 I don't know if you're co-hosting me or not. I still like that tree. I want to. So everyone we've got coming seriously. Definitely. Let's see. Or if you mute yourself. I think it doesn't matter how much we've got on YouTube. It's not recognizing. That's the other piece. You can just stay there. They just won't see us. They'll just see you. That's another thing, isn't it? I mean, I could turn it. I have to grab that. Okay. I'll just do it that way. And I will email again to see if we can get... Okay. So you should mute yourself so I don't have an echo. Okay. Let's mute everybody except you. Now I want to mute you. Sounds like you have to. Oh, yeah. Actually, here's nothing. Yeah, because it doesn't have a mic but it has speakers. So it's coming from your... I want to mute the TV. Yeah. Hey, we got it. Can you all hear me? Tell them what you're doing. Somebody thumbs up if you can hear me. Okay. There you go. And then... If they're going to talk, you're going to have to mute them. Okay. Okay. You guys start meeting and do your couple first steps and I will... Well, in the absence of a quorum, I don't think we can call them into a quarter, right? That's a good point. So, but we still do want to hear the affordable housing and CDVD funding presentation. So for those of you who just joined us, we're one short of a quorum on the board members. So we'll hear the presentations and that's it, I think. I think you're right. Unless we get another board member joined, we're only at four. So we're just driving the presentations. What was that, Brian? We're just going to mute yourself and I'm going to mute your kids with that. So is that what happened right in front of you? And then we can hear Brian. That's the only trick. You know what? I don't think we have chat for this process. Okay. All right. Watch this. Okay. We heard Brian say something so we're welcoming Brian to speak again. And this is quite a setup for our audio here. So be patient for that. Okay. I just want to make sure you know I was online in case I wasn't counted in the quorum. Easy peasy. I am looking up the bylaws just to make sure it is just the percent. I just want to make sure it's okay. So give me a second. Do you not have five people in there? Only one. Only one is the board member. So if you want to start setting up. We're just figuring out quorum real quick. I just want to make sure. And I will turn you guys around so you can see the room. Once we get started. Oh, Brian's got a note. I know. What does it say? Maybe we had chat from the shed. So in case you don't know, the conference room we were scheduled to be in was full of furniture. We don't know why. Somebody's doing construction somewhere. So we moved over to the finance conference room, set off the alarm, but got it turned off. And now we don't have a camera on the master TV and we don't have a mic on the master TV. So I'm muting and simultaneously unmuting my computer and the TV at the same time. Just, you know, fill in the time while everybody's at the bylaws for quorum. So we're remodeling our office. And while we're working, we have people working up in the attic. And actually a foot will come through. Majorities. Majorities. Yeah. Majorities. We need to have five or five majorities. To call the meeting or to vote. Can we call the meeting and proceed and just not have a vote? Or can we know it all? In quorum, we shall consist of a majority and not including vacancies. Yeah. So there's still five, you know, eight majorities. It doesn't say anything about. Can we call a meeting? We should just get on with the presentation. Yep. Okay. So we do not have a quorum. So we're going to have the presentations and then we'll sort out next steps for, for us at least. Yeah, we can call special meetings. You know, post it into all that. Okay. Yeah. So for presentations, is there any volunteers to go first? Because we don't have it set. It could be anybody. Sure. Okay. Yeah. All right. Let me pull it up and share my screen quickly. Should I stand here? Should I get? Yeah. But how about I, I will rotate the, the screen so they can see you from me. So if you want to stand up here. Okay. And I'll click through if you want to just come in. Okay. To go forward. Hello everyone. And I have a little video, but maybe I'll just wait till the end for that. And use it. What? That was easier. We can do video. What do you, was it sense? It's, it's in there. Yeah. And a little bit. Okay. We'll go to the shot and we'll see if we get that lucky. Okay. But. Yeah. Have you actually shared it? Yeah. Stop share. Share. Window. Okay. What's happening now? That's my share screen. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. That's my share screen. Okay. I've never seen this before in my life. So, you know. Not sure what we can do there. Maybe I can do my window. Do the full screen instead of window. I was going to say can you send it to. She's, she's got access to. So if she can do that, that would be it. Yeah. If she can do that, let her do it. That might make it easier. Yeah. If you can share from yours. And then. Random. What if it's easier if I came. I've tried doing the window and. I can't. I think it is frozen. It is frozen and stinking. Oh. Thank God. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Fast Fast. So when I shared my screen, can you all see it or is it a blank page? Video as well. Okay. I got was just chat without some kind of... I can I put the slides on here for our purposes for you to. See if you'd like to follow along. Okay. That works, and then I'll just send that video to you guys after. Okay, does that work? Perfect. Okay. Perfect. Does everybody hear me? Okay? On the screen? Can you see more? Okay. Thumbs up. Perfect. Well, hello everybody. Thank you so much for having me here tonight. My name is Caroline Heathley, and I'm the Executive Director of Entrepreneurship for All. We are a nonprofit organization that is working towards driving economic development through inclusive entrepreneurship. And so there's two main areas of need that we focus on in the local community. The first big area is the lack of support for small businesses. Although small businesses create more than 60% of new local jobs and more than 60, around $68 of every $100 spent in a local economy with local businesses stays within the local economy. And small businesses are being made a huge driver for generational wealth building. Despite all of that, there is definitely a lack of support in the market for these small businesses. There's tons of accelerator programs for technology startups. We have Techstars, Boulder, and all of the really kind of high growth investor exit mindset. But when it comes down to brick and mortar, grassroots, mainstream type of businesses, there is a gap there. We aim to really fill that gap. And then the second piece that we really focus on is the underrepresentation of diverse small business owners. And so although 50% of our population's women, only 30% of small business owners are women. And there's many, many more stats on my thing here. And so yeah, just in terms of 40% of the population is BIPOC, but only 20% of small business owners are BIPOC. And so really addressing trying to break down barriers for diverse populations to really drive business ownership amongst the entire community, the entrepreneurship for everyone. And so those are two why, how our model was designed. And so the way that we do that, the way that we break down these barriers is there are a couple different programs. The core of our program is a one year accelerator program that is free for entrepreneurs. And where they go through a three month intensive business training course. And this course is currently virtual. It was in person and then in COVID we switched to virtual and since then we've maintained virtual just because we've had a lot of feedback from the entrepreneurs that it's more convenient and they're able to really attend more in the setting. And so there's a three month business course. And then they're also each entrepreneurs matched with a team of three mentors from the community. And so it's one a way to provide that mentorship, that guidance, accountability for new small business owners, but also building that social capital, building networks for people to really be able to make it and make it in the local, in the local business scene. And so and then at the end of those three business of the end of those three months, entrepreneurs give a presentation they pitched to a panel of judges also volunteers in the community where they have an opportunity to win prize money. We, we award $20,000 in direct cash assistance per cohort. And that's for cohort of 15 entrepreneurs. And so between breaking down free access to education, mentorship and then of course the access to capital. We're really trying to build that more inclusive entrepreneurial ecosystem here in Loma. And so from there. Yeah. Keep going. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. So just so where we are today. So we launched in Longmont in 20 at the end of 2019. And since then we've had 55. Oh, yay. Yeah. Oh yeah. Thinking about that. Okay. These are all pictures of local entrepreneurs who found their programs. And we have a small business directory too that I can share with you guys. Let's take a look. And so we've had 55 companies go through our programs of which 75% of the founders are female female founders. 65% are by pop founders and 55% are immigrant businesses. We offer programs in English and in Spanish. We launched our Spanish program in 2021 with the acknowledgement of Longmont population being 25% Hispanic. And so since then we've actually in our most recent round of selection, we've had, we have more demand on the Spanish side than ever before. So we're excited about that. And of those 55 startups, 80% of them are still active and running, which is, which is higher, much higher than the average accelerator program. If you look at the, you know, more of the tech side tech startups. It's a much lower success rate. And then in terms of local jobs, of course, job creation is also at our core of creating these new companies. And so to date, we've had 90 new jobs. Some of our, some of our companies have, are looking to, you know, are looking to scale up, but some of them are really just looking to be so large for doors or looking to hire a team of a few people. And really just whatever, whatever product or service they're, they're offering it to the community is solving a local need and a local problem. And so that's really what our focus is. Okay. And then just in terms of where we are to date with our partners and supporters, these are some of our previous donors and also partner organizations. So we've had a lot of, a lot of support from, from local, local organizations and hoping to add, add the community development block grant to this as well. And so as far as others go to our, in terms of our proposal for the block grant, our annual site budget is $400,000. $400,000 per year. 55% of that goes to our personnel. We have a 4% bilingual team that is really makes all of this happen. So we have a program manager for English side. We have a program manager for Spanish side and then a program coordinator to help with all of our marketing communications and really outreach to, to the local community. And so that is what the proposal would be helping to fund. And yeah, that is, that is really kind of the overview. I just wanted, I wanted to leave enough time for questions and answers and any type of, yeah, feedback you guys have. So it looked like you had a wait list of a couple hundred folks. Of entrepreneurs. Yeah. So to date, we've had just over 250 people applied to our programs. And then our selection process is pretty, it's very community based. And so we have, we send the applications through a review process, which we call the reading phase where volunteers can go through and give feedback directly in our app to the entrepreneurs. And then from there we select enter people to interview. And then from the interviews, we also have volunteers assist us with interviews. And then from there, we ask people to be in the programs. And so we have, as of now we have a limit of 20 per cohort. So it's 10 and 10, like 10 in English and 10 in Spanish. For the summer program, we just selected 11 on the Spanish and nine on the English. So is that a volume of 20 people a year? Yeah. It's, it's 40 total per year. So we run this twice per year. Four times English and Spanish are cycle teams. So. Or programs. Yeah. Now are they all Longmont residents? Are they Boulder County? Yeah. Great question. So it's at this point it's been just over, it's run 60% Longmont residents. And then we do serve the greater Boulder County area. And so we've had a few in Boulder, a few in yeah, like in Erie, Lafayette and a lot of kind of just surrounding communities. Cool. Do you plan on applying for funding through the Housing and Human Services around this year as well? You know, I, that's a great question. I have not been, yeah, no, I have not. No you haven't. I will. Brian. Oh, Stacey Duncan now. Oh, we have a quorum now. We may have a quorum now. Oh, well it was on her. I thought I was part of the quorum anyway. Yeah. Stacey's here. We technically have a quorum. I've heard everything. Okay. Perfect. Oh, hi Stacey. Stacey, hang on. Stacey. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I do it. Right. That's my little. That's tricky. Stacey, we saw you talking. Do you want to say anything? Can you go back to those? Stacey, can you hear us? I am. I know. So maybe you can stop it. I'll mute Stacey. You unmute Stacey. Stacey, welcome. Can you hear us? Not when you mute it. Yeah. Okay. Try again. Stacey, can you hear us? Okay. Okay. So we have a quorum now it sounds like. So we're just going to keep going with presentations. Is that okay? Yeah, we can do minutes at the end. Okay. So if Stacey, well not Brian, if you have any questions or Stacey, if you have any questions, just wave us down. I do have a couple of questions. Yes, of course. So these startups, these operations that were created, are they full-time for the owners? Are they part-time? Are they providing a living? Yes. So some of them start out as part-time. Some of them, it's been 38% of our participants when starting our program have been unemployed or under employed. And so, and then apart from that, some of them do do it as a part-time with the intention goal of making it full-time by the end of our year program. And are you doing, are you partnering on technical assistance with other organizations? Yes, we partnered with Sister Carmen to do our, we do computer skills training workshops prior to the course. And then throughout the three-month course, we have our technical team in Massachusetts, which is where I founded. They have other helping aspects throughout the program. And does that include business support? Yes. And that comes out of Massachusetts? Out of Massachusetts, but then also the mentor team helps a lot with the business support. And so they meet with their mentor team for 90 minutes per week for the first three months and then 90 minutes per month for the following nine months. Okay, thank you. Any other questions from Caroline? So, I have a question. I can't move on this. So what can you tell us about the demographics about the clients that you serve? I mean, besides the immigrants and women, do you track any socioeconomic demographics as well? We do, yes. And so actually for our latest round that we've selected for the summer cohort, I just did that, collected that data right before this meeting. So I don't have from the full 55 today, but I do for the upcoming round. It's around 74% are below the 80% of the median. The majority of our participants have never really received any type of formal business training. And a lot of them have never had a mentor figure in their lives. And so, yeah, it's a, it's a really powerful thing to witness about having a support system is so important. And did you cover what percentage of the total budget this request covers? Yes. And so of our personnel cost is 55%. And we have 50,000 of that committed for this year. And then so it's up, it's 107 or something. And the block grant funding would be, yes. Yeah. So I did the math in my notes of those two. But so the block, the block grant, originally we had more cost of 50,000. And now it's 30,000 more or less. And so I think it was amounting to around 17% of what? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Thank you. Can you just give me an example of some of the types of businesses that you've helped get started? I would love to. Can you play that? Yeah. Can we try that? I can. Because I'm just into Eric Ozemka's side dish. I recommend side dish. And they have a lot of your folks on interviews. They do. Yeah. Eric has been, he was one of our final presentation judges in our last round and has since had a lot of them on. Which side of them? Oh, it's this one. So it's just here. And so one of our partners, our recent partners is Comcast, the Comcast Foundation, invest in digital equity programs. And so part of that is they've donated airtime to feature some of our entrepreneurs. And they just filmed this in the times, the long went times collaborative. Has anyone been there? No? It's so beautiful. You've got to talk about it. But they have a shared kitchen space. So a lot of entrepreneurs have been working there. So this is, sorry. Yeah, I'm trying to find my X out of full screen. Okay. Well, I'll just tell you. There we go. Got it. Got it. Okay. One more question, but we just announced we're덯 doing a math. I'm going to start for you. I'm George forward, right here. My name is Karrya, I'm here for a full-screen book. Lips snack and look tech and things that are simple. I'm going to take some of this. And it didn't have the flare where I'm from. I was like, Whoa. But like me got from people all is the ability to build a business properly. They really give you a math. and you're on your way to a fresh start. So segue into types of businesses. There's a lot of food, like restaurant concepts, catering concepts and whatnot, food trucks as well. And then a lot of local service businesses. So we've had Deluxe Barbers on Main Street has done their program. And so has Maker General on Main Street. And yeah, lots of, we have a couple of DEI consulting companies that have come out of our programs and a car washing service. And really kind of across the board of, yeah, all types of small businesses. No, no one? Mm-hmm, yeah, a lot of them in the street. A lot of them in the street, businesses. Is there any time or financial commitment that these entrepreneurs need to enter the program? They do not. The only thing that we do ask is that they are committed to the classes and their mentor meetings. And so, which for the first three months is about at least eight hours a week. So it's a heavy time commitment, but it is, yeah, in terms of we don't take equity or ask for any type of fees to enter the program. Okay, all right, thank you guys so much. Also, I just have to do this while we're here. We are looking for mentors. For a summer program, so if anyone would like to join, just I'll leave some cards up here. Shameless volunteer pitch. But thank you guys so much. It's really great to be here. Thank you for coming and being patient with our, and we getting it, and being patient with her. Yeah, I'll leave some of these there. All right, I'm gonna go ahead and pick it up. That's fun. So I guess if Stacey has a question, she can just wave Erica down. Because the unmute her and do that whole. Yeah. I think you can raise a hand, there's just so much out. Thank you for coming down. Yeah, I was close. So I'm gonna do this again, so they can see you speaking and we are sharing. So okay, just let me know when to suspect it's good. It's a little weird. We're all gonna do some talking, so you can't, we're rotating folks through here. So, and you did a great job of not reading your notes. So I, however, I'm going to read my piece of paper. So, hello all. I'm Rebecca Shannon with St. Graham Habitat for Humanity. Got our Executive Director, David Emerson and John Lovell, Resource Director of Resource Development. So thank you for this opportunity and thank you for taking the time to let them work through all this stuff. So, be a smooth way for us. So we're gonna take this opportunity to discuss a plan development on East Rogers Road and funding needs related to that project. So thank you everybody who's here in the room and the votes that are online. So Habitat for Humanity, we are a local non-profit providing access to home ownership. We partner with families and individuals who are stable enough for home ownership but can't access traditional financing. Our service area includes the St. Graham Valley School District and the town of Estes Park. In the 34 years that we've been partnering with the community, we've built 115 new homes of those 96 have the original homeowners still living in their home and 31 mortgages are paid off. We talk about building strength, stability and self-reliance through shelter and I think that those statistics really prove that out. We add quality housing and bring in economic benefit to the community. The assessed value of our homes is close to 40 million and our homeowners paid more than 213,421 property taxes. So they're really, they are, we're investing in them and they are investing back in us and in the community. Currently have nine homes under construction. Eight of those are in lawnmower. One is in DiCono. You can see the chart here that shows where some of the towns are that we've been building. In addition to new home construction, we've completed 55 critical home repairs. Most of those are for our nationally recognized neighborhood revitalization program. And the home repairs we do are for seniors, veterans and folks with disabilities. So helping a population that owns a home, helping them maintain their own. Next slide. So Habitat Colorado serves all of the habitat affiliates across the state of Colorado. They have done a survey of habitat homeowners across the state. They did an initial survey in 2018 and a follow-up in 2021. And in the 2021 survey, we have 500 responses giving us solid data to demonstrate that home ownership is truly transformational. I'm not sure that you can read all this little fine print. So I'm gonna give you the highlights. 81% of homeowners report that they are somewhat or much more financially stable since moving into their habitat home. 90% of homeowners reported a positive impact on both their mental and physical health after becoming homeowners. And 98% reported improvement in their children's academic performance. And those are just some of the highlights. I mean, there's crosses the gamut from basically, I mean, when you talk about the kids' academic performance if the kids can stay in the same school district in the same class, if they can make friends and become part of the community, mom and dad are less stressed out because you better in school, we all benefit from that. And then this over here on the side, some of the industries that habitat are the top industries that habitat homeowners work in, healthcare, education, office slash administrative, transportation and retail. So we like to emphasize these are folks who are already part of our community. They are living and working with us side by side of us. We wanna give them an access to home ownership so they can stay in the community instead of community from farther and farther away. So next one, not quite as pretty as that infographic. So I've told you a little bit about us, a little bit about habitat homeowners. And now we're gonna talk about the East Rogers Road Development. This is a joint effort between St. Gray and Habitat and our community housing development organization, development organization, CHOTO is the abbreviation that we're gonna use a lot. This project is located on East Rogers Road between South Martin and Lashley. It's actually two lots. The homes will be permanently affordable to households earning 60% AMI or less. We've completed an environmental assessment and we're now ready to tackle the infrastructure which is what we're gonna ask for money for. And now John's gonna stand up and give you some more specifics about the homes themselves and the project overall. Thanks, Rebecca. We've been working for several years on designing the infrastructure as well as the architecture of the project. So this is a rendering of what will be nine homes, nine town homes in three buildings. Three of them, three in the front are gonna be single story buildings. We'll tell you more about the details of that in a minute but they will be handicapped, accessible and ready to be modified as appropriate. Since they're single floor you don't have to worry about stairs or that sort. Next slide. So, this is just to show you the architecture's done but basically what we've got are six units that will be three and four bedroom. The middle units are four bedroom units with the bedroom on the first floor. So again, that could be modified to make it handicapped, accessible if necessary. They'll have two card rodges that is kind of a concession to making sure we fit in the neighborhood number one and that we keep folks from parking on Rogers Road and that sort of thing. So they will have a place for their card or cards. Three bedroom units, we're looking right now at a $225,000 selling price and we've been following the real estate market of the town home doesn't sell for that in this area. We've provided what is essentially a 0% interest mortgage or equivalent of a 0% interest mortgage and that's going to be depending on the families. We keep it that way by modifying the terms of the length of the mortgage. So it'll be roughly between 900 and 150 months. You can't get a three bedroom apartment. Hard to get one in this town with a little on paid that price for the unit. Four bedroom, we're looking at $237,000, same kind of overlaying in its own past. This is the single floor unit we were talking about. They'll have zero entry points into the house which is critical for a wheelchair of accessibility. Everything will be designed with a wheelchair in line. Bathroom doors wide enough to accommodate a wheelchair and turning radius for that. The hallway is the same sort of thing. We will, let's talk about being adapt, readily adaptable because some families don't want the lower counters and everything else that you might have in an ADA accessible type of home. But as an example of my construction guy I always like to talk about is the doorways for the sinks all have the kick plates that can come out and everything else. You could pull a wheelchair right up to the sink if that's what the family wants to do. Again, they'll have garages. They'll be, in this case, this is facing the Rogers roadside but let's put it in the next slide. This is the outline of kind of how the infrastructure and everything will work. So garages will be accessible from on the property itself. Rogers road down here. Third Avenue, there won't be any direct access to the property per se. The infrastructure is the thing we're really focusing on now. We want to prepare that so that when we finish our current ATOM project, we can move right to this project. That's going to include a lot of land work to get it ready to go. This private alleyway that we're showing here, improvements in the sidewalk, all the utilities that'll have to be brought in, everything else like that. We've gone out and gotten a rough idea of what it will cost us. That's what we've been given. We're going to go through the bidding process here in July so that we could solid estimates to be able to move forward on. Next slide. Most of this project we're now identified a financing port coming from a variety of sources. We do sell our mortgages. We can tell you more about that if you're interested. It's basically a way that we can build faster in our community. We do get a lot of in-kind support from local contractors, anticipating fee waivers that will be driven for the permanent affordability of those homes. We've got a commitment from the Division of Housing, $30,000 a unit. So we're bringing money in from outside the community, of course. Several years back, we were awarded CHODO funding for this project. So that's part of our funding stream. And then our course of request that's in the proposal is for $646,000 to get the infrastructure going so we can build when the time comes. So with that, before you hop off there, we're looking at a project that's $2.8 million that we're doing, which we're looking for this $646,000 in a wonderful world from CBG, but it could be affordable housing funds. So at this point, now we can go to the next slide, we're open for questions that you might have and the boss is gonna answer those. Okay. I didn't wanna make, I did some of these slides. It's a public alleyway, actually, so it's a little bit more involved. And one of the reasons we don't have final bids is we have just gone through our third technical review with the sitting next week. We'll have the fourth technical review so that will be finalized and then we'll, that's why we're starting, we only have the one bid. And so I do anticipate that that, we're hoping to get that $702,000 down. We just won't know until more like July how much. But we have seen quite an increase in overall material and labor costs in the last two years, as you can imagine. So that's a solid number. That's probably a ceiling more than anything else. That's $646. Happy to answer any questions. So thank you. I have maybe a stupid question, but I'm just gonna embarrass myself and ask it anyway. So you had mentioned mortgage sales. I guess I'm just wondering who buys a mortgage that is for practical purposes a 0% interest mortgage? Some really good partners. Yeah, that's a great question. So actually there's several banking partners in Chapa, Colorado Housing and Finance Authority will buy our mortgages purely so that we can help build more. So First Bank is a huge statewide partner. They will buy, so we originate the mortgage to the homeowner and then we sell the mortgage at a discount. So nothing changes in terms of the payments for the homeowner and we just get a little less than the mortgage value there. So it's a way to accelerate. But we do have some incredible banking partners. First National Bank has bought mortgages. The USDA actually outside of Longmont is we do mortgages with for our homeowners and the co-owners as part of this. So that's something that's changed over the last 10 years is we used to hold on to all of our mortgages. But we really have seen it as a constraint to building faster and building more homes. Do the banks get credit under the community reinvestment? They do. I have a friend who's worked in Habitat for Humanity and he's a volunteer. He did a lot of work. And I was just wondering how many mortgages are involved in building a house and how many are paid to contractors or paid for it? So I would say no one's paid of volunteers that are true volunteers. We have staff, we have three sites of revisors. We have AmeriCorps who get a stipend. It's really, it's less than minimum wage that help coordinate construction. Where we end up seeing paying in the trades, HVAC, plumbing, electrical, foundation, things of that, the excavation. And that's where that in-kind, it might not have been clear. That's where, what we call an in-kind meaning. So excavating some of you may know them. They dug the foundation, they excavated out the foundations for three or next to three for years and years. But as far as the payment, it's mainly the professional subcontractors. As to how many volunteers it takes, we say that it takes 2,500 hours to build a home. 2,500 hours of volunteer labor on top of the contractors and the paid staff. So 2,500 hours during COVID takes a lot longer because there's a few less volunteers. Pre-COVID, I think the shortest we ever built a house was in nine months. So things like weather slow us down, things like pandemic slow us down. I have a question, because this is the first time I hear it coming from habitat. And so it caught my attention when I heard it. And that's the term permanently affordable. That's right. So you all have never had, I think you all same brain under other things may have, but are we talking deed restrictions? We are, yeah. So that's been something with the inclusionary housing. There's two answers to that question. One is philosophical and another is more practical and wrong month. When the inclusionary housing ordinance came, was put into place, 12% or in our case, 9% of every development has to be permanently affordable. So practically we're not gonna look at those nine and say which of those have, one of those houses has to be permanently affordable. So really we make them all permanently affordable. We do permanently affordable home ownership and lions with the lions homes we did in Estes Park. So philosophically our board does talk about deed restrictions. We are candidly trying to work on whether that's something we would wanna see everywhere. But I think there's a strong argument that given how hard and difficult it is to bring a unit to market, if we can provide a permanently affordable for sale product, but and also provide a very good rate of return, then we feel we're in the right place. So at 0% interest, of course, all your principles going to equity. And then even at 2% on 220,000, that's a lot of equity you're building over each and every year. And then we can assure the next when a person sells those homes that home, it's gonna go forward way to someone else. The other thing that's nice that people maybe don't think about is the property taxes or have a bit of a governor on them in terms of increases. So we see more assessments go way up and that's created a bit of a strain on some homeowners who have a paper evaluation. But practically they have to pay that property tax. So it's not all of our homes and each affiliate does things a little bit differently depending on the circumstances and the situation. But in Longmont with inclusionary housing, it just makes sense to make them all equal. I would add that one of the things we're seeing recently is that also we're seeing that restriction from the state. Not necessarily permanently affordable, but a 30-year, 40-year, 40-year, 40-year. So it's a relatively new phenomenon and it was a big philosophical hurdle for us and our board to cross. So how do you feel like the owners of the board? So we don't have a waiting list. We have an interest list. And so when we know, we basically project out the number of homes we believe we're gonna be able to bring to market within a reasonable period of time, call it nine months to a year, and then we'll select a number that assures that we will have that number of homeowners and they can be working on their sweat equity. But it comes down to need. They have to demonstrate three things. That there's a need that could be overcrowding, unaffordable rent, not able to get traditional financing. Willingness to partner. So are they willing to go through the educational plans as we require to prepare them for home ownership to do the sweat equity? If someone is physically unable to do the sweat equity, we'll figure out a way for them to neatly contribute. That's not ever gonna be a barrier for someone who physically can't be on site. And then ability to repay an affordable mortgage. So you saw kind of a range there of the mortgage. The only reason that is is we are most concerned about keeping that individual's payment at less than 30%. We generally use 27% of their income. So it might lengthen the term of the mortgage for someone who's a little bit lower income. So it's really not, it tends not to be income-based. I mean, at the lowest, lowest level, someone would not be able to afford even that mortgage, but it's generally credit, and not perfect credit, but are you in a position based on credit history and some of the things with your credit to maintain an affordable mortgage and that type of thing. So those three things, permanent US residency just because of the, you know, or placing collateral credit on against collateral. And it has to be a primary residence for the individual. So I think those are the main things. Yeah. More of a curiosity question. Certainly not a merit question. Is there a buffer between the back of those homes and third? There is, and that's one of the reasons it's taken a while to get this plan entitled is we had to work through with city staff, what that looked like. So there will be a, there will be a fence and there will be really act like backyards, but in the code, they're supposed to be front loaded or they're supposed to look like they're front loading off of third avenue, it's a little confusing. I want to say it's 15 to 20 feet. I really have to look, but there will be a nice fence on the front. And then there's actually an access with a gate from for the other houses to go through third avenue. So. The environmental assessment did cover the road noise and the noise from the train. So, so that's one of them. There's a whole environmental justice section in the environmental assessment, which was the first time I'd done it. It was fascinating to learn about. And so based on noise levels, et cetera, you may have to do mitigation in the design to minimize the sound inside the homes, which I thought was pretty cool. So all the materials, general ones, the way we would achieve that. It sounds like an exciting project. Yeah. Yeah, I should acknowledge the city was it's been a huge partner there. So what happened is John mentioned it was two lots. And so the one empty lot came available, what got it under contract in the city, paid for we have an affordable housing fund, loan them up 130,000 on that one. The lot next to it was at the time owned by the city. And it was the old, our center had a folding bank. It was a drop off. Yeah. Donations. And so the city donated that to us and raised that area so we could get the nines. Which is lower in density than that zone contemplates, but it allows, but it's got single family detached on either sides or kind of splitting the middle between maximizing that density and having a bit of a buffer between what is already there. Excellent. So a lot of developers required to, all the developers are required to cut out a certain portion or percentage of the department for affordable housing lately. We've been hearing they're doing a lot of the in lieu instead of that. Is there any way that Habitat can partner with some of those developments to get funding for the building of your houses and meet their requirement with the city? So the way that we have, we've been really kind of behind the scenes work with a lot of developers. The most straightforward way that we've been able to work with developers is just a simple carve out in their subdivision where they donate the land and in some cases the infrastructure. Two subdivisions we're working on now, Mountain Grove, where we have eight Habitat homes and we're actually contracted with Veterans Community Project. We're gonna provide the sites of revision and general contracting services or project management services for those 26 tiny homes. And then Sugar Mill is 12 houses of the 100. They've donated that land. And so that's worked really well because in this case we've had to lead, develop all the infrastructure and the entitlement. In both those cases, we really were just a partner with those developments. Could see what kind of design they had. Our architects blended it, made some minor modifications, but enough that it was affordable, but that would blend with the market rate product. And then we just knew that those lots were gonna be available to us. So that's probably the biggest way and we're working, trying to find other developers to help there. So we would encourage you to encourage the bottom line. There's a lot of line because the land is, they were talking the same, the land, it starts with the land. If the land, you can't go for the house. There's two other things I've mentioned. One is this affiliate has worked in 26 different neighborhoods. So mainly our architects, but also our construction teams built the houses are very good at blending those houses. And we know, we really want people to drive by and not see it as any other house, market rate house against the market rate house. I would say in some cases they're much, much nicer. The second thing is kind of an aside, what you may have heard we got a Mackenzie Scott gift. So she gave this affiliate three and a half million dollars. We were one of 84 affiliates in the country out of 1100 that received that gift. So we have no idea why, but we assume we're doing decent work and there's a need. So one of the questions if it is, well you have that money, why do you need affordable housing? So obviously to John's point, we're most concerned about the finite amount of lots that are left in long months. If we're trying to get 12%, we really believe right in that position we have to get in and out of control. So while P. Lewis is wonderful in some ways, it means that the hurdle is higher if that land is now not gonna be affordable or have any affordable in it. So all I have to say is a lot of what we're doing with that gift is really working with land owners and municipalities to find and secure other land for us. And we're also, we'll partner with other agencies who are doing affordable. Questions on the outside of it? Any questions on the screen? Okay, thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you. One presentation, one presentation, one presentation. It's a short one, so it's okay. Thank you. Thank you. It's up to you. You can listen if you want, that was your choice. I'll listen to this one. Thank you. Good evening, everybody. So I'm Lisa Gallinar, I'm the regional manager for Longmont Housing Authority. I've been with them for about the last year and a half. Tonight, I'm gonna go through some more requests. Sorry, I get really nervous and I talk fast. Thank you. So we have currently nine properties here in Longmont that are all affordable housing for families and seniors. Part of our mission is to bribe by housing and related services to low end and moderate income families, elderly, disabled households and to relieve the community of substandard housing. So all the LHA residents' income is currently at 60% for below AMI and our target properties are 30 to 40% of AMI. Our vision is to be a leader in the provision of affordable housing and our service areas which is primarily Longmont, who knows if we expand a little bit about it. And LHA's CBBG applications are intended to deliver on our goal to ensure properties are safe and welcoming and improve the quality of life for our residents and their families. One of our requests tonight is for security cameras. We are asking to serve Aspen Meadows neighborhood, Flaw River, Spring Creek, Heartstone and the Lodge. We currently have existing camera systems at Aspen Meadows City Apartments, the Suites and Action Village Place Apartments just received some a few months ago. They've been proven to be critical to prevent criminal and other undesirable behavior and help resolve issues when they do occur. Some of those are unauthorized guests, people trespassing overnight in the nighttime hours coming into the community trying to sleep and even resident issues. We are requesting 61,000 to improve the safety and security for the residents of 247 affordable units. And as an example, on April 15th, an unknown person entered the Lodge at Homer Crossing. We had a little mini portable camera we bought off of Amazon. It did catch the guy coming in. We were able to get footage of some of the items he took, some of the damage he did and we turned it all over to police but he did take our camera as well. It was a portable camera on top of a bookcase and moved the bookcase. It was quite an ordeal. So we are looking to put permanent cameras in that. Hopefully this will not happen. One of our other requests is for parking lots resurfacing at the Homer properties which is the Lodge and the Heartstone that service 104 of all units. As you can see from the pictures, we are in need of some repairs. These are HUD 202 properties. So they are targeted to seniors over 62 and they have to meet HUD's AMI of 30% income and that's what they pay of their adjusted income. Hardware will be disabled like I said elderly residents. So it is the ADA repairs and accessibility for the parking lot. We are also requesting a new playground. Currently Ask a Moe's neighborhood has structural issues. We have, these are just a few examples. We have some cracks on a lot of the support beams that is old and aged. So it's been since I started taped off and not usable to the residents. And this is a family property, 28 townhouses of two, three and four bedroom units. So we're requesting 25,800 to repair and replace the structure for the families in that neighborhood. Thank you for your consideration and I'm here for questions. Do the residents want the cameras? Yes, we've done resident surveys. We've worked really closely with long months in your services, our advisory board and done surveys for the last year and a half, one-on-one meetings, group meetings. And that was one of the biggest needs that came out of the properties above birthday parties and giving back to activities. They really wanted that sense of security. I would think something like that paid surface like there'd almost be a requirement to replace that at some point, you know, fix those cracks and safety concerns. So is that true and how would that happen if the funding didn't happen? You know what I mean? We would request to use a reserve replacement for that. We're trying to, we have some other structural repair and stuff we need to do that we need to use for that as well. I'm just curious, how do you feel about the playground? Is it like a sweet playground? Well, the picture I think is the one that's admitted that it's actually part of our, that we went for bid for and looked into. Did you have the kids do a panel? You didn't get their feedback? That's the, well, it's not, sorry. That's all I remember what it looked like. So we just wanted more accessible, accessible to different age groups. We do have a couple of handicapped children living in the playground. So this has some other features that they can utilize as well. So we look at the different textures and stuff and deciding. I would say that also with, you know, that's what you're talking about with searches, with HUD they have inspections. And so if they don't get that done, then, you know, we can get fine and that's more money that they will have to pay if we don't get the services done because of those inspections. So it's like better now to get it done when it's that amount of money compared to what it will be later. Yeah. And you know, it's snow and salt. Right. Yes, and that's really aged that property. And with that being a senior property and with redoing the parking lot, it will actually allow us to bring the parking lot up into the current ADA code to allow, because if we do any resurfacing, any restricting, we have to bring it up into the current code, which would create more handicapped spaces on properties on the residents. Got it. Thank you. Any other questions? Thank you, Lisa. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I'm going to restart your video. Vice chair? Sure. I'll call this meeting to order. Thursday, June 9th, 2022. I'll order any public nobody to be heard. No. Okay. Approved minutes from the May 12th meeting. I'll make two approved minutes. I second it. All in favor. Aye. Aye. Is he saying? I do. There he is. Yep. All opposed. And I'll have to say now he's in there. Passes. Um. There's a voter. Right. Does that pass if we don't have a quorum vote? Well, we have a majority of the quorum here. That's true. Yeah, it passes. Four to zero. Right. And one? Or one more? Right. Yeah, as long as you have a quorum. Right. You don't have to have a. Quorum for every vote. Right. Right. We just have to have a quorum vote. We have a majority of the quorum. A majority of the quorum. We have a majority for a quorum and vote passes as majority of the quorum. That's true. That's right. The question is why are you saying that? All right. Item four, we've completed already outside of the meeting. That was the affordable housing and CBBG funding round presentations. Next on the agenda is estimated final submittal of the 2022 CBBG action plan to have. So I'm going to ask if I can. I'm going to have to function a little bit. So you guys are just going to have to look at me for a minute while I get things squared away. So included in your Molly O'Donnell housing and community investment division manager, that's pretty late in the game since we've been here now for a while together, but still. So you heard our presentations tonight from our applicants. I'm going to go ahead and share this. Budget proposed budget on screen and then kind of walk through the funding recommendations from staff based on the applications received. OK. So this is going to be challenging to see on the screen for the group here. Making as big as I can. So something that I want to stress to the group is that our CBBG funding this year has decreased by $40,000 from last year. The year before that, we received about a $10,000 decrease. So it's trending down. And there's a couple reasons for that. We haven't been able to chat with HUD yet, because this just came through on Saturday. But we know that there's a set amount of funding for entitlement communities, CBBG communities, if based on population increases, new communities arise. It's still the same amount of funding. So it gets distributed amongst more communities. Also, we think that because of ARPA funding and other. You know, there's a lot of federal funding out there. And we think that there was some discussions at Congress about making sure that you can demonstrate that you can spend all of that as well. And so we think that other funding sources such as CBBG might have been reduced because of all the funding out there. The other branch, is that our camera right there? Not that we don't see it. No, that's his camera. Oh, okay. So our funding amount for CBBG has gone down. So it's 519,000 as a total grant. And then what we have available for competitive award right now is showing at 124,000. But it is, we ended up increasing our rehab allocation because we didn't get enough applications to complete all of our CBBG funding. So we could always flex our rehab funds and reallocate that back out to a competitive project in the future. Does that make sense? So the projects that we have applications for for CBBG funding that staff is recommending award totals 124,000. And we typically put about $100,000 in our home owner occupied rehab program. So we've got about a $100,000 of flex funding right now that we could keep in rehab or if we do another funding application round in a few months, we could pull some of that out and fund a new project. Does that make sense? I'm just trying to go over the funding basics first. Also given that this entire group that is online in here is all new to HCI and this funding process with Kathy's retirement and then the prior staff's departures as well. So we have a kind of an open book if you'd like to go over certain things, just let me know. Otherwise I'm gonna kind of give a background of the CBBG funding and the affordable housing fund and then talk about those staff recommendations. So I'm going back up to the top here. This is not a home funding year for Longmont. We do get the consortiums share funding for 2023 so that'll be next year for our affordable housing fund. This, we have more revenue projected for this upcoming year than ever before. That's because our fee in lieu is projected to start coming in in a pretty good wave. So with that, once you consider the administration that we need to pull out, which is at the bottom, we need about $483,000 to cover staff salaries and other administrative needs. I'm moving back up. And then we have several projects that we have commitments to already that we pull off the top of that and then what is left is open up for competitive award. Right now we had about our competitive funds available or 1.6 million and we have the one project proposed here for Habitat for 646,000. So that means we've got about a million dollars. Right now, unobligated to a project, we will put out the funding cycle again and more times if needed to soak up that money. I will let you know overall, we're in an interesting time. That is because the city with ARPA funds in partnership with the Housing Authority has a lot of affordable housing development on the horizon. But at this point of this year, it's all in planning phases except for a couple. And so they're too early to apply. So we think in a few months time by certainly by next year, we will have some really large projects applying that will most likely get larger size allocations than what we're talking about tonight. Is there any questions on how the funding budget, yes? So if we don't use that million by the end of the year, that hurts the budget for next year? Not necessarily, it will carry over. We do have a pretty hefty projection on the revenue here from Yanlu and that might not all hit either. And in that case, it will come next year and we just put that in that funding pot for next year to open up. This isn't a funding question. Sugar mill, are those sales secured for two of the three parcels? Do you know? That haven't passed participating in? Well, they mentioned it and I had heard that developers bought one each of three parcels. So two of them, but I didn't know the city was involved in any of that in terms of affordable housing. Yes, we are. So I'm opening up my screen, maybe. Trying to get back to Zoom to show our folks. Hey, Kayleen, do you mind unmuting? I wanna introduce this crew here. I'm gonna stop sharing for a moment so I can introduce everyone. I should have done it earlier, but in our interesting start to the meeting we didn't get there. So I'm gonna ask you to introduce yourself, Deb, Kayleen, Katie, and Adam. Kayleen, will you start since there's a question about the sugar mill? He was wondering if the parcels at Sugar Mill have been purchased? Yeah, it sounded like there were two parcels that were being purchased by developers and whether City of Longmont's involved for affordable housing on those. Thank you. Thank you. So I introduced Kayleen is our affordable housing specialist and she primarily runs the inclusionary housing program for us. So when a development comes in for a pre-app and starts getting through the actual development review process, she does the inclusionary housing review and makes sure that they meet their 12% requirement in some fashion. Great. And then Adam, do you mind introducing yourself? Doing the senior meeting and the... And then Deb, do you mind introducing yourself? I don't mind. Sorry, I have a internet problem so I'll help support them with all of the projects. Thanks, Deb. And then, Kayleen, if you're there, do you mind introducing yourself? Yeah, so I'm Kayleen Palmer and I am the Housing Development Specialist. So what we're seeing all of our development projects that we're getting off the ground with the ARPA funds that the council allocated earlier this year. Thank you, everybody. So we do have our resources here. We are fully staffed in housing and community investment, yay. And so if there's any other questions about inclusionary housing or anything like that, we can pull them in. So it's 115,000 for a needs assessment? Housing needs assessment? Is that separate and distinct or included in the every three years of housing and human services does a needs assessment? Is that separate? So this is separate. So this is actually grant funded by DOLA. So we are, in the end, we'll end up putting about $26,000 of affordable housing fund at the local match, but 86,000 will get reimbursed by DOLA. But we have to hold it all here so we don't overspend, but it will get reimbursed back to the fund. So that, yes? Is it my understanding, it's good. And again, these two words, is it more attainable housing versus affordable needs assessment? So it's more specific than the assessment that we feed into the con plan every four years. So it's really supposed to, it does, we just wanted to cover affordable attainable, really just housing stock more than, well, we do get some good income information related to housing needs, but this is more about housing stock, what kind of stock we have gaps in in what we need, and looking at our affordable housing incentives to see what we could do compared to other communities in the nation. So it's specifically grant funded out of the state. So it will be our group working with planning closely to put that together. What is our fiscal year again? Is it, it's not Cali, but it is, it is in all of the local. So, I'm gonna just adjust as we go to make sure we can see everyone. Okay, so let me go back to sharing this. So it goes on between these eight. So it just seems like in terms of 1.6 million with the million of this habitat for humanity were funded approximately a million left. It seems like we're already at this point in the game that's not likely that there's gonna be any large projects that are coming up and with planning and all of that, I would think it already be in the hopper. Does that make one for me to think about? Well, so not, so habitat in the in between our partnering we've heard and they do plan on submitting next go around. We also know that Hobart communities, their senior living communities, they have a need for some rehab work. They just weren't quite, they didn't have their cost estimates that they're going to have to apply next time too. Next time I'm thinking the end of summer is when we're gonna open it up again. So we do have a couple that are gonna be in the hopper that may or may not use fair amount. And then the real, the larger developments, we will have some that will have financing in place enough to know what their gap is by early next year. So I really think this isn't for an odd little dip. It's kind of a post COVID dip where we had the couple projects that were in development during COVID are hitting now like the sunset element, permanent supportive housing project got awarded, Christman to affordable apartments are getting, they're gonna close next week. We're just in that post COVID dip where everybody was kind of pausing and now they're ramping up again, especially with ARPA funds. So I do think this is a temporary dip. Okay, thank you. Okay, so is there any other questions on any of these, the projects that we have basically pulled off the top before we open up the competitive funds? So then I'm gonna go back to our CDBG funding here. So public service, we are only allowed to use 15% of our CDBG funds for public service. So that means something that is not specifically rehab for the support of low income people or some other example projects that we've had out there but primarily rehab and other eligible activities. So every year we plan $50,000 for housing counseling. We do support that on an ongoing basis and that is definitely public service. And then you for all who you've heard from tonight, that is an economic development activity. So there's a couple of ways in CDBG you could go about that. You could track job creation, which is very intensive and we need a lot of really specific data from the people that end up being successful and starting their business through the program. That is something that we have, the city has not delved into for a very long time just because the affordable housing need here has been so great for so long. So the best way to move forward for E for All and for us is to call it a public service and use their education sessions as the true public service that's happening. They do have to still get some income data from their participants, but that's the way to do it. The reason they had requested a higher amount but only 30,000 is available for this is because we are capped by public service at 80,000. So I would say typically going in the past decade of the Housing and Community Investment Division, if we had housing projects coming through, this project would probably not be funded because of the, that's just the history of what this board has advised and what has happened. So for E for All, our division opened up this funding cycle last October and E for All was the only applicant and we just opened it up now and they applied again and we didn't get enough additional applications that were ready to go to fill up all the funding. So at this point in time, because we need to spend some CDBG money, staff is recommending that we fund them as a public service. We don't get into the long-term job creation tracking and more do it on the education side. You can, there is, this is part of staff analysis because they have an ongoing, this is their ongoing funding for operating costs, right? So we could expect them to apply on a continual basis and then that's up to staff recommendation and your board funding recommendations to city council whether you want to fund them even with affordable housing competitive projects. So for some context, it was early on in my time in one month, I think it was even before you were chair. They have come before this board in the past. You were still with the board, I think. And the board decided because they were so new not to fund them background to see if they could garner the community support to make them more sustainable before they came back before the board. So just some context, this is not their first time coming before this board. They've applied three times, come to this board now twice. Right. And, you know, it's up to you guys to let us know if you think that they demonstrated what you were looking for at the last time. Studentability and community investment outside us, outside the city. Sure. Something you'll see that's not in our public service that typically has been in the past is security deposit assistance for voucher holders that are now going through our, well, it was really through the housing solutions for Boulder County. Now it is that need has been covered for the last couple of years by the locally funded voucher program. And so we've had HSBC security deposits on this list for a couple of years and we've actually had to de-obligate that funding and move it around because that need is no other there. Just in case you remember seeing that and it's not there now, that's why it's, that need is being filled. Okay. That's a good question. Do you need us to vote on that you call on Maynard? Do you want us to wait for that or? I don't know how you've done it in the past if that makes you guys more comfortable. If you want to vote first or hear the staff. I don't remember what you, yeah, I don't remember. Yeah, I don't remember exactly how we did it. I think, I think it makes sense to hear the staff and also I mean, Jerry, you could decide this but I think that's how we did it before we moved that Molly M provide her feedback. You want to vote at once? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. You could, you could change it. You could vote on each project if you wanted to be. So I'm going to switch Sharon since now we're getting into some detail. Well, we used to have the TRG. That's right. It's their recommendation. They would come with the recommendations first. That's right. And they were just hand over hand. I'm also looking at the time at day 40. So, Okay. So this will go a little bit quicker. So you had in your packet, the staff memo for each of these projects with our recommendations and our analysis. We did something different this year. We tried to include everything that's in our funding policies and procedures the way that we make recommendations. We translated that into a rating system so that each of us in HCI could review and see if they met all that criteria and just try and be a little more streamlined with how we review and then how we let you guys check out the data. So the Habitat Project. Thank you. This is like a real test of coordination. Okay. So for the Habitat Project, we, if you heard, they were requesting CDBG funds. CDBG funds are eligible for the purpose of public infrastructure. They'd have to do Davis Bacon for daily wages and it's a process. But generally because of our funding amount this year, whether we funded any of the other applicants tonight, we wouldn't have enough to fully fulfill their request with CDBG. So our recommendation is to continue with the Affordable Housing Fund. That's what they got in the past because we've already funded this project in other ways. The terms that we recommended here are the same 0% interest for 20 years with a payback basically once they close. Obviously a CDBG is a grant so they don't have to pay it back. So, but that means then if we give them a grant once they close on the properties, then they do, they will keep the proceeds essentially rather than having a loan obligation. So our recommendation was to go ahead and fund them fully with the Affordable Housing Fund. I, we could discuss if you want to considering part CDBG and part Affordable Housing Fund. I could not find any examples where we've provided CDBG to have a tap in the past. All the Affordable Housing Fund, at least in the last five years plus. So I'm kind of making our recommendation based on consistency with what we've done and given that you want to grant for the end result is those in the 60% AMI range versus lower ones. So if there's any discussion or questions. Molly, why do you think that they requested CVT? Because you don't have to pay it back. But they haven't done it in the past. I don't know if they requested it in the past. That's something I've been trying to dig through but it's hard to tell if they requested it in the past and then between HCI, TRG and this board, the decision was made to make it Affordable Housing Fund, I'm not sure. So you're, if I understand correctly, you're saying that those CDBG funds may be better invested in projects that are serving a lower AMI. Typically, especially when you're giving a grant. Okay, thank you. You could consider a combo if you want. It's not necessarily streamlined but that is out there if it's possible. Can Affordable Housing, will everybody defer or turn into a grant? They can be deferred, certainly. In this case, they've been pretty consistent at this term, zero percent for 20 years. So being the first year out the gate, we're sticking with consistency as a recommendation but we are definitely open to mixing it up if there's good feedback to do so. Do you know if their price points were based on counting those CDBG funds versus? I do not know that. But we definitely, let's see, I think we said when we put out our notice of funding availability, hey, Adam or Kayleen, could you look at our website real quick and remind me what we said was potentially available in CDBG? We didn't say 646 was available so they must be expecting that if they get CDBG would be partial. Cause we didn't even have that much on the table to start with. So often my measure of like grant or loan would be, would the project be in jeopardy if they don't get the grant? And it sounds like from a historic perspective they've managed with the loans. So there's no reason to believe they, like the costs would go up significantly for the borrowers or the homeowners. I would say on the cost question, perhaps not for borrowers cause they seems like they have a pretty good setup, experienced setup and doing it that way. I will say I anticipate the reason that they're requesting it for public improvements is the construction cost escalation. That's just crazy right now. So that might be a stressor for them causing a gap that they don't yet have a source to fill. So I guess it's up to this board to decide whether or not we want to support staff recommendation to council considering this one. Do I have a motion? You guys need a motion on this one. So what, but do you have to find a motion to accept staff recommendation on the type of type funding? Or not, or otherwise. Or, or meant to change it? Yeah. Or would you need a motion? I move. I move. I move. Brother Moves. And Brian Seccas. All in favor. I need to see Stacey. She's in here. I see your hand up. Yeah. She's holding me on her hand up. Right there. All opposed. Some animals. Did you get that motion? Erica? So I will give the kind of a combo analysis on the LHA projects. These are all CDBG applications. So we do have a good amount of visibility into LHA's needs, now that the city is working so closely. And so some of these needs have come out of capital needs assessments that LHA prepared to try and plan out all of the work that needs to be done. I will say the projects on here are, you know, 20% of what they need to do. And so this, they absolutely would have other projects that they could use their replacement reserves or they'll probably keep applying is what I would anticipate because they've got plenty of projects. And I will support the security systems have made a big difference in resident culture and the sense of safety and actual safety. It really is a deterrent to those that know that they're there. And then the playground, I mean the playground has not been usable for several years. It is in need. And then the parking lots that we kind of went over that pretty good detail where there are ADA compliance issues. They, if you touch the parking lot a small bit you need to touch the whole parking lot. So that's why they're coming in for the funding in one fell swoop rather than doing their small regular projects that they could do on their own. So our recommendation is CDBG funds for those projects. They do serve that the Aspen Meadows neighborhood is 40% and below, AMIs for those families. You heard Hearthstone and Lodge for the parking lot that's 30% and below and then the other one is kind of spread across all the properties and the properties I think all of their residents currently are at 50% and below. So a staff's recommendation is to fund those CDBG grants. I move we accept staff recommendation to fund LHA and CDBG funds. I think you only need to circle back then to E for All. I mean I guess the question for the board is have they met your, have they met what you all wanted from the last time they were here? Which is about three or four years ago. It's been a while and they were brand spanking. They were like the guy had just rolled into town. They did have a good meeting with that. I mean they seem pretty solid at this point to me. I mean they have a lot of community support. They funded or sponsored 55 different business owners and they seem a lot more solid than some of the people we funded to be quite honest so and they're filling a hole that I think other other organizations aren't necessarily filling what I've seen in our application process. It seems like they've really been effective at reaching that target market of the you know individuals who haven't had opportunities in the past to build businesses and equity and wealth. It's impressive that they have been not effective because it's difficult. So I support it. Do you have any questions or thoughts you want to make sure? An organization that does you know equally good things for professor for housing but in terms of employment and economic prosperity for its members? I actually like that it's under public service to be honest. Yeah I really did business education as well and exposing them to career professionals businesses. So that is you know for people who have no clue all they know is that they have a vision and so they provide all of these mentors for them and give them the tools that they need to be successful and the support. So I look at that as being a public service because a lot of those people really don't know what to do or are intimidated too. So I will say if our funding increases next year or mid-year which didn't happen with HUD revised their award last year we could if there's more public service allowed you could fund more if you want to but we could come back for that. Do you want a motion? Yeah can I enter into the motion? Yeah I would know to adopt staff certification on funding for the 30,000 30,000 206 30,000 206 30,000 That's the motion. Do you need a second? All in favor? All those. That's interesting. Okay so our plan is to summarize this into our CDBG action plan which we do pair our affordable housing funding recommendations with and we will take this to City Council on June 28th. Thank you everyone and thank you for helping us get through the technical difficulties. Thanks for being the A.B. support. That was impressive. Yeah. Speaking of if I turn my computer off can we make it still? Well so I mean through the fact that it's been we you know we so Erica's and I're Eric and I we're we're still working on the application tonight our plan was to show you the how we have kept the outcomes that this group created last year because at the collaborative level they have reduced their 16 outcomes statement six and so Eric and I did the translation to make sure that they still fit within hours and we're just going to show that to you and I think it's in your back as you can see it so we weren't expecting any feedback or we weren't going to we were expecting to review and answer questions but no decisions needed to be made. Right exactly. And of course site visits we can always do site visits. The board wants to move forward and we can do those things next month and that's fine. Yeah let's move item six and seven to next month's agenda. Item eight announcements for the business. I'd like to see you have a June 19th on June 19th on August day between one and six. We're going to have a great celebration. Can you speak to Jim? Where? Was there a park? Was there a park? June 19th. Will there be beer? No. Really? You can have beer afterwards. Oh I'm sorry. I thought you were being sarcastic when you said no. But you meant it. Yes I did. I don't drink beer anyway. I know you. It's a tactic to make you go spend money and down that line. There's no food trucks at all. Yeah I need more food trucks. I'll start with food trucks. No truck to eat all. That's what I was just going to say. They do a lot of food stuff. I hear them on like. I've reached out to two of their food people and no one has done anything. I wish I had a right. I'm going to take it off. I'm going to take it off. I'm going to take it off. I'm going to take it off. I think the only message from staff from our side is we are looking into July meeting. Because. Ali Barton is on probably. Could be out. Yeah so we might have to move the July meeting to like either the previous, like the first week or potentially the third. Yeah. We'll keep the chairs updated on that. And I'm not sure if HCI has anything. We have a policy to bring potentially but we can be less than there. I think for us the July meeting will probably be, we're launching the Human Services funding on July 15th. Eric and I have been working pretty hard on giving this out to this new founded. So it might be hopefully if we do it after I be a training of founded on the careers we do have interaction kind of training set for July and it may be a training on how to use founded because it'll be new to to all of us. So I might even ask founded to see if they can do it. To do it as soon as possible. This will just work for us. You're going to need either the 7th or the 20th. So I'm telling you that. Is that right? Is that what we're doing? This is for the Human Services Agency funding. You're going to love it. We're working through it. It's been interesting setting up this new application. Entertain a motion to adjourn. I still move. I do. All right. All in favor. You're adjourned. Good job. Thanks everyone. All of the challenges that we had tonight. That's good.