 What's up everybody and welcome to another summer edition of the Falcons final whistle podcast. I'm Scott Bayer doing this remotely Via technology with my partner in crime Tori McClaney. What's up? How are you? I'm good. It's nice to see you in your creepy basement Yeah, there were some internet troubles and places with better lighting So now it has a real like Adams family vibe right now Which I tried to prevent by opening windows and turning on lights But still haven't quite got there yet Nonetheless We're here talking to you in the middle of the deadest of all dead periods in the NFL calendar Still finding plenty of topics about what is I'm gonna call an intriguing falcons team with plenty of marks Last year we did our last year. Wow times were here last week We discussed some lingering questions between the offices and program and training camp now We're gonna zero in on a topic that we planned on getting to last week didn't really have the time to address and that is Training camp battles and which ones we like and kind of setting the stage For what's gonna happen at the end of July the reason why we're gonna kind of jump ahead and really focus on training camp It's Tori and I are going on summer vacation Very exciting me and the fam we're going down to the White Sand beaches of the Florida Panhandle very exciting and Tori McElaney going to Jamaica Yeah, I can't wait to do all the Jamaican things my College friend she is from Jamaica So I'm actually going and doing like real Jamaican stuff like not just like going to resort I am doing that, but I'm also going to like live with her grandmother for like two days So I'm buried hot it see that's awesome because you do need a little bit of time Relaxing on the beach with people just handing you drinks with umbrellas in them But then you also need to like see the actual culture as well sounds like a perfect little combination Yeah, we're gonna go find some white sand beaches as well Let the kids run around and water that's clear which for someone who's used to the Having my oceans on the left The water in the Pacific not quite so clear, but nonetheless We're gonna do all that and then we're gonna come back and really start the Falcons final was a podcast every week until Kingdom come The week before training camp with a good preview and an announcement I'm not gonna give anything off, but we are this this duo is turning into a trio We have a new Falcons features writer very excited to introduce the only clue I will give is introduce him To you guys you're gonna love him. He's gonna be on podcast coming up We're very excited to have him and stay tuned for that announcement, which will come in the coming weeks But let's get to the business at hand miss McElaney and that is training camp battles We have coming up. There are a lot of them Which is what happens when you have a roster in Transition when you are trying to build talent as you've pointed out several times during this offseason With a multi-year strategy, this was not a one drafted for agency period and fix This is a longer term play So you add people then you add guys on prove it deals to get right with the cap and what that Strategy creates is a lot of question marks at certain positions. That's not a bad thing And I think it's gonna push the level of competitiveness It's gonna make training camp in my opinion kind of fun because we're gonna see a lot of guys We're really getting after it as Arthur Smith tries to establish a tone of if you want it go earn it So we're gonna get into all those types of things. We're gonna hit the offensive line Obviously, maybe the linebacker core the edge rusher not everything is about who starts right and then of course as we do And we'll continue to do we're gonna talk some quarterbacks But nonetheless, Tori, what do you think? What's your number one? A position battle or area where you're excited to see these guys really get after it this summer Okay, so it's funny that you asked me this because I recently went on 11 alive with Maria Martin Who's one of my fellow ladies in sports within the Atlanta area and she asked me the same question And I said on TV I go with my whole being said and I quote the offensive line and she laughed about that When the cameras cut she laughed about that for a while She's like I was not expecting you to say the offensive line And I was like honestly I wasn't either either and then you asked me and it was the only answer that I really truly felt like compelled to say because I think a lot of people are like, oh quarterbacks and edge rushers and Linebackers, but for me, I kind of already feel like I have a good idea of who I would want where at those positions With the offensive line There's a lot that I still feel like I want to see with that group and a lot of people who I think will be coming and Being a part of this organization and this roster prior to the start of training camp Which is something that we've talked about before and so I really don't think we have a collective Good look at what this Offensive line could one look like and be once we do get into kind of the competition the nitty gritty of it I think we haven't seen that yet So I say all of that to say that the offensive line I know people are like why in the world would you pick the offensive line as like one of your biggest like position battles? But I really truly believe that I really truly believe the outside of like Chris Lindstrom and Jake Matthews That the competition that we're gonna see within the scope of this offensive line is going to be pretty intense and and I think that Honestly, you know we I could be saying all of this and we could get to the very first week of the season and the same five Offensive line that we saw last year could be the same offensive line that we see in week one of this season That could absolutely happen But I want to see the process of getting to that point if that's what it if that's what happens So that's my spiel people can agree or disagree as they see fit But that's where I'll be kind of I think hanging my hat this Training camp is just watching the offensive one. Yeah, and I'm with you 100% and I think that that to Kind of dovetail off of what you were talking about or to continue some of your points is that it brings up two important matters number one We were robbed of offensive line competition last year because of injuries to Matt Gino who never was a part of the the Falcons product last year and the fact that Josh Andrews got hurt early which moved Jalen Matthews back and forth. So we never saw competition at left guard Which I think they sorely needed we never saw competition at right tackle because eventually Caleb McGarry Just needed to take the job and they were so desperate for depth at the position They were claiming Colby gossiped off waivers and they were adding Jason Spriggs late And they were doing a lot of things just to get the nine guys you needed on the roster when he wanted the competition At all of the positions that we're talking about and didn't get it And I don't think that that created a lack of motivation and the guys who eventually took those starting jobs It just left a less than desirable situation Arthur Smith has alluded to it a couple different times that he has long-term visions and long-term development plans for For young players like he did with Richie Grant's Jalen Mayfield got robbed of that long-term development plan and got thrust into it So I think this is nothing but a positive I think the front office did a good job adding veteran talents with starting experience You look at a guy like Jermaine if Eddie and you think that guy did not come here to be a backup No, right. He's a former first-round pick who wants to kickstart re-energize his career He wants to re-establish himself as a starter. He's gonna push at right tackle. He might push at left guard I think that we're gonna see competition at center because Drew Dahlman is a year above it and as much as we talk about offensive line and maybe people think Can we just fast-forward to the next chapter of this podcast, please and talk about quarterbacks This is why you can't right yeah, but the offensive line is not good If we don't have the type of competition up front the running game will suffer the passing game will suffer Marriota or Ritter or whoever wins that position battle will be scrambling for their lives and therefore less effective So without us paying attention to these position battles without them pushing to be better Then you've got nothing else, right? And I think that some people understand that But I think they really need to follow it. It seems weird. Drew Dahlman versus Matt Hennessy if Eddie versus Caleb McGarry Jalen Mayfield versus a number of different people allows Wilkinson Whoever these names you'll get to know because we're going to write about them a ton These position battles are important to Torrey's point and then end of my rant is that there's a there's a definite possibility That we could run it back with the 2021 group, right? But at least I think fans and the coaching staff will feel better that unlike last year where injuries messed everything up These guys are going to have to earn that spot. It's not like well, I guess we've got to go with this guy It's this guy went out there and proved it And I think that that's going to be key. So as we look through it and we look at, you know, offensive line We're talking about three starting spots that are uncertain as we move through the rest of these position group battles Maybe it's less about starting Players and more about how the rotation is going to work out. So let's move to a sexier position on the other side of the ball Uh, I'm sure the guys who man this position will love me calling it sexy But nonetheless, we're looking at the edge rushers here, right? They basically hit a hard reset outside of adai ogendage. A lot of Older veterans are out. A lot of younger players are in Including two rookies arnold ebukaty de angelo malone lorenzo carter How do you see this one shuffling out? I think we have an idea more of an idea than we do with the offensive line But I still think it's going to be interesting to see how this rotation plays out Who's going to play a lot who's going to be an accent piece. There's a lot that we still don't know here Yeah, there is and I think this is a position that is going to Change as the season goes on as guys like arnold ebukaty Anti-angelo malone get more live reps under their belt I think you could and should See them evolve in their first year and probably get more playing time as the year goes on nothing against lorenzo carter and Aude ogendage, they're going to play a significant role in this defense as well. I'm not saying that. I'm just saying that You're exactly right when you say, you know starters don't necessarily Matter in my opinion and I say that on the offensive side too. Like I know there was one time last season where I don't know somebody was starting it was like kyle pits was not starting He didn't come out there for the very first play of a game But it's because uh the package didn't call for kyle pitch for that specific play And then he ran out there in the second play. So I I just hope I just want people to get it through their heads that like starting Doesn't necessarily mean anything anymore. Um, maybe it did at one point or another but not anymore. Um, look at us both going on soapbox rants Within the first five minutes of this podcast, but In terms of the edge, I think it's what's really interesting and something that I'm gonna Very much be watching early on is the role of aude ogendage. I think lorenzo carter is you go You go out and you get lorenzo carter for a reason. He comes to atlanta for a reason I I would feel fairly confident that lorenzo carter is going to be the quote-unquote guy in the room um But aude ogendage is a very interesting piece of this room and a guy who should be Fighting for a starting spot. He's in a second year in the league granted. He was a lower round draft pick last year But when I was talking to ted monashino, who's the outside linebackers coach for the falcons At one point last year. We're talking about a couple months into the season last year He made the comment that has stuck with me this entire time and he said that they view Aude ogendage as the bell cow of the room and he made the comment He was like there is going to be a lot of fluctuation people coming in and out of the building But you know that aude ogendage. He's on his rookie deal. He's gonna be here for a while so If they were viewing him When they drafted him as the quote-unquote bell cow of the room in the future How quickly can you get him to that future? Is this the year that we see that happen for aude ogendage? That's what i'm Just as curious about Even when talking about lorenzo carter and when you're talking about dangelo malone and arnold ebichetti I think aude ogendage may be caught up in the shuffle of talking about these guys And he's somebody who I think is going to be very very important to this position group as he grows Yeah, it's it's he's the wild card because I think if you look at The rlads depth chart or not like depth charts matter now or the ajc depth chart which arthur smith brings up a lot and Because he likes to dig on d led which is funny to everyone When you look at depth charts now you see arnold ebichetti already in the starting lineup And aude's got to look at that and be like i'm in my year two. I'm not gonna just Accept that right. I think the expectations. I just wrote a bare male Response to somebody saying I think that arnold ebichetti could be the defensive rookie of the year And I just want to like slam on the brakes I think that It's very possible that he's um A significant player that he plays significant snaps. He has all the talent. We don't know, right? Yeah, don't know what he's going to be and I think you really fall into trouble when you Have to rely even on second round picks when you have to just assume Plop them in plug-and-play right this this isn't especially if you look at Edge rushers that you would think that about there were three guys taking it in the top six Yeah, put those expectations on kvon tibido or trevon walker um I'm blanking on the third guy, but um, nonetheless, you know that for the guy who's drafted number 38 a guy with relative inexperience In the game I think that we need to see something at least with pads on before we start throwing expectations on this guy Or even assuming that he's going to be a major player I think it's going to be interesting to watch this group overall, right? You you think de angelo Malone could be maybe like a sub package specialist or what have you we don't have an idea of how this group is going to come together We just know that they're all very young even Lorenzo carter's what 26 Something like that. So you have a group and you wonder can Can uh ted monochino Bring this group together And build a young foundation in this room that can work together for Three or four three or four years And if they have to do better than 18 sacks They they just do and dean peas said it extraordinarily well Sometimes you just need a guy who can win a one-on-one a one-on-one match up without a scheme without Scheme help and just go get it are these guys The personnel to do it that I think is going to be fascinating But so let's say that we pencil in Lorenzo as a three down player On one side, how could it shake out? Do you think adai could take control of it? Do you think it could be like a buy committee thing with uh, you know guys kind of rotating in and out? I don't I'm not sure how how that could work out. Are you looking at there's one position? There's carter and then there's one position battle at like at maybe the strong or the weak side Or are you looking at both being open? I kind of look at I think Lorenzo is a lock in my opinion I think because of his experience Especially early in the season. I don't see how You don't have him on the field for majority of the time. However, I will say this too I think it also depends like if we're saying Lorenzo is a lock. Who's on the other side? I think it greatly depends on What dean peas is calling one and what the personnel on the other side is as well I think that they're there is something that could be said about the way that adai could specialize in one thing and uh Arnold ebuketti could specialize in another But the thing about that is is like dean peas loves to do different things And he doesn't want an offense to be able to pick up on Got on what they're doing and what they're planning And so I honestly even saying that I think that's not even remotely what they would try and do And so because you don't want to just run let's say Arnold ebuketti out there on a run play and be like, oh Well, there you go. We they know we're running the ball blah blah blah But I I will say that I do think There is an opportunity for that other side to be A bit more fluid according to what the play call is and what they need in the in specific moments Yeah, I I look at this group and I think one they have to get Dean peas needs like the basics last year. They couldn't contain mobile quarterbacks They weren't setting the edge. Well, there were a lot of basic problems. They got the falcons in trouble They need the basics done. That's why I know it drove everybody crazy. That's why steven means played so much Let's be you know, steven means is a fantastic human and at that point in his career was a bit unspectacular But was always in the right place at the right time, right? At some points if you're talking about just the base level requirements, you have to do that before you can do anything else So finding guys who can do that earning trust and credibility over the course of All these joint practices right with the jets and the jags and these pre-season games We're going to see these guys are going to have an opportunity to prove they can do the basics And then can they do the spectacular on top of it? So how all that pans out? I really think if i'm picking a quote-unquote like breakout a possible breakout player on this defense I look at lorenzo carter and I just like I see his frame and I see his athleticism you covered him at Right. I just see so much potential there and I just think This could be an eight or nine sat guy in this skin. You know, if if he can really get it done We spent a lot of time on the address just moving on to Another thing that could be more of a rotational thing or maybe we're going to see A straight up three down players at the inside linebacker spot talk a lot about the outside linebackers inside linebackers We have a lot of options, right train is super athletic and Fast as a jackrabbit really and you've got I don't know where that came from Cheetah I could have gone with cheetah. Maybe anything So many so many different like real animals, right? Yeah, no, I'm I mean at least I didn't say jackalope. Uh, but that is true But nonetheless, um, you got troy anderson there roshan evans former first-round pick has experienced nick quikowski Um, went a little bit from the raiders has starting experience good backup um Michael walker you you talked to him this offseason. He is coming to play, right? I mean yeah, and that doesn't even count deon jones. It sounds like michael walker is looking at this like I don't care who they brought in i'm gonna go take one of those spots Yeah, no, that's exactly how he's viewing it and I talked to him It kind of like what you're saying. I talked to him After practice One of the mini camp practices don't know which one it was could have been any they all run together Um, but I asked him like do you feel like this year could be different for you because Michael and I had talked last year about how the year didn't go the way that he wanted to and and I think he didn't have the playing time that he wanted to have and so now transforming that to this year and knowing That there is an opportunity in front of you that hasn't been there the last two years Michael walker is ready to run through a brick wall in order to get one of those starting spots I know we just talked about the starting rotating starting is not all that and whatever Michael walker wants one of those spots and he is working like he Needs it and and I think he does at this point in his career He is just eating at the opportunity to get more opportunities in this defense And and I think that you saw he has the playmaker ability I mean you you saw moments last year where he was making plays that you're like I want more of that and so For michael walker he we talked about adai ogendeji kind of being the the question mark of the the edge rushers Michael walker and his continued development is also a question mark. Can he be The guy he he used himself as the guy. Can he be the guy in that room? That's where I think his trajectory is heading Now we need to see what it actually looks like in that role I don't want to rehash what we talked about last time because we talked about deon jones quite a bit Yeah, and um, I think people appreciated the conversation. We saw that in the youtube comments Thank you guys for all the positivity there. I don't think we had a single dislike last week It's always a win But we talked a lot about deon jones and how he fits in there and if he fits in there if he's going to be moved, right? We don't need to rehash all that but how let's say he's here and healthy He's still deon jones, right? Right it becomes less of a position battle if he's there because you assume he's going to take one of those spots And then it puts a lot of pressure on the other one then you have almost too many qualified candidates At the same time if you can go out and make a move And move on from deon and get all these things we talked about last week something that If you can get something take it at this point, right? Just take it you've built up this depth chart and enough But he's the he's the big question mark over the next couple weeks about yeah What they're going to do with him and how he fits I do think that they're well situated for it if he's there Michael walker is going to have a tough road to getting in the starting lineup because you look at rachan evans And he is like a mic linebacker, right? Yep with a capital m i ke just like foyer A luah kin was last year. I missed that guy, right? I know you're such a good dude He's on the upward like a trajectory and it makes sense. Go get the bag, dude And he did that but yeah, I think not having his personality I think having rachan evans there who is a big personality Who knows his stuff who can be a tone setter you got to have that because I think losing foyer Created a void that you have to fill somehow. Don't you think yeah, yeah From foyer as well as anybody, right? Yeah, you're such a good player From the thing about foyer was it wasn't just like we saw the plays and everything it was how he controlled the defense from a vocal standpoint and because d&p's talked a lot about foyer being The quote-unquote quarterback of the defense you needed someone that void in and of itself is very very difficult to fix Or to find a replacement for because that you have to trust someone To get everybody lined up where they need to go to make the calls to To be vocal with the secondary and with the guys up front That part of the game is very important and it's very hard to replicate within somebody So when foyer goes to the jags and like you said like makes his money as he should Finding that replacement was so important and rachan evans is I think the best you could have hoped for 100 talking to rachan and Knowing his history and knowing the type of player and the type of guy he is He has that ability to be vocal within the defense and to and to do the things right That was another thing that I think d&p's talked about foyer a lot is like you told him one thing and he did it And there was if he made one mistake. He never made that mistake again Rachan evans, I think is kind of like that in in a lot of ways And so I think that part of it that part of the game almost the mental side just as much as the physical side was so important when you talk about Having to replace foyer with rachan evans Yeah, and his history with d&p's definitely helps. He has so much respect for the coordinator He understands the the scheme and how and the schematics and how dean likes to run it All those things are key and we've talked a lot about the front seven I think because if the front seven can figure it out You look at the secondary and this isn't position battle talk necessarily, but you look at and you think Okay, you got az trail and casey hayward still in his prime and i see how oliver looked really good And you think okay if the front seven can figure it out the back end seems More secure right that maybe this defense can exceed expectations And I think it's also a bonus that with all this talk that in no way are Are the falcons having to shove troy anderson into a thousand snap season Right that that's not the type of pressure for a guy from From a smaller school in montana state who's played a lot of different positions Maybe he goes out there and earns it and that's a bonus But at no point have we said they're counting on this guy to do x which is sort of what you're looking at Drake london you're probably counting on him to play and have four figures in his receiving total Arnold avocati. We're talking about some people thinking he's a three down guy Maybe he doesn't have to be but we're talking about the expectations dropping for a guy who's a second round pick I think that's a bonus for troy anderson I think the depth that linebacker and the fact that Some guys are gonna have to go earn some rolls. I think is a good thing. Can they figure out the front seven? That's gonna be key. Can they figure out the quarterback spot now? We're here Which means you had to listen to most of the podcast to get here talk about teases and keeping people glued Nonetheless desmond raider marcus mariota This is as much as I have said and I think you agree that It's marcus mariota seems like the heavy and odds-on favorite to start the season as qb1 It doesn't change the fact that this remains an open competition I think you wrote it back in march that Marcus mariota was guaranteed literally nothing arthur smith didn't say he's our starter They go out and they draft desmond ridder and desmond ridder gets complimented on his mental acumen Which is the important part of the off season It's it's gonna be a battle I think and desmond ridder is gonna get a lot of opportunities this pre pre season to show what he has The guy I think there was a report that he was telling teams and pre draft interviews how he would unseat a veteran Well, here we go. This is the opportunity. They have two mobile quarterbacks They have a hungry young kid. They have a guy trying to reestablish himself I think the competition is going to get the best out of both guys. How are you looking at these quarterbacks? Heading into the training camp period. Yeah, I just think For desmond at this point in his career For marcus at this point in the in his career The fact that the other guy in the room Is desmond and marcus. I think is very good for desmond and marcus for all of the reasons that you just said Desmond ridder we have talked to on a number of occasions He wants to be a franchise quarterback He wants that he he very much believes that he can be that we saw the emotion of that That draft call with terry font note when desmond ridder was like man, they For lack of a better word messed up That wasn't what he's keeping us pg 13, you know, I really want to get the expletive note on the side of the itunes For our podcast, but I'll I'll save that for another time. Um, Maybe I'll go on another rant someday But not today with desmond ridder saying that I think that that was very very The emotion of which you felt in that moment and then also in the moment since that we've talked to him This is something he wants. This is something that he very much feels like he Is made for So because of that you have someone who feels this way going up against someone who wants to resurrect his career and in marcus mariota that is So good for both of them to push both of them And I think that that part of it is so interesting when you're talking about this competition Because for so long we haven't had that in atlanta Matt ryan has been matt ryan and he was a lot since he got here That is not the case right now even though I feel pretty confident that marcus mariota is going to be run out there week one How much are we gonna see desmond ridder? How much is he pushing marcus? How quickly can desmond get to that level all of these questions are questions that we are going to be asking for an entire year And that's something that i'm very excited about and I do think that this is a really good situation for both marcus and desmond At at the at this point in their respective careers And I bring this up and this is a tough question to ask But chase paper from rochester newt new york brought it up in the mail bag I I think it's a great point in that he said I feel like we know what we have and by we i'm talking as chase now. Hey chase you're out there That that he says the falcons know that everybody knows what you're going to get in marcus mariota Because he doesn't have a small sample size of starts 64 starts in 70 plus games You have seen him for a long time That maybe his ceiling is what he has shown now. I defended I argued back on that premise But we've seen a lot of of him in his nfl career that if we sort of know the rough That we have a good gauge of what he is and can be Shouldn't the falcons think bigger picture and try to give to so you have a true understanding or a better understanding of what desmond ridder Is and what maybe his ceiling is and what his development arc is Heading into I I know we're talking about position kept battles leading into training camp and i'm jumping right down a rabbit hole here But don't you need to know what you have before you go into 2023 when you have like a bill It's not just brice and cj. There's a lot of good feedbacks out there So you have this thing right arthur smith. I think is going to look short term Who's going to give me the best chance to beat the saints in week one? Yep, full stop right. Yep, but when do you let the other part of it come into play? Right, that's the thing that I wonder and I bring up a very small Tangential digression here. It's too many words, but you know, I'm going off topic for one more second in 2014 I covered the raiders matt shop someone that falcons know well was named the starter in like march and then derrick car Came in and swooped the starting job away that he's held for a billion years now at the last possible second and they realized We know what we have in shop. It's this i'm pointing to a relatively low ceiling and then derrick car has potential We're going to go with derrick car. We're going to stink but we're going to do it, right? He's second round pick they they went with car over a more established commodity that may have gotten them more wins They thought a little big picture. When do you think big picture? Does any of that make any sense or have I talked too long that my point is now lost? No, all of that all of that makes sense. And I think it's the question on a lot of people's minds I think it's a question that this coaching staff in this front office are weighing too When do you start thinking about that if you know, and I think It's going to be very interesting because I do think that at some point we will see desmond ridder I'm not saying that we're never going to see desmond ridder. I do think we will see him I think my thing is like do we believe that desmond ridder is the future of this organization? And to that I cannot answer one way or the other This is not some this is not somebody who was a top 10 draft pick. This is someone who is a 74th overall pick Our crazier things have happened and and people a lot lower on the the draft Boards have gone on to be great quarterbacks. That's not what I'm saying at all I'm not saying that desmond ridder can't or won't be a great quarterback in this league but to your point When do you find out If he has that capability Do you believe that he does now if you do then do you run him out there in week four? Like I think that's all that these are all the questions that We will be able to get to Later and down the road. It's a question that this coaching staff is currently You know, maybe they're on a white sandy beach right now but They are currently thinking about these questions and how much do you weigh Short term versus the long term goal and that's very very interesting. I think The age old saying or whatever it is is that coaches Think in the short term general managers think in the long term What does that mean? How does that work? How does terry font know and what he thinks this organization can be Coincide with what arthur smith needs them to be in 2022? Yeah, it's it's going to be a fun topic. I think probably for a long time But getting back to the to the you know, I exploded the question and expanded it getting back to that I I do think that you probably that arthur smith will think how can I beat the saints, right? And I think that that's the important question in deciding who gets that opportunity I also push back a little bit and say look marcus mariota Was he was a dynamic college player? I know there's a lots of dynamic college players who don't go on to be excellent pros But he was drafted number two overall the titans obviously saw something This is a guy that's won a playoff game. It's a guy that's gone That's that's produced winning records Things got a little askew on him and he got a little banged up and I think that we're going to see the best of marcus mariota What the best of marcus mariota is where that ceiling is? I think we're going to find out Yeah, and he's either going to thrive and exceed it or he's going to be He was who we thought he was right, but these are the questions that are going to be interesting as we move through camp Um, and as we see him perform these joint practices are going to be important I bet we see both guys in the preseason games and we see them continue on and how that competition heads into camp or Goes through camp and then how it extends through the course of the regular season when we see ridder if we see ridder um, I think all that stuff is going to be fascinating, so We're coming up against it here. Um, and like I said at the start Tori and I are going on a little summer vacation KIT and all that stuff And we're going to come back the week before training camp and we're going to hit it hard every single week We have plans for falcons final whistle That are like the coolest. Let's be honest We're talking about live podcasts at training camp. We're talking about player guests We're talking about mini series ones already been recorded and it's super freaking awesome starting tory mackelani on like Geats, uh, so we're going to be doing a lot of different and really cool stuff with the podcast After we after these messages after we take a little bit of a break and we'll be coming back Rejuvenated uh excited about what's to come with an extra member of the team. So Are going to be awesome guys. Thank you so much. Why don't you subscribe and rate and review and all that fun stuff and get us pumped and get us ready For falcons final whistle coming back full time in late july. Thank you guys so much for listening Tori any final thoughts because I've just been ranting forever I mean over the next two weeks to all of our listeners. Go be kind to someone Go make someone smile One day you have however many weeks until we come back I want to hear about the person that you Did something nice for spread some kindness out there be kind to your fellow neighbor And maybe do what we're doing get away from football for a little bit. Yeah, rejuvenated pumped and ready to go Thank you guys so much and we'll talk to you in a few weeks