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Jack Dempsey -vs- Jack Sharkey 7/21/27 part 3

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Published on May 20, 2010

Jack Dempsey -vs- Jack Sharkey

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Slickdapj
We are going to disagree. There is a ton of evidence, observers, and even Paul Beeler, the official timekeeper for the fight, said that the amount of time elapsed between Tunney being put on the deck, and upon Tunney getting up and referee Dave Barry reaching "nine" was 17 seconds. Ever seen a fighter who is in complete control, ready to rise at "9", sitting on his duff? Didn't think so. Forced to get up, if he could have, Tunney gets hunted down and KOed, just like earlier in the round.
TheSmithDorian
" you can plainly see Tunney, finally, turn and look at the referee" He could hear the count prior to turning to the ref. "It wasn't 5 seconds either, closer to 7 or 8" It's been officially timed at 5 seconds. 'No way he gets up" How does a guy that physically can't even get to his feet at 10 secs, not only do so with no ill effects but actually outbox a rampaging Dempsey 5 or even 7 seconds later?.
Slickdapj
Your timing is all messed up. Tunney went down, his leg folded awkwardly under him, staring into space, knocked silly. At the 9 second point, and by that I mean after he had been on his rear for 9 seconds of actual time, not what the referee was counting, you can plainly see Tunney, finally, turn and look at the referee. No way he gets up. It wasn't 5 seconds either, closer to 7 or 8, according to a reporter with a stopwatch ringside. He was down forever. 
TheSmithDorian
Tunney wasn't KO'd, not even close. It's not as if he was flat on his back with his eyes shut. He was giving a text book example of what a fighter is supposed to do when knocked down. He shifted his balance so he'd be able to get up when needed then started listening closely to the refs count and when it got to 9 he got up and carried on. He wasn't jelly legged or staggering around the ring either. A fighter that can't physically get up at 10 doesn't magically recover given 5 extra seconds..
Slickdapj
No argument there. There also should be no argument that Tunney was KOed. Nor any argument either that if, somehow, you could get a fight between the two in their primes, Tunney would not have stood a chance.
Slickdapj
Think about it. An over-the-hill Jack Dempsey KOs two hall of fame fighters in successive fights. Oh, I know, the battle of the long count was won by Tunney, but Dempsey KOd him as sure as we are sitting here. Tunney doesn't look up until the count of 9. He'd never have made it, and even if he had, Dempsey finishes him without the extra 7-8 seconds. Never mind Tunney "won" 9 rounds, a puncher just needs the one. Dempsey was a hell of a fighter.
1saxonwolf
Some of the best examples of inside fighting you'll ever see. Vicious shovels hooks transitioning from body to head. Classic Dempsey. Best ever.
Slickdapj
Dempsey had thumped Sharkey's body all fight long. He had knocked him down with a body shot at the end of Round 3. I don't blame Sharkey for whining to the Ref, he was tired of getting hit in the tummy. Sharkey landed a few low ones as well, esp in Round 5. Dempsey didn't blink, he just bored back in and thumped Sharkey's body some more. 
Michael Ferreira
Protect Yourself At All Times!!!
Lyle Hill
@allanini Dempsey could be a little "rough" inside so I'd guess so. But it's no more illegal than the blow Sharkey landed after the bell at the end of round 6
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