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Welcome to our 11 a.m. session of the April 13th 2021 meeting of the city council I have a few announcements, and then we will move on to our next to our meeting Today's meeting is being broadcast live on community television channel 25 and streaming on the city's website cityofstandacruz.com All council members are participating in this meeting remotely I want to thank the public for staying home to view today's city council meeting If you wish to comment on an item today call in at the beginning of the item If you're wanting to comment on using excuse me If you wish to comment on the item agenda item today call in at the beginning of the item You are wanting to comment on using the instructions on your screen Please mute your television or streaming device once you call in and listen through the phone Please note there is a delay in streaming So if you continue to listen on your television or streaming device You may miss your opportunity to speak When it is time for public comment press star nine on the phone on your phone to raise your hand When it is your time to speak during public comment You will hear an announcement that you have been unmuted The timer will then be set to two minutes. You may hang up once you have commented on your item of interest And I would like the clerk to please call the roll Thank you mayor council member Watkins Here I want to call you Johnson We'll move right into item number five on our agenda, which is the city manager recruitment update Our presenters today will be Lisa Murphy of the human resources Lisa is our human resources director. So I'll turn it over to her And we'll go go from there Good afternoon mayor council member. Thank you. I'm Lisa Murphy your human resources director I want to thank you for the opportunity for us to be able to provide you with this update today on a very important Process, it's our city manager recruitment process It's my pleasure to introduce to you to continue the presentation Terry black. She is our executive recruitment recruiter whose services we have obtained and she's highly Qualified and entrusted in this regard. She will take some time to review the process Including the community outreach effort our employee outreach efforts Our timeline and ultimately the target date for the council to approve a selection and appoint Later in the summer So with that, I would like to turn it over to miss terry black from terry black and company to go over the process I'm terry Thank you mayor members of the council very much appreciate your time this morning I know this is a very ambitious agenda day. So I will do my best to be concise Bonnie and laura. I'm going to try to share my screen and hopefully The slides will Up. All right. Lisa mentioned We are an experience firm and this is not our first engagement with Santa Cruz May I'm sorry to interrupt but terry this is on Presenter view. I don't know if you want to change it too. I'm not sure how to do that Stop sharing if you click on the display settings at the top there terry You may be able to switch screens or using two screens. I am Try the display settings at the top Swap presenter and slide deal. Yep. Did it go? Not yet For me, man It looks like it would be better if you want to stop your screen chair and restart it and just select the screen That you want to present Sorry, I'm so ready. Is that any difference? Can you see? That's it right there. Yep Okay, so it is not our first uh First engagement with Santa Cruz. We've done a few department heads and deputy director recruitment over the years So very privileged to to be back and Santa Cruz hasn't Gone through a city manager recruitment at least to the outside in a long long time and the market has Changed dramatically even in just the last few years with a number of the baby boomers retiring. We haven't all retired In fact, I was reading a study yesterday that indicated We haven't even felt the worst of the the silver tsunami And I think it's important that the the public and the council Have an appreciation for where the marketplace stands today because it's it's much different than it was Again, just just a few years ago. We're also starting to see the the older gen Xers began to retire and it no longer is A natural career ambition to be ascending to the top People are taking a lot of time and consideration to think about their careers and wanting more Balance and easier integration between work life and home life This sentiment was going on well before the pandemic. We were starting to see trends To that to that end and certainly with the pandemic and working from home Many people many would have would have been yesterday's potential candidates for a city manager spot I really take recalibrating taking giving themselves the luxury and permission to reconsider work life balance and What they really want to do for the next few years. So this reassessment of life Uh, the demographics overall are really impacting our our candidate pool even before the pandemic There was a study done in 2019 that said for public sector executives The candidate pool over the previous five years in 2019 have been reduced by 30 So it's even a little more difficult today. So this is a slide that kind of connotates Feel our pain as as recruiters But we not undaunted There hasn't been a recruitment. We haven't been successful and even through the pandemic. So and there are many wonderful things to to sell about Santa Cruz that we were we're hoping will attract a lot of exceptionally qualified candidates to To the recruitment. So we are right now in what we call launch prep mode For the month of april, we'll be having a lot of conversations with internal and external stakeholders And launching a couple of surveys. So with respect to our external stakeholders Within the next couple of days, maybe even today, we'll be launching the city will be launching its community survey efforts And there will be a web page on the city's website a page Dedicated exclusively to the city manager recruitment that'll be updated on a regular basis One of the first items the public will see there is a community link to a community survey three or four questions that ask essentially two big questions We're getting feedback on what people would like to see in the next city manager the qualities the leadership attributes to describe that perfect candidate as well as the priorities the those items those issues of matters that The survey taker would want the city manager to focus on during his or her first year On the job first few months on the job Those things that really need a lot of energy and attention or else the person isn't going to be successful In addition, a number of focus groups will be held. These are focus groups that will have participants Representing interests that are important to Santa Cruz the environment the business community DEI efforts service organizations use Wide range of focus groups. So they'll be happening over the next couple of weeks in addition There'll be a lot of internal focus on of course We'll be meeting one-on-one with council members getting their feedback on those two items Getting soliciting department heads. I think that has already happened And just as we're implementing a survey for the community There will be an employee survey to get that internal input and the input is used in a variety of ways First and foremost, it will help us create all the marketing and advertising materials that we use to attract candidates Secondly, and maybe most importantly, it will help us meeting the recruiters have Really informed educated rich conversations with potential candidates Candidates are especially the better candidates are more thoughtful about the jobs they apply for the very curious They have a lot of questions They can only do so much research online But they really we really spend a lot of time with a number of people as we try to gain interest and attract them into the pool In addition the input that that is Received early on in the process is used to inform all the interview questions And we use throughout the process many layers of interviews as well as it will help inform background and reference check so Variety of ways in which we use this this information We hope to open the recruitment by the end of this month. Maybe beginning of may It'll be open through the month of may we need at least four really good solid weeks Active aggressive recruiting where we're out there pounding the pavement trying to drum up interest From there at once the recruitment closes the recruiters do a paper screening of all the submission materials We're re-reviewing the the resumes as they come in But we do a deep dive and a thorough scrubbing of all the applicants once the recruitment closes Then we're conducting screening interviews and eventually That would be you know early mid june Bringing back a presentation and a detailed report to the city council on the results of the recruitment And the results the results in our assessment of the screening interviews And putting in the the council in a position to select their finalist By the middle middle of june the latter part of june the council's conducting final interviews And hopefully by the end of the month before they go on summer recess They'll be in a position to make their selection And we'll help the city with compensation Negotiations and while the council is on recess will Be doing the background and reference checking on the top candidate And right when the council comes back from their their break Uh, hopefully they're making the appointment and an official announcement about the new city manager The council will hear me throughout the process stress the importance of confidentiality It's our goal that our primary goal that we're bringing the the council as many fantastic Awesome candidates as possible So they have a rich array of choices before them and their decision is is really difficult because there's so many great candidates The only way we can do that is to preserve the confidentiality of the candidates As we as we move through the process So they'll hear there they will hear me talk about that A lot as we go because we're really trying to get and keep the very best candidates in the in the process Eyes on the prize at the end of the day So just a recap sort of a bird's eye view of the recruitment Right now in april we're in launch prep stage getting a lot of feedback On what people like to see in the next city manager as well as feedback on priorities May aggressive recruiting stage June is screening and final interviews and initial vetting of all that the top candidates And again while the council is on break we're doing further vetting background reference checking And hopefully putting the council in a position to Appoint their new city manager In early august So with that that concludes the presentation. Thank you Thank you terry and thank you for your Your thorough but yeah on time presentation today Um I just for the public's knowledge this is being brought again as a presentation regarding our city manager Recruitment process We have a few minutes for council members. I think if we could if people have one or two questions We've gained time back and I'm happy to have any questions if council has Questions for either terry or lisa at this time But I will stop any council questions questions at 11 40 just to Fit in our two proclamations on time Any questions from council members at this point? And for the public in the in the audience we do not actually take public comment on presentations just for clarification I see that council member brown has a question Thank you. Thanks for the presentation. I'm looking forward to talking with you one on or in Individuals conversations. I am just wondering I you mentioned the focus groups and I'm really glad that we've Kind of talked about incorporating that and that community there will be community involvement and input into the process And I know we just so the public knows for those listening council members have been asked to you know submit names and ideas for You know participants stakeholders to be involved in those focus groups So there that will be happening and I am wondering if Those will we get a list of who you're talking with in those focus groups with the council We may not have a big presentation about it, but can we get the information about who's Doing that and what that you know, I'm sure with the results. Maybe we could have a conversation then Great. Thank you. We'll send out the list and I will be sending out notifications and invites to individuals And we have always set dates for those virtual Focus group meetings. Great. Thank you Great Other questions by council members. Yeah, we were a question rich group here Okay, um, well terry. Thank you again And my understanding is that we will have all we will have a website sort of stood up lisa Can you remind us just publicly one more time when sort of the website goes live? Actually, I think it's going to go live sometime this afternoon We wanted to wait to have this presentation and we'll have the community surveys up and ready to go We'll have a press release to go out as well And then any updates that we have timelines documentations We'll we'll put those there and then we'll continue to push out our use a little bit heavily to help Continue to steer people towards the website And lisa will there be a direct link to where people can find that easily on our website? I know sometimes it comes in the news Scroll and I'm just wondering if there's an obvious link that could be built right from the first page or How how they find it? Do they go into city manager's office or kind of where does that land on our page if you try to look for it In two weeks from now, for example I would steer people. I believe Elizabeth is planning to do it through the human resources department But I will come from that just because it seems sort of typical to steer any type of recruitment information Towards human resources But I could take a check with Elizabeth and see what she thinks. She's she's the expert right right So that would be great Yeah, there's just in any press or anything that goes out as if we can have a link Yeah, just making sure people can find it because I know sometimes I've gone in and tried to find something And it can be a little bit hard once in a while with with the news scroll is is kind of moved past a few weeks Then sometimes you can lose track of it Got it. Thank you. Okay, great So thank you again, terry the city looks forward to working with you and we're really excited that You've done successful recruitment for the city before so thank you for joining us and we're thrilled to have you on On board thrilled to be here. Thank you so much. Have a great meeting. Okay. Thanks everybody Thanks everybody. Thank you Lisa Now we're ahead of schedule. I'm not quite sure what to do with all this extra time Um, so next up we will have a proclamation a mayoral proclamation declaring april 13th 2021 as retired war supervisor john bombachi day and mora, excuse me, um Bonnie I just want to see if john is available in the audience Yes, there he is John, I don't know if you want your camera on or off, but I have the feeling they'll be several comments huge this afternoon too. So, um I would like and very very, um, honored to present this mayor's proclamation And I will read it now whereas on october 4th 1982 john bombachi began his career with the city of san agus parks and recreation department As a wharf construction worker and was promoted to wharf supervisor on may 7th 2005 And whereas a member of the wharf construction crew john bombachi assisted with The wharf pedestrian improvements project which included the north and south commons Agora buildings and public spaces and expansion of the center walkway The construction of public landings one and two and the east walkway expansion project And whereas for more than a decade john bombachi was co-chair of the safe city safe safety committee and co-authored the safety and health appreciation program for employees Which was instrumental in reducing the city's workers compensation liability over the course of his chairmanship And whereas while working john bombachi earned a bachelor's degree in environmental studies from the university of california Santa Cruz where his thesis work provided the data and rationale for updating the resource recovery department's commercial and residential collection rates And earned him honors in the major and an award of excellence And whereas john bombachi's environmental focus carried forward to his collaborative work on the award-winning green wharf project Which brought the first led streetlight retrofit to the city and renewable energy to the wharf And whereas on november 7th Excuse me november 27th 2010 john bombachi was promoted to work wharf supervisor And in 2014 the worst centennial year He was a central hub for planning and execution of a season of celebrations That launched the wharf master plan and was the principal collaborator on the engineering report that accompanied it And whereas during his tenure john bombachi saw the wharf grow and change and he helped it remain vital and resilient And whereas john bombachi Is an astute observer of nature and steward important collaborations With the university of california Santa Cruz and the monterey bay national marine sanctuary to connect the wharf to marine biology On the wharf, excuse me to connect the public to marine biology on the wharf And whereas each halloween john bombachi sat enthusiastically in front of wharf Headquarters dressed in costume and passed out candy to trick-or-treaters And whereas john bombachi has served as the code go-to crooner in the parks and recreation department Always called upon to sing holiday tunes or dedicate a special song at a retirement celebration And whereas wharf supervisor john bombachi's last day of work was april 8th 2021 Concluding nearly four decades of service to the city of santa cruz and he will be sorely missed And whereas john bombachi's Innitable spirit and passion for all things wharf Will leave a lasting positive impact On santa cruz now therefore i donna miers mayor of the city of santa cruz do hereby proclaim april 13th 2021 as john bombachi day In the city of santa cruz and encourage all citizens and his co-workers To join me in expressing heartfelt appreciation for his years of dedicated and exemplary service And numerous contributions and wishing him well in his retirement Congratulations john, and um, I hope you might say a few words if you feel the need and i'm sure some council members Will also want to thank you for everything you've done I never wanted to go anywhere else fathom for some people how you could confine your career to uh To a half a mile. Thank you much so much john and i'll i think i'll make my comments real quick And then i'll turn it over to council members other council members. Um You're exactly right when you say the wharf is a living breathing thing when i worked for the um national marine sanctuary program my office was on the wharf and uh, that is exactly what it feels like when a 20-foot swell hits the wharf It literally, um, you feel like you're on a boat and the barometric pressure almost feels like you can't breathe It was um, it was one of the most exciting places to sit and spend my work day, but uh and then just uh, as you said it's It is that place that people um of all ages and everyone comes to to see the wharf and your stewardship of that Historic structure and our in our community is so appreciated and I also just want to recognize you too for your work with the cal's working group To try to get the to get cal's beach off the beach bummer's list. So john, we will miss you and Hopefully you'll come out and do some saining on the steelhead in the in the uh lagoon to keep that up too So i know that's another thing you've done which isn't part of the wear ads is but congratulations and um, just so happy for you. Um There we go. Okay You're hired member Watkins and then councilman brown coming in call and tarry johnson Well, good to know that you do i mean barbecue there john Oh, I love it I want to echo the comments that the mayor made and the appreciation of your years of service and I I guess I would just say it could all be so lucky that we feel destined at the end of our career That that's where we should be so I just want to congratulate you on your um, your experience professionally I also want to share that I was talking to a colleague of mine yesterday um about some work we're doing on cigarette cigarette butt waste and She brought up how she just learned that you were retiring and um wanted to acknowledge your work and and it's rachel kippin Emilio theodicy and she sent me some comments that I just want to share Um, she said john was always super friendly collaborative approachable and always made time for me and anyone in the community to Talk about the various work issues. He understood He was understanding of the diverse users of the war the importance of making the work A welcoming place to all and also preserving the environment But what I loved about working with john is that he always wanted to work towards solutions And I feel like that just really um captures those that have worked with you in our community in our city We're really lucky to have had you for as many years We've had you and we just wish you the absolute best in your retirement. So thank you so much It depends when you feel lucky to be in the right place. Yeah, I agree Wonderful beautiful. Thanks john council member brown Yeah, um john you you preempted my uh recommendation that we include in the the resolution and whereas Fombacius barbecue is Renowned throughout our community and probably beyond I uh, you know, I just wanted to say that I echo all of the comments that have been made You know your your love of the wharf and your commitment to making it accessible and You know keeping it going and improving it You know, sometimes it just has felt like the wharf is Standing as it is due to your sheer will and so I I just wanted to say, you know, I can't no words really can Describe the you know appreciation that that we have that I have for all the work you've done I have friends who've worked side by side with you and You know in wharf construction and and for you and just have always had such wonderful links to say about Your camaraderie and teamwork out there and um, so I hope you Decide that you know, I hope you go have some fun in your retirement and um, I was personally would love to see You write a book about Adventures on the wharf and in your experience. I'd love to see that and read that one day Thank you so much I'm I'm I'm I'm mulling that one over I'm thinking about how to not wind up like john steinberg. I'll keep it short But john, I just want to thank you as well for all your years of work and service on the wharf Um, so many people who come to our community Well, I'm gonna appreciate you know going out on the wharf and I think that it's you know One of the treasures of our community that makes it so special And you know, we wouldn't have it if it weren't for you and and all the people who you know Take so much pride and trying to maintain the wharf and you know, really helping to Keep that going for future generations to appreciate. So I just want to express how much You know, we appreciate all that your years of service and I look forward to you know Seeing you around and running into you out there and hearing some stories about the wharf along the way But the wharf is the only part of Santa Cruz that you can recognize from space Oh Great And councilmember colin tarry johnson I haven't had the pleasure to work with you directly But I've heard so much about you over the years and I just wanted to express my gratitude For all the work that you've done. Um, the wharf means a lot to our family It's a right of passage for my voice to have jumped off during junior guards and it's brought it's brought so much joy To so many kids and families and individuals. So I just want to thank you for all your work And I hope we cross paths Thank you so much john and Um, I'll miss seeing you out there in the occasional morning when you know wandering by in the morning So I really I think for everyone at the city everyone at parks and rec everyone We're going to miss you so you have big shoes to fill and uh, please don't be a stranger Come and fire up that barbecue anytime Yes, again john thank you. Enjoy your garden Okay, great. We have an additional proclamation to do today as well and I believe um, hailey jones. Hi there hailey. How are you? Welcome Thank you for having me. You betcha So today we're also i'm also presenting a proclamation Recognizing hailey jones Who's born and raised here in santa cruz and her amazing achievements in the past few weeks So hailey i'm going to read the proclamation and then happy to have uh, you say anything or you don't have to as well So, um, but I know that council is very excited for having you here today. So This is a mayor's proclamation recognizing whereas hailey jones who was born in her current hometown of santa cruz california Is the daughter of monique and patrick jones and has one brother cameron jones And whereas hailey jones first started playing basketball when she was five years old and whereas hailey jones father Played basketball at colorado college Brother plays basketball at pacific university in what in origan Cousin delicia milton jones is a two-time olympic and two-time FIBA world cup gold medalist and head coach at old dominion And uncle tyron james played football at clark university And whereas hailey jones attended archfish at minty Midi high school in san jose and was a member of its honor role each semester And whereas during her high school years hailey jones played four varsity Seasons of basketball and competed in track and field receiving a multitude of honors And whereas hailey jones was the number one recruit in her class and became a guard for the stanford cardin woman's basketball team And whereas hailey jones was named an ap All-american honorable mention this season, but saved her best play for the nc. Double a Tournament and then raised it even more in the final four And whereas hailey jones was one of two stanford players to make the all tournament team And whereas hailey jones has a special skill set and stanford coach terra vandevere compared her to former nba great urban magic johnson And whereas hailey jones is a team-oriented player and keeps all the pieces moving because of her court sense and unselfish play And whereas in her first two years at stanford hailey jones has produced amazing stats as well as received countless accolades And whereas on april 4th 2021 stanford won its first nc. Double a women's basketball championship in 29 years With hailey jones being named the tournament's most outstanding player after leading the team to the national championships stanford's win has Drawn a star studded receiving line from former cardinal tiger woods to our nation's political leaders And whereas in addition hailey jones participated in usa basketball winning a gold medal at the 2018 f i b a u 17 world cup And being named to the all star five And whereas hailey jones not when not playing basketball Enjoyed watching movies going to the beach cooking hiking and being with friends and family Now therefore i donna mires mayor of the city of santa cruz do hereby proclaim april 4th 2021 as hailey jones day in the city of santa cruz and encourage all citizens To join me and congratulating her for being named the most outstanding player of the 2021 nc. Double a tournament And wishing her all the best in her future endeavors Thank you hailey And i don't know if you would like to speak to us, but um, we are so proud of you and everything that you stand for Small girls in our community who are looking up to you as an idol right now and women women in sports need more recognition and that's Why i brought this because you have done an amazing thing and uh, we love stanford And we're just so happy for you. So please taley if you have some words to say and hailey's family is here today too Yeah, i just wanted to thank you guys. I could never imagine receiving an accolade like this or a whole day to myself Thank you so much for recognizing me and so happy to have my family here virtually at home I love you guys and you guys are my support system and i wouldn't be where i'm without you guys So i'm just thankful the city of Santa Cruz for being my hometown. I love Santa Cruz everything about it I'm proud to be from here. So yeah, just thank you so much and um, I look forward to april 4th every day every every year So thank you Congrats hailey Patrick or monique you guys uh You know have any anything to say today or just just recognize, you know Take some family to raise raise these these great people hailey and her brother and um And uh, yeah, I just if you have anything to say today, you're welcome to to make a few words and welcome camera and also I'm sure you're excited too Uh, do we just like to say thank you to the city of Santa Cruz and to the entire city council for Kind of making this happen. It was a surprise, you know to to be contacted by you guys and To have hailey honored like this and for all of us You know all the entire family has grown up in Santa Cruz and uh, you know, we really feel a part of the community here and so to have her Um excel the way she has but then also to be recognized, you know, this is uh It feels as good as as any other award that she's gotten local national or whatever And so um, it's just a really special day for us and we couldn't be prouder hailey. You're amazing I'll open it up to see if any other council members have any words this afternoon You're welcome to we have plenty of time. Uh, we're running right on time again. Any other council members have any things today to offer Uh, council member, uh walking I'm just cheering and just wanting to say congratulations Thank you mayor for bringing this forward and acknowledging that we need to acknowledge our local talent, but our women in sports Hailey, you made Santa Cruz super duper proud. You deserve a day and congrats to your entire family I was like, how old is she as you were reading the proclamation proclamation There's a million things you've already done and I know it's just getting started for you in your career so we wish you the absolute best and Look forward to having you back in Santa Cruz sometime soon But continue the good work that you're doing and congrats and council member coming and then vice mayor bruner Anyway, I just wanted to say congrats to you and your family on so many achievements So early in life I mean, it's going to be great to continue to watch you grow as a person So, you know, just know that we are you have a community behind you And just keep up the good work because um At this rate, you're going to continue to be an amazing person moving forward So thank you for all that you do. Thanks for making Santa Cruz proud and keep up the good work Thank you Vice mayor bruner So nice to meet you here Hailey and congratulations on this wonderful Achievement and all your hard work. So nice to meet your parents and your brother And we look forward to welcoming you welcoming you when you come home and um more to come on that we hope to um Continue to watch you grow keep shining your light. It's wonderful to see Uh a young beautiful black woman as yourself in in this wonderful achievement and working so hard. Thank you All right. Thank you so much excited to be home soon great Well, Hailey, thanks for joining us. I know you had to pop out of class and uh, just want to help Thank your mom too. She's been in contact with us. So I'm really glad this worked out and uh Go back to the drawing bird. I board. I heard you're sort of on the on the plane to go do some additional tryouts for the I believe the olympics. It's if I am correct. Is that right or team usa? Yeah, I fly out thursday to south carolina for a Team camp to try out for an america team in june. So yeah I believe it's great. Well, good luck and thank you again everybody and congratulations And congratulations to stanford as well. Thank you again. Okay And next up uh, we um, we're running a tiny bit early. Um, I'm just going to take a five minute break for our council members Get up the stretch and uh, and then we will be back At right at noon time if that works for everybody We'll be back at noon. Thank you A few announcements and then we will move on to our regular meeting Today's meeting is being broadcast live on community television channel 25 and streaming on the city's website cityofsancrews.com If you wish to comment on an agenda item today, instructions are provided on your screen We will provide these instructions throughout the meeting whenever we move into an agenda item that will be opened up for public comment Please note public comment is heard only on items council is taking action on And not regular updates and reports The items that will be open for public comment during today's meeting are numbers 10 through 37 on our agenda with the exception of item 16 I'd like to ask the council members if there are any statements of disqualification today I'd like to ask the city clerk administrator to announce any additions or deletions to the agenda today There are nice I'd like to make an amount announcement regarding oral communications today oral communications is an opportunity for members of the community to Speak to us on items that are not on the agenda oral communications will occur at or around 5 30 p.m. Today If you wish to make a comment during oral communications, please call in at 5 30 p.m. Today I will go ahead and ask the city attorney to provide a report on closed session, please Myers members of city council this morning the council met in closed session at 8 30 a.m. And Discuss the following items items one well item one was a conference of legal counsel concerning liability claims the claims of martin baserto and a claim by state farm insurance Those items are listed as item 17 on your consent calendar for this afternoon Item two with the conference with labor negotiators the council met with and gave instructions to its Negotiator hr director lisa murphy with respect to The following bargaining group seiu temporary employees The third item was a conference of legal counsel Concerning anticipated litigation and the council met with legal counsel and discussed two potential litigation items Item four was a conference with legal counsel involving Existing litigation and the case that was discussed is santa cruz homeless union at all Versus the city of santa cruz at all currently pending in the united states district court There was no reportable action this morning Thank you. Mr. Gundati. I'll now Turn it over for item number eight, which is the city manager's report And this will be regarding updates on the city's business covet 19 response and event Thank you, mayor. Um, got a couple of items to update the council on As uh, could have done regularly some coley items and then some other items. We'll start with uh First the river street the shelter closure We've been getting number of questions regarding that announcement and so i'd like to ask our Lee butler to just kind of give an update on on the status there To provide information to the public and then we'll move on to the covet 19 updates Thank you marquine As the council is aware the the river street shelter is a program of encompass In partnership with the county encompasses a nonprofit and it is not a city program The city was not involved in the decision to cease the shelter operations But the the city does have an interest in that for a number of reasons first off the city Owns the property on the coral street campus that has been leased to encompass for many years Or their fiscal agents for many years And they were operating it as a 34 bed shelter program for mental health patients of the county Given the coveted restraints that are currently in effect. It's my understanding that About 13 clients are currently at the shelter The the county and the city worked together last year to extend the lease until the end of june of this year And the city was aware that encompass was not planning to extend their lease beyond the current term at the end of june But we just recently learned that they would cease operations on may 1st staff was also aware of housing matters desire to explore moving into recuperative care center onto the city property at that River street shelter location And of course shelter for people experiencing homelessness is Greatly needed in the city of santa cruz, especially right now The city is in conversation with the county and housing matters about the future use of the space But at this point we've communicated that The priority use of the property is yet to be determined and that we have not initiated conversation with the council yet about that priority And that's the update on river street at this point Also, I did just you know, I did Talk to the monica martinius the executive director of Encompass who Noted that if the council members have any questions regarding The process or the operations there that does seem very happy to speak to you And provide you with additional information as needed. So just wanted to point that out So next I'd like to ask our fire chief to who attended the latest update on the covet to give an update on that And I've got a couple more items to highlight Heidi Welcome chief Mayor and city council. Uh, Jason. I do your fire chief. Um, so I'm going to present what I've been presenting the last few meetings And this is based on information from the state as well as from our local county and what you're seeing in front of you is the most up-to-date information for our county specifically and the good news is is that our Cases are dropping And the number of fatalities just remain relatively flat And you know, important to note here is that you know, the single largest source of transmission of covet is still person to person within a household So our cases are dropping which is good news, but we are still seeing some Of that next slide, please really what this is is it's the You know the the case rate for the number of new cases on a rolling average and again There's a precipitous drop toward the end of january into february and we're maintaining That low transmission rate our positivity number and that's some really good news But we need to continue to do the work to make sure that we keep those numbers slow You've seen in the rest of the u.s. There are some states that are starting to see surges and some other parts of the world in italy france, they're seeing larger numbers of You know transmission Next slide california covet and really what this is is i think this shows Lighted into the tunnel for us It shows the total number of cases within the state But it shows that that those cases are dropping Per hundred thousand and then there's a lag time and death and those numbers are also dropping And then the test the positivity rate those numbers are dropping They within the state there's been a total of 22 million or almost close to 23 million vaccines That have been distributed within the state and that number increases The number of people who have immunity and can't transmit or suffer really significant medical issues Um, you know, again, we're getting closer to the end of the tunnel that we've been in here Next slide this is from the uh backing dashboard It kind of repeats a lot of the numbers as far as the overall number of doses, but It specifically points out, um, this county of santa cruz. So there has been close to 192,000 vaccine doses distributed within the county And some of those are first first shots not necessarily, you know, the second shot But most of the information that has come out is after your first shot You do have a pretty significant immunity to To code and it's well transmitted transmitting You have to get that second shot because that's really what kicks your immune system into gear to Preventing, um, you know that serious illness There have been a number of cases where people have tested positive after being vaccinated But the good news is if you're locally at least those people have been asymptomatic So, uh, they're not suffering, uh, significant health issues If you look at the bottom dose here or bottom bar graph here It just shows that there's been a steady increase in the number of vaccines distributed by day by week And so we're slowly getting to that point where, um, our community as a whole is going to be much more safe And we're still within as frustrating as it has been Within the state of california within the 58 counties We are still in the top I think we're six out of 58. So we're the top 10 as far as a distribution of vaccines Per capita. Um, so that's the good news and those as the vaccines become more available They're ramping up those distribution efforts both through the county health office And then also also through their partners through pam dignity and they're expanding that out to Other places cbs and same point. So the availability of vaccines Is much more widespread than it was a month ago and they're also opening up the You know the qualification to to be vaccinated and that's going to expand significantly here in the next few weeks, I believe Next slide kind of gets to this thing. Uh, where where we are at currently we're in the orange here Um, and I don't have a crystal ball, but if I was Asked I would think that we given all the indicators I see us moving into the yellow chair in the near future And then also the governor announced that on june 15th california will fully reopen Its economy, but it's predicated on two really important considerations One equitable vaccine availability so that all people who want access to the vaccine have access to the vaccine And then the other one that's really the whole reason for you know Why we've done these restrictions and cheers and all this all these things that we've gone through Is that a low burden of disease and that is you know, our hospitalization rate people with significant long-term health issues And that vaccination will prevent that Currently our hospitalization rate here in the county is really low And that's good news. That means our hospitals are available for all those other issues that still occur And they're not necessarily being displaced by that covid You know those people who have covid so I see us moving into the yellow tier shortly. Um, and then uh, From a california whole perspective us moving toward a more sense of normal, which is really, you know Where we need to try and actively go toward Um, so more information will come out with that, but um, I think that's good news for all of us But we really have to meet those two criteria, which is vaccination availability and taking advantage of it And then monitoring what the impacts are within the health care system as a whole Next slide Much like my last update How to get a vaccine appointment because this has been an ongoing You know source of confusion. I think it's been really frustrating. You know, am I eligible? Where do I go to get this and I would point everyone to sanfruce health dot org They have a list of within their vaccination page of all the different mechanisms and who's available and how to access that who to call And then, you know, how do you sign up to get notified and that would be my turn, uh, california dot But locally for here in the county go to sanfruce health dot org And uh, the more uh vaccinations that we get into people the sooner we can get back to normal, which is um, you know You know one of my primary goals at the beginning of this for my department Was to get all all of us through this with as little impact as possible And I think we're getting to that point and um, I would also put that same goal to the entire community And that's going to be a combination of vaccines And if you go to the next slide Really, we need to Can go yeah, we need to continue what we've been doing that works vaccinations are the end point But in the short term, we know that doing those, um, basic measures of you know You know washing our hands keeping our distance You know stay home if you're sick and then wear a mask Even for those vaccinated, um, it's kind of one of those things where we don't know who's been vaccinated But if you're indoors for pro one period of time with somebody that would continue to do that really low impact measure Which is you know putting a mask on um, and we can get through to uh, you know Getting back to normal and being able to have gatherings and give hugs and see people It's been a long year, but I think we are getting closer to the end here Um, and that's what I have for you and I'm more than happy to answer any questions. Do you have them? Are there any council members? Vice mayor bruner Thank you for that information I'm wondering if there's any updates on In-person meetings And in regards to council meetings and if there's any projections on when that would happen You know, I'll defer to um Martin on this for a whole but I don't know that there's been any strict guidelines or guidance that's come out in How we go about that like at what point do we say we're okay, right? I do know that we've had conversations because that's an endpoint or our goal to getting back to normal Um, I see that if we do do this that there will probably be some modifications as far as masking or distancing Um, you know at what point do we you know move back toward that? But that has been a You know first the trigger point. What are the conditions? But we do know that we need to get back toward that yeah I would add that we aren't working on a a plan to How do we get back to uh to normal based on uh criteria and so we're currently actively working on that and the number of the organizations and cities throughout the state are as well So we're talking to each other to to figure that out and short that out It uh, I think a hundred percent back to normal. I think everybody recognizes this can be a little while still Although there will be some significant changes obviously as we go to move to the yellow and the green tiers But some of the things like the masking and some of the social distancing will continue And then also we have to evaluate how the pandemic has really impacted our operations And then maybe something that we will want to continue just because it's a It's just something that's just a new way of doing business. Uh, for example, we're looking at uh, some of the kind of working from home And doing more more hybrids of that than we've done perhaps in the past So that's something we're currently in the process of evaluating and working with the departments to put that forward And as soon as we have a plan, uh, we'll go bring that to council and give you an update on all that Great. Thank you Member Cummings, please Just briefly for the public. Um, can you just remind us the population of the county? Because it seems like we're we're more than about halfway through it sounds like a vaccinations to the county We are our county population is roughly about 260,000 people within the county. Um, and as you saw we've given For not we but there's been about 190,000 vaccines I distribute and some of those are first shots some of those are the complete two shots Some of those are the single shot series. So we are really getting to that tipping point of More than less and we're also mirroring what's happening within the state of california with I believe we have about 40 million people and 22 million vaccination doses have been distributed So, um We are getting closer to that. Um, and I don't have the exact breakdown for the city itself I can't get I can't get that information Um, but now it's not time to give up on those really easy measures as well as actively seeking out a vaccine When you become eligible Thank you. Thank you chief. I did good to see you Appreciate the update Martin is our other item. Yeah, a couple of quick items. I'll start by uh, just sharing my screen real quick Uh Actually, can you see my screen? It's the city's homepage. I wanted to just highlight a couple of things and using the homescreen to to guide the community one is the Related to the vaccinations. We have had a request for There's a need for volunteers at the community vaccination clinics And the one in particular that has asked for Volunteers there really need volunteers is the dignity Vaccination clinic, which is being held over at brand sporty middle school and The way to Volunteer is if you go on the city's main page here and go see at the top There's the city's response to covet 19 that'll take you to the city's covet 19 website and then at the top of that You'll see a link here to the dignity health dignity health medical group COVID-19 vaccine clinic and there it'll take you to a It's the Sign-up sites before the sign-up genius for that the clinic and it gives you Information on what's required and really there's no medical experience required. You just have to be 18 And it gives you all the information that you may need about what you can do They need people to help with directing traffic confirming appointments Handing out forms sanitization sanitizing surfaces and that sort of thing. So This is just something that there's a need to To do To assist the community. So I wanted to highlight that and then the other thing I wanted to To highlight is Going back to the city's homepage here There was a question earlier about the the survey for the city meander recruitment And it is can be found on the main page if you go to the main page and just scroll down a bit Under news, you'll see there's a link here to the The recruitment page For the city manager and that'll take you to the hr Page where you'll find all the information about the the status of the recruitment and how to link to the The survey and all that so I wanted to highlight that as well for the council and with that I'm Completed with the updates. I'm happy to answer any questions you may have. Thank you Thank you, martin and thank you for bringing up the dignity The need for volunteers. I've been volunteering at that clinic and Just the posting that people have done I was there yesterday and they're already getting more volunteers. So that's super helpful and So thank you for using our social media to be able to try to gather up some additional We definitely don't want to lose a vaccine clinic because of lack of volunteers So thanks for pointing that out. I really appreciate that And councilmember coming. Did you have additional questions brief questions one was related to the river street building? I was just curious They're moving forward with the use of that building Is there going to be a role of council or members of the public because I know it sounds like there's an interest from Housing matters and then I also, you know, hear from people know the need for more behavioral health and mental health beds and so really trying to meet the needs of the community So just curious about, you know, what that's going to look like moving forward in terms of how that building is used Martin go ahead I was going to say you can go ahead But basically, yes, the city is a landlord. We have a landlord role. We don't have a role in so far it's obviously operating programs or Or direct service provisions, but we are the land So there are discussions with respect to the use of that In conjunction with the county who's that largely be the funder of the various programs in housing matters who's an operator So those discussions are happening And we have a role in so far as again is the as the landlord aspect of that But again, we also have an interest overall in the provision of services And so we'll we'll have that and put it so I don't know if you want to add anything Look at that. All right. Just that the the council actually approves the lease Okay Thank you. And then the other question I had was related to COVID-19 I know that there's funding from the Most recent relief package that's coming through the states and going to cities and counties And I was just wondering if you could give an update on how much We're anticipated to receive and then is there any process or discussion around how that funding is going to be spent The the state or the federal The the most significant one That has been provided is from the federal that was from the the federal stimulus package just recently approved And we anticipate receiving about the 15 million in that Largely, um, it will likely and this will come back to the council in the budget process, but Largely, it'll it'll have to be Allocated towards trying to maintain retain essential services current services as we saw Revenue losses over 20 million dollars in our own budget So that will help with fiscal stability by his time to look at trying to address The projected fiscal year a budget for next year and really keep us from making, you know, severe cuts in next year's budget However, in addition, there is some CDBG related funding that will come that's additional or specifically for homeless services. And so we'll be looking at that to allocate that towards The provision of shelter facilities and perhaps with the implementation of whatever action the council takes as it relates to the temporary opera living ordinance or again the provision of sheltering and high needs for Assisting the homeless community. So those will be the those that come back to the council as well Thank you Thank you, martin. Any other questions? Sure martin Seeing any, okay. Okay. Thank you. Well, thank you sir very much Next, um, we'll move on to the city council. Um I'll call now on the clerk. Excuse me city clerk to provide any updates to our calendar There are no updates Great. Thank you Okay, next up is the Our consent agenda today and these are items 10 through 24 on our agenda For members of the public who are streaming this meeting now is the time to call in If you want to comment on items 10 through 24 Please note. We will not be discussing or taking comment on item 15 today Instructions are on your screen Please remember to mute your streaming device press star nine to raise your hand and listen for the q saying you have been unmuted All items will be acted upon in one motion unless an item is pulled by a council member for further discussion Are there any Council members who wish to comment on or pull any items and just a reminder for the public today We will not be taking action on item 15. That has been that will come before us on april 27 Uh, is there any council members who wish to pull comment or pull any item? I see council member call entire johnson pan Thank you. Just a comment on item 14 And council member coming comment on items numbers 13 well, I have a question for 13 a comment for 14 A question on 16. I'd like to pull number 18 A question on 13 a comment on 16 and A question on 16 and then pull 18 The council member brown all of mine have been covered. I I do want to comment on um on 16 as well and 18 so I'll do that one. The time is right Do you have a comment on 16 questions and comment? Yeah, just in comments. Okay, great Okay, okay So for our consent agenda item number 18 will be pulled today And now I will go ahead and ask for Questions or comments. I believe item 13 was pulled for a question or comment. Is that correct? council member coming Thank you, mayor I want to thank the general manager ego garvick from the catalyst for contacting us For all the work based on this item and for um, mayor mires and vice mayor brunner for helping to bring this forward I did have a comment. Maybe if um our economic development directors on the line There she is. Yep. Hi, bonnie. Welcome Good afternoon Good afternoon. I had some members of the public reach out And one thing they brought to mine is, you know, whether there might be a potential for the city through Some of its different funding sources to potentially um provide financial support for Some of the music venues in town that they might be able to pay back so similar to the loan program Or even maybe a grant program that could be created since they're going to be closed for so long And then knowing that, you know, as we reopen, there's going to be a lot of energy around getting back into concerts And so there might be an opportunity for those kinds of venues specifically those that have been, you know, shuttered for so long To give back and so just wanted to bring that question that I heard from the community forward to see You know, what opportunities might be available So we do have our newly expanded growth Santa Cruz loan program that's been funded with uh, the major $2.75 million loan from the economic development administration And that's going to be leveraged up to 4.5 million for the city of Santa Cruz Through existing sort of match with national development council The opportunity within that some major capital infrastructure loans of half a million and then smaller loans of around 50,000 and That is for working capital and so that is a potential for opportunity for live music music venues as well To apply for those funds and they'll have technical assistance in flying It's at the streamlined application and we have great support both with The small business development center who's going to provide some technical support and national development council So it's a really nice expansion of our existing growth Santa Cruz loan program That's a recovery expanded recovery effort So that's the main sort of funding that we have when we look at grants I mean the amount of funding is something we can explore But typically the amount of funding is it's fairly large per music venue And so unless council would like to direct the specific funding source towards that I think it might be a challenge for us to do Additional grant funds or a grant program specific to live in music venues But the loan program is up and running now. We're having a soft launch In the city because we already have an existing program that we're expanding and we expect to actually do some pretty extensive marketing countywide here within the next month Of the overall program and that opportunity Great. Thank you. And is that if we wanted to share information with People who are interested in contacting us is that through choose santa cruise dot com? Yes Yeah, and we'll be also putting out we'll post it on to choose santa cruise dot com And we'll also be doing pretty extensive marketing on that our existing program is there now And we're actually just finalizing some of the marketing materials this week and next week with National Development Council for that, but they can apply or inquire right now and we'll get them in the process Great. Thank you very much Thank you, bonnie Any other questions from council members on item 13 questions or comments? Okay, moving on. I'll go ahead and look for comments or questions on item number 14 Is that one call was yes, I mean cup. Yes. Go ahead council member calms sorry Johnson Thank you took me a moment to raise my hand Yeah, I wanted to thank mayor meyers and staff for supporting the resolution to acknowledge the holy Muslim holy month of ramadan this began yesterday evening and It commences for the rest of the month the next month and it's really a focus on spiritual renewal And reflection and it's a month of getting back to the community and and charity So I wanted to acknowledge that this month of ramadan has begun And I wanted to um to all of the muslim americans here in santa cruz And all the muslims beyond I wanted to say ramadan mobarak Thank you Thank you council member There was a question or comment on item number 16 as well I think that was pulled by council member coming Thank you mayor One thing to sit out to me with this is that um the funds that are coming back to the city We're supposed to be used for tenant relocation assistance And I know that when projects come forward oftentimes we hear that um, you know Tenants who are previously in some of these projects if they were displaced they get first right of refusal It sounds like these funds are supposed to be used for relocation assistance But there's a it seemed like a significant amount of funding that's left and so i'm just curious about Is there any information on you know, whether those tenants who were in who were displaced from that development whether they received The assistance and you kind of why there's so much funding left over Um if we were expecting this to go to help support those tenants Council member coming, let me um ask jessica duwit Do I believe is on this call to see if she has specific information? The information we did receive is that this is funding that was not used So it's our understanding that their their needs were addressed those that needed relocation assistance and benefits We're we're able to receive that but I don't have the specific breakdown So I see jessica's on so i'm going to defer to her to answer that question Yeah, so oftentimes so this funding originally came through the Enfield grant through state hcd So so they're making a you know a conservative estimate of what they think the relocation funds will be um My understanding from the property owner slash developer is that they they did meet the needs of the tenants that requested relocation assistance As to whether the the pot was too, you know too big originally You know, I'm I don't know the exact answer to that question But I do know that they did meet whoever asked for it or requested relocation assistance received it So now now the idea is this is a very uncommon situation. So, you know, it's not like this is going to happen every We have an affordable housing development But since this has happened In this uncommon situation the state is trying to now make sure Other folks who are low income in the community also Receives the benefit of this direct subsidy So that's why they're in the staff report directly references having directly to the the community not through a secondary service provider And and I will just add a council member becoming that um, there is states required had required noticing to all the tenants In the property and that did happen That was my next question. So thank you council member brown. Did you have a question on this item? Yeah, just to follow up, um, you know, I'm I um, I appreciate the explanation and I'm I'm glad that we're able to You know, keep this money in our community and use it for these purposes I'm really glad htd agreed to your proposal um, and I'm not quite so sanguine though about The role the developer played in actually providing You know relocation assistance because you know, I was involved in conversations with tenants there with legal aid with many um, you know different actors who were involved and it didn't seem like the developer was Doing their best to make sure this information was available. So How if they met the requirements? I understand that I don't believe that the tenants were Really under many of them did not really understand Um, what was gonna what was happening and what they could you know, what they could um Gatch to assist with their um displacement. Uh, so, you know, I'm just And I had a feeling Way back when when we were having this conversation about the tax credits, but I so given that I I just worry that You know, we're we're monitoring and I know we have a system for monitoring And the you know the affordability level for affordable housing units. And so I just wanted to ask You know, what where that what's the plan there? Um, and and just really stress that I think it's really very important that we watch this particular Development and for any potential violations because they they don't seem really inclined to Try to be helpful and you know, I mean, I I'm sorry to say that but that's just what happened So I I don't mean to you know critique The effort but it's it it happened. So I see Jessica maybe Yeah, I mean I can speak to the so the various funding sources that this developer developer applied for For instance, the affordable housing tax credits through the state as well as state hcd funding All of those have Requirements for monitoring for affordability. Um, and you know, this property should be Meeting the compliance on an annual basis that's double checked by the state um I need to check to see if we're I bonnie. I don't know if you if we gave the some money I don't think we I don't think there's any city money in this In this project. So technically They do need to to perform for the inclusionary So the city would be able to at least keep an eye on what's happening with the property and the compliance and Um, we can probably work with the state on trying to request Whatever reports they get, um, you know, we can ask for those as well Yeah, that would be really great. And I I don't imagine That it requires a motion, but if if we could just get if people think that's a good idea. I would love to see that happen when The time comes when the reporting happens that we get to see it as well Thank you councilmember and Is that a request to get like a Like an fyi regarding that or is uh, yeah fyi would be good. Okay. Great. Thanks. Thank you for that clarification Any other uh questions on item 16? Not seeing any Okay, okay. We are going to go ahead and move on to public comment on our consent agenda If there are members of the public that would like to speak to any item on the consent agenda with the exception of item number 18 Now it's the time to do so. Please press star nine on your phone to raise your hand When it is your time to speak you will hear an announcement that you have been unmuted The timer will then be set to two minutes and I see one item one One participant in the audience um, seeing you would like to Comment on or one of the items on on the consent agenda. Is that your intention? Looks like it. Okay. Um phone number 4294, please This would be on all items on the consent to any item on the consent agenda Aside from item 18 Go ahead, please. Can you hear me out there? We can yes Okay, great This is Nicole. Um, I'm calling. I'm the events and outreach coordinator for the Santa Cruz community farmers markets And I'm calling in support of the potential for additional funding for the market match double up program Um I want to start by just saying thank you to the city for your enormous support that's far um People are grateful and greatly impacted by this program which we started in may of 2020 hundreds If not over a thousand residents have participated at many farms are also Experience someone really significant boost economically from this program Prior to the market match incentive Use of ebt at the downtown farmers market So it's about 30 individuals participating weekly and after six months of their market match incentive program that number has Grown to 164 participants on average and at this point as of march of 2021 We had an average of 182 participants weekly. Um, so that number is still growing all the time and um that 182 participants represented almost nine thousand dollars Going into the pockets of residents for fresh fruits and veggies and then eventually into the hands of regional farms as well Since we began the program in May of last year The there's been $72,000 that have gone into the hands of residents for fresh fruits and veggies at the market And of the people participating in the program over 750 of them were first time participants in the ebt CalFresh program at the farmers market So, um, I just want to say one more thing Which is that I've been doing some a little bit of research and I found an interesting study out of colorado state university that showed that for every dollar Invested in a healthy food incentive program We can expect to see up to three dollars in economic activity generated as a result And so the program this market match Double-up program that you all have been supporting addresses food equity and food access for residents, but it also Has a um a big impact on the general economy in our city. So thank you very much and we hope to That you will consider continuing to find The program at the market Thank you so much Okay, I'm now looking for a motion on Our consent items 10 through 24 with the exception of item 18 To see who got there first. That would be council member Cummings followed by council member Watkins I'll move the consent with the exception of item number 13. Oh, sorry with the exception of item number 18 Okay council member Watkins, I'll second that Okay, so we have a motion by council member Cummings seconded by council member Watkins To move items 10 through 24 with the exception of item 18 on our consent agenda And could I ask for a roll call vote, please? council member Watkins, I Calentary Johnson brown I Cummings, it's mayor brunner. The motion passes unanimously We'll now move on to item number 18 on our consent agenda, which has been pulled and brian Organo our parking program manager If you would be available this is The item That we will be discussing under the consent agenda is the beach area parking meter rate ordinance updates And I believe council member Cummings. I believe you you Um Hold this would you like a presentation on this from staff or how do you want to proceed? um, I just have a A couple questions related to this item and related to some items that came before us in the past. I know that um Previously and and especially during co-in when we were making We were trying to prioritize the city's work given that many city staff unable to work because of the impacts of the pandemic We there was an item that we had been discussing related to Providing some of the funding from parking to go towards supporting the impacts to the beach flats community And I wanted to revisit that because um, I was contacted by a member of the public Because you know, they they see that the meter rates are you know going up and they were wondering, you know We had this discussion going on and we we stopped that for the purposes of the pandemic But a lot of people are still really concerned because the beach flats Unlike I think any other neighborhood in Santa Cruz only has one way in one way out and During the summer is probably one of the most heavily impacted neighborhoods in the city of Santa Cruz and it's the lowest income neighborhood in the city of Santa Cruz And so I just wanted to see You know, um, given that discussion that we had initiated kind of what are what are some opportunities for us to really think about how we can Provide some community benefits given that you know, the boardwalk brings in a lot of revenue The city is able to use some of the revenue from the parking in its general fund But yet you have this community that is severely impacted. I mean in the summer on a good weekend If you leave and as a resident if you leave the beach flats at 10 a.m. They're oftentimes where you cannot Get back in the neighborhood without sitting in traffic for over an hour until after 5 p.m And you know, given that it's our most our lowest income community. We face these impacts You know, I just wanted to bring up that Point of you know, how do we provide additional community impacts to this neighborhood? That's so negatively impacted by the traffic that we generate for revenue for the city So maybe what I what I'll do councilmember is Brian, would you like to just give an overview of the item? And that way we need everybody sort of acquainted and then maybe I believe the item is yeah regarding the meter rate ordinance But maybe there's comments or discussion about councilmember coming Questions after that. So Brian, are you prepared to with the power point or do you want to walk us through it? I know there is a two-page staff reports pretty straightforward But I just didn't know if you wanted to add anything any context to this or we want to jump into those specific questions presented Yeah, I don't I don't have a power point Presentation prepared for today, but I can share a map of the specific areas that we are talking about that affect the two ordinances for the two different rate structures To help orientate the rest of council Can you guys see my screen now? We can yes The two ordinance changes that are proposed Today for introduction are related to the beach meter areas and there's two different zones So in red we have rate one, which is a variable two hour rate and in the green we have rate two We we took action on this just a couple years ago to increase these rates And I think the same conversation that that Justin's bringing up was brought up then But we have certain thresholds of being able to adjust these within coastal commission Regulations without having to go for a full coastal development permit And so we're bringing this forward again for another 25 percent increase On these meters, which would bring the rate up to a base hourly rate of two dollars and 25 cents The conversation Isn't addressed in the staff report that Justin brings up in part because it's more of a budgetary question These revenues do go into the general fund And we would see an increase year over year in general fund revenues And I think that those additional conversations Um, could be continued during budget process times and you know the discussion of allocation of funds for particular projects Is something that can be handled every year during the budgetary process And so it's pretty straightforward in the staff report and pretty pretty straightforward today that what we're looking to do is Is give permission to implement another 25 increase in these two meter zones The residential neighborhoods also have a residential permit program in place that help protect them from some parking challenges And that still remains very affordable as far as an annual permit and we enforce Very heavily in the beach area to try to help protect the residents that are adjacent to these areas and discourage Parking behavior from impacting them You know continued every summer that we see as the beach is in attraction every year So if there's any other specific questions about the ordinance, I'd be happy to answer them or about Enforcement practices in the beach area and and the impacts of this ordinance change Thank you, brian I'll go ahead and open it up for additional councilmember questions at this time councilmember brown I yeah, thank you. I um, I read the report the agenda report. I understand the intention and it fully fits with our um, you know our our goals around, you know pricing for length of stay and All of this. So I you know, I that's not a concern for me I uh, I did have some of the same questions raised as councilmember Cummings and um, you know, so I guess I want to um, just Put in my voice of support for having that conversation when the time comes I do think that when it came up the first time around we had a pretty productive conversation about some of the things that beach lots residents experience related to parking and And just overall impacts and it does seem Worth a conversation to talk about how to target some of that funding to ameliorate those uh impact. So I When I'd love to have that conversation when we get there and then the other question I have is about the you know, so you've said you're um, you're in kind of in touch with the beach lots community and kind of tracking the effects related to parking and citations and permitting and all of that and so I'm I'm just wondering if we have any data on What that looks like? I know that I mean not right the second but is it would it be possible to try to get a handle on, you know How many tickets are being issued? Are they connected to the extent we can figure that out to any the The community the housing there Just to understand what you know, because of all of my Feedback is anecdotal, you know, I have friends who have lived in the beach lots over the years Some of whom have you know, kind of limited capacity to You know get information via the internet or you know connect with the city And they end up getting, you know tickets and toad and you know, they live there But they don't know what how to deal with it. And so I guess I just want to See if we can You know have that conversation in the future with some of that information attached to it just to You know, kind of help us understand where to go if anywhere Thank you Can I respond? Yeah for citation data we can provide some of the citation data And I know that there's you know, some additional traffic studies that talk about you know Impact in that corridor, especially during the summer season It would be hard to distinguish some citation data But we do you know, we track it separately for like say a permit violation with a resident And try to work with the with the residents that are impacted the most and respond to their complaints as much as possible They try to keep the the nature of the supply and demand, you know from spilling over into the neighborhoods I think it's always a challenge of finding the right balance. So some of that data does it does exist Thank you. Yeah, and I appreciate all of your efforts to try to manage this. It's a very difficult situation Councilmember Cummings Thank you, and I'll just echo what councilor brown said there's a way that we can get them No Or an FYI with that information I think it'll be great and then also if we might be able to get some kind of Some information about, you know, even potentially how much would it cost if we were if the city was to Provide parking passes free for beach flats residents I think it would just be a good thing to know because if it's a minimal amount Then it might be that we could provide that from our general fund to the residents here given that It's the lowest income community and highest impacted by traffic during the summer. So if we could get just some information You know per household or per address, you know, if we were to give each Each household in the beach flats a parking permit for the summer what that would cost Brian, is that work for you? You kind of got what kinds of questions would be answered in FYI Yes, I take some notes. I think I could help cover some of those additional questions from from both council number brown in Cummings Okay Any other questions on this item? Seeing none and I would look to come back to A motion for item number 18. That was mayor. We need public comment. Oh, I'm sorry. Thank you, Bonnie I'll go ahead and bring this out to the public. Um, this is for item number 18 on our consent agenda is there anyone in the Audience that would like to comment on this if you would Please press star nine on your phone to raise your hand I'm not seeing any hands at this time So I'll go ahead and bring it back to council and I would be looking for a motion on item number 18 I have council member Cummings I'll move now item number 18. I did have one final question. I know we've we've discussed, you know, potentially having some kind of discussion around um ways that we can Provide or identify benefits for the beach flats community. I'm just curious When would that be a good conversation to have or how we could make that conversation happen? I don't know if that's for the city manager or city staff as brian Planted out. You can have that discussed in this part of the budget process if the The consideration is to set aside funding for general fund revenues for particular Neighborhood or a particular purpose that would that would make sense in that regard. Thank you I have a motion by council member Cummings. Uh council member golder I'll talk about I have a motion by council member Cummings seconded by council member golder To approve item number 18 on our consent agenda and bonnie can we do a roll call vote, please? Yeah, I just want to confirm it to move Staff recommendation Sorry, yes Okay Council member Watkins. Hi Cummings vice mayor brunner Hi And mayor that motion passes unanimously. All right. I'm going to go ahead and uh Next up is our consent public hearing And then we have Going into general vent business. Um, I'm just looking Bonnie I believe we're Doing pretty well a little bit behind Um, okay. Yeah, let's go ahead and move into consent public hearings This is item number 25 and 26 on your on our agenda For members of the public who are streaming this meeting if this is an item you want to comment on Now is the time to call in using the instructions on your screen Are there any council members who wish to pull items 25 or 26? I'm not seeing any hands Okay, last last and then We will go ahead and look for a motion on these two items then Please we need public comment. Do we need to go? Okay Sorry, okay. So, okay. So we're going to go ahead and put this out for Public comment. So this is items number 25 and 26 on our agenda And this is on the consent public hearings part of our agenda And I am not seeing any hands So I will go ahead and look for a motion on our consent public hearings for item number 25 and 26 And I see council member Watkins I'll move our consent public hearings item 25 and 26 And council member golder I'll second that. Okay. We have a motion by council member Watkins and seconded by council member golder to approve items number 25 and 26 in our under our consent public hearings Although, um, can I please have a roll call vote? Council member Watkins Calentary Johnson I missed that Go ahead and get it Oh, I have a space mayor brunner Hi And mayor mires pass and pass excuse me that motion passes unanimously Uh, just for the public today, I just want to recognize the work of our staff on bringing forward the The ordinance on school district and employers sponsored housing inclusionary housing and I think that's Huge achievement for the city. So I really want to recognize our planning commission and our planning department and our of course Economic development department. I believe we're probably pretty close to one of the first cities in california likely to do this So, um, just something to be really proud of and thank you everyone for all your work on that really over the last year almost a year and a half Okay, um, we are running Pretty much on time. Um, we are a little bit behind. So, um, I had scheduled in a break here So that folks can get up to see how much get some lunch Um, I would like to try to get everybody One o'clock now. Why don't we come back at 125 and um, hopefully we'll get a we'll get a 25 minute break in here so for the public we are Going to take a break and the council will be back at 125 started For members of the poet we are now on agenda item number 27 the arts commission appointment For members of the public who are streaming this meeting If this is an item you want to comment on now is the time to call in using the instructions on your screen The order will be a presentation of the item by staff followed by questions from the council We will then take public comment and then return to council for deliberation and action And I believe bonny you are the present presenter I am Thank you, mayor. Um, council. I do know we normally Do a rotating we start with one council member and do nominations down the road, but Being in zoom, I think maybe mayor if you're a minute ball We could do just whoever has a nomination can raise their hands and any new nominations can raise their hands And then we'll do the vote Okay, sounds good and bonny. Can I just take the okay? We'll just yeah one by one 27 28 29 We'll do that. Okay. Great. Is there a motion from council members uh, regarding a member for our arts commission I think I see council member golder That's a nominate raw blister And I will second that nomination and So it's not a motion it's not a motion yet We're now just doing the nominations and then when we get in our nominees and we'll do a vote, but yeah, okay nomination for Blitzer down. Would you like to nominate someone and council member coming? No, okay. You're good. Any other council members with nominations? Yeah, and bonny. Do I you want me to call on each one separately then? I can go ahead and Yeah, I'll do a vote Um, so for nominee blitzer, um We'll do council member Watkins. I was going to go with car So should I say no or or actually elected? I'll do a roll call and you state your your vote So council member Watkins, you were going to go for car Yes Calentary Johnson Boulder What's her nice mayor brunner? And mayor mires We'll move on to sister cities Committee appointments and is there a council member that would like to make a nomination This uh council member coming I'd like to nominate here a park Council member brown. Did you have the same nomination? Yeah, okay great We have one nomination here a park unless there's any other council members with any other nominees It doesn't look like it. Okay. We'll go ahead and have a vote roll call vote Well, I think it's It's no other nominee You don't have to so we don't have to be more moralized it with a vote. Okay, and next up we have the equal employment opportunity committee appointment and I see for a commentary johnson Watkins and golder. I'd like to nominate alfredo one week Okay Council member Watkins. Did you have a nominee michael polhamas? Okay, okay. We have two nominees this time Why bonny you want to just have council members name their their uh preferred member council member watkins michael polhamas talentory johnson alfredo one week brown alfredo one week coming alfredo one week folder michael polhamas vice mayor brunner alfredo one week and mayor mires And I would vote for paul haman So we have a new member alfredo monnery so great Thank you council members and We will move on to item number 30 item number 30 is explore renaming locations and landmarks from london melton to london melton and I'm sorry we didn't open for public comment Any other yeah to item number 20 27 28 29 Is there any attendees that wanted to Apologies to the public I'm moving too fast today. I'm moving too fast today Okay, I'm not seeing anyone in the audience So we will move on to item number 30 now explore renaming locations and landmarks for loudon Nelson to london melton and accurately honoring and depicting the history of mr. Nelson For members of the public who are streaming this meeting If this is an item you want to comment on now is the time to call in using the instructions on your screen The order for the item will be a presentation By staff followed by questions from the council We will then take public comment and then return to council for deliberation and action If you're I'll remind folks how they can get into Public comment after we hear From the staff report and And we take questions from council So I'll go ahead and turn this over now to rachel kauffman our recreation superintendent. Welcome rachel. Thank you, mayor Myers. Good afternoon. Good afternoon. See council members. Can you hear me? Okay quick check perfect My name is rachel kauffman recreation superintendent with parks and recreation and today i'm bringing you a topic That has been long discussed in our city the recognition of local hero loudon or london melton and since The name of mr. Nelson is a key point of discussion just for clarity I'll refer to him as mr. Nelson moving forward in this presentation And joining his panelists today Is santa cruz equity project founder luna bay? local historian ross gibson Loudon melton community center supervisor isaeth ray And civic supervisor and city liaison to be a friend at the town clock jesse bond Included in the agenda packet as you have seen our many historical documents and articles Which both affirm the complex history of mr. Nelson's name And also show the community's struggle over time with how to accurately honor his contributions to the city From 1948 when a santa cruz chapter of the nwcp is described As being aware of the story of mr. Nelson and advocated for a monument to commemorate his life To 1978 and 1979 when lowell hunter advocated for the property on which the city school administrative buildings now stand To be named loudon melton plaza and the community center to be named loudon melton community center To 1984 when the group friends of loudon melton advocated to city council For the center and landmarks to be changed to london melton And were subsequently met by opposition by leaders in the black community who had fought for the original naming of the center To the present day when the black lives matter movement inspired a recent petition on change.org To correct the name of the center to london melton It's clear that how to accurately honor mr. Nelson's important contributions As a long history of its own and is what we'll be discussing again today But before moving forward, I just want to clarify what we're asking of city council today We're not asking you to make a decision on the name of the community center today We are just simply asking you to endorse the community's effort to continue to explore the renaming of locations and landmarks Honoring mr. Nelson and to direct the historic preservation commission to place an item on the may 19th agenda To discuss the name correction And so after the meeting with the historic preservation commission and we'll come back to council at that time for a recommendation So i'd like to start just with what inspired today's discussion In august of 2020 the loudon melton community center supervisor. I said ray received a petition By community member britney london and and yes, her name is britney london just coincidentally That she launched on change.org To rename the loudon melton community center the london melton community center And the petition received over 1,300 signatures from community members and is still active online Isis and I met with britney to discuss the petition and we reviewed historical documents that were kept at the center Considering the complex history, which I just described A small project team was assembled to discuss further the best next steps on how to proceed And the project team included petitioner britney london NAACP president brenda griffin city councilmember justin comings Santa Cruz equity project founder luna bay local historian ross gibson loudon melton community center supervisor. I said ray civic supervisor jesse bond and myself And in january and february 2021 the group held four meetings To discuss if and how to move forward with renaming Of locations and landmarks honoring mr. Nelson items discussed at these meetings included just review of historical evidence the opposition by the black community in 1984 The various locations where mr. Nelson is honored and what further efforts should be pursued to educate the community on mr. Nelson's legacy Unfortunately, britney is not able to be here on the zoom call today To describe her reasons for launching the petition as she just gave birth last week And i'm sure she's watching the presentation from home. Hi britney, uh, but at this At this time i'd like to introduce luna bay member of the project team To read a letter that was prepared by britney about her efforts So luna, i'll turn it over to you Thank you, rachel britney's letter says growing up in santa cruz the loudon elton center has always been an important cultural oasis My first summer camp that i attended at the age of six was at the loudon elton center From juneteenth events plays and friends birthday parties are just a few of the memories that are anchored to this building Over the course of the last year's pandemic I started a petition on why i believe the center deserves to have a name change And over 1,300 people who have signed a petition also agree with me The history that parallels with this land reflects the importance of black culture and its existence here in santa cruz As a black woman in santa cruz local I think it is beyond imperative that we have history that accurately reflects the name of one of our first black leaders We're better time to now not only to rename but to reclaim history My hopes are that this decision is unanimous and that we can honor mr. Nelson in the way it was intended to be from the very start britney london porter And i'll turn it back to you rachel And um first, you know, it's a before we're beginning that this this discussion It's important to talk about the contributions by mr. Nelson to the santa cruz school district And luna who just spoke has done extensive research on mr. Nelson's life So actually i'm going to swing it back over to her and she's going to share this history with you about these important contributions Thank you kim rachel um a first one to start By thanking you all for taking the time to uh to hear this. This is very exciting to be a part of um And i'll say it's clear now that if a school system was to shut down the entire city will go with it That's very clear right now Imagine what it was like in santa cruz where there was no highway 17 There were there was no highway one. There were no railroad There were people on wagons who made it down here to this little Enclave of of a town and if the school system in the 1800s was to shut down there would be no santa cruz And the school system was saved by the contributions of mr. Nelson Mr. Nelson was born enslaved in north carolina He was then trafficked to south carolina Where he was uh purchased and then taken to noxville tennessee in order to meet with mackey Nelson who trafficked him and marlboro nelson to california with the intention of having the mind gold for him Mr. Nelson and marlboro were able to accumulate enough wealth Where mr. Nelson was able to purchase his freedom which was no small feat and was able to travel All the way to santa cruz and to set up rent a piece of land and eventually purchase it to live out the rest of his life Marlboro could not stay with him as he was worth much more and did not have enough to purchase his freedom and likely went back To noxville tennessee with mackey, but mr. Nelson ended his life here And on his deathbed he left his entire fortune and everything he owned to the city of santa cruz to keep the schools open This was no small decision This action alone saved the city if the schools were to close now The city would go and the same thing happened then So considering such a contribution at the very least we can do is say his name correctly Say his name as he would have heard it Say his name as it was heard at pacific when people are buying his food and his fruit and getting near Their shoes fixed his name was london and he should be memorialized in honor of such Now i'm talking about you rachel Thank you luna As luna stated the contribution to the city is significant and many groups over time have looked to honor mr Nelson's generosity and support for education But the question does still remain on the name to use to honor his contributions and His name is both recorded as london and loud and nelson as well as um as you'll soon see other misspellings And so we're very lucky today to have to talk more about the various names of mr. Nelson and provide a background It's our local historian ross gibson Ross has recently published an article in the standard food sentinel about this very issue And so at this time i'm going to share my screen for some slides that ross is going to share with you Thank you rachel can everyone hear me Yes, we can thank you ross. Thanks for being here sure Bill reader did the original research on london nelson traveling throughout the south to collect documents that told part of the story And he showed that plantation owner william nelson Named his enslaved workers after english cities london cataberry moral burrow and cambridge At the sanacris county courthouse reader assembled around 50 documents half of which were copied a second time as a negative In an effort to read the difficult handwriting So in the 75 documents we learned That during nelson's life and shortly after his death All documents referred to him as london nelson as we can see in the upper half of this sampling Yet probate did not close until 1875 15 years after his death By which time most who knew him were gone or had forgotten Thus the written record became all the more important Yet poor penmanship can be read as either london or loudon And clerks definitely started to spell it loudon Next slide, please One of the probate documents was written by dr. William Slocum clerk of the probate court and editor of the sanacris news And he included a clipping of the newspaper probate notice which easily shows It is referring to the estate of london nelson Next slide This wasn't the only time that poor penmanship had changed his name Here we see his handwritten name has also been interpreted as Shannon nelson on a mining document london nelson on a deed linden nelson in one sentinel article And ludlow wilson in one surf article So with this wide variation of interpretation for his name How can we be sure his real name is london? Next slide This survey of sources shows all newspaper articles in 1860 and 1861 refer to him as london When they give his first name at all This corroborates the handwritten documents Yet after probate closed in 1875 the poor penmanship Evolved into deliberately spelling his name loudon Upon which the inscription of his tombstone was finally based when it was erected in 1876 Yet even with mission hill students honoring his legacy and tending a grave that once read of it read Loudon Teachers and historians continued to insist that his real name was london These include historian leon roland in articles and books And margaret coke in santa criss county parade of the past called him london nelson also known as loudon nelson Next slide Our group determined that his last will in testament Was the closest thing to the man himself confirming his name was london nelson I'll turn it back to rachel now Thank you ross And I just wanted to note here as well that Even in the markers That we have currently that honor mr. Nelson There is although for example the loudon nelson community center sign It is still loudon nelson community center Is representing the Question and that his name was actually london nelson on the sign itself There's a small notation that says in memory of london nelson 1800 to 1860 This is also cemetery. It is noted where you see on the gravestone marker It is loudon nelson, but in 2006 a placard was Added in front of the gravestone In which in parentheses That the writing is so small i have to zoom in here, but you can see it's loudon parentheses london nelson There's no explanation provided here On why the two names, but it was notated because we know there's this question And then as far as the other places that He is honored. There's a plaque at the city school administration building Um This monument where at the top it says an honor of loudon nelson 1800 to 1860 an ex slave who left his estate to santa crew schools He believes in education for all people And this we understand is the site two of the loudon nelson plaza Although there's no sign notating that's loudon nelson plaza and one of the historical documents I read That is included in your packet. It states that there was a sign, but it was burned by a fire Just so to orient yourselves This is the mission health school in 1972 on the property that we're now the city school administration offices lie and you can see the The wall the rock wall is really consistent in between both As referenced earlier In 1984 a group named friends of loudon nelson did advocate for the changing of the name of the loudon Nelson community center and loudon nelson plaza to london nelson Citing historical documentation that mr. Nelson's name was london and not loudon And according to santa crew's central article dated november 14th 1984 Santa Cruz school trustees agreed to change the name of loudon nelson plaza to london nelson plaza But only if city It's the city and county changed the name of the loudon nelson community center first at that time the center was jointly run by the city and the county in december 1984 A proposal was brought before santa crew city council by the group to rename the community center Members of the black community who had thought for the plaza and the center to be named after mr Nelson were opposed to the renaming A santa crew central newspaper article cited sentiment that local researchers and historians were not on hand When the work of naming the center was being done by black leaders and community activists in the 70s Also, he was known among the black community as loudon nelson And due to this opposition at the time the city council unanimously voted to keep the name loudon nelson community center The current project Team that's been working on this felt it important to attempt to contact people from that time to engage them in conversation As a second project team meeting ida johnson Attended to provide feedback as someone involved with the discussions at the time and familiar with the opposition Ida expressed the importance of making a decision based on solid historical evidence She was the only community member from the The only community member the group was able to identify that was living from that time that it came before city council in 1984 finally in taking of this question Once again, you know members of the current project team reviewed many documents including included in the agenda packet and the ones Shedded by ross gibson and based on this evidence Consensus was reached by the project team that mr. Nelson's name was london nelson And therefore the project team was bringing forth to you today We're asking for the that the sanace's city council endorsed the community's efforts to explore renaming locations landmarks honoring loudon nelson to london nelson And pursuant more accurate depiction of the history of mr. Nelson And explore further education efforts on his contributions to Santa Cruz Does the city council direct the historic preservation commission to place an item on the may 19th agenda to discuss the name correction and bring back a recommendation for city council to consider And just to note in terms of the city's health and all policies this item supports Strongly the health and all policies pillar of equity as we strive for historical accuracy mr. Nelson's achievements We emphasize the importance of community connectedness diverse representation and cultural life and a sense of belonging And so that concludes our presentation today and we are happy to answer any questions From city council members. It's time Thank you so much rachel and thank you to the members of the project team and the council member coming for bringing this forward I will go ahead and Open this up for uh questions from from council members at this time I am not seeing any council members with questions So i'll go ahead and take this out to public comment So for anyone for members of the audience who are interested in Uh discussing item number 30 Explore renaming locations and landmarks from from london nelson to london nelson and accurate Honoring accurately honoring and depicting the history of mr. Nelson Please press star night on your phone to raise your hand when it is your time to speak you will hear an announcement That you have been unmuted the time rule will then be set to two minutes And i am not seeing any members of the public at this point raising their hands. So i will bring it back for council Deliberation and again, this is a wood recommendation here is to endorse the community's effort to explore renaming locations and landmarks honoring loud loud nelson to london nelson And pursue a more accurate depiction of the history of mr. Nelson And explore further education efforts on his contributions to santa cruz And two to direct staff to the to the historic preservation commission to place an item on The may 19th agenda to discuss the name correction and bring back a recommendation for the city council to consider I see uh council member what? I just want to thank the committee members and um everyone for their time And and just the really thoughtful presentation as well as agenda report it was like kind of a trip down kind of just a complicated history and And I also really want to thank you and acknowledge just the importance of Having an accurate reflection of an individual who's had such a huge impact on our city And it deserves that due diligence to have that come forward in a way that's been informed by the community as well as history and so With a sincere appreciation. I'm happy to move the recommendation as presented in the agenda packet And and offer my sincere gratitude for your efforts and work on this Thank you council member. I have council. Uh, excuse me vice mayor bruner is up next I will second And I would like to say that I really appreciate the work the group did in over the past year with the meetings and The agenda report was a step in time including copies of microfilms and it was very Wonderful part of the agenda to dive into and read and thank you for that information and for bringing in the community as well as the history of Mr. Nelson mr. London Nelson. Yeah, thank you. Thank you vice mayor We have a motion on the floor. I'll go ahead and take additional comments from Council members council member voluntary johnson, please Yes, thank you. I'd like to echo the sentiments of my colleagues Thank you for the whole team and council member coming for being this forward I just wanted to note a letter that we got from from Um Two educators at shoreline middle school that was so touching the assignment that they Engaged their students with um, and they Wanted to further engage at least these two teachers from shoreline wanted to further engage so as we explore further education opportunities Perhaps we can take up their offer and engage our middle schools beyond shoreline to see what's possible Thank you Council member golder, please This is something I've been really excited that's been coming forward And I want to thank all the work that the group did and thank you to print me too for bringing that petition Forward and getting the community's attention on this issue. So thank you council member brown I just wanted to add my gratitude to all of you who have worked on this ross Eric Gibson for sharing and you know making the story accessible to us and and really really you know following the the um The efforts that have been made over time and you know kind of how this all fits into the current moment and um, I want to thank miss bay and miss london porter london porter, sorry For uh for bringing this to our attention. I just think this is an example of You know an effort that where community gets involved and we work together And you know find a way to you know make really positive things happen. And I think attention to the the really really critical and you know amazingly positive role that this You know former enslaved formerly enslaved african Made to our community. Uh, it's just wonderful to to see this happening now in this way and Thank you again for all of your efforts and thanks to the staff and council member coming For following through and you know working with the group on this Council member coming Thank you, mayor. I just wanted to thank uh, the community members in particular britney For starting that petition and then for engaging with our city staff and for I know there were a number of Council meetings last year with everything that was going on. She had mentioned during Oral communications the work that she had been doing and it was just really, you know, great to see this come forward and You know these meetings sometimes went on longer than they were supposed to and we'd be having two hour long conversations really kind of going back and forth over, you know understanding the history and It was a really great experience to see how we were able to Identify, you know, what what is proof and you know, what should be considered and how you know How we could put the story back together and I know luna Worked a lot with Ross and with jesse bond going over and he said going over, you know Documents where they had to pull out binders and does not the dust off and 75 different documents and kind of, you know, seeing when certain um Signatures were written and what documents made the most sense to represent. So it was really, you know, a big Effort and much of which was volunteer. And so I just really want to commend you all on A wonderful effort to pull this all together and I'm glad that you all allowed me to be a part of it Yeah, and I'll just close comments. Um It's just uh, it's so meaningful to honor this person with his real name, you know, and really really just set history right and And be able to teach people about how easy it is for someone's history to be changed because of someone's handwriting or um You know interpretation by someone sitting at a desk Whatever that may be whatever bias they may have had Um, I think it's just uh, it's such a cautionary tale of how quickly you can rewrite someone's real real being um, because the one thing we all have is the name and um, so I think you guys have Done more than just sort of rename or uh, you know Think about this as just, uh, you know renaming a community center or what have you um I hope that you have restored his dignity by giving back his real name So in your your your work has done more than just The immediate sort of impact and nomenclature in our town. It's really an honor to him And and really who he was so thank you luna and britney and justin and ross And rachel all of you um, it's a very very monumental thing and and really, um, so thank you for all your work Okay, we have a motion on the floor to um move the staff's recommendation which is to endorse the community's effort to explore renaming locations and landmarks honoring mr. Nelson mr. London Nelson And pursue a more accurate description of the history of mr. Nelson and explore further education efforts on his contributions to santa cruz And also direct staff to the historic preservation commission to place an item on the may 19th agenda To discuss the name correction and bring back a recommendation for the city council to consider So we have a motion on the floor to do that and I will ask for a roll call those Thank you mayor council members Watkins right Calentary johnson Brown And I just want to give one more shout out to bruce bratton who first taught me about this history and has been working to rename The center of row and so I enthusiastically. Thank you Coming Yep, thank you ice mayor brunner and mayor mires I That motion passes unanimously so we'll look forward to having this come back for a final vote and a final name change Thanks again everybody Thank you all item number 31 on our agenda. This is the 2021 peak season water supply assessment For members of the public who are streaming this meeting if this is an item you want to comment on Now is the time to call in using the instructions on your screen The order will be a presentation of the item by staff followed by questions from the council We will then take public comment and then return to the council for deliberation and action I'm going to turn this over to ben pink. He's an environmental projects analyst with our water department Welcome ben Hi, good afternoon. Can everyone hear me? Yes, we can Okay Good day to all of you council members and mayor Um, I'm going to go ahead and share my screen. Can everybody see this? Okay Um, thank you very much. I'm gonna, um, this is going to be a very different kind of presentation than the one that you were You just had, um, I'm going to be talking about the, uh, water supply outlook for water year 2021 This is a relatively brief presentation, but uh, this is the agenda. I'm going to go over, um, a little bit about the, uh The description of our water supply outlook and the model that we use and the timing of our forecast I'm going to cover, uh, a bunch of slides that talk about the the review of this year's water conditions Um, which will get us to a staff recommendation And, uh, hopefully have time for questions and discussion at the end April which is, um Marks basically the end of our wet season and it's the point in time where we evaluate our water supply Uh, the end of march is typically the end of the wet season and Uh, as we go into april, uh, april is kind of a transition month. Um, we can still get, uh Possibility of rain in april, but um as of right now, there's really no rain in the forecast So we can be, um fairly confident about our, um, you know, what we have What we've accumulated so far in terms of water storage and what what the outlook is going to be Um, so we're essentially talking about, um The peak season, um, what's going to happen Over the peak season may through the end of october and what will be left with, uh by the by the end of That peak season at the end of the water year At the end of uh, september in our water supply outlook, uh process We monitor and evaluate, uh, these items here, um, rainfall Uh, sam lorenzo river flow Uh reservoir storage and that is, um at our primary, uh, storage location of lock woman reservoir And we monitor the cumulative runoff on the sam lorenzo river, which, uh, produces a water year classification And I can tell you, uh, right now I'll get to this a little bit more later, but we're in the critically dry Water year classification So we have a water supply outlook model that takes into account those factors I just described As well as, uh, customer demand So how much water our customers are using As well as, uh, the hydrologic conditions in our in the sam lorenzo river and north coast streams relative to fish flows And that has to do with the commitments that we've made to provide water a certain amount of water for the environment and for fish species And we also, uh, incorporate the availability of other, uh, surface water and groundwater supplies Start going into a review of the water year conditions today In terms of, uh, cumulative rainfall Uh, when I put this graph together, uh, in late march, we were at, uh, just over 16 Inches, um And you can see how that compares to, uh previous water year As well as the long-term average um You know by the end of a typical of the of the water year for the long-term average we normally are at, um Around 31 inches And uh, thus far we've received, uh, you know a little over 16 That gives you a picture of, uh, rainfall Moving on to, um, monthly stream flow Uh, this is a measure of, um The stream flow in cubic feet per second measured at big trees on the sam lorenzo river And the blue the dark blue bars are the the long-term average And the, uh, lighter blue bars are the current water year Um, so you can see, uh, just how low Um relatively speaking our Uh river has been running this year and then when you, um sum up The overall discharge on the sam lorenzo river and you measure that in acre feet Um, this is the water year classification system. I was talking about and So what this chart shows is again the long-term average Which is this, um Blue, blue here It also shows, um A really wet year, which was 2019 It shows our current water year, which is down here Um, and when as of, uh, april first we were at A little over 11,000 acre feet And then the the purple, um Down here is water year 2014 and if you recall, um Water year 2014 was also critically dry. That was the last time we were in a Really serious drought condition So what you can see on this graph is that we're tracking, um Very much, uh on par with 2014 will probably Uh end the water year at the end of september somewhat higher than 2014 but still well within the critically dry category and then, um This is really one of the most, uh important outputs of the water supply Uh model that I was talking about so With the model we we we put together all of that information and we Come up with a projection Of where the reservoir will be at the end of the peak season um, we started, um We start the model, um Uh when I did the modeling with, uh One, uh percent of capacity And by the end of the water year we're projected to draw it down, uh the lake to approximately 58 percent Um That still represents a healthy amount of water. It's it's it represents Approximately 1.6 billion gallons worth but, uh drawing down the reservoir that much is something that, um starts to make us nervous And it starts to make us think think about well What happens if the next water year is also dry I'm going to show you a couple of slides now just to show you, uh some things that are going on in a larger context um, both in terms of uh projection of Of temperature over the next three months and also, uh conditions from the drought monitor page Um, so this this slide is a three month temperature outlook, uh produced by NOAA And it essentially shows you the probability of normal or below average or above average temperatures for the next three months and the The orange to red colors mean that there's a higher probability of above average temperatures And it's pretty much for All of the continental united states including, uh, california. So that's just saying, uh, there's a greater uh than likely uh probability that, um Temperatures will be above normal for the next three months and this was produced In mid-march you might be familiar with the drought monitor This is a, um university-related website that, um monitors drought conditions throughout the united states And this was just, um, updated, uh a week or so ago And the update, uh moved, um Parts of central california including, uh, Santa Cruz into the moderate, uh drought category So this just shows you, um, that we're not alone in terms of the dry conditions Uh many areas across california are experiencing, uh Some severity of drought and other cities who are also, you know, talking about different Possibilities of drought restrictions. It brings me to staff recommendation Which is, um Essentially based on the drop the the very dry conditions that we've had Um over this water year And with a with a very healthy amount of concern and, uh caution About what might happen for the next water year Uh, we're staff is recommending that we implement, uh stage one Of the newly updated water shortage contingency plan Which, uh, the council, uh, saw recently One is a targeted 10 percent reduction In demand, which represents, uh, 136 million gallons Uh, a 136 million gallon reduction over the entire peak season And again, that is, uh In order to conserve water In the event that water year 2022 is also dry I did not, uh, put any slides in here that describe kind of our Implementation and what a stage one really means for customers, but I'm happy to go into that if you like And that brings me to the end of my presentation and I'd be happy to entertain questions Thank you, Ben Situation we're in right now. Um, so thank you for that and for the information that you were provided in the context of Not only the decision we need to make today, but kind of the cautionary tale of what may be ahead in the next couple years So I will go ahead and open this up for council questions And I see, uh, vice mayor brunner and council member coming In that order Thank you and thank you for that presentation My questions If you could actually talk a little bit about the stage one water shortage My understanding is for example, there's Not the same penalty assessments as associated with stage two And and just what that stage one will involve And again, I think the staff recommendation was for a five month period May through october so what that would mean in our peak season? Okay, so, um, yeah, so our our our peak season, uh It was from beginning of may Uh, to the end of october So if we do in fact, uh declare the shortage, uh, the, um The project plan would kick in for that period of time and and any restrictions that are in the plan would cover that period of time So based on the the updated water shortage contingency plan, uh, stage one means, um Under our new system of resident of customer allotments Every residential water customer would give would be given a lot an allotment of 500 cubic feet 5 ccf and under stage one that is essentially an advisory allotment And there are no, um excess use penalties for going over that allotment However, um Our messaging and what we're asking of the community What we're asking of the community is that, um, everyone stick to those allotments Because that is really our our way of conserving water and meeting those reduction rules that are in the plan I'm happy to elaborate a little more if you'd like and again, I think, um, this may have come up in my discussion with rosemary The allotment of 5 ccf to water customers and You know, is it By household by meter, right that detail. I think it's important to know Right. So it's it's uh, it's by dwelling unit Basically, so if you're living in a triflex, for example, the allotment would be 15 If you have more than three people per household, you can, uh You know, you can make a requisition if you will for additional, uh water So that's a provision that we're, you know, working on getting in place so that those with, um With larger households can get additional allocations It does apply to across the board. There's, you know, different ways of working with different customer groups Based on what their needs are and some of the characteristics of the use patterns in the, you know, businesses versus residential There also is a quite a bit of a You know information that's going to be made available to help the customers take a look at their own individual use So kind of a water audit strategy for their household as well as, um, you know various strategies for looking at how that water, you know, how they could make reductions And the easiest way for them There will be no prohibitions except for water waste, which is always prohibited So that people couldn't use it if they want to water their outdoor You know areas instead of, you know Doing laundry That's up to them And what is the allocation for hotels? It's based on a 10 reduction off of their base year use, which I think in this case would be the last year For that we didn't have restrictions in places to be 2019 So, uh, in a lot of cases the businesses Will, uh, you know have to actually significantly increase their use from 2020 because of the covid restraints Um, and we would expect that there to be some kind of gradual increase in business use on the Based on reopening and that's really being provided for We're not terribly worried that businesses are gonna, you know, all of a sudden go way off the charts because I think there will be a kind of a gradual Reopening there, but it's 10 percent really across the board. It's applied in a different situation for different kinds of customers, but basically it's kind of a That's the strategy Irrigation to the extent that irrigation is happening whether it's a separate irrigation customers or You know people using Well, it's mainly to irrigation customers will be getting a 25 percent reduction And so we'll be working because that's the least valuable of all of the uses It's not to say it's not valuable, but it's in terms of the priority pecking order health and safety and economic Strategy are the more the things we prioritize more highly Okay Thank you so much Councilmember Cummings Thank you, mayor. Most of my questions were answered. I guess I just have I should restate that most of my questions were the same as What council member bernard or vice mayor bernard had so most of my questions were answered Um, but I did have one question around Communication so should people expect to receive a mailer or will the information just be posted on the city's website? Um, just how is this going to be communicated? Yeah Go ahead ben Okay. Yeah, um, I think that's a really good question and there's going to be a series of different communication strategies Yes, for sure. There will be additional web pages specifically devoted to Describing the allotments and the plan for different customer classes and those are being developed now There will also be a general Customer letter going out to all accounts Basically describing what the allotment is and what we're doing Um, and then there will be some more general communications Coming from the the water department in terms of social media And in our newsletter and things like that Great. Thank you. I have vice mayor Brunner question on the communications and I'm glad you brought up social media and other options because many renters don't ever see a water bill It's included in the rent and so that You know, there there are many ways of reaching customers As possible. I have councilmember colin tarry johnson next Thank you and thanks for this presentation just um to um pull that thread of the communications. Um, that was just brought up Um, I'm wondering if you can comment on how we will ensure cultural responsibility for our um Spanish speaking Community members and how we will outreach to them. They have similar questions on the next item Just what will we do to ensure that um our information is being communicated? Not only in Spanish, but in a culturally responsive manner Thank you So I just wanted to mention one of the things we've been working on since we sort of changed the structure of the restriction policy to This is how much you get and you can kind of use it however you want We do have lots of resources for our customers to you know, look at how they're using water and to make decisions And so we've created a product that's going to get posted on our website and that product has been Translated into Spanish or isn't it right now in the process being translated into Spanish We also have a number of folks in our customer service group who are Fluent in Spanish and can interact with customers in that language in the event that people call in with questions And we will definitely be you know making sure that additional language Translations and for materials and outreach will be happening to those those populations Can I add one more thing? We have a Software platform called water smart, which we're also going to be doing quite a bit of outreach on which is a a customer portal where Custom account holders and others who they assign Can log in to see their their water usage and there will be some Targeted information based on households profile Of what style house they have lot size Occupancy things like that So they'll get some targeted conservation messages as well as being able to see their water usage and their allotment So that's something that is going to be a really helpful tool this time around to manage water use and we'll be Doing fair amount of outreach to get people to go to that site and sign up There's no other council member with council members with questions. I see vice mayor bruner It's one quick follow-up to ben oftentimes Winters do not see that information. It doesn't trickle down. So just keeping that in mind as well Thank you One one of the things that we do with the schmoo review Which some of you are familiar with is that goes to the property as well as to the account holders So I think there I know because I've just seen the draft of the text of the The most, you know, the next one that's coming. It's going to be time to go to properties in the In this window when this is ramping up so That will definitely be a big method to you know, provide information and links to where people can go for more I had a question either for ben or rosemary What does next winter look like then as we move forward? So You know This winter obviously we got all the way to march before we really I mean and we hadn't I think the one storm Two-day storm in january So we are if we go into this the 10 percent the stage one The warning the shortage water shortage warning when When what what what would you be looking for to let the council know sort of that next Leap in stage whether that's yeah to and and maybe if the for the public to know that You know, you could technically potentially On conditions even skip stages. I would assume Oh, absolutely. Yeah, maybe just maybe just describe that a little bit for for the public that might be listening So I do want to just make a couple of comments about how we choose stages. It's not You know must start at one has to go to two It's what the right stage is relative to the to the situation in 2014 the recommendation the council came in february not in april to go to stage three from there wasn't even a restriction stage on in 2013 I don't believe and So it was it's based on the analysis that we do looking at, you know, how much has been storage We do a look do a first look at the end of Typically at the end of january and present that at the water commission in early february. So we're monitoring through the You know, historically the december january february been where the bulk of the rain has come Not so much of these days. It's kind of a little bit more spotty But we'll definitely be monitoring and in the event that we see another dry year coming through then we will be You know, we'll be doing the same kind of analysis We'll potentially be doing it and making a recommendation to the council earlier In the event that that's the thing that needs to happen We're also doing a lot of additional analysis right now looking at our our data sets and our Sort of analytical resources that we can see if we can create correlations between You know, what we're seeing in reservoir levels and what we might be seeing at the end of the particular water year where We're looking hard at how the sort of carryover storage that we like to keep in lachloman year over year For that next bad year is you know, should be changed based on what's how our demand characteristics have changed We'll have a lot lower total system demand now and The sort of billion gallons carryover storage goal was established when the demand was about almost You know, 40 percent higher than it is now. So is that a different is that a different thing? We ought to be doing so there's a lot going on to really Help us figure out, you know, what what do we need to be looking at? How bad a year do we need to? Care about and one interesting thing is that the years 87 88 89 90 which were four critically dry years in a row They were all over 20,000 acre feet. They weren't And those don't crash the system these days because demand is so much different from what it was in those years So we're we're placing and dicing and pulling the data apart really trying to understand What are the characteristics of it that critically dry years that we really really, you know, have to care about A year like 77 that the 76 and 2014 those are years that are really definitely In that you have to care about these We're we're looking at, you know, where those triggers are in some of the other years where we're still in critically dry But maybe not in that kind of really big emergency place That's helpful. Yeah, I I've read, you know, kind of this this concept of sort of we're in a kind of a You know Kind of a longer term drought that may have these these little bit of peaks and valleys, you know You know a mega drought, you know, that's been sort of documented in history of california and things like that I just I and I think about it because you know It would be good for maybe in our communications, you know And I'm not a communications expert, but you know people make decisions for example residents and homeowners who You know May go out and you know buy everything to start a big garden or something You know, I mean, I just think, you know, really under letting people know like We're not going to sort of walk through this We may jump from one to four or one to three and that, you know The acknowledgement of really this what I think is basically, you know, obviously climate change is here And so we You know being able to you know Just proactively really put that in that context of what people kind of how people need to think about water moving ahead is It's really helpful. I think for for folks. So they They're just thoughtful of that and it's easy to do because there's no rain coming Thank you. Um That was my only question and comment. Um, I'll go ahead and turn this back to Public and unless there's any other questions from council members at this time Okay, thank you. Ben and rosemary. It was great. Great. Uh and sobering presentation I will go ahead and turn this back to Or turn this over to any Public members who have joined us today If you are interested in commenting on this item number 31 the 2021 peak season water supply assessment, please Please press star nine on your phone to raise your hand at this time And I am not seeing any members of the public. So I will go ahead and turn this back to city council and this is a motion to approve a resolution declaring a stage one water shortage warning And I see vice mayor bruner I wanted to say I'm happy to move a motion declaring a stage one water shortage warning And wanted to uh, just comment that, you know, um I think this will really Send a message that, um We we can reduce and preserve our lock loman reserves and Really work as a community to Be careful with our water water supply. Thank you for your presentation and all your work Thank you, and I have member, uh, councilmember collin tarry johnson Thank you. Yeah, I can second that motion and just wanted to acknowledge all the work of thoughtful work that went into this and the forward thinking so that we can Um, avoid the crisis as much as possible Thank you So I have a motion, uh by Vice mayor bruner seconded by councilmember collin tarry johnson to approve, um Uh a resolution declaring a stage one water shortage warning And could I have a roll call vote, please? Councilmembers watkins I Calentary johnson golder vice mayor bruner I I That motion uh passes unanimously So we'll now go on to item number 32 and rose mary minard our water director will give us that presentation Item number 32 is amendments to municipal code chapter 1601 to align city code language with recently council adopted 2021 interim water shortage contingency plan For members of the public who are streaming this meeting If this is an item you want to comment on now is the time to call in using the instructions on your screen The order will be a presentation of the item by staff Followed by questions from the council We will then take public comment and then return to the council for deliberation in action So rosemary, I'll turn this over to you. Thank you mayor mires and um council members I just I don't have a formalized presentation. This is a A piece of business that follows on the action that you took at the end of February where you approved the change to the water shortage contingency plan The structure of the new plan is quite different from the old plan And there were major elements of the old plan that were codified in the municipal code And what we've done this go around is we stripped out all of that old language that isn't relevant anymore We've replaced Major sections of the that that content with A reference to an adopted Formally adopted plan that the council would make and and the state board does require a formal action for you to The state water resources control board requires a formal action for you to adopt a water shortage Contingency plan that includes notification What have you and then we retained in the doc in the municipal code the administrative enforcement penalty structures the water waste prohibitions and the reference those kinds of references appeals and exceptions In the muni code but have taken out all the sort of details So the action before you today is really a two-fold thing one of them is to approve the changes we've proposed to the muni code as an emergency ordinance because if we're going to implement the stage one Water shortage warning. We need to have those things in place basically starting tomorrow and then the second part is to go ahead and Introduce it as a first reading for the normal procedure Which would bring it back for a second reading at your next meeting and then there would be a 30 day window Where you know before it takes effect. So The city attorney advised us that this strategy was a good approach that gave us the tools that we need immediately To you know with these changes and then would also formalize the actual action on the the longer term changes And that's really the action before you today Thank you, rosemary I will look to see if there's any questions from council on this I'm not seeing any hands. I'll go ahead and put this out To the public to see if there's any questions from the public If you're interested in commenting on amendments to municipal code chapter 1601 to align city code language with the recently council adopted 2021 interim water shortage contingency plan Please press star nine on your phone to raise your hand at this time And I am not seeing any hands over on that side So I would look for a motion council member brown I'll go ahead and move The uh adoption of an emergency ordinance revising unicode chapter 16.01 As written in the staff report and to also introduce introduce for publication and ordinance revising The same unicode chapter For a first reading Thank you council member and council member boulder I'll second that Okay, we have a motion on the floor to adopt an emergency ordinance revising municipal code chapter 16.01 To align it with the provisions of the 2021 interim water shortage contingency plan And to direct staff to introduce for publication That ordinance, uh as its first reading I will ask for a roll call vote Council member Watkins I Calentari Johnson Coming Motion passes unanimously Okay, we'll move on to um Our agenda items number 33 34 35 and 36 Which is development charges and fees We are going to sort of treat these sort of as a group I believe and I want to clarify with The clerk When we are voting on these I'm assuming we'll have to take a vote on each one individually, but could you clarify that for me? Yeah, I I believe the intent is to have one presentation Sort of an umbrella presentation over all of them And then you would do a public comment On all of them at one time and we would have to do separate votes due to the separate Great, that's what I just wanted to make sure is clear to the public at that What we would do based on the um based on the presentation So this again is items number 33 through 36. We will have one group presentation And if you are interested in commenting on this item When the time is right you will receive I will announce that we will be going to public comment and I'll announce Additional direction then when you're if you would like to comment on this What we'll do first is have the presentation by the staff and then we'll have questions from council and then I will turn it out to public comment So I have a list here of presenters being rose mary minard our water director Steve wolffon wolffman associate civil engineer from public works in sarah the daily on principal management analysts with our planning department Welcome you guys Thank you. Good afternoon everybody. Can you hear me all right? Yes, fantastic. Okay, so I'll be controlling the slideshow for everybody today We are talking about development fees and thank you mayor for the introduction We are all here rosemary steve and myself Um rosemary is going to be covering the system development charges Steve will cover the sewer connection fee and then I'll go over the child care and public safety impact tree and kind of Start our intro and wrap it up towards the end So an agenda at a glance here. We do have four items So we wanted to make it ultra clear to you of how we'll go through this today Um, essentially the ask is for revision of two existing fees That's the system development charges and the sewer connection fee and we'll be considering the adoption of fee rates for child care And the public safety impact fee you may recall back in 2019 the ordinance for the child care impact fee was adopted But an implementing resolution never was that we have those rates for you today for your consideration as well For the benefit of of the public We're going to go over a bit of what you know fees fees all these different fee types. What is an impact fee? What is a service fee? Why we're updating and changing them and adding new ones And then go into some of the specific methodologies for each individual fee items 33 through 36 And then towards the end. I'll wrap it up with some Projects some models so to speak for you to see what these increases and decreases mean if you were looking at it from a project level You guys might be familiar with lots of fee names different taxes assessments property tax sales tax Different types of development fees dedication and lieu fees all sorts of things The ones we're talking about today are specific to impact fees a type of development fee and a service fee We'll get into that a little bit more here in a second So an impact fee is a one-time charge on new development The revenues that we generate from impact fees have to be spent on very specific things capital such as facilities equipment paratises and vehicles Impact fees are very special in the sense that when you're creating or establishing an impact fee And when for the long run maintenance of an impact fee, there's very specific state requirements that you have to follow In regards to the long-term maintenance of it. There's annual and five-year reporting Which is quite different from some of our other fee types And additionally, there's often a next to study involved that has helped establish A relationship between the fee between the fee being charged and what it's providing And you'll see that for our public safety child care And the system charges fees I want to say that impact fees are definitely not new Back in the 70s when prop 13 happened you would see a very large shift to impact fees Those were called first generation impact fees back then when the local agencies lost a lot of the funding sources due to prop 13 They started to rely on impact fees a lot more Now we're in the second generation so to speak of impact fees And it's the second generation impact fees that require these nexus studies making sure that Charges have a relationship and they're proportionate to the development and the impact of that development happening So just a little bit of history there. It's a very common and fees these days and And one will will see quite often A service fee has many names as well A user fee connection fees fees for service This will kind of help our conversation later as well when someone is applying for a building permit For example, we consider the fees associated with that fees for service The cost of these types of fees cannot exceed the services rendered So a lot of time the calculations for the studies relate to time studies or otherwise We'll talk about this for the sewer connection fee and then later on when I show you some project examples The service fee is what we'll be looking at as well. Why the new fees? Why the revision to fees? Very simply put it's about long-term fiscal sustainability Specifically to capital costs for future and the growth that's coming and impacting the need for Four facilities as well. I think that revenue diversity is important Listed here are a number of the types of fees that we've been somewhat discussing This column here number two You'll see that impact fees fall here as well as our user fees and connections We have already you know all these fees together play a role in providing local government Diverses operations and facilities And I think it's important that we are updating and making sure that the prongs of the stool So to speak of all those fee types are diverse and we're looking at the impacts of future growth as well as ongoing operations The revisions to fees are important Just to make sure that our models are sound that they're equitable That as things change as needs and the environment changes we start growing facilities Our models are being adjusted to reflect what's already done or perhaps new plans for the future That the council has determined the needs might be So with that we're going to jump into part two and start going through the different fee methodologies Rosemary let me know when you want me to move on Okay, I guess you can move on Okay water department has what's called the system development Charge employees have had one for a long time. It's also called a connection fee It's basically something that we updated in 2004 we updated again in 2015 and at that point there was a A direction to update that on a kind of a five-year basis going forward We do an analysis typically involving a use of a consultant that that takes a look at our whole sort of system And tries to make some decisions about how to structure the fee analysis What what you see here is that there are multiple ways that you can do this There's and and to some degree the choice of which way you do it is based on what your what your needs are For example, if you have a lot of capacity issues in your system If you're in an area that's growing very quickly And you're going to have to emphasize pipelines because you can't move this much water from here over this part of town To that part of town where it's needed That's a capacity issue and sometimes you'll change the way that people You develop the fees to specifically address that kind of problem You you can also do what we did which is shown in this blue box Which has to do with it's a buy-in so most of the people who are paying Rates or have developed things in the past have bought into the system They've invested in the system and new development coming in should pay their fair share So the equity buy-in strategy is the strategy that we used and specifically The one that we used and I think you can go to the next slide For this Is we made a decision to look at replacement cost minus depreciation And the reason that we did that is because many of our facilities are older But even though they have long lives A 50 year replacement cost for example depreciation schedule is Very common for major pipelines or certainly for something like a treatment plan So if you depreciate the value of your initial investment by 2 percent a year over 50 years at the end of the time Your investment is not worth anything But that doesn't really reflect what the cost is to replace it and i'll give you one example The cost of the grand hill water treatment plant when it was brought online in 1960 was 1.6 million dollars Those were the days if I could only just get a new grand hill water treatment plant for 1.6 million It would already be done It's it's price now is you know like two orders of magnitude higher than that so One of the things that happens when you fully depreciate your older assets Is that if you're doing your system development charge or connection fees Using those that calculus it doesn't reflect the real cost of what it's going to take to replace that So we use replacement cost and I think we can go to the next slide Sarah We use a replacement cost which in our case we've estimated During the work we've done over the last several years out of almost a billion dollars 929 million We subtract a number of years of our capital cost because that's going to get funded by ratepayers going forward So that gets subtracted out and also the debt that existed at the time this was done, which is about 32 million And that gives us a total asset value upon which to base our Question of the equity buy-in how much should people pay to come on to the system at about 410 million? Okay next slide please Sarah The the way we distribute that cost is really to do something that's called Equivalent meter units the capacity of a one-inch meter is not you know Twice of what a five-eighth inch meter is just like four times It's because of the amount of flow that can go through that pipe is at a one-inch size Substantially more that can go through a five-eighth So the um the strategy that we use is based on meter sizing The meter sizing for a particular facility is based on fixture counts that is done as part of the You know plan review that we do to decide how big of a meter is needed to serve that particular facility To make sure that there's adequate flow in the system if everybody's using their shower at the same time for example And then the other thing that we did in our in our particular processes We um we eliminated the per multifamily unit or per single room occupancy unit Charge that had been used for a long time and just switched over Completely to meter size as we would have used in for something like a a hotel Example, okay. Do you want to go to the next slide please? So this this gives you a sense of how many Equivalent meter units we have and here's the here's the capacity ratios again, you know, this five-eighth is kind of the standard It's the most we obviously have the most of those in the system But you can take the the sort of total flow that would go to all of these other meter sizes and you get a number That's just 36,773 based on you know 10-inch meter doesn't have you know, it has 210 times more capacity than a and that's how you get to this We don't have very many of these in these systems. This is UCSC basically But they get that jump and that's how we do this one more slide please So we take the net asset value of the replacement cost minus its appreciation and we divide by that total number of Meter equivalent meter units and we get the base cost for a single family meter and if you go one more Think you'll see what our proposed our recommended cost structure is Using the the most recent update that we've done so We are actually recommending decreases in all of the fees and the elimination of the of the per meter charges, which also when you see the Examples that there is going to show you at the end you'll see the impact that that has particularly on multi-family development and those things were done specifically to help support the The affordability the goals that the council has for more housing more affordable housing We've been hearing from our the developers about the concerns related to some of this And so it's been a way that we've been able to you know Look at what we need from this particular buy and do something that's fair and equitable But yet reduces the total sort of cost of connection to the water system I will say that The system development charges aren't a very big part of our total annual revenue. They have they have been You know, maybe in the one to three million over Many years, which when you consider the total amount of revenue that we need to produce to operate the system and do the capital Is not a very big part of what what is getting produced here But the other thing is that Santa Cruz has largely built out So the that fact means that it wouldn't be expected to be a large part of the total revenue And I think pretty much with that sarah. I'm I'm finished here. So I think this next goes to to steve Happy to take questions along the way or you know, we can wait till the end. So whichever works City council members and members of the public My name is Steve Wolfman. I'm the senior civil engineer the public works department and Look over a little bit about what the sewer connection fee is all about plan and The connection fee is basically Is like we is how I like to think of it We're already connected to the system the operation of the system, but more importantly It pays for the construction can go to the next slide And so our treatment plant using The cost of what it costs to today's dollars. We depreciate it as you May or may not know our treatment plant is fairly new It was built in the Mostly in the 90s. It was obviously it was built way further Back than that in the 20s originally, but we've done major upgrades 60 million dollar projects 40 million dollar projects 20 million dollar projects at the treatment plant over the last 30 years And although we do have major improvements that will be coming in the future the treatment plant Those future Upgrades or improvements will be paid for by the new customer. So We are just looking at what the present worth of the treatment plant is The next slide is Goes to the collection system Which is similar It's a little it's a little harder to gauge what the present worth is But we do have a fairly good records of the age of the different pipelines We know what it costs in today's dollars to replace Calculate what the system is worth going to come in and you're going to be using Uh, a portion of that calculate what your buy in cost is minimal to what we uh, what we rations and construction And what we need to receive What we've received in our one um component of it is that We determine that feed pretty much and just to this new fee being how many Apartments or how many single-family homes are being filled your department has changed it to the water meter residential and for commercial The public works department is going to follow that example. We believe it does give a better Remember the word we're using the water meter Size even though it's from wastewater, but we take into account How that relationship is between a water meter and actually sewage generation So it's a little bit tricky there, but as you can see the Actually a little bit more than double For a lot of the commercial users with the exception of your multi-unit Uh construction projects and in that case The rate will actually decrease somewhat significantly for larger residential projects I think that's it You want to see me okay on speakerphone or should I switch to my okay, so thank you So i'll be talking to you guys about child care and public and the public safety impact fee So just as a reminder again, we've adopted an ordinance for child care But we do have some revisions in front of you for that as well as the implementing Resolution is here and we'll be discussing the rates, but we actually are asking to adopt that on 4 27 Same goes for child public safety Resolution will be adopted on 4 27 so we can really dive in and look at any changes you guys would like to see before then So let's see here So the child care impact fee So this fee would be used to pay for new developments fair share of child care facilities in the city of santa cruz The methodology for this study is actually done by the county of santa cruz who has this impact fee already And they brought on kaiser marston and associates of people being back in 2018 The nice part of that next study is that the county looked at child care needs and how the needs crosses jurisdictional boundaries For example people who live in the county may be working in the city of santa cruz and dropping their kids off to child care facilities here and vice versa and so the the purpose of their next study was really to also allow Incorporated jurisdictions to use the next study to set their own child care impact fees And so that's what you've seen. Yeah, that's what you see that set the rates for ours We also updated the data based on city data From similar resources to account for child care numbers within the city limits And kaiser marston looked at what that demand is and non-residential residential development looked at Child care demand by type whether that was a child care center or family child care homes And they sent looked at the cost to develop such facilities and and homes and then recommended a fee range based on that amount It's important to note that for both the next study the fee range is the maximum allowable amount So that's the top of the scale a fee can be adopted from any range up to that number These were the fees based on that study and with the updated city data So you can see single family and multifamily residential In communicating with some of the developers about these fees over the last couple of years Their response and concern has been essentially death by a thousand cuts is kind of the common term That was just a number of fees that they're charged. We'll see a little bit more of that later So to compromise a bit there We are recommending a graduated fee schedule for both child care and public safety Copy that from the county. They did that for child care as well. And we hope that that reduces some of the initial Changes there to note here for multifamily That's a bit different from the next study for public safety Is that the single family residential rate the 56 cents cost that was analyzed The county took made the decision to set multifamily residential at a rate lower Then just lower than what the single family cost would be and we've done the same We've essentially taken 75 percent of the cost for single family and made that the multifamily charge For the multifamily unit So just as a note there that is different in public safety. We'll go over that then Another piece that you guys have to consider about child care today is not only the discussion of the rates that we're setting But how those funds will be managed So again, the county has a loan awards program for their child care fees already established They've done it for many years if you recall from the 2019 staff report. I recommended a range of options One being putting the work completely on ourselves All control for us and then the end of that scale being completely Putting the county run with it in their program After doing a little bit more research on about child care and child care facilities and reading about the county's program more I've refined that recommendation to alternative three in this report And the big difference there is the inclusion of a facility plan In looking at the demand of child care and how and the county's expertise in understanding child care needs I think it would be a good idea To explore child care demands specifically for the city Understand where the children are what age what parents what areas of our city What facilities do we currently have to potentially leverage partnerships for those existing facilities schools Child care homes, whatever it may be And look at that holistically as well through other policies like, you know The health and all policies potentially and how we maybe put child care in a place that maybe reduces traffic All sorts of things that I think that the facility plan Can really address there as well at policy design and implementation if we were to Adopt the county's program and have them use their system to do our annual loan awards I would spoke with finance and accounting and they had a number of really great questions As you know when you are looking at policy implementation and design they can feed each other And they had a number of accounting questions that is making me ask for maybe some additional time To explore that with them in regards to how funds are distributed how we track loan awards And how that that works on a real basis And additionally talk with the county to really see how we can incorporate some of the work with them And to address those this alt 3 Identifies the need for a written agreement to once we figure out what the best approach is Clearly identify those expectations So for example, if you guys do decide to use the county's existing program where they continue to run loan award programs They continue to do their own workshops and have their annual application committee review applications Then we can clearly put in a written agreement where we expect the council To hear about those applications how the council would like to see those applications and when And how maybe finance wants to see any annual written reports in regards to the accounting of those funds So I feel like the written agreement is a good middle ground compromise to Reduce adding additional workload to ourselves to the best of our ability and relying on the county for their expertise for child care So those are the two main things of alternative three I'm going to jump into the public safety impact fee now So the public safety impact fee The charges here will be used for again capital. It's an impact fee So we focused on facilities apparatuses vehicles and equipment for both fire and police All the things that are required for them to run their operations Whether that's emergency preparedness or emergency response The methodology here is a hybrid of an existing service standard as well as a plan piece approach So when I say level of service, it's it's all our existing fire and police facilities It's not like, you know, if a new development gets a call then we only send one truck to go to that brand new development It's serving everybody all vehicles. Whatever vehicle is available to respond. That's the vehicle that goes So with that we decided to use the level of service approach That identifies the current replacement costs of all our existing facilities for fire and police related apparatuses vehicles and equipment We allocated that in an incremental way on Showing what do we have now? What would growth be and then an incremental increase to maintain our existing level of service and establish How many additional square feet of facility will we need to accommodate for new growth? How many new vehicles how many new apparatuses and so with those costs put together That essentially establishes the rates that i'm about to show you It's important to note that a lot of the costs that we use the estimates were quite low Specifically the replacement costs for construction. We use six hundred and thirty dollars per square feet for fire In reality, some of the closer fire facilities around us are at a price of about a thousand dollars per square foot But we wanted to be conservative So we use the lower rate there Additionally for a lot of the vehicles we used our original purchase costs Some of them are were purchased quite a while ago And so the vehicle costs are probably a lot on the lower side because we use similar replacement costs of this Because of based on the purchase cost we had them from back then So conservatives On those parts. This is the fee schedule. Again, you'll see three year graduated approach The fire program fee section as well as the police section And when I talked told you earlier about the difference with multifamily So we actually did a cost allocation based on the number of persons per multifamily unit. So these costs here for Police and fire actually show higher for multifamily in both cases based on the analysis that we used We did not like with childcare due 75 of the single family Um, again, when we do these nexus settings, these are the maximum rates that we can adopt A range of them anything lower is at the council's pleasure Well, let's see here I do want to take a note. Um, just because of the public comments received for the exemptions in this section Um, especially about affordable housing Originally, we have not put that in the ordinance Because as I was looking at a lot of other public safety impact fees quite a few jurisdictions did not include affordable units as exempt And so I I chatted about that with police and fire to get their thoughts And and they agreed and I agreed that because of the demand to multifamily residential that they did not initially want to see that exempted Additionally, considering that fire and police facilities are a direct cost to the city on like, you know, child care facilities And we thought it was important to have that conversation and leave it out in the beginning It's important to note that with with these impact fees if you do exempt fees of any kind we cannot later go back and say We under collected here. So we need to raise the raise. You can't do that. We cannot address the deficiencies So just to know there for your consideration. I do. I have some examples for you So just a little point of fact there. This is an old study. It looked at 1999 cost pay to play in a California housing And per residential unit it was Buried from jurisdiction to jurisdiction from 4,000 to 60,000 And I think those costs vary based on council priorities and council needs. Some people have public safety impact fees Some don't so that's a lot of the varying range Um, an average per unit was about 24,325 And when you look at what that means for us Here are some examples of projects now the cost you're looking at here includes the service fees that we talked about earlier So for these particular projects, it includes the planning application and going through the advisory body process If the item had to go to planning commission, for example It includes the building permit fees as well for review intake and issuance of permits that includes traffic green building all sorts of things So we have these before and after prices per unit and you can see for multifamily it's going down when you start to look at smaller non accessory dwelling unit structures ADUs are exempt Throughout both of these then you do start to see a small increase in this case It was about 400 dollars for quite a large addition to a single family home A large reduction for multifamily development. That is what I have And i'll bring it back to you mayor bring questions. Thank you very much sarah and rosemary and fees great Great presentation great powerpoint. Love the graphic Um So I will go ahead and um look to council member questions regarding this Um, and I see that we have council member golder council member Cummings and vice mayor bruner as the first three Thank you again for the presentation. That was great and rosemary I just wanted you to share with everybody since it wasn't in the powerpoint Something that shocked me like the average meter size for a single family Residential was a lot smaller than I thought. Oh, yeah 5 8 5 8 inch that's a standard meter size It That's actually the smallest standard meter size that exists in the industry But I would suggest to you that if they were making them new based on today's uh Kind of demand patterns and you know what what we're using water for in a home might even be smaller But that's pretty much the standard minimum size Residential consumption has gone down dramatically in the last since the 1992 changes to the um fixture standards Through the plumbing code billing code changes Thank you And I just wanted to clarify so my second thing that I was wondering just because we had talked a lot about Kind of this infill idea of turning single family homes into duplexes and triplexes and things like that So those would be underneath the one to 120 or would those be under the single family? Well, it it sort of depends based on what's happening with the unit I was actually talking to sarah earlier today about an existing building that was getting divided up into a camera If it was two four plexes or Two or two plexes and two duplexes. Yeah, sorry So if you don't require any kind of upgrade to the meter size based on Fixed your counts and how the water is going to be used wouldn't change at all So it's only an increment So for example, if we if we had a five eighth inch meter in the facility and we needed to go to a one inch Just to provide the additional, you know flow in the event that we have now two Dwelling units and that There would be that incremental cost associated with it as opposed to About brand new start from scratch costs. And so for some of these fees, you wouldn't not not every Permit you pull would trigger these fees. It would just be specific to Like you'll see you're getting it. So it would just be substantial remodels for new construction Yeah And then many remodels doesn't trigger water or sewer changes at all Next I have council member coming Thank you for that presentation. I was um Curious, I know uh, you mentioned the That we're not currently exempting affordable housing from this But I was just and I guess that's kind of a side note to this question that I have What I noticed with the end of fee structure so for You know the difference in the fees for residential multi-family, but then when you look at Retail office industrial In hotel it's substantially lower for hotel. And so I was just curious Why that's the case? I my assumption is that you know hotel's help bringing revenue. So therefore, you know, the bringing in What tax revenue we want to make it easier for them and make the cost of hotels lower And and I guess another comment there is that it doesn't always Sometimes you make things lower and and businesses that doesn't mean it always comes back into the community because it could just lead to higher prices for Rooms which goes to profit rather than you know making it more affordable for people use hotels and then Also kind of linked to that is that you know with affordable housing I understand that so for example for public safety in particular that There are calls to People who live in those units, but it's so difficult in the state of california to build housing And so I know that we're Constantly trying to figure out ways to make it easier to build affordable housing in the state and it seems like this might be A mechanism and in addition to that for hotels. I mean when tourists come in That's a bigger burden on police officers and our public safety So it might actually make sense that the fee will be higher for the hotels rather than lower So I guess ultimately my question is really trying to understand The difference in the fee structure for what appears to be commercial use and why it's so low For hotels versus the other types of commercial use Yes, thank you. Councilmember. I mean, that's a really great question It actually has to do with the type of methodology that we've used and the densities per employee so on one of those pages there would have to look to bring it up but The impact of a resident employee number one it was assumed that A residential impact is the total of one and an employee is half of that That's further broken down in hotels density per employee is a thousand core feet in the study a larger number And so that's what made the fee outcome lower versus The per foot is required for someone for an office type employee So it's really the methodology that we use that makes that look lower And it would be something that I recommend when this fee is updated nexus fees should be looked at regularly That a consultant brought on board can look at those a little bit in more detail, especially that hotel connection I did bring it up to Our consultant who helped us a bit Diving in the method to use and she actually brought that one up as well as something that we should review and dive into later Because of the points that you've just made For now it's based on methodology. That's the rate that has been justified No question of that later on would we like so for example If we do a follow-up study later on and I guess if we do a follow-up study later on i'm just wondering if there might be an opportunity to increase Those fees for hotels which would then allow for us to exempt affordable housing So the idea being that you know, if there's people like The use that comes with hotels is much greater than any individual business I would imagine because during peak season you're going to have high turnover people are constantly using water versus, you know Some other commercial use And just the need for us to figure out how we can make it more affordable for affordable housing to get built if we can use that as Kind of an exemption so Just a thought for us to consider maybe moving forward because it seems like The rate for hotels is so low compared to all the other uses that It might make sense to increase that and use it to to create exemptions for affordable housing Um, I wonder if I could if we could ask, um, I think that bonnie lips comes on and um I think that it might be useful to put the affordability waiver question Kind of a little bit front and center here Bonnie might you be able to respond to what are the terms and conditions under which? A developer can apply for the affordability waiver for affordable housing for some of these fees Affordable housing projects under our current ordinance can ask the city and it comes to the city council for consideration for a waiver of fees Um, it does trigger prevailing wage You know for the project and the majority of affordable housing projects are going to be paying that anyway because they're receiving You know their state and federal funding sources. So generally that's less of an issue Um, but it is ultimately up to the city council of whether or not they grant those fees Historically our general practice has been for affordable housing projects That at least in the last I would say 10 10 to 15 years that we Try to uh cover or have reduced fees so that we do cover the cost of delivery of the services But for some of the discretionary fees, we recommend those being waived all subject to council consideration and I would just add um that the Code section that specifically allows for exemptions of affordable housing projects and And fees associated with those affordable housing projects It calls out fire fees. Um, it does not call out police fees and so if the council was interested in providing an opportunity for projects to be exempt from the public safety impact fee In the future then a revision to that separate code section, which is actually in 24.16 of the zoning ordinance separate for many of the sections that you're talking about today That would be a good location for it If you wanted that to be a a discretionary action and not something that was exempted across the board And state law also requires an administrative section in our ordinances for fee adjustments and waivers Just as a case by case if the applicant feels that there is no nexus or connection Then there's also that as well And just one last comment on the affordable housing fees is also in past practice, particularly when we had redevelopment What we often did was backfill using redevelopment funds for affordable housing projects the related city fees So that the individual affordable projects and developers didn't incur those costs that we did make As those costs are real and the fees are real. We did pay those on behalf of the project Thanks. Yeah, we great if there's you know opportunities to Continue this conversation maybe to see what we could do to at least create the discretionary Waivers for these kinds of fees Great, I have vice mayor bruner is next and then council member brown Thank you Nice to meet you. Thank you for the presentation and the slideshows Um, I so my questions. I think Also aligned with council member Cummings in I had questions about uh, hotel and affordable housing And um, so for hotels There's an assumption that more water use and an impact Impact fees would be more You know your last slide that you showed Multi residential do hotels fall under that? They know that one or multi family whatever it said for multi. What are they their own category? Yeah, so yes A commercial commercial just there's just blanket commercial Okay, and then we have those retail office Industrial manufacturing and hotel categories under commercial with varying rates So with these as we spoke these examples focused on residential Housing, um, but you would similarly see I think and Rosemary to speak to that for her commercial side of reductions You probably see some reductions there and I believe those reductions would outweigh the impact of the child care And the public safety fee you and a couple of examples, so We use a strategy called fixture count So if it's a if it's a hotel Uh, it goes to you know, how many things how many toilets how many showers how many You know washing machines how many whatever else the kitchens etc that they might have on site So that when a project like that comes in the staff go through the plans in detail and they do fixture counting And then they make a determination using a Kind of a mechanism that the standardized Mechanism used nationally just to to convert this many fixtures to a meter size So the pretty much across the board A four-inch meter for example is going down some the cost of a Six-inch meter is going down some so those are those are all sort of changing in response to that And as kind of as I mentioned earlier, and I remember this because None of the council current council members. I think we're on the board on the council at the time, but The last time the La Jolla project came forward It has a project that has a two-inch meter serving whatever is there I don't know that it's currently in use because I think that facility or that thing might be not being used at the moment, but The fixture counting was done based on what the assumptions were about what the new development was going to be and it was going to go from a two-inch meter that was there to a four-inch meter and At the time I think there was a whatever the increment was the brown 90 000 Would have been their connection v change Okay, and then one last question for the um Again going back to water and new development Are there requirements for the fixed low-flow toilet? Oh, yeah, things like that. Yes. Yeah Okay, yeah toilets fixtures I was looking I was looking online at something recently and For another, you know part of my actual life over there someplace else Where I was trying to buy a A faucet and they said no can't ship that one to california that doesn't meet the I think was a shower head actually and So no because so we have we have plumbing code building code standards We have irrigation, you know commercial irrigation standards And those things have been in place and they've been ratcheted down over time So, you know, if you went out to the home depot or the Lowe's or They's hardware and trying to buy a toilet to replace the toilet within your you can only buy ones that are low-flow You might be replacing one that used three and a half gallons per flush But you would get one that uses 1.2 or 0.98 Gallons per flush. Okay, and what about older? Is there any requirements to upgrade it after a certain amount of time or We have a Santa Cruz has a what's called a retrofit on resale ordinance It's been in place for a long time and that meant that when you sold the property then you Then you had to have the fixtures be in alignment with the the current Standards, I will tell you that both from the the Washing machine shower heads faucets Toilets it's a very in Santa Cruz. One of the reasons that our consumption is so low is that there's a very significant degree of sort of Market saturation of all of those kinds of really efficient fixtures I'm not saying there's not a three and a half gallon per flush toilet out there someplace But that's the exception not the rule in Santa Cruz and it has to do with a whole range of You know the age of the housing stock. So when things fail, you can't buy something that is more wasteful that kind of thing Yeah, and also thinking of some of the larger You know facilities like hotels, for example Yeah, a lot of the a lot of the new the new development clearly Is one of the reasons we're not seeing increase in demand over time from some of the proposed development It's because it's very efficient because of the new fixtures that would be brought in Okay, thank you Thank you Rosemary. Um I now have councilmember brown Thank you really appreciate this series of reports You know to the extent that I can wrap my mind around How you're making these decisions and the methodologies and that you know how it how it all works It it was really um quite clear. So I really appreciate that um I too had questions and comments related to the The fees for hotels and so I you know, I just add my two cents that If there's a way to kind of reevaluate that and think about the assumptions we're using within that methodology That would be you know, I think that would be great. Uh, and then with respect to the affordable housing Um Exemption for the public safety impact fee. I I totally understand that and I my first question was what why in the one and not the other um And I appreciate the responses that uh, you and Bonnie. Let's come. So yeah, she's still here. Um gave us But I did want to just ask Given that uh that because these affordable housing projects 100 affordable housing projects Always have deep subsidy and the city almost always puts in Uh a share whatever it can do with the end of redevelopment clearly less but um Were we to Handle it in that same way as we we used to do under redevelopment Rather than having a categorical exemption asking the individual project developers and or the city itself to Make that request to the council um The the categorical exemption would mean that it just doesn't get paid Whereas if and I'm just trying to make sure I've got this right whereas if We don't exempt And then decide that we're gonna support helping cover the cost of those fees It's essentially a transfer probably between the affordable housing trust fund into the it would just be paid to the general fund Is that am I getting that right? So I I can't speak to the trust fund piece. I'll I'll leave that to Bonnie but what I can say is The categorical exemption that you're talking about by putting the exemption in the ordinance Is a clean sweep. So no print. No fees. No project pays that fee, right? However, also in that ordinance is a section that's required by state law For favors for waivers and fee adjustments And allows The applicant to go through that process that would potentially be additional workload at public hearings for city council But if the individual wishes and I was like, I don't want to pay this fee. It's significant or The real intent is we don't feel this fee relates to our project. We don't feel we should charge it That's an avenue for them to do that already in the ordinance presented to you today And then the the other piece that code section that lee was talking about 24 something It doesn't specifically mention police It only mentioned fire if you have a second option if you wanted to put them in that zoning code or code and then there's also Bonnie's Trust fund piece that I don't have above my head. So I'll be faster Think one of the distinctions is the discretionary piece, you know, depending on each individual affordable housing projects Some have deeper affordability than others. Some have different, you know mixes So the way it works now It is really up to you at the council for you to assess and sort of gauge You know the sort of the critical importance of meeting that unmet need for affordable housing in our community and how deep that affordability is And based on that you make those decisions and directions to us Of what fees we can reduce Wave or cover using our affordable housing fund Right And I would just say our our pot now, you know, because post redevelopment when we had redevelopment We had an average of two to three million per year Dedicated set aside for affordable housing So it was less painful sometimes to make these decisions whereas right now With the limited funding that we have for affordable housing We really look at, you know, how far can we leverage these funding this funding to create Critically needed affordable housing units. So it is it is a balance. I do think ultimately it would be good to refine or further sort of Clarify the language in our ordinance around this because it is challenging I think for developers every time they come forward and it's a little bit nebulous in our ordinance how we address this So this is an area where I think we could have some improvement in the future Thank you. So, yeah, I got to hearing that and that was exactly what I was trying to get out there Thank you. Um, it seems to me that it might be in our interest to Figure out at the front end how to just make that a category Categorical exemptions for at least for a hundred percent affordable housing projects As we are with childcare And then making the requisite change in the zoning code to add police So I I'd be interested to hear how other council members feel about Trying to go that route. Um, and then just one side question Is a clarification question in the ordinance. It's attachment one under the public safety impact the Yeah, under that agenda item It's the bottom of page five or kind of I guess it's really the top all the way to most of page five under fee adjustments Um childcare impact fee shows up Um, and I think it it and I was trying to understand what I'm missing something But I think that maybe that was just an oversight as you were transferring the The standard language. Okay, so I just say that, you know, it's there a couple of time Yeah, I was going to ask for someone to catch that for me. So thank you Great, thank you I figured thanks. Thank you Next I have council member Watkins Yeah, no, thank you for the presentation and the clarifying questions to my colleagues Um, I'm really excited that the childcare impact fee is here before us for official adoption It's something that I've been wanting to see move forward since 2018. So I'm happy to see it before us today I I guess I just wanted a little bit of clarity that Um One we can't go retro active right even though we had an ordinance on the books. You can't apply that Correct. Okay and then to um That asking move forward potentially with adopting this today and those fees are Uh, incurring then At the same time as when the research around county city partnership would also take place so that we wouldn't necessarily not move forward in some way Given that we don't have clarity on that approach. Is that accurate? That is okay. So we start collecting 60 days after the adoption of those of the resolution and we'll be working on that written agreement and hopefully Identifying if the facility plan is agreed to Identifying the responsibilities around that and getting that going Also, okay um, I guess my only sort of additional comment would be that I think there's aspects that the county The partnership with the county could offer the city in regards to how the Applications are reviewed how the evaluation has been conducted in terms of people from the field. So Moving forward. I I'm hopeful that there's some sort of way to sort of leverage people's time and expertise in terms of The system that I'm definitely make it make it work for the city of Santa Cruz. Okay. Thank you Yeah, thank you. I just want to just clarify or just um, I guess very short quick comment So my understanding is we do have a waiver uh, a waiver ability for affordable housing um, and is that Uh, is that at a given affordability level or is it at 100 percent affordable units in any in in a given Development proposal. I just a little more clarification on who's eligible for that You're talking about the funds that are provided from bonnie. That would be a little bit different But if you in regards to a definition of affordable Projects that are being exempted. There's one in child care Get up really quickly the definition here item d 100 percent of the unit excluding the manager unit Okay, potentially if we were to exempt categorically public safety, we would use the same definition here Okay, yeah, I remember that language now that now that you've pulled it back up. Okay, great That was my main question Uh, any other questions from council members at this time? Okay, I will go ahead and take this out to the public And this is for items number 33 through 36 development charges and fees For members of the public who are streaming this meeting if you want to comment on items 33 through 36 now Is the time to call in using the instructions on your screen? If you are interested in commenting now on the development charges and fees press star nine on your phone To raise your hand when it is your time to speak you will hear an announcement that you have been unmuted The time will then be set to two minutes Right now I'm just seeing one member in the public And your phone number ends in one eight one zero so you can go ahead and speak you'll have two minutes All right, this is so I don't really have a super strong feelings about this, but just looking at it It seems like the methodology is here. I I don't really understand Doing revenue sources or to assume the city budgets of the revenue funding these departments like police and fire Already take into account the cost to maintain what we have and it seemed to me these charges That you propose are essentially three times the annual per capita cost of police and fire Although perhaps the data is not really available for me to say that other than the stated annual budget I just divide the police budget. I think it's 28 million by 65 000 and that's 4 and 30 per capita Which you propose that the developer having to pay Every year for three years if I understand correctly It seems to me after the first year the normal You know revenue streams would be increased by new development for instance higher and extra property taxes sales taxes And those people would be paying just like everyone else So maybe it's excessive is what i'm saying after the first year And I Water is more complicated But it's a different revenue stream But there is a revenue stream as you know you charge for water as far as the water meters They last for 50 years or more and the water rates can tweak the balance between rates and costs and new years will be buying water just like Well, uh, just the buildings will be paying property taxes, etc Just like everybody else and uh, I'm sure each project is different and And it's probably a small piece of Cost over a long time because they last so long Anyway, that's with you and it seems like possibly some of these fees are excessive and a money grab. Thanks. Bye Okay anyone else in the Audience today interested in commenting on item number 33 c 36 Should press star nine on your phone to raise your hand at this time Not seeing any I will turn it back to the Council at this time and I believe we will need to take a vote on each resolution individually, so I would start Unless there's further comment or clarification with With staff I would go ahead and just Start having us with work directly with the Individual so the first is the item number 33 is the water system development charge update And this would be resolution approving resolution Adjusting the water system development charges and rescind resolution number ns dash 29,355 And I would look for either further comments or the motion Council member walkins and council member brown Um, unless there's any further comments I'm prepared to move the recommendation as presented So I'll make that motion Can council member brown? Yeah, I'll second that Are there any other questions or comments from council members on item number 33? We have a motion on the table Okay, let me just grab Just want to grab me Okay, we have a motion on the table to approve resolution To approve the resolution to adjust the water system development charges And rescind resolution number ns dash and 29 comma 355 Have a roll call vote, please Thank you mayor council member is what can talentary johnson. Hi brown Hi, it's mayor brunner mayor mires. Hi that motion passes unanimously So we'll now move to item number 34 And I am doing that as we speak I'm sure I'm got it up Refer to it And this is the item regarding the sewer connection fees This will be Adopting a resolution Approving the resolution For adopting the revised sewer connection fees and rescinding resolution number ns 29,181 and I would look for a A motion for this I see council member golder You don't have to put a public comment so this wouldn't work, do you know the group, right? Yeah, I would now sense. Yeah, so we have a motion on the floor by council member golder seconded by mayor mires This would be to approve the resolution adopting the revised sewer connection fees and rescinding resolution number ns dash 29,181 It can have a roll call vote Council member watkins. Hi talentary johnson Hi vice mayor brunner I that motion passes unanimously Okay, next we have up the child care impact fee And the recommend staff recommendation is to introduce for publication and ordinance amending chapter 18.48 of the san jacuze municipal code related to child care impact fees To consider staff recommendation to use initial child impact fee funding to develop a child care facility plan Within the city of san jacuzes to guide child care facility development in the areas it is most needed Three discussing consider staff recommendations to co-manage child care impact fee revenues With the county of san jacuzes or a written agreement once the city's child care facility plan is complete And for return on april 27 2021 to adopt a resolution setting the child care impact fee charges for residential and non-residential development That is our staff recommendation And I see council member watkins Would you like to make a motion? Yes, I would I would like to move the recommendation as presented and our staff reporting as Read by you mayor and I just want to say thank you to the staff for your thoughtful process here I'm really encouraged that this is now before us, but even more so looking at Facilities plans and see how we can continue to find ways that we as a city can support the critical infrastructure that child care provides Our community our parents our kids and our economic engine. So I enthusiastically move the recommendation And I see council member voluntary Johnson I'll second that motion and also just wanted to comment that I'm really thrilled to see this I had the opportunity to work with the child care planning council Some years ago. I'm helping them with their strategic plan. So I I understand the need and I'm really happy that we are Moving in this direction to support the need. Thank you Thank you council member Okay, we have a motion By council member walk-ins with a second by council member voluntary Johnson To go with the staff recommendation Which includes introducing for publication in ordinance amending chapter 1848 of the state criminal code related to child care impact fees to consider the staff recommendation to use Initial child impact fee funding developed a child care facility plan To discuss and consider staff recommendations to co-manage the child impact fee revenues with the county of sanctuary through a written agreement And then return on april 27 2021 to adopt a resolution setting the child impact fees charges for residential and non-resolvential development And could we have a roll call vote, please? Council member Watkins Calentary Johnson I Coming Boulder ice mayor brunner and mayor meyer I motion passes unanimously And I too just want to thank the staff and council member walk-ins. I know this is something you worked on on council on your time here on council and And just also very excited about the use of the funding for a child care facility plan I think that's really a great idea. I know Many people have seen the in the press that the loss of child care has really become Really prevalent in our community and also cobit really Showing a light on How not having child care really affects the ability of families to To maintain their their economic stability. So Really excited about the child care facility plan. So congrats next up is the creation of item number 36 creation of a new public safety impact fee And I'm just going to school down one more time That's right and this item What introduced for public is is recommended to introduce for publication An ordinance establishing a new child. Excuse me. Wait a minute Did I miss that? I'm sorry This item is to introduce for publication and ordinance establishing a new public safety impact fee within chapter 18.49 of the Sanctuary's municipal code and to return on april 27th 2021 to adopt a resolution setting the public safety impact fee charges for residential and non residential development And is there a motion please? council member brown Yeah, I I am prepared to make a motion. I just wanted to make one more comment related to the Affordable housing exemption. I um I think that it's it would be really great if we could do that today It seems to me just in thinking about practically The number of projects that may be affected by this Um Is relatively limited given our capacity to get affordable housing built And it's it mean it's a big difference for developers We have such a hard time getting affordable units produced. It seems like You know adding an additional cost that we could avoid right now is a good idea And I think doing that categorically makes sense because While there is there are other ways to deal with that they all will require additional administrative time potentially money coming from a different pot a different fund To cover that cost and so I would You know given that reality I would move that we Introduced for publication and ordinance establishing a new public safety impact fee within chapter 18.49 of the santa cruz unicode attachment one And return on april 27 20 21 to adopt a resolution setting the public safety impact fee charges Actually, I'm sorry. I think I need to well, so the so we know part two As written part but in under number I guess it's back to number one With the following addition and that would be a categorical exemption for a 100 affordable housing Projects and the as per the language used in the child care impact fee ordinance under 48050 exemptions D. I think that language Could transfer And then the I guess Three would be and to direct staff to Return with an amended an amendment to the zoning code to add police in the requisite Area, which I believe we Remind me where you said it needed to be done in 24.16 with 24.16. However, if you're categorically exempting that Then you don't need to go and make the change in the other section. Okay, great. So So the the in the recommendation that stated uh in our packet with the addition of a categorical or I'll call exemption for 100 affordable housing projects So just to confirm there's no number three No number three So that is yeah number two So the the number two is is capturing that categorical exemption, right? Yeah, thank you. I thought I was well. I thought I was one It's actually in one. Yeah, because it's in he tells you on the ordinance. Okay. Um, and council member coming I'll go ahead and second that motion To interrupt, I apologize. Do I have to formally capture my typo's body for those two Two places that council member brown cut or are we okay that we correct that by myself? No, you can you can correct it. Okay. That's our second direction Sorry, I called it out. I didn't mean to do that Okay, we have a motion on the floor and I think council member golder has her hand up Um What how many projects again that are a hundred percent affordable moving forward like what would the potential To be made up in other ways and what are the ways to we make it up if that makes sense So that would be something that I would have to run some numbers for And work with with leon. It's you know, I can't control what applies or type of projects apply and when so it's a Difficult analysis, but I don't know if Lee you want to jump in on um, I think The answer is it depends and this is often the case. Um, you know, when we have some large affordable housing 100 affordable housing projects come through like when 350 ocean came through and They pulled their building permits You know that can represent a significant percentage of the number of units of any particular year But other years, you know, there may not be any 100 affordable housing project So, you know, the answer is it depends on um the Specific year and whether any large projects come through So I'm thinking specifically of like the one that we just approved Maybe while I am kind of addressing the second half of that question if you can pull up some of the info in terms of what Some of the sample projects were in terms of costs for the public take the impact seat Um, but with respect to the second part of your question councilmember boulder, they could Still apply for an exemption The difference there is If you have the um, if you haven't built in Um to the impact fee, I guess here either way it's coming out of the general fund Um, you know, so if we're buying police cars right now That's a general fund expense um, and We would have to backfill that somehow If they apply for the exemption there could be an ability to Backfill the general fund with affordable housing trust fund But if you if it's a categorical exemption Not the discretionary one out of 24 dot 16 Then the categorical exemption It's coming from the general fund because our general fund buys the police cars. They it funds the fire stations. Does that Does that make sense? Okay, and then sarah, I don't know if that gave you enough time to look up So in regards to what the amounts you could potentially be exempting on those three project examples I provided the one that was 120 units that public safety multifamily charge Would be about $83,000 if if that project were 100 affordable And that would just be for the residential portion. There would be an additional $6,000 for the retail office space that would be exempted So a total of about $88,000 there For that hundred unit project if that was affordable you would be looking at about $170,000 Forgiveness amount for multifamily in the retail office space potentially there Does that answer your question remember brown Or I'm sorry council member golder. Did you have additional questions? Well, just now that's me. We have another question And so in exempting the project if they have retail space that's for paying the fee Because it's one project It probably wouldn't be we would probably focus on the residential affordable section and then the market rate would remain the same So adjusting that then the hundred units would be 143,000 and 120 units would be an $83,000 Council member Brown. I had that same clarifying question about the retail But I also just wanted to say that given those examples You know, it does sound like a lot of money That is a lot of money to an affordable housing developer. You know, I mean, that's a difference between potentially between You know 30 percent For you know of median income to 120 percent of median income for several I mean, who knows right? There's lots of ways to calculate that. So it's pretty significant for Those projects and I think it's you know, it's in our interest to do what we can to make those possible Um, so and I would just say in terms of the the revenue on the revenue side This is money that weren't currently not collecting So it's not money that we have to backfill per se. It's it's just money that we will we are choosing to Not um Require for a particular subgroup of developers so Council member coming. Thank you council member Thank you. I would just also comment. I know that we Have a number of priorities right now within the city that we're trying, you know, as it relates to affordable housing that we're trying to get built so for example the Metro project and the library project seems like you know that along with the other affordable Housing developments we're trying to get and this is also a way that we can help Move those projects forward and close those those gaps in terms of the funding deficit So it seems like this would be and as has been mentioned The 100 affordable units are not it's not something that's being built frequently These are things that provide a lot of community benefit that um, you know are rarely produced So I think that as council member Brown said it sounds like a lot But when you think about how frequently we have 100 affordable housing built in the city Um, it really isn't that frequent that we would see these kinds of savings I'll call on myself. Um, I'm wondering if the maker of the motion would potentially consider sort of a Adding to that categorical exemption sort of a five-year review of revenues That basically were were lost. I'm supportive of the concept. I just um I am worried that we are you know We we we often want to kind of avoid impact fees and I understand that and I and I've had conversations with Affordable develop affordable housing developers and and this is expense and extra expense however I believe in the state of california We're going to see more and more incentives and obviously the the tax incentive is a huge thing that often is really what makes an affordable housing project pencil And I've even heard members of the public say well, you know $100,000 doesn't make a difference in in you know, the cost of building affordable housing. So What I'd like to just understand a little bit more is that there's an evaluative kind of Maybe it's in 10 years. We do that but I think it's um I do think this is a Place and fire are both a heavy burden on the general fund and so Um, I just am keeping that in mind as I'm considering my vote on the motion. I certainly understand Trying to incentivize and help affordable housing be built As quickly and have been a supporter of every affordable unit proposed so far In any housing development so far, but I'm I am a little bit reticent to approve approved the motion Just because I don't really understand the impact and I'm wondering if there's some kind of evaluation step where we can ascertain some of the impacts the general fund because One of the big problems we have is just Not being able to have resources for the general fund costs and those are very expensive And continue to grow over time. So that's just my thought I don't know if the maker of the motion would consider putting in sort of a report out on revenue Revenues for gone Maybe in 10 years or five years something like that If you would be amenable to that for you know, how What at whatever time frame seems appropriate from your perspective staff, except or you know, I that yeah, absolutely I think we should always be Reviewing from time to time the impact of the decisions we make so yeah, absolutely That would be amenable to a five-year review Sandy just because we do okay, and would the seconder be amenable to that great. Okay So Bonnie if you maybe want to put up the motion, I think we could stick that in there Okay, unless there's any other comments from our questions or comments from council members I'm not seeing any hands up Bonnie if you wouldn't mind maybe if you would put that right back up again, I'll read from it My cryptic notes the only thing I couldn't capture was this thought of the ordinance That's on your citation. I can send it the language to you right now if you want to drop it in If you just have the um Yeah Section number Um, yeah, I just actually I'm just going to send this if I already just copied it. Sorry If I can do this, um, I have it if that's easy The section number go ahead Okay, it's 18.48.0 5 0 And Bonnie I just Copied and pasted it from the child care. So I sent that to you as well if you want to make it 4 9 Bonnie 4 9 4 8 of child care got it. Okay Great. So we have a motion by council member brown seconded by council member Cummings to introduce for publication ordinance number 2071 dash 11 Excuse me 2021 dash 11 Establishing a new public safety impact fee within chapter 18.49 of the Santa Cruz municipal code with the following Categorical exemption for 100 of affordable housing projects as per language used in child care impact fee ordinance under 18.49 0.5 0 Section D or D return on April 27th to adopt a resolution setting the public safety fee safety impact fee changes Charges for residential and non residential development and there was a friendly amendment accepted To request to add to the categorical exemption a five-year review of revenues that may have been lost with report back to count So can we get a roll call vote please point? Council member Watkins Calentary Johnson Cummings I Boulder I still have one more question Is it says residential and non residential now be used on the screen here? Says that the public impact the public safety impact be charges and it says for residential and non residential development And council member Golder thought she clarified that Oh the retail would actually be charged because it was not There's no affordability factor in Retail so that just has to do with it overall They are charges on non residential and there's charges on residential your affordability portion is just specific to Residential people but the fees that we're charging themselves are across the board There's a residential section and there's a non residential section aka the commercial commercial office retail You are not exempting that as as this reads when we come back with the resolution You'll be adopting the fees for both those categories Thank you mm-hmm Vice mayor bruner. Did you have a question? Yes, i'm still questioning the categorical exemption Um clause in there. It's referencing the child care impact fee language, which is 18.48 0.5 0 section b So they're the type typos that i'll correct with Bonnie that they clarified would not require a motion. It should just read public safety So i'll catch. Okay Okay Thank you I'll continue with the roll call though Council member Golder. Thanks. That was a guess. Um, yeah, sorry. I don't want you to hear what I've clicked on you Vice mayor bruner I And mayor meyer I That motion passes unanimously And that brings our public hearings to an end at this time Council will adjourn until 5 30 When we will return for item number 37 on our i'm sorry Item number 36 on our agenda Thank you everyone See you soon 5 30 so we will get started My mouth just died. So I have to Okay, good evening. Welcome to our 5 30 session of the april 13th 2021 meeting of the city council Today's meeting is being broadcast live on community television channel 25 And streaming on the city's website city of santa cruz.com All council members are participating in this meeting remotely I want to thank the public for staying home to view today's city council meeting And I would like to ask the clerk to please call the roll Thank you mayor council members watkins here Calentary johnson here Brown vice mayor brunner present And mayor meyers present Thank you. We will now Go on move on to oral communications For members of the public who are streaming this meeting if you want to comment during oral communications now is the time to call in Instructions are on your screen Oral communications is an opportunity for members of the community to speak to us on items that are not listed on today's agenda If you are interested in addressing the council, please press star nine on your phone to raise your hand You will have two minutes to speak When it is your time to speak you will hear an announcement that you have been unmuted We request that you clearly and slowly state your name Before making your comment so that we can accurately capture it in the meeting minutes. However, it is not required to state your name Please remember this is the time for council to hear from the public We are not able to engage in dialogue with each member of the public But when we are able we will address the questions raised after oral communications has been completed look to the attendees today And again, this is just for oral communications. This is not for item number 36 On the agenda that will be the next item that we discussed tonight So I see David is first on oral communications You should be able to unmute yourself David if you unmute yourself you should be able to speak Bonnie is he muted on your He is muted but he's just not unmuting himself We can come back to him maybe Okay, David will come back. Oh, there you are go ahead David David, we can't hear you David we're having a hard time hearing you will come back to you. Uh, let's move on to caller ending in 4844 Please press star six to unmute yourself and then um, you will be able to speak I understand I have a group time today You got accurate mayor You requested group time for I believe the next agenda item mr. Norris I actually requested for both this item and the one following Well, both the request came in late. I've given you time for the following item But I'd like to keep your comment to two minutes for oral communication I'll see what I can do here I'm going to be reading this has to do not with the tolo law But with what's going on in chico, california Where there is a restraining order that has been set up against City abusive practices toward homeless people which is eerily Familiar to me and sounds a bit like santa cruz And I think it's also something that's a cautionary action for the city council, which I sort of May have passingly referenced earlier to you. This is what the restraining order says It's a temporary restraining order Which shows that the plaintiffs have carried their burden and these are individuals in a camp called the Comanche creek greenway in chico, california. They're in camp and similar to the san lorenzo campground The preliminary junction enjoins the city of chico and the chico police department and everybody involved in that From enforcing or threatening to enforce 72 hour illegal encampment notifications You know such as your city is set up in san lorenzo park Issue runner enforcing any other 72 hour illegal encampment notifications To unhoused persons on public property in chico, california generally Okay, that's very significant Enforcing or threatening to enforce the chico municipal code sections listed And this has to do with the anti-home assortances of which santa cruz has plenty Involving things like sitting down resting downtown and so forth Enforcing or threatening to enforce the pan handling code the state pan handling code And then also destroying the property of unhoused people Even if it's valued at less than a hundred dollars as has been a Consistent concern of a lot of us here in santa cruz concerned with how Police and parks and rec rangers are treating homeless people This is something that is currently in force in chico, which is a far more conservative area Than santa cruz and yet we are pursuing actions that in way in a way seem just as abusive So I would encourage you to consider that In your deliberations to consider the community to resist that if you don't Thank you Next up. Um, we'll try david again Please press star six and we should be able to hear you david. We still can't hear you We need you to unmute yourself Okay, david. We can't seem to connect with you. I'm going to move on to wendy king. Are you here for oral communications? This is for items not on the agenda not item 36 Go ahead. Wendy. Please. Hello Okay, so My name is wendy television or Uh, listening device that you may have on Hey, wendy, we can't hear you now. So if you mute your television or streaming device And then listen through your phone. That's what you need to do Hi, can you hear me now? We're still getting an echo Okay, I'm going to turn on this. Hi. Can you hear me now? There we go. Perfect Damn Wendy can you hear us? It's so complicated Wendy, can you hear me? Bonnie, I don't quite know what to do Trying to dial back. So okay, perfect. Um, let's move on to phone number ending in six two one four. This is for item number 30, excuse me oral communications not item 36. Go ahead, please My name is Jacqueline david out. I've lived in the sea bright neighborhood for about 40 years now I'm a homeowner. I just want to say I support the mayor's proposal Yeah, I'm sorry. I'm going to have to cut you off. That's actually item number 36 That's the next item. This is oral communications. This is for items not on the agenda right now So we'll keep you in the queue and uh, we'll queue you back up when we start that item Thank you. I have their hands up Um, if you're if you're just going to speak for item 36, you'll have to take your hand down so I can see who's really here for Oral communications oral communications is right now. We have not started on item number 36, which is the Temporary outdoor living ordinance So only keep your hand up if you're going to speak on that Uh, excuse me only if you're only if you're going to speak on oral communications. Okay, David, let's try you again Next to unmute yourself Okay, David. We're we're not able to get you. I'm not quite sure what's happening Um, we'll have to move on to phone number ending in 8633 And again, this is just for oral communications not on uh for items on the agenda The next item on the agenda You're on you're on you're for the next agenda item Correct my apologies. No worries. Thank you if you're If you are for the next agenda item, I'd like you to take your hand down So that we can finish oral communications and then you can put your hand back up So if you could just unraise your hand at this point It will help me see who is here for oral communications. Okay Nobody's lower in their hand. So Bonnie, what what should I do? I guess just keep going and then I'll just unraise their hands once we Okay 8633 I think said she said she was for the next item skirt is the next um person listed and are you here for oral communication You should be able to speak. Hello. Can you hear me? We can hear you. Hi. Um, I'd like to speak about um A proposal that is a regarding homelessness, but it's not about the tolo Is this the appropriate time? Being council members. This is skirt. Monica. I'm calling in with a proposal um This proposal is to heal the relationship between the city and the homeless community We need to stop thinking of homelessness as a nuisance or a problem and start thinking of homeless people As voters and more importantly we need to start thinking of them as consumers To that end I propose we start a program where a city worker comes by your camp every day And for every day your tent area is neat and tidy and you hand over your hazardous waste Uh, you receive 10 downtown dollars Now what does a person do with those dollars? Maybe they go to lulu carpenters and pick up coffee in a bagel Now they don't have to ask anyone for money in order to eat a decent breakfast Or they stop in to newly for some toiletries. Maybe they save up their downtown dollars for a while and get themselves a new pair of shoes See you incentivize good behaviors that you want to see You can kickstart the downtown economy Give people a chance to participate in society with dignity and cooperate with the city's goals The city would have more peaceful contact with people experiencing homelessness in order to identify mental health needs and assess for health and safety risks And you'd likely see a reduction in crime Run the program in san lorenzo park only and that will keep folks centralized and avoid the dispersal throughout the city This program is easy to budget by performing a point in time count and deciding on a daily dollar amount We can call it a volunteer cleanup siphon plus a few staff members in the field Um, and you can take this out of the public safety budget This could also be contracted out to a reputable organization like scan One more sentence. I'm calling it Oni's program and it's inspired by a similar program that's going on in sacramento. Thank you. Thank you very much Next person Up for computers starting to fall apart Next person for public comment would be ending in One zero four one. This is just for oral communications. This is not for item 36 the temporary outdoor living ordinance Um, go ahead caller one zero four one if you're not if you're here for oral communication Hi Hi, this was for item 36. I didn't know how to unraise the handle from the call in so if you could give us instructions On that that might be helpful. Okay. Thanks so much. I will we will thank you sure No, are you here for item 36? Or for oral communications And star nine does i'm here for item number 36. Okay. Thank you jane. We're gonna have you hang on We'll move to the next So if you are here for item 36, I've got um two more phone numbers one ends in four eight seven one The other ends in one two six three Of either of those folks if you're here for item 36 just press star nine and that will that will unraise your hand So your hands are still up. So I will go ahead and uh have Caller ending in four eight seven one. This is just for oral communications Not for item 36 Unmute yourself. Yes, we can. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Um I'm just uh calling in to talk about number ending in Two six three if you are here for item 36 Please unraise your hand by putting by pressing star nine if you're here for oral communications plus star six Looks like you're unmuted. Go ahead. Please Thank you. Hi. My name is wendy king And i'm a board member for the seniors council of santa cruz and san bonito counties Which is runs the area agency on aging for San includes and san bonito counties Which includes meals on wheels senior network services senior legal services falls prevention foster grandparents and senior companion program as well as some others which i'm sure you're all familiar with And first i'd like to invite everybody To the launch of the california master plan for aging which will be on may 19th Which at 10 a.m. on zoom? And Everybody's invited i've sent the mayor a copy of the invitation Second i'd like to just mention that one of the programs that senior council runs is the scout program for tax assistance free tax assistance for seniors and people with disabilities And it used to be funded by all four cities Scout has brought in one to almost two million dollars a year to Right back into the pockets of seniors in our county And this year there are new tax credits available, but you need to have filed your taxes and scout Unfortunately because of covet but also because it was not funded by the santa cruz city council or funding program Because poverty alleviation is not a goal So i would love to see that team The third item i just wanted to mention is that the life oak senior center, which has been running Since ellen baskin Endowed it to be a county senior Go ahead and finish running senior network services and is the kitchen for meals on wheels And the live oak school system would like to take over the center And we need to discuss how to accommodate everybody in our community So please come to the Launching of the california master plan for aging. Thank you very much. Thank you very much Okay, the last person i see For all communications would be eight six three three And again, this is not for item 36. So go ahead and unmute yourself and this is oral communication. Thank you Hi, I apologize. I tried to lower my hand, but star nine evidently did not function that way Okay, no worries. Um, it's no worries on at all. Okay. Okay. Now we know we're done. Okay It looks like we've reached the end of oral communications Thank you for everybody's patience and getting through that Someday, I hope we will all be done with zoom So we'll go ahead and open up our agenda item number 36 now Which is regulations for temporary outdoor living For members of the public who are streaming this meeting if this is an item you want to comment on now Is the time to call in using the instructions on your screen? And if you are interested in commenting on regulations for temporary outdoor living You will press star nine on your phone to raise your hand We will have public comment after some deliberation in the near term I do want to make it clear that for public comment. We will have just be allowing one minute tonight. So I just want to announce that I do have some folks sign up for extra time And those folks I will read your names off after a few statements And we will get you chewed up for that and you will all have three minutes each and then we'll move into public comment Tonight this item the temporary outdoor living ordinance as it's known otherwise known as tolo in our community Is up for discussion this evening and I just have a couple of opening comments And then I will Open it up actually for public comment fairly quickly tonight So before turning this to staff, um, I've actually asked them to To actually not present tonight And to be available for questions for council As we move forward and as we move through public comment Um, our staff has been working on this. Um, as everyone knows, um for several months And I just want to recognize their work to date on a very difficult public policy matter, um But I also want to more importantly tonight recognize that the Really the hundreds of voices that the council has heard from In the past month on the temporary outdoor living ordinance And it is very clear to me that we have not gotten this right And I believe we all see value in acknowledging that up front this afternoon this early evening And just reflect that this is a very difficult policy to develop And that there has been a lot of confusion generated in the effort so far And uh, I just want to apologize to our community for that And I really want to also thank our community for speaking out and getting involved Um, I have been very public in my statements and meetings with literally hundreds of residents in the past few weeks That I think we need to stop this ordinance tonight And develop an ordinance that is much more clear for our community to understand and our staff to manage These are both two things key to the success of what we're attempting to do After talking literally with hundreds of folks, um, I believe that the need for ordinance is not in question In fact conditions are extreme and acute in our community and hundreds of folks have told me as such Our framework of provision of identified program services With restrictions on outdoor Living seems to have significant support in the community We I've talked with folks a lot about sort of the program service end of the temporary outdoor living ordinance and and and there is There is support for and understanding that we do have to provide Places for people to sleep Places for people to store their items during the day And the dignity of being able to access these sites And a reasonable time frame and that those sites should be safe And provide hygiene, etc Um, so since in the last few weeks, um, I continue to have continue to work with my colleagues council member walk-ins and council member callantary johnson on a new proposed approach, um, moving away from temporary living ordinance and um, I'd like to Share a little bit of that framework now And I have bonnie put that up And the reason i'm doing this is because I know many people are here tonight to really talk about the temporary outdoor living ordinance And I want to be clear that um I don't believe that that is a direction this council Is looking at as a viable thing to move forward with so I do just want to put this up And its approach really again goes back to providing the main things that were attempted in the in the temporary outdoor living ordinance And that is the acknowledgement that we should be prioritizing and setting up these adequate Shelter and safe sleeping locations programs on city-owned properties Not adjacent to residential areas or schools Um, and that that 150 safe sleeping spots could be um, part of a variety of infrastructure that already exists in the city, including uh, river street shelter 1220 river street and other city facilities and parking lots Secondly would be to look at restrictions on daytime encampments with implementation of the daytime Storage program and then third would be enforcement finally after Establishing the safe sleeping programs that are operational that we would move towards Additional restrictions city-wide I want to Just have that available. I want to recognize that I can't make a motion tonight To necessarily define this direction and get it open for council deliberation but I do want to just Just be very transparent with my colleagues that contemporary outdoor living ordinance I don't believe is viable any longer and I just want to be really respectful of people's time In terms of engaging with us on public comment And finally, I'll just close that Um We your your comments and your involvement and your discussion about This issue that is affecting Santa Cruz, but really it's sitting around the country Was very helpful and meaningful for me at least over the last few weeks to really talk with folks Um, and I do believe that the one thing I heard is that Um, and it was consistent across all neighborhoods And business areas that I discussed them this with is that There is agreement. I believe at the community level that we have to do something that The conditions as everyone now sees is just not What our community's values are and people do want to see relief for the folks that are living that way But also are very clear on The values that you know, they need to have in their own spaces in their own neighborhoods near their schools In terms of how we live together more You know Peractively together across all public areas And within our within our private properties and neighborhoods and businesses. So What I'm asked our staff to do is not present tonight because I do want to actually just get into public comment And I just want to open up with that to be clear on where things are heading And so I'm going to go right into public comment and then we will have deliberation with council following that Let me just Get myself queued up here since my computer is acting very strange tonight So I'm going to go ahead and open this up for public comment. We're going to start with The extra time requests this evening. We have one two three four five six seven. We have seven folks I will be giving them each three minutes And they will be going in this order. So those folks who have asked for extra time Please be ready to unmute yourself. Um, as soon as the person in front of you has gone First off will be tom brown from sea bright strong then brad angel from grant park neighbors Sonia mcmoran mcmoran from midtown businesses Donna rose gardener from the b40. So cal businesses Search cagno from stepping up santa cruz joy schenden lecker from sanitation for the people and robert norce from huff And again, um, we will go into public comment and then um, we will deliberate following that so I will be looking for we're gonna have a hard time with that because not everybody has Some people just called in so there's no way for me to know who's who Okay, there are a couple people I see they rename themselves and I could see who they are Yeah, I see tom brown Okay, so I will just call up the name and I don't know how to get people to Not raise their hands. It doesn't seem to be working bonnie. So I'm not quite sure how to facilitate that Well, I mean I can lower all the hands right now if you want but they're gonna raise it again. So I Okay, let's go with tom brown I might see you by name. So go ahead, please Let me start by thanking you for all of your time and uh energy on this And uh, willingness to listen to the community I also want to thank you for your clear vision and understanding of the problems with the original ordinance Which were significant and your support of the city's neighborhoods I urge the rest of the council to Follow and support the proposal that you just outlined. I think it would be a good answer One that would be Protective of our neighborhoods and consistent with martin v. Boise I think the original ordinance Was poorly conceived It was lacking in enforcement It endangered neighborhoods. It would have negatively impacted our local businesses In short, it wouldn't have fixed anything and it would have redirected our homelessness problem Into our neighborhoods And I think that's been recognized and uh, we appreciate that Very much. I think your alternative where it's very narrowly tailored in terms of where camping would be permitted So long as that's coupled with a ban on camping or temporary outdoor living in the rest of the city Is something that seabright strong would support And that we would accept as a reasonable solution to the problem So, let me thank you again for all the time and effort and the opportunity to speak And again Representing all of seabright strong Thank you. Mr. Brown Next up I'll go actually Next up I will go with brad angel. Um, okay Bonnie, do you see a name? I don't I see surge if you want to do yeah surge. Why don't you go ahead, please? Hi, can you hear me? Yes, we can. Thank you, sir. Okay. Um, my name is surge cagno I have do some consulting for the homeless and he'll Set up the vets all shelters. Um at this time um having an ordinance, um When river street shelter? Uh 32 beds is going to be closing soon when the two vets halls are also going to be closing within the next few months When the second group of the association of faith community is going to be closing We're going to have a lot more people on the streets Uh 150 sleep sites is absolutely not enough um and As I think everybody understands trying to enforce this enforce people into Certain areas that they're not going to understand and not going to want to do there's going to be a lot of pushback It's just not going to be effective. Uh, our city has great Physis and support for marginalized and minority populations. We got black lives matter printed across the street We have large support for lgbt qia groups We have a parade for mlk day, but martin luther king also said a lot of things about Helping the poor and helping the homeless. So yeah at this time. I think that The ordinance should not just be changed for allowing for that sleeping the sleeping and the storage but a lot more sleeping sites that are actually accessible and um Will keep people from having consultations with law enforcement Um, I thank you for trying to help this problem. Um, but a lot of people that are in this problem are not um Doing it because they're criminals a lot of people are just misfortunate and poor Um And I think that the a more compassionate way will actually have a better effect for our city So I thank everybody. Have a good day. Thank you Okay Okay, um, bonnie. Do you suggest I just go down the line or I'm not I'm not really I'm not kind of at a loss at how to I How do I do? I think you should just go down the line and I'll just adjust the time with whoever's in front of us Okay, I see Kathleen smith is next and if you're not one of these names brad angel sonia mcmaron Donna gardener joy me or grover yours. Go ahead. Kathleen. Am I unmuted? Yes. Oh, hi Yeah, I live at 129 mountain view abs and there's been just continuing problems in our neighborhood as I know Is this true is true throughout the The city including assault human feces in the alleys and a feeling of Lack of safety being able to ambulate around the city and um, I support the concept of Of what you have proposed mayor The only exception that I would have is that there's no deadline on number three regarding enforcement So without a date, um, you know, this could just continue on and on and and I do support What you have proposed with that exception? Thank you Mm-hmm Okay, um, I'm going to go down. I see sonia mcmaron's on now So sonia, you are one of the folks who have that three-minute time frame. Please go ahead and unmute And you can speak. Thank you For nine sonia and you'll be unmuted. There you go. Do you hear me? Okay. Sorry. Thank you Uh, my name is sonia mcmoron and I own the retail shop homework in midtown And I'm here representing the many businesses located in midtown Santa Cruz I think it comes as no surprise that no one wants where they live or do business to be demarcated as a camping zone But many of us have been living with this reality for years We already regularly move folks off sidewalks and clean up after the aftermath of overnight visitors And I can tell you we need more support from our city and county I have yet to find in this ordinance a distribution of resources to help sanitize and maintain the areas Greenlit for overnight camping. I know that's changed With some of the amendments that have happened to this ordinance Midtown currently has no public restrooms and a single public garbage can our shop fronts parking lots and Landscaping has become the only option for someone to relieve themselves of all manners of waste If we are expected to allow people to camp overnight in our neighborhoods The burden shouldn't be put on residents and businesses to clean up maintain and enforce these these areas This is the responsibility of our government Homelessness while magnified within our city limits is that it's core a county problem The county needs to put into action real solutions to this humanitarian crisis Asking people to move out every morning is not sustainable or realistic We need affordable housing and shelters built and we need them now I really thank you for your time and I thank you for listening to all of us throughout the past couple weeks and making changes to this ordinance Thank you next up I have phone number ending in 5836 Hello, can you Can you hear me? Yes, we can. Can you state your name? Yeah, my name is Jeff Watson. I'm a homeowner in the sea bright area Thank you for allowing me to have an opportunity to voice my opposition to the outdoor camping ordinance for sea bright I know that homelessness is a Big and difficult problem for Santa Cruz, but as a homeowner I worries me having camping in the area around Sea bright and going to the go through to walk to the beach A lot of children play in that area and there's the the gym that the young adults climb at and My wife and I frequent the sea breeze cafe and ink for pizza And we just don't think that it would serve the greater community Thank you so much for taking time to listen Thank you And uh, I've been corrected. I'm so sorry Um, my agenda is talent saying it's item 36, but I believe it's item 30 No, it is it's actually item 37 my my script hasn't listed as 30 36 so Excuse me for everybody tonight. Okay next up. I have um Let's see. We just did 5836. Uh next up is six two three one You can unmute yourself by pressing star nine Six two three one I mean, well, I'm sorry star star six to unmute yourself. Please. Thank you. You're ready. Hello. Can you hear me? Yes, uh, my name is Rita Watson Uh We are not hearing you now though. I can hear her hear me Okay, I can hear yeah. Okay. Go ahead. Keep going. Sorry all right, um I'm a homeowner here in sea bright also and um The homeless element here you had originally thought about inviting into our neighborhood It creates a significant hazard and unhealthy environment For our children and families um Wherever there's one or two tents the population grows and it's really the temporary outdoor living becomes Except towards permanent encampment until it needs to be pulled those the way just like with the ross camp um It's a tough situation the homelessness and I do believe that We pay high taxes here and the the city and the county need to pull it together and do something Um more permanent for the homeless and not push it into the neighborhood And I also I doubt that council members would Watch within your neighborhood Thank you. I appreciate you listening Thank you very much Okay, I do see that joy schenden lecker is online and joy Would you please go ahead and unmute and we'll have you go next you do have three minutes Unmute Hello, can you hear me? We can hear you hi go ahead Great. Thank you. Hi. Um, I'm joy schendele decker and I'm speaking on behalf of sanitation for the people I'll also mention because others have that I'm a homeowner and I live on the west side Thank you mayor council members and staff and thank you as well. Mayor mayer spear apology I appreciate that you led with that acknowledgement Sanitation for the people continues to deepen our relationships with people living outside at highway one and nine And it has been overwhelmingly positive. I cannot stress this enough. It's all about relationship People living outside are our neighbors. They are part of our community Finding ways to live better together is a two-way street As surge said we need more than 150 spaces for people to stay way more than 150 spaces The need for transitional and self-managed camps with sanitation waste management storage services uh health services and other services and safety built in Is more obvious than ever One of the things that we hear over and over again from people living outside Is that stability is one of the most important things for them to have a safe community To access services and to even think about working towards their next step I think to make it fair That every district needs to host camps and safe parking Districts could propose sites themselves Um after discussion amongst themselves or have them chosen for them I also appreciate that we're scrapping tolo And I think we need to start with building positives Not imposing negatives With true community-based collaboration Including with people who are experiencing homelessness themselves Thank you Thank you Next up I have jacqueline Please let star six to unmute yourself Can you hear me? May I hear you? May I hear you? May I hear you? Yeah, Jacqueline you'll have to um If you are streaming through a device or have your tv on you're going to have to unmute those That's what that echoes from I'm speaking through my ipad. Is that okay? Can you hear me now? You're doing great. Yep. Go ahead, please Okay. First of all, I just want to say that I support The mayor's proposal I I live in the sea bright neighborhood. I'm a homeowner. I've been here for about 40 years in this neighborhood I understand that there are different types of people who are homeless Some are poor some are down on their luck and some would be grateful for any help There are other people Who are leaving hypodermic needles human feces who are robbing and those are the people that happen to neighbors up in arms We want to feel safe in our homes So that's all I have to say and I support the mayor's proposal Thank you Next up I have Kathy. Please press star six We have one minute and I'm the office manager. Oh, can you hear me? We can hear you. Yep It's a one minute I wanted to implore the city council to vote no on tolo as currently formulated for the west side of santa cruz For england street swiss street and fair avenue businesses We have been hit hard by the last year of covet restrictions This new ordinance as it currently stands will further hurt the businesses that pay taxes to santa cruz Hurt the businesses that bring in tourism to santa cruz and hurt businesses that just want to keep their employees safe and their patrons safe I've personally had my own property stolen built with vandalism and utilization of the property of the company I work for And I've had uncomfortable encounters with people who need substance abuse and mental health support who After calling the overburden police force here still do not receive help MJ vineyards one pollution for santa cruz the martin versus voisey But we do not want it to hurt the west side residents and businesses. Thank you Thank you very much. Next up is phone number andy and one zero four one Hi, my name is kary peterson and I am pleased to have heard from the mayor tonight on the proposal to scrap tolo That is such a relief And the only reason why I stayed on the call at this point is to just express and echo the concerns Of neighborhoods who would have been impacted by this substantially Especially ours which is in the seed right area that's mixed zoning. It's part commercial part residential and it would have allowed Campers and 10 campers on our street. That's primarily all residential And so that would have been an impact and I also want to echo the Commercial businesses that are trying to reopen after such a huge impact With covet I think that it's important that we recognize that we need our economy to get started again And we need to keep our our community safe And so I'm appreciative of hearing the mayor's plan and just want to Echo the concerns of my neighbors. Thanks Thank you Next up we have phone number ending in five seven three six Can you hear me? I said yeah Hi, my name is Danielle already. I'm a new homeowner and live in steep, right? I'm really happy that mayor meyer has A new proposal and I await the future declarations and I hope that means that this the current tolo will be repealed As a public servant, I understand the challenges that are being faced But i'm worried about the city's path forward in particular if The city elects to file a notice of categorical exclusion Any action on this topic is going to have significant impacts on the environment and it requires public notice and comment before about It's also a matter of respect transparency professionalism and public duty The original tolo had focused a lot on fleeting space But the martin decision focuses on indoor shelter So a city can't manage time place and manner If it doesn't have adequate housing because to do so continues to criminalize status So the martin holding is unambiguous and it's not new new york city's done this since 1979 So I just I just hope the city is thoughtful and transparent and it's a new approach Thank you I have a phone number ending in four nine three one Please go ahead press star six to unmute Hey, can you hear me? We can Awesome, uh registered nurse lower ocean neighbor here calling Just to remind you all that um camping vans, which these new recommendations still seem to be defy recommendations from the department of justice HUD American medical association and the american public health association All of these entities unequivocally condemn policies like tolo and these new recommendations that criminalize homelessness We have substantial research that i've emailed to all of you That shows how criminalizing homelessness is expensive and at best ineffective But more often actively harms people who are unhoused as well as worsening public health by spreading people around town with no resources You must reject this ordinance and all the criminalizing aspects of the new recommendation I implore you to use actual critical thinking creativity and research evidence to create productive and not punitive solutions That have proven over and over again to be expensive and to not work Thank you We're on to item or excuse me phone number seven four five zero, please Hi, can you hear me? Yes, we can go ahead, please Okay, great. My name is jeff traugat. Um, I happen to live in the Seabright area also behind the grocery outlet and then also um the distinction of working on mission streets that we we call a mission street extension but between swifts and western and natural bridges And we've been kind of dealing with the problem of people camping for a long time. So I really do appreciate the new idea and I hope something Everybody takes that in consideration and make some changes because the original as I call blue zone camping idea Just wasn't working for us I think it's We all want to help and I've been Helping a lot on the front lines of people who Have been living on mission street extension for The entire 30 years. I've been doing business here and There's just a lot of different kinds of people. So I just Want you to take that in consideration some people Um, we really want to try to get off the streets and some people don't so thanks so much. I really appreciate all You guys do. Thank you very much Next up is phone number two three nine seven. Hey, my name is cori houston I live in midtown and have been a homeowner here for 30 years and I Grew up in santa cruz county. So I've been in this area for 59 years total And thank you for coming up with a proactive Proposal deal with a really really challenging and complicated problem And I am just calling in to give my support to the mayor's proposal that she put forth today And that's it. Thank you. Thank you so much Next up is eight six three three Go ahead and press star six and we'll be able to hear you Hi I am a homeowner who is who has an understanding of addiction and mental illness Uh, these homeless are not campers campers respect their setting their environment The majority of this population behave criminally and destructively And are not reaching to change their addictive lifestyles You are the stewards of 14 square miles of a rare and majestic slice of california We do not have the luxury to allow nor encourage growth of this population We must limit all programs that attract addicts and criminals Existing not for profits must be held accountable There must be investigations into their finances and program management Any breach of agreement should result in loss of license Your law-abiding citizens and businesses are done Limit all programs that attract addicts and criminals The sacred city the next restoration and protection if you limit the program the populations will decrease Thank you Next up we have heather Go ahead. Heather press star six to unmute yourself Heather we can't hear you Please press star six to unmute yourself Heather we'll come back to you where we can't hear you So we'll move on to phone number ending in one four six one Please press there you go. We're ready Yeah, I want to thank you very very much dana for listening to us and uh Coming up with a new Yeah, tolo so to speak um, I think one of the important parts is that Good solutions can come out of Co-working you and i'm a lower seabright East side resident nobody even came to look at our area to see Was available and uh the the kind of setting currency more co-working It would be just absolutely lovely because it does bring high caliber solutions. Thank you. Bye. Bye Bye Okay, next up is uh, kyle kelly, please. Hey, thank you. I think I see where things are going so I just want to find out I think We hopefully all Santa Cruz is at a point that they realize that We can't keep clearing in cabinets every year On the same thing and not creating enough adequate housing not just shelter I mean beyond that giving giving people permanent options Um, I just I want everyone to reflect on everything they've been up in arms on over the past however many decades And they could look to see what else we can do to provide enough services shelter and permanent housing for people. Thank you Thank you Next up. I have phone number ending in three nine eight three, please Press star six to be unmuted Can you hear me? We can go ahead please. Okay. I'm john allison. I'm a resident of sea bright Um, I've lived here for about nine years. I pay You know, I live in modest housing and I I pay almost sixteen thousand dollars in taxes city taxes a year Um, I am happy to hear that the mayor is reconsidering and the whole council is reconsidering this When you look at the city plat and look at how many acres of accessible area that there are that are owned by the city to work with To find adequate housing for these challenged folks. There's over 350 acres to work with So I appreciate, uh, the city and the council reconsidering this And also relative to resources and funds look at better ways to use some of this unused property Thank you. Thank you Next up is uh, sabina holberg, please I've lowered her hand. Let me find her again Okay There she is. Hey there. Can you hear me? We can hear you. Hi. My name is sabina. I'm our resident at santa cruise Uh, I was raised here. I'm raising my kids here. Um, this is where we're gonna live And so I just want to have it be said it's tolo really felt like a mean spirited ordinance I'm happy to hear that you agree. It's untenable I know that you're getting an earful from your constituents on all sides of the political spectrum here And this should be a huge wake up call to how long headed tolo was I ask that any new framework you you have prioritize humanizing our house with community with compassion instead of prioritizing the police budget A beg of you to allocate more money for services such as shelters trash pickup needle exchangers and transitional encampments Instead of to sdpd I also want to point out that some of the more disgusting things I've heard from the council in recent history Is that we need to protect children from seeing our houseless community members This is the q and on type save the children argument and it's really just heartening to hear certain members of the council Heddling sort these sorts of statements. I'm not sure if there's any evidence to back up these fears But I beg of you the legislate not out of fear but with compassion Next up is phone number ending in 8186 am I on you uh, can you hear me now? We can hear you. Yes, please go ahead. My name is Joan quilter. I don't own a home in seabright I've been here 20 years as a resident in the senator in the park apartment It's a senior apartment building And I I could safely say I'm speaking on behalf of many of our residents who are seniors And I know we're at ground zero across the street from senator in the park And I know that the federal injunction that hasn't been lifted may never be lifted so that Drug addicts can stick out to a point where if you walk through the park you can see them shooting up all the time And they are criminal elements in there Plus mentally ill I think before we even get to affordable housing for these people We'll need a mental hospital and i'm serious about that a mental hospital good and and for all the homeowners in the seabright area Do that on your children to senator rental park to play Thank you. Thank you We have never ending in eight Excuse me four eight four four For the nimbies of santa cruz, but I mean this really isn't anything new I'm with a police to barb and using other ordinances to circumvent basic civil rights for homeless people, which has been santa cruz is unfortunately Signature for decades and I speak as one who's Lived here and around here for decades A number of good proposals have come up such as the districts themselves Propose areas and each district should be proposing that was joyous proposal a camping area or a sleeping zone But the real issue for those of us who don't want to see the homeless swept away, which is really What this nimby uprising is about all despite of all the nice talk about oh well We don't just not in our neighborhood, you know, that's the standard line that you hear everywhere What you really need is some protection for homeless people now and immediate resources To to what they have which is not affordable housing, which is not even decent shelter But it is tents that they themselves provide Or they get help from private individuals with those tents That's where they have to be and their needs have to be addressed And that's where the problems have to be looked at their ocean views and their property values Challenge they should sacrifice human life and welfare of poorer people outside Is to me really a kind of a really fundamental obscenity we have or so it's resistance What i'm saying to those listening who care about this like we saw in san lorenzo park Like we saw in the riverside which stopped the removal of rvs like we've seen in chico and sausalito That's what stops this kind of stuff Not the good wishes and the and the sweet talk of mayor meyers and the council With it with a tiny minority on the council that Does just 20 river street and a gravel lot for 60 people and a bunch on 150 sites There are hundreds and hundreds of people outside now The need to be at least acknowledged And that's the way to do that is to pay attention to them as human beings Who have the need to take a crap the need to have a drinking fountain or water somewhere nearby And then you scream it. They're crazy and they're evil and anacrus has been doing for a very Don't be fooled by the fact that the tola ordinance is being suddenly unilaterally withdrawn by mayor meyers To drew glover a year two years ago. We wouldn't be in this situation. There would be transitional campgrounds. Think about that Next up I have phone number ending in two four eight zero Good evening. Can you hear me? Yes, we can Thank you. Thank you very much for the revised proposal. My name is carol walker And I'd like to speak to item number two in this new proposal Just that you consider um That the placement of any daytime storage facility also not be placed in residential neighborhoods That's all thanks so much Thank you Next up I have lou albert go ahead Press star six and you should be able to speak Lou albert's up next if you press star six, you should be able to speak. I can hear me now We can hear you. Go ahead, please Sorry, I was on mute Yeah, I uh appreciate the difficulties of this challenge I live in the lower sea bright area. I have a home there And I am concerned about the way the tola ordinance was originally drawn up It uh, we have a great community Many of those businesses have just invested substantial amount of money to make it quite a nice area I think that that would be obviously diminished But more importantly, I'm concerned about safety Not too long ago. We had someone who decided to camp out Underneath our upper deck to our house and he was I believe mentally ill and a drug He was hooked on drugs and he decided to start a campfire If we hadn't caught him in time, he would have burned down the house with us in it So these decisions have real consequences So I hope that you find a managed solution to the problem. Thank you Thank you Next up is john arc to povich. Oh, can you uh, can you hear it? You can hear you? Yes, please go ahead Hi there. Um, I'm john Artukovich. I'm the general manager of this small business on the west side of Santa Cruz So if the proposed ordinance were to pass for the west side for tola This would directly threaten, uh, not only the safety but the livelihoods of myself our staff and our neighbors As written it would allow many people with severe mental issues with Violence with mental health with substance abuse to camp freely without recourse during our business hours of operations Our staff our neighbors all across the west side and our patrons would not feel safe here as untold numbers of people Would potentially be allowed to pitch tents across our street while during business hours We would implore you to reconsider any decision to allow any kind of permanent overnight camping solution On the west side of Santa Cruz. We're not opposed to creating a Nighttime camping area on city property, but the west side is not the place for this We would just urge the count forward directly to choose the location with a less catastrophic impact on the community Thank you. Next up is abby Here did a wonderful presentation years ago after she traveled to several houseless encampments in oregon in washington One of the key components for a successful managed type camp was getting buy-in from the neighborhood Even andy mills knows how to get buy-in from neighbors for the safe parking program He has at the police parking lot So let's see if I get this right first You push this ordinance through even though your own city council member coming said to hold off and wait for More public input yet you ignored it hundreds of letters were written saying they agreed with all this The wording of the ordinance were you hoping that they would read the actual wording? Then you meet with people after you pass the ordinance Any idiot would have seen the writing on the wall that nimbies would rebel once they read the actual wording you failed You should step down. You wasted our tax dollars Perhaps you can look at implementing your well thought out five-year plan that staff developed about six years ago. Look at susie o'hara's approach By the way, there are people who are houseless Who do have night jobs What are they going to do not sleep during the day or the night? Please do not criminalize our houseless population. Thank you Next up is song number ending in six eight three zero Can you hear me? Yes, we are Yes, we do wonderful. Thank you. Um, i'm a sea brent resident of 25 years My husband's family has lived here since the 1850s And we're we've been homeowners for about the last 15 years in in the sea brent area Quite honestly, I've come around to some of the tolo goals As the sea brent resident i'm a hundred percent against residential and commercial Camping and at the same time I understand That any new plan needs to address the key needs Of the drug culture in santa cruz and i mean the mess in the harrowing and re-criminalizing that While also managing to help folks at the same time And secondly to make it more uncomfortable to come here to camp and live Like they are in polo nip and other areas So I think that this makes santa cruz a destination at an alarmingly increasingly increasing rates And focusing on the drugs and the mass encampments, which I appreciate that tolo is trying to do Needs to happen so that we can move forward. Thank you Thank you Next up is phone number ending in seven nine one seven Homeowner and I live on the west side and I just wanted to say I'm I'm glad that city council is tackling this homeless problem That's not a easy solution I wanted to point out that there is a group called footbridge services That they've been providing showers laundry digital charging stations clothing storage for personal belongings for People in need And it gives unhoused people the dignity of services that they lack And I just wanted to point out that footbridge services currently receive no public funding That I know of and they rely on volunteers and donations But I think this model could be done as a public private partnership And it would be worth replicating in other neighborhoods as part of the overall solution. Thank you Thank you Next up I have Wyatt whole My name is Wyatt and I live in seabright and I'm a lifelong resident in Santa Cruz county I'd like to thank the mayor for meeting with our neighborhood I along with my partner savannah support the mayor's plan amendments to the ordinance and would strongly encourage the city council as well as members of the community To lobby the county and state for both the financial and legal resources to create safe And sustainable solutions to this problem As Santa Cruz is bearing an unequal burden per capita in contrast to other cities and counties in california. Thank you Thank you Next up is phone number 9 sorry 0241 Hi, my name is kary dunley. I also live in the seabright area I'm just going to echo One of the points that somebody made earlier or maybe a couple people made earlier That encouraging, you know having programs that encourage this Kind of behavior in our city doesn't help I know it's a very difficult task that lies in front of you And I do feel for these people a lot of them not a lot of them, but there are people who park around our Park at seabright and stay the night there quite often that are In bad situations and I feel for them And they've been very respectful But anyway, back to my original point is we don't want to encourage people to to be living, you know doing drugs and Supplementing their habits So they want to come to Santa Cruz We want to help them rise up And the last word I said was rise up instead of Bring them down. So thank you Thank you Okay, we have next is fundumers ending in nine five three two Hi, my name is Hi, my name is soren whiting and I'm a student at uc Santa Cruz Advocating against the inclination of a total ordinance This just really just lacks compassion and it's really it's it's It's only a trend that we've always seen the city trying to do is criminalizing the homeless population and those horrible economic situations and It's so obvious and it's cruel and you should really you should really rethink about what you're doing here because A lot of people's lives My friends lives are are are really going to be impacted by this and I just I hope you really really think about The lack of compassion that comes with even proposing something like this So I thank you for your time and I really hope that you actually Think about taking some compassion actions in the future because this is this is just possible Thank you Next up. I have uh, Jane you've already spoken. I've got elliott Jane did not speak She started to an oral communication Okay, go ahead. Jane I actually already did speak. Oh, yeah, I thought it was you. Yeah, okay. Yeah I have to be fair. I have to be fair I know your voice Jane. Um elliott, please you're next I can hear me. It's again Okay, so I am speaking to you to vehemently oppose this ordinance Criminalizing camping and closing down shelters leaves unsheltered people in Santa Cruz with only one place to go without fear of citation or arrest The city managed camp an ice an ice child concentration camp opening in neighboring monterey county Is a stark reminder that using camps to remove Undesirables from view is not hypothetical in the united states not even in the liberal monterey bay While a managed camp is nowhere near the cruelty of an ice camp and it still means removing a population from view Gentrification and anti-homeless ordinances are directly tied to each other and tolo coincides with the wave of luxury apartment complexes being built Gentrification further raving rent will be devastating to the people of Santa Cruz The conflict here is not housed versus homeless It's those to whom housing is a lucrative commodity against everybody else A 2020 california housing partnership study states that Santa Cruz dollars an hour to afford the average rent both americans So um Santa Cruz residents currently owe five million in utilities the fact that it's unambiguously tied to the economic Havoc lot by the pandemic and not to mental illness These figures tangibly show economic causes of homelessness that is This irrespective of mental health status homeless people are not the enemy. Thank you, sir Okay, next up is uh, ana paula Ana paula, please just to know how an idea like that comes about and how fast did you come up with this? but it would have been so nice to have um have A chance to talk before this ordinance just simply passes, you know, and but anyways, it's just too late for that I want to know now. How can we do? And move towards action, you know, like this is a beautiful conversation. We're having right now How do we create a space a group where mindful compassionate creative minds get together to create to co-create with the city? Because we have people from different like people that really hates the whole idea and some people that love How do we come up with solutions and then figure out is there a space where we can sit together And just start brainstorming because we have a bunch of creative people here And a lot of people actually wants to put money into, you know, it's a tiny house How do we prevent people that, you know, just lost their job to get into homelessness? All those things and then of course the entail. We just people showing themselves Just want to do but Where do we go from now? Thank you. Thank you Next up we have phone number ending in 6392 Uh, this is somathesonic I've lived in Santa Cruz this round for 12 years and I was at some meeting the other day on the website with the mayor I want to appreciate the mayor for Understanding that this version this ordinance does not going to work the way that it was written or even with the amendments Um, I do want to go back to something I said before and haven't heard anyone talked about I think that As we all know, this is not just Santa Cruz's Issue and that the governor should be encouraged pressure should be put out of him to Declare a state of emergency in regards to our house's population in the state of california and that federal funds should be directed towards california That this just shouldn't be just us alone trying to sort this out So I just want to put that out there and that maybe folks can start to direct their energy Um in in that way as well And then I also want to say that in terms of what that happens. I would encourage consideration of a pilot program. I think I'll turn it one of the alternatives. Maybe alternative number one mentioned that in the ordinance um, but it would be good to kind of pass things out and then also along terms view and solution and I second just what folks had said before about properties government properties And that obviously 150 spots will not be enough space and that people need to have sanitation water and Trash and everything, you know that make it as dignified as possible. Thank you. Thank you very much Next up is fund number ending in eight one four one I just want to let you know that I am a home homeowner in this community and so are my parents and I actually will be I'm a manager of a business that's going to be involved right next door to where the homeless Are allowed to and that's going to not only ruin our business. I have been attacked by homeless They have broken my cars and I feel that there is no advocate for people that work So many hours between my family and I we work About 200 hours a week and we're talking to retired people and to non-retired people And we barely can afford to live here Why do we have to worry about our safety in our own hometown and community? Can we do something that puts them in an area or also can people recognize when they can't afford to move in? I know so many people that live In other states now because they wanted to have multiple children, which is great But they recognize what they can afford and yes, it's very expensive to live with an ocean view And I feel that the homeless so far there are many that are down and out But the ones that are violent aren't being addressed And I feel that the ones that are down and out should get some type of rights But the ones that are breaking in our cars stealing our things attacking us making it where we're scared to walk home at night Is a problem and we're not talking about that instead. We're just talking about their safety Not ours not our safety system. Thank you Next is stacey falls I just wanted to briefly say that I am opposed to any law or ordinance that criminalizes the basic human need of sleeping We all want to live in nice places, but high property values is not a basic human need Sleeping is Thank you. Next up is 6074 Go ahead and press star six to unmute yourself We can hear you. Hello. My name my name is grace castille And I strongly opposed the tollo instead I hope for policy that treats the unhoused communities and fan accrues as human beings And valuable members of the community instead of criminalizing poverty and other issues that need to be addressed Thank you very much Next up is gaffna. Okay Okay, uh, I see Let's see. Jane has gone. I think we're down to one one One person now. Yes 9091, please Can you hear me? Hi, my name's okay. My name's melissa. I've lived in Santa Cruz for over 30 years And I also recommend a pilot program because from what I've seen over the years When we have made efforts to provide housing or shelter regions for campers They've been mostly rejected because people don't want to live in those types of Regulated shelters they prefer to be on their own because there are rules that must be followed And I do not think that living in a neighborhood as a camping Solution is smart. I don't think that there's any Screening of sex offenders who typically would need to be regulated By cities if they're going to be living in neighborhoods like that So unless there's controls in place to ensure that the neighbors Are safe and that there is regular authority checking through that and screening people. I think it's a really really Weak excuse for housing people and this is a very expensive area Everybody knows that not everyone can afford to live here at the fact Everyone in the country knows that it's all over the place. So that's not like something that's News to anybody. That's pretty much all I have to say. Thank you Okay, uh, Daphna you're up next go ahead. I can hear me. We can hear you Hi there. Yes. My name is Daphna and Um, I think it's inappropriate to allow any camping Um anywhere someone would like in the city whether it be our beaches Our streets our sidewalks our front lawn As the previous caller had mentioned It's completely inappropriate that we encourage or allow programs Um within our city that attract people who are not willing to be good citizens Who are not willing to live by our laws If I went out to the beach right now and started a fire The state um ranger would be right on me to to not allow me to do it, but I often see Other people out there who are having fires Indeed there are exceptions to those Who lost their homes and yes, we should help those And that's why I support the mayor and that Tolo is not the right thing, but we need to have a program where we can I'm gonna really help those who are in need. Thank you. Thank you so much Okay, I just want to announce for folks who are we the last phone number tonight will be 4871 We've spilled all of our slots Uh, so next up will be sandy Um, can you hear me? Yes, we can. Okay. My name is um sandy Lawton and I have lived in the sea bright area Off and on for over 50 years. I have owned my house Since I was 21 and I'm 74 now. So um, I'm very attached to this area I came back here 12 years ago to reach that I now don't feel safe in my own neighborhood and This would make it even more so. Um To walk up to any of the local little restaurants to get a cup of coffee in the morning All those things that I moved back here to be able to do in this neighborhood um If the tolo is allowed to be enacted in the sea bright area We'll make those things even more unsafe and Also, I've worked with people with disabilities all my life and I think there are some ADA problems with blocking sidewalks and public right-of-ways with tents Um, and that's all I have to say. I hope we can stop this and I agree it'd be wonderful if we could find a way To convene with good ideas and find solutions Thank you very much Okay, the last caller tonight ends in uh phone number 4871 I've got one two three four five more callers And each of you will have one minute eight four nine four. It's the next number, please Caller ending in eight four nine four if you could press star six. You'll be unmuted Hi, my name is Natasha Elliott. I'm a sea bright resident. I'm a home owner and I have a family here Um, I was appalled by the tolo ordinance to the proposal I felt like there was a complete lack of community involvement Um, I do want to say that I think I support the mayor's new proposal However, I hope that it does not include the parking area with the galt street library which would be directly in front of me And I just wanted to say that the businesses that have been able to reopen now They're barely making it and to put something like a tolo in neighborhoods where people are relying Not only business and homeowners are relying on places to go out of a terrible time for all of us this ordinance just It was appalling That's it Thank you very much Next up is caller ending in 7573 Go ahead press star six to unmute yourself, please If you press star six, you should be able to unmute yourself 7573 Yeah, hi, we can hear you. Hi Turn your television down you we we won't have that echo So Santa Cruz, thank you so much for coming to our meeting The other day We appreciate the fact that you are listening to us and you're hearing us And I just want to say I really approve the new ordinance So that we can all be On the same page. We're not against homeless. We're against the homeless criminal. That's the problem that we have But I want to say thank you again for coming out to see bright And talking with all of us We so appreciate it. That's it Thank you Next up I have Heather My name is Heather Hutchison Can you hear me? Yes, we can Please. Okay. Okay. Um, I'm not I'm happy you're scrapping tolo I am Calling to say that I think it might be a nice idea to consider parking garages for a temporary camping where you could install port-of-potties with Kid I'm not kitchen with a sink And garbage cans They do need someplace to go to the bathroom This would be detrimental if we create any kind of camping that doesn't provide them a way To take care of themselves and have some dignity. Thank you for all you're doing. I know it's an impossible problem And I appreciate all you're trying to do. Thank you Thank you very much Next up we have uh dsa santa cruz My name is lisa, uh, and I'm speaking uh to some behalf of myself right now um A common talking point that we hear is how people come to santa cruz because our quote unquote amazing services So first as much as andy mills wants to deny the studies done by multiple groups including by his own officers 70 of our houseless community Live here before losing their homes people are not coming here because of some magical extra services Those services don't exist. That's the entire reason there are so many people that are homeless here We are lacking in affordable housing. We're lacking in safe camping spaces We're lacking in shelter space and are now losing one of the few that we actually have We're lacking in drug rehabilitation and mental health care Those are the reasons that there are hundreds of people who are without homes here It's because of years of constant neglect by the city if you want to solve the homeless crisis Solve it with real solutions Actually provide services and build some low-income housing rather than the onslaught of luxury apartments that are getting waived through One after another and just again because for some reason it seems hard to get through Solve this with affordable housing and with providing services Thank you. Next up is our last caller of the night 4871 is the end of your phone number First of all, I wanted to take just uh your comments council definitely appreciates hearing from the public I am going to go ahead and turn this back over to the council for deliberation and I See council member call entire johnson has raised your hand and then uh council member walk-ins followed by council member coming Bonnie, maybe you could just put that language I Showed you or you showed earlier up just so we have Just that there in case people want it or have it ready If anybody wants to uh work towards that Thank you, mayor meyers. Um, I would like to move forward with this motion and this outline that you put forward And I and I do have some comments to make Yeah, so I would like to move forward with this motion There's an addition that I'll add at the end. I sent sent it to you Bonnie slightly changed just a moment ago, but I just want to make some comments. Um that I really appreciate I appreciate What we've heard tonight and through the last several weeks. Um, I've I've talked to many of you on the phone um via zoom and listed your voicemails and Um read your emails and I really want to thank those of you who have um offered solutions and ideas Um, I've listened. I've taken them seriously. I've worked with my colleagues To really integrate these ideas and thoughts and into the way that we move forward I can't speak for all my colleagues But what I can say is that each of us really does cared deeply about this issue. Um, and we cared deeply about The well-being of everyone in our community. I know that some folks in the community may disagree and have Different perspectives, but I really I really can see that each of us on the council and the staff working on this do care My approach has been to look at this crisis as an opportunity to make some breakthrough and craft some solutions We've heard from both sides that that includes moving forward with shuttering and programming first I've heard that loud and clear. Um, and so I think that this approach Moves that forward that we want to create safe dignified humane sleeping conditions That is a priority for me. And I believe for This council for what I've heard in scene We want to create opportunities to access services and and have individuals Move into a continuum of care. We can't do it alone. The city doesn't have the scope capacity expertise to do that Um, we want to move away and prevent entrenched encampments. We've heard tonight about the impact that has On those how on our house community members as well as our unhoused community members These these are not made up. They're real negative impacts Um, so I think we can I think most of us can agree to this right? We want a safe dignified humane sleeping condition Create opportunities to access services and prevent the negative impacts of entrenched encampments So I think I think that is something that we can as a community agree to Now there's diverging perspectives on how we get there and that's what we're trying to do here That's the public process. Um, you know, we we put something forward We massaged it and and shaped it based on what we heard We keep we kept coming back and now here we are so Um, I hear members of the community. This wasn't a perfect process, but we're not not doing anything We're doing something. Um, and I think that that says a lot Um, the other thing I want to say is that we I I also heard that 150 sites is not enough We have to start somewhere and we have to start with what's feasible The safe sleeping sites that are proposed are a start And and I just want to make clear it's not being proposed that they're in any neighborhood It's it would be on city-owned facilities and lots Um, transitional encampments aren't off the table We are as we speak working with nonprofits and faith-based commit for with a Permitting process. So that's still continuing to work with the county who has committed to Transitional shelter as well. So so there's there's a lot of options There are a lot of things happening. We have to take it one step at a time But the most important thing is that we have to move. I just heard from a staff member Today Susie O'Hara actually her name was brought up several times She was on the u.s. Interagency on homelessness west coast city Call and the call was specifically on encampment management And what she related that cities across the state have acknowledged that encampments are creating conditions that are increasingly risk Bring risk and vulnerability vulnerability. Excuse me Um an inhumane condition again for those who are housed and unhoused And she shared that federal agencies were on the call and that this is starting to get acknowledged So I think I think that's some hope there that that um That the federal agencies are listening and hopefully with all of you community members Doing your part to lobby we will get some resources and capacity to help us and we can't do it alone So I guess I um One of the other things I want to say is that I really appreciate this community engagement process This is this is what it takes to co-create. I love that word somebody use the word co-create We need community members to engage and dialogue with us in a respectful and meaningful way as we continue to co-create and craft this What I ask of community members is that that you are patient with us You're a patient with the city That you are ready to compromise And most importantly that we treat each other with compassion and respect and I've heard a lot of that tonight So I think with that I'll pause and um invite my other my colleagues to um provide further comment Thank you. Thank you Council member next. Oh that excuse me and I will just add bonnie. There is um, there's an addition to um this motion Uh, let me see if I can read it to you Uh, is that on item three That we add at the end that um that the enforcement condition is based it's based on availability of shelter Um in these authorized locations and I can email it to you if you hadn't if you didn't get it I did I did get it. Can you say that again? Sorry enforcement With enforcement conditioned on availability of shelter in these authorized locations I think the underlying language already covers it Yeah, that's all that's already in there. I was reading it backwards. Thank you That's in there. Okay. Thank you. But just to just to reiterate move forward with sheltering and programming Um and ensure that we have spaces for folks to go to Um before any kind of enforcement So I'll just I'll pause there. Thank you Thank you council member next up. I have council member walkins and then council member Cummings and then council Excuse me vice mayor bruner Thank you mayor and uh, thank you council member councillor johnson. I think my comments really are Similar to yours I want to thank also our staff and our city attorneys and mayor mires and my colleagues For all the work and effort that's gone into to seeking solutions here and a special thanks to the community for For for being present in this conversation certainly what's become clear is that we're all in this together and And we have to stay engaged and as my colleague mentioned As a city we can continue to do what we can But we are limited in our uh scope and options And we truly do need state and federal federal intervention and we are not alone And so I am encouraged to hear that other cities are starting to come together And this is getting attention to get the resources that we need to truly find Long-standing solutions I do believe that we can aspire to lift each other up and I think that by doing so we can begin to see ourselves And each other in the solution So I hope that our community stays engaged and sees their role in wanting to move forward in some way to create a solution to co-create a solution Um, I'm hopeful that the approach that we're moving in Which is to not proceed with the tolo and as mentioned to leave with programming But also to have tools to prevent the potential for large entrenched encampments Because with this proposal we're aiming to create more signified sleeping options prevent entrenched encampments And really aspiring to create policy that's humane and effective for the entire community So I I want to also just share that I think that above all we have to continue to balance process and action and continue to try something I recognize all the perspectives and concerns and I do Feel that we have a shared goal to seek solutions um This is a complex issue people are complicated and the issues surrounding homelessness and the various populations of homelessness Is equally as complicated um, and sometimes I think we can fall into a all or nothing or a sign blame or point fingers um, and Kind of take identity positions Because sometimes it's harder to really recognize how complex this really is and to really want to continue solutions um, so I am Inspired and committed to strive towards solutions to track and evaluate What we are proposing in terms of programs and policies and determine where to go in the future And if what we do works Admit that and repeat it if possible if it doesn't and it fails We tried so we'll change it and we'll try something else and I want to acknowledge the mayor for acknowledging that this was one of those Experiences where the tola was something that wasn't going to work and we acknowledge that and want to move forward in a different direction so with that I will second the motion on the floor and You know, thank you all Thank you councilmember next up is councilmember Cummings Mayor before you move on who was the maker of that The maker of the motion was uh councilmember call and terry johnson Okay, thank you councilmember Cummings Thank you mayor and um, I guess I'd like to start by thanking mayor for The outreach she's done with the community and the decision to not move forward with the tolo I'm hopeful because we've heard from a lot of residents that this wasn't going to work and I'm glad to see that We're going to try hopefully something new and um, you know regardless of what we do moving forward We really need to ensure that we have a community process and we have transparency Homelessness is something that everyone in our community cares about And given the martin versus boysy laws It's going to take the community effort to implement something that's going to be effective and compatible with our community We have had successful outcomes when we have conducted outreach with communities first This has been evident with the city's safe sleeping programs that we have One of which is located across from the water stadium Another one that's located in the police station parking lot and other Safe sleeping programs that we've had for people living in their vehicles throughout the city We've also seen successful programs at 12 20 river street We've seen successful programs at the armory The vfw downtown and many hotels that are currently being used For kovat 19 for homelessness and to give the community example Um last year Or it might have been yes last year when we were Proposing to put um an encampment up at the armory We actually met with the community in prospect heights And we were able to work with that community through a process of how people would get to and from the armory Concerns around camping Concerns around the number of people that would be there and it was a really good process And many of the people who were at that meeting asked You know, why would why do we have to shut down 12 20 to open the armory? Why couldn't we have both and at that point in time the reason why we had to close down 12 20 river street is because we had Maintenance that needed to be conducted for the water department But it's a good example of how we were able to meet with the community We were able to hear their ideas address their concerns and move forward And so i'm really hopeful and that we can have a process that will do the same Um, I'd recommend that it's part of um, whatever is considered that we focus not only on providing shelter Um, but we also focus on deterring bad behaviors Um, that is one of the things that I feel and I think many of the people in our community feel is the issue It's not the condition of being homeless. It's some of the behaviors such as defecation open drug use Seth the thing these are some of the things people have concerns with and as the police chief mentioned in our gender report And as he's mentioned on in other occasions If we can focus on those behaviors and deter those behaviors We may be able to actually change the behavior Some of the behaviors that we see associated with homelessness in our community and that should be one of our priorities As well rather than focusing on the condition of being homeless It's clear that uh, the previous ordinance was what's confusing and I think we really need to be clear about what our intentions are And so you know the question for me and what i'm hearing from the community is are we ultimately trying to Band daytime camping or band daytime sleeping to prevent the entrenchment of encampments Or are we trying to ban camping outright because each will have a different approach If we're asking people to take down their sense during the daytime, but they can sleep at night um That I can see having an impact on trying to keep these these camps from entrenching But if we are you know moving towards banning camping, I'm just Concerned that that's going to put us in a situation where we're going to be in violation of martin vs. Boise um And so I guess to close Um, I have some amendments that I'd like to make and suggest to this But I really want to emphasize that regardless of what is done that we are focusing prime like number one on um Going to the community and engaging them in the process and if we come up with Sites and ideas or you know If it's staff if it's a subcommittee if you come up with ideas go to those communities first Have a conversation with those communities before that comes to council So that people can feel like they're part of the process and as we've heard tonight Many people are interested and wanting to be engaged in this and so again I'm just going to encourage that Before something comes back to the council that there is sufficient community engagement and community involvement to ensure that the community is on board Thank you council member. Uh, next up is vice mayor bruner Thank you wrote down some thoughts. I wanted to share as well over the last two weeks spoken with Many many people made it through all the hundreds of emails as well Responding and having dialogue with many community members and um one thing that Uh, I think is really important And that we can continue to work on going forward is Improving the community and public information and messaging. It's clear that that has um Led to a lot of the understandings and perceptions from the intentions of the ordinance and um, I'm really sorry that it's created such anxiety and stress and um Just huge concern Valid concerns from All people in our community and um, you know speaking with my neighbors and speaking with business owners and speaking with families Meeting people I've never met before who left voicemails and calling them back and people sharing their stories of living in Santa Cruz and um You know understanding that um The information that is shared with the public. We have to continue to create a system of the community information because Um, so many people I spoke to understood that we would be setting up camps That safe sleeping sites were um meant camps in these blue lined areas and um Not understanding the the that the piece in the hole and the hole has a lot more components to it and um So, you know, as as as a new council member going through this process Uh, it's clear to me that we can strive to continue to work on uh communicating that information in as many ways as possible and um engaging in that community process um There's understanding in in what the goals and tensions and needs are and um You know understanding too. I think it's really important To understand that this is the first time I'm seeing this proposal here by the mayor because of the brown act We cannot work as a team to communicate in a business or other board setting for example would and um We're working through a certain process as well in our communications and um Having these deliberations right now is really, uh It's really good to hear from the community here that You know this seeing this proposal aligns with kind of the simplification that Um, I ended up working on with council member boulder in simplifying What the needs are? For our community based on community input and that's how it should be Going forward each time, right? So, um, I also want to Really stress that I spoke of the This is a piece in the in the bigger picture Right now we have so many Wonderful to address All of the various symptoms and needs and causes of uh, those experiencing homelessness and um, that includes temporary shelters transitional shelters permanent supportive housing mental health and substance use treatment programs with Efforts from county health and human services department. Um, I made notes of You know, some of that to include supportive services and Um, uh rapid rehousing and outreach and, uh, coordinated entry systems matters just Release their new three-year plan and other amazing non-profits and organizations Like, uh, encompassed community services and the downtown streets team that really works to create dignity and services And support through through work and stipends um, little things all of these non-profits And county and city. We're all striving to work together to address the larger issue um, and I've, uh, Hope that we can get to a point of all of this information because it's come at me even in pieces bits and pieces in various forms from various sources About all what is being done um, and even, uh, this list of funding sources um There's various funding sources to address various needs with various limitations and um, you know, that includes the federal continuum of care housing support programs permanent housing allocation funds veterans affairs supportive housing housing choice vouchers um community development block grant funds It's just a list. It just goes on and so it's really hard to To digest it all and I hope the community that we can find ways to have this information digestible and understandable for everybody to understand everything that's being worked on and um that we have the long-term work that is is Being worked on and then we have the short term and um as as are one of our last meetings mayor minors And I had with the county, um, you know, there was a term called front door services and um, that's kind of the immediate needs and um We need to address those as well so, um mayor mires and city staff and myself we have been in a few meetings with the legislative ass There was a caller earlier that brought up the federal and state Assistant and that certainly Being worked on as well. Many people have reached out to our, uh, state and federal legislators and and um, you know A piece of it. This is Still in progress Nothing has been finalized. Um, you know, we're trying we're assessing we're evaluating This has been since february. We've you know gone through this presentation of this Ordinance that grew very layered and complicated to understand with so many amendments So bringing it back to simplify some of the elements, um I think is very important to focus on, um, the behaviors and That that are very detrimental to our environment and to our neighborhoods and um I I just hope that we keep moving forward to set, you know, really good policy solutions within our The legal boundaries, um And that will have the greatest the greatest, uh benefit for our community um, so Thank you mayor mires, uh for Bringing this version and I know you worked on it um With councilmember calentary johnson and Watkins um to simplify our The amendment I believe that, um, we worked on is kind of ruled into this. So Um It's nice to see a more simplified version. I do think it's really important now that this is presented that Community has a chance to digest and understand going forward. Um, and uh Thank you to all of our amazing community members that You know really took the time to talk and and reach out and listen and I hope we can continue more dialogue Thank you vice mayor Next up I have councilmember brown and then councilmember golder and then councilmember calentary johnson Thank you. Um, so have been uh trying to gather my thoughts to comment in a way that is kind and understanding And it's been hard I have to say it's just been very hard. Uh, I um I'm trying really hard not to do a whole bunch of indulges though And I'm not going to talk about that in in great detail here. Um, but I just feel like um, we We can do better. I mean we absolutely have to do better. Um the Uh, although term I believe, um, I think shebra or a councilmember calentary johnson and um, uh Another councilmember one of you said um co-creation and I I agree with that we absolutely whatever we do It has to be with a really really strong community engagement piece and uh, the term that was I heard was actually co-work And that is what is required to co-create and um, and I think we need to be very deliberate about that And we need to be explicit in our direction moving forward Our direction tonight to staff and our direction, uh, as we move forward in, you know in trying to implement some of these these, um You know alternative proposals I um I'm I'm glad I'm really glad that whatever we've been through here. Um, and you know the kind of The frustration and the the siege mentality that I've I've found people getting into because they're just they don't understand They don't know what's happening. They don't know what we're doing and it doesn't make sense um, you know, I I think that if we if we actually get people involved before we Make some of these decisions about You know, for example This program right we heard from one person. Please don't put it in our neighborhoods. Well, you know Nobody knows if that's going to happen or not. We are not being clear enough And and I know that that's not what we're here to do tonight But I do believe that it has to be done and so I would I would really hope To see something in this Direction we give tonight that includes Coming back with a really robust community Engagement process and I when I say that I mean like the kind of meetings and I'll go to them I'll go talk with neighbors. I'll go. I mean, I would happily do that As as a way to really try to work through the issues and we have heard from so many people Saying they want to do that. We have heard from so many people saying they are they just feel like their voices aren't being heard and in order to do that Effectively it I believe it must happen Upfront before we stand anything up And before we implement any new You know restrictions We have to do this. I'm at and I just I mean I know I'm like I'm imploring like all these To pre please take this seriously. We are all saying that that's what we want But I want you know, I don't see it happen and and I'm sorry that that you know My my my trust and my faith that that's going to happen has really been Compromised over the years as a member of this council and previously For 25 years. I have been talking about with many others. This is not my idea Trying to develop some state sleeping alternatives Managing campments all of these things and I am if nothing else glad that the that this Kind of curtailed process has convinced this council majority of council members to have the political will to really work on The Alternatives places for people to go ways that we can manage the the challenges we face In collaboration with our community members or neighbors business owners housed and unhoused people alike So, you know, I just I really really want to See if we can in this process in this what what we have before us find a way to build that in To me it is not enough to say well, it's kind of happening, you know, or it is happening, but it's like It's pretty nebulous how it's happening where it's happening how people can get information how people can be involved So really a clear planning process. I think we could really use some help with that. We don't seem to have Been able to figure this out and you know, I think a larger planning process is warranted at this time It would help us to get our You know our Rapper brains around, you know, how to make this work Susie O'Hara was it was mentioned that she went and she looked at transitional encampments She was learning about What communities have done to make this work? I think we could draw from others experience. I think That we We really need to Get a handle on what it what the costs might be we you know, we hear we see in the staff reports You know massive cost for doing this this kind of work. It's part of the reason that we have not Been able to move forward However, we know that we can get it done With and I said this, you know, I feel like a broken record. I'm sorry, but I just have to say it again We can get that done if we work if we draw on the the creativity and the commitment that people have if we bring that to our You know if we take it seriously if we just if we take that seriously That we are going to be so much better off I'm really I I think I'll leave it there for now. Um, but I but I do Um, I do think that we need to talk about, you know funding models We need to we need help there and not just with the funding, but you know how to finance these things Um, and and so I you know, I just and there's so many other things I mean I could throw in all kinds of ideas about things we could do that have been You know, I've been talking with people in the community about Um, and we're not going to do that here tonight, but I think we need to make space for it Um, so I'm gonna leave it there for now. Um, I really hope That we can, you know, we can be serious about the community part and the planning part And so we don't end up having meetings going out into the community just doing damage control Um, it's it it takes a lot of time that we don't have Um, so again, leave it there. Thank you for um Or listening and you know, I'm sorry. I'm not More um positive. I I want I want to end it and say that I am very positive about the possibilities moving forward We just have to be really deliberate and we have to um, you know, we need to make ourselves accountable And I think we haven't done that Next up I believe is council member golder Thank you. Thanks to everybody for all of your comments that you've made This evening and I really want to thank the community for all of the phone calls and the correspondence And I do know that every single member of this council cares deeply about this issue and we all Might not see I I am what the perfect solution is but we really do Want to make positive change in the community and I personally want to apologize if there was any vacation from us or you felt unheard or you felt, you know, we were doing things, um That so we're I guess, you know Transparent what I've learned through this process is what other council members have said is that we really need to work on our communication And making sure the community has accurate information The act rules were of course the public was standing and we just felt like then To go next step to take a step back and simplify into the community on our behalf to write an email or said Probably the other members didn't every time respond to everybody, but we really did Look and we read but we all have Seconds, you know, you care and we hear you. I just thank you council member Council member con tarry johnson Um, I just I just wanted to say a couple of words, you know We all acknowledge that community engagement is key while we continue to move forward with something With policy and crafting solutions Um, but with all due respect, we have done years of community engagement Through the catch through the homeless out hot committee before that And it hasn't produced much action at least towards programming And and what I see what I started my statement was is that I see this as an opportunity to move forward with programming And to actually help and support people who are unhoused in our community This is part of the process. I know I'm new to this But this I see is part of the process and we try something we put it out We hear from the community we pivot we shift and and it's messy Um, but hopefully in the end we are co-working and we are co-creating Um, you know moving forward with policy on an issue that's polarizing is challenging as we can all see um And so we could get we could really get stuck in the process And for for everyone's sake I hope that that's not going to be the case with this council that that so far really really enjoying working with and co-creating with um, having said all that I I've heard what council member Cummings has brought up and and council member brown and vice mayor Brunner and some other community members tonight um, and I would like to make a suggestion and ask To shift the motion that is put before us and add to item number one that staff engages the community As they prioritize setting up adequate shelter Again, again, I don't want to get stuck in process. I want to balance Um, a meaningful authentic transparent community engagement process while moving ahead Because people are suffering so we can't we can't be talking about this a year from now So yes to community engagement. Um, so this would this would be added to um, maybe just before Item one. I don't know how we want to craft a language, but um, the staff Engaged the community as they prioritize setting up adequate shelter Um, so I'll just I um, I appreciate the comments from you council member brown and Cummings and vice mayor Brunner Um, I agree that community engagement is important. I just really want to caution us as a council to Be in action together And if um, the seconder of the motion is okay with that too Tony, did you have a comment? I would like to ask for some clarification I just I want to remind the council that um, the second reading was it of Of chapter 6 36 was approved by the council on march 9th and so I'm I want to make sure that I'm interpreting this direction correctly Um, and I and I take it that I mean it's pretty clear that the council is not interested in implementing the ordinance that was adopted on march 9th So, um, so I take this direction as a motion A to administratively suspend enforcement of the of the tolo pending further revisions And and the question is Um, and I don't think this language needs to be changed The question is That is encompassed within this motion direction to return to the council with an ordinance that's consistent with What is set forth in this motion? Yes, that was a little bit of maybe too much legal language for me, but ultimately we want to rescind the current tolo So however, whatever the process is for that to halt implementation to suspend implementation And to Essentially start anew with with this hybrid of alternative one and two that was in the staff report and that's what this motion Hopefully reflects So to return to the council with a new ordinance that is consistent with the direction you're giving there Yes, and is there um Does the council would the council like to see this with you know on a specific timeline? Yes, the reason why I ask is that I think you know, there's Ideally we would keep this process moving But I think the 27th is a little tight just because drafting has to be done. We have to prepare a new report Um, and I think staff would probably like to think through This direction so that they can provide some feedback on the timing of that as well Yes, and I would say um, maybe lee can um Share his thoughts, but I would say that the item one We don't need to wait on item one Is the engagement of with the community and moving forward and prioritizing setting up adequate shelter I think that can be immediate Um, and I know that's actually that work has already begun So, um lee if you want to comment in terms of timeline Thank you councilmember counter Johnson and yes, we have already begun work part of the direction and one of the first steps that we've been working on is The development of an rfq or request for qualifications or request for proposals for For operators nonprofits or others who can Provide some of the as councilmember brown was saying, you know, hopefully creative solutions to Operate these facilities in a cost effective manner and so we are already off and working on that That process does take some time even, you know, once we release it. It takes time for you know, the the responses to come back in For those to be scored and evaluated for contracts to be entered into and so forth and so, um, there is a lot of work just in in that component, but Certainly we can continue to move forward with identifying locations and coordinating with the community to get feedback on those locations So, you know, there's there's an overlap of a variety of different processes That we can do so that we can move this along as quickly as possible and it would likely be staged in terms of You know, not all 150 Safe sleeping spaces open all at once. It's you know, let's focus on One or two locations and see how many we can get in there to see learn from the successes and failures associated with those and then modify those operations as well as subsequent Operations at different locations as we move forward I'm going to cue myself in here because I believe we're starting to come back around again Um Council member commentary Johnson. Was that the end of your questions and comments? That was thank you So I might just follow up on this Uh, kind of a little bit of this conversation we're having right now either mr. Kandadi or We maybe with regards to getting a new ordinance back in front of the council Tony you mentioned that maybe two weeks would be too soon Um Is is may 11th doable to get a first reading of a new new ordinance together? I believe it is. Yes Okay, great. So Bonnie made uh, if the maker of the motion would be amenable We'll put may 11th as the date target date for that. Okay, great. Yeah, that sounds good Um, and I guess I guess just a couple of comments. Um You know What I what I see this ordinance doing is Basically we're we're doubling the number the places for people to be We're coming at this from programmatic action Not more process. Um And um You know, I remember a few years ago This was prior to when I was on council. There was an attempt to Try to work with the community to do some sighting for various facilities and That just never happened because There wasn't a context for the community to really understand and so that sort of just fizzled out because We literally couldn't get agreement to put anything anywhere This is very clearly focused on A few existing places that have been used in this way before And it obviously is very focused on accommodating people in city at in city facilities in city parking lots And what Really the comments that came from the community on Were a lot of frankly misinformation that was put out on social media a lot of Information a lot of confusion around the infamous blue zone map And You know with that came the need to go out and talk to the community which Many of us did in phone calls in emails in private meetings in public meetings In parking lots wherever it was we needed to go But I think having going back to process going back to You know If we have been trying to solve this for 25 years, we're in something's wrong You know we we need to move we need to move now There are absolutely inhumane conditions that people are currently finding themselves in And if we can put them in a place that they can come and get a A place to sleep at night that is a huge step forward. It's a huge step forward And if we can stop having Encampments that blow up and turn into real problems for our community That's also really important and and a step forward So, you know, I understand and certainly have participated in a lot of community engagement over the last two weeks And I will do it again and I will keep doing it as long as we need to do it But I'm not willing to just stop and start process again process has failed us I find it a little ironic that you know with the ross camp which was Not a planned activity at all There was a lot of support to do that even though We had business owners and people coming and begging us to shut down that camp We had county supervisors who had agreed on operating procedures to actually Begin to shut the camp down that were not that were not honored in boats No one asked The no one asked the people about setting up the ross camp. There was no community process around that There was no community process around the 400 people that moved into the lower part of pogonet And carved the hillside apart So, you know to say that we need to do more process We need to do something right now We need to do something right now and the most important thing that comes out of this ordinance Is that we will be making contact with people. We will be able to actually ask them their names We'll be signing them into these sites. We'll be learning about what they need We're going to be putting to get them together with services These people will actually be touched by various conversations throughout their ability to try to you know move into some of these sites that we want to Set up and to to susie o'hara's credit Those are the kinds of environments she was setting up. She was establishing and those were successful They did get people moved into the continuum of care. So this is not a mystery of what we need to do Um, you know, we know how to do both manage encampments. We know how to do Transitional encampments. We do know how to do this Um, we need to just start moving And so I appreciate the emphasis on community outreach And I think that can be done by a phone call It can be done by going to a neighborhood and connecting with the people who are organized and having a conversation I've done a lot of that in the last two weeks and it's been extremely productive And I've met frankly some really wonderful people who want to get engaged in solving this problem So, um, those are my thoughts around process and sort of engagement So let's put it in the context of the urgency and the cuteness of what we see in our community right now And let's start moving on helping people So, um, I'll turn it over to Council member Cummings then council member brown And I've got vice mayor bruner and then council member Watkins Thank you, mayor. I have a few follow-up to a number of things that have been said and The one thing I want to point out is that I think that some of what I've heard from my colleagues is that We haven't been doing anything The fact is we've been doing a lot And we have been successful Before I got on the council. I think it was that year the 12 20 river street was set up. There was heavy amounts of security People were concerned, but it was something that we tried out as a pilot and it worked And over time we've been able to cut costs on that by reducing the amount of security that's there And I believe we could probably do further reductions in security at some of these shelters that we have And and that was so successful to the point where when the Ross camp was closed the tannery Residents had actually asked us to put that camp back in its place and they commended the city on how successful it was So we can't say that we haven't been doing anything and yes 12 20 was expensive But we've been able to reduce those costs over time The reason why the Ross camp wasn't closed so so quickly I'd like to remind the community is because During one of the meetings when we were about to vote on it The city attorney had made us aware of some consider some concerns around martin bruce boyzy and opening ourselves up to litigation And I think over the past two years some of the things that I've heard from my colleagues Is we need to try to avoid being in lawsuits And I understand we need to move swiftly But we've just did that Well, first of all There was an attempt to move swiftly over christmas And it put us in a lawsuit and we're still in that lawsuit where we cannot Move people from the sammel and the park from sammel and zoe park And by moving swiftly with what we've just done I don't know how many letters we've received from different attorneys from property owners who have said if you move forward We will be moving forward with litigation So we I understand the need to move and to try to get things done But we have to accomplish them with in in conjunction with community outreach And when this first came to the council that was all I was really advocating for So if we're going to say that people can sleep overnight in our open spaces have we talked about people who live around it When we're saying that we're going to you know Not have people sleep in the downtown or not have people sleep in certain areas The rest of the community and say well, where do they go? Are they coming to my neighborhood? We didn't and no outreach was done and that's all I was advocating for because what I'd expressed in that first meeting was that if we don't go to the community We're going to end up in the same situation We were in when drew had made his proposals of putting our vn campments and other types of encampments all over the city in 2019 That was the biggest thing that we heard was that the community said you didn't come to us and talk to us about it and Here we are again and so Regardless of what we do and I I'm totally fine with a lot of the things that are proposed here It's something that many of us have wanted to see many people in the community have wanted to see And i'm not saying that we need to go back to square one of what we need to do to just homelessness I'm just saying that if we are going to go move forward with any of these things That there's that the community is engaged with so another example laurel street shelter at salvation army That existed and that functioned with the community because we went to the community We spoke with the community we asked them What did they need in order for this to function and it did so All i'm going to say is that you know to say that we haven't done anything say we're not Making strides. We are and we need to acknowledge that I'm actually Going to stop my comments there, but I do have edits that I'd like to make Or friendly amendments to make to this I was going to mention that we should suspend or delete chapters 6.36 Regulations for temporary outdoor living, but it sounds like that's already been incorporated into the motion I would like to make a couple edits or potential friendly amendments to number one And so the language would read Prioritizing and setting up adequate shelter slash safe sleeping locations slash programs on city-owned properties Including but not limited to the creation of 150 safe sleeping spots In addition to shelter and or safe sleeping at the river street shelter 1220 river street and Other city facilities slash city parking lots as necessary to be determined by staff in conjunction with community outreach when appropriate So that would remove So could you show us that language? It's very hard for for bonnie to actually track that and for us to It's just difficult. Do you have that it looks like Can you send it to us? I can send it. I can send it to bonnie. Thank you. That's great Or if you can just say it's slower, I don't know. Yeah prioritizing and setting up adequate Shelter slash safe sleeping sites location city-owned properties including but not limited to 150 safe sleeping spots. So that same sentence I would delete and the reason I'm going to explain myself before I make this deletion I'm gonna I would like to recommend deleting not adjacent to residential areas or schools that include or Not adjacent to residential areas or schools and the reason why I'm saying that is because the 1220 river is adjacent to tannery And when we had rural street shelter that not only was adjacent that not only was on a neighborhood block But it was also across from Santa Cruz High So or the the fields of Santa Cruz High. So That's an example of something that did that function well next to A school within a community in both circumstances And so and this again is the ad is advocating for that community outreach that we can address the community needs um, so then um, this that Delet that includes creation of 150 safe sleeping spots In addition to so delete involving the river street shelter and No, no, no not that whole thing involving the And then just put in addition to the river street shelter river street shelter 12 20 river And other city facilities parking lots as necessary to be determined by staff In conjunction with community outreach when appropriate The next one would be um All right mayor Community outreach went appropriate and I would delete on the next bullet point to these I just delete that So in the first bullet From yeah from there to where it says these In the next line. Yep, then continue through yeah, so delete that and these where it says these The word and so then it would read safe sleeping spaces will be Will be for sleeping only Inviting individuals to come in the evening to sign in and leave in the morning and so because if we have an emotion that 12 20 river can only be used as a managing cabinet or overnight sleeping You know, there's the potential for storage or other sorts So rather than putting restrictions on 12 20 we focus on the fact that safe sleeping will be for sleeping only um, and then Below number two so three would become four, but I would add a line under number two Directing that we use the temporary outdoor living ordinance And the standard operating procedures for removing encampments as templates to use temporary outdoor living ordinance and standard operating procedures For removing encampments As templates to work with staff at the beginning of four Because it's going to build on what's already there Establish a subcommittee to work with staff and bring forward an ordinance in conjunction with community input for and And then we have enforcement It's it's our it's a building on it now for enforcement of nighttime prohibitions On camping I'll just read the rest of it too because it might be easier enforcement of nighttime provision on camping when when adequate safe sleeping Programs are operational Martin versus Boise City would prohibit camping all other city areas other than city permitted indoor shelters sleep sleeping locations And managing campments to the end of the rest of the paragraph Yeah, because it's it's pretty much redundant. I mean, I don't know I personally I don't I mean maybe we can discuss the timeline, but I personally feel like That might be a short timeline. So it might you know, we Return to council. Yeah by May 11th And maybe if we can build in some flexibility or after May 11th, I think it might be worth us having some consideration of an extended date or If people if staff needs more time that we provide them with the mechanism for being able to extend it So those are my friendly amendments. I don't know. I'm sure there's probably some Changes or I don't know if they're going to be all be accepted But I think it's worth us discussing some of those provisions. I think what I'd like to do I see that councilmember brown is next We've we have not taken a break Since we convened And and this is a lot to sort of I think maybe giving The motion maker a little bit of time to sort through this. I'm sure all of us need to Stretch our legs and maybe attend to a couple of things. So I think I'd like to just take a 15-minute break and we'll come back to this Because this is a lot to take in right now So, um, why don't we go ahead and take a 15-minute break? We'll come back at 8 30 And we can pick this up and Thank you original language for the for the motion versus the edited version at some point or maybe bonnie that that could be something to reference Back up and running and I will so we have a number of A number of friendly amendments And I'm going to actually ask the motion maker to Sort of sort through whether or not the motion maker and the seconder To let me know where you where you want to start with those If you're ready Store. Yeah. Thank you, uh, mayor mires and um, bonnie if you would you mind putting up The um a version that shows the original Compared to the amendments do you have that? I do remember coming. Um, thank you. I appreciate um you um adding some of these pieces As I was looking through them over the break Really a lot of these amendments are tangential to what's already suggested And I was really trying to keep it really clean and clear In terms of motion language So I guess I'll um, I mean there's a couple pieces that I think that that you suggested could we could add Keep the motion language as um originally presented So I can go through bit by bit, but um the piece around Including but but not limited to I think the bias doesn't say but but not limited to 150 Speaking spots. Um, I see what you're doing there. You're just saying it's Doesn't have to be a A maximum of 150 or excuse me not a minimum of 150. So I'm I'm okay with that piece of it With that friendly amendment The I'm not comfortable with the striking out of the adjacent to residential areas The community engagement is already there at the start. So I I don't see why we need to to shift it So it starts out by saying direct staff to engage with communities. So that's redundant and then Let's see. Um I'm not sure how the second piece has changed except for Except for 1220 river chute, which maybe uses a managing cabinet overnight site That's same as what I had what we had originally proposed in the motion um, you know Can I stop you for one second because that language is not correct in the second bullet Sorry Additions that the edits that I made that's not correct. That is exactly what was there initially and I changed that so But I do know that Oh, go ahead But I know there's discussion around putting up the original versus the edit So I just wanted to point out that that I could read The language that I changed there. I just wanted to point out that's not the correct edit Okay, maybe maybe if you can send the correct to bonnie go through the rest I I you know, honestly, I feel like it gets um, it gets really, um complicated Like the subcommittee, I I see that we we already have a couple of opportunities And we already have structures for subcommittee. We have the two by two. We have the um What is it called the county response the county city response team? So that can be used as a space for the subcommittee um, you know, we would we would of course use what we have already The existing tolo and so please as a starting point. So I'm not sure that that needs to be in there um, so I think that the pieces that I'm okay with is the up to 150 sites and um Yeah, I think that that's really the one piece that that um, might have been overlooked But everything else I think is either there or I'm not comfortable with um The other change I wanted to make to this actually to this motion is at the very top the four number one to explicitly state that we would rescind The council adopted tolo So I think that hasn't been explicitly stated the reason the the council adopted tolo And then and then the second part is direct staff To return on may 11 With a recommended implementation plan and a new ordinance that captures the intent Of the following plan and I can send that to you um body and then it would have all of the rest of it So again council member Cummings, I think the up to 150 sites is is a um a good addition an important addition But the rest of it I think is already in the intent of the motion and and I'd like to keep it clean and clear Maybe go to that. I'm sorry I'm sending over the language because there's there's a number of places where I don't think um, it was Either it was overlooked or when going back to try to make the changes between the two there might have been some errors, but um It's from what I heard from what I've heard I'm I'm comfortable with adding the up to 100 to deep safe sleeping just the up to language But not comfortable with the other amendments Bonnie, I think you should probably be working from the original motion then if that's um, that's not accepted as a friendly man because This is Yeah, thank you. Tony. I think there's only one change that's been accepted by the motion maker from what I'm hearing And then I have a question about the part about rescinding the council adopted tolo um And again, it stems from the fact that the way an ordinance can be rescinded or repealed by the council It's the exact same way as the way by which you adopt it, which is by ordinance. And so um, I think what I would recommend is that you direct staff to suspend enforcement of the tolo And bring back an amendment to the ordinance with the council's direction this evening discussions that we had The intent is to really start anew So not a men tolo but start with a whole new ordinance. So whatever needs to happen to make that happen Uh, that well, I think um spend enforcement and direct staff to return with A new ordinance that's consistent with the council's direction Mayor as the seconder of the motion I'm just happy to weigh in here a little bit if that's appropriate. Please do. Yes. I'm just trying to write down what tony said as well Um, no, I appreciate the I appreciate the input and additions and I also follow the um The logic that councillor calentari johnson really pointed out in that, uh, some of the additions are redundant and And the intention is to keep a lot of uh, the direction simplified for ease of implementation and clarity um And just sort of, you know, particularly around the community outreach language. I think that that is already stated at the very beginning um You know, certainly of course use uh for staff to use whatever language could be useful in terms of uh, the additional three and then also existing um committees that are working within the larger context around solutions to houselessness in our community in terms of the two by two and other efforts, so I think um Yes, I think the intention I think is really actually really there and um, the additional language is almost a little bit more confusing or cumbersome to the extent that we want to just continue to move forward with solutions And I also just want to reiterate the importance of having the additional language at the very beginning to rescind Or to suspend and then return with a new ordinance, whatever that might look like to make that happen So I follow as the seconder that the motion makers I just maybe um councilmember calentari johnson Do you want, uh, mr. Condati to uh confirm that that language there at the top that, uh, bonnie just typed in tony. Is this the right language? We lost tony. Sorry. I think that um that can be added uh To the original motion right and then also adding The words including but not limited to 100 safe sleeping spots to the original motion would be consistent with um Would be consistent with what has been accepted Of councilmember Cummings proposed friendly amendments Bonnie, do you want do you need a minute to put all that back together into the original motion? I do just give me one second Okay, and I have a few more. I have council members in the queue. So I just wanted to It's the maker of the motion Do you need more dialogue on needs on where you're at councilmember calentari johnson? No, I don't thank you Okay, I have councilmember brown vice mayor bruner Councilmember walkins and then councilmember cummings Go ahead councilmember brown. I'm here. Um, so I I want to respond to a few things that have been said and then I have two questions and uh request Some clarify or more specific language in part one around community engagement With all due respect We have indeed done a lot of community engagement and it has been productive and what has happened is The city council multiple city councils over time have ignored those recommendations We have we do know a lot of the things that you know I mean a lot of work has been done and we could draw on that and we're not and so that I really believe That that is the fundamental problem that we're having is we we do certain kinds of community engagement and then We ignore it And and then we kind of find ourselves here And and I want to say when I talk about community engagement I'm not and and needing to do that before we do these other things I'm not talking about suspending all of our efforts. I am thrilled that we are finally talking about Safe sleeping zones and yeah city city Involvement in that in a in a way that is going to be meaningful. We have never talked about it Well, anyway, I'm going to leave it there. So I'm talking about when I talk about community engagement. I'm talking about, uh, you know, it's it's a term or you know phrase that We use it's you know, it's kind of vague. It's kind of nebulous. It means different things to different people I am not talking about Just a vague notion of community engagement. I am talking about Specifically saying we are going to have meetings with community members neighborhood groups service providers Mutual aid providers those all of the folks who are already doing this work and thinking about this And getting very very concrete about having those meetings co-creating co-working to co-create So none of that requires that we halt moving forward What it requires we do is get in get engaged get reach out to people to the community Um in in and we know how to do that Um in meaningful ways so I'm I'm going to ask that um We Consider and I would ask the makers of the motion to consider um A friendly amendment or I can make it as you know a formal motion that in um Number let's see. Um, now I have to it's moved. Sorry. Um, so Okay, now I can't where is community. I don't even see it in here anymore Extra extrapto system enforcement prioritize setting up adequate shelter Bonnie, I think you didn't put the most up to date with the engagement communication piece. Sorry to jump right in Oh, please. Um, so This right here is the original motion with just the part that you accepted I'll just um If I may Bonnie at one point councilmember talented johnson added having heard the the commitment to community engagement The very if you go up to the point number one direct staff to engage with community To prioritize that language was added by councillor count harry johnson to the original Sorry, not the red one but the one direct staff to engage with community to prioritize that Sentence right there. It was added. Yeah. Thank you Oh, thank you. Um, so my request is That Where it says direct staff to engage with community um I would add or I would ask that we add um including meetings to Get input from people who work with the houseless including service providers and mutual aid groups and I would also add um neighborhood groups That may be affected. Um, but or interested affected by Um citing potential locations Those are the pieces that you know, I think would really help us move forward in a productive way So I I would ask that we include those and be explicit about it. Um, asking staff to engage Is is not really very clear for I think for staff either So, um, it would be nice to get at least a little bit clear about that So I would hope that that would be accepted Um, I'm wondering now. So now my questions, uh, was there a reason that Managed encampments was left out the uh language here where we where you talk about um Say sleeping Is there I know I realize those are different things and I'm just wondering are we making a decision to not Move forward with exploring and can't encampments Managed encampments. Are we just talking about say sleeping zones? Yeah, please go ahead Council member brown, um the bullet point under item two Gives the option of a managed encampment as well um Which may be so except for 12 20 river street, which may be used as managed encampments or overnight sites So I I understood However, what I see there is that we are referencing Specifically 12 20 river and only 12 20 river and then and then there's also, um, I Uh, let's see under um, what's now item? Four towards the end there that okay. Thank you permitted. Yeah, so that's also thank you. Sorry. I missed it. I'm so sorry No, that's okay. It's there's a lot yet Yeah, and then so the other uh related to the sop since, um, council member Cummings Ray brought that up and and uh requested some language about that You know, we have a standard operating procedure. Um, I I'm I'm just wondering if How it's being used. I mean, I don't really even understand How it's being used on my my Understanding at the time was that the intention was to use that as a way to try to address Um, entrenched encampments and that hasn't what you haven't been able to do that, but I'm just wondering Should we be looking at the standard operating procedure and including that in the conversation? It seems like um It may need revision um and or uh further consideration of how it is to be utilized I'm just again, maybe not but I'm I'm not clear about it. So Maybe I'm missing something. Um, and I see tony There I was just gonna offer that. Um There is in the current ordinance language that incorporates standard operating procedures and I Based on the council, you know, the direction the council is leaning right now I would not envision that we would modify that significantly in the ordinance that we bring back to you In May Okay, so it it will be clear that will be clear though where it fits How it is to be utilized? Okay Um And that yeah, I think that's I'll I'll leave it there. Um, but and thank you for um for considering Getting a little more specific about what? community engagement means or or what would be productive So just to clarify was this accepted Yes, uh, yes, I yes, I can accept that friendly amendment thank you I can I can't as a seconder as well, but I also want to just highlight that. Um When we start to really get identifying different populations, there's just uh, there's so many right We have used our seniors our monolingual spanish-speaking populations. So I just You know, I I hope that when we think of community engagement We think of it through lens of equity and trying to get the the right voices of all of our community Can I just respond quickly to that? Um, absolutely. I completely agree councilmember walkins. I um and you know You know, I would hope that that is the commitment that we're making The reason that I called these out specifically is because these are the groups who are either consistently working in this arena or the groups, you know neighbors who have responded to this attempt at an ordinance very very, um, You know vociferously So I guess I just think that that needs to be called out As we think about, you know, when we start thinking about siting, right? And I know every you Folks have already have been and you've been talking about this You know that we actually talk to the neighbors There will be neighbors. There's no way there's not going to be neighbors around some of these locations And so we need to be up front about that before they just get an announcement that you know beginning Or they just see it, you know and they pop up So I I do believe that those are conversations that are critically important and of course You know engaging with uh with you know different groups across marginalized communities You know and you know all of that I think is very important here in this particular case This to me is what's critical. So I don't know if that um, I just wanted to say that because Yeah, and when we could add um, but these are the these are the folks who we're hearing from right now And they may fit into a lot of those other categories too I I don't I don't disagree. I just would say that with the health and all policies lens Does we're looking at equity and our approach to policymaking? I think it is implied that we're looking for inclusive engagement of those also who aren't necessarily inclined To reach out to the community and by default our Managing commitments are in neighborhoods and so you know those that are surrounding the San Lorenzo park are impacted by that as well Um, so I guess I just I understand the intention. I don't disagree I just want to recognize and acknowledge that that the community is all similar complex than Um, than these specific populations and I hope that our staff would look at community engagement through that lens Yeah, thank you We have two amendments I've been accepted friendly amendments from council member brown and council member Cummings. Um, I'm going to go ahead and I gotta get my list up here I believe next is vice mayor bruner And then council member Cummings and then council member golder And then council member walkin see My hand's been up since before the break and a lot has changed and then so organized here clear what's happening right now for for the community to understand Um, there's a motion, you know really um addressing what when does this start You know, all of that. I hope we can leave tonight with a brief Um, explanation all this process means in terms of Next so it's clear for everybody. What are what our process? What happens on may 11th? What happens between now and then and what work does start now versus later? I would like to ask some clarification Of that is done before we leave tonight and also Emphasizing the understanding that this is Not to solve homelessness and that crisis of you know, the There's just an component That it really requires a larger scale To deal with that larger issue and that's not what this is. So I hope That understanding is clear before leaving tonight. What this intention is Um That you know I love the word co-creating as well, you know The larger scale just because there's a diverse array of solutions needed for each individual case of someone unhoused From families to treatment programs to you know, anything that gets them on pathways to housing and good health requires different solutions and Um, so the work with our nonprofits and faith communities Um county and state and federal Um is the work to address the larger issue You know, since that we're seeing this I'm seeing this tonight and that it's being created tonight um, I think it's really important To I think it would be valuable for everybody including our constituents to take it And bring it back for first reading if that's what it's called Just to be able to digest all these components and have public input on this and um To really understand what's being said here With all these changes back and forth that kind of brings me back to The confusing beginning of the temporary outdoor living ordinance Um, it's important that assumptions are not made um I think that leads we've seen clearly um assumptions don't lead to productive and um, I really want to Make sure that our community and that all of all of us and all of staff are all really clear This came up in a lot of my conversations with constituents to define what faith sleeping sites mean That definition means something Very specific that includes and maybe it's implied or not implied or not assumed But do we need to spell it out and I might recommend the amendment to Include with the faith sleeping that includes access to restroom hand washing stations and water As opposed to just here's a spot to set up there has to be those elements um In conjunction with those spots Is that a friendly amendment or And where would where would that go and is that accepted that's implicit in the notion of safe sleeping spots I'm not sure it needs to be spelled out in this direction Um, particularly when the staff will be returning to the council. Okay, uh with um Information about the rollout of or the implementation plan as referenced in item one I think the council can deal with that specific level of specificity at that time So when it comes back Right the direction would be to return to the council with the recommended implementation plan And so the implementation plan would have that level of detail And how would we convey that information for the public to understand our constituents to understand because Um that has been lost in translation already to date I mean if the council prefers to have that expressly stated here then that's That is perfectly appropriate for the council to make that decision Thank you And the maker of the motion um Vice member in our can you restate how you want that? I Um, I think that is part of the programming But you're you're correct that I had the same experience that a lot of community members Understood safe sleeping is something completely different than than how we understand it So to be explicit in how a reformat comes so I'm not sure how um how you want that to look Yeah, potentially under number two Sorry, bonnie There's language there uh regarding safe sleeping spots and comma which would include You know safe sleeping spots would include access to restaurants water trash and hygiene water hand washing trash Restrooms something like that All right. What did you say to me? Water hand washing trash and restaurants Thank you Yeah, I think and again, I think this is part of the programming so it's um really we just we need to have clarity on What the programming looks like Yes, that's that's accepted There's the seconder of the motion have to You know, I accept it as well. I think as a counselor Calentari Johnson brought up I think my my understanding that's part of the programming That kind of programs that was implied in in in my understanding, but for explicit understanding beyond, you know That us knowing that for the community to be aware of it. I think that that makes a lot of sense in terms of Okay, thank you I just as this is a new a new piece of literature coming forward For everyone to digest. I think that's an important distinction that would be appreciated to understand And my last I just think it's important to understand What the city can control and manage and then again this goes back to the larger picture right and The 20 the 2017 homeless homelessness coordinating committee recommendations You know, I think maybe sandy. That's where what you were referencing at some point when you talked about all the community engagement and It's not anything to include I don't think it would be included in this context, but I just thought it was Important to not lose that piece of valuable work that has been done and There are recommendations in there some have been Reached and and so it would be good to bring An update since you know We are a new council Um of where that stands and where that's at Um the the recommendations from the 2017 homelessness coordinating committee And and and it's good for the the public to see that too our constituents That's it. Thank you. Thanks vice mayor Just on your last comment. Is that is is that a request of staff at some point to come back and and provide an update on that? That's not It's not part of this. I think it's just you know, it's part of the whole picture that it's just good to see in conjunction Um where that's at because a lot, you know, rather than duplicating efforts, right? And just understanding History and historical context it plays into our path forward Thank you Okay, I have council member Cummings. Um council member golder council member walk-ins council member brown and then State manager Marchine Bernal And it is I'm just wondering if we can get to maybe getting closer to Concluding tonight. I think we're starting to sort of kind of lose focus. And I think we just need to you know In at some point. I'd like to you know move towards a vote on the motion Uh council member Cummings Thank you, mayor. I just wanted to see if um kind of under thin the spirit of The statement that you just made about trying to move forward. Um I'd like to just see if maybe Some of this could be separated into separate motions and maybe we could we can Start moving forward because I am comfortable with moving forward some of this And I'm not comfortable with moving forward with other parts of this What I'd like to ask is that is whether after The first sentence where the direction is to direct staff to suspend enforcement Of councils adopted temporary outdoor living ordinance that can be separated from the rest of the motion And I just like to make a few comments on um On the rest of the motion. I'll look to the maker of the motion Uh to see if that would be acceptable I'd like to keep this as one motion and keep it Keep it direct as well Then I'm just I'm going to make a few final comments Out of few Changes that might so I'll start with a few Cleanup items. I think uh, so number two The way it would read is direct staff to engage with community to prioritize Including meetings to get input from people that dramatically Should be changed so maybe direct staff to engage with community to prioritize Delete including but to prioritize meetings to get input That would read a little bit more smoothly Grammar stuff we will fix for sure. Okay. I was just trying to check. Um, then I'll make a few other comments one, um The way that this is currently written Especially with regards to number four, so maybe this is something that council members might want to take into consideration But if the nighttime enforcement on prohibition is to be conditioned on availability alternative shelter options Um, and is deferred until item number one, which should be two is completed my one concern is that um We're still not out of the pandemic and the cdc guidelines haven't changed So you may have there may need to be an inclusion of the enforcement of anything To be conditioned upon either what we had in the last one whether we're in yellow tier or When the cdc has changed its guidelines because we could find ourselves in another lawsuit for being in violation of that Which is why we're in our current lawsuit Um, additionally the enforcement of the nighttime prohibition Since there currently isn't an ordinance language may need to be included So that the enforcement would be conditioned upon the passage of a new outdoor living or Whatever we want to call it kind of ordinance But since there's nothing in place even if we were to get these sites established unless there's an ordinance Then there's nothing to enforce I would also encourage if this comes back that We remove the word temporary for the from the outdoor living ordinance I think for many members of the public It was confusing many people thought that this was a temporary ordinance and my understanding is that it's not a temporary ordinance That it's an outdoor living ordinance So unless there's a sunset date that comes back with that ordinance To ensure that it's temporary Then that would also need to be changed And then I just want to explain to for especially for some of the new council members and members of the community who may be just joining us First time the establishment of subcommittees oftentimes occurs for specific items So for example, yes, we have a homeless two by two committee that's with the city and the county However, for example, the tolo never came there and we never Discuss the details of this with that group and oftentimes what can occur with the subcommittee is that If the subcommittee is put in charge for example of drafting an ordinance The subcommittee can go and do that outreach and engagement and work with the community to get feedback They can incorporate that feedback and then when they can when it comes to council They have an opportunity to say we've met with for example Ten groups throughout the community. We've met with homeless providers. We've met with all these people We've provided we've compiled the input from those meetings into this ordinance And this is what's before you today and that way it helps to build community confidence and community support Rather than it coming back every single time and we're making all sorts of changes So it's a way to have community engagements to also provide transparency And support and then to be able to bring it forward after you've been able to take into account some of the concerns coming from the community So I recognize that there are a lot of groups that we have that do community that that are, you know, working on homelessness But the purpose of recommending a subcommittee is because this is now It's either the third or fourth meeting we've had which has gone on very long And you know because of the way that the community responded to when it first came to us One of the reasons why I recommended the subcommittee is so that we cannot be back in that same position Bringing it forward again. So I just want to make some clear. I just want to clarify that's why I asked for the Subcommittee to be established and I do want to point out that should the council move forward with the May 6 Date to bring back an ordinance Or I'm sorry. It's may 11 If it was to come back on may 11 that means that on may 6 The agenda would need to be made public which means that the agenda report would be we need to go to The clerk on the 29th Which then leaves about Maybe close to two weeks for that public engagement to occur. And so I just want to you know, given that the ordinance We want to have meaningful community engagement. That means that that community engagement We we have a very short timeline for that engagement and that input to be incorporated into an ordinance So I just want to point all that out. And so I am Supportive of suspending the temporary outdoor living ordinance, but I have some concerns that I tried to dressing And so I won't be supporting the motion that's before us this evening Thank you council member coming soon. I just might clarify for the community that What will be coming back on may 11th will be a a new ordinance And it would be available for the first reading Um My understanding is the work Under number two is ongoing and would actually be done over many months Um, number two is not meant to be done before the ordinance Is prepared and submitted to council on may 11, but maybe City manager burnall couldn't comment on that Yes, actually that's that's what I was going to go to note that the With respect to the questions around implementation. Yes, the council that's the policy direction And Then this will come back to you in the form of a legislative action In in may and but then some of these other forbid pieces were continuing to work on And those will take you know, they're different implementation schedules and we will have to develop Plans with respect to the different components as well as outreach And communications as it moves forward and we'll also have updates to the city council. So all that is work that will come In the coming months and there'll be more more details as they're sorted out so the important thing is for the council to give us, you know, clear policy direction so that we can bring back the The legislative action that you need to take in and that so that we can then develop the implementation plans Thank you Okay, I'll go ahead and call on council member golder I appreciate everybody's comments, but I do agree that it's getting direction here as I'm moving forward with a new Ordinance is going to be time for Further review and I just think um your golden year calling the question Which basically just want to make sure everybody understands that would stop all further Discussion on the item and we would move to a vote Tony can It's a motion to call the question. So if it gets a second, then that stops all the My comments are quick Okay, I will stand corrected if the motion is adopted then it is um, then that stops all of it. So Um, just the making of the motion doesn't stop debate. Okay. So it looks like Council member walk-ins has a very brief comment and council member brown it looked like you had a brief comment or one more And okay, and then I think um, we will try to wrap this up We have I think several months to go on getting this ordinance done So this is not or this is just getting us started on a new ordinance And that direction, um, I think is Very well provided um mark, uh council member walk-ins and then council member brown No, thank you. Thank you mayor, and I'll keep my comments quick. I I I just want to sort of Building on what you said, I think what we're doing is looking at a continuous improvement approach, right? And for the community, I really want to highlight Sort of the key takeaways that we're not moving forward with the existing ordinance We're moving forward with programming We're going to prioritize engaging with the community and keep trying solutions And also ultimately try to prevent unmanage and transition commitments I also think that like so many like Polarizing issues that we see at the federal level whether it be like immigration or gun safety or health care I do believe we all really speak solutions And it's really tempting to go backward to a sign blame And I do believe that we need to learn from the past But we have to continue a pathway forward And I hope that moving forward knowing that this is something that we're going to continually try to Refine and modify and improve that we can we we can resist that instinct Um and try to just move forward with solutions And it's not sort of one sector or one component of the council It's really our entire council our entire community. Frankly. It needs to be our entire state Um that has the will to move forward with solutions Because it We can't afford to really politicize This issue or any other big issue That ultimately really needs real commitment So I'm committed and hopeful that we can continue to move forward and I'm I'm ready to vote on the items I'll I'll leave my comments. They're knowing that we're ready. We're all ready to vote on that at this point Okay, council member brown I um, I have a request that we Include as I request previously requested and I don't see it here Mutual aid groups after service providers in number two The service providers mutual aid groups And neighborhood groups Thank you um, so just a couple of things Uh, so um, vice mayor brunner. You mentioned the 2017 report. I actually when I said that that was one of them But we I was actually Participated in a task force in 2000 As a representative of the community action board Though that went and sat on the shelf and then we came back around so they're and then the catch as well. So there are three now Really really deliberative Efforts that produce documents with recommendations and people put in a whole lot of work. So I and and there is Are those previous ones are really reflected in the catch work But I I agree that um, it would be nice to Make sure that all of that is captured as we move forward as well And I will add that Well, I'm very heartened to be moving forward in this way Given that the um, the motion includes some things that I'm not comfortable with at this time I will be voting no, but I absolutely support items one and two and possibly the others once Other some stuff more is clarified Thank you councilmember brown Um, I just want to make uh for the motion maker I I was just rereading it and I think there's a correction that needs to be done bonnie down in number four Uh, it refers to uh section four until item one is accomplished. That should be a two great And then I just want to clarify um Mutual mutual aid Are you referring to like a group like the red cross sandy or salvation army or what exactly Maybe just for the public just so people understand which what a mutual aid group just that's just one of the question I had for you sure, so I am referring to um groups that are self-organized uh that engage with uh the um the affected communities that they're working in In ways that are you know, I mean, I guess I would just say it's it's much more grassroots. It's much more You know bottom up and not top down. I understand there's places for that as well, but I I just think um we You know ignoring them Ignoring those efforts. I mean they're happening right so and you can find I mean I could give you So an example of sanitation for the people. That's just one example. There are others. I'm happy to um provide A list if that would be helpful, but um, I'm not going to take time to look those up right now No, I um I just was I was just curious and I you know, it was really just a question. Um Are the is the maker of the motion? I just want to make sure that was clear. I didn't quite understand. I didn't know what the four I thought it was like red cross. So I just didn't know I have a question or a suggestion for a possible modification to The language of item two It just occurred to me that the word prioritize um with the where that um New language is inserted. It completely changes the meaning of the paragraph and so what I would suggest you consider is to Have the language read direct staff to engage with community to get input It's a delete to prioritize meetings And then reinserts to prioritize After the words affected To after the the red line language locations in Uh, Oritized setting up shelter safe sleeping locations. I think the intent was But when we clean it up It won't be red. It won't be It won't have these brackets. It'll it'll look different. So yes, we will Point is simply that the that the intent of the original language was to prioritize setting up adequate shelters So they seeping safe sleeping locations. It wasn't to prioritize getting input Although I recognize that's an important part of it But the priority or the emphasis on the original motion was to Prioritize setting up Shelter locations, right? Okay. So can you can you repeat then tony what you just said? Engage with community to prioritize For engage with community to and then delete prioritize Get input from people The language of councilmember brown's friendly amendment And then after the word potential locations At the bottom of that insertion To engage with community to delete to delete delete meetings to get Okay Or actually just delete and input community Right, right. Yeah And then after the word locations Right here Yeah, to prioritize setting up adequate shelter. That was the intent of the amendment I guess I would just look to the maker of the motion to confirm that Okay Read it one more time, and I think that's fine Yeah, that's fine Okay, um, I think we have done a lot of word smithing and I think um, we should move on to getting the vote done this evening We've been doing this now for four hours and it sounds like um, maybe we're ready to go And I had one question if possible Uh-huh The one question I did have I know in the in this it says that uh where it says that the sleeping sites um Can not not adjacent to residential areas or schools And then That includes 106 sleeping sites involving the river street shelter 12 20 river street and other I'm just curious and this is for the city attorney Um Is there a conflict in that because if we're saying that the sleep sleeping sites can't be Adjacent to neighborhoods residential areas, but 12 20 river is adjacent to the tannery. I just want to Make sure that Confirm that that's not contradictory Or is it The 12 20 riverside is actually quite a ways away from the Tannery. It's not adjacent. It does not sit adjacent to it. It's actually up by the pump station And I I checked I I did check and that I checked with staff and it seems that that is not contradictory And I I think what this process is intended to To do is to set up To establish a community dialogue whereby the specific sites will be will be Discussed with the community and these are general parameters not Not although I will add that Out of all the community outreach that was conducted that is a very clear Concern and you heard it tonight that that is that is a Measuring stick we need to keep track of Mayor if I if I could I think an and also would address councilmember Cummings so 150 safe sleeping spots And also involving the river street shelter 12 20 river street. There there is Some residential to the north Of 12 20 river. So I think just adding And also involving makes that clear. I mean the river street shelter has You know family housing there as well, I think just doing an end also would address that is That helps I guess my question is that Are we trying to accept it? Yeah, it is the maker of the motion We are really getting into wordsmithing which I've heard Bonnie a couple times now say she will Yeah, get to a vote at this point. Yeah, I think I think we're ready Let's go ahead and and take a vote on this so We have a motion by councilmember colantar johnson Moved by councilmember colantar johnson seconded by councilmember walk-ins to direct staff to suspend enforcement of council adopted temporary outdoor living or And direct staff to return to council with the recommended implementation plan including the below and a new ordinance on may 11th And the items below Include directing staff to engage with the community To get input from people who work with the houseless directly including service providers mutual aid groups and neighborhood groups Who may be affected by potential locations to prioritize setting up adequate shelters safe sleeping locations on city-owned properties Including but not limited to 150 safe sleeping spots not adjacent to residential areas or schools that includes creation This will be cleaned up of 150 safe sleeping spots and also involving the river street shelter 1220 river street and Other city facilities slash city parking lots as necessary to be determined by staff and there was acceptance for an amendment that Provides further definitions of what a safe sleeping spot would include in that would include water hand washing trash and restroom Number three restrictions on daytime encalements with implementation of the daytime property storage program And then for enforcement of nighttime prohibition to be conditioned on availability of alternative shelter options And to be deferred until item two is accomplished in safe sleeping programs are operational After which the city would prohibit camping in all other city areas other than City permitted indoor shelters safe sleeping locations and managing campments to be run by non-profit faith-based community and county partners partners Um, could I have a roll call vote, please? Yeah, I just want to make sure the motion includes this right this part Oh, yes, i'm sorry. Okay. Okay. I just wanted to make sure Okay councilmember Watkins Thank you money. Yes, I Kellan tarry johnson No, but I want to register yes on items one and two No, and similarly I'd like to register Yes, but yes on items one and two Yes, mayor brunner Hi That motion Grab my starting to say here favor and two opposed Um, well, I just want to thank the public for hanging in there with us this evening. Um, this concludes our meeting tonight and Our meetings adjourned. Thank you Good night, everybody. Good night. Thank you. Good night. Thank you