 And I'm excited because today I have my friend Nana from Georgia joining me. Hi, Nana Hi Nana's been on quite an inward journey on the spiritual journey and We thought we would join today and and maybe you could share a little bit about how that journey has gone for you because Yeah, I'm sure people are interested too being from Georgia, which is really like Pretty close to the like the Middle East This is probably the first interview. I've had with somebody from over there I've had a friend who was at a CC where St. Francis was and I had a friend Amanda from the cave of Mary Magdalene But you're you're a little closer to to where Jesus walked That's kind of that's kind of exciting. How how has it been for you on this spiritual journey? Oh It's I don't know I don't know really describes how it feels to me Yeah, I don't even know what to share but Yeah, it's different Because I don't really have anyone like my mom dealt the course as well But other than that no one is really interested in this kind of thing But even the spirituality, but I think it's just my perception, but Yeah, when I was at university, I think that I think I was always searching and I always thought connected to Jesus, but that's pretty sure Searching or seeking face started. I think when I was at university And I was reading different things Yeah, and then when I finished the university, I knew that I didn't want to continue studying I Thought I had this prayer like I want to do whatever I feel in my heart to do So but at the time I didn't feel anything So it's just okay. I'm gonna I'm just gonna stop so I went deeper and deeper into that and Even before the course I was into new age things. I Was listening to some people and I was like I was a rear of my emotions and many different things we're coming up like in terms of emotions and Like I got to the point when I didn't know how to deal with those emotions like a lot of guilt and fear and different things and I felt like even listening to those people was not helpful anymore. I was like, okay I'm listening to this video and it helps at this moment But when it's it's finished and it's I washed it like then I don't have anything to focus on So it's like really praying for it was like at that time was praying to my spirit guides But I was really praying like I need something like I have all these emotions like intensity coming up and I need something That will be helpful for this how to deal with these emotions like I need something that will work I don't I don't want those kind of love and light those kind of things I don't I can't read those kind of things anymore. Like I went I went something practical and Then after that like that moment, I think Like in a week or so I just found the course and I was really suspicious. I had a lot of resistance I was like, what is this thing? Like can I read it? This weird like I because I I read a lot of weird things You just like new age stuff and everything it's really aliens and everything I was into those kind of things But I was like I was very suspicious, but I started with the workbook. I have not read anything I just started with the workbook, but I was giving everything to it like every lesson I was just fully Immersing myself into it and I was using every like those kind of workbook lessons For every emotions that was coming up and I think after 10 Days like after working like the course was like, this is really work So this was like what I needed I guess like I Didn't need any practical like theory of something I needed something that would work and after I gave my mind to every lesson as it worked I was like, okay, and then I started reading the course after Several months. I like I found you like I I had you like I saw your account, but I was like you have been Like smiling image on the account, but like why is he smiling? I didn't like that I Think I had resistance. Yeah, but I would listen to some something one video is it's really touched me and I just Yeah, I just started listening to you and I was learning a lot of things from you because I have not even read the course completely I just read some chapters. So the The ideas that we are like later in the course Was coming from you? Like I was I was hearing about them from you for the first time So it was really interesting and I feel like it was a shortcut like in Instead of me figuring out what was what meant like those what were what we had those ideas. I was like You are giving me like really clear Relonation so it but it was real beautiful and even after the course like I started the course I felt like Drone to Jesus more and more because from from my childhood like from the childhood that I felt really connected to Jesus But I had a lot of unworthiness. I felt like Okay, like this small girl like what Jesus can Has to do with me like I'm not important and all the unworthiness but I feel like He was always under my mind because I was just inspired by him the love that He symbolized really and I think At the end of every day, I there was no no no day when he would not come to my mind like I just Oh He would always come to my mind even when I was just before I would go to sleep like oh Jesus And even when I was afraid or something he was like I was just praying and praying and praying So I is that why I felt always connected to him But I had that kind of block of unworthiness, which I still have I feel like I'm moved through that emotion but I Had that as well But I have I had beautiful experiences with me even before the chorus when I was just praying I would just pray for skills like I wanted to express myself in some way and I would just pray oh Jesus I want to write something. I want to express myself that way and after some time I find myself just writing and writing and writing and finding new words and new ways to express myself and same with the Paintings like I would just like just say that I want to paint Jesus I want to pay and then it would happen after some time I would just start like felt inspired to paint and to me It was a miracle like I was saying to my friend like I believe in miracles like those kind of things happen to me So it was like kind of on and off relationship or connection with him and just before I found the course I had I like he was coming from every angle like even the video of YouTube videos He was appearing everywhere. Everyone was channeling him basically Like what is happening and even the book said I would I would I would read like There there would be his name like Jesus and it was like it would be so emphasized in my mind it would feel so sparkly and After the life after I found the course it was like a permission everything that was Setting the course in the beginning chapters. It's just gave me permission to connect with him more deeply So every day I would feel drawn to just stay and meditate on him like his name was just his presence and I said after that like my heart started opening up and feeling his presence more and more and Then I found you and I found the community and Like I applied for a volunteer program and Everything unfolded from there. But yeah, it's for me. Everything is based on the connection with Jesus Because when I'm going through the intensity like I can't really focus on any ideas. I can't really focus on anything I just have this Desire as you can to feel connected and I always wanted to I always I would just dream like I would oh I wish I was born two thousand years ago and I would be disciple of Jesus and Now I feel like that's what it's happening. He's not physically like here But that's what I feel like that's the call for me And I that's what what inspires me really to connect with him and to leave for him I feel like on my life when I want my life to be the demonstration of his presence and And Yeah to just give my life to him and just to fill his presence to hear his voice and to follow his guidance That's what we really would touch is my heart and Then I was sometimes I receive these thoughts from him like Yes, whatever you want in your heart really really want that's what your life is about and sometimes you can come in like that's Impossible that feels too too high or you are too unworthy to hear his voice or whatever But then I it always comes back whatever you want in your heart that what your life is for And that's possible because you want it in your heart. That's what like your life is about Now like oh, yeah, thank you and all these Ideas that what's really what really comes as a feeling is like it's already done It's like It's already happened I don't know how like how to explain it's just a feeling and it always comes like I don't know whenever I connect with him Like you can't just relax. This is already done. You can just relax. You can just relax This was I receive I guess that's what is the most helpful thing to just release the anxiety and being Thought that I have to do something really and Wow That's comforting it is done. It is done It's like the prayer that I will be done and then Jesus keeps saying it is done. So It comes with a relaxation I think yeah, and it's so beautiful because that the prayer of your heart sounds like a prayer I think I remember reading in the Bible where Jesus was saying something to the effect that if anyone Should ask something of me and ask truly It it was it is done. It shall be given It's that sincere heart just the prayer of the heart and it sounds like you have such a great Connection with Jesus even before you go to sleep, you know, are you do you feel his presence? You can say anything to Jesus you can receive the the nurturing reassurance and and and now I think I Think like you're sharing like everyone we kind of get activated to be a disciple or to be the extension of Jesus on earth and so I know this morning you had messaged me and said you had a social media call so you had a little Conversation and how is that go for you? You there it's just an open meeting with lots of things that are shared or Some ideas or some function. Is it something where you feel like you're extending? Is it is it something where you feel Jesus is able to come through you in that way to extend like an invitation. Oh My gosh Yeah, that's like I feel like that was like and he's part of my mind training like Like that Even to get in touch with the intuition and what's like the steps to take even smallest things like when you design But when you when I'm working on the design or something of the image or quotes like Everything it comes down to that like what do I feel in my heart? which like and the prayer and extension and There is so much giving like and I feel like so grateful like At this moment like I Connected with Marina and I feel so so so grateful because it feels like our hearts are joined It's like my prayer is her prayer and it's like this pure giving and She's joining me in mind. It's built so so deep and Yeah, it gets deeper and deeper and deeper and deeper really even The whole team really how we connect it gets deep like the communication becomes more specific and more deep and It's like we all want to go deeper and it's just Beautiful, I feel like that was like when I started like really Wailing to ring and even when I started the course It was like I'm I live with my family So there are there are some things going on like dramas or things coming up for me Emotions and everything and it was like a huge part of like my mind training to focus on That's like Extending and to focus on Jesus and to focus on connection having calls just joining and sharing thoughts and extending But it was like it is blessing and even just sharing sometimes I'm like, how can I give Jesus and there's there is something to share and I just share and share and it feels like extending really and then sometimes like how can I give Jesus and then Something like call comes in or something. It's really like everything is given really and even in terms of Like healing deep healing like lately. I went through so much healing even in that context of social media team It was like so I would like there was this expression I think Jean shared during the retreat as well We had a call and everything something was not moving and we joined and Thing exploded in my mind all this pride Like I saw the all this pride and all this I know mind and how things work and everything exploded and I just It was like a mask coming down really and after that like I don't know Like I know I don't feel like how anything works our relationships work our collaborations work How should I express myself? Which is the right thing? Which I don't know. It's like it comes down to the prayer Again because it felt so intense. It's like so much pride But then the idea that I shared them and expose them openly felt so Like oh my god, I can't believe it. I can't believe I did that and then it's like It still comes down to that connection with Jesus Oh, I went to but like because it feels intense. It's like a such a heat literally and then Like oh at some point I was like, oh, I need to go like I go. I need to go within I I need to anchor myself and uses his presence otherwise It's first to intense and it's both like too much. I'm working then pride changes into unworthiness and everything And it's like this comes down to prayer again like Jesus like what is your will for me? And what you would you have me do because I feel like that was like some kind of layer released I feel like I'm not not I'm not more clueless, but it's like for Jesus. It's the best Condition really to come through. So I'm like no, I'm clueless and I don't really know and I'm like, I don't know Jesus. I'm scared I Can't really believe that it was like just collaborating like the most Collaboration can be so deep even just to share things because I have this pattern of I can I can go always like I can be seen And then I have periods when I went to hide and now it's There are these functions in social media. I can't really hide like Jesus is like, you need to share this go back It's not really helpful It feels like coming out of the pattern of hiding and unworthiness like even to be seen by people that all ego loves that of course Oh, I do this important thing, but the flip side is like, oh, I'm seen like by those all these people like sharing all the time It's like, oh my god, I want to hide but it's like no I just keep just keep going keep going keep sharing. So it was a huge lesson as well. Yeah, like just showing up Yeah, and how Jesus can use social media if you had a pattern or tendency to hide Wow social media is a what a tool to undo the hiding pattern. It just flips it on its head Yeah, well, it's beautiful too because I think I just see your approach is really just Your connection with Jesus and I did a live Very recently with Lucy Lucy Ricks and she said, oh, there's from the the same actor Jonathan Rumi Who's who's on the chosen who plays Jesus? He's doing a movie. It's coming out around February 23rd or Somewhere between there and Easter and so I clicked on it and I saw an interview and And the man who played Frazier Crane on on TV first in Cheers as a therapist and then in his own own show called Frazier he was on there and He was sharing that he was really questioning was that had career have any meaning What's it all about? He got into one of those states of mind wondering if his his career had any worth is it finished? What's it all about and then he he just prayed and he just said please help me just please help me and he was praying to Jesus and then the next day the The producers or whatever of this movie that's coming out next year Contacted him and said we want you to be in the movie and he had tears Just sharing about it because another man said wow that was really a direct answer to prayer But it sounds like for you how it goes you You just have a running prayer with Jesus and then when you need Help or something you you ask you ask what is what is this for me? Or can you help me with this be with me or however it comes and then You keep receiving answers including the course When you were saying I need something practical. I need something more than just watching a video I need something that will work and then That's the best thing is it you you're like At first it was a little hesitation because it's like what is this thing? Is this is this another strange weird thing which is not difficult to Hear because a lot of people have that reaction adverse like what is this? but then Just because it worked just because you started picking up and doing the lessons and they were working day by day That says a lot and that's it seems like that's so that's a way to wake up is just pray and And see what works and when it does work stay with it just keep keep going Yeah, yeah, I feel like prayer is really like prayers are always answered I I noticed that more and more like every prayer I make So even that thing that happened expression with in the social media like I had prayers about communication I had prayers about different things like I was like Jesus. I want to let go of these I want to let go of this and then this explosion happened I feel like I expose this thing like self-concept or something like Every prayer is really really answered but not in the ways that we expect because I did not expect that To happen to me either like like sometimes you you think that it will happen in a nice way But sometimes something needs to be exposed that needs to be exposed basically in order for you to be free So even even before the course like I remember I was going to my teacher and I loved walking and I would just start Like when I would start walking I would just ask a question in my mind And I just then I would just start walking and walking and then I would receive the answer And it's it would happen constantly like and I was like, oh my god. I'm receiving answers in my mind But now it gets like deeper and deeper like deeper questions and deeper prayers and deeper answers So it's really like yeah, and I feel like as I look back like Jesus all was always there Guiding me even in terms of expressing and releasing things before I joined Like the community before I had anyone to express my feelings or thoughts I was just I was I always loved writing As I mentioned, but it kind of changed and now I started writing about my feelings and all the thoughts that I had Just and it would just feel like I was I would just release them. I would not take them seriously So all these ideas like how to use even writing or painting Just I just started painting with black and white really Releasing dark emotions and slowly slowly shifted and I started using colors and everything all those kind of details I feel like Jesus was always guiding me like always was there. So it's like and now I see that all the prayers I really answered sometimes I'm like I need to be careful with my prayers Because it's really deep and they are really always always answered and sometimes it's it takes patience because sometimes I I may have some ideas like what is my prayer even about coming to Mexico and everything and then it's like I feel like I can make a prayer. I can feel something in my heart But I need to release that attachment as well Like I need to release those expectations and something will be in a specific way and I just Need to accept whatever is given in this moment and just work that like accept the lesson basically and Like the lesson of love in this moment. We are ever I am whatever I'm doing So, yeah, it's really deep That's beautiful So you're able it's able to work for you. You're living with your family there in Georgia And did you Did you start out when you went to university where did you come from russia or or moscow? Where did you grow up and then before did your family migrate? Um, we moved here when I was three years old So, um, yeah, we lived here basically Yeah, so you've gone to it. It was it was quite quite like divine arrangement I don't know how to say that like my family. We're not really going to stay here But it so happened like circumstances arranged in a way that we had to stay here. So yeah, yeah, I grew up here Yeah, that's kind of how it happened with fava. She she was born in iceland, but then Her family her father was like a plumber and the conditions working outside in iceland as a plumber outdoor plumbing with Hot tubs or whatever. It just was too intense at some point. So the family migrated To denmark with the intention of returning To iceland, but never went back. So it seems like it's all part of a pre-arranged plan like it's all done And and our job is to really just accept what's what's presented and given and and let the spirit Use all the symbols and so it's worked very well I know I stayed in my parents basement for for many years. I was reading studying Doing so many things I kind of moved from the bedroom down to the basement and People would say well, you're going to university and everything. Where are you living? You know, well by parents basement and and then it seemed even more important when I started to go deeper with the course Because it was like a little cave An underground cave where I could just pray and pray as much as I needed to without uh concern for Handling a lot of things and so it really it was actually a great blessing. I'm always grateful to jesus for For giving me that opportunity so I could go much deeper And then yeah, I think you've had that that blessing as well Yeah, yeah, to be honest. I wanted to run away because all my deep Emotions and hearts and those kind of things are coming like really in these relationships coming up in these relationships And I wanted to run But at some point I needed to accept that I I'm here. So I should be here so I needed to accept and once like I feel like I started to Extend my prayers in here as well Like jesus use everything that we are doing even daily things like things small things that we are doing like using that for guidance as well Once I started doing that and because my my mom does the course as well. So I started joining with her as well and It's like using everything for prayer and guidance So once I started to include this space as well into that for guidance And to tune into the intuition really It's like shifted and sometimes I'm like, oh, thank you jesus for keeping me here Like this is a miracle and sometimes it's intense. So like I went to run away, but Yeah, it's like Then it came down to okay. I have this deep darkness triggered by them then Like my if my purpose healing I want to heal this so I'm gonna stay here as long as I'm I need to stay here to heal and to look at all these things and to move all the things that need to come out So, yeah, it's kind of shifted my once my attitude shifted really and I started accepting Um, whatever was in front of me all the relationships and not thinking about what could be different Once I did that my experience with jesus and the course changed really Like really changed because at the beginning I was angry like because I wanted to be somewhere else and now like It's kind of shifted and like I can't be grateful where I am right now and I can't receive miracles here I don't need to be anywhere else. So Yeah, it's really beautiful. It's like we don't know which is best for us For our best interest. Yeah it's interesting when I went to Canary islands one time to visit a friend of mine. She's now a pretty Famous worldwide Spanish teacher Of a course of miracles. Her name is susanna ortiz. But when I went to visit her Her daughter claudia Wanted to take off school She said, oh david's coming and we're gonna Spend about a week with david and so her daughter claudia said, well, I'm not going to school then I'm Wherever you're going with david. I'm gonna be there too. And then her mother Who was very much into the course. Well, she's I'm I'm coming too. So we had the three generations In the car with me taking me around the grand canary And I said, I'll be the dj. I'll play the the music on the radio And but that was three generations so so like with your mother did she Was she introduced to the course in some way through you either directly or indirectly? I Yeah, I basically I started when I started the course like at the beginning even when I started spirituality I wanted to force anyone to like accept those ideas But then I had like let go like no, it's just not for everyone So I just need I don't I need to let go of control So I was like reading the course really like all the time and my mom would see it and she would go Like she had some intensities as well like emotions and everything and she was I could see she was searching for the answer But I did not know if the course was the right answer for her because I felt like It can be too radical for her. I don't know if she's ready or not So it was my my prayer was okay, jesus. It's up to you I don't want to do like I don't want to do anything like I don't want to control the situation I don't want to be the one who introduces the course and then Like thinking if it's the right thing or not like is she ready or not? So I just gave the situation like fully to jesus and she's She speaks right like she speaks Georgian as well But she her language is russian so she does not understand english And they're like she needed like russian like course in russian as well And I remember I asked linda as well like is there any copy in russian? And it did not work out either like nothing happened So I was like, okay jesus is up to you and then What happened was she found the course in russian herself and she found the people I think they are connected to you in some way or they are just listening to your teachings like in russia So they are like she found those people and she found the course in some way It's like she she she knew what I was reading She could see it but she was even asking me like different things But I didn't know what if she was ready or I did not know how to answer I was like, I don't want to be in charge of this. I don't want to be responsible I don't want to decide anything especially for someone else seemingly So it's like she found on like she found herself basically the course and then she found you as well She listens to you all the time. She like she listens to translations like subtitles and everything she reads them And she really loves you and she asked a lot of questions As well. I'm like, oh my god. I'm not a teacher. I didn't know what Like I know but I just accepted the role as well as a beginning. I had huge resistance like Jesus I don't want to teach. I don't have the right answer. I feel lost myself Like I didn't answer but now it's just became An opportunity to join really and share whatever comes to my mind and just I don't know it's up to Jesus So it's it's beautiful in a way. Yeah Yeah, it's interesting all these little connections because I was traveling quite a few years ago Maybe in the early 2000s down to georgia in the united states, you know near florida and and South carolina and everything and then I met a woman from russia named tanya tanya moldovan down there and she got so excited that she even invited me to come and and do a Do a retreat in georgia the georgia down in the states. So so I went there I did it and she got so excited that she said I want to share this with all my friends in russia I have a lot of I know of a lot of course of miracles Students in Moscow and st. Petersburg. So please how can I share these teachings and I said well Uh, I have a lot of videos, but you could write to my friend jp and he could tell you how to upload Russian translations subtitles onto The the videos and then yeah, I've heard that there's quite a few people are still in Moscow and And in st. Petersburg that are following along quite a very earnest group That are studying and watching the video. So now it comes full circle your mother who Who moved to georgia? Is is connected to me through tanya who I did the I met in georgia in the states So jesus is just using all the The symbols in a kind of a playful way like haha. Did you like that touch? Did you see that little one? It's like we don't know the big picture, but he's laughing all the time Making all these little connections for us Yeah, yeah, even even like I would never think that She was like any my family members would be interested in the course. I was like at that at that point I was like, okay. I'm not gonna have any expectations and it felt like Oh, this is so deep. I don't know if they will ever read it or will study it But it's it was such a surprise and It was just a weakness to my mind because it's like now I can join with her and Like it's a beginning like with the people pleasing and everything. I had this huge Wave like when I started saying no, like it was like an accepted Bull or I don't know. It's just to do for me to do things like I was expected to do things So when I got in touch with the guilt and fear and like I was doing things from there Uh, I just started saying no She at the beginning before she found the course. She would say that's so selfish like Like what it's like for family you have to do these things and I was just saying no And then she found the course and I was and she was like, oh now I understand Why you were saying no and now she started saying no as well when when she does not feel to do something She just says says no. So it was like such a shift like at the beginning. She was like, I don't understand I want to understand you but I really honestly don't understand. How can you do these and It's kind of shifted and she was like, oh, I understand now Yeah, it's kind of yeah Beautiful reflection that brings a warmth to my heart to know that over In your house in georgia the no people pleasing Thing is working out very well and you started it with the no And then your mom got into the course and was like, oh now I see And so what a that's that that's how prayers are answered you let go of the expectations That's your mom needed to understand or get into the course and then you just Practice yourself with your with your mind and your mind training and then what a what a beautiful reflection that is now for you Yeah It's beautiful and it's deep as well because when she says no, I have fear as well What will happen? This this family will fall fall apart. I don't know what will happen, but it's so healing It's so deep. It's like layers and layers and layers. So it's yeah Yeah, yeah Well, that's exciting. It just feels like You're just in a place now where you're able to share and extend You've come to more acceptance with that. You've you've seen it instead of Something you have to do it's more the answer to prayer and then that also leads the future wide open You know to wherever jesus Seems to want you to be or how jesus wants you to share Then yeah, it's like it. It's like that feeling if it's your it's in your hands jesus So you uh lead the way and then that you can feel very content when you're in that prayer Yeah Yeah, I really I really feel like I want to be used But then like yeah jesus, just use me and I know that I will at least like these like feelings that I will be used But please like everything needs time like not not time but these patience and everything happens It's a perfect timing with the perfect timing and when like I need to go through healing right now So it's perfect as well. So it's like I have a feeling that I like I didn't know I have a feeling that I will be used fully but everything happens it's the Right time and also not maybe in a way that I expect so I'm just Yeah, I just I just focus on that like oh this this feeling of this knowing that I will be used And I want to be used and I want to be I want to live with that like I just just keeping this purpose and This connection in my heart just focusing on that is really everything like it kind of Releases all the fog and all the doubt if I focus on that And if I commit to that fully and if I trust and if I know that I want this in my heart So it will be done. It is done Then it's kind of I can relax now and I can trust that the next step will be given Like that's what I've learned really all the time from you It's like all the content that goes out from the social media is just for my mind like I just wake up sometimes and if I have guilt Just Jesus just gives me these hints from your content Like if you shared something during the workshop about innocence or something It just comes to my mind and it just I just make small snippet out of it. So it's like a huge way of extending even and I always felt like I wanted to extend in a creative way something that will have that element of creativeness But I was like I don't have anything like content and now I have your content everything that you share And it's like oh my god, there is this deep purpose and this deep content and I can I can feel this fulfillment in my heart as well in terms of creativeness and everything Comes or everything comes together and just sharing like when you feel inspired you want to extend automatically It just happens you want to share the good news So it's like then we share it and it's so so beautiful and so Yeah, it's you feel so content like oh my gosh, this is so deep It's like even Jesus knows my heart what I want because I did not have any I did not have any intentions to do what I do even inform like even in terms of function But it's just I was guided and I was like step by step And I was like Jesus knows what what I really want in my heart Even if I don't know like even if I'm not aware of it So it's really beautiful to observe That as well. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I think I think a lot of us have had that feeling like we know somewhere deep down that That if I can share a deep content and it can have an artistic or expressive component married with it like when I would even do an early app where we would have a saying from Me or the course come up with a beautiful image behind it and then just go to the or the oracle or the The the moment and and another beautiful piece of art and another beautiful expression And it being spontaneous people tell me yeah oracle. That's that's not random Wow, that's helped me every time I I go to the oracle and I'm praying sincerely for help and I think it's beautiful that you can You can do that where like you say you don't really need to do it or send it unless you feel it you feel the swirl In your heart and that's what the whole thing's about this intuitive connection where you feel this swirl of lightness and Enjoy in your heart and then it just automatically comes through And and takes away this idea of a doer, you know that the you know that we've come To this world with the idea that we have to do things, you know, we should Do things and this is washing it away like sounds like every day You have more opportunities to just get rinsed In the mind yeah Yeah, and it's it's it's good it gets at the beginning. I want you to do things and I was doing a lot of things but now it gets more and more subtle and it's like it feels like mine to becomes more sensitive and it's like Oh, I don't really feel this like even to make some kind of image like not something is not Something does not click so it does not feel good. So I just leave it and it's just Yeah, it feels like it's my mind becomes more less tolerant to Do things out of it to the happiness really and I just want to do Things when I feel them to do and yeah, just to share Yeah from that place I think that's the key you were talking about patience But when you're prayerful and you let go of all the shoulds and not to's and heft to's Then what's left is this like flowering warm glowy feeling which is which is Really an extension of what's in your heart and and I think that's the big transition that human beings go through Where they just have to feel Safe and they have give themselves permission and and allowance to Just be a hundred percent intuitive and Just do what really feels right in in the heart without any second thought Of bouncing it off of something or getting oh, I need feedback for this or is this okay That thought disappears. Is this okay? When you're when you're in your joy and you feel it and that that's everything that's the whole thing right there I think you gave me permission to do that because like I'm listening to your ideas all the time And it's like you talking about Being intuitive. I'm like, yeah, I want to do that. I want to do that it's like a permission for my mind because I don't have that kind like Like I I I have I did not have that kind of idea when I was growing up Like you have to do this because it's the obligations is this for the family This is for this this is for that and listening to you It's so like change like just changed my mind so much just listening to you It's just and giving my mind fully to those teachings like being intuitive like It feels so sparkly and it's like so in so much in my heart like yes I want to do that. I want to do that and also to notice the resistance To that as well. It's this whole package, but yeah, it feels so good Yeah, yeah It seems like that's come become more and more like what I call it like almost like a digital community as I used to Even years ago, I would I would ask the people I'm here at the monastery and I would ask If there was like 30 People here. I would I would say, how did you find me or this place and like 90 95 percent of the people would say youtube I would say really I mean I was kind of you know, wow, that's amazing And then here you are in a rural monastery in In utah, but when you've been saying Being part of the community that We really are connected very deeply by jesus, but it's it's kind of using the the internet and the digital medium, so it's It's not like when people think of family Or even maybe the community word You know people can think in terms of physicality and proximity And what we're experiencing is jesus is using all of us Is part of a big dance a happy dance and and it doesn't really involve proximity Like when I was growing up when I was a child or a teenager or even in my 20s if people had said Um, if they'd put the word spiritual community together, I would just say what's what's that You know, I mean I had gone to a church when I was younger and I was confirmed in a in a christian church And you know we we had to take holy communion and we things like that and then you know, we would call fellowship where we would You know have a fellowship hall and be together in the church But but that was still very very physical in my mind, you know that And if somebody said spiritual community, I would have just been curious like What is that? That sounds a little weird if they ask me as a child or teens or 20s I say what's that something weird And I think even now people, you know when when we we talk about the community I'm sure there are people watching that are going What's this weird community thing? What's what's not i'm gonna say now she's talking about Joining the community. Oh gosh join the community. What's that mean? So we're we're always like heavy jesus power rinsed the mind of Like you said earlier being clueless, you know, we What does it mean to join? I don't know, but i'm gonna find out What does it mean to be a community? I don't know, but I i'm going to find out You know, that's kind of our the way we go. We're kind of like little children. Well, okay Show me because we're not getting caught in the words anymore We're not pushing them away or we're not clinging to them either It's beautiful That's gorgeous. Here we are just just uh, but as they say riffing we're riffing for jesus Well, thank you so much this has been such a delight and and I've had some people commenting to me recently Just saying oh my gosh, i'm i'm just loving of these live live streams live broadcasts because there's so much joy And uh, i'm glad because it's very spontaneous for me I just saw you online this morning and I sent you a quick message and you said oh i've got a A social media meeting in 13 minutes. I said, okay, let me know when you're out and then boom here we are So, uh, we're we're in function, but but this is so uh spontaneous, you know, we We don't plan these things. I don't have any agendas or any kind of a list In front of me just boom. We're on on the air. So Thank you nana. Thank you for being with me today It's just a blessing. It's a blessing to know you. I mean really heart to heart Okay, well, thank you everybody. Thank you for joining us. See you soon