 Big shit, big shit, big shit, huh. Name another podcast like this. We're gonna bring it to the table. Boss talk, who your girlfriend favorite? Boss talk, we gonna do it how you want it. Boss talk, yeah, everybody on it. Boss talk, it's. Check it, check it, check it. This is a unique house, it's your boy, E-CEO, and I'm here with the lovely official, Mr. Mako, what's going on? None of my dad walk on it. Man, man, say man, hey man. Amen, God, it's good, man. Very good. He didn't drop the jewel in here on us, man. You know what I'm saying, man? The guy showed us love, man. We pulled up in Atlanta, we didn't have a clue, man. Brother just showed us man love in the city, man. And hey, man, that's how you know he's special, man. Check it, man, K-Mages in the building, man. What's up, man? We in here. Say, man, loving it, man. It's summer day in Atlanta. Hey, man, I'm loving it down here, man. So where do a dude go, man, like me, when he come to town, man? Anywhere. Strip club, capital on. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, that's the dope movie, man, y'all got him down here. Best food in the strip clubs. Yeah, man, so when I think about Atlanta, I just think about Party Central. You know what I'm talking about? It is. I'm being real. That's what, when I used to come for my birthday, I'd be like, man, I'm going down there to walk out. That's where people go. Yeah, they like, I'm coming to Atlanta. Every year. But has it always been like that? Or is it just like that? I feel like my whole like, yeah, it's been like. You've lived here all your life? Well, I'm from Cardisville, Georgia. Oh, yeah? Which is 45 minutes north. Yeah, still. I've been here. Yeah, you here, man. Yeah, so it's always been like this. Like that's the go-to. Yeah. So who is K-Major, man? K-Major, singer, songwriter, producer, engineer. Wow. You know what I'm saying? CEO. CEO started off how old? When I was 12 years old. Man, it's dope. And when you say singer, you really mean like singer? Like I said, yeah, I said. I had to check because nowadays you have a lot of, the younger generations say I'm a singer, but they will never sing without auto tune. Oh yeah. Well. Yeah. Because that's like the end thing now. Yeah. Me personally, I'm old school, so I love the R&B, like old school. I came up like stage performance. But I'm new school, and I'm old school, but I love like both. Like both. Yeah. I'm strictly old school. She really old school. Like, yeah. I like to blend it. I like to blend it. But it is a lot of the new schools. The new schools, yeah. Man, this dude is dope, man. He got music with Augusta Sino. He got music with Jacquees. This dude, this dude dope right here. Appreciate that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. How did you get those hookups with them? So I've been working with Jacquees since he was like 16 years old. You know what I'm saying? We met through a mutual artist, Issa, which is his cousin. Yeah. I did a lot of early work with Issa when I was coming into the game. Okay. He was like 16 then, and he had a record deal. I was making beats with one of my mutual friends and bumped into Jacquees for the energy. Wow. You need to work with me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hyper, hyper, hyper. It has to be kindred spirits though for you to be able to work together because if you meet somebody that their spirit is just not, even if you want to work with them, it's gonna be hard to build that chemistry and produce something good. Yeah, it was easier for me because I had started my record label in high school. So I was already used to like seeing star potential and potential in other artists other than myself. Where'd you get that from? Who taught you all of that? These are in high school. Yeah, I'm in a military family so like we traveled a lot, different cultures, different ethnicities. So it was like always a leadership role when it came to like my relationship with friends. Anybody else in the music industry in your family? My dad does professional booking so he does all my booking and then my mom, she played piano, she did like piano lessons growing up. They didn't do anything professionally as far as artistry, but they loved music. But they had a knowledge of it so they got embedded in you from an early stage and that's good because most people who just have the talent they come up and they just want to do the art. Exactly. But don't realize that there's so much more to be an artist today compared to back then. Back then it was just, I'm just an artist. No, yeah. Now you have to be an all-around artist including knowing the business as much as you might have a team that is a control of everything. You still need to know how to do what they do. Exactly. So nobody screws you out of what you need. Exactly. It's important. It's important. It's a lack of that in the game right now. No, but to me it's gotten a lot better than what it used to be. It's a lot better for sure. Yeah, people are more aware. Internet, yeah. Internet and then also these, because we say this a lot. So people on these platforms are saying these things now and people are watching it and like, oh, and peeping game. And learning. So even, because sometimes it's hard to search on Google because you have to put the right words in to get really what you need and not what you already know. Exactly. Exactly. And so are you, you feel like, how do you like what music is at right now? I love what music is at right now. Honestly, I mean, it's a lot of, it's just a lot of creativity that's being exposed. I feel like everybody does. Art is supposed to be something you do as a voice for yourself, you know what I'm saying? Outlet. I try not to judge people's art too much to be too judgy on it. But I like that the industry is so open. Okay, okay. And like the collaboration in genres is more than ever. So it's like a lot of, it's a lot of things surfacing from the bottom to the top, like rap music being one of the number one genre. You know what I'm saying? It's big. It's real big. I mean, and it actually, it transcends culture. It transcends countries. This is dope. You starting to hear them in movies. Yeah. And you riding that whole way, you tell them which way to go. You know what I'm saying? Exactly. And we ain't trying to hear it. Is it a trend, just like everything that cycles around and come back just like in clothing. Certain bell bottoms used to be in style and all of a sudden it goes out of style and it comes right back around. Yeah, it's definitely like that. Is it the same thing with the industry? Definitely like that. Like rap is in style now then ARMY will come back later on. It's like that with a lot of things. I told my friend that earlier I was like when I first came into the game, my space was popular. Now Instagram, and I remember linking with my friends in the basement, like learning how to write songs and do music. We would dance, do little dance videos, the Soulja Boy era. Yeah, yeah. And how you see it coming back with TikTok. Yeah, yeah. It's like the same thing. They just gave it a platform. That's right. So you can just, so it's crazy to see it just coming a little bit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I like it, man. I really do, man. So when you see the youngster coming up, what do you say to him? The one that's striving to be, do the things you done done. Cause what you've done is something to be proud of. A lot of dudes will never do what you've done. Yeah. A lot of kids, I'm dealing with promoters here who I'm looking at to come up and I'm like in my mind, I told her, yeah, let her come over here. Why? I say because she's never created a, it's been years. I went back to 2014. Where is the talent? Where is the person that's supposed to pop? And that's the questions I would be asking her. Cause you in Atlanta, you either horrible at this or you, I don't know. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, it's a digital, it's more of a digital game now. It is such, I totally agree with what you're saying because on social media, like if somebody even applying for a job, first thing they look is look on social media to see what you're doing, Instagram, Facebook, whatever. So in anything you do, you need to represent your brand properly and do your research. Where's the talent at? You know what I'm saying? When I look at you, I see the work. Exactly. So I'm like, I want to talk to that guy. When I seen her, I was like, where is the, you've been doing this for a long time. Where is that talent that came from you? Because this city was booming. 2014, I was coming down here. Exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah, strokeers and all that. I was in there. Okay, okay. I come through, man. You know what I'm saying? Goosebumps, that's what y'all talking about. I know. I know. I know what you're talking about. You know what I'm saying? Like I came through here. Yeah, yeah, I was over at that thing. What's that little, the little small when they got over there, but it's big in name. What's the name of the one? You talking about magic? No, not magic. I've been there too. But no, what's that? I know what you're talking about. The other one. Blue flame. Yeah, that thing jumping, but it ain't big as I thought. When I came, I was like, man, that thing gon' be huge. You know what I'm saying? Blue flame, but then it was V Live too. V Live was big. That was who? It's King of Diamonds now. Is it? It's King of Diamonds now. So man, y'all jumping off is you. Yeah, we switched the name, you know. Yeah, yeah, but the game still same, you know what I'm saying? It's the same game. So what do, what, so are you signed or are you right now independent? I'm unsigned. I'm unsigned. So it's always been a misinterpretation or a misunderstanding of my career as a producer and writer I'm signed. Okay, got it. I have a publishing situation with Warner Chapter. Got it. But as an artist I'm independent. That's dope. So I own my own company. But then when it comes to production, you know you got it organized correctly. Yeah, I signed producers to my company. That's it. Work them through my, you know what I'm saying? I got like a system. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, bro. That's dope. So you hell of a writer I heard. For sure. Yeah, so you be right. For sure. That's the one you talk to. He knows the people. Yeah, yeah, that's who she looks like. Yeah, I love writing for other artists. It's just another outlet. If it don't make sense for me, if I'm writing a song like, oh, I can't really. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, so, so have you ever wrote songs like, dang, I don't know if I should have gave you one. No, I do it all the time. Yeah, every session, every session with every artist I work with, I write something or do something, and I'm like, dang, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, I don't know about, that's, that's the one. I should have kept that one. I should have kept that one. No, no, that's the one. Maybe just that one. Maybe just that one. That thing about the pop, you know. Yeah, it's crazy to see records work like that, though. It has to be the right voice and the right energy. Everything gotta be right, yeah. Because even when you write a song and you say, oh, I should have kept that, the person you gave it to blew it out of water, and when you did it, it would have been, it might have been okay, but it wouldn't get that scene in the back. That's what happens. Typically I do a song, I'm like, I wrote it, but it sound like a female song. I hear a female singing. I'm like, Jesus. So what about? I should have just featured her on there. So you produce the beats as well? Produce, so, do you produce beats that go the same way? You're like, dang, I should have kept that beat, you know? Same thing, most of my placements in the game for other people is beats. More beats than songwriting. I think the main artist that I've written with a lot, collaborating with was Jacquees. We did a lot just a lot of song. What don't you do? It's boy walking, walking, walking in a tank. I summarize myself, I'm like. Thank God for it, that's what I tell him. Is there anybody in the industry that you look up to that is all-rounded, that you can say, I admire that person. That's the person I wanna be like, I wanna know as much as he knows. Yeah, see, I used to be signed to The Dream, the songwriter of The Dream. Oh yeah? So he was like a big brother mentor, him and Tricky Stewart. And so I got to see somebody who was an artist, songwriter, producer. And then Dream is into art, too. So he was going to school. I don't know if he's currently still in school or not. I graduated, but he was in school for art. I'm saying to learn how to make a clothing line and draw and stuff like that. Is there some things that you'd like to branch out and see as well? Yeah, I just seen him kinda take the jobs himself. Nobody's gonna do it better than you gonna do it. Man. Which is so true, but I've learned or I'm learning to let go and let other people handle it because you can't do everything. That I'm learning the same thing. It's hard. It's hard. When you know that if you do it, you know exactly what you want. And for me, sometimes it's hard for me to explain to you what I want. I know it. I see it. You might just get out of my way. Let me just do what I need to do. That's the hardest thing. I already know how much time it's gonna take me to stay out of my way. That's the hardest thing. You performed on 106 in part? Yeah, I did that in 2010. How was that? Yeah, I did one of the last performances on 106 in part. Me and Darrell had the same conversation. I was like, man, cause I never got to go. You know it's over, but I used to watch it. I'm like, how was it? That show was prominent in my career. He says it didn't look like I thought it was gonna. Oh no, no, no. I did it right now. It's like, yeah. It's like, yeah, it's like a room and then like, yeah, it's weird. It looks a lot bigger. Yeah, it's like cameras rolling through. And like people directing you on what to do and the crowd is kind of like, they moved the crowd from this area to this area on commercial break. It's like, yeah, it's like. To make the place look bigger. Yeah, it looks super huge, but it's so small. It is so small. And you was like. Camera tricks. Camera tricks. While I wasn't. While, how was that? It was great. I performed on there. I did a contest in Memphis, Tennessee. It was like an independent artist contest. 250 artists. It's like a little $200 sign up fee. We drove up, won the contest. It came like top three. And if you win that contest, you go to BT 106 and Park. They choose like a certain day. Wow. So they all happened in the same room. Yeah. So they have like, they used to have regions where they would do like the preliminary contests. And then the winners of those contests, they would match up with other winners from other areas on a certain Wednesday. So the last one I did was with Ray Schrumert. Okay. That was actually on there. They competed, they were going by out of state boys at the time. Wow, man. So stable. I don't know. Why did 106 and Park even stop? Well, that don't even trip. Don't even trip. I'm working on some B. Yeah, it's like, we never, a lot of shows just kind of. Do you think that 106, I know what you're doing, but do you think that 106 and Park that it's still well needed, something like that? I think what's happening is people don't watch TV like they used to. That's correct. Okay. So we doing some bone. Everything is fine. But that platform as in like what they did for, do you think that's well? Yeah, if they can figure out, yeah, they should figure out how to bring it like online. No, no. I should figure that out. You should figure it out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Bring it into a place where we can have fun with it again and people can be organically drawn to. Exactly. That's all we have to do. I think the closest thing we got to that right now is like the verses thing that's going on. The verses and we're looking, we got big production coming. I'm gonna be tapping in with you now that I got all your, all your work. And I got the right people on my team. I can do whatever, man. When you strong, man, I thank God for it. You can make moves other people can't because you got, you know, the right people back. Exactly. What is the thing with the verses? You hear the challenge, you hear them singing against each other, you know, the music, you enjoying yourself, but you really don't get to hear about them. Exactly. You know what I mean? So that's why what we do on our platform and our segment normally go for hour because we always go back into, back in the days, who are you? What were you thinking? What did you go through in life to get you where you are today? Because people look at you being a celebrity and be like, ooh, I wanna be like him. He got everything, it's perfect. Nothing ever happens to him. He got money. You know that facade? Yeah. Okay, but yes, he's just a human being just like anybody else. By you telling your story and telling the people, like the kids or adults, who idolized celebrities. Exactly. What I've been through. I grew up without a daddy. I had anger issues. Or I went to prison because of X, Y, Z. Exactly. It can help somebody who's. Changed, yeah, it changed my career. Just watch your interviews and World Star and just YouTube, Breakfast Club, just anything to learn like, oh, okay, I'm not tripping. Yeah. It helps. Man, how good does it feel to not have to portray that gangster role like everybody does? Oh, I love, I love. You see what I'm saying? Yeah. That's a big deal. It was confusing coming up because being from the South, the music, so you like, okay, well, maybe I need to rap and talk about this, you know what I'm saying? And then you kind of start learning yourself. Yeah. I feel like as I progressed in life, I was kind of like, nah, it ain't me. Feel good, don't it? Yeah, I'm in my own. You ain't even, you and it's dope. Like I ain't gotta do all that. I did all, I did a lot of that. So I know how it was in my early age, coming up more than your age. I had to, you had to, you had to have a Raiders cap or something on. You had to have a, you had to have a Mac 10 or the Oozzy. You ain't deal with the Draco. You know what I'm saying? You had to have it and you had to, yeah, it was hard. I still like that one. Well, I get it, it's like that, but you ain't gotta move like that. Then that's the dope part. But not saying you don't move to protect yourself. Protect yourself, but you don't gotta be to put in that facade out there. Cause that energy brings that same energy towards you. Yeah, I always did music as an outlet. So I never wanted to do the same things or practice what I seen around me. I was trying to get out of that. So I figured like music is that, so I don't want to get into my outlet doing the same. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So you down here, man, and I ain't gonna lie. Why are you down here? You think about it. You guys are y'all circulating around all the, everybody man, everybody that you can think of, the Zatobans, the Gucci's, all these people down here. You know, and you fit. Yeah, some people don't fit. You know what I'm saying? You done did stuff for French Montana and Chris Brown. I've seen, you know, I'm just looking up. He worked with a lot. He done worked. So who else would you like to work with that you haven't worked with? That's dope. That's a good question. Cause they're all at your fingertips or maybe it could be somebody that's not even here. They gonna cut down to you. I just want to continue to work with dope people. I know, I like Pharrell. Sometimes I meet people I look up to or looked up to in Korea and I don't like them. I'm the same way. I'm the same way. I'm the same way. So it's hard. Sometimes I'm like, I don't want to meet them. I'm like, I can't hold it. They said something in the interview and I'm just like, what? Trump. Yeah, they go there and so it's like, I just, when it happens, I don't know. I don't have any, I just want to continue to move forward and work with dope people. Have you ever met somebody who wanted you to feature in something and you just didn't like their attitude or their personality? Oh yeah, I walk out. Yeah, that happened. Yeah, I'll give money back, whatever. The energy, right? I'm so peaceful. I'm a peaceful person. If it come with confrontation or it's too much. It don't fit. Yeah, if we can't talk about it and just keep moving or anything, if the song is just like, what's this? I'm gonna, yeah, it's hard. So the process and you got it, I'm gonna get him on the show at some point, but the process is you come in, somebody come in, they want to beat from you. We talked to KLC about this, who else do we talk to? Sergeant Jay, isn't it? Mad Max. Mad Max. What's the process? Like how do you know this is the beat I want to show him that he might like? You never know. You see what I'm saying? It's the latter. You shopping like here. So you might want to create a beat right then and there. Yeah, cause it's like with certain artists, you hear their songs on radio and I don't think that people think like this, but if you get in with an artist and you're used to hearing a certain sound, you think that's what they want to get. They don't want to hear it. And in their career, they might be trying to get to the next point. So sometimes you could play the next point type beat and they're like, bro, what's this? It's too weird. Yeah, yeah. And sometimes you could play what you think they like and they're like, nah, I want something different. But do you interview them? Because a lot of them say that they're going to the student and like question them. Ask them, you know, what's your vibe? Because you have to know what their mood is, how they're feeling, what they've been through to know how to create something to, you know. If I was giving advice to somebody, I would just say, pay attention. To them more than they pay attention to themselves. That's the advantage that I think I've had as a songwriter and producer, I pay attention to an artist. And I'm like, this is what you need versus. And you do your research. Yeah, definitely. I pay attention to the media. I pay attention to what's going on. And I try to get into the mental of that artist. So a lot of times in my sessions, it's artists like, how did you know that? You know, a lot, like 99% of the time. But that's good because it makes them want to always come back to you. Yeah, exactly. Because not everybody can get them. Exactly. But it's definitely just psychological. It's just like, I saw you on Instagram talking about a breakup, you know what I'm saying? I saw you, I saw your angle. I saw what you was reposting. I just seen what you was doing during that moment, going out or you just at the house. So I'm just peeping. And I'm like, OK, if I was in that moment, what kind of song would I write? Yeah, big dilemma in Dallas is like some of the artists we've interviewed. Some I'm not even from Dallas. Maybe Louisiana, wherever. It's like, how do you, how is the monetarily issues? How real is what you see? Or is the numbers, the visuals, the, you know what I mean? You too. How real is this stuff? And you should know this because you're so handsome. That's right, like, I know for sure. How real is what we see? And you see where I'm coming from? With the artistry portion of it, earlier in artist career, earlier a lot is fabricated because the artist is still learning like they're doing, they just got money for the first time and put it like, I got a bag now. I'm going to do what Future did. You see what I'm saying? I want to look like a rapper and I want to Cartier's and I want to, you know what I'm saying? So it's always that first. And then once you kind of see the reality. You start to, you start to click it. Smart artist has probably lost some money before and got it back. Nah, you see him like Drake, maybe a T-shirt and expensive chain, but nothing too. Nothing too crazy. Yeah, it's just pieces. It's like, it's crazy because when you think about it, you know, you see these guys and you see the stuff that they go through, you hear stories. Like, I remember and being in Texas, you hire a chameleon and say, you know, once you sign your deal, you know, that first portion of those deals, they were signing during that time. You fighting to try to figure everything out because there's still in money from you. It's a credit card. You see what I'm saying? A record deal is a credit card. They just give you a balance and you spend it. You gotta be mad. However you think you should spend it. Yeah. And sometimes if you're doing right, they'll give you a little more, but if not, they disappear. Should a person sign? Yeah. Should a person sign these days? All, it varies. You know, with me and my career, I've been independent so long because I don't. I've always looked at the deals and known what I was looking at. Yeah. Would you ever sign them? Yeah, for sure. For sure. If the money, right. But I would have to be in a place in my career where I just felt like, I got like three years left. What would it take for you to sign? That's good. That's good. Like, what should an artist look for to say, okay, I'm gonna sign? I know you can't really talk for any other artist to put yourself, but what would you look for? I want the money. Of course, except for the money part. That's the first part because if you're smart and you look at the money, it's like, let me go ahead and get all this money and invest in other things outside of music. Or it's like, you want creative control. You don't want somebody telling you when you can put your music out. But even with the money part, is there a certain thing in contracts that people need to look for? Because sometimes when they say, oh yeah, you getting this amount of money, but you say, oh, okay, I'm gonna sign it. And when you say, but this is not what I signed, but it's how they word it. That biggest problem is creative control in the contract. That's the biggest thing that people fight about because the percentages is right in your face. So your lawyer gonna be like, this is what you're giving up. And you accept those terms right off rip, but what you don't realize is in August your fans begging you for an album that you promised them. Then you can't even. And the record label keep pushing it back to October and January. And they blame you, they're not blaming the record label. They're like, you're not ready yet. You're not doing the right things as an artist. And so you get into this fight with the record label and you go back to the contract and it's like, well, they have creative control. Wow. And then how hard is it to own your own masters because then even with going and signing these things, you can request it, but are these record labels or are these labels actually giving this out? Like, no, I'm not gonna give you that or are they agreeing to it? No, it's like, I gave you some money for that. I paid for it. Yeah, like I paid for that. I gave you $200,000 for 80% of your master's. Exactly. So you can play it back, but you didn't make the money back yet. I didn't make my 200 back. So, and plus the interest on top of that, I didn't make it back yet. Even though your album came out and you're famous, I didn't make my money back. But going into it, can you? Going into it just don't sign because you're gonna give up. You know, it's like leasing the car off the light. It's like, you don't own it all. It's yours, you drive it, you pay the thing. But can you say to them, I want 100% of my master's when it's done? And they can tell you no. Yeah, I mean, you can... Majority of them gonna say no. Yeah, the majority of them gonna say no because that's the money. You know what I'm saying? You wanna eat off the records for a lifetime, not just two years when you assigned them, and you're trying to eat off this hit record 60 years from now. So record labels are into that business. They not really into the... Let me ask you this and let's get back to the music. Kool-Aid, man. Kool-Aid. How did you come up with that? What was that? How did you figure this out? How did you bring Erika Banks into it? Give me the spiel. Don't hold back. So Erika been my friend for probably like three years. I had known her before. Any of the newest stuff going on. We had a friendship. We met through a mutual friend, Roscoe Dash. So I was recording music and we relinked here in Atlanta about like November. You know what I'm saying? And when she was with me, I'm just, she's like, where your music at? Like, what you doing? So I'm playing my song. She's like, yo, that's hard. But I got like 30 songs at the time. Yeah. But as I'm riding with her, my other friends, every time I'm playing these 30 songs, it's like, Kool-Aid, Kool-Aid, Kool-Aid, you need to put this out. You need to put this out. So I'm just like, all right, well, whatever. Yeah. Still just kind of sleep on it. And then she hit me one day, like bro, if you don't shoot this video, like ASAP, matter of fact, come to Houston, shoot the, matter of fact, I'm gonna direct the video. Wow. Matter of fact, I'm gonna be hitting the video. That's dope. Like she just kind of took it like that. Wow. That show that she had so much confidence in that song. Yeah. We always had a musical friend. We met on some music, on a musical thing. So I was always like, nah, I don't like that. That's hard. And she was always just, her personality is like that. Like turn that off. That's whack. And you treasure her opinion. Yeah. You don't get that opinion from people now in the world. It's always like, oh, you great. That's hard. Yeah. They don't tell you the truth. Yeah. So it was just like- Those are the, yes, man. That's just- Exactly. Exactly. That's kind of the stance that we initially took as far as that. Like I said, thinking of Kool-Aid, I was just like money mixed up. Like... Kool-Aid. Kool-Aid. That's dope. You know what I'm saying? It was kind of that thing. So you know, I like to put people on the spot. Oh, here we go. Yeah. Can you sing for me? Right now? Right now. She hard on people, bro. Any people. What you want to hear? Everybody come on that spot. She going to make them, give them a little bit. Don't give them more. Especially if you R&B. Okay, so I got to sing an R&B song. Mm-hmm. I'm R&B. Hold on. Just give me a second. Let me go through my repertoire. Do you need to give you a beat? No, no, no. I got you. As soon as you walk in the room, I said, there goes my baby. Your friends looked at me crazy cause you got a dude. I said, fuck that attitude. But I understand we playin' it cool. Deja vu. Yeah, you win. I like that. Yeah, y'all better stop playin', man. That's K Major, y'all. Get it together, man. We in Atlanta, I'm approved. Say it, man. You dope, bro. Love it, man. I already know. You ain't think I don't do it, it was like. It's something that R&B does for me cause anytime I hear good voice, I just can't help but smiling. Sometimes if you're really good, I'll get the goosebumps and the chills. Yeah, I didn't church you out. Yeah, I didn't do it. That was dope. I didn't get that far. But I smile, yeah. Like I told you before, that's so much needed, bro. We need you, bro. I already know that. You know what I'm sayin'? I told you like 4.30 this morning, I'm like, yeah, I like this guy. I just love the music, man. And I go searchin', you know. And I just start lookin', and I'm like, man, and he been workin' a long time, man. And I thank God, you know, that he gave you the strength to keep goin'. You know what I'm sayin'? It's hard, it's hard, yeah. A lot of people would give up, turn back. You know, they go so far, and then they just say like, you know what I managed, this ain't for me, but you a gifted young man. Thank you. And you blessin' us, man. And I thank God for you. Thank you. So let me ask you, going back in your life, younger, just started music, till now, what is something that you've been through that was a stumbling block in your career that really baffled you, that you could tell somebody and say, you know what, this is how you can fix that problem. You know what I mean? Yeah, I signed a record, management contract slash record deal, and I was 15 to a management team in Atlanta. I was from Cardisville, workin' at McDonald's. They came through the drive-through. I was like, yo, who is that? Because they had a, it was an artist that they had that was famous at the time. And I signed to the management, I was 15. I got that energy, I wanna get it going. What we doin'? I recorded for maybe a year and a half, comin' to sessions, figurein' out how to get to Atlanta, then learnin' how to drive, and drivein' to Atlanta stand, just breakin' all the rules into household, like comin' home three in the morning. And it got to a point we never did anything. So it was only two months until the deal ran out, but I had, I just had one of those awakening moments where I knew I had to do what I needed to do then. Like, I needed to move now. My parents didn't understand, they were like, we'll just wait these two, three months, and boom, I was like, no, I gotta get away from these people now. When I went to the people to get out the deal, they wouldn't let me out the deal. And they, I had to change my name. I had to give up 370 songs. They made me type the songs out that summer. They made me find all the sessions around the country that I recorded at, and really like, give up my whole summer and half my school year to get this stuff together just to send to them, just to get out the deal. And at that point, my parents asked me, they all, it was like, why would you do that? Like, why would you give up all your music? And I remember telling them like, you always can do new music. Like, as long as you yourself, and at whatever point you get the strength to do it, just do it then. And by doing that, it's kept me going my whole career, because I never really got attached to anything as far as items. That's dope, because it makes you stronger. Exactly. That's what I was able to be. I didn't know that I was, I wasn't a songwriter coming to the game. I had no aspirations to write songs. That's a lot of 300 and something songs? Yeah, I had no practice. Exactly. So it was kind of like, okay, I can make money off giving away songs? Yeah. You said it became a good thing later on in my career and became one of the biggest things. But you could have waited, so if you had waited two months, you wouldn't have to have done any of that. Well, I didn't know what that two months was gonna lead to, because the deal, of course, had options. So after those two months, they had the option to renew the deal or whatever. So it was just me and my lawyer team, my lawyer team, yeah, we noticed something in the contract at that time. And it was like, now. It's a conflict of interest we need to go now. If we wait, then we showing that we... So at 15, when that opportunity came up for you to sign, and of course you had to go back to your parents and get them to approve it? Yeah. So how was they feeling with all of that? They just seen in my heart, in my eyes that I was serious. They knew how serious I was as a kid. When I told them that I didn't care about those songs, they was like, okay. Yeah, you gonna go get a student? Are you an only child? No, I'm the youngest of three. So you're the baby boy. Oh, that's something that's you, the baby boy. You a mama's boy. Yeah, I am. Tell what you got in your head. Yeah, for sure. So is it UTO? UTO. What is that? Oh, uh-oh. I'm like, uh-oh. Yeah, I did it like that, because it was just easy to do. It's like, I'm trying to figure it out. Like, what is it? He sent it to me. Yeah, I don't know how to spell it. So when I was coming up with the title, I was like, UT, oh. Oh, oh, UT, oh, oh. That's the title of the song. That's the dope. I love that music, man. I knew it was not out yet. For sure. So that's the next project. What's going on? Tell us a little bit about what's coming. That's my next single. That's my newest single. It's my campaign. It's supposed to kick off August 2nd. It's gonna be the first single that I pushed at this level. You know what I'm saying? I've been putting a lot of singles out over the years in projects, mixtapes, albums, but I've also been a songwriter and producer. So it would happen like, I would drop a song in January and from February to August, I would be with Jacquees. Wow. So my fans that I was growing through releasing music was like, well, I guess we'll just support them as a producer and songwriter. It's a lot, no consistency, you know what I'm saying, as an artist. You have to be consistent. But the good thing is you send demand. I've always had my hands in so much that I felt like that was my consistency. That's right. I was like, I'm doing this, I'm doing that. And then I was like, wait, I got to take this and drive, see the production and songwriting came with the money. So it was easier to focus on that when you get a phone call in 20,000 a beat or 15,000. You're like, oh yeah, I can record anytime. So now I'm in a space where I'm like, it ain't about the money no more. It ain't about the accolades or none of that. I didn't did that. I'm just like me. I want to produce a test because in my mind it's a test. Okay. What is out of all the songs that you've ever done? Which one would you say is your favorite? The one I just sung for you. Tell Nobody. It's called Test. When was that done? It was in 2016, 17. I like that. So you passed the test. It's the only song that I have and I didn't write. Wow. Yeah, I didn't write that song. And that's the one that you love. I love it. Wow. He wrote it. It's a Canadian writer. I don't even know the writer. The producer name was Arthur MacArthur. He sent me to be. He had a writer on it already. Wow. He was like, it's for you. That's dope. I said, because of the test, because everybody else that comes in and when we always ask what's the favorite song that you've ever done, everything you've done, it's always the newest one. Yeah, yeah. Because they don't ever like. Yeah, we get that a lot. You're always writing, oh, I love that. I love that. The newest song is always the hardest one. So for the main fact that you said, right, for the main fact that you said one from 2016, you baffled me, I'm like. Okay. 2016. It was just a well-written song. Top three artists of all times, man. Top three. Top three artists. That's what we do on here. Michael Jackson. Number one. He's Michael Jackson. Michael Jackson. Number two. Number two. Any genre. Any genre. Female, female. For sure. Lionel Richie is number two. I don't mean to have my boy right there. This is the first Lionel Richie. Number three would probably be Tina Turner. Tina Turner. That's dope, man. I like Tina Turner. I just like the song writing in the rock. Yeah, yeah, yeah. R&B crossover feel, I like that. That energy. In the performance. When I see Beyonce, I always see Tina Turner. So it's like Tina Turner. That's dope, man. But Tina Turner to me had so much more energy. Exactly. You know, because she. Don't you never go there. Don't you know Beyonce? I mean, that was just. Beyonce does a good job. Stop playing, man. Stop playing. She is an amazing performer. It's pull up time, man. She's amazing performer. I don't want to be high after me, so. But let me tell you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But let me tell you. Tina Turner can put on a whole show without, I mean, with all that energy without, anybody in the background without anything. All your eyes are just straight on her. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All them dance moves and she be moving fast. Like she's a 20 year old woman. Yeah. See, I never got to see Tina Turner live, so. No, I didn't either. But I can tell you right now. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, Beyonce live is crazy. Beautiful. Oh my God. Yeah. It ain't nothing like her when she come out and she got the Texas jacket on. Texas. He's so Texas. He's so Texas. He is so Texas. Say, check it, man. I'm in ATL now, though. Listen, man. It's your big favor, man. Tell us where we can find you, man. We're looking for you, man. On all social media, at K-Major Music, K-M-A-J-O-R Music. Man, hey, man. We love you, brother. Appreciate that. When we get you, we, hey, man. You and us up. Anytime. When you in Dallas, say, look, man, I'm gonna pull up. I'm pulling up. Yeah, and if I'm out here, because my brother's out here. Yeah, I'm gonna hold you to it. Yeah, yeah. But I don't know nobody in Dallas like that, but Erica. Man, man, I'm gonna say, you come up there and why now would have, man. We gonna get down, bro. I was sure. You gonna be like, dang, man. No, I was, man, it's dope, man. This is a studio. I didn't go to Dallas. Wait, I ate at this brunch spot downtown. What is it called? I don't know. It's like New Orleans style. It's so, you know, they was just down there. You park on the little side, and you walk right in. Like, it's like. That, like, sounds like where y'all was at downtown. That's kind of all of downtown. It's right there downtown. I be, I ain't gonna lie. I love Atlanta. I love Dallas. I be always comparing to downtowns when I go to Chicago. Wherever I'm at, New York. We all got a lot. You know what I mean? It's too much going on. Yeah, it's too much going on. Too much down in Chesapeake. Uptown, Midtown, it's too much going on, man. But I definitely, man, love coming down here, seeing my people. And if you wanna do a press run in Dallas, just let us know. Yeah, definitely, yeah. You hook you up with all the right people. Yeah, we gotta everybody. Definitely wanna do that ASAP. Anytime you come, we be like, I'm gonna have you like, I just had a shout down. PJF shout out to PJF. He all was looking up. He be like, man, you know, when he come, I'm trying to link you with different things, man, going on in the city so that people can know you in our area. Please do, yeah, let's just move around. I got you now. Network here. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And the people that's gonna put you on different platform to make it to where it's a press run. That's what you do. But you know what I look at? It's a blessing and it's only God, whenever you can, cause we always prayed that on this platform, God would bring people who have like spirit. Yeah, I'm sure. You know, no batsmen, no intention, any of that. And that's all we've been getting cause we've only started this in January. Oh wow. Yeah. And we build up over 4,000 subscribers on YouTube. We work in there. We just get started. The people that's been on our show, we have people who've been in the business for two, three, four years and said we've not been able to get those people on our show. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I love it for sure. You know what I mean? So I would always give God the glory to say that he has been blessing us in so many different ways. That is great. He blessed us when my boy came major. I'm glad to be here. I'm glad to be here. He's some of the best mics they've ever seen. And the headphones good. And the cameras, everything is perfect. Yeah, man. Thank you for coming on the show, brother. Like I said, we love you, man. And it's been another great segment of Boss Talk 101. Boss Talk 1.