 Welcome to Toffing TV, it's the final word Manchester United won, Everton won. Let's just get the elephants out of the room. What have you got on? I've got on the Everton Christmas jumper. Available from the Everton store. I mean, I like the tower there. Yeah, it's bright. I tell you what though, it's warm so it's only three degrees outside so this is... Diana Ross? Diana Ross is literally outside. If you want to get a load of this, the link is in the description if you want one. Available from Everton. If it's warm it's doing its job. Everton won Everton. I mean, it's doing a job. It's got a tower on. I thought it'd be blue, not really but it's, you know. There you go. Away. And away Christmas Jordyn, did you get away Christmas jumpers when you're like... For Chelsea. Chelsea away. Chelsea away, yeah. Incredible scenes. There you go. Did I get into the Christmas spirit, Tony? You've got to. Nine days to Christmas. If you can't throw a jumper on like this, nine days before Christmas, when can you? Exactly. Other jumpers are available. We've got one. We've got one. I mean, you have to order it today if you want a guarantee. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. So Manchester United away. Tough game on paper. They've won the last couple of games. Manchester Barbie last week. So, you know, bit worried and then you see the team sheet and you think, yeah. Massively worried. Yeah, and now I'm like, forget about this one. Move on to the next. Long tree battle. Yeah, long tree have a go. And we did and we got a point out of it. Fair play to you then. Obviously, we already knew that it was not going to be any snarging, no woke off. And then to find that there was going to be no Cedric and no Sigarton was well. I mean, when you looked at the team sheet and we found create the back and a midfield of Tom Davis. It was literally on his own. On his own. Then, you know, it started to feel like this could be one of those things. A long afternoon. Yeah, yeah. But it wasn't like that, was it? No. Mason Holgate had dropped into the back. Three for five seconds. Foxed everyone. Well, Duncan and his mind games. Play mind games. Told everybody that he'd played three at the back. Told all the commentators. Obviously, told everyone to put it out as the team sheet. And, you know, we didn't allow Oligon and Soul Sky to maybe capitalize on any last minute changes. Give any last minute instructions. So it was all in the game. And I thought that was nice little clever thing to do considering that the players that we had out. You know, to sort of keep the calm and think I'll do something a little bit different. I thought that was nice, cute little thing to do. And obviously, we've seen Mason Holgate going to midfield. We'll talk about him later. But, you know, we turned up with the same attitude that we turned up last week. Players who played were willing to give everything for the sheet. And at the moment, that's all you can ask for, isn't it, really? Yeah, I mean, we had the 15-second scare, didn't we? Yeah, we did. Which was probably the worst moment in the game. If you actually look at it, you like to have a few chances, but you don't have anything really clear-cutting. That was one of the best chances. The adnit was in the opening seconds on it. Yeah, listen, you looked at that team. You know, you were expecting slightly different, because obviously, we thought Sigurdd's going to see the beard play. I didn't know whether he'd played two down the right to be fullbacks, down the right just for experience. I didn't know whether Sidderby had played out in midfield because they were well-copying out. But you see the team and it's like four changes and they're out with illness and he's out and you're just looking and going. You know, looking and thinking. They say, five, four, one, you know, and make it difficult. But it's a fair play to him. You know, we went with four, four, three. Hullgate went into midfield. And once we got over that first 15 seconds, the players kept the shape nicely. You know, it was good to see Yeri Mena come back in. You know, but we're having a ridiculous season for the injuries. It's incredible that other teams don't seem to get a single injury or not one of any note. And we've, you know, the dropping like flies. On Sunday, we have five centre midfield players out. Five. You know, you can't carry that many in a squad normally. We haven't got any of them. You know, so it's just bizarre. The three that the manager and the ex-manager and Marcel Brans brought in in the summer are unavailable. You know, it's just absolutely mad on him. 15, 20 minutes in, we lose the left back. You know, but it just shows that what he's been able to get across to the players and what he's been able to instill in such a short space of time is work rate and commitment. And every one, well, almost every one of them seem up for the work rate and the commitment, don't they? And we've seen that with, you know, obviously James had given given Dean a little bit of a scare a couple of times with his pace, but to lose him. Yeah, it was... I mean, do you think it was a risk worth taking with Dean? He had been stiff, but he had stiffness in his carol. Yeah, I mean, I don't know, because I don't know how bad it was and maybe we trained on it and felt like it was going to be... It's a player, isn't it? For an injury like that, a doctor can't, if a player, is better than a player, some players are going, oh, I'm feeling this, and go, Dean has obviously gone, I'll be all right, I'll be all right. And a couple of things go differently, I can get through the game. He's made that choice himself. I suppose the only fortune of the thing is he's one of the only physicians we've got. We've got a ready-made replacement. OK, maybe not ability wise, but just in terms of obviously the age and everything like that, it is different. He can't do the same job. He's the Z, all game, and was great. You know what I mean? He never put himself in a situation where he got in a foot race, so... And he got to put it, he got up and down as much as he could as well. I think, listen, at the end of the day, what Duncan has been into in still is not only a bit of fighting, a bit of passion, but he's gone back to basics and he's put a shape in place. And I think it's something I've alluded to in the various managers, is that you... As a team, we're starting off on one point, and we're trying to get from one to ten, and we're missing out all the bits in between, and that's what's been catching us out personally in the last few years, I think. And it was only Aradais who instilled that, but he didn't want to get past three, and was never really given the chance to get past three, even in that season, he had his own opportunities, he's just refused to take them. What backgrounding does, is allows you to be solid in every game, and you know then, and this is what good teams do, this is what the best teams do, to get back into the shape. They lose the ball to get back into the shape, and obviously we will talk about a moment in a minute, which might be one of the reasons why Duncan wasn't... Well, we don't know. It's about getting back into shape, and I thought that's what we did really well in this game, and it was like, it doesn't matter who you are. If you get back into your shape, and you get numbers behind the ball, you're going to be hard to break down, especially against a team that liked the counter attack. There was only a couple... There was a little spell in the first half, a little five-minute spell, where they got the ball over the top twice. Luckily enough, they were just done up wide, not to be to finish. You've got to say, though, why were we creeping up the pitch? What man United were doing in those moments, was they were allowing us, almost, daring us to creep up the pitch, and Liverpool did similarly, and we fell into the trap, and it was only for a little five-minute spell in this game that we did. That was the only time, and you mentioned the first 15 minutes, but that was the only time I was really worried, because I was never really worried when we had men behind the ball, because I think we are one of those teams that if we get men behind the ball, to when we're on the counter attack that we get caught at, we've seen that against Brighton, we've seen that a couple of times, we've seen that against Leicester. It's when teams are running at a pace that I am worried, but when we just sit back and allow teams to play near to the box, I don't think it's that much of an issue. So, for that little five-minute spell, it was a bit dodgy, but we got through that, and then, as I said, they liked to have a woven, like some Bernard. Going forward, they were in great, and we criticised the wobby last week. He was still the same, he wasn't great on the ball, but this week it was a lot better. He was just getting in and around, and Bernard was doing the same, and that's hard for players who would attack a man to players. They don't want to do that work. They just want to get up the pitch and then jog back, but when you've got a team ethos, and this is where I think Leicester has been so good and where Jamie Vardy is such a, when people look at him, he is the kind of player that, when you've got a player like that in your team, you know, who's prepared to get back, it sets the tone for everyone else, it tells everyone else, well, if I'm prepared to do it, and we've now started to see a couple of those players in our team with us saying, if I'm going to do it, you've got to do it, and that wasn't there before, that wasn't there. The only last one to do that was Garnir, who was willing to get round the pitch, so I was, I'm just happy at the moment to see players working hard and getting, doing the basics right, cos I think that's a, people go, oh yeah, but it's so basic, and it's so, that's what you build on to become a good side. This league is full of basic teams, it's absolutely full of basic teams, Liverpool are great, they're not like total football, like Manchester City, Manchester City are a bit more total football, Liverpool work hard, City work hard, Leicester work hard, near the top three teams in the league, so the only else, for me, is quite basic. Man, United, the fifth, the fifth before yesterday, and he dropped a place to me, but the fifth before, in the top five going into this weekend, are the amazing, now they've got some really good attacking players, like Rashford, Burives hit, was nearly in it, was he? Daniel James was the biggest outlet, Greenwood did well the kid when he come on, but Marcia Alden didn't do that, he's got a great goalie, Maguire's all right, and Wambasach is a good player, the rest. But there's a lot of teams like that, so if you get your bases right, well, Geoffie and I are the sixth or fifth or something, fifth, they have just got a base now, okay, to win things you have to have more, we know that, but what we've seen, is that Tottenham is under Potetino, in particular, and it'll be more now, probably under Marino, which is why they're winning a big game almost, is that he's big on shape, isn't he? So they will get back into shape, and then they've got people like Lucas Mora and Harry Kane and Son, who will be the little cherry on the top of the cake. Liverpool are brilliant at it, because they have three really weakmen, like centre of midfield players, and then the sprinkle is at the top. Whatever them, what I think, where we've gone wrong is, there's nothing wrong with the idea, the idea is right, bringing young youthful players who are good on the ball, good in possession, and will build a team together, but if you don't know how to dig in and get results against games when it isn't coming off, and things aren't working, you quickly lose football matches, Arsenal have a similar thing, you lose games because there's no stealing your team because your shape isn't good enough, so once you're playing against more agricultural teams, you will do that hard work and that craft, you can't compete with them because they overpower you. You're soft, you know, and that's what everything has been for far too long, soft touch, that's why I'd like to check if there's any way to come to goodness and sit behind the ball and then spring us away doing it at the moment, saying what we did yesterday, what those teams did to us, pick Nick on a point here, you know, and that's what you've got, like, you know, Chaffrey's and I said we've got maybe a couple more wins than us, Wolves have got one more win. One more, you know, but we've said this for the last couple of weeks, it's getting rid of those defeats and picking up the points and trying to get a win at all and that will soon get you up the league and that's what, as I said, that's what we've forgotten, we've completely forgotten. What I've looked at, and what I've looked at since Duncan's coming in particular, is I don't know whether you agree, but if you get if you get your basic instruction as we work hard, once we've got our full compliments of players, if they still work as hard, we will fly because, ability-wise, we've got a lot, evidently, we've got a hell of a lot of ability in that squad. What was missing under the previous man as he was? The basic stuff, like you've just said the way, issue me, and other people will be different because you say it, but because I think the problem is we've been we haven't been conned, but we've been fed and we know what this is it's like when media feed your stuff with everything as we've seen in the last four or five days with other things that have gone on, dark days, when you're fed a common message, you believe it, or people subconsciously believe it, and we've been fed this message that you have to play football, like Manchester City. City is great at what they do. Is it a bit boring to watch sometimes? Yeah, it is, because for me personally other people will love it. Barca were great, but I know loads of people who were bored with the way Barca want to play, because I like a bit of blood and thunder, and it's just the way I am, but I think if you can get your team working hard, get your shape right, then the better players in your squad, ability wise, everything will go bum, bum, bum, bum, through the gears because we've got a good squad, but without that message coming through that you have to work, and you have to press, and you have to get into your shape. Just because you're a top player doesn't mean you don't work hard, Messi works hard, Ronaldo works ridiculously hard, they're the top two players in the world. You know, mannaeth y Liverpool who's up there and runs his socks, you can't be easy-ousy in football anymore, I don't think, nor at the top level, anyway. And if you haven't got a complement of good players, you've got to have the shape you've got to have the team, your team's got to be working hard, and I think something will come on in a minute it's what Duncan has said to the players in the first couple of games is let's get the fundamentals right, and let's start picking up points, and forget all the other things, unless you just get back like you've just said, and you're right, good teams are built on hard work, can't stress that enough, and it's night and day from what we've seen at play it's just, you know, lasing around the pitch and not, look at, think of like, think of like the knowledge game and watching Snidlin running back, and Sigarton just strolling back in the midfield because nobody says to them afterwards what are you doing, what are you doing, no one says it because it's this attitude of you can't see that, this is new football but haven't we said haven't we said many times why I'm no load of in the comments people have said it and people who've come in here and sat on the couch why aren't players pulling each other why aren't they going on what can I say do you think that's an environment that had been built one thing stuck out to me about when that lot came to go doesn't matter whenever it was and it was nil, the game was nil wasn't it, but he brought Milneron who was like being the captain of the lot hasn't he come on and there was a couple of things it was right below me, it stood out and he gave the ball away, swish and Van Dijk was fucking like that to him and that was like two captains and I was like it's nil nil it wasn't like we nearly scored it was like two throw-ins in our app and he was bollocking him about and I was thinking he's being the captain he's 30-odd this fella's the captain he wanna stay tight and when I look at everything there's been no laugh for years and there's nothing wrong with challenging each other in a game, you're a team together so good teams are able right here, right here for years fucking grab people by the throat and okay it's moved on a little bit but it still doesn't mean you can't challenge your team you're right we've been completely we've been completely kidded by people telling us how you're supposed to do things and how you're not supposed to do things and we've seen it today with the incident which we'll talk about in a minute oh you can't do that, you can't do that and it's like why can't you do that it's mad because Pep Guardiola grabs players after the cup final and some people go like that and other people are like you can't do that to footballers and it's nonsense it's utter nonsense and it's this environment that has been created to protect players and it's all, and I've said this for ages and I remember doing a few things with like different radio stations and ex-players telling me no one plays this whole thing of when a player wants to leave there's no point keeping them at all where does that come from other footballers say things like that and then it drips into the media because then you have people in the media in the media, not ex-players you listen to those ex-players then follow on going you can't say that because they've got no experience of being a player so then they say you can't do that to a top player you can't do that, you can't talk to them like that it's like what a load of bollocks what a load of bollocks we've created this culture now where people are terrified of upsetting each other right when you're doing it for their own good it's like the whole thing of like you know I hate to use, I don't like that I don't like the way it's snowflake I hate that it's horrible people use it just to slag off people for anything you know it's like the dawe but we are creating this culture of like with footballers forget about anything else, with footballers where you're right where you can't say to each other what are you doing here what were you doing you were given a job to do and it's ridiculous if you're playing football and you've been given an instruction to do and you're not doing it what else is having to do with your job that person is prepared he's entitled to play football what are you doing and this is the problem again this is where leadership comes in leadership on the pitch and leadership off the pitch of people being able to set an environment it's not it's not a bullying environment it shouldn't become something that becomes the big thing but players should be put out of the aisle and I know we had it we had it a few weeks ago when they were like oh we had a problem meeting and all that nonsense it's just like sad but what happened to that because if players are not comfortable around each other enough to have a go with each other then what's the point then you need to create an environment where they are you need to be more team stuff which leads us on to this so let's get it out of the way because it's the big talking point so obviously it's one one we're going into the dying minutes Moise Keane are being brought on I think he's been on for 18 minutes the ball goes up, the ass is coming on and Moise Keane is going off which I mean I was just completely shocked by to be honest it's difficult sometimes with when you're watching it on TV because you're not or even when you're at the game when you're following the ball rather than what people are doing off the ball and I don't you know doing whatever that's why I'm surprised but you know Duncan came out and said first of all said well it was because he was trying to waste a bit of time he said that straight afterwards when the camera was thrusting his face and then later on he said well he didn't look like he got into the game you know and maybe it was a bit too fast for him I mean first of all what do you think about the idea of bringing a player off in the last minute who's only been on the pitch for 18 minutes just in terms of what that can do for the player yeah it's not great that I was shocked I'll be honest I was a little bit disappointed with Duncan for doing that from a player's perspective you're putting a young lad on who's not settled at the moment he's quite clearly not settled because he started to see Premier League in just December so the previous man I'd say didn't play him and Duncan shook over and obviously he was going to bring him on last week against Chelsea but demoned and he brought him on I thought it was the right decision to bring him on the other day I thought we just needed a little director but he'd given away two silly free kicks so I hadn't really got in the game and moved around but it's not great obviously on the whole when you look at it it isn't great it's created a headline we didn't need of course but I think it depends what Duncan's asked him to do Duncan said to him go on and keep the ball for me or go on and run them or get up and down or get back into shape and he's not done it then he's the manager isn't he he's got to do what he thinks is best for the team at the end of the day from a player's point of view it's not great for my lad who's obviously struggling with confidence but then that can be sorted by hopefully Duncan will sit down with him and have a once on one which I'm sure he will and explain to him A what's expected of him and B that you know it happens we've seen remember Mideenio done it a matter he put them on and took them off again in the charity shield game and it was just a tactical thing it makes a headline because a sub doesn't normally sub Howard Kendall did it to Neil Adams in the charity 77 took them off he won a league medal I think it's happened to there was a big list of them and it's happened to a few players I think the reaction to it has been farcical I really do it's right if it had been the ass no-one would have said the word don't want to calm Lou no-one Tom Davis no-one would have said the word it's just because he's obviously come with a he's come with a high profile there isn't a high profile sign come from your Ventus he's one of the brightest prospects in the world young brightest prospects in the world and that's what people say in the mind and people are worried now that he'll go or whatever well if he goes he goes the last man that he didn't play if he goes he goes you can't worry about them you can't get caught up in this I looked at it and I just thought I've seen a few comments about it but what did you think forget the comments I just thought it was weird but I just thought there must be a reason for it and I looked at Duncan a lot of people have said Duncan and I've seen it last night it was on like matter of the day too with Janice and like I was more disappointed by Duncan's reaction to the player not having a word of them or not giving them a hug or anything like that well Duncan's made the decision right and I'm happy he's made the decision because that was my biggest criticism of the last manager his in-game management not seeing stuff before it happened now if Figgs isn't seeing something and he's not happy with it and you're going into three minutes or four minutes of injury time and he's seeing a recurring theme of this lad's not tracking back and it means it means someone's getting extra space or whatever and that could be a problem then he's done that to protect what we have now something what I don't understand is if you're giving this situation I've seen loads of people going you've embarrassed them in front of the world every game is on print if the game hadn't been on sky yet it would still have been on everywhere in the world it's against Manchester United for a start so what is he supposed to do so if I say to you right now if you sat there going oh it's terrible and it ate his feelings he might never come back and I said to you right we kept them on and we conceded and lost 2-1 would you have took that and the lad's feelings weren't it or are you going to take what it was no listen like I just said before it's Duncan does got to do what's best for the team so if he's looked and seen a problem then he's made a decision hasn't he he's going to be a professional footballer he's going to have highs and lows in his career he's got to bounce back from things as he done is he doing enough on the training ground is he doing enough to get up to speed is he saying what do I need to do to get in this team to get me to answer I want to play, I want to develop what do I need to do more of he might be doing that for all I know I don't know when he's my bar what goes on with Finch Farm with him but what I would say is normally when a man that he doesn't play it and then the next man that he doesn't play it something you need to be doing a bit more than what you do do you feel like Adam all the luck with newb again Leipzig on training so he's played twice for them this season he didn't play under he didn't play under Sam Alladais he didn't play under Marco Silva for us so Ronald Cooman didn't play him and the next man that he's got why aren't people asking questions of the player this is what annoys me this is what annoys me it doesn't matter who the manager is why aren't people asking questions on them you know you know he's gone off and he's walked down the tunnel for all we know don't come with the saying random out of the way where he's showing the game he's kicking every ball and he's hitting every header and he's you know he's fully in the he's made the decision last week he didn't hug anyone he's like a charlison off I thought at the time it was a weird decision but he made the decision and that's all you want from your manager because he was shaking his head as he walked off last week he didn't even look at him then he grabbed him and crazed him at the end if he grabs hold of him and gives him a... who's he doing it for is he doing it so you don't feel uncomfortable with the situation so you don't feel embarrassed by the situation Duncan hugging him when he come off what would that have done he might have actually made it worse he might have gone and then there's a big scene isn't there the best thing to do is to sit down with my friends farm and go this is the reason why I think you have to go play with what he said he says you go play and he'll come again you sit down with him and you say look you weren't doing this this and this the others were you have to do what they're doing see that's the thing about it right all of it I've seen it straight away I've seen people coming and saying spilled the game for me and all this who run through brick walls forever were all people like Tom Davis who was on a yellow carpet 85 minutes who made sure he did all the right things were people like Mason Hulgate who played out of position what about Bob and the Cavill Llewman who's winning everything in the air up front Shane was calling coming back, Leighton's Baines Deane playing probably both of that wanted another few days were all these players that are doing all the right things what if they're looking at it going we've just run it we've just legged it round for 90 minutes and this lad's up front just strolling round and breathing out of his ars because he's not fitting up for whatever the reason and not doing the job the manager asked him to do when I just ran his bollocks off for 61 minutes he didn't have a great game but he was running up and down the ask comes on and he does the things he's been asked to do the man dug into his ear saying to him go out there and get the ball and get it up to the end of the pitch I'm not I can't be having this this nonsense about and everyone's entitled to their own opinion I understand but I just don't get this thing about going on a bar a player just be oh he's been embarrassed a minute so what so what a lot of people won't be bothered by it though some people will but again though it's the narrative though afterwards people tell me oh he's embarrassed them there he's had a ban there I think he's right what he's done is right and he'll go and speak to the player if the player decides that he doesn't want to play for everything and this is an excuse we'll then see you later not asked because if you're not if you can't be committed if you're not willing to go I understand what I need to do if you want to play at the top you want to be the best you're going to have to you're going to be left out he left the event just because he's been left out and he was looking for something new right and I don't know maybe he's been sold that he was going to walk into the event and see I don't know right maybe that's what he was sold I don't know he hasn't worked out like that so you add the react two ways you add a fight and you put a shift in and you work hard and you put the extra hours in and all the rest of it or you just go to the next club and then the next club and then the next club and I've seen loads of those plays in my life that I've been told are going to be the next big thing and all he keeps doing is going and going and what happens is they end up going somewhere with a nice little paper patch doing whatever they need to do and then they get to move back to a big club and then they'll dros again because the standards that I'd expected of them from those big clubs they can't live with and there's been loads of those players I know but listen that he might not be that person he's a 19 year old boy from a different country playing in a different league he's only been here four months but what he has to do now it's now is the start of his ever in Korea the fella who brought him in well I suppose he is still here because it was brands more than silver who wanted them so it's up to Marcel Brands as well to speak to him and go listen and go on and say now all this moaning to your agent or whatever or these stories get your head down and be coming the best because the best way for you to get better is to get back from this and to score goals and to run over to Ferguson in fact he should be saying to Ferguson help me you are a psycho what do I need to do prove yourself because if you get to your level you'll get back to where you want to go the lads are clearly disappointed right and I fully understand that why he was disappointed it's embarrassing I've got no problem with him listen if you enter the storm off he's stormed off so I didn't see myself you're disappointed it's how you bounce back from that of course it is the lads might be in the team from Wednesday for all we know but we might be in the team it might have to be we might start on Wednesday and the manager might say right go on then prove it to me when you're not in a team you've got to take every opportunity and if he can't run around when he's just come on and get up to speed that's on him because other players are doing it don't do that the charlison does every single game whether he has a good game I don't think the charlison has a particularly good game but he ran his socks off and made it difficult for them so that's what he has to do and if he does it he'll get more opportunities to score goals because he'll be in the right places and he'll make people think that he'll make the biggest norie wherever he comes in as the manager make a decision on him and go this kid can play in that team this kid's going to get us goals it's the same thing I'm not criticising the player as such because it's not a nice thing to happen to you I'm not really having a go with him it's just all the stuff surrounding him don't let players have an easy ride do you know what I mean we're so quick to judge players for one thing but we're not willing I think some Evertonians like you said before they're terrified and we've got this really good talent and we're going to lose them because of that and it's like thinking that the bigger picture you want the lad to be an Everton player and understand think about what he's got to do then the players that Evertonians normally love are players that give us those moments but also run through brick walls and do the extra stuff and that's what I can't understand it's like I've seen people like oh that don't come and lose the respect of some of the players because of that he won't because the players on the pitch will look at it and go well if he wasn't doing his job and I am doing his job then he's letting the side down and I don't think if I don't do my job I'll be dragged off I don't want to call the loom because it's in to be on the pitch after the game and there's freezing figures into the hilt so I don't think listen it's a warning as well it's a warning I've seen Alan Shearer talking about it and he was like it happens it's up to the kid to bounce back what it is is it's a warning to every other player I don't care who you're at if you don't put the shifting you're off that's the way it is the lad will sink or swim now it's up to him it's up like you said if he's not prepared and I'm not saying he isn't and I hope he does because I like him I've seen a lot of him last season I think he's a good prospect but it's sink or swim knuckle down and prove dunking wrong as I say it's not a nice thing to happen but you've got it but this whole thing of like ruin the what be it there's always the next game and there's a game in a couple of days so what you do is if you're in you go in today, you run your bollocks off you go in tomorrow, you run your bollocks off and you say to the manager I want another chance, I want this what do I have to do you ask him for advice and so that when you do it you ask the manager for advice and he says you need to do this, this and this if you go and do this, this and this and he doesn't play you can then have a go with him 10 sprints and you do 5 cos you can't be asked or you think you're better and again I don't know if this is what I'm just talking about in general the footballers then you're going to, you know obviously yw maen nhw achs does it doesn't he because he's been given, he's been brought on the pitch so obviously in training he's running around like a lunatic so dunking is going like to bring him on cos I know he'll run around like a lunatic and he's miles better than he is of course he is but no good having all the abilities it's no good which is why Walcott always played over Luchman because Walcott would do his job Luchman probably got more ability than Walcott in his wrong foot but the thing is Walcott would do his job it's why some players get in and you go wow is he playing cos they know what they're getting off them it's great having all the ability and I understand listen, I understand the other side of it where you want to give players a chance of course we do you know I wanted Luchman to get a chance because he thought that was the right time that was definitely the right time shouldn't have been Bellassie you couldn't have exactly, he should have been in the side and that might have helped him I understand that, that was the moment especially you can come towards the January and we were fine and Bellassie couldn't have won that was in atrocious decisions and I understand that the lad decided then he wanted to go I never come back from that in these games in the next few weeks where it's you know we're still we're looking over our shoulder of course we are, we're the only three points exactly we can't be carrying people and it's up to this lad now to just look at it and go like you just said what do I need to do then what do I need to do his time might be February to May this season might not because ever might gain enough points between but ever might gain enough points between now and February that we can look in February and go another couple of wins and we'll be all right then you can start looking at, for all we know Antelotti might come in this week and Antelotti likes him in three weeks he might be the he might be the centre forward in three weeks Duncan is trying to get us points now because we're in the Mayer let's be honest we're not in the top four or five so we're in the Mayer someone said to me well Duncan's going to be in trouble for doing that I was like well who are you with he's like brands why Duncan's the manager he has to make decisions and Duncan you know what might be there today going I could have handled that a little bit better he might be what's the way it is isn't it I could have handled that a little bit better it's all in the moment he won't be in as much trouble as brands if we get relegated because brands have been changed brands have been changed we've bought these players and if these players aren't good enough to get us in the top six or seven questions will be asked of him so Duncan's doing the job at the moment and it's got us four points that are six and that's all we can we move on we move on we talked about a couple of young players there I think Mason Hallgate was actually moved into my field obviously he's brilliant wasn't he because he was so he's always been very talented at football I think we've always known that I think we've known that since the day he came always that question marks over his position centre back or right back I think I think he likes centre back we know he likes centre back more and you know some games like last week he was brilliant I think it's when he concentrates when he's fully concentrating on the game we see his best performances sometimes when he just he just takes his eye off the ball literally he can be caught out but certainly this week playing that in my field only having a few hours I don't the way you approach it it was brilliant because it was like it's like oof I'm going to be on the ball and he's been in this game and I want to do that and he did you know touches 43 shots 2 one on target I mean the other one nearly at the corner flag but we won't mention that successful passes 17 successful forward passes 7 successful attack on 3 passes 5 pass accuracy 74 recovery is 5 that's a big one that's a big one when you look at the forward passes obviously not just someone who sat in front of the back 4 no I mean you can't do when you're playing in a 4-4-2 falso for 4 cleansers 3 shots blocked 2 so to play in that role in a 4-4-2 where you can't really go missing alongside Tom Davis 2 young lads in the centre of my field at Old Trafford where ironically didn't he make a dairy for everything and a friendly he'd already played but he played him in a 3 and he's very good I just thought for a play he'd only had a few hours I just thought he was excellent yeah he was my man of the matter thought he was outstanding and he gave us a base to build front didn't he especially when you were looking the team and thinking it was going to be 3 at the back and all that for him to go and sit in that new field and go on the ball was competitive great in the air and got involved as much as he can I mean he had that shot out of the box which the higher she the cross shot which the higher had to push out in fact if you score from that no no no but that was really on wasn't it sorry which the higher ticked over so he got involved in the game he done a great job on the discipline was there and you know he got about the pit he really we know he's a good football he's good on the ball and he's becoming an important member of the team he is whether I be centre back to have a player that can play in three positions I think is really important but I think that's centre I think one thing he's suffered with is being the uncertainty the way we've mixed and matched and stuff to remain I think if he'd have been in under say like a moys, if he was here for a few or even partners if he was here for like three seasons he'd have developed up because he's been in a bit under Cumin and then out in the Allardykes Adam he went on loan and he's come back so I think he's suffered a little bit from a bit of uncertainty here ever but he's a good player and performances like that yesterday he'll just build his confidence up even more because I thought he enabled Keane to have a better game as well there was a bit more protection in front of him but he was outstanding and Dave was a top of brilliant in the middle of the park playing centre of my field it's not easy it's not an easy position to play it requires a lot of discipline finding the centre of my field following your runners and that's something you do a lot of the game just following your runners about because how many times we see a player coming in late we've seen the Tarleton do it last week against Chelsea play we've seen it against Norwich as well with them breaking through because when you watch it again you don't know if it's realised that it's gone deep and that's because of my field and I thought he did that for me yes he just added a little bit of protection in my field but on the ball he was great one way the ball comes on he should have just let it go to his legs and then got there before I held my breath but to him he's just like I can do this he's done this cross as well he likes to cross he's a good footballer I like him because he's got a bit of need he's one of the first I really like him the more we can keep him in our team I think he'll grow he's got that little bit of arrogance I believe he's got that little bit of arrogance arrogance off the pitch as well he doesn't like his dress sense does he as well the other thing but I think he's great to be honest I just find a place in our team for him that's it though he's playing alongside Tom in my field Tom obviously had the yellow card early on I think he went for the ball he went for the ball he went for the ball and got there he went for the ball he went for the ball he went for the ball he went for the ball he went for the ball but now he was really good Davis was good because he got the book and he was a bit silly and then he gave a couple of free kicks right now I was thinking he's not surviving because he's got to be disciplined but he was he then I don't know whether the coaching staff he'd probably done probably John Eddle maybe he was being in my field I had a way with him a half time because I was saying you can go and press without having to leave your foot in and still do your job and he did that second half he was great you see that my field of those two going there and you're like you've never played together they're both young lads anyway and I thought a wobby I thought a wobby had a good game and Duncan gave them a said after the game unbelievable the effort he put in he was everywhere one on everywhere he's for some for a small section of people he's become the new person to have a go at no matter what he does I find bizarre I thought last week he was as I said last week I thought last week he was in possession he was poor but because we were around but this week I just thought he did the job and he wasn't great going forward but I wasn't great going forward but as I said it was all about the shape this week it's all about the shape and trying to get the ball into areas where Charleston could do something with it and they did, they were brilliant I thought again I've seen quick kids that are more of a challenge of yesterday I don't think he played particularly well he wasn't a threat at all but he worked his socks off and what he does is cos he's a handful it means that they're unsettled a defence cos he is he doesn't leave you alone there was one in fact this defensive work was brilliant he got back and bundled through off the ball just pure strength and he had a good game and the tachan sense was bad he was normally involved a bit more do you know what I thought he did yesterday one he should have had a shot he was going on on one by second wasn't he and one by second did him a couple of times and it was like the challenge was there he couldn't leave it and if he had left it cos one by second is probably the best he's a brilliant tach he's a modern dig from me here let's get it right he's a modern dig but he won on ones he's brilliant he doesn't mind diving doesn't mind diving in the box and the challenge was a battle he done this against Wofford the challenge with one of their full backs in the cup game particularly he stuck himself out there and he was like now you took the ball off me now it's like now be clever leave him and go somewhere else it's a great attitude I think with one by second he could have used that to his advantage by almost sucking it in and then playing it off or just throwing a ball in the box but I thought I still thought him and Dom worked so hard so, so hard I thought Dom was brilliant and I did criticise Dom sometimes let's have a look at some of Dom's numbers he won shots three shots and tags see I think that's the most important one is that one and three he had six last week didn't even think he got four on targets so he's had a way from home today so one and three I think is what you should be looking at really and if you know and also like wham bysach y bydd gofyr i lwch also the goal you know when you look at the goal keeper and he gets I've got to look up at the green sometimes you'll get that sometimes you won't you know what I mean Sheffield is united at home I've said that loads of times though how many times do you see a ball going to the box and the keeper just catch it and you just think no pressure on him because sometimes you will get the look sometimes the ref yesterday looked at the goal and went you came out like that why should I give you any benefits you've come out like that you've come across and why should I protect you it hasn't gone in because of that the ball was over here anyway he wasn't getting there but it dons leaning on him and creating that uncertainty and that's what he's done in the last two games he's put himself about where defenders are like I'm not going to get an easy day to day and as soon as I get into the Vadi that's what Vadi created he started making it really uncomfortable for defenders and listen defenders are defenders for a reason it's because when they first start playing they're not as good as attackers it's the truth and they don't when they're on the ball and there's pressure they look great to get anything knocked above 60 half pass you've got a defender he runs over and puts some of the pressure are they still going to do up 60 half passes no they're not put it out or do something that gives you the ball back or allows you to get in a position where you can win it back the most important thing is putting doubt in a defender's mind that's what you have to do and I don't think he's done that enough for the last couple of games he has for himself about successful pass of 13 successful attacking third pass of 8 pass that goes to 65 but that one there it'll do us one again so that you're not needlessly kicking the ball away so you have got an out ball which is all we've asked for whether it would be a ball over the top or in winning the ball it gives you an out ball and then if your partner is closer to you you're getting on the end of that flesh crack if you're playing 4-4-2 again Duncan has a centre forward understanding the point of like if you have one up front and he's winning every other what's the point you've got to have someone buy him ok this pass accuracy is an amazing but Darryl's use 180 is brilliant far so for 3 header cleansers 2 again defensively successful dribbles the pass accuracy though as well will be including when he's flicking stuff off so sometimes it'll come off that table I think that might be the one where I was actually when we broke and he broke on the right but he chose to go up the left and recharging the space on the right you could get he was another one when we had Darryl he couldn't be hitting against the defender he was in he could have got it to him he got blocked he could have clipped it he was at 1-0 as well he'd have been in on goal for 2-0 he's come on the extra bounce obviously we know that he's criticised for not scoring enough goals we know that as well he's a handful and when people write them off he's not a champion to play he's a good Premier League can he be a great one only time will tell he's 22 but the more performances he puts in yesterday where he makes people uncomfortable other people even if he doesn't score other people will benefit from it we've seen it with the goal he could have been pulled up but like I said it was the same goal he went will pickfords gone like that so he's not going to get it it's the defender goes in we had the same thing and that's because he's made that jump he's gone and made himself big there was a couple he'd come from as the ball come he just run across and flicked it on ran after a couple of his own headers when you know someone's tackled in the air he put it into the mind but also when you're under the course as well there's nothing worse than when you're playing football and you're defending and it's coming back and it's coming back and you're watching your centre forward needlessly give the ball away when all you want them to do is just get up the pitch get up the pitch they scored when essentially they pull us under the coach for five to ten minutes and in the end it took a really good three and it went through a couple of legs and Pickford probably a little bit unsighted I still thought he could have got over quicker his feet movement maybe I'm not goalkeeping coach I was right in the corner I was right in the corner, it was a great finish proper strikers finish the kid green what he looks like he's got that little thing where you can just just find the space and then knows where the goal is and that's one of those things that you can do there but after they scored I was thinking of a 1-0 if they score they'll get two but once they scored it was also your start who took the game to them I thought we might nick it because we did be kind of I don't know whether it was dunco whether they just had the belief or they didn't have the belief I don't know but whatever it was then on and it didn't the hairs had to make a really good shave and we had a couple of corners that just didn't drop for us there was one they added against each other and they ricochied right to their player and you were like there's nothing that could have gone anywhere and we had the beans and the free kick you even said themselves to be far out didn't even over it but you're right we there was nothing when he put the border for four minutes and you're going oh god it was a good value for the point easily you know they had a lot of shots but pickfits the only real shave he made a good shave with free kick in the first half because he'd gone the wrong way and the loop show on was a great shave other than that I don't think they had a couple of dangled with one shot with back passes I don't really think they had much to do so that's good and they had loads like Freddits about 40 shots up into the stand so in all in all it was a really good point and when you consider the players we didn't have and the team we pulled out you go through that team Lucadine had to go off off the 15 minutes we said that he was missing Sigurdtson Gabamon, Delph, Gomez Snidel and Walcott there's eight faith teams Danes coming back into the team Mira coming back on team players what I like about it is that the players were playing I just I'm playing so therefore it's nothing like that don't you find it interesting though that he's been able to get such a reaction out of them in such a short space of time no I don't I don't fast because and the reason is because they just don't write the last fella no no no but I mean I genuinely mean that I think all the pieces I think in two games this fella shown how in it he was at doing the things like that like fitness and communication and understanding what it takes to get a reaction out of people and I think this one you can be a great coach and Silva might be a brilliant coach for all I know and the players might love his sessions but you know what because he didn't ask them to get fit and things like that and I think all things he's done is go back to an old school mentality which we've somehow gone away from because I don't know why we've gone away from it and all he said to the team is break hard and again I can't stress this enough and I've been criticised for this in the past but by being on the touch line and keeping them going and things like that taking your coat off and standing there in the freezing cold rain and basically being like you look over and you see him and people are like this fella, this fella look at him standing out there and he actually said afterwards he meant someone said oh you took your jacket off didn't I said I don't remember and that says a lot about him but I think that those little mental things that for him it might just be like might be anything might be anything to do with like being a man game to him it's just like I'm not feeling the cold I'm in the game and I think that's the thing with the boys keen sub people like I didn't even hug him or shake his hand he's watching the game, he's looking at the team he's keeping them focused and I think I think that's a big thing now I said this about silver about just sitting there and folding your arms and just when things are going wrong he doesn't he's in the game so I thought it was fantastic he's probably gone even better than he would have hoped he's come in performed and the team performed and he's got a reaction when you see him prowling on the touch line you're going to run listen he mightn't be listen he mightn't be the full time manager but I think what he's done is he's sent a message to whoever's going to get it if someone else does get it what is required what we react to and what he can offer as a motivator you know imagine a manager comes in and let's say it's Angelotti Angelotti sits there and just says Duncan get on the touch line he's not going to say lad is he he's the talent lid up he might go you go down there and you get the instructions out to them and I'll sit here and I'll come up with the master plan and if I have to make a sub I'll give the fella a hug but you go down there and you so the pressure's all off in terms of picking the team and all the rest of it but you grab then you inspire Angelotti looked a little bit and now he's celebrating the goal but Angelotti was a bit calmer this week as well so that's good because the more experience you get you can reserve that's hugely important I think that's hugely important for whoever comes in taps into that he'd be stupid not to chat again on Wednesday for the less the game and then you start looking at it to Arsenal and who could have a threat in the dugout he might be in a dugout one or the other on Saturday you never know anyway Diego let us know your thoughts in the comments do you agree or disagree on the moist game situation do you disagree everyone will perceive it differently so it's interesting to hear everyone's point of view isn't it it's the way it is isn't it happy with the point what about how do you rate this Christians jumper all of them there you go Everton have come up with a controversial I actually think that's more controversial than the sub they've come up with it haven't they you want to buy it the links in the description we get like we get like two pence and you get a tibet we go and do the link so there you go I don't know your thoughts in the comments don't forget to subscribe if you haven't already click the bell for a later you know exactly when Everton say Duncan's going to be in charge for the next game or whoever's going to be in charge and if you want more videos including the live at 5 phoning we're going to be doing over on patreon join us on patreon the link is in the description thanks for watching toffy tv see you later