 9th straight series when I know this technically doesn't end till August, but this series But how impressive is it with this team in this run? That we've played really well. I mean, there's no question And we've we've done in a lot of different ways With one games in a lot of different ways, you know tonight was was a battle I mean it was it was a heavyweight fight out there You know both sides were just really difficult to go through every out was hard earned You know we turn a couple huge double plays obviously there at the end of the game Which which has been something I feel like we've gotten a lot of big double plays this year in some certain situations. So Yeah, another another good one. What was the issue with Hermann that you saw in the fourth? You know, I just think they wore them down. I think they made it difficult on them You know, even when he's pitching well the first go around the first inning was tough. They just they I Mean they're they're really good hitters and they make you work and they they make you kind of use all your pitches and I think I think in a way it kind of wears you down and fatigues you a little bit and then I definitely felt like You know there in that fourth inning is you know, the pitch count was getting up there Just from all the work he had to do throughout that game. Nothing was easy You know, I think it warmed down a little bit having said that about the Red Sox hitters What about green getting into the second and third with one out in the fifth and working his way out of it? Yeah, it was huge I mean You know coming in in that spot and then giving us another inning and You know, we're able to kind of piece it together in a little bit of a different way But Greeny was huge and kind of bridging the gap to the back end And you know once once scary hit that home run then we could kind of roll them out to a degree But yeah, Greeny was big and being that bridge tonight Justin the right This one when you see what Gary had to do to hit that home run out. How impressive is that? he's yeah, I mean, I Don't think anyone out Looking at me right now surprised. I mean he's special special talent and You know tremendous power obviously and you know to kind of reach out and flick that out one-handed I think shows that and you know, he's obviously been huge for us So far this season and another giant hit for us tonight Dan How much does your mindset change at that point? I think it was after the home run You had Sessa up and then and then you went right instead of going to him You went straight to the your main guys. Yeah, you look at it Even that at that point of a game like I can finish this up. Yeah I want to yeah as soon as we're gonna we're gonna go assess if we're tied there and see You know, how long we could go with them But once we got the lead then we felt like, you know, we had a chance to really roll out our guys You know, Tommy ran into a little bit of trouble and just felt like we weren't gonna push Otto more than You know, he was gonna get ready for Martinez If it was the following inning then he would have pitched that inning But obviously with Martinez coming up in that situation That was the big spot and just as much as Otto's kind of worked over the last week That was gonna be it and then John Holder comes in and and Pitches are really clean and a big seventh for us to to get it to Britt and Chappy And what's the key for Chapman there to kind of settle things down after the rough beginning, you know Again, it gets back to he's he's got the ability to lean on his breaking ball a little bit now, you know And you know, I think obviously a lot of work for him of late to and So it might have been a little bit of fatigue there But when he gets out of sorts a little bit with his fastball he's got another pitch he can go to to kind of kind of settles them in and and and Corrects them and gets his command going again And obviously a couple big breaking balls to get the double play there and then the final out Thank you pass behind you I know we talked about this in the pregame a little bit But can you sustain, you know not getting, you know length from your starters over the the long haul? Obviously a real pen is great, but right I think we talked about the bullpen and what about the starting pitching? Yeah, I mean that's gonna be key over time You know to get some length and and confident we will you know, I mean, you know This is one of those series. That's that's can be a real grind and you got a kind of You know in a way we came in, you know having the rain out and you know those guys pretty well rested So, you know, we'll make sure we take care of them over the long haul There's no question about it, but and I think over the long haul We'll have patches where we start to get or weeks where we get good length out of our starting pitching and and we'll protect them anyone else there is Okay, or was that just the the late inning defense you've been doing? Yeah, he was You know, I probably would have gone to cam at some point there. Maybe not that early I just he got it right square on the elbow and that spot and I I Knew at the very least it would be something that would stiffen up on him if he stayed in for his next at bat So I just kind of made the cause like let's let's go get it treated go Let's go get ice on it and see if we can you know limit some of the residual effect that that can kind of linger on yet x-rays and was negative so But that's one of those just knowing as a hitter having gotten hit in that spot that it just can stiffen up on you and be Nuisance, so I just wanted one of them to get after it right away Dan the single the Glaber hit that he looked like he thought I was gonna leave. Did you talk to him about that at all? Yeah Mm-hmm. Did you take issue with with it? He handled it the right way we got a handle anyone else Okay, thank you