 Good morning. Welcome to the 1878 podcast episode 23 for one of them Dead easy say it every week. She'll be dead easy. I don't think it is. I don't think it is as much as that I think it's probably 21 or 22 22. Can we get a white board and just like you can just mark it off each time? Yeah I mean that's alright. You could just literally look at last week's thumbnail and it'll have it on That's whatever works for you. Whatever works. The white board is not an issue But the yeah, we are all back together. The foursome is back How have you been gentlemen? We were here last week We were here. I'm asking how you've been. Well, I mean obviously when we missed you terribly last week Because you were regular viewers will know that Barry wasn't here last week because he was on holidays But we were here. We did in fact I did it on location from a different different place. Yeah, that's commitment About your holiday social media was a bit like that government safety advert that's running about having pension money stole By a scammer. It's just you on the jet skis and Have a nice holiday though, Baz. We were speculating about your holiday. Was it nice? It was lovely It was lovely. It was nice to get away from freezing cold weather Put a pair of shorts and t-shirts on it was nice Listen, it's good to have you back. I mean much as much as you know We we coped fine without without you and obviously, you know with pedflying solo We thought at one point it might be the pet pod or the pedcast or whatever But actually it's good to all be back here and and be full strength once again Well, yeah, it was like a like a lapsed supply teacher that Dave and I run ran ragged You see him vaping last 20 minutes of the podcast They've run it so ragged that at some point he just decided to go with horizontal again. I just Disappeared and yeah when I did I did and that was that was three factors that were completely out of my control I done everything to God to you know, when I wasn't an act of God I think to be fair. I think I think I think my mate's teenage son was probably hammering the the the internet with his Xbox or something Maybe result in a detrimental effect to my broadcast quality Can I could say one other thing that's that's kind of tumbled out of last week's episode? Yes, the the photo the photographic ability of David Vitti Yeah I don't know why the your pictures keep popping up. Obviously it's part of your little road trip you doing but I'm not taking the mickey They're good foge. They're really good. You've got a we've got a calendar in the eye. I think Thank you. I mean, I know I know you are being I mean, it's not often we're sincere on this program But I know you are being sincere because you've actually messaged me personally about this and I do genuinely appreciate it I quite like taking photos. It's just on my on my iPhone. It's nothing special No, no kind of like telephoto lens type thing going on It's literally just on my iPhone But I kind of like do little panoramic ones and then I filter them and I chop them in and all sorts and yeah It's but but thank you. I'm pleased to know that my my art is being appreciated Your ass has been appreciated. Get out. Well, we're both There's the photos that I put on social media obviously for the general public and then also there's the other photos I said you know and it's important that we don't ever get those in the wrong folder Technically send this five pound a month on the only They're two very different Two very different calendars down. Um, well, let's start with an everton victory because Undershown dice when I've been in the country everton won So that's how I'm saying it. I've not seen them lose under big dicey now But Saturday was Saturday was obviously a high-pressure game Leads around us. They were above us when they going into it everton haven't beaten anybody around us Since Southampton, I think all the way back in October early October and It meant Dave and you were there it meant that Saturday was a little bit of a do or die, wasn't it? Given that leads couldn't be four points clear of us had they have won the game Yeah, it was an absolute do or die I mean, I thought it I thought it was two poor sides to be honest with you on the day I thought we thoroughly deserve to win. Yeah, but I thought two poor sides They they looked to me. They look like what they are in so much as They were rudderless They look like a team with no real manager and no real shape and they were going out there and kind of doing their best But if they got something they got something and if they didn't they didn't and that's That's kind of how the performance looked to me Which I can understand given the circumstances at the time of recording. They're talking about what last I saw they're talking about appointing Javi Grazia Aren't they the ex-Watford manager? I don't know whether that's been confirmed yet Probably has been by the time you watch this So they need something because they've got Southampton at the weekend and that's going to make them panic as well In terms of where they are but yeah, it was it was a much needed win I mean at one point before we scored and I was sitting there thinking do you know what if we can't if we can't beat these at home? Yeah, we've got no chance. Yeah, like genuinely and that's no disrespect to leads It was more to do with I think we you know, we face leads at a good time for us You know, we're all desperate for the points But yeah, I thought you're not gonna get a better chance to get points on the board than this at home against these with no manager and but You know with the exception of what turned out to be a great goal from Seamus Coleman We offered very little attacking threat going forward. We never really looked like scoring I'm delighted that we came away with the much needed and very valuable three points, but We we need to find some goals from somewhere. I know we say that week in week out But we really do I mean otherwise I can't see is picking up these results Do you know what though? The weird thing is right away through a lot of these kind of bad times We we do create chances, but we just don't have any like we don't get like finishing them in a million years Like I watched the sky do like a 30 minute recap of the game in the middle of the night Top thing and a little one was up. So I watched it again And we we had some chances We never look like anywhere near like the decor a one and you look back That's kind of been the story of the past kind of year or so with everton if we had any form of attacking threat We put in a couple of these because you can only hold like we said before you can only hold people off for so long If you've got the good defense thing going on Yeah, you've got a score to put some distance in and that we've had these kind of like squeaky bum moments in games Because we're not we're not scoring at that point that's gonna let allow us to kind of you know burn away from these teams They any keeping them in the game. So it was kind of weird, wasn't it? It was like you look back at there was a few chances there Well, you think if we had a half decent front line and we'd have been in the clear But this is this is any front line. Yeah, any front line at all I thought I thought Sims was good when he came on a fantastic ball three for decor a held Yeah, it was which he made a made a bloody mess of I mean, you know How we never got some kind of shot away there titting around trying to get it back on his right foot Because you know You're not gonna get many chances like that and as I say it was it was it was great awareness and a great ball three from Sims I was really chuffed for him actually because he needs, you know, listen He needs game time and he needs some confidence but You know when when when situations like that present themselves, you've got to get a shot away. Yeah, I mean I know what Dave's saying, but realistically the first half we probably should have been three in the lower half time Shouldn't we really should have been but I totally agree what they just said there I was watching the game and I was getting more worried Not anxious just more worried thinking these are absolutely the way seen we've seen a good son and we've watched Evan yeah, and And I was thinking if we don't put these to bed and I'm really really worried And but but that and these writers well our main issues put the ball in the back of the net and it's matters that sounds You know, a lot of people sort of said they're thinking Well another chance to come along on another chance, but we've been doing that all season It's not like we haven't been making chances. Yeah, you know, we have been making chances We just we can't put the ball in the back of the net There's just a complete lack of ability in front of the in front of goal, you know, we had Obviously to the core a one late on but there's other chances that they're kind of like there's the little Michelenko woman in second half where he has like a little nice give-and-go and and the shots so tame It doesn't it doesn't test the goalie to push one wide round the round the post training the keepers that's a make I think one Good save during the game and I know we've had a couple off the line, but It is that weird thing of like just if we could just put the ball in the back of the net But that's the thing we find so so difficult and it's spread around the team And if we could if we could if we could just get the second goal in games If we could have got the second goal in the walls game self-harmating game We'd be so much better off now and that and that is that really is the difference of like in the Premier League That's why it's not a massively difficult league. So that other teams have somehow got this ability To get that second goal It's composure though We've seen the core is run through and we just all confidence maybe if he alright first touch isn't great So takes it on to his left foot But really he should just be shooting with his left foot if the goalie saves it or parries it or it goes wide or it Goes over so be it but to not even get the shot away because you're trying to put it back onto your right foot as a professional footballer That's that's poor. I don't think I've ever seen a team Give it straight hit it straight to the keeper as much as ever to do when they're putting a shot I don't what it is about Gordon was the worst friend I mean great run and then straight rolling to the keep you know grass cutter Barnes Wallace to the keeper I don't what it is the way we hit the ball. It's just it's kind of light years behind You know, it's in Chenco hitting that one in the you know for Arsenal like we don't really hit We never do anything like that. Do we? That's why I think one of the things though that we have I mean we did win the game and I'll be honest sat there Was never ever in any doubt in my mind that leads the score There was none I was just looking at I think there's not a chance these are these are coming into this game I was never worried at any stage what so ever and that's very not like me particularly when the Injury timeboard goes up. I'm always having kids thinking don't give anything away They just had offered zero and yet we do after I know they were poor, but we I think we do after We have to give a little bit of credit to Sean Dites because he's been here three weeks He's took six points out of nine. Yeah, you know, we've had two clean sheets He's won back-to-back home games a lot of things we've been unable to do under Frank Lampard Reading something I don't think Frank Lampard won two home games on the run Might be wrong. He might have he might have been West Ham on Palace on the run. Maybe I haven't doubly double checked that But if he did he done it once The clean sheet is a big thing and Dites has been able to to get a structure in place Which is giving us a fighting chance. That's me. We were all very very worried. We have to West Ham. Let's be honest We were all sat here going Is it is that a you know, are we like gonna meekly slip out of this division? But I think what he's done is he's given everyone that little bit of belief. Yes, of course You both right all three right. We don't score enough goals. We don't look Like we can get on the end of stuff Which is really weird because we do you know, Michael Enko McNeil put two great balls across and if you're a Any kind of goal scorer you you want to be two yards off the goal line tapping them in and Maupai who we talked about before was sat on the penalty spot. He's got this Yeah, he is. I mean, I think go back to what you're saying Baz. I think presumably Dices Theory and tactic behind all this is to is to firm things up at the back first and foremost and make us hard to beat Then knowing that perhaps and Saturday was a good case in point, you know, we might just nick a goal from somewhere You know, I mean listen, it was a great goal from shame. It's don't gonna be wrong But you know, it could be one of those performances whereby yeah, we're tight at the back And then suddenly we get a corner and it goes in off Taks or off Conor Cody or something like that And it's enough and those are the sort of results Frankly only the sort of results that you can see us getting You know between now and the end of the season and but the end of the day three points to three points And that's maybe what we have to trade off, you know And if we are difficult to beat at the back then we give ourselves a fighting chance But do you guys think we said this after the arsenal game that even though, you know This is a classic one of those games that we'd kind of like give it up a little bit We he didn't feel like Arsenal were gonna get back into the game I feel like his we've talked a lot about lack of game control and game management under lampard I never felt even when we won I didn't feel like we were fully in control of games It's just that they didn't take their chances. We managed to take ours Whereas I feel bar this aberration and as we get more games will know We've got a bigger source pool to draw from with under Dyche, but by the Liverpool game We seem to be developing a little bit of of game of game management game control being in control of situations rather than You know what it was like before and the lampard as soon as the team the opposition had the ball We're heading towards us. You just think now here we go again Keystone cops time that kind of thing. So it was it was good to see I feel that there is there is a little kind of Seeds of that beginning, you know, yeah, there's no there's no like onslaught is that there's no We're not defending like we would defend them under lampar Which is essentially getting bodies in the way of the shots and the goalkeeper having to make saves We're actually defending through the midfield and and then the defense defenders are defending probably rather than blocking shots So yeah, we're not encouraging people to take shots that may or may not go in and I think that's that's been that's been the Big difference. I think that's a pickford. I mean, it's really good point Actually, you think pickford was like Hollywood saving even losing games But I feel like I've seen less highlights of amazing pickford saves. He's probably got less to do under dice Yeah, well, I think I think for me There's been a there's been a balance shift and actually, you know pickford's work load going down is Resulting in in Ghana gaze workload going up. Hmm. Yeah, you know and players like him But him in particular, but I think under dice is you know, he's he's he's sort of stamped His authority on him and he's made him realize how actually important he is to the whole thing because you know if we can cut Stuff out there before it even gets to the back foot. Yeah You know, I think Andy just made a really good point on the two home games I mean we scored against Arsenal after an hour or so Saturday was very similar and yet we've managed another 35 odd minutes without really being On under that much pressure and that again leads into you what you've just been saying there Dave is that I think Frank Lampard like Pett said Frank Lampard way of trying to cope Was almost let them have the ball Open to the edge of the box and then make sure we've got loads of bodies in the way and then we try and stop the shot Well, well, we'll try and get in the way of the hit shots almost Whereas it seems That dice is poor dice is put three in midfield there and they are trying to cut it off at source And so Cody and Tarkovsky have got a little bit less to do Pickford didn't have a shot to save on Saturday Yeah, she had himself after the game. He said it was the quiet game for me. He had not really to do so Yeah, that's the way that's the way we want it. Well, that but you know a lot of it self-inflicted Well, you know look at through the Lampard era huge amount of stuff We shot ourselves in the foot when the team wasn't doing particularly well give them a give a mistake and get back to the game So that's not happy, you know, Liverpool was different again This is that's that kind of psychological thing that we've got overcome in time But it's like a healing process this but I feel like the the the keystone cops mistakes are being cut out That there is a confidence growing clean sheets and stuff like that It's something that we've not been used to as as Evitonians as well So and it was a crucial weekend because God if we hadn't won that game everything else around us was Nightmare set of results if you're not gonna get three points yourself. Yeah, no, absolutely The last time we went back to back home games bars was last season when we beat Newcastle and then beat Manchester United There was nearly a month between the two games though. That's why we didn't feel like back to back home games Well, we'll take that Yeah, so that shows you doesn't he's come in and he's immediately these these took six points out of nine And a pet was saying yesterday, you know, imagine if we carried on that straight We'd have no issue. What do you repeat we'd end up halfway up, but we've just got it You know, we've got Villa this weekend. It's a big it's a tough game that they've got goals in them So it's a tough tough game this one, but again, you know, they've ever been to be fill a Saturday There's only four points between them and us. So they're arguably pulled back into it Yeah, so, you know, it's it's It's in our hands as much as it can be Oh, the whole thing's really tight. They look right the way up the table. It's there's hardly anything in it Really, yeah, and that's why like you said Andy Saturday was huge for us because if we'd have come off 0-0 or or the eat at one guard, we'd you know, we'd be biting it wouldn't we now see if we If we play like we played against Arsenal Against Villa on Saturday, we should win. Yeah, we should do And these are hypothetical, but if they approach it in that way And I hope that they do give Villa the same kind of respect that they gave Arsenal and the same kind of work ethic And the same cup final atmosphere They can beat them. Yeah, you know, I mean, listen, they're a far better side than the leads are at the minute But we're desperate for those points. So they're not as good as Arsenal, are they? I still I've never given them for their antics with the old plastic bottle No, no, no Gerard smirking walking off the pitch is that absolutely one of the most hateful team performances I've ever seen in my entire life I just want the absolute worst for them. The absolute worst for Villa Fair enough. Hey, what can you say? Let's that's enough, Evan. It was good. Hopefully we'll win at the weekend And we'll take you from there Um Mike who comes in frequent the studio and absolutely loves this podcast We don't ask them to call me just he just turns up turns up feeding a cat in the neighborhood. Yeah, listen Yeah, but he comes in with different looks, which is great. He turned up as um I forgot his name in Greg Wallace yesterday. So fair play to fair play incidentally, by the way, sir On the subject of which, I mean, I I appreciate there's probably a more formal booking system But at some point my cousin paul wants to come in and he wants to he was asking where the He was asking where toffee tv was done from and I was saying that obviously it was it was like the hollywood of hailwood Yeah, yeah So I said that at some point I would take him in for a full guided tour and possibly a complimentary brew as well So I'll put that in with you near at the time and a show He can be on it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We could we could yeah killed two birds with one stone Exactly. Um But what Mike's asked is Have you got any embarrassing tv shows or films that you really like but you feel like you can't tell anyone I've got loads of that you really, you know that you didn't see I've got straight away I mean, I mean that that this discussion before is like You shouldn't really be embarrassed if you if you like something you like it don't you but difference is it was in them Well, I mean there's loads of loads of there's loads of things that I've been in and been embarrassed about But I mean in terms of the the the current question. Oh, there's loads of I don't know where you want to start I mean First dates as first dates hotel. There's George Clark's amazing spaces George Clark's amazing spaces But there's all these things. I've got all of these things on planner and I don't care. Yeah Love island Dave. What's your position on love? My position is I'm I'm it's not for me. Yeah, which is unfortunate given given the the conversation topic We've done of course some things to say. Yeah, it's not for me. Sorry pause bush. Yeah, and bush Yeah, it's not it's not it's not my bag. No, is it yours, Andy? Yeah, I have to admit we we watch quite a bit of this this series, but we've kind of given up on it I think it's hit that wall now. We used to love it I used to absolutely love love island and it was exactly what you're saying about as one those ones were I would lie about not watching it I feel like it was it which we're saying is it in the in the courtyard denying Jesus cockerel going off Yeah, is it some people and then all you're talking about, you know, yeah It was a bit like that I feel like I'd deny I'd lied and denied that I watched it when deep down. I actually did watch it But this this year Dalton Thomas. You mean who's that Dalton Thomas down is that down in Thomas good good, uh, biblical knowledge there out nubby No, no, no. Oh, yeah That was all I could watch that Would you ever think about doing your own version, Andy? Maybe like bush island or something? You know Imagine that just heavily pixelated if show me Japan. Yeah, yeah Yeah More bush What is What is the Japanese's problem of pubic hair? I don't know. I don't know It's all like it's all like the the Commodore 64 loading Yeah screen. That's all you see It before the patch comes I'm gonna I'm gonna say sorry wait. What what are you watching Japanese wise? That is I'm just saying it's just if you if you've ever seen Someone from Japan without the clothes on it's generally a company Well, I haven't seen a real life I feel that we've got a real division in the camp here and and paid listen I'm very much on your side because unlike these clear history boys is I don't think I've ever watched anything that it's I feel yourself naked or indeed pixelated late at night Unbelievable. I I think he's lying. How are those? Yeah, I know Listen, they they know they know they know it's just it's just a genuine question I don't know why that is though, but there's a read there's for some reason It's the the pubic hairs pixelated if if if they've gone full Hollywood So there's no pubic hair. Is it still pixelated? But again, he's talking more Hollywood than Hailwood. Yeah, exactly. Is it still pixelated if there's no pubic hair there? I don't know I don't know. Maybe someone can sell us. Maybe someone can sell us. I don't know Exactly, so I'll go back to the question Bush's Bush has gone with Love Island Dave Dave. Give us this whole planet. Which is fine Which is fine um Ped come on that's it. Yeah, because you are You will he'll deny anything like this now although. What was it a while ago that you liked and I was like I can't believe you watch that. What was it? It'll come to me. Have you got anything else? that you are No, there's nothing. I don't watch anything like that. They are horrendous waste of time of your life I do watch a lot of youtube stuff though where it's You where I think you should all go. What what are you like if you caught me watching it? It'd be waste and catching me watching Japanese honestly Like I what I watch a lot. I watch like a lot of weird stuff like um Like a guy just basically gets on a plane flies from one place to another and just basically charts his journey And there's nothing exciting. He doesn't go anywhere Guy's called no Phillips is actually massive in terms of like his youtube numbers I watch stuff like that where like people Get off What there's another guy I watch who basically just takes train Trips across like continents. I mean Michael Portillo. Do you mean? Yeah Yeah, yeah without without the obvious obvious elements of of uh, Michael Portillo, um Just stuff like that weird travel box Blocks where you don't actually go anywhere. You don't see anything You just he's either on a plane or a boat or on it on it. You're not you're not like Portillo strange Janie's where you actually do I actually do like those kind of shows. Yeah, I actually I I I loved like I love trains I do I'm a weird train person. I worked on them for six years and I love train janeys I went to apart from when the bleeding conductor comes up talking in germany. Yeah in germany. Yeah Where's your favorite station pad? Birkenhead I've maybe seen pancreas or the garden. No, um, do you like crew? No cruise is shit. Oh I like I like I had to do it. I had to do a journey once I actually was the guard on a train once to from It was it was the first this is not an interesting story, but it was the first train journey train stories by pet It was it was the first It was the first journey from crew to Liverpool I'm sitting god knows how long it's a new service And they were making a big deal of it and and I was I was the guard on it And the the company worked so hard for me to not be the guard on it but by just like the fate of of what my My the you know the time I was on that day. I was on it and oh my god It was embarrassing to see all the bosses try and make sure that I was not in any of the pictures in any Because it was like the embarrassment that I was the garden Um, did you get stew stuff on the the tannoy? Do you do all the? Oh, I nearly I nearly got sacked many times for doing the tannoy announcements genuinely At the stuff I used to say on the tannoy was was even when it wasn't my train I'd sometimes go in the in the in the guard room and do Mad announcements that were with board. Well, you wouldn't you wouldn't get away with it these days. That's all I'm saying I mean, what were they offensive? They were massively offensive massive Yeah, massively offensive and in like the name You know Is there a mike home on the platform? Porkies he's gone full porkies. Yeah, I was young. I was foolish. No, but I we went to leon once to watch evan Full train journey down to down to leon on the train Me and my missus went from amsterdam to paris on the train with playing Different versions of the born identity in the theme music all the way along, you know classic things like that It sounds boring. I just I'm there is a really really boring side to me I think I think you've been a bit harsh on yourself pet. Yeah. I just I just really like trains massive I just love them so it's like so when there's like one of those shows on that same You know, uh, a great train journey across, you know, whatever. I love them I do I do watch them as well to be fair Do you know what we should get you actually maybe for for a significant birthday if there is one coming up? And I don't know whether there is or there isn't that we should we should have a word with you know I think andy with with yours and my showbiz contacts, you know Oh, yeah on them on the old showbiz be able to mainly No, we should we should get on to uh, we should get on to pete waterman, right? Because waterman is mad on trains. In fact, I think he has his own train track in his In the grounds while his castle in castle waterman and we should get him a special Let's do it. Let's do it. Let's do a show from castle. Let's do a show with pete waterman From his place while pets on the train that that's a me son That is legend. I'm not too sure pete. Coventry, isn't he? Is he coventry? Isn't he warrington based? I think he was coventry. I remember right, but all crew even Um, but loads of those train journeys are on my bucket list when you watch some of those Changes, especially the ones through switzerland. They are unbelievable some of the things on them We want to do we we've been inquiring about it, but it's so expensive. We're not going to do it Is the caledonia sleeper overnight train? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's so expensive. I mean, I'd love to do it But it's so price. I've I've done the sleeper back from Cornwall before And I got the sleeper and and you know what it's the first and only time I've got a sleeper And I was thoroughly impressed at the point where I actually thought that people should do this more often because I actually had dinner in Cornwall And then I got a taxi to the train station in par, right? Which is also in Cornwall and I got on the train and I went to sleep and I woke up in Paddington station That was just dreamy. It was great. It was fantastic. I didn't know they did it from the south upwards Are we you should know this as a west country man? I know I should that's amazing Is that when is that the weekend you were doing paddleboarding with pasties in there? No, no, this is a long time ago. This was this within in in radio one days when we'd done board masters at Watergate Bay near Newquay, and then I got the the sleeper back and it was good We did Amsterdam to Hanover as well on the train to go and watch everything in Wolfsburg, which was again phenomenal, just phenomenal. There's no better way to travel. No trains are amazing. You can open a You can open a couple of cans and just chill out and It's beautiful. I love it. I love it. No one knew we were doing train change repetitive. There you go. There you go He loves trains, doesn't he? Train driver. But you know what though? What's weirdest though? Occasionally I do wake up. I do have dreams of like Working on the railway and I do wake up in real cold sweats like Don't put me through that again. I'll push them in solid for you. You don't want to go and work where you love your journey. So That's what that's what's improving me. Yeah, interesting. Very interesting. Can I just bring up something? Oh, yeah, go on this week. Go on. I listened to him yesterday And I was so I was thinking six, you know, 60s of kevin bacon and there is there is andy bush with Hugh jachman Oh, yeah, what a lovely man. He is a nice man, isn't he? nicest man in the world Really nice man. I'd love to be in the shape he is. I don't know how old he is I think he's like 51 or something like that, but he's uh, a good nick, isn't he? He's incredible nick I mean, uh, I felt like a different species when I was stood next to him He's got a new film out called the sun Which is quite a serious kind of, um Drama about a family dealing with their lads their teenage lads got mental health issues And they're struggling to deal with it. So uh, it's one of those interviews where it's like Incredibly serious topic, but then you're trying to Have a bit of fun with them Did he come in the studio? He did. Yeah That must be amazing. Yeah That must be amazing because normally those junkets you get like six minutes with them. Don't you know something? Yeah, then you have a woman who's there who does the Who just does all of this they call them the windmill lady, you know, it's fascinating though, right? I find junk. It's fascinating because You know, you'll go to like the big hotel. They've you've done this loads of times yourself We go to big hotel you sign in then you sit in a waiting room in silence with loads of other people You know, but never spoken to from the media and then Then they make you sit in a hallway outside the room where the star is sat with all the kind of like cameras behind them And by that point, I remember interviewing Daniel Craig for spectre the And I was sat 25 feet away from him. He had about 15 people behind him I had this woman give me hand signals like she was the bloody catcher in the baseball game And it's just what what happens is like a psychological battle They they you end up beating out of their hands You just do what they want you to do because you're too scared to try and do anything different It's such an unusual social situation. It's very weird It's good when they come in because you can make them a cup of coffee and then put them at ease a little And also, I think psychologically they are in your world The power shifts because otherwise when you're when you're gonna do the junk it They are very much in charge them and the windmill lady, right? It's their gig, right? And you are simply guests and when they say go you go whereas when they're in your world You're in charge. You can boss it 100% 100% So we've started to do only do interviews when they come in Rather than the only one we've been out to do is the rock who was really he was brilliant, but Otherwise normally wouldn't go and go and do it anymore now because just you don't get anything good out of it No, yes minutes with someone as a joke That's brilliant that though. That's the that's what you want. We we demand that don't we bud We demand people coming to our studio. Yeah, no because it is we've done obviously like when we done Like Frank Lampard and stuff. It's you know great and he was fine, but you you are come in and what happened to him Exactly You weren't you weren't going in standing outside Wayne Rooney's house. Were you in a sort of orderly queue? I mean you said no, I tell you what Wayne if you want to talk to us you come here Do you guys ever go into the the press conferences at Everton? Do you go to those? We went to Carl once he lost his one which was decent and we were told we're in a lot to ask questions Honestly, God, they are absolutely the most pathetic people on earth I can't stress that enough how terrified the people at Everton are of of of us. It's it's so pathetic Honestly, it's genuinely like you would think that they would want nice honest questions about football that matters instead of Idiots who don't have a clue, but they're absolutely terrified. It was not an issue to the point where we we actually have to pay we pay for press conferences and on on saturday our press commons didn't appear because The guy supposed to went he was supposed to go just disappeared into literally into thin air No one knows where he is. We still haven't had the press conference So it's like it's like Everton are doing the best to make sure we don't get it but Very very very very expensive go press conferences. That's the new Yeah, we can't go We just get sent the stuff and we have to pay for it. It's absolutely mad. It's absolutely mad but what the What's just a strange thing on the huge often is if you go in the evidence shop in in town in Liverpool city centre There's actually a picture of Hugh Jackman Just just behind where they print the shirt holding the Tim Kale shirt And I wish I've known because I would have asked because I would have asked you Andy I would have said because there is a thing that Hugh Jackman opponents being getting asked Would he like to buy into football clubs in this country to piss Ryan Reynolds off and if I'd known he was coming I would have asked you to ask him because that would have been a great question And I think we're doing a whole segment on blues Exactly And you could have said You already have got a little affinity for Everton because you you had Tim Kale's shirt And we could have linked it all in and it could have been amazing, but once again, wouldn't it be great though? Don't tell your friends. I I'm so sorry about wouldn't it have been great though Would it be great if we in the future got a kind of like a Hollywood Duo owners or something like that that'd be nice thing for the blues going forwards, wouldn't it? I mean great little Netflix documentary or something going on as well We'd have to be good though You know you're saying how he had Tim Kale's shirt I mean and this is something that I don't mind admitting Um is I've got I've got Leon Osman shorts Fair enough they don't normally get Genuinely and and the thing is and and I and I I still wear them because because you know Leon's always been quite a Slight man like I go running in them But what happened was and if it's a years ago and I don't remember how how this came around But there was someone that I knew who was involved in the kit stuff at Everton And I got a load of secondhand kits and I got Leah You know, they've got the little number 21 on the on the on the on the leg I've got Leon's You know, he doesn't know that but but I have them and I cherish them to frame them or anything You you you actually run around in them. I use them and I wash them. Yeah, absolutely fair play You can't frame that frame Sure, I think that's a honor the man, isn't he? You honor the man by wearing them. Keep talking a second. Hang on. You keep on. You've gone It's going to get them All right, well, yeah, well there's a question off Wayne Ellis. This is it's an editing question But I will ask it anyway. Where does Gray and Godfrey fit in the Shaun Dyche system? Can I just say Gray and Godfrey? No, when you say it like that, they sound like Characters from Dad's army, don't he? Gray and Godfrey? Well, maybe Look, look, look. Oh, here we are. Before we answer the Gray and Godfrey thing. Oh, the blue ones as well. Nice Are they training the training shorts, Andy? Yeah They'll see those are Leon's and they see what I go running And you've got to feel like you've got to feel good about you're still fishing them. I think that's the nature thing, isn't it? That's good. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, we've been in those days but Dave or is it just uh, just uh, I mean they've got they've I mean the way that if you're interested the way that they tighten and not they've got like a draw string here And actually because I've lost a bit of weight of late. I've actually they're actually tighter than they used to be But honestly, these have been all around the world with me That's what you know, I went to these these were these were in the world cup in 2006 in Germany when we had embrace on the show and we're having a kick around with them I was wearing my shorts They ought to be over them over the moon. Is he aware of this do you think? I don't know. These have done seven miles with John Bishop for Comet Relief and just before he saw Dermot Leary Honestly, they've been everywhere. I mean the good quality then quite clearly And listen, yeah tremendous quality. I mean these these have been washed umpteen times by me never never mind You know how many times they were washed by the Everton Kittman? Exactly Oh, I don't know. It's weird, isn't he doesn't kind of um, doesn't kind of fancy them at the moment I do like gray. I do find me incredibly frustrating his end product and everything But he can change a game when he when he's brought on particularly if you can kind of cut him from the wing He's very direct. Yeah, something that we lack a little bit with with, you know, the rest of the team I mean, I feel like gray has now become Moved away from being a starter to being a kind of roll of the dice impact player for like second half But as for godfrey, I wouldn't want to break up the kodi-taki, you know nightclub bouncer combo that they've got going What about the fall back position now? Is he a good fallback? I never know whether godfrey is a good fallback or not. I mean he can he can cover right back, honey I mean that's the what concerns me a little bit is the fact that He clearly wants shamus in there for his experience and also his his captain scene his leadership in there And I do understand that You know paterson's you know coming back now. He played for He played for the reserves, didn't he? Um But I worry about overusing shamus. Yeah And you know, he would always be you know, I would have him in Above above Nathan paterson at the moment, but he can't play all of these games So maybe there's a role for for godfrey and maybe paterson in a bit of a rotation thing going round In terms of demari great I I would like to think there's a role for him because he's one of the few players that we have Who who does carry a goal threat and yeah, um and personally I I mean, I'm not I'm not talking about been playing to all all all 90 minutes But I'd have him I'd stick him up front and I'd be using him as a replacement for mopey Maybe you know, I mean if he has to play mopey Then then so be it because we haven't got anybody else to an extent But I I'd want I want demari greater be coming on to actually offer something else or interchange those two Okay. Hey, this is from mark mach hypothetically if we were ever meant to change zed cars What tunes would they fit in on the bush like us to bounce out to as two djs? Or have everton got a mascot instead of the toffee lady? What would it be? so I'd like to go put my hand in the ring for uh, um, spanish flea That'd be quite a nice little something a bit jaunty to come to Do Because I don't like the fact that whatford have got sex zed cars. Yeah, but they just well copied us just do one with Yeah, do you mean like can't we can't we issue them with it with a copyright strike? Well, was it, you know, it's instant assist. Yeah, can't we issue one of those because they shouldn't have that? They shouldn't be allowed. No, totally. They should have an elton jones song Yeah There's yawns from far song I I um, I had zed cars when my first wedding I came down the aisle to zed cars My wife did fair play That's cute. I like that. There you go. Nice link. Um That had no bearing on the ultimate I was gonna say yeah I mean, I don't think so. I mean, there was multiple things Okay, I mean that might have been a tiny part of it, but we'll move on from that Um, Matt said and said they what positions would you play if toffee tv had a seven aside team and why? Well, I'd be the centre forward matt end of So where would you be roaming roaming up front? You'd be off you coming up with me. Are you bush? No, I'm I'll be terrible. Can't can't shoot at all, but I'm I just be in the middle Just keeping the ball ticking over I think you have a place in our squad Okay, where are you? Me? Yeah Um, well, I always played out on the right at school. So so why not there? Yeah, I'll see they play some games there That's right. Have your Aussie short on petro. Are you a year centre back or are you moving up to that left or No, I I'd probably just be at the back and I'd probably just dominate the entire pitch I imagine so, um, you know, just to just to keep things in in balance Yeah, okay We've got the It's kind of sucks roll down kind of guy. So I'm getting that vibe from you. No, not really. No, I'm just I'm just I'm just uh Yeah It's just as simple as that and No one's getting past me Glenn Watson said the four of you go on the remake of the classic 90s show the crystal maze Representing the one All right, I haven't finished Let's do it. Let's do it. I'm gonna film it You know, sorry, sorry Let me know Sorry, we keep interrupting and I know it's really but they've got one in Manchester. They have. Yeah. They have to stay out. Let's do it I've done it when it So said with us No, I know I'm just I've done it. No, I'm vouching for the fact that they've got one It's very good and and I would very much enjoy the opportunity of going at doing with you three right T-day out. Let's do it Let's get a date when the bush isn't covering for whoever he covers for or interviewing bleeding The marvel Cover anyone He's one of the pillars of absolute radio. Thank you very much. Thanks. We know that we know that but you're also Exactly Is that what it's called? You just do cover What's the guy used to play for everton that you used to played every position alan harper Yeah, swing jock. I'm not one of them. I'm not alan harp not bad. All right You could have said I'm bush yet it couldn't you that was your moment to say it's my name yet Um, but glenn on the back of the question started asking We'd go as the wonderful 1878 podcast There are four challenges four of you as contestants. How would you split the following tasks between you mental skill physical and mystery? I don't those four who's doing what are you doing all of them, Dave? Just keep sending Dave back in yeah, he just going in while we just drink coffee Yeah, I mean physical strength has got to be pet. He's got a honey badger vibe about him. Yeah, he has got the honey badger He's full He won't release just No, get off get off pet. So pet your finger in his mouth. Get off. Pets suck the physical So we're left with mental skill and mystery I mean, I'm very much a man of mystery, but I I'm you know, I think maybe my mental agility. Okay. So Dave's on mental. So bush being you have got skill or mystery Which ones you want? Um, I think you do mystery Me that's because of your strange your holiday in that you weren't in any of the photos. Okay. That's kind of mysterious I mean, I've got But there you go. I am I am an international man of mystery. So I will take the mystery which leaves you with the skill Which is fine. Yeah, I think you might be the I think he's the tinder swindler He's never in a year. Yeah, definitely. Oh, definitely. Yeah, um, and I'll do skill. I'll do a bit of close hand magic Or you're going for skill. Sure. And that's a follow-up question. Who'd be the captain? That's what Glenn says. It's what it is. It's one is it's you know, I don't want to speak too too much on your behalf bush but I will I think it's one of you two and I don't know. I mean, who is captain out of you two who's who's who's who's the more, you know, dominant one Out of me and who? No, I know out of these two Ed and Baz who's the more dominant one out of you two? Release the louder one. So we can I'm the karma one. So it's it's whether we want calm and calculated or we want In your face What's gonna leave us? I'm happy to I'm happy to let pet do it to be honest I think pet pet would pull you out of the of the challenge too quickly when you Baz a bit bit calmer and go right to the last couple of seconds and say, right Yeah, get out run out of time. We can't get the crystal Yeah, it's a tough one. It's a tough one. We'd have to think about tackling. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um Um, Paul black and white. I mean tremendous says if pet reckons his air fryer is so versatile Could we stick out a number nine shit? To be stick out in a number nine shake up. Yeah Paul yeah, that doesn't anyway. You better breathe. Hey, I mean, you know, uh, I've been doing them The air fryer tonight, don't you? Pancakes. No fair. That's a day. Quite a few people doing that do everything Isn't that against the the ethos of pancakes pet to do an ethos? I mean, I can't I'm not sure I'm gonna pick it up and top stuff. Yeah How are you doing that? Hang on. Hang on. Hang on. Hang on. Can I can I just because I'm confused by this? I'm not confused about a lot even even though, you know, there was an air fryer in our family now Okay, but I'm still slightly congratulations. Well done. Well done It's called a ninja and how How would you Do a pancake in an air fryer because the whole nature of pancakes is that they're ultimately start off as more of a wet product And then they dry but with the aid of heat in a flat surface, which is what you don't get in an air fryer Let me tell you Dave Well in my seven and one air fryer it becomes with a hot plate and you put the hot plate on the grill And then you and then you you get your batter you get it nice and hot because it has a it has a Reset so it sets itself on to have a Heat before you cook and then when you pour the batter on it'll create beautiful pancakes You lift them off and then then that's how you do it But I mean, can you not get the same effect with a with a frying pan? I don't use frying pans. I'm past that kind of that's like that's like saying to a man who's got a car Do you want to use a horse? So you're like future cooking pet you're cooking in the future. I'm in the blade runner. Yeah I'm in the future. There's no frying pans in Ryan Gosling's flat in blade runner Exactly. There's only very very fit Sexy holograms imaginary women. Yeah. Oh sexy holograms. Sexy holograms. That's the future. That is the future air fryer No, that can air fry Exactly. I mean, that's that's the dream obviously That is the sex robots. It's Bruce says you can tell Dave Thanks for jumping ahead of me at the bar in the Spello pre-match with crying faces Did you do a bit of bar jumping Dave? You know what? There was a there was a fella to me left. It was and it could well have been him Here's the thing though because there's a certain when when you read a when you read a bar But it's kind of just life, isn't it? It's how it works Is that you know you start off sort of four deep and then you sort of you get through and you have to do that shoulder thing You know when someone turns around with you or three Yeah, you have to kind of squeeze past them and as they vacate a space you kind of go into it And then you you have to do you kind of You have to sort of tee yourself up for the ordering process And I always find that you have to Kind of jump on the back not literally of course because that would be weird But kind of jump on the back of the order order in front of you So as as said person how are they going to turn with the pint if you're on the back? I don't know difficult. Well, well, you just go straight round, wouldn't you? But the thing is that as they're getting their their drinks delivered You then have to just quickly just momentarily jump on the back of that and then put your order in So that there isn't that time for them going to catch the eye You've got to catch the eye But you've got and I did that because otherwise I could be then waiting for another three people Easily my line in the line Yeah, I don't think people understand though Ordering a pint can be so stressful. I mean, there's no rhyme or reason to me There's no queuing system people just pile up and then it the power that the bar You know the guy behind the bar the lady behind the bar has yeah The king maker To be honest with you though ordinarily in most pub bar situations I'm actually very aware and very courteous of Who is who's been there before? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah, you've got it And often kind of go no no no not me. It's him Because however when it's when it's 20 to three getting closer as it was I think someone that goes out the window, but I would what was his name again? Sorry Spruce like like it's three Okay, well spruce. I'd like to hear by apologize for for jumping ahead of you in the spellow And that was potentially rude and I can only apologize. There you go. You say as well anyone anyone who anyone who gets cocktails in in pubs or Coffees or people even have I'm gonna even say people are wasting time with Guinness Have your own line they need to waste time people who want bloody cocktails or isn't this the whole Isn't this the whole thing that is wrong with maybe going going into pubs is that the the queuing system is so Okay, that we need something new we need a coffee there with a Guinness line We need just proper organization But you know what and it's it's not it's not complicated and actually in one of my local pubs here What happens is people queue in one line And then they come round and they've got whatever three or four people serving them Which means that when you get round there, you're in a village with 15 people. That's right This is the big city. This is the big city, Dave I know I know but you know what, you know, you know when you go into those bars like this Where sometimes on a saturday night, you just kind of think I'm just losing the world to live. I haven't got the patience for this What about a nap then? What about if you ordered off a nap? It was good to be knocked down. There was a bit of a poor dream where they bring it out to you Like that. That was good. If you could do without the other bit, then that might just People don't have mojitos. Just want to like knock them I can't remember the last time I went in a pub. I'm honest. No, so let's move on Rouge says it not so much of a topic but a follow-up to the Super Bowl out there from last week Tubi TUBI a TV streaming service It cuts from the commentary and went straight to People's interface and click through onto a show as if someone oppressed the remote It literally had people flipping out and now families are posting videos from the room cameras of them going mental because they thought someone was sitting on the remote Very clever Next level next level outfit. I know who has room cameras That's a bit bad at that I mean, you do get listened to I mean if you've got like an Alexa and all this kind of We we did an experiment recently where I talked out loud about um, like bridges or something And then I was getting adverts for like well not adverts for bridges because I don't think bridges What are they advertising? No Come and walk over us. We're really steady I mean, I did do some some bridge based art last week, but no you did you would I heard that show On instagram you were talking about what your what what your favorite bridge was People were saying that they loved the Humber Bridge. What was that? There was an amazing fact in there actually to do with the Humber Bridge where they said Wasn't it to do with the the fact that the Humber Bridge is slightly so long that it's slightly curved And it's due with the curvature of the earth which makes oh my god. That's mad, isn't it? Humber bridge of all places. Do you know me? That's incredible. Yeah, your phone's great. Your phone's the listening to you Yeah, yeah, I just want to put out There'll be if you're talking about side like We were talking the other day about the river cruises, you know Viking river cruising all my instagram is now every other thing is This river cruise that river cruise What's the other thing the other thing is scantily glad women, but that's the way it is. That's just the way instagram is That's okay, but you're whatever That's not me That's for the instagram Mark Cotten has asked for the weirdest conspiracy conspiracy theory We've heard but I feel like we should keep that for next week because that could be quite a I mean, listen, I feel we've given a lot this week already. Oh god. We are for me Leon Osmond short pet strain journeys Bush and his pixelation of Japanese porn. It's being unbelievable We've not even got around to bush's big barcode right the way let's save that to next week because that was That was going to be a huge one today, but but bush's big barcodes. Let's write that down as a major as a major discussion point next week Bush's big cup on the way Yeah, weirdest conspiracies and also the change of the milk bottles from the Yeah, to clear. Yeah, I'm not I'm not having it. No. No, it's cause you know a lot to discuss in next week We have oh We'd like left it on a cliffhanger and we've done that thing like that all shows do with the tea up next week show Give a little clip into it. It's almost now. Like this is what we should be doing every week. But there you go We see if you've got prime. Have you got prime members, right? You've got you've got patrons people who yeah Yeah, you should have a bit at the end where you know like the adult channel used to pixelate after like a couple of minutes So there's a lot of pixelation in this week. So you're obsessed with pixelation I know listen. I have a way around this so effectively it would be like an encore, wouldn't it for people? It's just just bear with me, right? Yeah Oh, it's gone off visual. Yeah, we can use leon shorts as the theatrical curtain Okay So then the curtain will come down like that right and then you think the show is finished, right? But then We're here again bonus content bonus content bonus content for premium subscribers For the second day, I thought Hugh Jackman was gonna be I wonder if Hugh Jackman looks here Let's try it again. Let's see. Let's see if he is. Okay. Or Sheila the barber It's not Sheila's Gillian Gillian the Scottish barber. You really struggle. Okay I mean, I don't know what's going to be behind here. That's Ryan Reynolds. It's pixelation. It's Dave. Why is he pixelated? Right, shall we leave it there? I think that's for you for the best. That's a good one I know you two gentlemen are very busy. So thank you very much as always for joining us And we'll be back next week with a bushes big barcodes amongst other topics. Enjoy your pixelation. See you later