 When Lambe came, I was, I guess, just a scientist, never had a chance to really got to see him or anything like that. Not long after he arrived, one day he called me to his office. Okay, and then when I got in, then he said that there was a problem today. Your son Victor. Victor was about ten years old at the time, okay. He brought a fake gun to school, but he brought a real bullet to the international school. And the principal, I think, was not very happy about it. And I guess reported it to the director of administration. The director of administration reported to him. So he had to call me, right? So I said, oh my God, I mean, you know, how on earth could that happen? And I was a bit concerned. Why could Victor bring a real bullet? Where did he get it from? In my mind. Then I was a bit concerned. But then Lambe immediately said, you know, any boy at his age could do something like that. It's normal, don't worry and things like that. So I said, oh, okay. I mean, I hadn't talked to him before. I didn't know him or anything like that. So I said, oh, okay. Thank you. And then I left. Two days later, he called me again to his office. And I said to myself, oh, what did Victor do this time, okay. But I was wrong. He has nothing to do with Victor. He said, Erie was asked to do strategic planning. It was the first time Erie was supposed to do strategic planning. And he needed somebody to organize a group to be able to work on the strategic plan. And he would like for me to do it. And I said, maybe those two days, he dig out about who I was and what I was doing. After I saw him about Victor, I don't know, okay. But I didn't know from here to tell why he would ask that. So of course I said, oh, let me think about it, you know. And he said this would really take a lot of your time, you may not have time to do statistics. Now at that time I thought, oh yeah, he wanted me to get out of statistics. So he wanted to find a place for me somewhere. But then maybe because he saw me the other day and he went back and looked and said, maybe this is a good something. I don't know. I couldn't guess what it was. But I thought long and hard about it. And I went back a couple days later and told him that, okay, I would agree to do that as long as I still can't be in departments. This is why I didn't think I could, I know that I could do both. I mean, what is this? You hold meetings. You talk to people. You shouldn't take the whole day. And so he said, sure, sure, sure. Of course, not many years later he changes mind. But anyway, by then I know him very well already. So I must say that then we became close coworkers, I guess, as many people know that I work very closely. Probably the first DG that I ever worked with that closely. So I said, at least Victor was maybe responsible for bringing us together.