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Exactly So he really held that down He did, he represented it to the fullest man Yeah, and pimp Ken here man, this right here, this here go way back with me I told him about the story every time I seen him afterwards man We was at the DGs one night And I had the blue hat on Yeah And I told him I didn't want the DVD, I didn't want it at the time I was like, I don't want it, man, I get it, I'm trying to shuck and jive I'm gonna get it from you man, he said, man, I'm gonna follow that blue hat to you by this DVD Yeah, that's me, that's me And the next morning we ended up in Tunica, Mississippi I don't know how, I didn't plan it, I didn't know him, so there ain't no way we could have planned it The next morning he was going to some, I think they had something at that casino for pimps And he seen me in the store and he said, hey, I told y'all gonna follow that Man, I bought her up and bought that DVD Oh yeah, yeah, that's a powerful shit there man Mentally baby We didn't even plan it, it was like dang man, I couldn't see it happening But pimp Ken, I heard you on that one song man Boy, that song right there, man listen, man, that two type of digital coca-pepsi But the part that tripped me out when you say it about the black girl pushing the car, man I don't know how you come up with this stuff, man You know, I don't know if you meant that this is easier to work with her or yours Let's see, you know, in the game, right You know, we look at it like, you know, white bitches, brother days, black bitches, darker days But it's not that we don't like the black bitches, you know what I'm saying We love our sisters But, you know, white girls, it's just like, you know, you got Peruvian flake And then you got that dust, you know what I'm saying, that's that Peruvian flake So what that means is that white girls can go into the holiday end of the height And they not gonna get sweated with a black girl coming in and saying, excuse me, might help you, man So you know, that's why we say they that Peruvian flake, that all American hunky We call it the funky hunky, the coca-pepsi went to persuasion, you know what I'm saying So that we call that for a reason because, you know, white girls really do make more money You know what I mean, because tricks will spend more money with their own kind than they would with a black bitch You know, they look at a black bitch like a piece of shit, you know, like this nigga bitch, you know what I'm saying They look at a white girl like they might look at their wife or, you know, their daughter or, you know, their girlfriend You know, and they want a girlfriend experience with the white girl But they know the black girl is only a temporary pleasure, you see what I'm saying So, you know what I mean, being a pimp, you know, and being a psychiatrist And being a scientist, I understand the science of white girls So when we big up in the white girls, we just saying, listen, man, if you're gonna pimp, man You know what I'm saying, we do some reverse slavery Mash on that white bitch like an out of hole potato, you know what I'm saying Yo, give it to her, you know what I'm saying, give it to her Give it to her, give it to her Lay out the sisters, man Yeah, man, lay out the sisters, man How did you meet Pimp C? Give me the story Man, I meant to get them all sharp time, man Wait a minute, before you start I got something to add on to that after you finish I meant to get them all sharp time, man And I see this dude, right, and he got on some mink shoes I got on a mink coat I said, man, those some cold shoes, you said, man, that's a coat So I looked up and he looked at me He said, man, you pimp a kid, ain't you? I said, you pimp C, ain't you, man We never separated for that point I went over to Mama House, man And we was over there, man We watching some of the movies I had coming out And we just talked, man He wanted me to break the game down for him He said, Ken, how you do that? And he was amazed with my skills and my knowledge of the game Because pimp knew the game But he didn't understand it in depth He had been into some encounters with some pimps But anybody that tells the truth I was the best that really did it Got away with it, I mean, I really did it big Really big, big, big So you know what I'm saying? Do you remember what year it was? Man, you know, I can't Now, it might have been Now, I don't want to quote this But I know it had to be after 99 Okay, okay But I'm going to tell you all a story Before I was really into the pimp See shit, the UGK shit I think that that instruction album I think we all end up on the same album So if you listen to that instruction album That was in 2000 But Jermaine Dupri did it in 99 It came out in 2000 So before I even met pimp We was on the album together Yeah, okay, okay And when you Had you heard of Pimpsy? Well, you know, I used to write it Parking stones, yeah I used to write it Parking stone was the one But I didn't know him I didn't even know who them niggas was You know what I mean? I just liked the pocket full of stones You know, cause, you know We riding in the hood That was some hood shit you ride You know what I'm saying? That was it Pocket full of stones is the one That really traveled all over the country That means the society soundtrack Had that pocket full of stones on it And it went everywhere, man Yeah, yeah, yeah I remember riding to that motherfucker Man, hold up Man, you know, that one was the one But I told you that That tell me something good With that sample Oh, yeah That was the one for me Shaka Khan Yeah, man, that was the one When I heard it, it messed me up Man, let me tell you a funny story, right? Me and PMC I only know him as the rapper, right? But we cool We kicking it every day, right? Man, this motherfucker got to sing it I was like, what the fuck? Let me tell you something Man, that nigga's singing This motherfucker, that's all bad Let me tell you something, Ken And he strayed away from it For a long, long time When I first moved to Port Arthur Let me tell you a story Everybody in town You know how to smile Port Arthur So everybody knew each other Rudy Bohanin was my brother-in-law You know Rudy Bohanin had the restaurant? Yeah, that's my brother-in-law So when I first moved Everybody was saying how Chad had He had recorded a song On his Asteroom machine It was called Jenny Hold on, I want to get it right now Jenny just don't want to say no Okay And it was all him singing Right? And people from high school Would just call his His house phone Just to hear that song And it was just ringing all night Ringing all night Ringing all night Everybody in town knew about that song Jenny just don't want to say no So at first I heard he didn't Really like that high-pitched voice Like that I don't know what Hey man, listen man That motherfucker can sing, man That motherfucker can sing See, see Once you get close to him He get to just reveal it She said, man, that's me on Masterpiece song That's me on this song Dawg, that ain't you Yeah it is I mean he's killing it too Right? And I didn't know how many songs That he had That he He was doing the hooks I thought it was somebody else Because it only, you know His character I remember I remember P.M.C. He had asked a service to I just got to say this So P.M.C. asked a service to Yeah man, this P.M.C. Man, I made some changes Man, if I don't call you back He wanted to change So we called So I called the nigga I said, this nigga ain't Calling me back Hey man, that nigga was funny Man, that was a funny day So Ken, those I heard you tell that story Before about Charleston You know those shoes I got them shoes He gave them to them Oh, you got them? Oh, shit man I mean them, man The Morris The Morris The Morris The Morris The Black one He gave them to me Right before we passed Really? I don't know shoes, man Wow That's crazy That's the stuff I be hearing I can't make that shit up I can't make that shit up No, you can't I hope it has some Melidity But that's the reason It's so important to pull these I know, you know I'm having Ken I'm like, man I'm a Carl Bobo I just want to bring it together Because this is This is what the people need to see Exactly I'm being real But you know what But you know what's crazy More than that What? I had a modeling for Murray I was the I modeled for Murray If you go there Get the source All that That was me with the suit With the sand They had the Pippa Ken sandals I modeled for Murray Because I used to get All my shoes from Luigi Which is the owner That's crazy All my shoes had my Inscription on them The Pips Up Holds Down movie Those three tone shoes Yeah Those my shoes I had them made That was the first time Murray Ever made So me and Murray was cool But I'd never seen the Meeks shoes You know what I'm saying? So I was like I was a model for Murray And this thing You got some Meeks shoes I'd never seen them And you know You know how I feel about that I was like, man They used to send me Man, they sent me so many Shoes, man I was the When I tell a nigga I'm the 2, 3 of the P I'm the Mac of Jordan I'm Mac of Jordan Of the Pippin I'm serious That's my own shoe Wow It's not Another pimp in the history Of a country It was modeling by a shoe That didn't cost less than A thousand I'm the only person that Ever did that Now, the Holofield model Form You know A couple of basketball Players But I was the only pimp That model for this company You know what I'm saying? Man And it was all In all the magazines You just go You go find all the magazines You see me in there Modeling They had some girls Behind me And shit You know how they do I brought that up Because He was talking about the shoes Yeah So it's all It's all like Yeah, I I wanted to ask you About that day Just how you guys Put that song together You and Pimp C Oh, so I'm in L.A., right? Okay So you know Pimp C He's a crazy dude Crazy Ken, come on to L.A., man I said Man, we could eat this Motherfuckin' jab Budget up So he got me a big-ass Sweet So we in there In a big-ass studio With Michael Jackson Recording that So you know, Pimp He's doing all this shit And he was mad That's how him and Jeezy got into it So Okay So he said That man, you know He said, man, I did A song for Jeezy He said Jeezy sent me the song Back But he sent me an invoice An invoice But Jeezy Then sent me an invoice The record label Do that The record label Do that So all this shit Was going on In this little room This big-ass room This little room So I'm in there And you know I'm just up there Kicking it You know what I mean We got a free room We stand at the Beverly Hill Hotel Wycliffe Jones There We kicking it, man They got rental cars And shit You know what the record label Do when they open That budget up for you Showing out Yeah, so you know I'm saying He just gave I think he gave Jeezy 60 He gave Lil' John 60 This is what They talking about you They talking about money I don't know if I should Be talking about this shit They was doing money shit Right And I was just in the room And sometimes Bumbia show up You know Not all the time But you know Just me and Pimp And a bunch of white Engineers And we in there And he said Say, man, go on the booth So I went in the booth And I just He said, man, talk that white girl Shit, Ken Because he liked me To talk about the white girl And then I mean I shouldn't say this I know his wife is But it's no offense To you, Shinara But When he first came home I told him I said, Pimp You know Here's a white girl for you You know And I said She's just gonna Give you the experience Of actually being In the game You know what I'm saying Yeah And so You know, she did that You know, she was one of my girls I said, you know, man You know Fuck this bitch You know what I'm saying She gonna pay you And she paid him And she was at the funeral You know what I'm saying She was at the funeral And she tried to get back With me I said, no I don't backtrack You know what I mean I said, I don't backtrack With you and Pimp You know And I don't think she probably Choosed up on another Pimp since then But you know She was I wonder if I've seen her Yeah, you've probably seen her Uh-oh Yeah, she's blind here Okay Yeah, so So Sarah You know what I'm saying She You know, she ended up Fucking with Pimp You know what I'm saying Because I wanted to give him That experience You know what I'm saying Actually being in the game So when he rapping about this Shit, he actually Living it too Exactly Because that was the thing That Nick was always telling me You know what I'm saying I be hearing this shit, right This is my nigga How did you feel about that That's what I wanted to ask you Well, you know I know that Before you met him And you heard someone Was calling himself PmC Well, at that time It didn't resonate But once he became my partner You know what I'm saying I just knew that when he came home That he had to have a real experience You know what I'm saying He's right I can dig it He's right And Pimp was crazy Pimp was cussing out Yeah, you fucking right He said Kid, this bitch out of pocket over here, right Hey, Pimp took this shit to the extreme Pimp had to call on everything, didn't he That nigga went crazy He went crazy on that white bitch, right You know And you know I mean, I felt kind of awkward When she would be around You know, I tried to You know, dismiss myself But that was my partner But you know By him having that You know, me being a Pimp, right A seasoned Pimp You know, had thousands of hoes I wanted him to feel that So when he get that money The feeling of getting that money That trap out that whole hand, man That's where you get your Pimp in from That's where you feel Pimp It's like, ah, yeah These squads paying these bitches Man, these hoes paying me Yeah, these niggas Exactly I say, yeah, these niggas Making it rain in the club These hoes, you know what I'm saying These niggas making it precipitate But we They're making it condescent But we're making it precipitate You know what I'm saying We're bringing this shit up off the floor You know what I'm saying So you know that They're not talking that shit, ain't they Yeah, man So that was the thing, you know That I had to help my man out with And then if you go see To get through old GZ All of them was there and zero The whole video Pimp would ask me a question Man, do I supposed to take the money like this? And then people That's when people really, you know Bomb be all of them Seeing the closest of our relationship With Jay Spence All of them was there, you know what I'm saying And we just used to ride You know that What's that highway to go from Ten Ten To go to Paul Arthur Ten Yeah, okay, yeah Ten So we get on that highway We go to Paul Arthur And just ride in the Bentley Or we be in my compressor We just chop it up And sometimes Pimp be on there Talking to Jay Spence And I'm like, man listen Man, I ain't got nothing to do with that man Because that nigga Jay Spence know what I'm talking about Pimp is crazy, man Hey, let me get that shit out of there Whoa, the craziest thing You heard him say Paul, come on now When he was on the phone Well, I just put it like this, right Pimp is like He a party to a crime type nigga, right So he be saying shit And I'll be right there He say, yeah, and me and Ken And I'm like, no, man Ken ain't got nothing to do with that shit I think it don't put me in that shit, right You know, and he talking to some straight-up gays You know, straight-up killers I'm like, Pimp, I'm not in that, right You know what I'm saying, man You know, Pimp will call me He call me when he went off Remember he went off on Atlanta? Yeah Yeah, I remember that call But let me change that He called you before after that He called me before this shit And what did he say? He said, yeah, man, Ken, I'm going to go in Ooh, you know what I'm saying? I said, Pimp, listen I said, man, you know, we doing this shit, man I said, you might want to go in after You know, the album come out You know what I'm saying? You might not want to do it right now You know, next thing I know, man Niggas calling me, man Did you hear what Pimp say? You hear what Pimp say? And, you know, that's just how he was, man What did you say to him after that? After you heard it Come on, bro He already did it on my radio show Yeah, I remember you did it on your radio show Like two or three times And that's him He gonna do that Once he gets started You can't stop him You can't stop him And he tricky with it, right? He'll call you, act like he wants your advice And next thing, you know, he on the radio talking shit But the only thing, if you listen to all the interviews He always be like, man, Ken He always throw my name in this shit So I be like, man, you know Like you're feeling it Yeah, I got a lot of love in Atlanta, bro Don't say my name You know what I'm saying? That shit And you know, like, that's my little brother too, man But you know, on the flip side, man The man to give you the shirt off his back You know what I'm saying? I made a lot of money Man, the first time Pimp gave me some money I did a deal with the dude named Don Fattie Okay You know, Pimp gave me, just gave me $2,500 Then after that, I just started hooking him up with hood And he said, Ken, we gonna rap So he said, nigga, for a 16 to get a hold For $8,000 to get an eight For $4,000 to get a fold So he was thinking in terms of drawing And that's on here He talking about it on here You know what I'm saying? So you know, that was this type of shit Then we went to Universal I don't know if you remember What was Rick's last name? Martin Rick Martin, we went up there to Universal He got me and Pimp and D'Shade That the movie deal is for $3,000,000 D went to jail Okay Pimp died The $3,000,000 was gone He talked about it in his movie So Pimp was gonna play me You know what I'm saying? I didn't know that He was gonna play you Yeah, it's on you too He's gonna play me Man, we had it all set up Man, we feel to make all this motherfucking money Bro, Pimp, DJ Beto I'm gonna shout out to DJ Beto DJ Beto said if Pimp would have lived Another 30 days Everybody would have been rich Everybody would have been rich He was the hottest nigga on the planet 30 days He had so many million dollar deals in the works It was crazy I had eight How do you explain? I always go break it down a little bit more For me, a hottest was gonna happen in 30 days In your world The deals were already in the works And it just had to come to fruition You know what I mean? He's talking about I've heard him say this story a couple of times It's true And Rick Martin, right? He was a big ol' fat black nigga, right? Rick Martin was a big ol' But he talked like a white boy He was cold That motherfucker was cold Pimp himself was like, man, Ken Rick that nigga You know what I'm saying? I mean that nigga So you imagine me I'm sitting at home, right? And these motherfuckers talking about I'm finna get a million dollars So you know how like shit I mean that's the first deal I'm here for a million, right? So I'm like, shit, man He's about to go down So with D, what did you do? So with D went to jail I'm like, damn Because D, I went over to D House one time, man No bullshit D had like a million dollars And a hundred dollar bills Just in a fucking trunk of a car You know what I'm saying? And so you know he was You know D was like He was our investor You know he You know he invested a lot of money In me at Pimp He probably sent $3,000 So he's like, man So he was making a lot of shit happen You know what I'm saying? But I didn't know that he was selling drugs Or whatever they are Or allegedly selling drugs You know because you know me I don't want to be involved in that shit You know, I'm ING I'm not going to send the bitch You know what I'm saying? So I'm like, man That don't take the chance It definitely ain't taking no chance So that nigga, you know what I'm saying? He sent me He sent me to LA to New York He gave me 18 bands to go get some cameras At that time I was in the camera So we getting all ready for this shit And we doing all this shit And next thing I know I go to the man house, man He out now But I go to his house to do a crack So you know what I mean? I ain't got no strap I'm like, I'm back out there But I'm fucking like a scary movie What the fuck is going on? So I'm calling the nigga You know what I'm saying? The nigga ain't asking for him And then finally, you know His wife called me His wife called me and said, yeah You know, D and G So when I called Pippin I said, man, D and G He was like, hell no Not the money, man You know what I'm saying? He was like, man He said, that was crazy And then so me and D Of course, you know That's my man So we corresponding through the penitentiary In County Jail We're the fuck that shit was And so I'm like, yeah, man We're gonna still try to make it happen, man And you know, he's like, man Don't cut me out, man Don't cut me out, man I want my million, right? I said, man, you know I ain't gonna do you like that, Pippin I fucks with you Because we did the best of both worlds together You know what I'm saying? So while he in jail We get that call Yeah Pimp dead You know what I'm saying? I was about to ask you about that I'm like, man I'm tripping, right Because I'm in Atlanta I'm in Atlanta And you know, I had I was trying to hide my cars You know what I'm saying? So I had a lot of, you know, high-end cars So it was just broad in College Park I was fucking with She had a garage So I could put two cars there You know what I'm saying? I had like about six cars So I had the Escalade And the compressor I had the Benz here there So I'm over her house And you know, we put in the cars there You know, so we thinking about this shit You know, I got some DVDs too Yeah Over by house So we had like about 5,000 DVDs over there So we figured to take that shit And put it in this other van that we had And so me and Piper Chase talking And next thing, you know Piper Chase said, man They saying, Pimp, see dad I said, man, that shit, man I did the same thing Yeah Because you know, I talked to Pimp That's what I was going to ask you What was the time to talk to him? I talked to him two days before he died Me too He said, man Two days before? Saturday night So he was doing a show with Tushor Saturday night Yeah, he was doing a show with Tushor He said, man, I'm having fun I'm in LA He said, I'm feeling, you know Me and Tushor have to go fuck with Tushor Tushor got a show He said, Ken, I'm sorry for being tardy That was weird You know what I'm saying? That was weird I mean, like, you know This nigga, we ain't talking like it In about two weeks This nigga just called me Right before he died And said some shit like that Right And you know It was just strange And then once, you know We was hearing about it You know, Rick Fountain, right In the room And Rick got all his computers And shit getting to Shinara You know, so Rick calling me Like, yeah, man, it's true, man It's true, it's true So, you know what I mean? I'm sitting there You know, you got to remember We got We have every magazine together We're doing all these songs together And you know, a lot of people I know he probably know about it You know, UGK The nigga What's the nigga name? The nigga 7 The nigga 17 The nigga 17 The nigga bankroll The nigga IVP These were the niggas That was on the street having money So how Pimp was going to Form the record label was He was going to just take niggas with money He said, y'all niggas buy your own jewelry Y'all buy your own thing And I'm going to let y'all use the UGK brand Didn't I tell you that? He teach over the exact same thing Didn't I tell you that? He was setting everybody up In other words In other words, the other rappers Who didn't have no money I didn't want them to feel Some type of way that Those guys hopscotch stay ass To the front of the line Because Pimp had a vision That Pimp and Bullhunter type of nigga You better be helping yourself Yeah, that's what he was on Don't wait on me, goddammit If you're waiting on me Your ass is going to be waiting If you're helping yourself You got your own bread Yeah, we can put some with some And make some happen Which makes sense That was the mood And all the niggas became hot Yeah, yeah No, they became hot I'm fucking with Pimp C And it was when the UGK changed All that shit You know, these was niggas That I knew personally That I just I introduced bankroll to Pimp I introduced IVP to Pimp Yeah I think 17 Was fucked with him already So we was He said king Go find a nigga with the money Bring him And that's how we're going to form UGK record That's what UGK records Would have been Had Pimp not had that It's been a bunch of niggas As he was selling dope Hustling or whatever The fuck they was doing Real street niggas And you know what I'm saying That's how Pimp wanted to form it He didn't want to do That makes sense Because he's an underground king He didn't want to make sense He didn't want to go pick artists Only one artist That he ever formed To fuck with that Wasn't in that That was one of my artists And this brother You know what I'm saying He didn't understand the business So you know what I mean He didn't sign But you know Pimp Only wanted to sign it Because he seen me put money In traction behind the nigga You know what I'm saying You know And you know But other than that That was funny bro He didn't like Chad didn't like rappers And he didn't like athletes Hey, tell him He didn't like a lot Of the big rappers And neither man Bro, bro With some of these songs You hear them say stuff on I know The story behind What he's saying And who he talking to What story is that I can't just do that bro All I can tell you It made Rest in Peace Maroy You know what I'm saying Yeah, Maroy Maroy did the cross-country pivot He had footage of Pimp Talking bad about some of it A lot of your favorite rappers Pimp didn't like a lot of niggas That today y'all call moguls What happened to that footage He didn't put it out I was there And I remember You know Pimp saying Hey, you know what I'm saying Before he said Hey, he like Yeah, that nigga this man That nigga that man That nigga is a sucker, man Man, I don't fuck with them Niggas trying to steal UGK songs That's all Pimp used to say These niggas trying to steal The UGK brand, man Because Pimp felt that He had a monopoly on the Pimpin The trio too Like the word trio But a lot of niggas You know what I'm saying Me like from New York And a lot of part Of the country You know what I'm saying Me they want to do Pimp songs So Pimp was like These niggas weren't thinking About no Pimp songs Until you know He started And then they would come And get Pimp Now they would pay him And shit like On one instance, man Where Pimp made him Go get a Benz or something What they were saying That the funeral You remember The people from Jive Records They said That they was telling We was at the funeral So this is This was Jive Records I didn't say this So they was like They said Yeah, man So we telling Pimp To go through this This is going to be The biggest thing I'm out there With all the rich niggas Man And I'm looking like A son He said I need a motherfucking brand New Benz Save part of a Benz That's the Benz Just the only big Pimp Yeah, so he made Yeah, so that was Jay-Z done shit So he made them He took the people through Hell Cause you know Hey They said They said This is the funeral This is some shit I'm saying Bro, that there was A true business man That big Pimp This determined All that was going on He drove that motherfucker From Atlanta Where in Miami Florida Somewhere in Florida And he wasn't on the boat I heard the story He wasn't even on that But he brought that Benz And drove it all the way down Bro, he didn't mess with Jay-Z Like that, bro He didn't mess with Jay-Z Like that Well, I mean Jay-Z had He didn't mess with many people Up Well, see His thing was For me personally Talking to him He was saying That they were trying to Steal his style So Pimp So you know Pimp being paranoid He get high Everybody know he get high Any paranoid So everybody was You know I mean One time I was talking to Jay-Z I was talking to Slick Puller And the nigga was He had everybody dope You know what I'm saying The nigga trying to see What I'm going Them niggas side I'm telling Slick Puller Like man Ain't no tell Jay-Z Ain't no beef man We all family You know what I'm saying It's good And Slick Pills No man Jay-Z ain't got no problem You know what I'm saying But Pimp He listen to me Like he's like You better not cross me Like You know The nigga was crazy man He's a funny dude Man You know The only thing that I used to laugh about Every time he talk He talks about He want to put me in it Like Yeah Like Yeah What y'all going to do with me Ken with me man You know what You know what You know what You know what You know what Throw that Jay Prince thing Aw man You use Jay Prince to the fullest I got a I got a story I may ask you if you knew about Because I got a feeling You know about it So at my radio show This guy came by one time Right And then I say about Five, six months later The dude come back To my radio show And he's Almost got tears in his eyes Right And I can see him I'm So I wait till the commercial break And I say What's up bro That fool say Man My hoe ran off She stole ten thousand dollars Of my money And tried to take it to Pimp C And give it to him For his choosing fee I know you remember that story I know you remember that story You remember that story Hey Hey Tears in his eyes Hey bro Give me the song about it On Project Pat Hey That's what he talk about Really Hey Let me put it to you like this A lot of Hoes Wanted to choose up on Pimp A lot of them A lot of them want to choose up on him Because You know They you know They listen to his music And his music resonate Their lifestyle You feel me Yes You know what I'm saying But You know Pimp He wanted to be in the game But you know In the deepest side of him Was he was a family man Yeah You know what I'm saying So he loved his wife And he loved his kid You know But you know Another side You gotta think about his wife Was the only one that was down When he was fucking in jail Yeah You know So you know a lot of people And me You know I went to visit him in jail Wrote him letters all the time You know So Pimp had a lot of bitterness You know about niggas You know But when he got home though Soon as he Soon as he got home And he got in that studio He had about a quarter million Dollars worth of features Yeah You know Soon as he got I'll tell you man This is Anybody that know Know You know Bumbies set him up right Free Pimp seed thing Yeah That was dope But on the flip side But you know the other side We ain't gonna go too deep We ain't gonna get too deep on that I knew you knew about it Yeah You know I know I knew he called you I know about everything man Hey Pimp main thing was That whoever was using his name Should have been tongue-cares mama Wow You know what I'm saying That's how he felt So was his mama not getting taken care of When he was gone Bro come on now I'm asking I'm just asking I don't know No bro She wasn't getting taken care of At all No Well I don't know No The particulars He said no He don't play with it No He from poured out So he might know I'm from here But I live there But see What Pimp told me The only thing I know about Pimp Is they can't I don't give a fuck What motherfuckers do As long as they take care of my family You know what I'm saying Yeah And that's what Pimp Would always say to me You know what I'm saying Me having a lot of Intels If I was to tell the truth Yeah You know like A lot of people don't know man You know I ain't gonna say who it is But it's a real famous rapper And it's a real famous R&B chick Okay Yeah Pimp had a naked He had a recording of them I think he died with it But he could have made Millions of dollars And some of the people That's higher up in rap If they would have seen that Tape You know what I'm saying Me You think that Kim Kardashian Shit was something Yeah this would have blew it Man this shit was this I'm gonna do I'm gonna use your imagination The biggest R&B chick In the game I already know who it is Rappers You know what I'm saying They made the most money in the game And they weren't supposed to be together Or they were together And nobody knew it They're still together now Oh they're still together now Wow They ain't got to know who that is God We ain't gotta go no further He had to take Man listen I tried to get that tape We ain't gotta go no further Wow Hey I gotta I'm God for that kind of money man That was a nice tape You seen it I've been right here man Man I'm telling you man listen man Listen man The biggest chick in the game You know what I'm saying me And you know One of the dudes That was really getting it at one time You know what I'm saying me So you know It's like You know It's a lot of shit man You know pimp I mean pimp You know he was around A lot of shit A lot of people You know before they became famous They did a lot of dumb shit You know It's a lot of artists You know female artists do dumb shit You know man You know what I'm saying me To get up And you know It's just you know They're human They're human man Let me ask y'all I'ma switch gears on y'all for a second And I don't know the people Gonna be mad Because they would have loved To hear them story That was good stuff right there When you did that With that PIMP You was on that With 50 cent That was That was actually before Meeting pimp C right Was did you know pimp At the time we did No I knew pimp Okay so You remember 99 Yeah That would have been All that shit come after 2000 2000 And it went hard Now pimp Remember pimp went to jail I want to know how he felt about that No pimp went to jail For four years right Yeah he did So you got to remember At this time I'm just pimpin' kin For pimp's upholds down Yeah Remember that I'm pimpin' Even though there was a billion views And everybody was loving pimpin' kin When pimp C come home I'm pimpin' kin From Lil John's album From Two Short Album From Yeah you're right 50 cent out So pimp He like Come here nigga You my nigga You know what I'm saying So we started Yeah so we started Doing videos too So it was about Six or seven videos Me and pimp did when he came home And there's a lot I did about six albums You know what I'm saying So you know It's like No matter what I was doing You know over there With 50 cent or Anybody else You know what I'm saying I had to be at the Player Anthem's video I've seen that You know what I'm saying So I'm at that video I want to ask you about that And break that down to me Well pimp called me He said kin I want some pimps in the video And all the pimps That you see in the video I seen Valentino I seen the bunch of y'all I called I asked Valentino I called all the niggas Because pimp said Kin run this shit Ask Valentino He'll tell you So a lot of niggas You know what I'm saying I'm not a hater So I brought everybody in You know cause I want pimp To have a good look And you know I ain't no hater Right so you know I ain't trippin on that shit You know I You know what I mean I'll get in the video And go sell some DVDs in the mall The next day Yeah I'll give a fuck man I like that boy You know that's just my flavor You know what I'm saying Like right now I'm the leader Of the hip hop attorney But you're still going to see me I bet you I'll go to a big tease In the morning You know because But that's my therapy You know what I'm saying I talked about this In another podcast When I was Maybe 12 years old I asked Dr. J. Can I have his shoes He said get away from me boy You know what I'm saying And you know we've been I've eventually seen him again Years later You know he's an older man I'm a much older guy We you know he was more receptive Back then But that broke my heart Yeah I said if I ever get famous If I ever get famous I'm not going to be Hollywood I'm going to be Hollywood You know what I'm saying And that's why people Always say Ken is Hollywood You know what I'm saying He's always in every hood You know he's always selling DVDs You know that's just who I am I ain't going to never change that You know what I'm saying So that part of me Even though I didn't Make millions of dollars Just like I said I signed Boosi Yeah I signed Boosi I signed Boosi But I'm still selling DVDs Yeah I'm going to Boosi house They be running for me Talking about Here he come You know what I'm saying Shit man You got there right Motherfucker I'm going to say Here DVDs You know what I'm saying My motherfucking head They all know me They got COVID All know me touching Dick or what man They're going to pay me Touch my motherfucking head Let me ask you this man So how did that go That day go with that I choose you How was that with You had UGK UGK and you had David Bannon David Bannon Outcast Well you know I worked with Outcast I was in the so fresh And so clean video Oh okay Yeah I got to go So all these dudes Everybody in Atlanta know me You know what I'm saying Like I said I'm the mayor I had to work with everybody So you know what I mean We already had a relationship So it was like a family reunion Yeah David Bannon Was it fun as it looked Me and David Bannon My man in reality We slept on that man He slept on one car I slept on another car And David Bannon was Making beats out of his van Yeah That's how far we go back So you know all of us David Bannon He be hard on David Bannon Yeah He is hard on David Bannon Let's do it then Let's do it then You know what he said You know this came up On the other episode He said he taught Pimpon How to run a drum machine I ain't got nothing to do with that Stop that bro And everybody thinks It's from the BI interview And it went from the BI interview Okay It was not from the BI interview If I could pull it up If I could pull it to you But You know your people Went hard on me in the comments But at the end of the day Because they didn't know What the fuck they talking about That beat machine He was making beats before That I can't say that The good thing about it though Right Bumb B You know J Prince Called me to do the Bumb B And Pimpon was in jail So y'all might hear me on that So it was a family reunion For me Because all of them Like my little brothers You know what I'm saying They all like little brothers So it was a fun time Bishop down All the pimps All the ladies were there You know what I'm saying It was in California man We had a beautiful time man And it was the last time We was all together That's right That's right He had that thing white mink on And he killed that video To me you know I was right on top of that I was like this nigga Killing these niggas man I'm always gonna say one Whatever verse he put out The verse I don't give a damn That's my guy man But the boy You know he just had to be In order to Get in that caliber The way these guys were You had some high profile Guys on that song man So and I heard it was a 36 mafia It was on that too wasn't it Yeah It's on the album Yeah That was the war The original song was Like a bonus cut Yeah You know that album Went up a platinum too then Yeah It was some awards Giving it Wasn't it a Grammy or something I know I got some plaques From that shit You got some plaques from it I got plaques I probably got about 30 40 plaques Every major album I went on Went platinum You know Lil John We did 8 million On one song We did about The Jumanja P Went platinum The album I did With Loom With Puffy That album I went platinum on that I think me and Pastor Troy got a couple Gold joints Me and 50 Cent You know we did platinum On that Sabrina baby boy Who else Me and 2 Short We went double platinum I went platinum twice With 2 Short I went gold With a Mac 10 Man so many albums I've been on I can't remember that shit What do you think About the music now This is a good question Because you've been around This music This hip hop When it first came in the door Till now How do you feel about the hip hop That we're dealing with The way that the music sounds Man these niggas I'm asking you These niggas And today These niggas With it like a motherfucker Money wise Money wise Nobody You talking about the music Yeah the music I didn't want It don't sound like No old bitter person But let me Say this to you Right You like Future Yes Future is the king of hooks Right Marking him as the king of hooks So you know what I'm saying Every time Future do a hook You know what I'm saying The whole song Could be damn near a hook And it's gonna go platinum Because that's what we Got Future So now you got a little baby Doing hooks You got that baby Doing hooks So now that's the flavor So whatever the powers to be Say that's what's going on Then that's that Now let me be technical You know what I'm saying I mean Where we ever go back To the LL Cool J's The Rock Kim's Where we ever go back To a EPMD You know what I'm saying We ever go back to You know I mean even Dr. Dre Snoop Dogg You know It depends on what's Being marketed You know what I'm saying If they become marketable Then they're gonna market it So you know what I'm saying Always tell artists Look man I don't give a fuck How good you can rap If you market well You're gonna be successful That's it So they go back to My organization The hip hop fraternity Yes You know what I'm saying We market it well That's why everybody Know about us You know what I'm saying It's the marketing Like Dutch You know what I'm saying I always tell us Look Don't worry about your music You know what I'm saying The music is gonna be okay If we market you And we put you out there And we program the people And we threw hypnosis In the various things That we need to do To get you in the head Guess what Whatever you're doing Is gonna be a hit You know what I mean So when you listen To the rap today You know what I'm saying It's a hit Because somebody Marking these songs Is hits You know what I'm saying Then you look at The way music Is brought to YouTube So you meet artists through YouTube It used to be through the radio Now you meet an artist Through YouTube Before you ever meet them On the radio I want to ask you about this I know I heard the story About the mystical Losing his necklace Story I want to hear about that On boss talk 101 Cause the chain thing Niggas get their chains Took to this day Niggas still Get their chain took For sure Well let me say this Mystical didn't get robbed Like what happened So a friend of mine Pimp You know what I'm saying Me And one of his hoes Got with mystical Oh And so she stole the jury So when she stole the jury Mystical called me He said say man Ken man You know some Milwaukee Bitches man They were talking about From Milwaukee I said oh yeah So I said Man let me check So I know Not all the pimps In the town right I said man Anybody here About mystical Getting peeled for some Jury And so the dudes The head they said Man what we need to do So we did We had to do man And I got the jury back Mystical came to Milwaukee When he came to Milwaukee The crazy thing about it Was the nigga left $25,000 in my brother car I said damn this nigga be slipping So my brother So my brother pulled off With the $25,000 And he called me going crazy So I had to get the Money back for him But my brother would have Never stole the money from him Anyway How did you End up meeting mystical How did you guys become cool Enough for him to pick up From the car You got to remember Had a song with mystical He did and it was beat And I was in that video Okay And mystical Was in my Ghetto Streets Executive Suite So I You saw little John 1st Apple on the second Uh man Bro don't give me that I did some little Apple go Yeah But but but But and then you got To remember Beast by a pound You know what I'm saying Moby Dick now They knew me You know cash money When they first came out You remember when Turks Said uh Yeah man A baby in Keynes Yeah yeah yeah Well you know Before baby even had A million dollars He would consult with me I would give him game But they want to know About the pimping And and you know It's a whole bunch of other Shit I don't want to talk about What do you think about Why do you think it's Such a fascination to the Hip-Hop uh In the pimping Yeah in the pimping Well you know I mean You know what I mean Before them niggas Ever get that shit We got it already That makes sense So when baby Pull up to me You know what I'm saying He got a Rolex A plane jane on I got a bus down on Pretty bitches And he trying to you know Make a hit record So he can fuck all the pretty bitches I got these pretty bitches Selling pussy You know what I'm saying It's a difference I got these hoes on the Remote control These hoes I snap my fingers These hoes do what I tell them to Do They fascinate Because most niggas When they go home They bitches run them You know what I'm saying Half these niggas Can't you know These niggas can't send A bitch to the store With some change To tell the bitch To come back with They change The bitch going to Spend the change Let's know It's a quota A dime Hey bitch bring me Every motherfucking dime My money back I guarantee She ain't gonna miss a dime You know If it's in the game So that's how the game It's a difference You know That's what they Fascinated by You know They fascinated by The jury Our jury is customized They buy They shit in the middle Of them all I don't buy No shit in the middle Of them all I want my name On this shit In my inscriptions You know what I'm saying I want my suits You know You look at some of the jury Babies You start seeing them Have pimp jury You know The men The men spent hours The man They flew me all into New Orleans All into the You know The offices and shit You know what I'm saying I knew Lil Wayne When he was a baby Yeah When Lil Wayne Was a baby I been That's a lot of me Fucking with these niggas You go look at All the juvenile videos You'll see me there I need you In their life That's me When we go to jury With the pimp couple So you know I've been fucking with these niggas For years You know what I'm saying Me But I'm a type of nigga I'm a street nigga So you know I don't look at it like hip hop I look at it like You know I fuck with these little niggas You know what I'm saying When them niggas shot me They shot me Niggas tried to rob me Who shot you Some niggas man They tried to rob me Hold on Hold on They tried to rob me And you know Niggas told me To get my shit I told them That's the niggas In the car When they Why they were shooting Then they shoot my car About a hundred times And so I go Draw myself to the hospital You know They put me to sleep I woke up Little flip And I'll cast all the niggas At the fucking At my At the hospital So can you say What city it was Milwaukee It was in Milwaukee Where you from Where you hang Where you be at Yeah It always be like that It always be like that I don't know what happened To those niggas But you know I heard that So you blacked out As you were driving Did you rap? Man listen man My bitch shot Total fire time I don't When a niggas rob Niggas tried to rob me I'm thinking Because you know I used to rob niggas I'm thinking You're gonna kill me So I tell niggas Man fuck them You know what I'm saying I think I'm gonna die anyway So they I got the holes in my body They power power You know They were some bitch ass niggas They you know They wouldn't really Seize about it They would have They would have More than me They shot the cop A hundred times I drove to the hospital I drove to the hospital I checked myself in They put all that mask on me That's when I went to sleep Okay You know what I'm saying They cut me up I had more cuts For their motherfuckers Than the bullet ones I'm like What the fuck are these motherfuckers I got a camera In my dick Man my dick Hurt like a motherfucker Man that's the shit I don't even say that I don't even say that Niggas You don't want that You don't want that You don't want that You don't want that You don't want that Man that bitch Pull that That's what I'm about to do I don't know way You can That usually do it to you They put it in while you sleep Ahh Get out of here man You know what I'm saying When I woke up I got a motherfucker Tube in my dick You know what I'm saying And I'm like Man take this Like this I'm comfortable Hey dude It's like you got the Pete 247 Ahh I can't do it But when it come out It's like razor blades Coming out from your dick Oh, don't tell me that. Oh, don't tell me that, man. So how long did you stay in the hospital before you were in the U.S. I took down two days because a nigger that I had a fight with a nigger, right? A nigger was talking shit to me about a hoe, right? So I knocked this nigger out in the club, straight up. You know what I'm saying? He in jail now. You know what I'm saying? This true story, everybody know this. I whooped the nigger in the club. You know what I'm saying? I knocked him out. So I wake up this nigger in the hospital. What? I'm not even dreaming about him and he fuck with my little artist and shit. So they in there and they act like they concern. So I'm like, you know. You trying to get the fuck out of here? And guess what? The jury that they tried to rob me for is sitting there, sitting on the corner in the bag. You know how they put your shit in the bag? It's right there. Yeah, so I'm looking at this nigger, right? I'm like, man, what the fuck this nigger doing to me? I'm like, is this nigger here son of a dude? I'm like, I'm thinking like the Godfather. He better do it, son. He better finish me up, right? He better finish the job. Hey, man. So you checked out. So a little flip came to the hospital. I'm like, well, I'm tripping. I'm like, man, what the fuck? It was crazy. So I'm paranoid like a motherfucker. So I said, man, listen, I'm ready to check out. I'm gonna check myself out. So I checked out United Little Limp and shit. It went all that bad. Then the Izy Brother concert was the next day. So I wanted to make a statement. I went to the Izy Brother concert. Everybody like, nigga, this nigger crazy. But no, but you know, I'm letting them niggas know nigga, I ain't dead. Nigga, y'all know what time it is. It's gonna be a cold summer. Nigga, you know what I'm saying? And I'm niggas know what time it was, man. You know what they, you know what I'm saying? Man, baby kid, boy, you off the chain, man. I ain't never heard that story, man. Now it's true. You know this man got a million. But you gotta remember all my niggas are East Side gangsters, right? So all my cousins now, they gangsters. You know what I'm saying? They like high officials in the gangster nation. So I, I fuck with gangster niggas. You know what I'm saying? Like I said, I did 10 years in prison. This is, this is who I am. You know what I'm saying? But niggas know me as Piff and Ken. But street niggas know me, you know, differently. You know what I'm saying? I mean, I went live on this mic. Man, niggas, man, we put pressure on niggas. You know what I'm saying? We, you know, niggas, you know, our hometown, you know what I'm saying? She been there with me. Don't know niggas, don't niggas look funny at me. You know what I'm saying? Cause, you know, I put my work in early. You know what I'm saying? I ain't gotta do it now. I ain't have, I ain't have the nigga I used to be. I mean, nigga probably, you know, the average nigga probably can whip me. I ain't saying I'm a King Cole, but I'm saying I put enough drama and put enough pressure on niggas that their pressure still lasts since they with niggas don't fuck with me. You know what I'm saying? And you know, like I said, even the niggas, you know what I'm saying? Me that even tried it, you know, they had to kill me, but they didn't kill me. You know what I'm saying? So, you know, cause niggas already know, man, you know, but, but, but you know what? I'm going to say this. Even if I don't have a gangsta bone in my body, all the gangsta niggas fuck with me. That's what I'm saying. All the killers fuck with me. So I ain't gotta kill a nigga. You know what I'm saying? I got niggas that are killed for me just for a nigga looking crazy at me. Yeah. And like, even in my organization hip hop attorney, we ain't got a number of Bloods and Crips and GDs and vice Lord. Them niggas, man, they always like, oh, what's up? Niggas ain't nothing up to you, you know what I'm saying? No, that's right. You know what I'm saying? I get it. Don't do nothing in my name. No, no, I want to ask you something. I got to ask you this cause this is part of the show. Top three artists of all time did or live. I got to have that. Hip hop. Top three artists. It don't matter. It don't matter. John Ray, he could say Sharday for like a top three artist of all time. No cap. Pem C. Pem C, number one. Give it to me, nigga. It's a celebration, nigga. It's a celebration, go down. Let me tell you why I say that, though. Because I know the nigga musically. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? I know how he is, you know, as far as his skill sets, as far as his artist. You heard that, didn't you? I know how he listened to music. I know how much he put into his music. And you know, I mean, he got a lot of melodies. I mean, he cold. Yeah. Then my next one would be. Wait a minute, Ken. Was the boy genius? He was a genius. Hands down. Hands down. The only problem Pem had was he fucked with the drugs. If he had fucked with drugs, he would be super duper. Now, Michael Jackson. Number two, Michael Jackson. I'm going to tell you why I like Michael Jackson, because Michael Jackson, he got that, you know, when I call greatness, they hear me all on this. When I, I want everybody to understand this. The reason why Michael Jordan was so good, because he was three seconds faster than everybody that he played against. Okay. The reason why Mike Tyson was such the greatest is he was three seconds faster than punching motherfuckers. You know what I'm saying? The reason why Michael Jackson was so great because he was three seconds faster than, you know, people musically and in talent and skills and entertainment. You can just go see Mike. Mike was the first nigga just standing there for 30 minutes and have people shout. Well, nobody doing that before, Mike. You know what I'm saying? Mike made that presence. Boy. And if I was going to pick number three, if I was going to pick a number three, I'd say Dutch. Hey. That's dope. That's dope. Super dope. Because Dutch man, I sit down, I be listening to music with her, man. She know every song, future, baby. She into a craft. Yeah, she so, so when she make music, that should be so surprising to me. I'm like, man, I can't believe that's a female rapping like this. You know what I'm saying? But then I peeped it. I said, she studied music. She studied music. She's an engineer. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? She do all her own music. Since she record herself, you know what I'm saying? So to me, you know what I'm saying? Even though she haven't reached the apex or the epitome of where she going, I think that she's gonna be in that category. You know what I'm saying? And I'm just, I'm just, I'm predicting. I'm pronouncing that she gonna be up there with the greats. Man, so you got PMC. PMC. You got Michael Jackson and Dutch, man. That's what's up, man. I need some music too, Dutch. I need you to email that to me. Where they sitting now? Yeah, yeah. I'm gonna rock it out. But you know, man, just the stories, man. That's why I wanted to pull us together, man. Just to really chop it up about the pimp. You know what I'm saying? Come together because me and you had talked about it. We always gonna do this on this show. Because when you come to town, you need to check in, man. Let me know. Now I'm serious. Yeah, hell yeah. Cause I wanna talk about, I wanna talk about pimp. I ain't gonna lie to y'all. That's what I feel like this, this whole, we gotta keep that legacy, that foundation he built with solid. He never flaked on us down here, bro. You know that. You was with him, you was with him. Cause you rapped to him. Cause you rapped to him. That's where it come from. That's exactly what he said. Pimpz said, we don't ride trains, we don't do book packs. All we do is drive, well, Cadillacs. You know what I'm saying? But was it that serious with GZ, the 17, the 17-5 and all that? No, but you gotta remember, they did a song called Cackies, right? Yeah. Dickies. Dickies is some shit, though. Dickies, yeah. So, GZ, no pun intended. GZ didn't have no problem with putting the song out. But the record labels, man, they so full of shit. So they made it all right. That's what they said in the invoice. The record label did. Yeah. That's what screwed everything. Well, the problem was that happened. And then when Pimp tried to call him. Yeah, talk to his assistant. Yeah, I'm trying to call you personally. Yeah. And I can't get in touch with you. But Bond was where I came with them before he got out. But Bond is the middle man for all these new niggas that Pimp see was me. Exactly. So Bond was fucking with everybody. What Pimp was doing after he got to jail, Bond B was doing it before he went to jail. Bond is the great politician, you know? Yeah. But Pimp is like, you know, he's a no-holds-barred nigger. You know what I'm saying? It takes one little fraction to get him on your bad side. You know what I'm saying? Little John did the same thing. They sent them an invoice, too. You know what I'm saying? And he wasn't happy with the track. Did he talk to him? Did Little John pick up the phone? But see, you know, the thing with that is like, you know, Little John being a producer, right? Pimp probably walked a little lighter on him, because they kind of share a commonality. You know what I'm saying? But I think that the thing with GZ with the 17-5, actually, when they was in Arkansas, I'm on stage with the video that went viral. I'm right there when you talk about the 17-5. Yeah, that's 17-5, but you got to remember, you know what I'm saying? When I come from, it's 25. Yeah, you understand? I'm like, I want to meet GZ. I want the 17-5. 17-5, man! I'm like, 17-5, where's GZ at? Talking about some squirrels. Hey, I need about a hundred other motherfuckers like that, but 17-5, you know, I know the whole hood to get busy with that. Yeah, man, that wasn't happening too much. I know down here it was even expensive and you could get a, I've seen the lowest, I've ever seen it with 13. But you got to remember, you got to remember though, if any nigga probably was getting it for 17-5, it would be GZ. I mean, I'm saying, I ain't saying that GZ is so dope, but if he was, I mean, because he knew Big Meach and all, and I'm niggas, you know what I'm saying? I'm niggas, man, that niggas was really, if you read it, you read the motherfucking transcript, them niggas was moving a lot of work. And you know what I'm saying? I'm gonna open this question up, is Atlanta the South because of the time zone? Hey, man, hey, man, I love Atlanta, man, hey. No, I just asked a question. I just asked a question. Hey, let me take some. Is Atlanta the South because of the time zone? Oh, yeah, Atlanta the South, man. Hey, yeah, Atlanta the South, man, you didn't get me that shit. Hey, is it really? I've been changed by the time zone. I've been changed by the time zone. What do you mean, he said, did he clean it up a little bit afterwards? Did he say it well? No. He said he still said it well. He said it was an Eastern time. That's what he was looking for. Eastern span of time. Yeah, that's what he was saying. And the fact that when we go there, when we was going there in the 90s, all them Chicago dudes would be down there, and a lot of New York dudes would be down there. Philadelphia, and you know, we weren't with the Timberlands. We weren't with them. Yeah, we weren't with them. I heard him say, though, he said, you know, I love Atlanta. I used to live in Atlanta. You know what I'm saying? He told me he moved to Atlanta. He said he loved Atlanta. Oh, he loved it, yeah. But, you know, he said a few other things. You know what I'm saying? In that same interview, right? Yeah, he was talking about sexuality up people. So when he was getting on points on that. But you got to remember, you're talking about PMC. You know what I'm saying? No filter. So when he going at Gigi, he going at the entire Atlanta because he's probably thinking in his mind that they gonna be on Gigi's side. You know what I'm saying? So he kind of, like I said, he was a little paranoid. So he was preempting the beef. Like, yeah, all you motherfucking get it. You know what I'm saying? But in reality, Atlanta loved PMC because I know. You know what I'm saying? I'm fucking with these niggas. Everybody loved PMC. Everybody. Actually, that was the crazy shit ever. When PMC went on the ramp, that was the crazy shit ever. Because if PMC went and did that, that album probably did 10 times. It probably would have went diamond. Dang. I'll tell you. This three six mafia thing, he loved them boys too. How did he build that relationship? I know you would know that. We feel to get off of here, but. Closer to when they was in it, after he moved to Atlanta, when they was working on the. So that was something too. You ever get a chance to rock with them all together? Man. That was at the video shoot. I know that, but I'm talking about other instances. Listen, Paul Juicy J called me all the time. A-ball, MJG. Everybody in hip hop, man. I'm not bragging. How is that the first time? They fucked with me. You know what I'm saying? They fucked with me. I've been on the phone with these niggas because you got to remember. You know what I'm saying? You know, I have relationships predating them. Yeah, yeah. So as they began to mature, and like Lil' John, like me and me, is like how you said, you know, when you. Yeah, when I met you. Lil' John, me and me was like a great honor because you got to remember, it was Jermaine Dupri before Lil' John and Too Short. So I met the video shoot with Too Short and that's how I meet Lil' John. The next day, I ordered him a pimp cup. You know what I'm saying? That's the whole pimp cup. He'll tell you, go read the XXAC came from Pimp and Ken. So I have a lot of relationships, but I'm not the type of person to go around bragging. Oh, I know this nigga. See, if you don't never talk to me about that, you're gonna catch me in Shop Town Mall. You're gonna catch me in the mall selling DVDs. I see it. And you're gonna say that nigga broke. You know what I'm saying? That's what you're gonna say. I never thought that. I thought you would hustle like me. But what I'm saying, what I'm saying, niggas don't know, the same nigga that you, you buying the DVD from is the same nigga you're gonna see, I have five videos on BET come down at the same time that I was featured in. Or, you know, I was on the first, the top 10 albums. You know, and they got to remember when your mama got through fucking you and you got 24 years old, Ken still receiving publishing 24 years later since that song. So you was born at the date the song was, but I'm still, I can show you my emails. I'm still receiving money from ASCAP and being mine. I still receiving publishing. And so I'll probably get more publishers than a lot of rappers because I've been on more albums than a lot of rappers. You know what I'm saying? But I'm just a down the earth nigga street nigga. So you gonna see me everywhere. I just want to say thank you, man. Appreciate you for coming on the show and thank you for every time I ever met you in the streets, wherever we was at. Keeping it 100, you were in Hollywood never in life. I'm not Hollywood. I can never do that either. Hollywood. Hey, next time you come, we need to address the funeral. Cause like I said, that was. Can we talk about that quickly? Yeah, we can because the funeral was something. Because you spoke some stuff on here before. Yeah, what happened was I left Dallas. I don't know how I got in touch with Valentino but Valentino and I followed each other down to Houston. What do we see you at? At Cory Mohan's or at the mall? Somehow we at the Galleria. Yeah, probably at the Galleria. When we was at the Galleria, then we went all back to Cory Mohan's. And then we all followed each other to Port Arthur. And that funeral? Man, the crazy thing about that funeral, right? The funeral was big. But nobody talk about it when we went and viewed the body. Only a hundred people was involved. Man, Pimp C head was this big. Stop it, man. Are you serious? Man, it was this big dog. I mean, you know. It was darker, too. Hey, it was darker. His lips looked like plastic, his whole face. So too short looking at me. We looking at each other like, you know, and everybody's looking at each other like, we couldn't even believe this shit we were seeing. Bro, the casket was so heavy. Oh, that thing. How they made us carry that casket was once we pulled up to the cemetery area, we had to carry it. You remember we had to carry it to there? Bro, it was a long walk. They didn't have nothing we could push on. We had to carry that thing. And we was talking about Chad laughing at us. He was like, we were struggling carrying it. Why do you think that he looked... Well, he was out for so long. Because he was there for two days. So what they call that decap... What they call it? Decap... What they call it? Decompose. Decompose. His body was decomposed. But man, dude, if you would have seen that man, you ever see that Mega Africa video? Yeah, yeah. It was reminiscence of that, man. It was crazy. And it didn't look like my friend. I was like, man, this is crazy. It didn't look like him, bro. It didn't look like him at all. It didn't look like him at all. You're the first person that has popped that up. Do you think it was foul play involved? Yes, that's what I want to bring you. Well, you know, I believe that, you know... He ain't got no down sleep avenue. That's what you believe. You know... This ain't gonna be serious about Pimp. He's gonna say it. I mean, you know, Pimp had a lot of enemies. You know what I'm saying? So, you know, it's a lot of ways to, you know, to impose death on motherfuckers, you know what I'm saying? So, you know, I mean, in my own opinion, is that, you know, I wasn't there. So I can't really say what happened, but I don't think that it wasn't foul play. You know, when you, you know, you gotta remember, man, you know, Pimp, he had a lot of shit going on. A lot. A lot of shit going on, man. A lot of niggas, you know, you know, they had their hands in shit, you know what I'm saying? So, you know, I mean, it could be a lot of different ways. I mean, I had my hands in shit. I had a three million dollar deal with the man. So, you know what I'm saying? I mean, you know, I'm like, damn. You know what I'm saying? So everybody was working with Pimp C, you know, but you don't know on what part of that was bad business. Yeah, yeah, cause it's so much business. And then, you know, Pimp is a very vocal person. So you don't know who he pissed off. So we don't know, can't nobody say for certain what really happened. It's just that, man, you know, whoever did whatever, man, I think that they're gonna have a day in court, you know what I mean? You know, I mean, you know, just because your punishment has been delayed, don't mean the creator has been weakened, you know what I'm saying? And the Bible says you're gonna read what you saw, you know what I'm saying? I believe it. Cause, you know, like I said, I tell people all this time and I don't say this, you know, in a funny way, when they shot me, right? You know? I mean, I did a lot of shit to niggas, you know what I'm saying? That was just my past coming back to hunt me. That was a karma, you know, cause like I said, man, you know, I'm a walkie, they call it kill walkie. So everybody on some bullshit, you know what I'm saying? So nigga got to be really, you know, on some bullshit, you know what I mean? And you know, you know, I just think some of the things that I've done in my past might've came back to hunt me. And I think that whoever or whatever was connected with Pimp C. Deff, it's gonna come back to hunt him. Wow, man, man. We might not never know about it, but it might've already happened. Yeah, it might've already happened. Yeah, man, thank you so much for coming on the show, man. It was one of the dopest sets I done had, man. I appreciate you, man. Appreciate you, Bobo. Yeah, man, thank you, man. Man, it's grown up stuff right here. This is right here. The kids ain't gonna be able to watch this one. No. Boss talk, what a boss is talk, man. Shout out to that boy, Pimp and Kenny. Bobo Luciana, man. It's been another great segment of that boss talk.