and it's been drawn to that and covers from Crossroads to the I Center, basically e-mail addresses for businesses and homeowners who chose to... All right, that'll be good. The Firebird uses a wiggle room for all of our people and you can moderate what access people have and whether it's just read or whether they can respond but which works great for us. Okay. And right now on the Resource Doc folks can already subscribe to Mark Emilio and revitalize and moderate business updates. There's a subscribe to that and can subscribe to get all of the select word agendas automatically, which Karen already sends out just so you will get an email each time an agenda is posted but also sounds like more to come as well. All right, unless there's other updates from the town let's move on to volunteer planning and effort. Starting with short term volunteer needs. I guess Roger, I'm thinking maybe we defer back to you the general statement I would say just so that the community knows and because it's incredible to see so we talked about yesterday with up from the Schlegel and others that we launched this form. We have 420 respondents to that already. That's both needs and folks offering help but just to say like what an incredible outpouring of community members both within and beyond Pottery. So I would just say like the bottom line is the bulk of this agenda item is us bringing out what next steps are in terms of safely and effectively using that. What he already seems for example, anyone who had a need for pumping that list went to Woody this morning for folks who are coming into help. There's been a couple of small one off requests for things that we've been able to work on but we need to kind of figure out a sustainable system for managing and engaging with this incredibly long list. For now, we did just send a note last night that basically said thanks for signing up. We have your contact info. We will be in touch when we have needs that hang tight for now. So it's again to say this kind of conversation is about what those next steps look like. I guess Roger I also want to offer you gave some kind of three steps hierarchy that maybe makes sense to review now but also want to use the expertise of Gary and others in terms of what we feel like is the right approach for doing this. Well, I just went up and down Randall Street this morning finding out where people were at and Scott Mackie came up with a three-step assessment of readiness and the first stage is we still have a couple of basements that have not been pumped out at all. People are away rental properties or whatever. So there are others on the street that pumped out theirs and they're now helping some of the other people but that would be first stage. Second stage is you pumped out but then there's a certain amount of materials that were left in the basement that need to get taken out of there with ideally with some volunteer help. And part of that was dependent on having a dumpster to deposit these materials in. I just talked to Bob Butler and he said that the arrival of the Castella dumpsters is imminent. He's gonna put two on Randall Street and Bob if you're on the, he said he was gonna join by a Zoom maybe he's got further updates on where the others are gonna go and where they're gonna get there. Bob, are you there? And maybe not yet. Sam. Okay. Well, we know that maybe even as of now there are two dumpsters on Randall Street that can be used for putting whatever into any of our donations. On a Randall Street guy. Mind people not to forget about like South Main Street where not many houses were. Right. In Batchel and Batchel there and Honeydew place. Brutal. So they're lower on Unistrict. Yeah. Should we be communicating with that? Like are you? I would just say all of those two of the like I said 24 addresses were pumping that one to Woody that included not only Randall but Batchel or South Main Street, Huntington Union. So at least some of those needs are being communicated to us and at least for pumping have gone out. I don't know on dumpsters. I guess that's stupid. Who should lead Bob? Bob. I think Bob's our dumpster guy. Okay. He knows dumpsters. He's been in touch with Kisela. Okay. Just in the area. Yeah. Like that's what you wanted. Yeah. I'll reach out to Bob and talk about those specific areas. Yeah. Probably in a day or two. Just. When he's done some of the basic work in the roads, what do you have a dump truck available? You'd hate to have to transfer the material twice but that's always an option. And through to specifically for questions. So that's one to just make sure Bob knows. And then the third stage is people that have everything cleared out but still have some mud remaining where the basement and will be ready for the mud sucker if and when it's available. And I've got a couple of priority houses on Randall Street that are ready to go. So I don't know how would he's prioritizing that but maybe Gary, do you have an idea? No, I don't have an idea. I just want for people that are listening, I received a bunch of phone calls at fire station yesterday. People saying, hey, we're told that the fire department is coming around pumping out basements. Our pumps are not designed for that. Right. So we're not. No, the fire department is not pumping out but we do have, as I understand, two crews that are doing that. And then plus there are a bunch of volunteers doing it. There's a guy from Reno and Garlic that has a big commercial irrigation pump that does the job pretty quickly. And I think the less people are done, more of everything pumped out today is unexpected. My son-in-law went and bought two pumps and he was on Randall Street. Yeah, he was helping us with water last night. Same stuff. It would also be great to follow up just to make sure we're covering Root 2 and Union and others as well back in the day. This is Kyle with the L.M. Jacob, thanks so much for talking to us. I got to go. How are we going to deal with hazardous materials? Because probably in some of the basements there are hazardous materials mixed in with their household stuff. I don't know if, again, this would be interesting to know if we can put hazardous materials into the dumpsters. I don't know if we need to have hazardous materials. I would say no. Right. If we can get a separate dumpster in located someplace besides Randall Street or the other streets and let people know that there is a hazardous materials dumpster that they can bring stuff to, and maybe our local recycling hazmat trash guy will be in person to talk to, he might be able to. John Malt, John Malt. It's not just items, though. There's a report of oil on the ground on Union Street. Yeah, I want you to be about that. Yeah. But other materials, if you don't provide people with the option, it will go into dumpsters. Right. OK. I can't follow up. Oh, sorry. Can we get an update on the website about that? I don't think it's right. It's not right. It's not right. I'm sorry. I remember the last time that everyone's facing, there was a tower of paint that we had to use that paint. Free hand bottles and all the hazardous chemicals coming out of the basin. I'm so sorry. So everyone was aware that there was a dedicated space for that last week. But I guess, for the time being, do not put any hazardous materials like paint in the dumpster. That's just science. And that's the science. Yeah. OK. And so if the dumpsters will be in place today, do we think it's time to start mobilizing the volunteers? John, well, I guess that's the question. There's two kind of short-term and long-term. So again, we've identified we have, we're going to say 400, because I'm now up to 435 responses while we've been talking, volunteers, again, some from Waterbury, some from surrounding and even distinct communities. The question is next steps in terms of triage and management. So yes, we can send an email to folks. The question then becomes, where are they needing? How are they being directed, prioritized, and shuffled out just being really candid? I'm going to have to go back to work at some points. But that is not a full-time position I can be doing. So just to say long-term, I think there's a question around if the select board is comfortable needing to create a volunteer subcommittee. This has offered to serve on it. But if folks are comfortable, some of those 400 volunteers have offered to help with logistics. So I would say the first step would be recruiting two to three to help with the ongoing volunteer management task, which is not insignificant. But then knowing that we'll need to have a system for where folks are meeting again, we can send an email after this meeting saying, please arrive at location X at time Y. But then we need to have a protocol for when they arrive, how they're going to dispatch and things like that. Michael, if we don't have a sufficient number of volunteers, as I know there's that state website from on.gov slash volunteers, how do we tap into that work? I think we have more than we need to do. I think we have 400 volunteers. Well, I know, but it's going to start waning at some point when people have to go back to work. And you know. I would say for the imminent future, we have 100 folks to start with. And I want to focus on managing them. And then I think that's an important question for a future meeting. So I think what are your name again, once again. Oh, yeah. OK, there we go. Yeah, I would say I don't think it's a lack of volunteers that we have. My big concern is if you put out the fall, they come volunteer to help. You are going to get 100 people. And I think we want to be very cautious about how many people are invited to help Rodriguez step up to be them if you're prepared to do so. You're not prepared to be 400 people this afternoon. Yeah. Yeah, my take on this would be that we should create a management structure, maybe directly after this meeting. Liz, if you'd be willing to participate in that, I'll participate. Ariel, if you'd be willing to join anybody else in this room and I guess online, but probably don't need more than five people to figure out how to organize this. And then we'll have a statement about how many people we need today and then where they're on them along. We'll see and work it out, I guess, should we now, the other we had on there was just safety and protocol in terms of recognizing Jerry is sitting here, do we have? Candidly, we're walking that as has been raised before. We're lining between what we as a municipality are encouraging and just making sure we're being reasonable and appropriate and safe with volunteers and putting them in situations. We feel comfortable with as a facilitator. So in terms of, I don't want to say lines in the sand, but types of things that we need to be aware. Again, maybe that's part of this follow up. The biggest issue right now is gonna be people getting hurt, cuts, mainly and the fact that the water is dirty. And people need to make sure that they get cleaned up as soon as they can. Because that stuff will absorb into the skin and you're gonna get sick. But minor injuries is what we saw after I read and just people cleaning out and getting cuts and stuff like that. And not overdoing it. It's, you know, today's weather, temperature seems to be very nice compared to what it was after I read and it was extremely hot and muggy. So not overdoing it, moderation. The ambulance does have two crews running. So it doesn't mean that they don't have two calls at the same time, but at least right now they're running two crews on duty. So. I don't know if that's part of it. Yeah. For those who are going to coordinate, I think it would be wise if at all possible to create a simple form that people sign that they're going to have to town and library. You know, VLCT is the town's insurer. There's limited coverage of volunteers and it's really to protect the town's liability more than anything. It's not going to be his workers compensation or things like that for the volunteers, but it would be helpful if you had all this and that if necessary, you can produce that for passive and it could help just alleviate other legal issues that you don't want to do. Good point. Thanks. Can we generate a waiver? Yeah, we've got that. Yeah. But if we're done with the safety and protocols, long-term volunteer management before nation, I guess we can cover that in our meeting afterwards. Don't have to take everybody's time on that right now, but we know it was. Okay, Al. Yeah, the town owns the Rusty Park of Park now. And if you can just step back a second and think and Irene, the park got flooded with three feet of water, so it was not usable for anything. But right now, the park, basically the bandstand and the Zebo are high and dry. The canopy over the bandstand area is a place that could be set up for distribution or cooking food and whatnot. There's water there from the tap from the village and there's also restrooms that are there. There's a hose there so people can come over and wash up. There's electrical outlets there so people can connect to the outlets to charge their cell phones and et cetera. So you've got an asset that was not really usable right after Irene that you do have right now that as long as that can be opened up and manned by volunteers to make sure it doesn't get misused, that facility can be, it's within walking distance of your downtown area for anybody who needs help, people who need to wash off, for example, as a hose there, people can just rinse themselves off for their clothes or boots or whatever down there. But just think about the fact that you've got an asset that's right there that can be used for something other than concerts in the park and other activities. Okay, thanks Al. Is the public restroom open now? No, the restrooms are only opened during events and that's just so that there's a responsible person looking over the restrooms to make sure it doesn't get trashed. But this is an event and if you've got some responsible people who volunteered to basically look over the facility as well, it's open, we can treat it just like an event. And yes, the rotary stocks the restrooms, we make sure the restrooms are clean for the events that we're planning to do that. She'll be in touch with you about the timing on this. Thanks. All right, any other hands up? I could just a quick thing about restrooms. What are we doing for volunteers downtown? We're not saying we've got six volunteers for our house. We're not using our restroom. I'll be setting up four less downtown. Is that been addressed? We have not addressed that guy. We did bring in restrooms. I was not part of it. For Irene, when I was there, forwarded that to release one on Randall Street and stayed there for a long time. It did. It was a great opportunity, if I'm not mistaken. Sure, but- Thank you for being on like the back of the bank for a total day of parking lot meetings that will be our event. Well, we put it on 51-cell and we screened the park. Oh yeah. Yeah, that'll be it. In fact, there was one there and fairly recently. I'd like to still be one there. That's the place for you to put it on. Right, okay. Yeah, let's try to put it on the 51-cell main and any other suggestions in terms of location? So the site of the owners of the Sider Health Restaurant out on our two have offered their space as a staging area for volunteers to meet. So we can have them if we want to put one there. But all those houses on your two, which all need pumping, all need the same set of services. Yeah, okay. So Sider Health, Kara? Yeah, I was just gonna say in the interim, Sonya, Karen, FPGV, so I'm just supposed to know who is working for and that folks can use the back of that. That's a lot of that. It's open so that's a good word. We're just right next to the 51-cell main. Next house down. Well, Brad, well, that's helpful. Well, that was John Malter. Boba, Sean and True Value will take paint and stain. There's a national recycling program. You need a brand-new dollar, Boba, Sean? We can organize and bring it down there. Anything else, hazardous, John is already working on. Okay. Place to get rid of that, the normal transfer stations under water. Which is a little bit of water. Robbie's? I know the one in Richard was under water. So if we'll get back to me pretty quick, I think. Okay. But he said get it all in one spot and we'll go from there. All right. So people put it out in front of their house for the time being. Yeah. So we can designate an area. All right. Now it's the public session. Anyone that has something to spot on the agenda, can you hear me about now? Chris? Future impacts, future storms, based on continually growing in pervious areas. My neighbors got their yard clean for nothing. The amount of trash that's running down the river during these storms is a great concern to me. Whether or not zoning can somehow regulate the amount of stuff that's put in floodplain areas. Future floodplain areas, the floodplain areas that are already built in now, kind of difficult to deal with that and regulate it. But I can tell you, videos that I saw yesterday were quite disturbing. But it's huge campers and stuff under the bridges. Not in this town, but in different towns and all that stuff end up in the big toilet called Lake Champlain. That's growing worse and worse year after year from contamination. Just a couple of concerns. Future problems. Every time, and I was telling Bill earlier, we were talking about it. It may not sound like much to you guys, but I'm completely aware of it because of my business. The amount of forest that I'm cutting down daily to put in in previous areas, releasing those forests with root costs and chimneys and it's just all contributing to the growing catastrophe just kind of move on more water volumes to come into the areas like this year. Next summer. Yeah, you can, you know, water very dodgeable this time. I know. I mean, not completely, but, you know, I guess my bigger concern is to, again, not if it happens again, but when it happens. It's a difficult topic to deal with. How do you stop construction? How do you stop development? How do you mitigate these problems for the future? That's something to think about. Well, we will have new zoning regs for the phase one area, which is downtown area by the 1st of March, as I understand it. And we'll be moving on to the rest of town. And something that you can sort of... There are, on the issue of trash, there are a number of towns where we can look at them for models if it's like what was in truth that have various ordinances riveted to generally public health and safety that involve trash and above and beyond trash, oftentimes things like junk vehicles. It's oftentimes an easier thing to regulate in the city, quite frankly, than a town with a lot of rural areas. But it's something that the SWEBRA could take up. Right. Liz. Liz. Thank you. Chris, I want to respond to just, I was thinking about it too. One of the things that the governor said in his first press conference was that they had known this was coming for a couple of days, right? I assume because of the weather modeling with deep thunder and the IBM program that we signed on to after I read, but we didn't know. And that is a gap. And it is gonna need to be raised in place with the administration in that we couldn't put out a call for volunteers or people to clean up their backyards, right? I know, you know, I have a lot of injuries and stuff. Like I've never been able to clean up my backyard if you haven't been here, and I haven't been carried all the way through, right? All the stuff that would have gone. And that is the kind of pre-work that we're gonna have to get used to it. And we do need the state to notify us. If they see something coming, you know, they have a couple of days we can. And I do, because that is the kind of thing people absolutely don't want, right? Can I make one other point? Sure. So I'll give you a little story on what happened to me here recently at the field shop, I wasn't aware of it. A couple of winter ago during the pandemic, I had some eroded into one of my hayfields. I took a machine on the other side of the road, on the other side of the road, on my property. And removed a corner of the field that was next to the brook. That was helping the water. It wasn't there originally. It used to be several feet away, but over time had built towards, anyway. So when he turned me into the state, when the guys from the agency and after reshorts had showed up and wanted to know why I did that, I brought him over and showed him the reason why. And he said to me, why don't you just get a permit, Chris? I said, I didn't get into the brook. He said, well, you filled in a floodplain. I said, I didn't fill in a floodplain. The material was already there. If you don't fill in a floodplain with material that's already there, I just took it in one spot, put it in another spot. He said, well, you covered up a wetland. I said, it was all Japanese, not we. I said, if we increase our kit, the Japanese, not we completely destroys wetlands. His next thing was, well, you're supposed to let those rivers run natural. Well, again, I've got photos on my phone right now from yesterday that people sent me where their complete driveways were just destroyed. Hundreds of cubic yards of material of man-made and pervious area gets put into the brooks. There's nothing natural about that, you know? And that sills in all of these deep holes in the brooks and streams. That's why we don't have any fish anymore. And it's a maintenance of people's roads. There's a huge issue. How do you address that? In the two developments that I created, I had covenants in there that specifically address those issues. I had spoken to the zoning and planning commission years ago about some of these subdivisions being required to have covenants more road maintenance to reduce the amount of erosion, reduce the amount of storm damage, and didn't go anywhere. But it's just another contributing factor to, again, the problems that were being faced when these storms come through. Yeah, good point. Thank you. Anybody else? Can I ask a question from the public? Please do. There's an ask about cleaning supplies. And I think we talked about it yesterday that there was a lot of donations of those things. But I don't know if we ever revisited that conversation whether it's a part of the volunteer organization. Yeah. Okay. And Tom, you were gonna talk about getting bleach kits and that sort of thing? Yeah. Oh, okay. So coming out soon. So yeah, we'll have the information on this up on the website in a few hours. Okay. All right. Determine the next meeting date and ongoing meeting schedule. Alyssa, you mentioned that you may have work obligations coming up. Once things start coming up. As many of us do sometimes. Yeah. Continue to work for a living. But I guess I would just say, I think that's actually the least important. My question is do we still see value in a daily stand-up meeting at 9 a.m. or another time through the end of this week or otherwise? And how far are we scheduling out? I also wanted to say the select board was going to have a vicious dog herring if anyone recall at 7 p.m. And that is not happening tonight. But tomorrow. Sorry, tomorrow. Yeah, certainly. Not by day some person, but just saying out loud that that is canceled. Our next regular rescheduled select board meeting is Monday, the 17th is the correct date. At, was 6 p.m. in early ones. We are maintaining that. But do we see value to a daily meeting? I guess I would say, regardless of my own personal sentence, I think I can make it. Do we think through this week that is useful for the next two days to have an 8 or 9 a.m. meeting? I suggest that we'll learn a lot from the cleanup today and the volunteers. And then maybe one more daily meeting to parse through that could be useful. Tomorrow. Yeah. I wonder if we could do it at noon time as close to 9 a.m. Because I think we may have volunteers to deal with in the morning. And I also have to get back to work thing. And so if it works for everybody else, I would suggest that we meet at noon tomorrow and then determine any further needs before the next meeting. My only question is, do we need to meet prior to volunteers? Or maybe we can, maybe that doesn't need to be a select board meeting. Okay. I'm just saying some folks may need to talk to me. Yeah, like volunteer coordinators can be better. Yeah. So select board special slash emergency meeting tomorrow at noon, regular meeting Monday and we'll assess tomorrow. Yeah. If we need to, we could meet again on Friday, but I'm feeling that we may be a lot further along by this time tomorrow. And we may not have to meet on Saturday. Are you doing your evening tonight? It's still scheduled. I'm going to talk to Skip about that momentarily. Okay. Yeah. All right. There's a hand. Oh, Lisa. Lisa. I'm sorry. I didn't jump in fast enough. I've got one question from a reader that I didn't know the answer to because I haven't been down there with the road closed. Maybe Woody knows this. A question was about the condition of the dog park. Not so much whether there's mud in it, but did it get washed? Did it get washed away? I guess was the question that I had. And I said, I don't know. I'll see if I can find out. Is there anyone but now there? I would suggest if you have contact for anybody at WADA, the Waterbury Area Trails Alliance, they were down there because their trailer got washed up and so they had to get that and check the trail so they would have that information because they were down there most likely. So it could be good contact. Okay. I do have a contact for them. That's a good suggestion. Thank you. And I had one other thing to just share wearing my green up hat and my past memories of this from Irene were not anywhere near this stage, I think, but hearing that volunteer list is pretty encouraging. I remember all the hundreds of volunteers that we had over months, but one of the things that comes up after the people in the homes are helped is the garbage cleanup. We had, we did green up for about four or five months. I mean, McKee will remember all the volunteers that came and we found trash and there were, we had one tire cleanup where we cleaned up about 2,000 tires over on route two, which is when Chris Vanz's remark about material floating down the river, we had junkyards just get inundated and their stuff got moved 10th of a mile down and we had dozens of volunteers picking up hundreds and hundreds of tires. I haven't done anything yet to go out to look and see what, until the water's down to see how much garbage is out there. But after Irene, we worked with property owners all along route two was probably the worst. We had dumpsters and forest field. We had green mountain power owns that whole area over by the footbridge. I don't know if the footbridge survived or not, but there were lots of propane tanks and all of that sort of material. But that was definitely like down the road that was the next spring after Irene was in August. This was like the following spring where we did probably from April till July, we did that sort of cleanup. So it'd be interesting to see just what the, to sort of take stock of what that looks like, but that's another opportunity for volunteers to get out there to help at that phase of the game. And Roger, as far as a hazardous materials container, when we do green up, we make sure that we put that container in the inside the highway garage for a reason. Long ago when I started doing green up, we would leave the dumpster out at Hope Davy Park and it would be a magnet overnight to attract an amazing amount of junk from people. And so you have to be careful to put that out. And it may be good to have a container that people can bring things to that's in a secure place that could get closed in at night. So you're not coming in the next morning and finding televisions and all sorts of crazy stuff that you're then gonna have to find a home for. So you could end up being like this magnet. So anyhow, that's all for me, I suppose. Thank you. Thanks for your experience on that. Yeah, Bill. Roger, does the border staff, do you have an estimate about how many people have more than basic flooding? I mean, do we have a handful or do we have plenty? Does anybody know how much first floor flooding happened? Sounds like from what I've gathered, not too many. Really just negative bottom of Randall, but I haven't heard anything. Yeah, Elm Street, Elm Street, there are one or two houses on Elm Street. I heard down at the bottom of Main Street and Union. Maybe a couple of new houses on Otterbury. Okay, so it sounds like just. Yeah, it sounds like, you know, maybe 10. Yeah. And the only reason I asked, because, you know, and if they were through it before, but one thing that I learned that Irene was that there were people that, you know, had carbon floors and they thought they had a bit of a fall out and they thought they had all their sheet block off. They, you know, you can cut the sheet block off certain amount of the high water mark and, you know, save the rest of your wall. So I just wanted to make sure that people weren't maybe being too aggressive or trying to restore their homes. So if it's a dozen or 10 or whatever, it's a lot better than, you know. Alyssa. One other best practice thing that folks told me, obviously I was not here firing, but also just to say to everyone to write down what you are doing and why and taking pictures. I last night did a like brain dump note of just like what happened Monday and Tuesday and had already forgotten things. And I'm just a human existing in the world, not managing my own property. So just to anyone who may be listening, just to note if you haven't already to write down what happened, what you did, and remember to take pictures for when you're trying to piece this back together weeks from now. Yeah, we, I don't know if all of us received it, but Keith Cover of Central Vermont Regional Planning sent out a message about FEMA. And as Alyssa was just saying, suggestions, take pictures, document everything, keep all your seats because FEMA will be showing up. And I don't know if you have any further information about FEMA, Tom? Not right now. I'm gonna go back. I thought you were gonna get a couple things. Just from last time, just remembering and as we will put this in the document, that is on the website remembering that FEMA inspectors are often training FEMA. They're not trained in the region or they won't have necessarily been here during the year or whatever. Remember, for folks who come in from the country, this is just their per diem job, right? The house inspectors, they are following a checklist that has nothing to do with kind of what actually happened here. So there is a certain amount of, that's why the documentation is so important. So, and all the congressional staff yesterday while the field people were trained on interacting with FEMA and how they can support people with FEMA. So, I think we said the other day, like first is mucking out, then is FEMA, right? There are two completely different sets of tasks and we are gonna be able to have volunteers that help people deal with FEMA, deal with the organization, deal with the paperwork. But don't expect like the super helpful stuff from the FEMA people they are not. They're not we need, they're just not like. They come in, they have a task. Yeah, but they're not gonna help. But my experience with them was excellent class during Ireen, they came in, they had those electronic things to measure dimensions in every room. They're in and out of there in less than an hour. It was very impressive, high class. So, Chris Neville, who was, I don't know if he's still in the meeting, but who did chat, he let us know that no one showed up for the shelter last night, so they're not gonna have the shelter of Brookside Open tonight. Okay, Brookside is not closed. Childcare is available today, nine to three, and they'll make a decision about tomorrow and Friday later this afternoon. Good. So it looks like Lisa has that information. Maybe she'll get that out there. And we have Chris and Sarah's contact information, if there are any questions. Okay. So they're doing childcare today, but not so tomorrow. Make a decision later today about tomorrow, yeah. Oh, and we will reopen the shelter if needed. Thank you. No question, I hear. Just to follow up on what Liz said, that request for logistical assistance is one of the needs folks can submit in the form. I know we already have a number of folks requesting that assistance and folks offering to help the emotional support cheerleaders, if nothing else, hopefully we can provide some other trainings on the road. And there is, I know, a FEMA best practices worksheet that will work together and match your resource document as well. All right, Mike, do we have a supply of and 95 masks for volunteers? Yeah, we don't. Okay. No, we don't. Please. Or I saw somebody in the community offer that briefly. That's really critical, because especially now with, you know, with you get water and mold and stuff like that, that's the, you know, when everyone could see you need to wash yourself off, but breathing in mold is going to have very long-term, you know, health effects. Yeah, there may be some masks here in the building left over from COVID that Carla received, the blue medical grade ones, but not in that year. Yeah, those are probably not there for mold. It's probably better than nothing, but, you know. And I'm not even sure how many are here because someone puts something on the list for the volunteer coordinating too, but an FBF post for family needs will be definitely necessary. Any further business? We have a motion to adjourn and then we can start the volunteer meeting. Shall move. Second. All right, moving second. All of our say aye. Aye. We'll see you tomorrow at noon.