 We were working and no one was watching, but hopefully you guys were all working. See it, right? You were working? Yes, very hard. Yes? She told me about today. She told me it was your fault. Oh, my fault. No, it's good that you're here. Because this is what we do, basically. We sit here and we do our work, and what our work is, is up to you. So, a lot of people here are writers, and we live stream, so a lot of folks are writers. Some folks are actors, or architects, or any of the working projects, or songwriters working on tunes, or whatever. Painters, whatever. And we work for 20 minutes together, and I time it so that we don't go over and work too long. And then, when the thing goes, we talk about your work and your creative process. So, Watch Me Work is kind of like a trick title, because it's actually about me and the title is you, okay? So, and online, you guys are watching the live stream via power round. You can tweet me your questions, and I'll answer them. This is the moment when you come up. She's wearing her leather, or her pleather, like vegan, lemon, suede, 70s jacket. Hi, everyone. I'm Annie, and we're super excited to be back. She looks like a newscaster. Oh, my God. This is the worst. The worst? Oh, that's the worst thing that's ever happened to you? This is the worst. That's just great. Do you like? Yeah, I do. You can borrow it whenever you want. This is more important things. My name is Annie, and we're super glad to be back up and running. And for those of you not with us here, if you have a question, you can send them to our Twitter handle as WatchMeWorkSLP and tag your question or comment with howl round. That's H-O-W-L-R-O-U-N-D. And that is all I have to say. Well done. Thank you very much. Okay, well done. Okay. So what we're going to do, we're going to work for 20 minutes. I'm trying to get the kickstand of my egg timer happening. I can't do it. I'm just going to lie flat like that. This used to work, and we used to watch it, but it's a prop. It's just one of those bad stuff. I'm sure we took it down to J, right? He fixed it, but it used to actually work. It was functional. Anyway, so this one is now. You guys are going to sign the time on your phone. And then we're going to talk about your work and your creative process. Okay? Yeah, I use a typewriter. Anybody who doesn't know what this is. I want one of those hoodies. I want one. Yeah, okay. 20 minutes. Ready? One, two, three. That was the, oh yeah, I forgot to, it's been so long, I forgot to write. So the most important part of this is that it's a play. Right, I forgot to say it. So it's a play. And we just did the dialogue. No, no, no, that was the action part of it. I forget. That was the action part of it, and now we're going to do the dialogue. So, yeah, so that was the action part of the action part of it. So we were all working. And then the dialogue part is going to start. It's going to start like right now. And this is the part where we take questions about your season. Your work, the gestures always help. Your creative process. And if you make it, you know, if you ask me about my work, I'll just make it about you. Like a good girlfriend. Or a good girlfriend. So does anybody have any questions? Problems? Answers? Things to inspire and excite us? Balance? I'll see how far I can go. Balance on the table? Yes. Any? What do you do when you just feel totally uninspired? Or like, or nothing? Like, or writer's block? Or like, do you, are there times where you feel the answer as to when is the answer to push through? And when is the answer to walk away and give yourself space? Do you know? That's a great question. It happens a lot. So it happens a lot. But yeah, it says, so when do you feel like when you're totally uninspired? Sir, do you want to come through? Watch me. Watch me work. We're doing watch me work. Girls? So here you go. So the man with the black is sitting there. People happy over there. See? So it's like that. So, right. So that's exactly, that was the illustration. That was it. So because both people, in that equation, like if you were a writer, both people would be you. So you'd be at the door going, ah, how did I get through this? Right? And go through. What I do, I always ask myself when I'm having a hard time with my work, which is often, I ask myself the first question I ask myself, or the question that's most important is, am I putting in the time? That's always the question. No other question is really important. Am I putting in the time? Am I sitting down daily and showing up for the work? Right? So you want to make sure you're doing that. So, so it doesn't matter, you've heard, I'm sure you've all read many writers talking about how they work when they're not inspired. You know, the fabulous Joyce Carroll, so if my soul is as thin as a playing card, and paraphrase, like I sit down and write, and sitting down and writing is the one that changes everything. So that idea, you know, when your soul is as thin as a playing card, we just don't fucking feel like it. You know, you sit down and you see what's there. And that's how we continue. That's like a sustainable practice. Because if we waited until we were inspired, I mean, what do you think? Carol. What do you think, Carol? I go to the show. You go to the show? That's good. That's good. She goes to the shows and then what do you do? I go to the bar. I go to the bar? And then what do you do? Is it like, should we take care of myself? I have always amazing ideas and then a lot of times it's hard to sit down and put them on paper. Right. Right. So you're coming back to the same, so if you're sitting down and you have no ideas, right, and you had a hard time putting them on paper, so you go to a show and then you go and hang out with friends or go to the bar or whatever. And then you come home and you have a lot of ideas and it's really hard to put them down on paper. Put them down on paper. Yeah, so you come back to kind of the same... Yeah. Well, I'm primarily an actor, so it's different for me because this is the secondary thing for me and I'm still learning. And so I don't have the self-discipline. I love that. I'm telling this to the world now. But it's very helpful, I think, because even those of us who have been doing it for a long time can learn from, you know, how do we build discipline. What is it? I mean, so you're an actor, so you learn life, right? I'm guessing, right? So there's a discipline needed for line learning, right? Yes. Okay. You have to maybe sit down or stand up and spend time with it somehow, right? Okay. And you have little tricks and devices like... Record myself, do household tasks while learning the lines, so it just becomes like... Right, right, right. So what we find out in any... That's what's called watch me work and not watch me write, is that if you have a skill or a talent in one area, it's often a transferable skill, right? So everything you know already about acting, all that good stuff, that discipline and that skill, you can transfer to writing or anything, or parenting or whatever you want to do. It's something that you know how to do, and you just translate it into that other, the specifics of the other language. So you can... Yeah, so you're thinking, yeah, here I am, I'm having trouble sitting down at my desk writing, right? Get up and maybe do some, I don't know, vacuuming or sweeping, right? Or mopping the floor or washing the windows or whatever. A lot of times that repetitive movement can get you, can relax your mind. But really, at the end of the day, sit down and sit down for 20 minutes. That's why we only sit for 20 minutes. This thing is magical. It's a magical thing, it doesn't look magical. But it's a magical thing, and we only sit for 20 minutes and you sit down, and if you're having your writing practice and you're having difficulty, just sit in front of your writing instruments for 20 minutes and sit. And if you can't do 20, because sometimes 20 is hard, do 10 or 5. Yeah, how are you doing? But you know, 10 minutes, 5 minutes, 2 minutes. If you can sit down and you start your timer and you turn it on and you sit there writing, you know, your notebook or on your laptop or on your type, whatever you are, for 2 minutes. Great. Okay, am I writing for the day? Just show up every day. It's like money in the bank. It's like really, it's like if you put a dollar in the bank every single day, you know. Okay, I know they're looking at it, they're saying hi. Anyway, so yeah. Is that helpful? Because it's so simple. We think we have to like do some special, I would say, where was I? Give me a talk at USC the other week. And they were like, so what's your method? You know what you think? Do you like, you know, you write a candle? Write a candle. You light a candle and you do this and I'm like, I sit down. And I turn the timer on. And that's it. That's pretty much it. And I just move my fingers. Anybody else? I have a question. Hi. Hi. So I have all these, I have like this, I'm going to call it amorphous, I have an idea of like things. What did you call it? I called it amorphous. Amorphous, okay. Like for a while I've had an idea of this general topic I want to write about. Right. But I haven't known what medium it'll play in. Right. Whether it's a play, whether it's a film, whether it's a book, whether it's essays. Right. And I'm now committing to being more regular with writing. Right. So that I feel more comfortable with it. I kind of don't know how long to write in brainstorm before saying I'm going to turn it into something. Like when do I, for me it feels often like I'm journaling. But it's like when do I say, okay, I spent enough time in this, let me start shaping what I have. Right. So how long have you been journaling? Or are you journaling? Well, that's the thing. How long, since you said okay, how long has it been? Well, maybe two years. I'm not going to say that, but it hasn't been steady. Like it's like I pop in, start writing stuff, then I pop out. And then I write, and then I pop out. Right. So if it was, I know you're, I think you're married. You have a ring on. So if it was like somebody you were like married to. Yeah. And you were like married. You said yeah, we're married, but I'm going to pop in. Right. I'm going to pop in. They'd be like, yo, we're married or not. We're married. We ain't married. Yeah. What's up, right? Are you here or are you not? Right. I mean, are you committed to this thing, right? It's just like that. It's just like that. So if you say maybe I'm going to be there, you know, 24, 7, 7 days or whatever. Yeah. It was appropriate, and then you can start to feel the relationship, right? Okay. you're not really screwing yourself to build a relationship, right? And there's all this uncertainty on both sides. Are they really there for me? You have that about your work, right? Like, what is it? That's not about the relationship. What are we? It's the same thing. And your work is probably asking the same question. Who are you to me? Should I be with you? Or should I go to another right? Look, there she is over there. I heard that. That's like Lin-Manuel. You probably need a new project. Let me go and hang out with him. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I do. You're like, don't go to Lin-Manuel. Stay here with me. I'm here. You have to show up for them to show up. So when you've been doing that steadily, because at then you'll see that it will start to talk to you. Or you will start to talk to you, depending on how you want to look at it, right? You will start to talk to yourself and you will start to inform yourself, or the spirit will start to inform you. What it should be. Yeah. You'll start to say, hey, I think we're ready to go steady. Ready? Like that. You know what I mean? Yeah. It's the same thing. And if you ever have a question, it's always just, really, if you're lost, always just, what would it be like if it were dating? Kind of like, and it's like always true. It's like, huh, that's easy. Yeah. Right? And then see, you know, Jack, you've got like months under your belt. See, and then if you still have those questions, then yeah. But don't worry about it. It's not like you don't have to rush. You know, you don't have to enjoy, show up regularly. Use a timer or not, whichever you prefer. You know, show up regularly and be there for it. And there's going to be a movement that's going to start to happen. Talk to it, even when you're not at your desk. You know, this isn't the only time we're going to talk to our writing. Walking down the street, you talk to it, right? Hey, how are you doing? I mean, you don't have to move your lips. What can I do? These things right here are great. You can put these, I mean, not mine, but I'm sure you have some. Do you have some of these? Yeah. Okay, you put them on. You can walk down the street and talk to yourself. Everybody think, show them at home. I do it all the time. I walk time to time. And people think, oh, she's having important phone conversations. Okay, so talk to it as you're walking around. You know? Project. I've been starting it for a while, right? But I'm doing interviews. But it's with people who have Alzheimer's disease. Oh, wow. So they're really vulnerable. And I have this fear of if I don't verbatim, like record and type out exactly what they say. Right. That I'm doing them a disservice, that I shouldn't be writing it at all unless it's verbatim. Or I mean, I haven't been writing in verbatim style. Have you not been? I haven't been. I've been making stuff up. Okay. It feels true. Right? I guess my question is, have you ever felt like the form you wanted to do wasn't truthful enough? Or if you had to be more truthful? Yeah, that's a great question. What's your name? I'm Carly. Carly. That's a great question, Carly. Again, what I felt involved in was not the subject right now, but we're talking. Because I'm talking about you. So this is something about working with real people as opposed to spirits that are, you know, passed on or unreachable to us and they come to us through the sort of, you know, the air, the ether, the spirit, right? So that's... I feel like when you talk to real people, especially... I mean, this is just my opinion. Especially if they have a memory difficulty. You should write down what they say verbatim. Because they're real people. Now, if after you've assembled what they say, you want to then say like the back of your computer, Namaste, thank you. And step away from what they've said and then create your own thing based on, right? That's fine. But I think if you're... If you're not taking down what they say verbatim, then I wonder why you're there. And we... So you are taking down what they say verbatim. But then the process of... Oh, sure. I think as long as you have it down the way, you have respect for it, right? And then your work... It's tricky. But are they family members or are they... Are they in a street that's an all-timers' care home? Right. And I just interview them and do like any poetry workshops with them. Yes. Yeah. Why do you feel bad about it? Because it feels like it's their stories and I feel like it's important to tell them, but it feels selfish to want to tell it in my own words rather than in theirs. Right. Right. And you write poetry and you do poetry, right? Yes. Yeah. It's going to be a musical. It's totally different. Right, right, right. I write with them. Right. Oh, that's cool. That's cool. Just my... I mean, you brought up my honest feelings. You know, it's a tricky place to be in. There are echoes of that kind of action that I think you might hear and maybe echoes of that kind of behavior. You know, we go and do a community of hard stories and we take them in the closet from them. Right. I think that's kind of what you're realizing. Whoa, am I one of those people? I want to be one of those people. Yeah. Why do I not be one of those people? Stop, stop. Yeah. I would say if you're a creative person, why don't you just make up stuff on your own and if you want to interview them in service of them. They're people. You know, you work with them. You improve them. You love them and care for them. They're people. So... And they're not your family members. I mean, family members are a little different. It's like, fair game. It's a family. You give your time. You know what I'm saying? Some of them are. Most of them are. Yeah, most of these people are just folks. For me, there are too many echoes and other kinds of behavior that we call colonization. Yeah, that. You know? And then you don't want to be... you brought up because you don't want to be that person. So I would step away. That's my personal. Yeah. There are many people who go to communities, harvest stories and tell them some things and profit big time. And that, to me, is not the way I would know. That's all I can say. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. I know that you're not... I know. I know. I can tell. You're not one of those kind of people and you want to do the right thing. So I... I mean, I know that you have a really rich amount of money. We'll read history books about the times that maybe they lived, you know what I mean? And then start fabricating. Fabricating. You know? You know? Yeah. Yeah, but this is tricky. It's like, wow, it's really hard. That's really good, but it's not hard. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I can tell you really carefully, you know? So that's the way... And if you want to, again, record their stories and put them in some kind of book or publication or whatever, you know? Some kind of thing that would be in service of them. That's a wonderful project to do. And that is a great thing to do with them. I think they might... Folks would enjoy that. And their families would enjoy it. And you look at it properly from their tragic, tragic events. That's what you brought up. So thanks for giving up. That's really hot. That's a great question. Thank you. Good for you. You're doing it after knowing... You know what to do anyway. I mean, you know what to do. You know what to do. I'm not showing. I'm not showing. I'm gonna change it again, too. Okay, okay, okay, I'll change it again. Yeah. There you go. It's the same time. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I was wondering about organizing all the roles. I was wondering about organizing all the roles of yourself, because last I had I finally got on Big Town. I got on Big Town and like I had a good year. It turns out like writing and stuff and like putting it before it worked. But then like this last project I did I was finally like tapping into the act. It was I wrote a play and I was in the play and I could finally like do the actor part. And I didn't realize I wasn't tapping into that. So I feel like I was neglecting that portion of myself for a while. So it was like any tips for like kind of the neglect of like all the different roles because I came out saying like I'm gonna be an actor. But then like I was writing all the time and that was just always something. That's my career. Right. But now I'm trying to think like oh should I just like go back to classes. That's the only way I can be an actor right now or I can be a writer right now or I can be a musician right now like because I feel like every day I have to make a choice. I might have to be a writer today. Right, right, right. But this goes this is like the second chapter of your other story that you were telling me. It became the same thing. Alexis was like I have 50 projects and I can't decide. I'm sorry do this. I do this and I do that. Right, right. I have 50 careers and I can't decide. I would just say whatever you're doing at the moment do it with all your attention. So if you're gonna be a writer from you know nine in the morning to two o'clock at your desk or whatever do that thoroughly. And then if you're gonna then get ready for a gig go out and do a great gig. Just split it like that. Just do it with attention. You don't have to choose one. I spent all year like writing and I was like oh I have an actor and then wouldn't I? Yeah but also know that you have a tendency to put a lot of things in your field and not be able to choose. That's it. So this is one of those times. So know you don't have to go back to school and immerse yourself in some kind of acting career to be an actor. Sorry I mean I know that I don't know. I know he's great but you don't have to do that. You know what I'm saying? Because then you'd be in the same place but just backwards. You'd be saying oh I thought I shouldn't have been a writer but now I spent three years acting and then I have a degree in acting and I should get an actor. You know what I'm saying? So what you need to do is just incorporate everything. Like if you're acting great but remember you want to do some writing. So make sure you make time for your writing. If you're acting you don't have to do 20 seconds. It's like in an airplane. Maybe if you look down at your airplane you're going to see that oh there's a plane out there. Another airplane. And it's like five miles away and like ten miles down and it looks like you can see it. Yeah that's okay. So all your planes are going from here to somewhere. Where? Oh just like a station. Where's the nice place? Take your line. Great. I was going to say where. Okay so all your planes are going from here to the Muda right? And they're just in different places. And air traffic control all over your mind. You should just organize them. That's all. It's simple. We're allowed to do more than one thing. You don't have to stop doing what you're doing and go back to school and study acting and give up writing only to want to do more writing when you're in school because you gave up writing to be an actor. You know what I mean? It's going to be so challenging. I'm going to lie down. I have gorgeous hair. So I've kind of gotten to, I've hit another like under the middle wall. I've gotten to a place where I'm looking at the notes that I've written and I'm like maybe if I make them really pretty that will help. I've started tacking them to the wall. I'm like watching them really come together as a jigsaw puzzle. I kind of am like when am I going to stop writing notes and drawing myself crazy? So I'm trying to get to a place where it's like okay, I put all the scenes in order and now it's just making sense of them all. You put all the scenes in order. They're all in order. They're all written. They're all second draft. Some of it is just like I should write about this and then I should write about that. You put all the scenes in order like all the scenes are written or all the scenes are in order when they might pass it. Three of them are like okay, these are written and ready for people to, like I'll give them to people again. Then four of them are like this would be really cool. How am I going to write this? Right, right, right. Okay, so two things. I think everybody said so three of them are written like I give them to people to look like. Like I wouldn't give them the conditional. You have not. One in my hat. Okay. And what's good? Well, she thought it was funny. Yeah, it's like. Put on the break. Yeah. Yeah. Because, because, because, because, because. You're going to write to the end. You're not going to show anybody. Right. Because, because, because, because, because. Right? I mean, it's good. It's great. I mean, I hope the feedback was good. It was good. It was very much like, she's like I really don't have time to read more than four pages. It's great. Here's four pages of something new. You know, I've known her for a very long time. But I, yeah. I just, I've got a very bad habit of not completing and having people look at it. Okay. Great. Awesome. Awesome. So here we go. We're going to get away from this. So we take, we don't have to put on the break because you know what your problem is. Put off the break. And when are you going to start writing notes? When you start writing the scenes? Yeah. And, and are you concerned that they might not be as good as they are in your head? That's part of it. And what else? Like doing the research and being historically accurate about things. And what if you're historically inaccurate? I think that's more me putting pressure on myself. What if you don't do any research? That's better. I think that might be better. What if you're like, yo, I'm a first responder. I'm going to just write this on the fucking fly and then I'll do the research later. That might be a better, that might be a better idea. What if you write so fast that the person in your mind who tells you that you shouldn't be writing can't keep up with you? That sounds cool. Yeah. So how many scenes do you have? Seven. Seven. So what if you wrote like, I don't know, how many pages are, is it same? It's about, it must have to be about 17 to 20. You're seeing the 17. No, no, no. The whole thing together. So you're seeing as probably one as four pages, one as three pages. Great. So what if you wrote like a scene every three days? Okay. Just like, have you ever like been sick and your stomach hurts when you throw up? Yes. You go through it. Yeah. That's great. Just vomit it out. And don't give it to your friends you're leaving. Yeah. That was, that was not wise. Well, it didn't. You did it. So, you know, we've been married in the worst. It's okay. We're not going to go to hell for it. You know what I mean? We're writers hell. You know? Yeah. Just, just stop. Stop. And go get another one. Start showing it to yourself. That's who needs to see it. You need to see those scenes. So write, vomit something out. Like, can you, are you, you're writing every day? Yeah. Great. So just start writing the scene. Start seeing the first scene. It makes it really bad. Make it bad. Impress me. Make it really shitty. Come in here. And I'll be like, oh man, girl, that scene stinks. Like that. I bet you can't do that. I bet you can't. I bet you can't. I bet you'll try and you won't. Because you'll come in and you'll be like raining. I'm like, I love it. Is that my challenge? Your challenge is to make it really, really stinky so I can smell it. Okay. Like write the shittiest, stinkiest, dumbest, lamest scene ever in the history of all playwriting in the entire world. Okay. Like write a jack that will be shittier than mine. But you can't. But you can't. You know what I'm saying? Okay? I think so, yeah. You can write every day. Stop writing notes. Start writing your play. Okay? So next week you should have like what, two scenes written, right? Yeah. So you write one and then you write another one. And don't read them. Okay. And then go to the next one. I can't write it until it's perfect and ready. Yeah. So let go of that. Just let go. Let just let go. Just let that go. Just you're holding on to that. You know, there's that story in, well, where there are monkeys that, chimpanzees are monkeys that enjoy being around people sometimes. People like to catch them. Have you heard this story where they have these coconuts? And the best way to catch a monkey is to hollow out the coconut and then put a little candy inside and the monkey will put his hand in or her hand and they'll grab the candy and then, you know, the coconut is like attached to something. And they'll grab the candy and they'll sit there and go, oh, shit, I can't get my hand out. And all the hunter has to do is go up to the monkey and get them because they want to release their hands to take it out of the coconut. So this grasping that we do sometimes always is like a, I'm never free to do what we need to do, right? Let's do it. Just, yeah, really. Okay. And the worst, that's the worst thing that can happen. The worst thing that can happen is you write a lousy draft and you join the millions of writers. Do you think Hamilton was good at pointing to it? Because little manuals respect you a little bit. You think Hamilton was like brilliant the first draft? Probably not. Maybe it was. Maybe it was. But, you know, I think it was like a workshop, wasn't it? Which means it wasn't brilliant and perfect when it came out. And it was based on something, you know, so it really had some foundation there. You know, like yours, though. You're just like a factual series of events that you like. Oh, that's good. That's a good idea. Okay, well, it's only a good idea if you're going to do it. If you don't do it, then it's just a stupid idea. I'm just bouncing on the side of these things. Anybody else? What's your name? Stephanie. Stephanie? Hi. Okay, this is so fun. Okay, so I do myself to commit to writing and to happen to that board in that medium. And I have an idea and I just, I don't know how to, I guess, articulate it. I see things, like I see pictures of like a scene that might happen or a few characters. I just don't know, I guess, which angle to, as a point of entry to begin. Right. And I'll write about a little thing over here and then write about another little thing over here. And I guess not know how to connect the dots. Right. So I just, it's okay. Great question. Did you hear Stephanie's question? She has an idea. She sees scenes and she'll write about the scene and then she'll write the scene and then she'll write the scene and she doesn't know how to connect them all together. Is that an accurate? Yeah. Or like have an idea for a character, but not yet fully understand where they should fit into the larger puzzle. Right. It's really on that idea. Right. So do you spend time every day working on this wonderful thing you're writing? I, no, I should. It's more like every week or so, like I'll commit to it and then come back and then other things, you know. Like what? Do you like watch recreational television? No, really not. Do you surf online and read about the political climate? I just wondered where your time is going to be. Oh, yeah. Slipping into the future. Why? I know. I'm also an actor so I'm trying to just balance things like that too. But that's not an excuse. Yeah. No, you're right. You're right. No, I'm totally right. So 20 minutes. I mean, do you have 20 minutes of time? Yeah. Okay. Buckle down. Why do you have to buckle down? You just have to turn on your computer and do like your heart's desire. It's not buckling. There's no whipping, no beating, no buckling, no shackling, no pain. Well, there might be pain. But there's not going to be any. You're just going to do like what's going to make you really, really, really happy, right? Yeah. I just, I just didn't know like, is there supposed to be like, I guess a chicken or an egg of like what, what's supposed to bubble up first or it just happens and. Alexis is gone. No, no, no, no. No, no, no. I think the only thing is the only thing, the chicken and the egg thing is not with product but with process. So the, the, the thing that comes first, the last question is you're going to do more time to it. And the thing that comes next is the wonderful thing that makes you really happy. Okay. But it's a great question. So I would say just put more time into it. Okay. And again, these things are going to start to talk to you. You're going to start to, again, it's like daily, again, you've got to get on top of it and out of this lover of yours. You know, you have to sit there and be consistent with him. Okay. And you, if you have a character and you don't know where they fit, ask them. You say, where do you fit in a nice one? And I'm like, I'm a star. You're a show. And you say why? What do you do that's so interesting? And they go, I, you know, knit really well. You go, wow. Okay. So maybe it's a play about knitting. I mean, they made a play about spelling. You're welcome. But it's true, right? I mean, but that's the answer to everything. Like, we just show off. It's really, it's just like, just put the time in. And I'm not saying like, oh, you're wasting time. We're all like super busy, right? And anything about time. Time. Cut off. Stop talking. We can stop talking. Bye. We'll see you next time. We'll be here next week, right? And we'll be here next week. October 24. Awesome. Okay. Bye. I'm just going to finish talking. Stephanie. Okay. But we all, we're really busy. Everybody's so precious for business, right? And that's the thing. It's like time management. You know, learn it now or learn it better. And then you kind of don't have it down about 20 minutes a day. That's all you need to make your thing come to life. You know, it really, really, really works. Because sometimes, I mean, I have a five-year-old. You're young. Carol is my witness. Five-year-old. Not by me. It's a stage of like, look at what I look like coloring. You know, 20 minutes a day is all I need to get myself done. It works. Okay. Okay. So we'll be back next time. Next week. Same time. Same channel. Okay. Thanks, guys. Thanks for coming.