 She's going to be the hopeful character that rebuilds the Jedi order her her actual role like the plot of this movie is Ray does what Luke didn't Like that's what we know about it so far. They're not going to be building the Jedi order They won't let her fail making the order. It'll be like there'll be some tribulations in there But she'll succeed and it'll be wonderful She'll overcome bigotry There'll be a misogynist that she takes as her apprentice and she'll have to prove herself to them and that she deserves to be there Probably like that, but I think the bad guys Idris Elba perhaps Is that wait for real? No, it's just a rumor that I swear that like the the there's talks of Idris Elba being the uh The the dark side sith guy or something like that. Have they officially finished writing that? uh Because you know it was it wasn't finished before the rider strike and then after the rider strike happened They're able to start again. I don't know if I've heard any official word that they've like actually finished that thing yet Has to be close though. I don't think so, but you know what I found out that the stunt choreographer and the sword master for the film is a Stunt actress who apparently has never choreographed before Well, everybody deserves an opportunity, right? You know and I I I don't think I'm getting my facts wrong because who told someone who told me that would be someone that Everyone in this chat extremely appreciates and respects if you ever watch the prequel trilogy Ah, okay, so maybe someone who should be there coordinating stunts and lightsaber scenes and things like that. Yeah, maybe Man, it's weird that they don't pull people like that in it seems to be a common thread between Disney star wars and disney marvel Like you people are having the same compliance when the daredevil series was going through what they were going through And they didn't bring in some of the stunt coordinators They didn't bring in the people that worked on it before even though they were begging to work on the show Um for some reason people just want to use their own folks and we get You know awesome choreography like we got in isoka Yeah, dude, like I got flamed for saying that And it's like people don't understand that if you put side by side And it doesn't mean that I didn't like the show just means that Put the side by side of the the choreography between isoka and bail in or whoever else And anybody anybody in the prequel trilogy anyone I mean Dude when when hayden was there just having like hayden on set Like holding the lightsaber and flipping the lightsaber around you could tell like the ridiculous difference That he still has after years worth of muscle memory. Yep, and the way he loves doing it Played. Yeah, yeah, he was so into it. Oh him and him in slow isoka Yeah, I don't I don't know what was going on with that, dude But even like the way they made anakin move like they just made them like Well, do you remember? I don't know how you guys felt about it I don't even know how ryan felt about this but the part where anakin is uh disarmed by isoka They they put it underneath the camera. You can't even see what she does Yeah, and I was just like, okay. I get it. She's she's not necessarily winning the fight She's mentally overcoming something, but did you really have to just block it out like the move that she did to Okay, fine. Yeah, and then people are like, oh, she do kooed him. She did anakin's dooku move on him. No It's really annoying that that entire sequence When you know anakin's pushing her back and pushing her back and then for isoka to gain the upper hand it's like It's like he went in slo-mo Just like random above the head swing misses wildly and then like turns around just the right way And that's when we got into the entire people started. I get well, obviously He let her win so that she could make this choice and not kill you know what I mean Yeah, then we start to get into all the what I think is like super intentional vagary about the entire episode for the world between worlds episode I mean, absolutely. He let her win, but At the same time, like the the choreography should have been really indicative of like a proper battle that really uh recognize it and respects both of their abilities, but That's what you get when you don't hire nick gillard. It's you know That's just what happens and they don't seem to be keeping the same continuity It's like you gotta if I don't know why they didn't hire people from the prequels doesn't make sense Well, I for like for all for all the projects going forwards even like for the sequel trilogy It's like, why didn't you have people that worked on? like wouldn't you want the same sort of like Taste like wouldn't you want the same sort of like ingredients put in there? I made the mistake of assuming that since they were plugging hundreds of millions in I was like Farragher should be fine Like they'll nail because they'll that you can afford anyone which means you can afford the best people Which means you'll nail it and then you watch and you're like Yeah, and I think in like force awakens when when you see that duel we People were like able to excuse it because they're like, okay Kyle is swinging wild and he's injured like people made up all their own like excuses for it, which really is like Yeah That that's what disney stars has become right We see a little bit of potential and something a little bit of hope and something we're like Well, I could see how it could lead to this or this is why this happened. They're going to show this later um But for force awakens We saw that combat at the end. You're like, okay. I guess that's the lightsaber combat we get I can't wait for last jedi though. They're gonna fucking ratchet or they're gonna ratchet. Can I swear here? Yeah, you can swear All right, they're gonna fucking ratchet it up and it's gonna be awesome in last jedi But then it was just more wild Swinging choreography in the sequels was miserably bad. Hey, I'll own it the first time through the throne room fight I was like that was real cool. And then future types where I was like, holy shit that fight was so dumb Yeah Right off the bat, man, dude the disappearing knife. That's You you know, you fucked up if you have to edit weapons out of the fight in order to have your hero win Yeah It's like, ah, we'll just fix it in post. Okay, you know, people were like, oh, so that's not okay But luke's force kick quote unquote is okay in return of the jet. It's like It's like well It actually makes sense. The force kick is a force kick, but You could do that an opponent losing his fucking weapons Oh, she literally though forced delete and it got rid of the weapon literally It could have actually like killed the main protagonist of the movie of the whole trilogy Then what does that happen? We need this cgi that out there. Yeah, didn't they do like one Big long take and then ryan johnson was like, yeah, we'll we'll do the rest and editing so good Let's move on. I'm pretty sure that was his attitude for that sequence right after they trained for ages on it What and then the thing with the with luke's hand Not falling to the ground and being taken with him as a force ghost. Yeah, but it's this it's the smallest things um That like any any person that's like watch these things if you can have like a bunch of fans that are sitting there in a theater and like lean to each other and be like Should have been there, right? Yeah, how does that get missed? Throughout an entire production process for star wars really dislike with fights nowadays and this is something I always noticed but also really Behind the scenes when I was interviewing Nick Gillard. I talked about it with him It's like when you're having a fight and you have a bunch of people attacking one person And you have guys waiting Yeah, every time it's just so unrealistic. It's like We're trying to kill this person like why are we in the in the throne room by this so many examples of this Where they're going to kill her with a strike and then they slow down and then they move up or down to connect with her Weapon because they're like, oh shit. I don't actually Yeah, no, there was a guy that like lunged forwards and then he like lunged back because he was like, oh, shit It's not my time yet. It's like yeah, dude, they're missing their mark all over the place And it's like, oh, well what you're supposed to do and that happens is reset Do it again. I know I know it think of like for So like the john wick movies Like how many times do you think they go through those? How many takes do you think they have all the training they do beforehand? Like it is dedication and those movies cost like, you know 60 million dollars to make You know 80 million dollars to make something like that when you're at a production like this You're putting all that time energy and effort You'd think that it's the same thing I said like when you looked at some of the isoka stuff And I don't know how much was rosario how much was her stunt double because we know they are using stunt doubles as well But it's like you're putting all that time energy and effort you think that you could it would look better Then it ends up looking you think it would look better than say A middle-aged isoka moving like an actual middle-aged woman Ryan how old are you? 35 well 34. I'll be 35 in a couple days. Really? Oh my god. I thought you were younger than me. Okay. I'm 33 Uh mallers 30. Yeah, do you guys remember new grounds? Oh, yeah You remember the the stick figure action like those of the flash anime and made on pivot and stuff yeah Those were literally the best so Chad, I'm gonna show you guys something real quick like in the early 2000s. This was the absolute shit Like and and this guy gets it the way he created it because like nobody's waiting around. It's just a constant like Barrage of fighting I just feel like the choreography for the stick figure fight is so much better than any of the movies that we see today, unfortunately For whatever reason It is pretty wild I totally agree with you about when people are sitting there waiting for each other to fight Now you can certainly set things up where hey It might be detrimental to somebody to hop in right next to somebody depending on what kind of weapon you have Yeah, but the idea that you don't have people constantly with multiple sounds tacking from different sides is insane to me I know um and you can still do a lot of super creative things like that um from a Right choreography standpoint. Yeah, look at that guy. That's crazy Also, let rey have some permanent damage for fuck's sake of the Do a little she could just force heal herself even if she did so why? Yeah. Oh my exactly And it's such a quite on you know, we're gonna be getting way more new force powers as well That's another thing. Disney just I saw reflected in doctor strangers movie where the attitude behind the scenes they were like You always get bored when they see the same spell. So we have to keep coming up with new ones Like it's not even true. We're fine if you see the same spell. In fact, sometimes we're like, oh, I know that one Well, you use it, right? You got to use it in creative ways for You know, like force choke. It's like oh, well, we've done that Like use them all kinds of ways all kinds of surprises and it can still be super impactful when you see it yeah, um like This is something I know you like theory. I don't know if Mahler's seen tales of the jedi um Tales of the jedi I think is I think that's the type of avenue that disney star wars should actually do more of Um, not maybe necessarily the character. I don't want more. Ahsoka tales of the jedi my god I've had enough Ahsoka. You heard it here folks. Ryan wants more Ahsoka tales of the jedi And the martes sisters the only Ahsoka tales of the jedi show I want is where she finally fucking dies Um, like a long time ago and like this Yeah, yeah, I like I like Ahsoka. I like her. I want her to I want her to Get off that freaking galaxy that she's in now get out of that galaxy and like Actually do some crazy shit I'm waiting for She's done some crazy shit. Um, I mean she's Died and come back to life. I mean, yeah. Yeah That's the way she's a god. I'm mortis god She is uh gone in the world between worlds be saved by effectively what was used kind of like time travel by Ezra and now she once again has Either given herself the will to live or come out of the world between worlds or overcome something in her head Whatever the hell that actually was in Ahsoka season two and reborn as Ahsoka gandalf the white I know. Um, it was pretty amazing when she said Yeah, but that's because she's a god now. What about this? She also Uh, I I do not like Ahsoka. Um, I I think that the characters Stuck around for way too long. That's all I feel about her at least. Yeah. Um, she was supposed to die She was supposed to die. Um, one of my favorite lines from Dave Filoni is Uh, it's really no secret that george has always been in the Ahsoka dies camp and I've been in the Ahsoka lives camp Talk about the season five. Uh, let's talk about the season five finale clone wars when Ahsoka leaves the Jedi order yeah, and Ahsoka's purpose to me has always been to be Anakin's padawan Yeah, I kind of don't like the fact that george wanted to have a padawan But anyway, he wanted her boom But her purpose was that and her purpose was one to give Anakin responsibility and Two in my mind to give him a reason to distrust the Jedi because the way things went down between Ahsoka and Anakin in the Jedi order at the end of season five. Yeah I think that bringing her back So that that's how important the character is to me. This is how important the character has now become so say all that happens And then at the same time when revenge of the Sith is happening They never talk about it in a movie. There's never any reference to it but Ahsoka Tano a half trained Jedi comes back and takes half a battalion of clone troopers to Mandalore a planet full of the most dangerous warriors in the galaxy. It's being led by a former sith lord in Darth Maul No one talks about it to branches to this for some reason. I don't know I feel like that'd be important for ending the war But she does that defeats Maul escapes an entire ship full of clones survives Um goes to Padmé's funeral starts the rebellion Bites Vader again is saved from death by time traveling Ezra Bridger basically in the world between worlds To not die. Yeah, which is weird Somehow then still survives It still survives and it's present is present During like the time of the rebellion when Luke Skywalker's out there blowing up death stars Somehow isn't it doesn't actually do anything Doesn't help doesn't ever go to this guy and be like hey by the way, I kind of knew your dad We don't even know what their first conversation really looks like all we know is Luke Skywalker like looks at Ahsoka Luke looks to her as if to tell him what to do In Book of Boba Fett and now you have her medium Mandalorian and Grogu Um talking with Luke Skywalker about training Grogu traveling into other galaxies looking for grand admiral Thrawn Ahsoka has become this super all-important. She's become the most important character in Star Wars to me That's what she's become in an arrow where Luke Skywalker should be at the peak of his peak And that's my that's my problem with the character and how she's been utilized I agree That Luke definitely should be giving him given his spotlight and he's not but at the same time it's like You've created this they've created this character of Ahsoka and so how are they going to kind of separate her from The galaxy so that Luke can shine and so that's why I think Ahsoka season one was really just kind of like a prologue to What's going to come which I hope is going to be Luke? Essentially being the hero of the galaxy again because now she's trapped somewhere else Unless she like waits for the freaking space whales to come around and like hops in them Which is honestly probably what's going to happen as it was just going to be like Hey, my friends are stuck over in that galaxy. Can you guys go over there and give her a ride back hitchhike? So but at this point like I think Luke is literally The one who will save the day and if he doesn't I'm going to be like Where is he? What's he doing? I mean, I think they are I said Three and four years ago that they were going to use Ahsoka and throw on a setup like an heir to the empire style thing yeah If I I agree with you that they should if they're going to I hate the bastardization of Expanding universe stories that are now legend stories But if in this in this world which they do that I 100% do think they should use luke and make him the hero Yeah, the question is how do they do that? Do they do cgi luke? Do they actually recast luke? Which my mind is if you're going to make him that important in this story I think you have to do an actual recast for him instead of the weird cgi stuff they're doing now CGI's ass Absolutely, and I get the distinct impression that the overall moving away from luke That's what we've been seeing across all of disney's content Not been a fan. They're not a what's the story ryan And if you remember it of the behind-the-scenes shit where they had like a picture of luke with a target on it Oh my god. Yeah, the andy gutierrez. Yeah, that was from that was from a while ago I think I have a fake geek tears actually right here um, but yes, that is from uh That that's an old story and I think some of that may have got a little blown out of proportion to be fair Everyone's like proportion. This one's like, oh, well She's a she's a big fan of the empire or something. I don't know so it's stupid But yeah, there's no doubt a lot of people wanted to move away from these traditional archetypal masculine heroes that we had in star wars um You know what 20s that luke isn't even like Super masculine. I mean like you compare them like sylvester Stallone or like Arnold Schwarzenegger. It's like yeah, it's true Hey, but but like for star wars. I mean, yeah Definitely is the stoic sort of like composed Has this shit together But it's I think the character progression that people really fell in love with which for me was like a huge thing because it's like He's like a whiny little bitch in the beginning And like doesn't know who he is or whatever. He's just like this whiny little farm boy Doesn't want to go to pick up power converters. Literally just wants to play And then walks in java's palace and he's an absolute badass And then he turns up with a melted face like several years later I think that um One of the luke skywalker What makes luke skywalker luke is his heart, right? Yeah What separates him is his heart how much he cares or his friends Obviously, that's his weakness But it also turns out to be a strength because how he cares for his father How he's able to pull his father back from what everybody else had considered hopeless Yeah, um, and so I think that's why it's so disappointing to see the luke skywalker. We ended up getting Uh someone who has lost all of that hope So and and we didn't get to see anything I actually think this might be a hot take. I think that there's a way that you could get to a luke skywalker in the last Jedi I wouldn't agree with the path But there's a way you could do it over a series of telling stories It maybe you might understand something that happened But we didn't get any of that like they didn't do anything like that I think that in the day we tried to workshop like it would have to be that he can He sees himself as a great danger and the yes, maybe like snoke Whatever force of the time getting into his head and making him see shit That's not there and he's he's too concerned that like but as you just said like not a path We would even want to do Like at all it's like why would you choose this if they want to do if they want to Like we're stuck in this corner, but like if they want to kind of get out of it. I mean I could see them Doing a thing where they had literally the entire remnants of the empire trying to get luke's dna somehow and clone his ass And turn him into like luke, you know from air the emperor and he was like terrified of this And you know trained from I don't know if they want to bring the emperor back Sure, but they have him trained by snoke or the emperor or whatever like and Like like how what the emperor did with what palpatine did with maul They could do that with little baby luke Yeah, literally literally and and he knows how dangerous it would be So he has to like hide himself so they can't even get like a toenail from him You know to like clone his dna or whatever So it's like they let's say they tried with the hand and it got super close and it failed Or whatever or or like that luke died or something, you know Like that could potentially be a good answer as to like why he had to hide for so long But besides if you were writing it for them right now, maybe that's what they're gonna do theory This thing's been all about cloning, right? We think that's all focused on operation necromancer. It's about snoke It's about palpatine leaning into the sequels What if this is actually I'll ploy to get luke skywalkers Oh luke skywalkers dna and that's what the culmination of the air the empire movie is gonna be all about And that's what scares luke in the hide-in Yeah, I'd have to tell both of you guys that any sense of theory crafting is fucking pointless They always disappoint you every time I know dude show you guys something that uh It's funny that I made Years ago. I don't want to say they copy but let the same time like It is kind of weird. So let me try to find it. Just just just keep riffing. I'm gonna I gotta look for this. Well, yeah, um, it was funny ryan when I think This met you started talking to star star stuff. I was always like pretty sure this is the guy who likes Dave Filoni stuff gonna be awkward I figured we might have like Conflict on because obviously coming in on the sequels. We were like, yeah, it's shit, but All the stuff surrounding it and it's just funny in retrospect. So I still think the three of us are still slightly different On the on the whole thing Yeah, I imagine. Yeah. Yeah. Is this So I made this I wrote this dude. I wrote this in uh five years. You're july 1st 2018 and like a lot of the stuff I put in here that I'm actually doing Oh man Whatever Except there wasn't luke that got elixir. There wasn't uh luke that raised it up It was It was it was him in in rise. Yeah but um Whatever man I mean, it's just like I don't get how you could take this franchise and miss that much So many times I'm running over again What's the thing you might think that it's um, it's possibly one of the worst Disgraces of a franchise ever but you'll have gary telling you it's like no, it's dr Who and you probably have me telling you no, it's mcu But it's it's a big old fight between a lot of them Well, doctor who is been around longer, but it's more niche. I think Um star wars has been around a long time. It is massively popular um Marvel as a brand obviously has been around for a long time, but the mcu is only a 15 year old product So yeah, all just kind of depends on what you're talking about. It's like when I talk about what I think the worst Say star wars disney plus show is The worst that I've seen is bookabob effect. I think that's the like the worst actual product The one that I hate the most and does the most damage to everything in my opinion is obi-wan kenobi So it depends what you mean by the worst, you know, I was gonna say like really I don't think obi-wan is I mean obi-wan has sure like cool moments But what what moment won't be cool? I mean you have fan films that have like Darth Vader with a lightsaber So I mean that's like a cheap kind of trick there What is your theory? What do you think of veda's voice? Uh, I can't really remember it. It feels like something only um, I guess Sort of like autistic fans would really get into but like I was I was not liking it I was like something's wrong and uh, I can't remember which episode it is on the moolah channel But we look at the credits and it says re-speecher is what's doing veda. They've obviously it's a James Earl Jones AI Basically, I think yeah, and if you compare his voice in kenobi to um James Earl Jones actually doing it It's fucking stock as far as I'm concerned Yeah, I click on here. I remember that because it was uh There was some story out there that basically James Earl Jones like had given his permission to some company to digitally replicate his voice Um, it was a little weird Obviously had the moment where you know at the end where Anakin hit half the helmet comes off and it switches to Hayden Which is I mean cool, but what the beat Would brain I will tolerate Your weakness Yeah Like how he nunscape there he's like playing Snape Vader Yeah, yeah, it feels like someone trying to do a veda voice in this case. I guess it's a fucking robot. Let's do The grand inquisitor means nothing Kenobi is all that matters now. Yeah, Kenobi. It's more should be like Kenobi It's it's too almost like quick. He's too fast with it. It's I mean the robot fucked up Faster more intense. That's what the robot got told. Well, you know what after more intense since I edited it and it took ages You could probably just back out the sequence I made on the About many what we did the links in chat. It's um one hour 06 31 I do like a side-by-side And uh, yeah, it's it's it's just on top of everything. Well, this is The faintness of it Yes, uh one hour. This was the only thing we had to talk about and that it wouldn't be that big of a deal But the void of humanity. What should I do about it? Have you heard of Lucas same problem back back home? I've accepted the truth that you were once Anakin's every one in the manover Sorry, did you say this is word? It was yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The veda one comes after this Can't believe he's gone You will find balance as well. Get back up. I didn't hear you give any ideas always get back up Yes, and it's it. Yes. Yeah, it's like you're like skinwalk of veda You are free to use any methods necessary But I want them alive No disintegrations Bring him to me. You don't know the power of the dark side I must obey my master You are of no further use He will join us or die master Yeah, he like carries everything more I love james ill jones is a doctor later. It's one of the coolest fucking voices in the history of cinema Best dude, and you're in lockdown facility. Indeed. You are paul. Yeah, exactly as I thought just too quick Needs to be more dramatic And at least you can blame like this stuff on whatever ai or whatever they're using for it To me. I feel like it's a problem throughout the entire Mando verse Which for the Mandalorians you got the excuse because they're supposed to feel like they're in a cult because they are But I feel like characters like characters like Ahsoka Um, I feel like talk the same way almost every inner Was every interaction we had in the Ahsoka series felt like they were talking like this Without any emotion. Yeah. Well, cuz yeah, Brian. They're they're humans though That's what I'm saying like this has the excuse of being ai. I think it's a problem in star wars right now Awful as the emperor has foreseen fail me And you will not live to regret it. Oh, you did a little better job there. I still hate it I will bring him in myself when you get it does sound like re-speecher. Hey What is like and this thing I guess it would be I don't know it'll get good Good or uh, it'll be better at some point, right? Like it'll they'll probably keep fixing it keep I just I don't know man Some ways I'm just like, okay, just make make something make something awesome Make something new if you can't like if you're gonna give me like plastic, you know, skin walkery people Rather not it always disturbs me and puts me off and if I'm not enjoying the story as is It really gives a sense of like a fake puppet that they're trying to entertain me with Brian, do you want to tackle this comment here? Because this is something I do it, right? Steven I think I think we are the biggest fans that you can get and I think you know These are the kind of conversations that disney would pay Perhaps even you know millions for to have pure fans like this really break down a lot of the nitty gritties Because it's not really coming from a place of shitting. It's coming from a place of love that we want We want it to be like it what it was when george had it dude. I cannot tell you how excited I was October 30th 2012 when I found out that disney was buying star wars Yeah, me too Because to me so for people that don't know I I'm a big stars expanding universe fan now currently known as legends and I got into star wars really during the prequels So I watched the original trilogy you know vhs of my dad had probably when I was like, you know five six seven whatever But when phantom menace came out I like really dove in and the books that I read along with You know in that time were the Jedi apprentice books with obi-wan kanobi and kwaigon and their journey together and from that point on I read everything I get my hands on then I got into all the air to the empire stuff the timothy zhan trilogy I get the x-wing series and I dove in headfirst video games everything and I loved it So for me when disney bought stars in 2012 I was like cheering I was so happy because I'm like I knew george was probably not going to make the movies But that might mean I am finally going to get to see some of the stories some of the characters some of the things that have been building up In this world, you know 150 novels thousands of comic books all this stuff. I thought I was going to get to see that play out and Slowly I realized that wasn't going to happen tried to give force awakens a chance even though I felt like This is just a bastardized version of jason solo and they gave him the name ben. How dare they? Okay, but I'll give it a try. This isn't I thought this might be jana or solo when she got jana solo when she got cast But that turned out not to be the case and to me force awakens was an empty husk It was a house of cards. It was built on nothing But like they disrespected the character of han solo what they did to him was arguably worse than what they did to Luke to be honest with him. I don't feel like anybody called it out at the time I hated force awakens and from that point on I was really turned off to what disney was doing Even now with the expectation that I'm going to hate pretty much anything they do I try to do my best to give like my legit honest opinion Because that's all I feel like we can do I'm going to make somebody toxic I think the best thing for star wars the best thing for a fandom is if people are actually honest Regardless of whatever your opinion is whether you love something or you hate it Well, you have no opinion or whether a little of both whether you appreciate something because of the work That went into the craftsmanship or the screws, uh, but maybe it didn't like the overall product I think the most important thing is being honest Not just uh, so fans can talk about it without any shame But also so the creatives can hear what you are saying and maybe make changes to that So I am still a massive star wars fan. I hate virtually everything disney star wars related and I don't think it's going to change But I'm still gonna give my opinions on it I absolutely agree and I think you know a lot of people that have issues with opinions that aren't like theirs Kind of just got to be a little more realistic and open-minded about things that hey not everyone's going to agree with you and look at the end of the day If you know, I always like to comment when it comes to money It's like oh you just want to do hate for hate for clicks or whatever. It's like if I really loved Everything they were doing believe me that would bring in so much more clicks and so much more money because The entire fandom would also love everything they're doing and it's like There are so many reasons why I choose my words carefully when it comes to talking about What they're doing these days, but at the same time it's like I have to be real about everything And it all stems from love it all stems from you know that feeling that we had when we were kids With star wars that made us really fall in love with this whole franchise And that's why we're so passionate about it and people are just like oh you hate it Well, it's like no We actually love it and we just wanted to go back to what it once was because we're having this company that came in to Just milk the shit out of it and they don't understand anything that goes into These characters or what went into them or where their character trajectory needs to go or Their path or anything and they just say stupid claims Like there's no source material or whatever else they want to come up with And then they're focusing on all these other characters that they just interject and create And the way that they bolster them is by killing off the ones that we love It's particularly strange as a sentiment to me because You know the goal and Brian's already made it clear I really like talking to people who are just like this is what I got from it. This is what I think and feel That's it. There's no ring attached from what I can guess Even though we're all very aware of how the audience are going to take certain takes That's why we try and couch them in an old way that's full of our arguments to try and help them understand but this doesn't work because Game of Thrones happened I don't know if how familiar you are theory with how that happened But that's another franchise that went down fucking flames Game of Thrones. Oh my dude. I was a huge fan and then the last season I was like Yeah, so I'm Among many people known as just one of the big old haters at Game of Thrones as well Uh, that how's the dragons announced and I'm asked on you can see all the streams that would have come out I was like, it's gonna be it. I don't care. It's fine. What uh killed my interest in Game of Thrones is done They comes and Gary's like you mind watching it so that you can talk to me about it on a show and I was like Yeah, okay. Yeah, I guess so I watch episode one. I'm like, I don't know It's not like terrible and you can go see that stream where I'm begrudgingly admitting these things I like and it is actors. I think they're doing good jobs. It's nice to see a reset And I'm getting that little spark of like I I really like all the characters and the families and whatever Fast forward to all episodes done that stream that me and Gary were on with a few of the guests and stuff It's practically a hype stream We were just like I don't fucking wait for the next episode. Can't wait to see what's gonna happen Oh, do you think it's gonna be this? And by the end now season two when the trailers drop in and like all the the hype for that It's getting high and it's like how could it possibly be that me and Gary were like, you know, like almost hate merchants Why didn't we run that direction? Why did we turn on it? And then You know, I'm not gonna say this applies as much to you guys, but certainly to me I went into Star Wars looking to specifically be hateful of it. What the hell happened with andor? What that was that wasn't even difficult for me I could have hated on andor so to speak plenty of people didn't like it plenty people didn't even watch it But it'd been easy, but um, no, I we made a full like eight hour episode talking about what we thought worked about it Dude, how's the dragon? I I'm totally with you. I I used to get called a hater by my buddy. I watched Game of Thrones with because in season six I felt like season six was so like hit or miss. I was talking like so was weird Like I don't like this like I was like point out things. He's like, oh, whatever You're just you you're just trying to hate blah blah blah and then seven happened. It was worse and then eight was a disaster Um, I thought House of Dragon was going to be garbage. So all these people out some commentary from behind the scenes I personally said I thought it was going to be trash. Uh, I didn't like some of the things they decided to do casting wise And I had as about as poor opinion as I possibly could And I could not have been happier to be completely and totally wrong Yeah, because now I have another show that I've rewatched probably five times since it came out I'm anxiously awaiting whenever they drop the season two trailer and I can't wait to do like watch alongs and stuff for Season two. Fuck yeah, dude. We're all gonna have our biases and like what we expect to happen when we go into things But I think that 95 of the people out there Are going to be open enough to if they changed their mind admit that like that was not what I was expecting I was wrong about that thing and I actually like it So you guys are excited for and or two I'm not particularly excited for and or two I'm anxious about it because I don't know what it's gonna end up as considering the first season was not well liked Like or at least liked enough that they would allow him to just do the season two that fits season one Maybe it'll get chewed up and left behind. Maybe they won't even fucking I don't even know what's going on with and or season two, but I hope it'll be good Obviously, the reason I drink it up is just that I didn't treat and all the same way I treat Ahsoka or Kenobi or Boba Fett. I don't even treat those shows the same way Ahsoka is better than Boba Fett and Kenobi I think I assume everyone here agrees I I think so too but I also Don't think it's very good I think that you just got as a prologue to what you think is like coming next I would kind of agree with that because typically in prologues There's not very much character arc or development or like important things And over eight episodes, we didn't have much of that Um to me Ahsoka and like watching along each and every week. It felt very much like Force awakens in terms of people seeing things and like theories and like trying to find explanations of what happened Yeah, and we went from talking about in episode three or four You know Balan and Shin the man. These are such interesting characters. I really like what they're building But now at the end once you get the full arc you're like They are nothing They're not characters when we literally we never found out any more about them than we knew in the first couple episodes We needed more we needed more like episodes Six five five five five five and six was like we found out some more about balan. I'm like a Cool shit. Give me some more info on these guys and then nothing Literally nothing and it's like where balan ends. It's like all right Uh Now we gotta wait years Couldn't you give us a little more? Maybe he walks into that that glimmering mountain like It's it's really just like uh, it's a mystery box, dude He could have had like in that final episode They could have had like an extra few minutes with him And he's like walking and he like he let's say he sees the freaking glimmering mountain And then at the very freaking end He's at the the base of it Maybe climbs all these stairs. We switched to another scene with a soca and I don't know the hugging Ezra or something and then we switched we switched back to balan. He's like at the top He goes in and it's like this Freaking crazy old-ass catacomb He just walks in with beautiful architecture and like the music is building and we get let's say The camera angle of him walking through the door And then there's a chair and it pans around the chair and then like some dude or a hand like moves Or something and it just ends like an old an old like withered hand something man, or like or like I've been waiting for you. I don't know something stupid something like Like balan skull Yeah Yeah, it's something man You're like even like just the hand moving or or whatever or his expression as he sees someone sitting in there And then it just ends like fuck that would have been great Man, you know, but watching that finale and I think you can see it in our reaction to it It's like halfway through. I have this realization of like Fuck is balan I've seen anything from balan's whole time. What the hell's going on? It's like she pops up in the The scavengers or whatever the skies are called Uh that randomly decide to follow or not follow people at different points in time. Yeah, um yeah, like Sabine I have so many problems with the isoka series. Sabine is a character. I didn't like her in rebels Um, so I was not a big fan of her in rebels. So that you know, I wasn't expecting to go and really like her that much I feel like She didn't really face any repercussions for Anything like she never actually had to answer to ezra about what she did Anything that they do in isoka that could possibly be compelling. They never address like It would have been interesting to see sabine be forced to admit to ezra that I really fucked up And I should have destroyed this but I wanted to see you because we have this platonic relationship Uh, I really wanted to get here and see you So I led I like gran admiral thron get what he needs to get back to the galaxy But here I am and then to see ezra dealing with the fallout from that realizing that I spent 10 years Like of my life because I didn't want to get back to galaxy and you gave that up But at the same time realizing that you gave that up to see me and how important that would be to him personally Yeah, that's actually some good character shit that we could see some repercussions for her Some feelings of actual guilt for her having to come face to face with what she did But instead we get her on the wing of the starship and isoka, you know coming down like the cheshire cat Uh, basically forgiven her for everything come on dude I was I know that was wild as shit, especially as someone who hasn't seen The majority of the content that would make that interesting, right? We had someone on our panel that would tell us like Oh, just the key points of where these characters were and why they move to where they are now just so we could follow it and we were like Ezra's been here for like 10 years and it's like Yeah, and it just feels like I feel like we don't see that on him at all other than the fact that he's aged up I was like this doesn't Okay, 10 years on this planet. No human contact outside of people trying to kill him Well, you know what was weird is like Thrawn knows he's there the whole time, but he's just And knows which direction he's in because he just sends Sabine in in that direction and she finds him in like two seconds in like a minute. They go to another galaxy And they find exactly where they need to be within minutes like No trouble no anything nothing, but Ron and that's what I'm saying like There is so much missing from Ahsoka that that needs an explanation That needs an explanation. Why and I think you could plausibly come up with one If you like are And halfway decent writer at all you can come up with a reason for why Thrawn and Ezra are separated And why he didn't kill him Like there's stuff there that you could do Whether it's because they were working together at one point and then they had a split because of something Thrawn What to do maybe they were actually like working together and they were aligned and they became friends over that time Like because of the situation they were in. Yeah Um or you you have to come up with something to excuse why Thrawn doesn't kill Ezra take care of that because why Ron's own words. Well, this fake Thrawn's potbelly Thrawn this Thrawn who says never underestimated Jedi He says that like three times yet. He continuously underestimates Jedi throughout the entire series Um, including the one that he left alive on the planet for 10 years 10 years now. We're gonna come back and bite him in the ass like I don't I don't get that and I unless he's not real That's that's why I came up with that theory. I'm like, well, what if he's just not real? What if it's like something that the witches did to just distract Sabine so that he can finish his loading? You know, oh, yeah, yeah Going in the MCU back when phase four was happening and everything was falling apart You can see it on some streams me and Gary were like, what if what if the what if Mephisto is behind all this? He's making everyone insane Like maybe that can Answer this. Maybe it's the answer is the evil dark wizard man is just forcing everyone to act out a fucking character And you almost wish for that kind of thing to happen Well, it just doesn't make any sense. Like how could she be there though? Okay, so I feel like we all agree on literally everything um What Well, I want to I want to talk a little about Dave about Dave. All right, so I was gonna after this but I ended up to Let's say they gave you the keys. What would you do? Me well, let's talk about Dave right now. Okay. Well, so With all of this I feel like this is what it was weird to me I feel like you're a massive Dave Filoni fan This is my impression of you from like watching some of your content and stuff like this I felt like you're a massive Dave Filoni fan Like you didn't think Ahsoka was like the best thing in the world But you thought it was good star wars and then it felt like star wars And then when I heard uh when I heard you're in Mahler's conversation and you described Dave Filoni's content as like a half eaten sandwich that someone threw in the dirt that's rotting But you happen to be starving so you ate it And And that was like surprised to me because I didn't think that That's how you would have described what Dave Filoni's putting out But is is that how you feel about Ahsoka as a whole? No, that's not how I feel about Ahsoka as a whole But I would say the last two episodes were just very disney and very safe and very boring But I'd say the first six episodes for me Okay, so We I see things George Lucas star wars Pinnacle epitome you can't beat it because that's what that's created the whole thing Then under that you got You know who you have Who do you have who all right you sorry? Yeah, you're saying individual creators. I thought you meant you were like ordering well The thing about this question is like are you talking about who do we know who likes star wars and is talented? Or are you saying like who do we know that like that likes star wars as much as dave is as as uh respectful to george lucas and the legacy as dave because that's Really a major thing here is that no one is as respectful Like nobody who gets hired for star wars is as respectful to george lucas I think not kathy Not ryan not jj not all these dudes who just basically You know suck on his balls, but at the same time just like destroy everything he's created So I I think that Dave talks about that a lot, but at the same time we just talked about a character in Ahsoka that Went on this massive arc that george did not want her to go on Like exclusively and this has now become felonies pet project that he will not let go of that He will not let die that he continues to make the most important character in his star wars universe Now that george isn't calling the shot. So to me I I understand what you're saying um, and I think felonie does a very good job of You know talking about how much he likes george and honoring that stuff, but some of the stuff I see Like the Ahsoka stuff doesn't necessarily show that um To me and that's one of the now I I've had problems with Dave for a long time I had a problem with clone wars because when clone wars was coming out Um, it really we had a very aligned I'm sure you'd know this we had a very aligned timeline for the clone wars Like week by week through the clone wars You could you knew like who was wearing on what different planets based on comics and uh, you know based on comic books And based on novels and shit like this right And and of course, you know the The Tartakovsky clone wars series specifically that writing a rhizas or brevetches writing a wrench of the set ass freaking I love that. It's amazing. It's perfect and it fits with the movie. Yeah, um, and then tcw comes along And there starts to become a lot of differences and george was certainly part of that. I'm not gonna say it wasn't um like Ahsoka, but even other things like Um, this was the first thing that Dave Filoni got in a fight with e-fans over was uh, admiral you lauren um Admiral you lauren he saw a picture of you lauren on the death star And it was like oh that guy's got a white uh, jackie must be a grand admiral. Let's make him an admiral in clone wars But he wasn't he was a colonel So they had to like write in a retcon for him to like retire and like going to the imperial security bureau or something like something really dumb Yeah, but he got called out at a in like 2009 or something got called out at like a convention and got like butt hurt about it the e-fans But then from that point on it seemed like just a lot of things And I am in the minority clone wars fans are in a minority section of star wars fans in general Yeah, but e-u fans are an even more minority. So I understand that But for me, I hated a lot of things they did with say Dathomir and the night sisters the changes they made like that. I Know you love maul I hated bringing them all back Um, you hated bringing them back. Hey, I did Oh, hey, it's obviously I don't even know this my namesake is based on my love of dathomall And when I found out he was coming back to life from just phantom menace Even I think when I was like a kid I was like fuck He got chopped in half like yeah, he's just thrown down a space hole Oh, don't get me wrong when I heard that he was coming back. I was like Okay, uh And then he came back as a spider and I was just really confused Yeah That was when I what that was when I stopped watching clone wars. Um Like even though I really didn't like it. I hated what they did to grievous I felt like they nerf grievous I I hated the fact that they made obi-wan and anakin fight dooku every other saturday Even though we know that they didn't see each other after genosis until right there above coruscant We know that didn't happen. And so when you see that stuff happen I feel like it takes away From the george lucas moments that we got in and of course george is involved in clone wars Not saying he's not but it takes away those moments That we see in the movies and I hate that stuff It's one of the reasons I hated what they did with obi-wan and in the dark vader series Because they did not meet in between the movies. Hell. No, they didn't know I had the same criticisms for clone wars that I do for things like obi-wan kenobi Do you know how much the last episode of kenobi like rips a bunch of payoffs from revenge of the sith and just repeats them Like to re to rebind back into the into the story. It's absolutely fucking blatant ridiculous. Which ones It's the same thing. He leaves him like obi-wan beats him. Yeah, and instead of finishing the job He leaves him He ends up in a desert which made more sense way more sense in revenge of the sith than it does in that show They they make it explicit in the show that he's like I don't I don't I don't remember I'll kill you because you're like you're anakin He's like not anakin definitely not anima monster as far as you're concerned killing people Make your choice obi-wan that he's like nah and walks off and it's like And also in the novelization for revenge of the sith they don't make it super clear in the movie But in the novelization for revenge of the sith obi-wan knows palpatine is like right there Like he knows cedius is coming and there's not even really much Like opportunity for him to sit there and think about it and he just scoops up the lightsaber You gotta get out of there. Well, there's also just it's fucking uh, I the way I see it as well Emotionally draining and absolutely pitiful to see Like it takes a lot of spirit to go to someone who's had their limbs chopped off and is burnt to a crisp to execute them It's fucking horrible to look at him, you know, I mean and I think he's just filled with all kinds of emotions of that But I can buy that way more and they cut it out where where you can see it in the film But they muted it where he says help me It's like how are you gonna go and let me help you? We should kill you No, it's not gonna happen and then he sees the ship flying the shuttle flying overhead He's got to get out of there I mean it wrote it in the book and stuff and you know the book is Canon because you know, george did read over it a lot But at the end of the day like what is most canon of course is the first six films and then the clone wars And then if you want to bring the books in there, yeah Because he did read them and he did have to approve a lot of the stuff going in there, but for sure. Yeah And that was what when tcw came so before tcw was a thing That and also, I don't know if you know this. I've never been able to find a single instance of george lucas himself uttering the words canon Never unless you're referencing like a kind of world war or world war one battle or something. I don't know, uh, but um He always referred to his different things. He would say the different pillars of star wars or or things like that are my vision versus my company's vision things like that um but When it came to lucas film they had george's movies Then you know novels comics things like that video game like canon I'm not canon, but like mainline video game stories that you were supposed to do like the right ending um Then below that I know you've been covering some like infinities and stuff like that. Yeah alternate endings like maybe dark side Cotor playthrough things like that. There were alternate endings. Those were like the Smallest or the worst level of canon possible then tcw came in and they needed to create a new canon Because it didn't fit with the movies and it didn't fit with the books. So they threw it right there in between And uh, I even like to look at the the force unleashed dark side endings That's like potentially something that could have and Fuck dude, like taking out the force unleashed for me was just such a big No, what I found out that they done that I was like, why Well, suddenly she was so popular. It was so cool. It's a cool storyline. Vader has some secret ass apprentice Who's like insanely powerful And you're gonna just nerf that Okay, fine. I guess it's not yeah for the record. I don't think force unleashed is perfect in any way shape or form But it's I mean compare it, you know, that's the thing. Nothing's perfect. Nothing like the prequels aren't perfect The originals aren't perfect, but At the end of the day, it's like them being imperfect is perfect because it's like, oh, yeah, okay, you know recognize all this All the clunky dialogue or whatever else happened in the originals that people don't like you can rip apart everything but I would say the most The things you can rip apart the most and when it comes to the sequel trilogy why there's so much discourse is not because Well, there are bad films in my opinion, but it's not because they're like It's not because they're subjectively bad films It's because they're literally the third installment in a nine film saga of films where you had six Before that made by one guy who created the whole thing and then the last three were like Fish mash a completely different company which had a different vision if you could even Call it that which is being generous But you had like different in different people writing each episode Well, the people said I've never seen a trilogy hate itself so much, right? No equal despise the previous film It's weird. It is weird. You just don't see that No, you don't see that like nine literally just shat on eight the whole time and How sequel fans don't really want to acknowledge that to me is just like well You gotta be delusional or something because it just doesn't make any sense I have have you how many people do you tend to come across that are a fan of seven eight and nine? Most of time I see people who are fans of eight and then sometimes seven really have a nine People who love eight don't love nine when I've noticed. Yeah. Yeah I'm one of them, but they'll but but they'll never Acknowledge the fact that nine spent all all that time kind of destroying eight and dismantling it They'll just be like, oh, it wasn't it wasn't for me nine is still appreciate Nine is basically its own trilogy But it's like they had to do an entire trilogy work of worth of work in that movie Because said nothing to go with after last Jedi I mean as you guys even though it's a fucking horrible movie or a bad But like it's almost funny when you start up the po fin re relationship They are speed running it at the beginning of that film They're like look at these guys. Oh, look at their chemistry. Oh, they've been through so much. Oh, yeah Look at it. It's like you're lying to me Like these guys barely know each other at all like it legit is If you would have just started from with nine and like nothing in between happened You it would be you'd probably make just about as much sense Because they have to set up and pay off the villain in that movie with palpatine Right, like that gets created within the first couple minutes of Rise of Skywalker And then that is your payoff villain like your entire arc for the thing is him That was that was such a like fucking Thanos endgame thing of like where did your failed attempts at making villains bring you back to palpatine? Like Back to me Yeah, I know okay, so going forwards. What is there anything they can do to actually Bring a lot of the old star wars fans back. What would they need to do one question? I was I was just curious because I'm trying to find something that we definitely stand on different areas on And I'm sure if Ryan's with me on this one, but I won't Dave out That's my opinion, right? Okay, I I want we did it We found something I want I want every so if you're asking me what I would do to fix star wars or whatever You clean house completely a lucas foam You have to start over fresh like you need to turn over a new leaf and that's everybody Ahsoka is Dave's baby. I don't think there's any other writer on it It's him And I although I didn't think it was as like Dumb and stupid as Boba Fett It was a really I thought a really incredibly poorly written story I thought it was poorly directed. I thought it was poorly acted. I thought it was so it was bad. Um And everything else I've seen him involved with Mando season one to me is the best Overall thing we've gotten Disney star wars like Disney plus star wars wise And to me that story is probably about a four and a half out of ten Um, damn Well, there you go. I mean Ryan can disagree because I think Andal is the best thing they've made I have loads of issues with Mando season one I so Here's what I think about andor. I think andor is The most like technically proficient thing they've done. It's the like the most well written But I'm not interested in it. I'm not interested in the story if that makes sense So that's how I feel about it. I do think that Tony Gilroy turned out like a great product It's not a story that I'm interested in Um, which I wasn't enjoying it very much But if you like maybe take an isolated thing and give it a like a number out of ten and or would probably be Seven out of ten. Just like grading wise. It's just not something I'm interested in. You'd rate and or over Mando season one Like in terms of just a show in and of itself Yeah, yeah, this is what I mean theory. I'm like once again, you proved if you'll excuse me If ever you want to you know, in depth dive into even badness is the one On between what I think is acceptable and sometimes I'm interested in it was Mando season one for me Yeah, if that makes sense. That was fresh. It was new goddess. Oh my god, baby Yoda Oh, okay, holy crap, you know, baby Yoda. I could I could have fucking I wish that dude We got thrown in a dumpster somewhere But For real What I What I was hoping to get out of Mandalorian when it was first announced and everything was a story about a bounty hunter going basically town to town or planet to planet doing jobs kind of the dark underworld side of things and separate From these galactic level events And that to me is what I think if you're going to tell stories within This era of star wars where you're crammed in with all these events that have happened and you can't do anything without screwing up continuity Have to stop trying to make everybody run into everybody else If you're going to tell stories in that era make them not with focused on cameos Make it focused on small character driven narratives about people that are living within the star wars galaxy things like Andor But I I just wasn't invested in that specific story. They decided to tell but mando I think you have episode one two three seven and eight They're like a solid You have a solid story there Or five and six are stupid. I know this episode. You can throw them away. They're dumb I can't remember what happened in four five and six Four is I love Gina corona But four is the one where he meets car dune and the stupid villager thing Where he almost lets this one woman that he met for like two seconds Take off his helmet. Even though it's the entire life. Right. It was a cw show. Yeah, um Five was the prison break episode. I think and then okay six. Uh, I forget what six is but I don't remember but I was just gonna say seven and eight I have huge problems with them off. Gideon's a fucking readout throughout the whole episode I have problems with them But what I'm saying is that's like the story of mandalorian like that's like an hour and a half Movie that they turned into eight episodes. Yeah, they did but Don't even get me on mando three because that no, yeah, that's completely disastrous But that's the thing bro. It's like I like Is dave being held back constantly by cathleen is john being held back like he wants to do this and this roboba And she just keeps putting her fingers in there or is this actually them like Completely fucking up. Well, this is why I said to you that I want clean house Because I don't take any risks get rid of the rot wherever it exists get it out But you could be right. Yeah, but the the reality is Does that mean that we just have to keep tolerating it until k.k leaves and then we can finally have felonian favo beef They can I My assumption is a soaker is the way that feloni wanted to be I think that'd be genuine I don't think he's gonna tell us his show because like uh, there are industry stories all the time And the mcu is Countlessly filled with these where they bring in artists make the thing and then they leave and swear off working for them ever again You're like, whoa, why he's like I had no control. I am making shit for them Like oh, okay And I just don't get that impression from feloni or favro though with favro I've got my own theories on that because I think we spoke last time theory about how Favro did complain quite publicly and artistically in chef for example about the state of marvel and how he left You know, I'm man one. I'm man two. He's gonna be the biggest creature and he's like i'm out Oh, that's weird and comes back for the fucking lion king And makes like one of the worst live-action adaptations of one of the most beloved animated films of all times like what the hell happened, bro Then he gets brought in for star wars, which I was like, okay You know, yeah, sure. Okay, and then I saw what he made and I was like, no I think that I think that we in general I will defend Kathleen kennedy for a moment here. I know you thought I was toxic I'm gonna send a kathleen kennedy three bedroom. I think that We are way too quick to jump and assume that oh, we don't like something that must mean kathleen kennedy interfered with it We like this thing that must mean she never had her hands on it I don't think she's involved that closely in like that way. I think she hires people to do things um Now I certainly think she'll get upset at things or whatever when controversies arise But I think she hires people that she wants for the projects And I think she hired john and she promoted dav feloni like kathleen kennedy did that dav feloni has only got promotions Uh at lucas film since she's been there um, and I personally think that it's because They're fine with her leading. You know what I mean? We talked about all those power civil war rumors that ended up being like such garbage over the years Is ryan here? Is he still here? I'm right here. What happened to him? I'm right here Well, I just think like it's to me it ends up being like a cop out because We're theorizing Well, you know dav feloni did this thing I like so it must mean kathy wasn't involved. Yeah. No, I know what you mean I see that all the time. It's like people say it on twitter and they're like, oh, so you like something So it was kathy not involved with that one. I'm like So yeah comment really have this happen all the time say about it Why brought up ridley scott? It's like did ridley scott miss with prometheus or is he just Not very not as good as he used to be and it's like, I don't know Don't have to say Um, but for me, I think to move forward I think you need to clean house now personally I would do something that probably a lot of people wouldn't do I would erase every single disney thing that's been made I don't care if you like it. I don't care if you love it I don't care if you cried when canan died in rebels. I'm erasing it from existence Everything that's come out disney wise every book every piece of content and you start from where you were before Yeah, before the I I know the stories that I would like to tell I need to be a continuation from where we were in the eu also Weaving in a lot of george's sequel ideas that he was talking about george's bit because george's had like Several different He's had so many right. Um, he was on record When force awakens came out. He's like, uh, you know the sequels about the grandchildren That's all in the books and the novels and everything. He said that he's talked about his idea for the wills We've heard the darth mal clone Darth talon type like there's a lot ideas out there And I think you leave all those together and make that and continue to tell that while exploring all aspects of star wars He wasn't supposed to be a clone Well, he was when someone told george that Darth talon lived 150 years after darth mal did and he's like, well, he could be a descendant or a clone or something Oh, okay. Okay. So when is rey coming to this story? Uh, never She can she could be a fart in the wind. Can we make like some fucking gungan who a hobo gungan who's desperately like street dancing and he's just called rey Do you remember the when there was like leaks out there for the obi-wan kanobi series that a bearded jar jar On the street They gave him like the worst ending in the which book was that like was a chuck windings book or something where he's like a aftermath Yeah, yeah gesture on the street But if you're asking me what I think is what they should do realistically, um If I were right now sitting there in their position as it is without these Fancy pine the sky dreams of we get to fire whoever we want what they should do is Move forward and move away back There's so much time that you have to tell stories. There's so much freedom. You have to tell stories within those time frames Um, you can do so much stuff and I think that that's where people I think a lot of people Would be okay with that doesn't mean we're not hurt from what happened before doesn't mean We're not still salty about the things that happen But as you see people continue to come back to stars and give things chances even when they think it might be bad You got to move forward. You got to move way back and for the stories like I said that are in The prequel to rise of the empire just a little bit after the fall of the empire rising in republic in those eras You have to stop trying to link Everybody whose stories you have already fucked up like into it. You have to stop doing that Let them rest you kill them. Let them be and tell other stories in that universe You know george's like idea for underworld Um, it was going to be a lot of kind of like disconnected stories But all set, you know in in this kind of underworld setting of course on that's what they need to focus on They're not good at keeping things straight. They're just not Dave Filoni can't even keep his own continuity straight so I think that That's what they should do if I were to like look at stars realistically That's what I would tell them to do over public stuff. Please. Let's get jedi mandalorian wars now I think they're gonna screw it up. I think they'll screw that up to anything they take if they touch revan They'll screw them up But that's the way that I think they should move forward for star wars Yeah, you know what? I get behind that completely. I but it's also my concern is like Even if they get rid of everybody There's still someone pulling the strings of like who needs to be filling in all of the new roles So it's like they're probably just going to get in the same kind of person. Well, I think it's all I don't know if ryan would agree But you think filoni's bad enough that you'd rather take a dice roll and a random creative in the world For me. Yes. Um, I think I'm probably in the minority in that I used to get a lot of hate when I talk bad about Dave Filoni. I don't get as much anymore Um, but for me because I really dislike his I dislike his storytelling I dislike almost all the projects he's done. So for me, no I would not like filoni. I still think he's the only thing we got and I think he's he's Sometimes he goes pretty outlandish for those ideas, but at the same time it's That's what he's doing. He's still leading us in a better direction than anybody else can Except for and I say this, you know Kind of worrisome, but I do think That sam witt were would potentially be better than Dave Filoni and john fabro combined. I think so I mean, I like salmon. He's a big. He's a massive star wars fan. He knows a lot. I have no idea in terms of um Production experience what he has like I know he's obviously Super talented voice actors done a lot of live action acting as well. I don't know What his experience and that I I don't know either but to be honest I don't think you really need all that much experience when it comes to If you're if you're at the level sam's at, um All you got to do is write good stories the role we need him on is just You know, he can see the thing they make and be like yes consultant. Yeah, essentially just director of Go run a maybe of stalls Exactly like what george did for the the original trilogy for five and six like he wasn't director, but he was literally Standing around corralling everyone to make sure that they do it the way it's supposed to be done His story I think sam witt were would be the perfect person for that and he did that a little bit with solo at the end If you listen to that that bit he talked about where they came to him and they're like, hey, what's the deal with you know Maul and the lightsabers that he because they were going to give him his regular lightsaber And it's like well that wouldn't have it during this time period No, it doesn't make any sense and and that's also the problem with a lot of these guys Coming into writing or direct star wars. It's like They don't know this shit like you can't just get a regular person that would maybe make Any movie in hollywood to come in and direct star wars. It just doesn't work It's got to be a Dave felony a john fevro or a sam witt were or a you know You want to get tony gilroy? Sure, but make sure you got sam or and dave in the background Who are like hopping on calls with george lucas who doesn't really give a shit anymore? I don't think but You know, you never know Well, that's the thing though I don't get the impression that Dave felony respects canon slash continuity seems to play with it constantly doesn't really care and To be fair. I love george Um, he he messed with his own stuff a lot. He was constantly tweaking things changing things To me, I even though I don't maybe like some of the times he did that That's his baby and it's his right to do it. Yeah, man. I don't have that same feeling when dave does it Looks like the uh, you know, I mean the ending to did you ever watch my interview with nick gillard Did you ever see the the part at the end where he's talking about how there was an alternate? demise to anakin with anakin and obi one and and Hayden and you and even went to george and they were like, please do this This would have been so much better and george's like no So Did you see that part? I I remember I don't know if I've seen it from is behind the scene stuff, right? No, it was my interview interview with him like nobody. Oh your thing you did with him. Yeah, nobody knows this it's out trying to find the clip because he explains it so much better, but um, essentially there was like A couple you guys keep talking. I'm gonna find it. Okay. Yeah, um, yeah, like I feel like felonius very cavalier with it and One of the things that they did when they decided to get rid of the expanded universe They made a statement and they made a promise to people going forward that everything that we do is going to be in line That everything we publish book wise combo. Everything's going to be in line. And so then we get anisoka novel and then The parts that we get say in like tales of the jedi or her lightsaber color and like things like this are Off when dav does the continuation of the story Not that they needed to be you could have fit it in there He didn't want to and is are many people really going to care about that? I guess not the people that read the novel and thought that that was going to be probably do same thing with kanan and uh kanan's as well, uh, not kanan, but uh Whatever he was the jedi his escape from order 66 same thing. They decided wreck on that in bad batch Yeah, they did wreck on a lot of that. Hey Yeah, and and and i'm speaking of i'm speaking to someone that is not attached to that stuff Right, but it i don't i don't really care about the asoka novel. I don't really care about Rebels all that much or kanan as a character But sticking in continuity is important to me when it's something that You're not being it's out of convenience. Say the dark saber. That's an important one, right? When you establish the dark saber you introduce the dark saber you have sabine and all the stuff that she does with the dark saber and then For no other reason other than you can't figure out a way to write it better You decide to change the rules of the dark saber suddenly that oh, well You need to beat somebody in a battle to become the leader of mandolin Like that was wild to me That they actually went ahead and like established that in mandalorian Yeah, that was just laziness and no care about what came before Mahler you need to see I miss these days when people actually gave a shit. I know right Dude, I was just thinking about this like how if we did get the keys and we got to wreck on it And then we made a new sequel trilogy. It's like we've lost Harry fisher, of course And then it's like Harrison Ford is really unlikely he would want to Do that like if if we somehow this amazing insane thing happened And I was thinking like in it's so fucked up that you've got Ewan McGregor who's a billion percent on board You've got Hayden christiansen. That's a billion percent on board and as far as I can tell disney don't really care They're right there. They're ready to go. They could make Who knows how much star wars god debt? They're just like oh, dude. They could do they couldn't they could do it They literally do everything But yeah, what's with this von rum guy has been trying to give you the answer about if kk or others You guys should bring him on really quick. He's an insane story and ran at the fabro two weeks ago Who's is this uh YouTuber von rum not familiar. No, okay. I have no idea all right They're setting up the sequels on his well That's the thing also his movie is essentially going to be the first sequel trilogy that we're going to have If you think about it Well, I mean to me his movie is just leading into the sequels I got the entire mando verse to me is tying into the sequel trilogy Yeah, he might be trying to give us a bit of fun beforehand, but we're having there I think he's gonna do his own thing man. I don't know I would hate it if he did that. Okay here. I got it. I got it. I got it Forgot that I actually clipped it Yeah, like to me, um Uh, oh there it is there it is Thought for most of all was the high ground thing We we hated the high ground It's the biggest meme now everyone. Yeah, you know, yeah, I know, you know, I mean it has its place now. Yeah And it was about it really was about hayden hayden and I used to walk to this restaurant at night in bondai And and there was a big grass slope and that was the quickest way but he fell over it He fell the first time we went he's Upended himself and slid all down the bank and said I'm never going that way again And in my head, I thought oh, he's you know and Vader is bad on a slope. It gives you something to work with Um, but that's sort of how that happened. But we had a different version of that where that didn't happen and um Oh because arms and his legs off a different way I mean there was a version where there was no high ground There was a version that the whole volcano thing where they land on that droid wasn't there originally they swung and landed They swung off that great big rope And they just landed on the side of the volcano on the lava Right next to each other and straight away anakin just grabbed him by the he disarmed him Grabbed him by the throat, you know, you've got him and obi savers down on the ground And anakin says i'm sorry has to be this way my master and actually Let he lets it go obi Hunches to get away from it sucks his sabre up As he pulls his sabre up and cuts through anakin's arms almost by mistake And then chops through his legs almost by mistake and the whole body fell off of his legs And then he you know, it was more of a defense gone wrong kind of move It was strong even the boys that uh, you and and had and Went to george and said george this and he was he was having none of it But it's george lucas, you know, he's yeah, yeah He's like we wouldn't be having this conversation if it wasn't for george. So I think it's foolish second guessing him It's foolish, but you know That's awesome. I know dude. I think that would have been way cooler Have you uh, do you play the revenge of the sith game? Yes. Yeah, I'm like ps2 or whatever Bro the alternate ending for that game is like my favorite thing ever. Oh dude, it's wicked. Um Let's see I'll see if I can find it It's just come out like right next to the movie and the lego game and like the you could find out Basically the whole film's plotline came out it came out before it before it came out Yeah, yeah, yeah I so I played the game brah my friends were so fucking mad at me I played the game and I was like this is awesome because when you did the fights like the boss fights They were like long drawn out fights, right? And there was a portion after uh, after Basically when palpatine where anakin and mace bought And it was like this awesome fight and i'm in the theater Like as the scene's like happening anakin's racing to the to the chancellor's office I'm telling my buddies like bro This is about to be the coolest fight you've ever seen anakin and mace are about to fight I was like hype it up and then he skits there. He's like I can't I need him Out the window and my all my friends just like look at me. I'm like I don't know what happened I don't know like who invited this camera Yeah, but yeah, that was wait while because the novelizations used to be put out before the movie Like no one cared about spoilers like they do back then No, because it wasn't disney freaking he was promoting Everything as much as he could dude. I had a darth malt t-shirt. I had the episode one book before the movie came out. I had Uh, dude darth malt was on everything It was crazy. It was a crazy time Remember as well. How old was everybody here when they would have seen revenge is in the theater because 15 Because I would have been I was uh Well, yeah, I was I guess 16 or so you've been 16 or 17. Yeah, yeah seven plus it doesn't five, right? Wait, would I've been 13? Yeah, you'd be 13. I was you were 13. I was 15. Ryan was just 16 one of my favorite memories was um My dad was like, you know kind of into style Well, he was the reason I got into it in the first place But he was just sort of like they I think for me and uh when Chris Felique on his arms chopped off and then his head chopped off For my dad in the center of it turning to me being like what the fuck and I was like, yes This is so fucking cool Oh, man, I know I'm sharing the uh revenge of the sith This is this is an underrated video game out there by the way I know I have the high ground you underestimate the power of the dark side. Don't try it Oh There you go That that zoom in just kicks his ass down And zoom in Down there, bitch I don't want to get I don't want to get you uh hit with john williams, but here's the end. This is the best part Oh shit, I remember this. Yeah Excellent work by apprentice There are none left to oppose us The galaxy is ours now You're a new weapon lord faker It was troopers No, the galaxy belongs to me They go that's it. That's the alternate ending. I love it. It's weird like the weird flip. I'm just like I'm gonna distract the emperor with this cool flip Pretty much what's you got? What's your favorite star wars video game? Uh, dude, I really liked I really liked, um Fallen order Really? Okay. Yeah The one that made me the most excited as a kid was probably I mean nostalgia reason jk2 Jedi 2 Jedi outcast Yeah, like you're dead at Jedi outcast is amazing Jedi academy is also great I prefer that lightsaber play to pretty much anything Although like Jedi survivor is slick and cool and feels good But in terms of the level of control and how much a lightsaber actually feels like it's a lightsaber Um The Jedi night Jedi outcast and Jedi academy games all way Hunter me. I agree. Yeah, um, yeah Alfred too for me That is just because I loved playing that whole galaxy map the world and taking over as all different factions and Feeling like, you know, this is what would have happened if they did this My favorite was cis by the way because you kept getting Darth Maul and Count Dooku as your heroes and stuff And I was like, oh, cool. And uh, what are my favorite things? This is a little bit. It's like a pathic But whatever holis masa If you push because the whole map is like a half donut sort of thing kind of like You know lowercase n If you push hard enough fast enough you can crank up the numbers so that everyone has like 500 reinforcements You can force them all into one command post And then if you're Darth Maul, you can just throw your lightsaber over and over and kill like a thousand You're like hundreds of clones are just getting slaughtered by you throwing your little lightsaber over and over. It's fucking great I I really miss star wars video games have taken such a terrible turn It would I don't think we realized the peak that we were in between like 2000 and Like 2007 when it wasn't even like super creative. It was just like, hey, we have a genre of video game that's out there Let's do a star wars skin and a star wars theme on it. Let's go to the story. Let's shit it out there Yeah, I'd be awesome. I'd be okay. Let's just shit them all out there And you get the flight simulators in the in the like mid to late 90s I played that shit out of x-wing and tie fighter x-wing versus tie um X-wing alliance. I had a little joystick and everything. I'd spend hours down there on the computer Um galactic battlegrounds empire at war if you're talking about like more strategy based games were awesome Obviously night's the old republic. I like night's the old republic two actually better than the first cotour I never played especially never played the second one. Oh my gosh, dude you have if you play it you have to do the restored content mod because Cotor was such a massive success That they wanted to get another one out straight away. They had like a nine month turnaround time um, and a different studio did it um A different studio did it and they got some of the um, whatever you call it The files and everything, uh, whatever they did for cotor. They got some of that from the other studio and all that stuff Yeah, um, and obviously made a lot of their own changes But the story is way more full They cut a ton of content to be able to release it So if you do it get it on pc get the get the restored content mod to play everything they originally intended it to be It's awesome. So you you don't know about darth kraya I mean, I know about her from kraya the darth kraya Yeah, leading from reading from legends and stuff and but no, I I didn't get to play I I played the first one when I was a kid and I was I remember becoming a jedi losing my shit and like Oh, yeah And I remember that right at that moment. I was called for dinner and I was like, I was like, okay And I just like went back to my computer, but I don't really have much memory after that sadly So I think you'd be really interested just because of the way you really like to look at the force and things like that um kraya is a super interesting character. Yeah, um and is kind of known as one of the more Convoluted and complex characters that we've seen in like that kind of element of star wars Yeah, and we especially get so much dialogue over the course of a, you know, 25 hour plate or whatever it is So, yeah, dude. She she's a really cool character. You know who interests me is sion if I would just keep living Darth signa basically and that's always the answer that I get when I say don't like mall It's like, well, how do you feel about Darth sion? it's like Well, so Darth sion is a guy who lives on the dark side and like he's so angry that you just can't kill him now In the video game. It's basically portrayed as you bring his health bar down and it goes back up Right, what does that really mean if I chop his head off will he live? I don't know Um, he's got like a bunch of wounds and stuff on him though, right? For Darth mall I saw that dude get bisected Have an asshole Yeah, but we even have that in real life. There's guys there's guys that are just haved Yeah, but they don't go go down in the garbage and live in a garbage The lizard When they filmed that scene if you'd said hey, george Darth mall's dad, he'd be like, yeah, like, yeah, okay. And then like, you know, he's like, well, maybe not Maybe let's bring him back. I know he has a lot of these like Answers that just kind of he's like, yeah, whatever He still doesn't give a shit. He's like, you know, maybe a mace is alive. Yeah, sure I'm fine with that could be Yeah, well, and that's the thing and To me Ultimately and I know george was involved in that decision to bring mall back, right? He greenlit that thing, of course um, but to me that Does start to become a problem and we're starting to see it now and like in current star wars content because if If you set if you establish that That someone can survive that Well, why can't you reasonably justify that someone else could survive this or that or that or that? And now I feel like It doesn't feel like anybody legitimately has ever really gone even book a boba fett um when you think Tim of the elephant you think Tim of the elephant's dead No, yeah, no, he's alive. No. Oh, what about ming now when she gets shot in the gut? No problem She's fine. Oh my god. It's just it But you can always bring it back to well, what are you gonna complain about? About sabine getting a lightsaber through the gut. I watched Darth Maul get cut in half and he's alive I know what you're just surprised a lot of that But there's so many things to argue about that because it's like He has the dark side. None of these people have the dark side reva Yeah, reva. Exactly. There you go. She doesn't know it's like bro. There's no character that kid Jedi This is me off more than reba And also because she just took the whole show Yeah, you hate women. Oh Yeah, yeah, I guess well, I I saw a bunch of people being like because I have you in the stream now It's like they're seeing a whole bunch of stuff. You must you must do this your racist. You hate I have not been paying too much attention to the chat to be honest Yeah, whatever I have so I have no I have no real idea what's going real idea what's going on, but I love you chat. You're awesome We got 3,500 people in the chat consistently for the last While now so if y'all could hit like I'd really appreciate it boys. I'm sorry. I'm going to do a quick plug I just dropped my merch. So if you guys Want to go and purchase some merch? This is the black friday special edition available only for a few more Well weeks, I guess But um last year it did sell out really quick and a lot of you guys are butthurt because you couldn't grab one But I made a whole post on it on instagram if you guys want to go check it out The link is in the description. You can grab one right now So make sure you go and do that to support the channel and everything goes to ryan's pocket All right back to the rest of the stream here So I just say by the way We've got how many people who registered the conversation when we spent the last half an hour just talking about So the stuff we like about the video games just random memories and stuff Yeah, but that's why I like this this kind of a stream It's what I like so random. Yeah, like for me My favorite era of star wars is Post return of the jedi Post return of the jedi expanded universe Seeing luke skywalker and han and leah their kids raising their kids rebuilding the jedi order The grand kid or not the grandkids, but the kids and what they're able to go on and do My favorite star wars character in history is jason solo Like that's my favorite star wars character. Really? Yeah, and The arc that we see him go on Is phenomenal and the legacy of the four series The legacy of the four series really shows a lot it really is a jason series and May or may not end well I don't know and you have to get to the ninth book before you find out but It just brings it pays off, you know decades worth of reading these books and learning about these characters So like to me, that's my favorite part of star wars Which is why I was so excited when disney bought it because I thought at least I was going to get continuations of these stories But no not only they decide to say hey, we're going to wipe us like clean So we can have creative freedom going forward, but also we're going to stop telling any of those stories So it's done That sucked for me That sucked for everybody man. There's so many people that were bent out of shape over it. I think you know half of chat is well Actually chat. What do you guys think about everything turning into? legends now That doesn't exist and the funny thing is it's like it's like they take like some sort of an amalgamation of legends with their own Crap and they just create their own sort of new character like kylo ren for example Yes right like I despise that's that and that's one of like the issues That's where I was gonna ask you like you probably fucking hate kylo ren because it's like you almost kind of got You know, yeah kylo ren is this I call bastardization because that's what I feel like they do To me Ron is a bastardization of his character. His name is thron, but the way he's portrayed in rebels and now in live action Is not drawn so I don't There's a lot of different opinions on it. I'm of the opinion that You left it. You said hey no longer doing these things. We're rebranding this cannon Do your own shit Yeah, I it it doesn't feel good to me to see a character that I loved done poorly and you expect me to thank you for it That's what I don't like. Um, I think there's some people out there There's some people out there that just want to see it. Hey this character that I know from a book. That's cool That's not me. Um, everybody's different. That doesn't last as well Like the people who are like, oh, thank fuck thron is in live action And they got the guy who uh voiced him relative. This is great Like ask those same people in half a year and they'll be like, oh, yeah Yeah, and it's like a little hints are like a character name here or uh A rep people were like, oh, don't you think the zombie storm troopers are cool? Because it's kind of like death troopers It's like one it's not like death troopers at all and two it was really stupid So no, I don't feel like oh, what a nod to the eu You're more than willing to take little ideas to take little things from people that wrote it better than you did It was more beloved than what you did and try to take it and use it and make your own story with those pieces But it to me, it's not a good product and it's not respectful at all They got like overrun by possibly the worst enemy in terms of dealing with a lightsaber Those those things had nothing Nothing they can do against a lightsaber and they had fucking four lightsabers between It was weird, man It was like, why didn't you just chop all their heads off or like chop them in half at the knees or something? What's so awkward is you don't even need choreography. You just awkwardly hold it out in front of you And they would walk into it and die Literally, there's an unlimited amount of ways. You could have chopped their legs off They couldn't walk could have chopped their head off. Maybe it works that way in their that universe Could have chopped their arms off and they literally could have just walked at you and bumped you not done anything The oldest powers that we had in the games was just a forced throw with your lightsaber Yeah, what the hell just hey guys stand far back It would almost be boring like in a funny way like so could be like this is easy. I don't even know why they tried this We're like force push them down the stairs You know like What's the big deal and then they shipped at some point like there's a little edit cut Uh where they like bounce back to morgan and then they bounce back to them and instead of being like zombies They're just like running down the corridor fine Yeah, I'm so confused that point. I was like, wait, are they not zombies anymore? Are they like people again? Are they fine now? They're and then the troop is the um asra and sabine fight I was like, oh, they're already zombies. Okay It's been zombies for a while. Yeah, they're like rotten and shit. Yeah I don't know dude. I was hoping for something a little more like I knew we'd we'd get zombies from them I knew there were zombies, but I was hoping that we would potentially get some like a big villain and like, you know when she was going around Uh when she was going to fight elspeth and then sabine and asra just like leave her I'm like well, you guys could just literally fight her right now for two seconds killer killer real quick Go move on but no But maybe she was afraid that you know, they would die or something. Maybe a sucker was afraid So she sent them off on their own It it was weird and especially with the themes of like sticking together and stuff and how that hasn't paid off well for them Like literally just a couple episodes ago Dude, Brian, they practically lampshaded that it's like, hey, we're supposed to stick together Then so it's like cod let's roll get away though. It's like, okay, so let's stick together Yeah, that's kind of where I saw it too. Yeah, I know I don't know dude. It's I was really invested in bailing the whole time and I was hoping that we would get you know, maybe a little bit more at the end of them But I guess we're gonna have to wait. That's why I really call it like a prologue Soca season zero It doesn't even need to be called a soca Yeah, uh current events Yeah, this week this week in galactic affairs literally. Yeah Luke Skywalker still missing It's not even missing though, that's the thing. No, he's just well, I mean it if no one talked about him though Well, what I guess no, no, because I assume you make it the same point, but it's like he's very Mundanely accessible. He's just on that planet. It's nothing special about it at all He's not off learning something finding someone's not even with them anymore He doesn't have anything to do or watching tv with the spider robots building the the huts Building the huts that he can kill his nephew and Everybody when they saw that episode was like holy shit. Are they actually gonna set us up to have a kyla red kill grogu? Yeah, oh, that'd be cool. That would be cool That'd be badass man. Let's do it. It has to happen Um, but that's what I'm gonna say dude grogu is gonna be the character I guarantee you he's gonna be in the rey movie They're gonna. I don't make sense. Yeah, not be surprised. I would not be surprised at all everybody He's he's the mandalorian jedi Dude, he's he's gonna be 300 years from now. There's a grogu Yeah, probably he's an infinite like character. You know what I mean? Because he'll live for like 700 years forever and they started him off as a baby A 50 year old baby. Yeah, but you know what's weird is that yoda said at uh, What do you say he's 800 years have I trained jedi which means and he was 900 years old almost so like he started training jedi at 100 Yes, so so what's the that that is of growth spurt? So yoda yoda became a jedi master at 100 um Like at least in previous in previously established continuity you did Grogu is already a jedi knight. All right, and if you disagree You hate babies Yeah, grogu is as much of an actual jedi as a soca is Dude the fucking I know I brought it up before the praedorian god fight That lives in my brain forever. I can't believe they fucking did that Wait, you mean the one in mando season three or And the puppet jump in and and and the fact that all of them are like trying to swat a fly and awkwardly walking around the It's like, what have you done? I don't know how they could take season three and just So how do you feel about Mando season two as a whole Obviously the Luke Skywalker thing at the end. Yeah. Yeah, how do you feel about the whole season? Yeah, I liked I liked season two But it was I I thought I thought that season two Was a drop-off from season one and mostly because I didn't feel like there was a very Throughout story it mostly felt like cameo the week to me um And it changed from yeah, it's like okay. We got the bokeh ton episode. We get the asoka episode We get the boba fat episode. We get the luke scowark episode so in in two weeks Mando runs into like super important people just happens upon it, you know what? I mean in his journey is kind of crazy you talking about how soca has become like the center of the universe I felt like they they ruined mando with that um Yeah, so much cooler when he was off on his own doing his own thing But he's like I said collecting all those toys as well from like everybody and he's he's been stripped of most of them Now as well He like I'll agree with everybody. I assume here Such a shame that he's being sidelined in his own show When like I've just been waiting for him to be interesting to me again Instead of being a ping-pong ball that goes through everyone else's stories But it's weird because You know he's sidelined boba Yeah, he gets sidelined by bokeh tan And I assume you know about the quote from uh, pager pascalary. He's like, yeah, I'm ready for her to take over as The mandalorian Of course, he would say that it's just fucking lame What's Pedro gonna say with Pedro Pascal's fan base if he said like no, I'm not gonna let a woman take over or something You know you think it'd be nice if he said something along the lines of like absolutely She's important to the story, but of course the mandalorian is about din jaran It would be really great if he fucking said that but obviously he's not gonna partly because of the fact as well That i'm pretty sure it's it's become clear. I don't think he wants to play din jaran anymore. Look at all No, I don't think you give a shit. No, I don't think it is I don't think it gives him very much like clout or anything off it. I don't think he gets paid a ton for it First of all, no, um based on what we know about some of the salaries for star wars and stuff like that But also when your helmet's on the entire time, it's Obviously hardcore fans do identify Pedro with that character, but I don't know if a general public does We don't see him. He can't be like look mom on tv Like he can't you know because no one really knows but at the same time We don't need Pedro to be mando Give me a i voice. Who was it the grandson of john wane or something like that? Yeah, the other ones are actually playing him. Yeah, he's the one that is like literally walking around in the mando suit and doing all the stunts and everything so Great. Well, that was change from season two to three, right? And the that's where you can see I'm assuming things went wrong behind the scenes and that he was probably on the cusp of leaving and then they got Because the theory of course Forgive me if you guys have already know more than this than I do But this is just from watching it. You can tell like they had to scrap Assumed production on season three of mandalorian because of issues they would have had and then they rush out boba And then fill in two episodes of mando that they completed Into that season and then because that's clearly the beginning of season three Like yeah from what I heard there were real problems with Pedro And a lot of people felt like he was gonna walk um and Babbro kind of said well Fuck it. I'll replace you with somebody else. And that's when the boba after you replaced him Yeah, that's a remark that's like what the fuck was I replaced in my own season And that to me that is one of those and boba is one of those shows where I do think you can Like I think that was probably the least prepared one of all of them rushed. Yeah Um, that's why he was still like not in great shape, too. You know, I mean like he he That I think that the boba fett Entry into season two was last minute and that's why he was so out of shape and everything. Yeah Um, so I I do think that a lot of that drama is probably the reason boba ends up getting pushed into that Which is also the reason for the final mission. He is like he's just a taxi for them Instead of actually like taking part in what they were doing even tomorrow Like he wasn't didn't seem that's the way I read it. It didn't seem too happy with Yeah, you know mandal coming in and taking over his show And at the end of the day mandal's supposed to be Kind of a taking second seat to boba Boba's always got to be number one But now you have it where mando is like The new guy. He's like the new number one. So the when boba shows up. I'm like, oh Yeah, it's like how the hell did you do that boba fucking had that like about that Exactly like how did you do that to him? You know, he was supposed to be the dude that shows up It's like are they gonna do this with vader now? I love tomorrow's response um and like how he said yeah, I hope uh I hope I don't talk as much next season if we do another season. I think I was talking too much You just stand there be intimidating. Yeah, that's when he lines Like yeah, you understand the character the meme in my community, but the um The the comment on water from someone then he just looks at like you know when and he's like I grew up surrounded by water The fuck is that line? Why would? Is Don't you remember I was a kid on camino. Yeah, that's like, yeah, I know I know what why would Why does it matter it's so much weird dialogue in disney, but then also what happened to the uh the tuscan lady Wait, which husband lady remember the tuscan? There was a tuscan warrior. Who's a girl? Oh, didn't you just get killed or whatever? Did any kill them all? No, she escaped I think yeah didn't she I thought they all go along this by the uh the bikers or whatever right? I don't remember anymore I yeah, I thought he like brought slave one back that they didn't call slave one because they're not offensive anymore I thought that he just like trashed them all or no that was a speeder bike gang, wasn't it? Fuck you reminded me that he didn't go eaten by a salak like in his slave one ship. That was insane Yes, god stupid show Stupid shit happens in it Yeah, right she did escape. Oh man, I can't wait for her to have her own fucking What are the title be? Oh, no, but we know it's just gonna be just good lady Whatever your name is that's what we title it at least cad bane's alive We know that much Yeah, of course cad bane's alive. Why no, I wouldn't it be um, it would be stupid to see me died from that Meanwhile, all these other characters are surviving what they survived literally I did think um, I thought that was a pretty good live action representation of cad bane That was pretty solid again. It's oftentimes. It's not like they've got the actors. They've got the Money they just don't like this the scripts every time for me the scripts suck ass, dude And whoever's overseeing all these things. They're just like not getting it. I don't know what I don't it's not that hard This it doesn't feel like it should be does it? No, it's really not I think when you get Hollywood studios and things like that and these corporate things. I just ends up like that when I look at Lucasfilm now There are a lot of people That we're working there when George was there That never would have done stuff in terms of interacting with fans or pushing stuff like that They never would have done that when George was there because they didn't we saw that it they didn't But for some reason I mean I was like Pablo, right? He's he was there for a long time There's something about the leadership that's there now that enables people to Be maybe who they always really were Um, I think it's just a big problem with leadership and it's run so differently than I think the way George did things Um, George hated Hollywood. George hated the studios. Oh, I know. Yeah He hated them despised them There's raging rhino He loves you theory Raging rhino you got him up on chat right now He has some criticisms for you, but he loves you All right Well, take a fucking number There's a long line. There's a long line. Yeah, whatever is what it is Um Well, I guess we should get to reading some soupies. Did you guys want to stay on for that? They usually took kick quite a while It's up to you. Yeah, I'm fine with that. Especially if they're directed in any way to us That could sound for a while. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, cool. Let me uh bring in the boys as well They've been I told them I might have them on today Depends on our conversation goes in there if they're around but come on Um, let me just refresh my whole thing because it's do you guys ever use stream yards? I don't yeah, does it ever lag for you sometimes? Sometimes there's been something weird going on with stream yard and are you on chrome right now? Yep There's been something weird going on stream yard in chrome for the past like week or so I feel like been like a month for me. It'll just yeah Lagging I can't see things it doesn't pop up like Harry hates stream yards right now in terms of function out Some of those are problems with it It's tough to tell when he's complaining about technology if I got him problem or not Even when He's doing good What he read the word cloud is clued He has problems reading I was thinking about when so theory when you sent the tweet out last week, hey Uh, you know Ryan's gonna be on next week and then you tag Gary and a couple other people and you're like, hey Feel free to come on Right and he replies you he's like sorry. I missed this Catch you on the next one And it's like this is for the next one Gary. Like what are you talking about? I know Boomer brains the the cloud clued thing was funny because he called out extra girl for misspelling clouds And she was like yellow ud that he just stared at Clued Uh, yeah, I I found out that I am uh six percent Welsh by the way Don't hold that fenced you I don't know if we've got any superpowers. I hope you do Totally get the criticisms of Dave's story telling But why did some people drag his wife into the mess due to her social media posts? Makes them come off like losers and validates. This is the first I hear this And you see condamn on stuff like that. I completely agree with you. I actually talked about that. There was a lot of uh, what happened? so A lot of people took, you know, Dave's wife's on instagram and I think her and I would not agree on a lot of things like socially or politically Um, but she had some pretty divisive stuff about like abortion and things like that on there And people were like taking screenshots of that and being like This is who Dave Filoni's married and blah blah blah and oh, I was like, listen I have so many things that I can criticize Dave Filoni for when it comes to star wars I don't need to talk about his wife. So it's his wife's name. He and I forget he and Convary I think she's written like one or two episodes of clone wars before Okay um But yeah, I I didn't uh Problem with some of the things people were saying about her Yo, will What up dudes chat welcome will that is not the right microphone. Are you echoing? Me You're echoing hard He sounds cool. He sounds like he's on his webcam microphone. He's got his re-speecher I was doing my Kyla red impressions. It's still bad. Yeah, it's not it sounds like it's coming from your uh What the actual fuck She's getting flamed I didn't see anything. I don't see anything. It's from it was from uh Like a month ago or something. Oh crazy It started going around on twitter people just taking screenshots or whatever Listen, I'm off. We're going after people I've gone after Dave Filoni in terms of like his work or like some of the things he said at women's conferences Or stuff like that a lot Um, I don't need to drag his wife into it. Yeah, you never drag people's family, man You got something to say about them say it about them, but Ryan's been a lot to a lot of women's conferences I'm very familiar with them It's a great place to pick women up Oh damn feel good Filoni over tony killjoy and killjoy Oh Oh, yeah, well, so this is the problem feel good Filoni. I fucking wish I felt good watching this stuff, but I don't I was annoyed I feel I feel like I'm watching a Like a cartoon That just has been turned into live action With none of the heart behind it But with all of the kind of a little bit more maybe juvenile level writing That's how I feel when I'm watching Filoni's live action stuff So me and will we we didn't feel and or that much right will? Uh My co-host Tony is the biggest fan of and or that you could possibly imagine on dark side secrets myself Eh It's fine I I enjoyed it was cool to watch like if I was looking for a series on hbo max To kind of just watch as I'm walking around You guys don't love mason rail Like he's one of my favorite stullest characters of all time now being this he's a very compelling character But I don't know enough about him to be like I love him You know what I mean, I don't like all the the the puppeteering he does all the decisions He has to make especially the whole like sacrificing a whole faction of your team So it looks like you don't know. Yeah the isb are on to you. Yeah. Oh, that was awesome That speech like fully encapsulate everything I thought about the character. I was like, oh, shit. This is cool I can't wait to see how each was amazing What did you think about mon mothma like going through all this stuff for like A couple hundred thousand credits or something which seems like She was like nothing Is the credit amounts like change throughout the different shows and movies in terms of what everyone has access to Yeah, they probably should have left out vague in terms of like selling her daughter off That was wild It was like a because it just seemed like not a lot of money I mean in the grand scheme for someone like mon mothma, right I'm sorry to say salty sand man. I think you were like fifth He identifies as first he's got it Call them will be ray shields ray shields wait, we're smarter than this. No disney apparently you're not It's good I don't even know what the story is going to be about 15 years after episode nine and You know, I wouldn't be fucking surprised if palpatine's back Well, yeah, so in that in that book and daddy issues. Yeah in that book he's um Secrets of the sith that there's this literally a device that like brings back the dent Oh, well, that's how kyla is going to come back then probably my god. I'm drivers never touching this franchise again You kidding me? No, he's seen it way. He's out of there He's he's got that attitude that a couple of actors that have gotten installed have been like, yeah This would be a good idea. Holy fuck. That was a mistake. I'm back to like indie move. I know Did you guys see that uh that most recent clip of adam driver that was going around on twitter? Where he was like getting interviewed for something and a fan walked up and asked him a question about the movie And he was like, uh, so this movie, uh, you're the the CGI was kind of bad And the scenes were a little slow and the explosions were bad and he just looked at the guy and he goes, okay, fuck you and that was Look like a crowd of people. It was hilarious. He just took a drink and he went fuck you It's about ferrari. He got asked about like cheesy chase scenes or something He's like, all right, fuck you. Holy shit. Can you bring can you find that dude? I'll look on twitter. I saw it the other day Yeah Yeah, the guys like the guys like so in this movie the chase scenes are cheesy and the explosions are bad What do you think about that and he goes? I don't know. Fuck you Damn Oh, it's like all we can see a fucking part literally when tarantino was like questioned about uh, not giving margo robbie much screen time or something. He's like, I reject your hypothesis I'm not even gonna entertain you I love The one with tarantino where they're like, why are you filmed so file? He just goes because it's fun jam He's my favorite man, I love great But I saw some picture the other day of like margo robbie leo Brad Pitt and Tarantino People like why isn't every picture with people that are like way more attractive Quitting tarantino always looks like he thinks he's the hot one It was just like going every picture with him just looking at the camera like with fuck me eyes You're like, why is this dude stand like this? weirdo Yeah, I know Yo, yo, what's up guys? What's up, man? Chillin chillin man See you got that shin hottie in the background. Oh, yes Crazy eyes. Yeah, should we just bring melvin and just do a whole cluster fuck of I Feel like melvin's always lurking in the background. Are you is everyone here okay with melvin? Sure. Yeah He's like, it's gonna it's a melvin Or is he just cool? Oh, you'll find out I will have to see melvin and mauler interact I put that adam driver clip in the chat the private chat for us while I just sent him the link so The only good part of isoka was hayden christensen fighting years later He's still fast as ever a soaker herself looks slown and confident But by comparison, you know, you can't have her out do the master I mean to to be a little more mean to her like I thought she was looking pretty awkward and slow in the early before Hayden even entered the show Well, for sure. I mean she's not going to be Again, it comes down to the instructions. I think you know, whoever they have for choreography bless their hearts But you know, you can't have the standard of the prequel trilogy choreography and then anything but that Did you guys watch a lot of the bts stuff when you have the choreography characters? Some of it, uh, like especially for the world world between worlds episode. Yeah the sabine stuff that I forget her name the actress who plays sabine posted it's a show something whatever it is. Um The behind the scene stuff looked a lot more intriguing than what we actually saw in the show Like on her instagram and all that like it was so much. It was a whole lot faster. It was moving quickly It looked to me it was like, why don't we just see this? Yeah, whatever the big thing you lose from Filming to the final product oftentimes with disney star was just clarity I don't know what they do when they chew up all of the scenes and like harsh edits and cuts But it's like see like you just said you see some of the behind-the-scenes stuff Looks so bad. Yeah Was there choreography better in mando? I can't really remember. I think it was kind of um, I think it I actually don't think it was I think that the fight between her the first fight between her and morgan was Ridiculously dumb That one didn't work for me because she's got a fucking spear of metal. So like you got lightsabers. You've already won She's not gonna. Yes. The matter. You can block them. It's the you understand what i'm saying, right? You can always angle the lightsabers when you lock so she's just dead. There's nothing she's doing about that It should have and she you know can use the force that too I you know, I don't know why that didn't come up in that fight. Well, she doesn't want to win it honorably. She can use magic We didn't we didn't speak but we didn't know that or see any of that there I know what you know, so i'm saying like nobody even used any abilities or powers It's like why are you guys it's like it's like dragon ball. It's like 50 episodes and then it's like I'm now going to use half my power I'm at 50 another 50 episodes. I'm now going to use 75. I've been holding back Okay, let's go and then it's another like four seasons A lot of us as uh choreography for that too She was like just popping around the woods and they they hit it in smoke and fog and stuff for that beginning scene So you really didn't see her. It was cool. But like It was you didn't really see her too much. It was just Away, it was kind of like uh woods. Yeah, the Kenobi, uh, like what they did for force unleashed Why was genus firing more public than rape parks if you indeed even got fired that is Ah It was like obviously it blew up on social media. Uh, they specifically did it to Um, in my opinion satisfy a lot of the activists that are like within lucasfilm They wanted to shame her they wanted to embarrass her. Yeah, my opinion yeah, and also rape parks suspected one is because of some Weird stuff on instagram. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, but I mean like also, you know Gina's and the active production of a major popular show rape park wasn't Really, it's not like we have like a Darth Maul show. Yeah, wasn't she getting her own show Gina potentially? Like the rangers of the republic. Yeah Also, rape park didn't get cancelled. He Posted something that you know objectively you shouldn't really post No, um or or got hacked. Whatever the whatever the whatever happened Um, I believe in rape park. I trust him. I believe in rape park too. Me too. He's a really great guy I don't think anything like that should ever be um I think you should continue to play maul man Everyone keeps like writing him off and saying, oh, no, let's get sam whitworth maul like no, dude Nobody's gonna play maul unless it's rape park Nobody can move like him or have the cadence of Darth Maul Rae park is Darth Maul and so what he posted something or got something got leaked something private Whatever dude, he's human Like shut up about it. It happens sort of Who cares? He's a good guy and you know what he is the only Um celebrity that has actually like star wars celebrity that I know that has actually like really taken the time To talk to every single fan that I've seen like At conventions and stuff and he's like not a money hungry dude Like some of the other actors that are like charging exorbitant amounts um He legit will just like sit down and talk with you Like while there's a huge line like it's not just like a okay. Hey, how's it going like? Oh, yeah, what was your favorite part of the phantom minutes? Well, okay. Oh cool Here is a sign you'll like ask you questions spend maybe 15 20 minutes with you like talk with you Like he actually gives a shit and let you take pictures with your cell phone like he he's like a legit guy and It's just weird that people kind of like write him off now just because of some Minor bullshit that happened which really honestly, no one fucking cares about He can spin a double blade of lightsaber. I don't care what he posts on instagram. I don't care dude. He's a good guy He's a good guy. I like him Imagine episode 10 by ryan johnson and ray gets killed by heart attack I wouldn't be fucking surprised you he would probably be like, yeah, you guys thought I was on your team Yeah, I actually hate ray. So ha ha elon should buy star wars next What would elon do to star wars you probably make it a joke x wars Yeah, oh god, yeah It released it exclusively on twitter literally. Oh my god, literally bro. Uh, I think The person to probably buy star wars next is the the real most realistic is apple I don't think disney's I don't think disney's selling star wars um Is as much as we've seen like the struggles and stuff like that At the end of the day simply having the rights To the six original movies with distribution rights merchandising rights Simply that is such like a windfall and I just I have a really hard time seeing them selling this ip that has that much future potential earnings Well, I think bob auger just said in a article I think recently like last week or something Uh, or even less than that. He said that we're not going to pawn off our major Yeah, he's like marvel or star wars So it's insane. We're in a timeline where he has to like acknowledge whether or not disney going to start selling their assets like holy shit, like yeah and It's crazy because you you you sort of certainly I do like passing through a lot of communities at once in terms of fandoms and stuff And it's like you see you hear the same thing across so many of us like oh star wars like we you know It's drought it needs some help, but it's like you look over at marvel It's like they do it way worse in a way that it's like look over at everywhere. Indiana jones, man. We just Poor Indiana Jones fans It's so over. You know, I didn't even see it. What's going on with marvel right now Mom's disaster man. Absolutely destroyed. Hey, so falling apart man So there's been a lot of over the past couple weeks. There's been a lot of stuff That's finally come out about stuff going on behind the scenes The blade movie has it's like third director and fifth writer It is getting completely rebuilt from the ground up after they decided that the thing a blade movie needed to be about Was three women learning life lessons and marasha Ali was the fourth lead in his own movie ridiculous yes, um captain america 4 which used to be called New world order until they realized it might be a little too on the nose and they shifted that to brave new world um That which finished filming in june Has just been delayed till february of 2025 because they need to do five months worth of reshoots on it after it or test screenings yeah That sounds like a disaster The marvels is the worst box office flop for them in history. Yeah, it's a it signifies like a really big I kind of see like captain marvel to the marvels as What's the this big story in there that's going to be talked about You know decades from now more than likely because they were a juggernaut and they absolutely killed themselves Four years they went from being Well, like the dining movie industry, you know trophy on the hill To the point where they're in the character and no one respects them and everyone's embarrassed to be a part of them It's like yeah, how did you do that? I know um, I think about so much content on disney plus in these streaming series and it's like Uh Not a lot of it has been very very bad I've seen a lot of praise out there for loki finale mauler. Have you seen a lot of that out there? I'm What sorry about the finale is for No, even in my own uh community. I've seen people say like well at least that was good And it's like I don't think anyone knows what the fuck happened in that season They're like the thing with loki and I talked about this after isoka was um It felt refreshing for me to watch loki after watching isoka Because it felt like it was making me trying to make me think a little If that makes sense, I think it was way better shot I think the tom has done alone beats all of the acting put together in isoka I was really impressed how much he tried. I feel bad for him when he was um You're supposed to portray like all these different emotional states You're supposed to try and sell to the audience that kang is this horrifying villain that we have to stop Otherwise, it's all over. I was just sitting there like oh my god, man like you Feel so bad. Do you know what show you're in like it's kang is an embarrassing idiot like you have but he has He's literally a stuttering fool And yeah, you know, uh, like he's not loki at all from what we knew He's just completely different a new character and I've seen people Celebrate in the fact that he's he's because right. Have you seen this the people say like he's gonna become the time stone Yes, there's something about that. Yeah, and then like he's because he's green Wanda will become the reality. So it was like stop We're just matching colors at this point Yeah, literally Thanos is going to be revived and be the power stone Like these are the new theories that are out there, but then just A little a couple hours ago a new report came out that there's internally They do think they're going to move on from jonathan majors as kang and instead Potentially focus on something else or maybe just cut the kang and i to see out all together doom Please be doom. Please be doom like we're at a point. But here's the thing though as bad as all the news is There is a positive about it, which is they are finally they have finally realized that they need to change Yeah They haven't been listening to us for a long time the mainstream hasn't been listening to these complaints that we've had out there About what's going on in the mcu for one reason or another But now no one can ignore it and marvel internally is in full panic mode. They're ripping stuff up They're starting from scratch. They're changing everything because they've they've failed Will it be good? I I have my doubts what they do change it, but at least they know there's a problem You know, we end up having discussions on like who would you like to see introduced? Would it be doom? Would it be galactus? Would it be mafesta? Would it be the axmen of magneto and bring it and it's just like no matter the ansi like Fuck they're probably gonna fuck it up completely though Like yeah, who wants to see doom get humiliated something Oh, the problem is like a doom you need him to be as intelligent more than likely as you'd idolize seeing a throne At least it not idolized like you'd you'd perceive him and it is best, right? We can't see a doom who's an idiot walking But then at the same time is like well, what are you expecting man? It's like no, I know Yeah, that's yeah, I know but I'm with you guys. I want to see an awesome doctor doom I want to see him intimidate and I want to see him be cast and what do you think about a dead pool three? That's getting reshots as well. Isn't it? Yeah, I don't think it's been it's just not done shooting yet. Yeah, it's not done shooting, but it's Like they all the strikes are gonna fuck up dead pool three in in retrospect Sorry, I'm having too many thoughts at once. I'm assuming you guys don't do or don't know but like X-Men origins wolverine that film was killed by the 2008 riot strike, right? Yeah, which is just like is this some kind of fucking cruel irony that when Hugh Jackman and Ryan Reynolds team back up with these two characters to get a fucking other riot strike A couple years to the actual year it was supposed to be like the anniversary or something of that film getting released I saw Hugh Jackman post something and he was like, oh, isn't that ironic that it's Supposed to be like an anniversary of that film coming out for or no, uh, the Logan movie Where he's like fighting in japan or whatever that one is The Is it the wolverine or something that probably just they add the to any of the main characters It's the one where at the end he opens up the case and you see the yellow and black suit, but he doesn't put it on You just see it. Oh, that's the one where he goes to tokyo. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, but overall I think Deadpool 3 is gonna make a shit ton of money for them. Um I I just think the idea of Ryan Reynolds and Hugh Jackman back and there's gonna be cameos galore I think it is gonna like bring people back to the theater just interest level because those they'd like those actors Yeah, I have no idea what it's gonna do what they should do is go full on Deadpool Deadpool kills the mcu and Just like in the comic books that go Deadpool kills the Marvel universe go through Do it in a funny way a jokey way make fun of yourselves make fun of how stupid the multi versus become make fun all the mistakes you've made and Erase it from history and start fresh Use Deadpool to introduce at the end of Deadpool 3 just have an already established x-men unit already established fantastic four unit And you boot the mcu. That's what they should do to be honest It's so funny too because if you said yeah, and I assume ryan you're on the board with this But like, you know, what's the solution for malice like clean house get them all out Same thing as tall as get them all out reset Right from the foundation. It's like who's left like John Watts didn't piss everyone off completely having figgy fans. Fuck. No Yeah Um, I I'm more than like convinced that he's responsible for most of this Like he's a puppet master sort of thing for most of these projects I know there's directors and actors that are aware that he like he gets final say and final push on a lot of these Different decisions that even catastrophic. It's so ironic that she Hulk is one of the bigger examples of everyone being like Holy shit. What's going wrong and in she Hulk? There's like a meta reference to how perfect heaven foggy's formula is And it's like, yeah Really? Yeah, I didn't really pay attention much. I just tried to see the Hulk scenes, but that was it. I guess I'm just sexy Yeah, see the whole See watch a three minute recap. Yeah Yeah, and then yeah, and then I just stopped watching and I saw what they did to his son Yeah Whoever lined that dude up is gonna lose his job green chatting Baller you made a good point something something's happening right now I'm not the Jedi I should be I want more And I know I shouldn't Hello, dear. This is dark melvin leader of the knights of melvin What up guys? What's going on? Happy to have you hanging out Funny story last night Playing star wars episode one racer and I was kicking some fucking ass And my internet stopped working I think disney shut down my internet Disney was 100 behind it You know if if the internet goes out here and we all disappear. We know who's behind it We know what they're doing. This is the most toxic stream in history We just need jeremy gary. We need uh j I don't know who else j you think jay's toxic Isn't he known as like the toxic guy We drink three of these friends of jena My jay is like uh All the all the crybaby shills. They say jay is like the the lightest one of geeks and gamers Yeah, he's the nicest one. He's the least bad. Who's seen as the worst Surely jeremy, right? Oh gary. Probably me I'd say Oh, jeremy takes the mantle. Okay. Oh the worst of uh, I thought you met. Yeah, I don't know I think jeremy used to but I think gary's often seen as like the Ringleader evilman sort of thing Yeah, he's got like 900,000 subs or whatever I have like like from that side of like people that are just perceived as toxic I feel like there's a lot of people that don't like me Oh, yeah, you're you're definitely hate. I said to theory that like you're getting trouble for talking to me and these I'm talking to ryan is like, oh, okay. It's fine To be fdm Whereas like after the shoes like you're gonna get a lot of trouble. I'm like, I don't give a fuck what people say I'm having ryan on next week and he just sends like a crying emoji I'm I'm hated a little bit differently than ryan and like the fnt sphere People people hate like more nitpicks all star wars movies hates everything You know like star wars fans don't like me, but they usually don't I say usually don't they still do go with the racist angle the sexist angle How convenient more than like the the sequel the trilogy that had a woman leading it Yeah, all right once I announced ryan's coming on there were a whole bunch of people that were butthurt And uh, yeah, that was the last straw for some people when it comes to you theory Having me on made you officially like the worst person ever or something Hey, man, that's that's what I want to be honest I really want to like get out the people that are just intolerant And want to control me and to tell me who I can or can't talk to or who I can and can't break bread with or whatever I don't like to underneath those people. I don't want those people. I don't want my content to show up on their timelines. I don't I had a much better time making youtube videos when I was at like 500,000 to Actually even even 250,000 to a million subs. That was like the sweet spot. That's when everyone was really You're not big enough to you're not the biggest one You're not big enough to be like on everyone's radar And but you're you're just making the content you like and you have a really good community of people who just like you And that that for me was the best So To hell with them. Yeah, it's nice when your audience just doesn't give a fuck say whatever you want You know, I say some ridiculous shit on my streams and my audience top-notch Yeah You will have lost Viewers now thanks for talking to me and Ryan, but you'll have gained plenty as well because I mean our fandom like our our bases behind us are going to be surprised by some of these conversations Because they might have a point of view of you or any of the people here In fact, your your view is going to have points of view of us You know, I mean the most shocking thing that can happen on the internet sometimes. It's just two people talking Yeah, I know it's unfortunate, but you know this long in the game that I've been in Man, I don't care anymore about followers and viewers I like lose them all As long as I got my core audience, it doesn't matter, you know The people who like I really care about and that have got me this far is that's great But the stragglers that want to judge me on this and that or judge you guys or whatever Don't need them just like in life. So Yeah, I think the reality is in our current space of entertaining across the board When people have so many different options so many for youtube channels are scrolling through tiktok or instagram podcasts, whatever People are really just looking for authenticity Yeah, right They just want someone who's going to be real with them and tell the truth And you might be more partial to maybe someone who's a little rough around the edges might swear Might you know, whatever Or you might be used to maybe you were looking for somebody who's a little bit more positive about each and everything Regardless, everyone's going to find their space. Not everybody needs to be alike Not everybody needs to have the same opinion Not everybody needs to think the same way about a piece of material and it's okay to say you don't like something At the end of the day, everyone should just be honest about how they feel about something and not feel compelled to Oh cushion this or cushion that because of how other people might feel about it The other day if everyone's just honest about how they actually feel about something The the content we get I think will be better because I'll have people's actual opinions to use as feedback instead of the Kind of the the stuff that you see from some people who might be too scared to go one way or the other some people are Things You know what what we're scared to like things because they might be in a community where They don't like that thing and they're scared to put out their real opinion Well, it's no different than like high school or whatever. It's like, I can't like that It's not cool Like I remember star wars wasn't cool when I was growing up dragon balls He was not cool when I was growing up but Like the guys that go to parties and stuff in the 90s 2000s They're not talking about star wars like that would be you know the dudes in the comic shop Or the guys who don't get invited to the parties that talk about it But now it's like, you know so much more mainstream or whatever But you always have to just be true and I think that you know today's world where everything is just so fake and plastic It's just really refreshing to talk to people that don't give a fuck about the narrative And aren't going to put a goddamn muzzle on themselves and pander to one side or the other so that they can make a buck And that's why I'm spending my time with you guys because you guys are real And I think a lot of people in chat notice that and recognize that and If they don't then those aren't the really the people that I care about. So It's all good in the hood, baby. All right, let's do it best dollars movie. What is it? revenge of the sith Well favorite is revenge of the sith best is empire My favorite best would be empire I'm revenge of the sith all day empire Empire is the best but return of the jedi is my favorite. Ah, okay Got an ewok fan That's the only part I watch I skip everything and only watch ewoks Fucking right there. Yeah, nub nub commander A return of the jedi is sick return of the jedi I would say is I always fluctuate between revenge and return of the jedi. Yep Return of the jedi is my second favorite for sure You'll see that the shills they always shit on the prequels and they'll always like give the originals some respect But the one movie they shit on Is return of the jedi Really why never saw this They didn't even talk about the age fans I feel like people don't talk about the original so much at all Uh, right. Well, they'll say like empire new hope is good, but return of the jedi that's low on the rankings It you know, I have watched Uh The stars movie I've watched more than any other is attack of the clones Yeah, I watched that more times and I think it's probably because how old I was when it came out how much I watched when I was a kid Uh, I I watched every single behind the scenes thing and deleted scene for that like over and over and over and over again But I've seen attack of the clones more times in any other star wars movie, which is weird I think uh Think about how excited you were for episode three. I mean that plays a part in it. Do I still remember the trailer? It was on like a disc I got a magazine. That's the first time I saw it. That's like, holy shit I remember yeah, I remember I remember the trailer for episode two When it was coming out and there were like people camping outside of the theaters all over the world And I remember specifically anakin Uh levitating the the ball the sphere thing And like that I was just like You know, uh, yeah Episode two was amazing and so many people shit on episode two as well And it's really sad because there was just so much character development. There were so much story. There was so much building Uh worlds and the jedi and the clonors and everything in there but people just like Skip it because like Dude Oh, dude, when I come across people will like, okay, the sequels might be bad, but they're not prequels bad. I'm like, what are you talking about? Yeah, yeah, that's crazy I think uh, the the one that I've seen the most Is a new hope and hot take I like a new hope better than empire But I think that's because I grew up just watching it like crazy Like I had it on vhs in the early 90s and I would just watch it over and over and it just that's what got me hooked It's perfect because it's just like one encapsulated story, right? That it would have ended there and we never got anything else like you could still just watch that and like be happy for forever Yeah, you're fine Do you even need it exactly? But that's the thing they you know, he continued the story and he had so many different renditions to even before he made a new hope adventures of luke star killer and all that you know like Empire um Probably beaten for me because of the fact that like I think about any moment in that film I'm like, I love that part like all of hoth just fucking adore it Then it's like the all the the asteroid field stuff Obviously introducing yoda as like one of the best Jedi. I was like, oh, I was so interested to think about all the stuff He says about the force and then you know luke invader and best bid I got that um the visuals of that all of that lives in my head forever. It's just The uh the smoke and the this is why by the way, I'm annoyed at like how many times they've used smoke To generate visuals that are like super impressive in the latest stuff because I'm just like Oh, man, I feel like you're dampening every time you bring it up now Like every it's the reason every single time a jedi user or any kind of light saber user of any significance comes in There's always smoke surrounding them now It's like, yeah, I mean it looks real good, you know Is he gonna deny that It was pretty smoky. I guess when luke came in mando season two was hella smoky Yeah, I probably have seen this but at least the robots getting destroyed would lead to some smoke You know, I can like walk through a halloween party right before or something Halloween horror nights Yeah I'm hoping next year for the 25th anniversary of phantom minutes that they put it back in theaters Yep, I would kill to see it in i max and hear duel of the fates on those crazy sound systems That just would be amazing next year if they do that Okay Like it reviews What I think they're funny. Um, and I think there's some points they bring up that are valid I disagree with a lot of them, but I like red letter media. I watch almost everything they put out and I think I probably agree with half their takes Um, but I think they're really good at making making videos on shit If that makes sense, I can appreciate it even if I disagree with their take on the movie I usually start with saying I find them incredibly entertaining Red light media as for whether or not I agree with them on film is like, yeah, it can be 50-50 We covered on eFab their revenge of the Sith video and we disagreed with a shit ton of what What he said But like those videos were so influential to like not only people starting up doing reviews in general But also like the perception of the prequels on the internet To be referenced and shared a lot by a lot of people and it's just interesting to think about in retrospect because The prequels then recovered with like their meme phase For internet stuff and at this point now Whenever you talk to any Star Wars fan, you don't know what you're gonna get. They might hate the prequels. They might love it I think they're fine You know what I don't like is people who have turned the prequels into like, oh, he said the thing Like, you know, actually really give a shit. You're just For the memes. Yeah, you just saw a meme pop up once in a while on instagram. Now you're like, oh, yeah Remember all the minds of like Uh Kenobi and grievous like just like random people standing on shoulders. Yeah waving. Yeah The vines used to go around and I like those Decade ago. I mean how many people Mustafar battled Like the right before the you will try like that whole People will recite that or like it comes down to the meme of like if your girl knows how to recite this with you Then she's a real one and then it'll just be that dialogue I think that yeah The funniest copes from all this is the the prequel status that they have that the sequels will get there one day like No, they won't that it happens. I don't know man That's exactly that's the people do you guys think the hate that the prequels got is gonna be the same thing that happens to the sequels No Is like no culture this this happened from the sequels at all There's like nothing of a footprint even for star wars fans You get the attempts from like, um, you know, there's like what was it called the the thing that got shut down like the star wars Uh trip was like super expensive Yeah, like shoving like oh, you know ray will introduce it and you'll get to meet all these like phasma might be And you're just like why are you even nobody cares about those characters? Nobody cares. That's why I got fired for that shit Hmm I'm sure somebody did man because that was a huge l like why would you make that experience? In between episode eight and nine like the two worst Like movies it blows my mind because if that if that experience would have been like prequels or ot I would have spent that crazy money. I would have been reckless saved up and did it But when I saw it like like the videos when it first came out, I was like, what the hell is this? It looked like fifth element It's just wild how like how inclusive disney claims to be but they alienate Six whole movies worth of fans in their park experiences. Yeah, you know what they can do man They just got to make a statement and they be like, hey look We know that we've made some pretty bold decisions. We've divided a lot of the fandom We're not saying that we agree or we disagree but we recognize and we want to make it right So our next projects are going to be focused on uniting the fandom blah blah blah and bringing all Dude, that's all you got to do. That's all you have to do instead of ignoring every all the people on the other side Which we know which side they really really like cater to Okay, like the person running the twitter for star wars is probably some like 17 year old with blue hair. I bet They just it's not it's not the same company anymore. She's a chiss. Yeah, what if I was to tell you it's like a 40 year old dude who just kind of Likes that kind of culture with blue I wouldn't believe you I think that the idea of them something, you know, I've heard some things Uh, I so anyway, I think that when it comes to like the idea of them putting out a statement like that I think that's there's no way but if they do it through their content Then I think that's That's a reasonable expectation if they start putting stuff together like that um, I think The galactic star cruise hotel Failed on a lot of levels including the way they made it. You got to be here at this time here at this time It's a whole like timed event. Yeah, just do a normal ass hotel Make three different wings of the hotel prequels sequels ot each floor can be a different planet themed a different way You don't you don't have to like reinvent the hotel space like just do do it So when people stay there they're surrounded by star wars stuff That's all they want and maybe have a couple little of these games in different places throughout the hotel But just theme everything star wars in the same way all the other hotels are themed like pixar or animation or whatever People would eat that up. They'd make a crap ton of money But they wanted to know if you did have a prequel sequel ot section like the sequel or just gives bailey any book You should have been able to pick your path of like you live in the ot you live in the prequels Or you live in the sequels and let the people paying for it decide where they want to go Exactly that way too like it gets exclusive of the consumer of like okay If you pick sequels you have to stay in sequels and that means you can't go prequels or ot or if you go ot You can't go sequels or prequels So then the people come back and they pay to get those different experiences every time But instead you just see ray with an inflatable lightsaber Aren't they changing that to a marvel edge was a good idea What that should be fired. Yeah, well they're changing it to a marvel thing now, aren't they? I heard that river. Yeah cruiser hotel or something like that A marvel cruiser hotel. Oh my god, they linked the park with the hotel like this is a big major plan um for this super chat For this super chat the cloners micro series so the 2003 again each krakowski clone war series. Yeah, it's amazing I love the there's a lot of stuff from george around that time too talking about it How they designed it to specifically lead right in a wrench of the sip Yeah, they show how grievous got his cough from mace windu kind of crushing him Uh, they show all the stuff with shock tea They they show why grievous is like intimidating and should be feared Which I feel like he lost out a lot on that in 2008 tc w Where he just kind of turns into another Saturday morning cartoon character that they escape from constantly The way windu was in that show is my favorite interpretation of mace windu. Like that's the best He's like just beating the battle droids with this. He's just punching It's the best. He's flying all over the place with all the battle droids. It's the best and you get to see anakin You get to see anakin actually go through his journey to knighthood. You see him pass his trial. Um, like That is it's a small tide. It's only a couple hours to watch the entire thing But it to me it's a perfect connection for episodes two and three That lightsaber battle between ventris and anakin is one of my favorite lightsaber battles in star wars Like with the the raindrops hitting the lightsaber and the lightning and everything dude. It's awesome. That's best Yeah, I made sure to put that in vader episode three Hell, yeah That was like one of the things that's because there's a part where they all start fighting and there's this Massive opening in the catacombs. It's like a big ass hole And there's just raindropping and it's just silence and all you it's it's like that scene That's awesome. Nice Oh, yeah badass Raina soka are living each other's shadows at some point. Disney has to decide who is going to replace luke's Kind of funny to think about It is actually hey like yeah Bro when feloni like the day after rise of sky walker came out and feloni post that picture of gandalf and asoka and it's like Some people thought I was dead once too because her voice was at the end of rise of sky walker I want to throw up on my mouth um Yeah, I don't know anybody talked to one another for that Like like jj didn't talk to anyone. What was the whole thing with kevin smith being like, yeah, I went backstage and like my mind melted What he's a bitch who cries about everything they every like kevin smith is turned into I don't know if I've heard him really criticize too many like modern day things that are coming out He's turned into a guy that like cries in every movie he watches Like post pictures of himself crying. I don't really understand. It's like I just watched the season seven finale of flash Balling my eyes out. Oh my god. Yeah, one of the yeah I know those people those like influencers who do that shit on instagram or whatever like Literally anything they do or meet like I've been waiting my whole life. It's the best thing to ever happen to me Oh my god, my life's complete Like what about the flash ryan? The cw series Well, he was actually involved with cw. I just made that up that part. Okay Um, I would not be surprised if you found that out But he was actually doing like after the show shows for cw uh air over stuff during that time too But yeah, like everything seemingly he has supposed to picture and cry about Rogue one created a Plot hole for a new hope because vader's interrogation with leo now looks dumb As fucked because he literally watched the plans get transferred onto her ship It's um, yeah, it's not clean I would also I would also argue even Even vader being able to move the way he does just you know Days before we see the way he moves in the fight with obi-wan I would also say the idea that vader didn't just force grab the plans Yep Is I think really supposed to buy that he doesn't see it. He's just killing everyone I think he purposefully let it go because he doesn't want he doesn't like the death star because he felt Intimidated by it because the emperor Liked it. He thought he wanted to be the main power in the galaxy Not a super weapon Don't be so sure of this technological quite a theory instructed. Yeah, and I will say that like leo being like Oh, you know, just a diplomatic ship witchel. It's like you were fucking right next to scariff. What do you do? What do you mean? Bloody wall so when I interviewed gary witta who wrote the screenplay Uh, he actually had vader show up on Scarra on the ground. Yeah beach and yeah, just fuck people up That would have been sick and bust through that door. Yeah vader on south beach. Yeah, that would have been insane to see south Do you imagine It went crazy just got off. I gotta get rid of all of disney canon wipe it clean Speaking of philoni like A lot of people think that it started with disney ruining star wars. You know where it started tcw 2008 Because uh, i'm sure ryan's very familiar with uh clone wars multimedia project Like that shit is canon It's like uh anakin skywalker when was he knighted? That's right. We were just talking about the micro series like after that fight with ventris and passing his trial. Yeah and so He's knighted about like two and a half years after attack of the clones According to tcw. It's like couple months after And then he's getting an apprentice like anakin like, you know, he's a little immature. They're giving him an apprentice Doesn't make much sense And the people over at wukapedia. They're covering it up Because if you look at the timeline They are trying to tell you that tcw And the micro series are in the same timeline and they're not so really The bastardization of star wars where it went to a different timeline is philoni's clone wars tcw And disney canon That all goes together smoothly, but if you try to pretend that tcw Goes together with george's six movies In the expanded universe then the whole canon goes to shit that uh clone wars micro series Or the clone wars multimedia project Like 90 percent of it doesn't make sense anymore So day philoni Sucks ass T canon status to just ignore everything. So I mean the canon like really reset with him I Think he's all we got man. I think we got to keep him. I think he's all we got so it's like that's why I say like You know, we got to get further like no no disney canon. No tcw. Yeah, just go like I would rather And I mean there were some projects after 2008 where it gets complicated because they got a they got to respect tcw is the canon When that's not really the truth the Multimedia project is the true canon It was a shock to the the system when they did tcw and a lot of things started changing There's a lot of authors and people that were Like keepers of the holocronism I got that really had to do a lot of shifting to try to justify some of it There was actually one super interesting explanation. I think in a west end games uh In a west end games journal or something where They viewed tcw as war propaganda from the republic And so that's how they explained away some of the inconsistencies because they pushed it as like war propaganda And if you think of like the way it opens war our heroes are you know what I mean? It's like kind of those old videos that you'd get during wartime So that's how they kind of try to portray which I thought was an interesting way To try to explain some of like the real key core differences between what they decided to do with it Interesting at least So the the really other time that there's a big shift in what people had to do to adjust for canon was when the prequels came along because Up until that point like the bantam novel era um, george Had told people And he he had his plan for the prequels obviously, but he shifted some things around in terms of maybe how old Anakin was going to be the time period that went between original trilogy when the clone wars happened So he told people stay away from these era stay away from these things And then when he eventually did the prequels obviously he picked a lot of stuff He liked from it and he also did some stuff differently But the timelines ended up having to shift a lot for things that had been written before when they referenced the clone wars happening Like 50 years prior because that was the original timeline george had kind of set out is interesting Yeah, there's definitely a lot of inconsistencies, but it's the thing is like we don't have george anymore and Dave is it still has like a he's I think he still calls george. I mean he shows up on sets and shit for asoka and mandos so it's like I imagine he's got to be involved in some capacity It showed up I don't think he had any writing credits on tcw And so I mean like you know when I say like disney star wars isn't star wars like it's literally fake star wars That in along with tcw is like the real canon of the george lucas six movies in the expanded universe And that is the way of the dark side on theory if He's in two of asoka as as much reference to luke as season one does Would you be done with philonia at that point? um Yeah, well, I mean, I definitely flame it for sure But I can't say I'd be done because that would be just ingenious because I know tales of the jedi season two is gonna come out and I'm I'm probably gonna Really enjoy that unless it's gonna be I don't know Covering like ray or something. Oh my god. Don't even say that To piss you off, you know, I mean I hope it's gonna be you know one could be bailing and then the next one could be Man, like why not tales of the sith? Let's just focus. Let's just get you know some other angles here Oh, you know what? I didn't even think of that. What if it's ray? Oh my god training fin Because they do all those training. Okay, then then i'm done tells the new jedi order. Oh my god Tales of gray Skywalker This to me is like some of the most Insulting shit the idea that they took it all from luke. They ripped everything from it and they're giving it all to ray It's so fucking insane Yeah, and they didn't even do it like that's what they're doing But like a lot of people want to pretend that like that's not happening Like the ray movies coming they're gonna fill in the gaps like it's like 10 15 years after They're gonna like have like probably a ray show Oh, she's like she's like hanging out with fin or some shit or like comics The biggest overcorrection is happening. It's like maybe Maybe it won't be addressed in felonies movie because how many years is that before the sequel trilogy? But it's like yeah people just kind of like shut down when they hear ray But they should be shutting down when they hear this is so the bullshit and Oh nando season three I think like to me The way I feel is that if the star wars we're going to get is going to be like it has been I would rather than not put anything out. Yeah, I would rather it they'd stop publishing star wars to the end of time Then continue it to do what I view is like damage to the brand damage to the property The situation we got forced into there are a lot of people settle for is like well We're not getting tlj level of shit. We're getting like a soca levels and it's like I don't want either of them man. I want I want something way way way better something that rises well above the line because I know there there are people here who consider at least the first maybe half of a soca to be strong enough to keep but like I don't know. I kind of hated the whole season just I I did too. I I I was trying to Justify things in my head not justify but like trying to give benefit the doubt And I did a lot of these things I was like well, maybe they might be doing this And maybe they might explain this and why he didn't why you didn't kill Ezra Maybe they'll explain that next episode. Those are the type of like things I was doing To try to like have some good will We don't like but like to me if if Dave Filoni is the tallest midget in the building That's not good enough. You know, um episode one, right? Well, we we meet a soca and she's getting the map I remember thinking to myself immediately like oh, shit. I need to like refresh myself What was this? What was this map? And it's like was a conversation She had with Morgan who directed her to this planet with the map that's going to have the coordinates to the galaxy that Burgles die Which is very likely where they were taken when Ezra I guess activated them. It's like, okay. There's a couple of stretches in there But one of the main things is why did Morgan tell the truth? Why wouldn't she've just told a soca? Oh, it's on planet flim flam. Definitely a hundred percent. Yep Or it is and then secondly even if she did tell her the truth a soca didn't go there straight away We know that So had anyone else gone there bad guy affiliated then they could have gotten the map before a soca did and then I was like Wait, is it a bad guy map or a good guy map or a neutral map? Why is it in like a zelda temple? Who put it there? How did the pergola make that with his fins? You remember that as I like have one fucking scene with a soca in that season I'm already just like none of this makes any fucking sense I'm already completely lost and it's funny because someone was like the map He's on by like the the map stuff from false away because I'm like, why did they do another map thing Why because nobody ever got the answers for the fucking map in tfa like not, you know, not good answers, I guess Now I felt like a large part of this season was rehashed star wars Where felonii plagiarized certain like lines of dialogue inserting them in like uh, you saw that a lot in Episode three where we're restraining sabine. Like that's literally a new hope Yeah, and you even get the the chase sequence with the with the fighter Um, we obviously got very like direct callbacks to phantom menace with shin Um, was it the opening episode or the second episode you guys know what i'm talking about It might have been the second one. Yeah, like dark mall. It's right before she goes to kill sabine the tracker and everything Yeah, oh man. My uh, my memories again. It's like filled all the way through There's at least like a dozen different times where he's where he's done this what um Like I know ryan feels about it But like when uh the opening of a soka where they're like, oh this the ship's coming in with jedi codes We know that they're fucking false. Let him board I know I know Just let him on But again, it was to I think remind you of phantom menace, right? I think they were like Like for sure. I think there were some of that that was cool, but We just watched two false jedi. Whatever the hell they called them Come on board and break out what they call them false jedi in this Um, like the new dark jedi. I guess maybe but then um break out A dathomiri witch who is a political prisoner for who knows how for months at this point All this shit. It's all on camera years. It all happened And you can't send and mill it like you're the governments pretend like nothing's happening Hera can't get any help. Oh, I can't call this person. Are you kidding me? If two jedi showed up on a ship and hijacked this magic bitch that has a Pathway to another galaxy How are you not calling luke skywalker? I don't even know if they can call him ryan I remember he was a fucking phone. We know where he is. I don't know Does he care right? Is he secretly I don't know what they do they just get in touch with the player I want to know what balan skull's plan was in the first episode He sent so be or he sent shin To get the map from asoka Or he sent her to to uh sabine to get the map Hmm but Like like how does that going to work out for them like it worked out in the show But i'm like wondering like what balan was thinking like how is he going to get the map? Yeah, because if asoka was there at the time I didn't want to just ran off I guess But like how does he know that sabine was going to steal the map and then just be like by herself for like a few minutes Slice and dice or not slice and reva her Takes the map because if like she can't handle asoka on her own Definitely can't handle her if uh ray 2.0 is with her. Yeah, so i'm just like wondering like what his plan was If she gets a hold it she gets a hold of sabine like I could see that But what if she doesn't have the map on her? So they got to lure asoka to them Which she can't handle asoka or is she gonna like take sabine back to balans skull And then asoka is going to come to them like he like just said like a couple word store and she left There wasn't much communication there, you know, I blame dave feloni for that Yeah, because what you're describing I feel like what i'm describing whatever one's talking about here is like the minutia of Details that connect everything together and I like I have no faith in feloni's ability to tell stories like this. I see Breaks everywhere loads of these pieces where I'm like, why did that happen? Why did that happen and if someone said to me like ah that's kk Be like I don't know kk cares about whether or not like a particular person can get to a particular place in the right amount of time or You know whether or not a laser has the right power whether or not a door opens in the right way Like this is all nerd shit as far as i'm concerned a lot of it It's like i'm not filled with confidence that dave feloni gives a shit about it either I got another one in episode four Why did shin run away from sabine? So sabine like did the move disarmed her, you know, it's good move But like she runs away from her then and I was wondering like watching like uh, did she get her lightsaber? And I like analyze it and it's like she did get her lightsaber force pulled it to herself And ran away Went back to balan. I'm wondering like why didn't she just finish the job If she was able to get the lightsaber back so easily was that after uh, she fired her missile or whatever she did It's like a wrist rack or something. Yeah, it's a bomb thing Being shot shin in the hand presumably the lightsaber whatever and it knocked it out of your hand But here lightsaber still works, right and she threw down a she threw like a smoke Like screen thing and it's funny because i was watching a az's video on it and he was like Isn't that like doesn't that mean now you have the ultimate advantage the mandalorian can't fucking see you So just tab it Yeah, she didn't have her helmet on at the time, right because they do have hands coming off Helmets and everything And ran away I'm just like why isn't she just like finished the job that entire sequence is like really stupid um because one like Ahsoka Should have stopped and like obviously just taking care of shin. It would have been instantaneous They could have taken care of it would have been over and then stay together like who yang said, you know Maybe you should take the advice of this like 20 000 year old droid. Maybe you should Um, he's seen it all he even fight him. That droid needs to be with luke why the hell isn't it with luke Why is who yang not with luke skywalker the guy who's supposed to be rebuilding the jedi order Because he doesn't matter. He doesn't exist in this universe luke would be like soka thought that one hour of plagiarized star wars episode four new hope training Was enough to overcome the revying in episode one to slice and dice shin the baddie But that's the thing Are you guys noticing kind of this common theme that's happening in each one of these shows and movies that There's a new girl that comes in in each one and she has like a little bit of training or no training But ends up like superseding everybody who's either a legendary character or Already so much stronger at the force and to me. I'm just sitting here. I'm like I don't get it, bro They're not willing to let them not to do a meme here But like they're just not willing to let women fail that that hard I was thinking like what if the payoff was like ezra needed her to force pull him up And she just couldn't do it and he fucking like drops it died I was gonna say like I get it people wouldn't want him dead fine Like he could get crippled you could his legs could be completely broken and then like, you know We get him back. I know I know i'm just trying to find a way not to kill him. Okay, so like It's He gets a rodent treatment when he gets back. Yeah, but like imagine She was so powerful at the end because Dave Filoni likes his strong women You know for a fact they thought like this will solve the people's problem They don't like it when they're powerful for no reason. We've shown this season. She's been trying. That's good enough We've got it now. I've been trying really hard. I think that I'm listening I think that Dave Filoni This is always who he's been. This is not because of some like kk influence or something Look at Dave Filoni that women's conference Trashing fans that didn't like rey making fun of fans that had a problem with a Mary Sue character and saying Oh, you don't like the fact that we had a strong female character. Well, guess what? We're gonna do another and another and another don't like it. Okay, too bad But it's not about that like they they don't get it. It's not like They like to paint so many fans as if they're sexist or racist. It's like stop pulling these cards, man It's so easy to denounce any argument Why pulling these cards? It's like, oh You're sexist. You're racist. Well, no, dude. Maybe you just made a shit character. I had no development whatsoever There was this one time We was fucking insane with someone tried to sell that like people didn't like the seal trilogy because the racism like, you know They don't like a main character being thin or whatever and I was like, don't you try and tell me Possibly one of the most interesting characters from everyone's point of view is one of the ones we didn't like like Everyone's excited to see a defecting stormtrooper who may be force sensitive Already that sounds like super interesting. They ruined them Fucking ryan gave him a terrible set like Paws Awakens. I don't think it serves Finn very well, but you can definitely use what they give you A tlj flattened him. It was useless The pushback to that I hate that because I remember was in all these forums all the facebook all this stuff during the time There was some talk that first trailer when finn popped up, right? There was some talk about finn Being black, but it was because people who were so dumb and ignorant that they thought stormtroopers should still be clones at that time Like those were the people that were asking questions about why is this stormtrooper black because they thought they should be clones Uh, not realizing that and not that way for a long time. It would not be that way in the sequel era Yeah, um, and of course you have like your one or two tweets that you can find of like actual vile stuff Um, other than that they took that narrative of ignorant fans asking why the stormtrooper was black because they didn't know the lore And they tried to turn that into something racist. Yeah. Well, there's always in every fandom every discussion There's always going to be those weirdos who are like Racists and sexists for sure no problem. That's easy to find but My god, you can't pigeon hold that you can't you can't Take you can't take that Bit of data and say that that's all star wars fans in general who don't like ray or whatever Like fucking freddy prince jr. Who is like you don't like ray because they gave millennium falcon to a girl What the fuck kind of narrative are you running dude? Seriously as a position as a person in your position, how can you even say such a thing? It's ridiculous to me how these people run with this shit. Oh freddy prince jr. Also thought that um that Anakin killed all the jedi and there was only two left luk and leah conveniently forgetting that his fucking character was still alive so He also did say that david poloni taught him all about star wars to be fair. So we just got to put that out there I wonder if they're in like bubbles themselves and they only get fed the worst comments from the worst fans So that and then they get told like that reference representative of the people dislike the sequel trilogy that sort of stuff Um That's why I try to like I don't know about you guys But I try to listen to people that I already you know assumes like okay like people who love tlj I was like, all right. I want to hear you out. What is it about that film that's so strong so good But I can try and level it out and make sure I'm not like losing my mind a bit And it's the same thing with them when watching a soka like when we were on efat watching it We're like, all right, this could be great. Give it a shot. Let's go And like you know in the first couple of scenes already like a fuck's sake I don't understand any of this. I know You know what sums up the fandom is um with sabine, you know being ray 2.0 They were setting this up the entire series from like episode 1 And to um episode 3 with her training episode 4 getting some progress And episode 3 they like we're saying sabine can't use the force not force sensitive And um, but you know, I'd be okay If at the end of the series or after a lot of training she can move a cup So a lot of people were just like on that stance But then when episode 8 comes along and she Completely does a ray 2.0 Everyone's just like okay with it and like I love sabine and everything Fucking bullshit People gotta be called out for that shit I I hated what they did to sabine. Um, because she doesn't need the force She doesn't need the force to be an impactful or a cool or unique character It's okay to be a mandalorian Sabine is already to be honest a little bit too much in rebels in terms of She's she can fly. She can fix everything. She creates a machine She's like 15 years old creates a machine that can melt through beskar armor, right? She's like a whiz kid. She's really good at a lot of shit in rebels You don't need to take this character And then also give them the force You don't need to do it. Sex is fine. What about anakin? He made c3 pl I got some bologna bad writing that will blow your mind Ahsoka Stop training sabine Because she was afraid of her potential in the force But who yang said that she has no aptitude for the force would be accepted at the academy So she's literally has no potential But ahsoka is afraid of her potential Well, no, she's not afraid of her potential. She's afraid. Did he say potential? Well, essentially, right? I think The impression I got was that he's afraid. She's afraid of how much angst she has that she's going to just use the dark side Yeah, I mean if she has no aptitude for the force like she won't be powerful So I believe that what ahsoka is getting at was regardless of if sabine can actually tap it and use the force that Evil like people that are doing angry evil things that is still the dark side, right? Um, you might not be able to tap into that side of the force But you are contributing to that in terms of when you're talking about the force being in balance Yeah, that's how that's at least how I saw ahsoka talking about that And I do think there's some interesting stuff you could do with Hey, I'm going to teach you these Jedi techniques to control yourself and things like this without actually being able to tap into the force um I think because I don't know if you have a different thought on this than I do theory Um, obviously, there's the quote out there from like right before empire where george talks about Yeah, the force is like being a Jedi's like karate anybody can train long enough to do it Right, but I feel like he changed his view on that for the prequels and when he like talked about midichlorians and Uh, what is the book? Um God those great books about the the whole all behind the scene stuff and all the interviews Uh for the pre oh the archives books. Yes the archives books There there's a line in there where he specifically talks about There are some people that don't have enough midichlorians to tap into the force I feel like he changed his viewpoint on that from 1980 or whatever till the prequels But there's this video that I made um three months ago And it goes over everything. It's a 10 minute video. It goes over literally everything from that book That I could find regarding george talking about midichlorians in like crazy specific detail So if you guys want to check that out you can but uh This is definitely something that's relevant right now On um, I just wanted to say quick on sabine, uh, we were covering cosmic variety Are and he said the only way that she could be any more of an uh Mary Suez if they gave her the force would use revealing rebels. It's just funny Yeah, also um Don't it chat said it's uh, it's hilarious when talking marvel more than would mention the 2008 riotous strike that ruined wilverine But he won't talk about the riotous strike for marvels Uh, which is so classic. It's just to clear confusion. I thought the x-men origins. Wolverine was bad Bad film I think the marvels is bad bad film the writer strike also didn't impact the marvels I'm pretty sure it was done before because it was done before that. Yeah Oh, congratulations on your Five colors like that's so funny Someone else saying I I I miss what this channel used to be. It's like well the channel's still the exact same I'm just having a discussion with some friends right now. So we I feel like we've done a lot of uh talking about the stuff We'll be putting out three videos on the star wars theory channel tomorrow. It's completely changed. It's over Yeah, I'm sorry But also say as well you don't want a channel to like Day in a particular state despite The environment changing, you know what I mean? And that's the thing people don't really understand and they just like think you're constantly supposed to be making the same sort of stuff It's like well Times change people change the same with anakin. He freaking changed every character in a movie changes Uh, look at our environment star wars has changed so much and I want to be able to talk about it And at the same time I'm still making Comic videos and talking about lore and this and that but to be honest No one really watches those videos I would love to make those videos till the cows come home But to be honest with you I got to pay half a million dollars for vader episode two and another half a million for vader episode three the money just just come out of my ass and I can't be making lore videos. I get like 30 000 views that no one gives a shit about But people constantly want but don't watch so What what do you want me to do here? You know, it's not the same as it used to be people's interest isn't What it used to be with star wars with you know, I remember comic videos I used to make comic videos is get 200 000 views on one video in a single day within a span of like 12 hours Not even and I had maybe a fraction like maybe I don't know 10 to 15 percent of the subscribers I have now It's the general interest the channel fluctuates sometimes I get four to five million views a month Sometimes I get 60 million views a month. It's not necessarily content It's the interest of the overall People and community and that goes hand in hand with disney's competency to make good fucking star wars and if they make good star wars Everyone will do a great job on their channels and everyone will be excited to talk about star wars. You could make You know, it's funny. I released a video about bokeh tan way before bokeh tan was in season two Didn't do very well. I retouched it up remastered it added some more information once bokeh tan was out video did I think half a million views It's just about what is popular and what people care about at the moment. It's no longer about The old star wars lore stuff you'll get that core audience But it's never going to be the same because star wars is extremely diluted and it's become seasonal And if anyone is confused all of us won great stars to come out Yeah, I mean who doesn't No My want Disney star wars Oh, yeah That's the only way I think we'll get better star wars. But with being said, I'm going to look go into everything With with the same openness I would even like something like house of the dragon that I thought I was gonna hate Yeah, and I ended up loving it You know, everyone's gonna go in with your biases. Everyone's gonna go in with what you think you can't really change that Uh, but as long as you're honest about how you actually feel about that thing. That's what's important Exactly and and nobody's honest anymore. It's all about like Being part of a certain political group or if you hang out with this person or that person Then you're vilified as this or that it's like shut the fuck up Why can't we all just talk to people that we want to talk about and have a good discussion about star wars or whatever You know, it's it's become such a weird place on the internet that I hate it I really do I I don't enjoy it anymore because people are just so opinionated and so fake It's like you don't know who is real and who's not and I'm really happy to say that these gentlemen here before me are Very real people and it will tell you what they think and they're not going to be Beating around the bush or lying to you to pander to some sort of corporation or to make a buck You know their word is their bond and I really appreciate that and I respect that and I hope you guys respect that about me too So anyone who doesn't Fuck them. Sorry I don't care There you go. Well said. Yeah. Yeah, what can I add to that? Yeah, so If we can't save star wars, we can damn well sure avenge it That fired me up more than marva's speech at the end or sorry We can avenge it Sorry, sorry, sorry I'll sit on my andor island with a little flag But you know what I will say and or season two I think is going to be absolutely Beast dude, I think yeah crannic vader All the other characters are supposed to come in there k2s So I think it's going to be great as like I feel like and or season one was also like sort of a Not a prologue, but You know season two is where things are going to really pop off. I hope so. I hope we can just seal it off too Um, I used to be a bit upset that it got reduced down I think it was supposed to be it was going to be like potentially five seasons And it got down to two or whatever, but yeah five seasons Well, but like that's too much There's a lot of years a lot of characters and if we did involve All the characters that are actually familiar with star wars and you you could pull it off if it were fucking Something that star wars fans really fucking enjoyed, you know, but in any case I I just want like luthan rail or Whoever pick a character, I just I want this story to kind of stop and finish and then they are sealed away I can't trust disney with any of these fucking people. I already told you guys like, um I liked mon moth more a lot in andal, but when I saw her in a soker it was like it was like weird What are you doing all in this she's completely inept like mon moth was completely fucking useless And I will say this in order to lead up to what we have in the sequels You need to have a government of bureaucracy where we can see why there's faults We can see like the inefficiencies of it Understand how they would let The first order like do all this stuff. So I understand that and I'm totally good with that It was just so cartoonishly stupid Like dad just like the one bad guy who's like, I don't believe anything you say You know Evidence of all this She said I'm not disagreeing with the council's decision. I'm disagreeing with yours. I was like the council made the decision It wasn't just him And then her face is no punishment because she's just a bad ass woman About how uh palpatine manages to manipulate Essentially politics to rise to the ranks and get what he wants all this stuff and then show me the good guys doing it in a soker Manipulating politics to get what they want despite the fact that it goes against the laws they fucking have Burjury is a huge deal. He just like fuck it, but it's the good guys who cares. It's like, oh guys We doing well Can I pitch a question to the group? Of course do it if Palpatine returned like he did in dark empire Would it have been received better than him returning? Obviously Obviously just take Rise of Skywalker as a single thing like without being set up the way it did But if the whole point was that palpatine was going to return if it was set up like dark empire Would it have been better or worse? which was um I I think it would have been received a little better However, there's still a lot of criticism over that in general that that that's a very divisive storyline from the EU Um, but there's a couple differences one. It's like extremely clear That it's a clone body and it's a young It's a young palpatine who had been like preparing all these clones for his essence transfer not a I don't even understand if this is a clone or if this is just an old palpatine who survived, right? Yeah, I mean it's still debated to this day. What the fuck palpatine even is in rises rise of Uh, I think he's a clone. Doesn't it say that in the um, it was one of those in the book Well, one of my favorite conversations red light media ever had was they fight for a like a good 20 minutes over what he is Because He's like one of the mechanical things at the hall of presidents He's like that's the body, but he's also a robot and it's skin Who knows The problem of episode nine is they didn't reveal how he actually Um is alive It just brushed over you're supposed to accept it And so like going into episode nine like i'm still like hoping i'm still trying to give it a chance Like i'm because i'm remembering the prequels And like how everyone hated like the first two episodes And so i'm thinking like just don't have palpatine go out like a total bitch And what what happens it goes out like a total bitch And with some of the worst dialogue in style was I am all the sith. I am all the jedi You guys saw the matt smith stuff, right? Yeah, the Wasn't it really multi as well? He was supposed to be you were supposed to have like a major scene Yeah, it was a lot of speculation that he was like the sun or this or that like a young palpatine young palpatine. Yeah Okay, like a vest a vessel for his body. Yeah, like he was supposed to be full powered young like just Just like dark empire. Yeah There's a there's a lot that they like Rip from dark empire in rise of skywalker. Yeah Like the storm that he creates like for the fleet like uh all that shit. There's a lot that they rip off But I will say One of the obviously any time you bring the emperor back you feel like you're undoing what anakin did. Yes. Yep Which is a problem One of the things I think that made it a little more stomachable in dark empire was that It's luke who is the one who defeats him and like luke is truly tested luke like Falls to the dark side briefly in that. Yeah, like because he's Essentially luke is trying to pretend that he's turned to the dark side in order to Like pretend that he's his apprentice to get close to him and find out what he's doing But really he gets way too close and ends up being lea Who's able like the love of lea was able to really draw him back at the end and then Uh fucking palpatine tries to force essence transfer into little baby anakin. I don't know that'd be kind of weird Palpatine just in a little baby's body in lea. I don't have that But that was that storyline But there was it was like was luke coming like full circle doing it himself Defeating the emperor once and for all. Yeah, which feels a little more rewarding than re Isn't luke wearing vaders like suit for some of that or like it's a version of vader suit or whatever it is Um, I don't like that Or it's supposed to be like reminiscent of it with the big He's very late runner cape and all that. Yeah, he's wearing black like when he does it I don't know if it's specifically something from vader. I'm gonna pop this up because I'm gonna make a good clip out of it Um, it's gonna address this real quick because I see a lot of this and I'm sure a lot of you guys might see it too for yourselves I don't really know but um People say, you know theory all you do now is complain about everything star wars So why have a channel on star wars anymore? I honestly used to love your videos too And to that I say, you know I would say my love for star wars is probably transcended even what it was when I was a little kid and the reason I speak so candidly about star wars today is because I feel it's not where it needs to be And because it's completely deviated from the story that it used to be and from the creator who created it So My love for star wars is always there and it's always going to be there And I'm always going to speak my mind and if you Don't want me to protect star wars and don't want to defend star wars Then I guess, you know, there are many other channels that you can go to which will shill for the new star wars that you may enjoy Uh, that being said, there are still a lot of things I do like about star wars that's releasing here and there but I'm always going to speak my mind and That's my views on that and if you don't like it, then I wish you the best may the force be with you Um, yeah, thanks for watching having watched at some point I was saying in your defense, you don't complain about everything star wars. You praise a hell of a lot of what exists of Our star wars. It's more so present star wars that they could say but at the same time Why would they want you to lie? That's the thing is a three channel called star wars explained That if you want to watch some two NPCs We're not gonna give we're not gonna give me plugs or any shout outs to any of those those guys But you know, it's it's that's the thing. I don't get it's like It's a very good question. Why do people want me to lie? I don't also like So you you've been sitting here me and mauler obviously Really hate this shit right um And you we've been talking about it, but you've also like pushed back and continued to say that you like this You like that, you know, even when we're providing our criticisms So I don't think you're really complaining. You're complaining about things you deserve to complain about you're also Standing behind people that I don't think should be stood behind You're standing behind Dave Floney for the future of star wars. Yeah, like defending him. So I don't know why I don't get that but that's what you want and that's you know what I mean So I don't know I think that there's so much potential there for him to really Exercise and flex what George taught him all those years and I think that's You know, it's kind of he's kind of like George's son in a weird way and I think that Dave kind of sees that and I don't think there's ever going to be anybody else Who will have that close of a relationship personally with George? Uh, even if you know, you bring in Whoever I don't even think sam lovers had that relationship with George I don't curiosity then and this is a tragedy and I would never like any Lucas in any way ship of form But if we lost both of them Who would you like if you were God put in that position? If we lost George and Floney, yeah, let's say they they've decided to go and they're like fuck star wars. You know, let's I wasn't gonna go dock with it, but it was like, let's just Get by a van or something It is not lost and we didn't have any tracking fobs to find them knock on wood walking around the wood Knock on wood. Absolutely. Let's just say they take a tropical vacation somewhere and they're like, we're done. We retire. Um Who would I put on? Yeah On JJ, right? Me There you go. You could trust yourself. Yeah, um, that's what I would do. I put people on twitter like this All the star wars you don't for it. I'm gonna monetize now. So please tag me. Give me a tag So I I think that I sam whit were Uh, I would bring you on I would bring on mauler I'd bring on, um To be honest that really I could fuck. I know I could carry this shit on my own Um, but I would want you guys to come in there so that it won't be Too fan fictiony people would say and you know, and it's always better to have, you know Two heads are definitely better than one. I think so I would love to have you guys on and Uh sam whit were I think would be probably the first person I'd call But besides that, um Obviously mic zero. Have you seen these channels taking a complete change? Like he's he's anything I do. He copies me It's a daddy just like makes up some like random stuff They like see me getting good views on snow white stuff And then all of a sudden he's a rachel zeigler channel But it's like she went to turkey and it was part of like an insurrection here Like it's like the most outlandish rachel zeigler stories Let's see this too So mic zero and I star wars exclusive channel Dude, he's killing it. It's not future star wars content. It's it's future updates He did better views than me this last month What do you get six million seven point three eight? God beat me too. He's killing it down to like six last month. Yeah. Yeah, you guys chill out Just wait till star wars project comes out and daddy's gonna be back on top. Okay, but right now it's my only game slow time, okay But he's killing it dude. Look at him. It's like it's 48k How do you remember when mic had the old stuff like still public on his channel like The weird skits he would do like rubber chickens in his pool and everything. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah That channel changed a lot man. Me and mic used to be he was like the first dude that befriended me We started out as enemies when my channel started popping off and then And then I talked to him and then we like became friends. We would FaceTime We'd hook and we'd hang out like online. We talked to each other all the time and then uh, I don't know just we've been our separate ways and we'd stop talking like five years ago six years ago He hasn't talked to anybody now. No This is his own thing. Yeah You gotta respect it finds random thumbnail Random thumb drives of plot leaks and the lucas film parking lot You know what man? He's killing it. I mean he's got this that's It's eight million views a month is that's a very respectable amount of views I'm trying to get back there What are you at? Our last month was like six Which I do I 12 million views or 13 million views in like may or so august or something's wild. It's amazing. Are you in google preferred? What's that? The ads are you in google preferred ads so google prefers your channel It gives you like first dibs on the highest paying ads I don't know. I don't even really look too much of my adsense. Although I doubt I would be considering I didn't know that was a thing Yeah, yeah, I've never heard of fancy guys very difficult to get into Yeah to be in like a very good standing for many years Uh, I am in a I'm gonna find standing, but I don't think my content would necessarily maybe go towards that I swear a lot You're under entertainment. You're fine Yeah Oh, that's cool. That's awesome. I just don't ask his opinions on the batman Yeah, I gave it eight out of ten Did you? Yes, there's a thing. Oh my gosh, dude that video went viral I I like the batman, but I Basically in the middle of my like 15 minute review. I talked about Uh, how you know, they had raced throughout the couple of the characters and it was like it seemed like The it seemed like the characters they raced off some characters and every person of color seemed like a very good person Like uh in the movie and I was like, I just noticed it It didn't like really, you know, it didn't ruin the movie or anything I just noticed and it seemed kind of on the nose for current day. Hollywood. That's all I said And I gave the movie an eight out of ten and I talked about how much I liked the movie That like 15 or 30 seconds gets clipped And gets put out there that thing went viral like young turks were talking about it Philip DeFranco's like a racist youtuber said he didn't like a batman because and I'm like First of all didn't like that straight. I liked the batman. Holy fuck. All right. Oh my god. Holy shit. Really? I didn't know this All because I liked the the the batman But I I still get slander to this day. This is the guy who didn't like the batman because it had too many black people There were people in tonight's stream. They were like, oh no, do you hate mexicans 2 theory? I'm like what what? Well, that has to do with my blue beetle review. Yeah They were saying like, oh, do you fucking hate mexicans 2? I guess. I'm like, what are you talking about? Shit, yeah, that's because we didn't like blue beetle and uh video got clipped on tiktok and went viral because we didn't like beetle These clips these things happen these things have fucking clips these kids with these clips They they find the they know what they're doing. They find the perfect moment Clip it out and they like completely that Yeah, anyway, and I ought to be fair I'm pretty sure I had I like my beard was longer. I'm pretty sure I had a hat on I probably looked kind of racist sitting in my car doing a batman review Like I've had the look, you know, I mean of like all I needed was glasses and it would be like a mag of reply guy meme um, but But I still like want to protest because I did like the batman for the record. You liked him more than I did Mm-hmm. I had to fight people about it You had to fight to prove you like I'm fighting Defending the what I like that. I like the batman while I'm getting canceled for not liking the batman Didn't shit from both sides. Okay, where is it? Oh You up up a little bit Up a little bit right there our capitals live one year ago. Yeah, that's it Look at the ratio. I gotta tell you right now. Um, I've never told you this for every time I watch your videos your intro song is It always reminds me of the old rich piana mutant videos Really seen those? I don't think so I like that intro. I just found like some really stupid royalty-free like Trap music or something. I was like, it's cool. No, I gotta show you this real quick. Uh I used to watch this when I was like 18. It was the intro song. It was like, I get here Oh, no, it's not this one There's a little bit of similarity to it. I can hear it a little bit It was it was a trap version of it. It was right Anyways, I'll have to send it to you but So go to most replayed you'll probably uh All these words that hit right there people were, you know, you had jim gordon Like all good people Were really the three other major players that I would consider like overall like moral good people Were, you know, you had jim gordon was black You had that woman who's not white in this and then you had the mayor who's a black woman Again very much on the nose for current day, hollywood did not like that took a couple took a little bit That's it off the score for me to be honest. That is it That's the clip right there that went viral and then my experience with it is an 8 out of 10 I know they do the shit they're smart They know what gets views and then they just like spin this whole narrative about you I'm sorry that happened dude. That's actually hilarious That's like the that's like the most you have ever got and it was for a It was for a video on my second channel That it was so pointy. I mean I gained like a shit ton of subs from it, but it was just wild there. I'll help you Thank you I can't wait to see his black adam review someone said I think I liked it. Oh, no, I didn't I should have Oh God That's rough, dude But the average wash time on that thing got way down because people were just like coming there and hitting just like and saying Racist piece of shit. Oh geez. That's all right though Whatever dude Whatever people always try to spin you certainly But I'm looking forward to the batman too I hated I didn't like the ending like that the more I think about the movie the ending Went on for too long. It was a little messy, but I still really liked the overall feel of the movie When you're funny except except for the black people, right? Obviously Like the damage did not like that fucking racist We're talking about the damage done to the whole these different franchises. Like should we even mention dc? Who was very publicly like flop flop flop flop complete reset? Please we're trying desperately to make this work. Like and they're still releasing that aquaman movie. Yeah Oh god Christmas Yeah, great. That's the christmas movie this year aquaman too. Mm-hmm electric boogaloo It's like bro I think that We were trying to take bets what would make less the marvels or aquaman And I think I said I thought the the marvels would make more. I might be regretting saying Yeah, I think the marvels would be less because aquaman people might just see it just for christmas with family Just to see something. Yeah, I thought the marvels would be like 350. Oh, he's not asleep What's up, gary? Hey gary? He's awake Right after someone said he's old. He's asleep It could be you could be in bed. I saw your your clip today on twitter with the uh Your studio man Oh, did you do like a room tour? Yeah, it was like a room tour And you got to see everything look good It's got so much crap in there. It makes sense if you have um You literally like own the comic store. Oh, yeah Gary's like probably like it's probably like 10 of what he had not even I don't I don't have very much shit at this new setup Even all my books and everything are all packed away still Yeah I was thinking I could go with like a massively cluttered Kind of look but and I'm like Keep it clean. I don't know. Yeah, I don't know sometimes I want to do that but Look at this. Hold on. Look at this. Uh bottle. I got sense. Let me send me this Look at this freaking whiskey with a derringer pistol as a cork. That's cool Pretty badass. What is that wild? What brand is that? It's called h derringer bourbon Pretty cool. It doesn't work. It's like he's not real Don't don't strike us youtube Yeah, man, youtube's guidelines are just getting crazy and crazy like I don't even know what I can or can't say anymore You guys get uh yellow flags on your screens A lot. Yeah, no like limited monetization Yeah, I either get red or green We swear a lot on if I really Yeah, um A decent amount it also depends on the topic too um The topics about something a little bit spicier sometimes it will not super often Based on the people you talk about though melvin, um, I can see why you would end up getting yellow flagged Ever since I've been getting yellow flagged like on all the streams ever since they enabled the ads like within the stream I don't know if you guys enable that they stopped yellow flagging me Really bastards? I only get it from music But then again, I don't really I'm very I'm very careful things I say Yeah, you yeah, you're just getting copyright. You're not getting uh, yeah, I get copyrighted limited ads because of uh policy violation or something You know I get copyrighted, but the ads remain They stay there for the uh, they'll go into escrow like I do that like all the time with my shit I win like at least like 90 percent of the time because they don't answer within 30 days Hmm. I don't even dispute it anymore, man just whatever Go ahead Is what it is I don't know. I I I'm kind of wanting to lead in more towards live streaming soon anyways I enjoy that only Hmm Uh, no like I'll still make my content and stuff, but I don't know dude. Just seems more fun to be honest live streams on uh, Cobra Kai No, I I still enjoy making my Cobra Kai videos. You did a stars old republic stream the other night, right? Yeah, that was fun. I love that game, dude. Yeah, what's your favorite? Uh, what's your favorite play through like in terms of character wise? Oh dude, I'm new to it Oh, really? Yeah, dude. I didn't get to play that when I was a kid There was a holy shit monthly membership There are some good ones. I think I think the jedi night to me jedi night is kind of spiritually co-tour three um The imperial agent storyline is amazing Is probably the best storyline of any of the classes out there. Really? Um, syth warrior Is okay, uh the syth what do they call it Assasin or whatever it is assassin, maybe whatever the the other syth one is that one is better. I think um, although you do get to You get to fuck some hot chicks as a syth warrior. That's pretty cool. Um Just saying, um You find this like jedi you like you're supposed to go hunt down this jedi and killer and you end up like Turn to the dark side and fucking her. So that's pretty cool. Um Yeah, bounty hunter is awesome. That's a great game, dude. I you got to get into that. It's fun to play with a bunch of people I'm standing now in yellow Fucking Dave's not a bad kid. He's makes bad decisions flow I'm waiting for them good decisions. I guess Uh, big super chat from taylor. Thank you, man. I saw that earlier. Appreciate it Uh, you guys are are haters who like alcoholic scotsman Ah, I agree. I think it's pretty good that picture with you Who's that? That's critical drinker on the left. Yeah Is it? Yeah, yeah Look at him with an astromo shit Um Can we talk about how little writers have done with so much time? Disney scripts have been super inefficient Yeah, I mean take a look at the sequels. I don't think Disney knows how to do um series The disney plus series across the board for marvel and star wars all have very similar problems It's like they have a core concept of what they want to do that would make a nice 90 hundred minute movie. Yeah, but then the mandate is to stretch it out to six to eight episodes They always they always struggle and it it just doesn't feel right the endings don't work Whereas when you look at what HBO does HBO is full of people whether it's writers filmmakers everything they're that have been working on tv for a long time or experience with what they're doing Hey, every episode is going to be about the same length um, they have a an actual Every episode is satisfying yet also leads into the next thing HBO in my opinion does it right when it comes to like house the dragon or even a lot of praise for last of us out there From some people too. I didn't watch it I I didn't watch it either, uh, but I've heard a lot of good things about it I have no interest after what they did the franchise though. It's same Same dude. Oh, well another franchise that's up in flames What more like I don't know if it's up in flames, but it went down with a seven iron to the face Yeah, yeah, that'll be more accurate. They're doing season two now. So they're gonna have to Deal with the wrath of people after watching the show. Very curious if they're going to ate They can claim all day that they won't but I'm not sure when bush comes to shove that they'll be like A little different this time. They have to bro. They have to go through Pedro Pascal is going to bring his helmet his mandalorian helmet to work that day Yeah, no, right Dung Yeah, I showed you some concept art for episode three, but um Yeah, I'm kind of Not bumped out, but also, you know, it increases the anticipation in episode two But then episode three is where like a lot of the the juice happens and it all comes full circle So yeah, it's gonna be ways away, but episode two probably 2024 So three hopefully the year after but we'll see what happens Yeah, voice probe generates words and connects afterwards humans make sounds and transition when initiating words to not make it sound unnatural Yeah, I hope it generates a stick stikado sound Yeah, I hope that they can just get maybe a vader voice actor going forwards. I don't think ai is the best way to go for it Do you guys think if in this air to the empire movie If it happens say like it happens and they get the gang back together for probably like a five minute thing Do you think it should recast actors or CGI people? CGI I wouldn't mind recast because I want to see luke in more scenes that aren't like In the dark and smoke, especially if it's going to be for a whole movie Yeah, recast for me if they go the luke route. Yeah, I don't it I just feel like the CGI stuff is so limiting at times like the stuff in Bookaboa fett where it's like the back of his head for a lot of it where he's running around in the action parts If i'm gonna go see Luke Skywalker be luke Skywalker on scene I don't want him to be wearing a hood and hiding behind things to and the only thing that I know It's it's a green lightsaber, you know what I mean? I want to see him And as long as I believe it's him that's kind of my thing I think they can do it I I think that if it's uh If it's literally just like a cameo thing and they show up for a few minutes I guess you could get away with CGI Yeah, but but I think that I don't think they should do this I think they should stay away from telling stories with these characters after everything they've done and mismanaged But if you were to do it, I think you should just recast Um, so you can have the flexibility to actually do things with them instead of being so limited And you can actually have them be the heroes and you know do all the shit um I the guy who played luke as the stand-in in bookaboa fett I forget his name. He looks so much like marg hamel did Yeah, yeah Put him in there. Now. I guess I don't know what his voice is like or anything. So But they did the voice ai as well, so They did yeah It would be even more weird if uh If they recast them, but then used ai voice overs And ryan, are you the one that cries about race swapping characters? I don't know if I cry about it, but we just watched a video. So yeah Love it when these people fucking always just say if you have enough opinion about something, you're crying about it I'm in tears over it, man. Yeah Stereically crying. They did pay five bucks to say that though For like why? I had the chance to meet sam witt were at comic con He's super humble and passionate you and an eon was charging 500 for an autograph and picture Sam only charged 65 made it possible for my little brother and I to meet him Yeah, sam's a nice guy, but at the same time, you know, I kind of also got to understand like star level Ewan is on a completely different level than sam witt were And also you and probably has so many more people to pay But yeah, it is much more affordable I don't I don't think you and sitting there like i'm gonna take 500. These guys. I don't need money anymore at this point, but I think, you know you and an eon mcdonald getting a photo with you and an eon mcdermas is Completely different than sam witt were and that's not to take anything away from sam But I mean it's the fucking emperor and obi-wan can obi I think sam witt were would say the same thing though. He would Yeah, and it's a you know voice actor versus, you know live action actor Um, but obviously same as in a lot of different characters as well um You know a lot of characters that people care about Yeah, I'm sure I'm sure there's people that go talk about gail and merrick. I'm sure there's people that go to talk about mall You know what I mean? So yeah, no, yeah, no, absolutely. Um, but I think that's for you and and probably together Because I remember hayden. Oh, yeah Hayden and eon together was I think like Two or three hundred dollars So I don't really see that being them individually, but Maybe we're in covid where people pay and like five hundred dollars get a picture of somebody and Not only does everybody have to wear masks, but there's like a plastic in between you and you're like streams terrible Yeah, that's a cardboard cut out. Yeah I usually like the streams of tonight has been pretty toxic in the chat There are some people in the chat have been bullying me and calling me names. I'm sorry about that, but Just telling the fuck off Sorry to hear that mariana. Yeah There's always gonna be those kind of people man. I you know, I go on twitter. I'm just like, no There's been a couple people calling me names in the chat too Oh, come on. I didn't see that They should be allowed to pull up Pull an adam driver. Okay. Fuck you. Yeah, yeah I gotta deal with these things and you know tell someone that you'll they'll think you're insensitive or whatever, but honestly like Just take a page out of my book, man Every time I get a cry baby in the chat someone is uh, notifies me to chill in the chat Yeah Now we love you mariana, so it's all good Uh, what if George didn't do the clone wars instead does a post return of the jedi animated series to build up to a prequel trilogy Yeah, I mean Animated has so much more leeway So I always In my head, um, I would have loved A new jedi order not this new bullshit, but an nj. Oh expanded universe nj. Oh Um, you know yuzong vong invasion I would have loved to see that as a clone wars style animation Um, because I don't think you could do something like I think it would be really hard to do something like that justice live action Based on the almost kind of anime style nature of like the ferocity of the yuzong vong villains And how expensive it would be with all the jedi like I just think it'd be so crazy and I think you could do it animated Uh and tell the story in a great way Yeah, you could And we almost saw the yuzong vong in clone wars They're supposed to be in that thing too ryan. Let me ask some if dave was it was going to do everything animated Do you think you would be more supportive of that? I think that he is better at it with animation I think his style of storytelling fits animation better. Yeah, um, even if I disagree with it Uh, or even if I don't like it like stick rebels for instance I'm not a big rebels fan, but I know there's a lot of people it really connects with I've sat on the couch with people who freaking like love when they see chopper and cane it You know what I mean? Like I could see like the love that people have for that even though I don't super connect to it. Right. Um, and I think that's where felonies that is best I disagree with what he decided to do in clone wars wholeheartedly There's some clone arcs that I'm a big fan of and stuff like that But overall I don't like a soka the character like a soka is my main problem coming out of clone wars along with a lot of the decisions to Do other things Just for the sake of it rather than staying in continuity But I support dave doing more animated stuff. I don't think he's well suited for live action I definitely think it's animated stuff is much better than his live action for sure I remember when a soka was coming out and like in the clone wars And I was like Anakin has an apprentice and I was just a teenager. I'm like, yeah Stupid I really like that but then over time, you know grew on me. I guess so I was there right I was right there with you too Yeah, it's just a smaller it really just is a small and more niche audience as well and I think we we kind of saw that with a soak I was really wondering what kind of numbers a soak would pull ratings wise I was kind of shocked. It was at the same level of andor. Yeah But but I also made the statement. I said, I don't know how popular character a soka really is outside of the hardcore fan base in terms of the general public um when you look at Say bad bad bad batch certainly isn't like a tcw season seven level of like ratings or people tuning in But bad batch season two when you look at the samba tv numbers that one million number whatever it was for a soka household The first six days, you know, it was for bad batch season two premiere. No Like 72 000 Nobody's watching though, right? So it's like it's a much more niche audience when it comes to that stuff Which is something I think we have to be aware of when we're like me as an expanded universe fan I know that I was not there was not a lot of mother fuckers out there That were sitting there buying fade of the jedi in 2009 Like sitting there getting every hard cover as it was coming out falling along to that story I know i'm in the minority Well, you know, I think sometimes it's you got to acknowledge where you're at where everybody else is at clearly a soka The name didn't pop or resonate with a lot of people like some people expected it would We can even see that with youtube videos, too It's like when you if you cover let's say bad batch breakdown Looks like a fraction of what a mandalorian breakdown would be Yeah Or you know, same goes for like clips and reels and content It you can see that across the board It's not just you know some people say oh these samba's are rigged or whatever. Well, no look at the interest overall online It's just not there for certain things in comparison to other things tales of the jedi Wasn't really there, but fuck among core fans. Holy shit. Yeah, it was amazing The best thing you've ever gotten I think You think so I think so. Yeah better in season seven You kind of put that into the categories and said some of it started before the last four episodes Hmm No, those last four episodes. I don't think can yeah, you know, you're right But it's like if you look at season seven, you'll also go to like group it with the martes sisters Artes Nightmare, uh, but yeah, no, I mean Fucked I mean tales was amazing I'm I didn't I'm not even think I'm not thinking of the isoka stuff. I'm thinking of the the duku. What did you think about them? well, obviously like A lot of stuff isn't can anymore, but what did you think about them shifting the timeline for duku? Um away from what was what happened establish and play guess what kind of has been except to going forward um in terms of uh him working with citys and I know uh the syphidia stuff deleting camino from the archives because they they shifted that timeline significantly to do what they did in his Uh, Sith lord tales episode where yaddle those girl boss Yeah, yeah, uh I mean look, I'm always gonna preference uh legends Because that was made during the time when george owned lucas film So it's always that's always, you know takes precedent, but um Yeah, that's my answer. I mean I prefer I prefer the other way obviously. Yeah, because like What I what I enjoyed uh play guess is for people that haven't read play guess you got to fucking read play guess What are you doing if you haven't? But um one of the awesome things about play guess to me was showing the little snippets we got of duku And how palpatine was kind of able to manipulate him But the real thing that and it makes sense the real thing that sent duku Over the edge to where he could be swayed that way Was the death of quigon. Yeah, um and in tales They show that He's already working with city is he's already doing a bunch of stuff. He's uh, probably it's maybe already killed syphidias by this point in time Yeah, and has deleted the records of kamino in the archives And that is when jackaustin knew I think tells him maybe that like quigon died And then he goes to visit I think I might be getting my stuff messed up, but then he goes to visit city is yaddle follows him They have their duel died. It was the day of quigon's funeral Okay, Ryan kennel clearly not a star wars fan He He was looking at the tree and then yaddle comes behind him and she starts talking to him um And then she follows him because he goes to the works, which is like, you know We were palpatine fucking train mall and and duku in secret and then If I Know that yeah, that was the one thing that really stood out was like he They established that he was clearly working informed before quigon's death. Yeah, that he knew which was like shocking to me Yeah, um, I also didn't I didn't like that quigon saw duku force choke like that um, and obviously quigon saved the kid and the senator um, I didn't like that quigon witnessed that Really and didn't like Tell anybody I guess it seemed pretty extreme. Do you know what I mean? Like the the fact that quigon saw that and I they didn't really establish how old he was so i'm not sure but um There's a lot of tales that is really cool and I think the animation levels that they've achieved in it are fucking wild Yeah, um, yeah, they're so good and I think a lot of the soundtracks surrounding it as well Is solid as hell um, the isoka stuff not a big isoka fan why the Did they did they or did they not throw kanan in there in the isoka training scene? Yeah, yeah, I don't you got to do that shit man Stop put your characters everywhere. Just fucking do your thing. Yeah, um but Yeah, I don't they also didn't they give her uh the ability to talk to animals in that opening They did they kind of established that she gets that the whale so they can establish the whale thing Yes, and now isoka also has psychometry. Yeah, I know she gets every fucking power, bro And she comes back to life three times Which that that to me is the weirdest is is the coming back to life And the uh being pulled out of the world between worlds that to me is just like Okay, uh, all right, let's go with it. She's a god. Okay fine Are you guys on the world between worlds like? I didn't like I mean, I don't fucking hate it I don't like time travel in Star Wars man Baller you have have you seen the rebels episodes? I was given context before The episode that was going to be addressing it so that I could understand it and I could be honest with you Fucking watching it didn't help I'm simply understanding what the hell is going on It's the way Dave has explained it It's it's a place that isn't time travel even though it fucking is And literally pull people out of like story lines and save them And I mean what the and the whole argument about isoka Not coming up during the time when the empire was prevalent with vader and and the emperor and luke Is because she was told that she has to lay low because in that timeline. She was supposed to die and not be around So the whole thing was she was supposed to hide Until she comes out at some undisclosed time It's like right and so the idea of the world between worlds is essentially It's a place where everything echoes you can hear echoes from every event in star wars that is like Time altering or something like that. Is it usually hear things that are important to you? Any assumption that this is just a writer's tool to escape foreigners that they've written themselves into? I honestly I yeah, I don't like I'm not a fan of it. I don't I didn't like end game solely for the reason of time travel I think time travel only should exist in like hot tub time machine or you know comedies and stuff like back to the future It just really detracts from any sort of important moment in a storyline when you have uh Time travel because it's like well Whatever happens next if it's really bad. We'll just you know, we'll do the time travel thing and we'll fix it It's like well now we can't do that You know, so it's and and ezra contemplating going in and trying to save kanan or whatever and she's like no You can't do it. You'll change the future, but it's like what did you just do? You literally just did that who do you talking about but that's a woman It's okay. Yeah, I guess it's okay But that's why palptin was trying to get in there too, right? Because if he had control of that man, you could do everything I was gonna say surely anybody would get in there could Fuck with like the entire timeline literally everything dude. Yeah exactly I I don't like it. Um, I think that It is being kept very intentionally ambiguous All the rules surrounding it what it really is. I think it's strategic because Then you don't really have to answer anything necessarily. Yeah, and you're not held to anything Right, um, which I think that's a good strategy If you don't want to be held to answer those questions and still have this mystery of what are you going to do with it? Right the bigger mystery to me going forward is a world between worlds. It's What are they going to do? more to scots wise and Is it like What are what are they going to do like are they going to? If he brings an Anakin back In his spirit realm to like act as the father or something I am going to hate that dude I am going to despise that I'm kind of I kind of don't like the idea of the mortis gods in general because the way I had always heard george talk about the force was Balance is not the typical like judge like person sitting there judging people balance balance is the absence of darkness And the father's entire role was not to keep darkness absent It was to maintain a balance between the son and the daughter which is light and dark Which to me is the antithesis of the way george has described the force So I I didn't really like that But the way the jet I saw balance was just like well balance is like there's no bad guys Well, yeah, not really balance think about it It's not but that when I heard when I heard george talk about it even there's a video somewhere of george with dav right next to him taking notes uh Talking specifically about that and talking about what he means by balance I think we'll use the clip of that, don't you? What would say that again? Sorry of george talking about Balance and the force and dav taking notes Yeah, yeah. Yeah, there's um, it's a behind-the-scenes thing. Um, I think it's from clone wars behind the scenes And he's like he's standing over a table and he's like at the head of the table explaining what balance of the force is And it's a panel of all the clone wars writers or the people who worked on the clone wars Everybody's just jotting down notes. Yeah. Yeah. Well, it has a clip of everything No, it's literally Oh, I actually was uh, just about to I was editing something today because we were talking about it earlier with the uh The whole ray and riva of it all. Um, what's the actor's name who plays karsen tiva? Um, I forget I don't know. You mean the guy who's in like literally everything now. Yeah Yeah, x-wing pilot um I uh, I clipped up Something where he's talking about kelly marie tram rose tika um And it's tika like him saying isn't that her last name rose tika tico tico Can I buy a vowel? jeezo peed You're Because you make me think I curry If she was Hispanic, it would be the difference between man and woman How do you know? Yeah, what do you go against? What do you go against latin people know? Yeah, come on. Well, cancel Sorry, sorry Sorry, I love latinans. Where'd melvin go melvin defend me He'll just make it worse. I know. Yeah That'll be fine. All the eyes will be directed at melvin He's back melvin's already taken his place in In the realm. They know where he stands. They just let him through it's funny It's like if if your scene is like you oh, this is how you are. Oh, yeah, we don't even look at you anymore But I don't know it's weird It's like you almost have to earn that Earn that badge we could please continue I don't even remember what the fuck I was saying. I'm rose tika Yeah tika masala I was gonna I'm just gonna post the clip and then I'm gonna send it to you guys And I want to know what you guys think about it because it's it's very pertinent to what we were talking about earlier with Yeah, hold on let me post it first because I would do it before this Then We can talk about other shit. Sorry I do I was actually gonna say uh, since we've almost hit four hours. I'm probably gonna head out Yeah, I think it's like what it's really long for you, huh? Six a.m. I need to go to sleep at some point ryan allegedly If that's what I do and I know he originally hopped on so we could talk Like a 15 minute chat would be And it just stays on Hey, it's just uh, you know Universe telling you that we need to make our own show Hmm Hey, well hey comment section. Let us know what you think about that idea Chat is that something you'd want to see me and mauler having our own stream? Maybe like on a thursday or friday or whatever Uh, let us know. Yeah We've been discussing it Yeah, you uh wrapping up soon or is it gonna be going for uh, because I could probably say for like 10 minutes Uh, I mean the you guys are free to go whenever you like. I gotta get through all these super chats and Yeah, let's burn through them davidium call me racist All right, let's burn through them right here. Uh, kind of we was made to push riva Dave loney's a loyal slack. I guess subin's absolutely responsible for toran's return. Yes indeed. She is If I was george, I'd love kathy. Okay All right Shit damn So uncivilized Dodge that one. I remember seeing eight in theaters I saw seven like five times and liked what that eight was different except for casino planet episode three is my favorite nine down Yeah, see people who like eight don't really like nine It's kind of impossible considering nine shits all over eight It makes hold. Oh, um a coward because canonically she had a One in a million chance of being successful with the ship by hyper driving it That means that she had an option to simply, you know ram into them regularly or take a one in a million What's actually happening in that scene is she took the nine hundred ninety nine thousand hundred ninety nine Chance of escaping on her own. That's what holdo was doing But you know that that's gonna be one of those things where it's like goes down in history It's like celebrated her chest statue stuff and everyone's just like I don't think she was Doing that to help us guys. I think you should try to run away Yeah, they hate that movie because it just changes all the meaning in episode eight for a lot of things Dave should stick to the animation side. Yeah I've read this one What's up car Mcreven a diverse lesbian will save star wars. Okay. I'm just waiting for the walk away It's a little late You know the acolyte actually has a good premise The whole I mean the leak thing about the The village and then they the jedi come there to kind of save the village or whatever if they give them their force sensitive child And then they do so but then the jedi don't save them the marauders come and just like destroy everyone and then There's one kid that's left and he's or she's force sensitive as well It's like the sister of the child that was taken by the jedi and she like vows to kill the jedi and she turns into the acolyte And she's like trained by Yeah In a world where there's no good or evil apparently according to the cast What do you guys think of zon being the head creative over dave? I so Timothy zon have a mixed relationship with because I really appreciate a lot of his Contributions some better than others the thron trilogy early 90s awesome the duology awesome some of his other stuff um like the marjade standalone Um scoundrels not a big fan of this is a guy who sat there in 2013 when there were hints of them retconning and you know taking get rid getting rid of the eu He said that would be a massive mistake We have people that have built this up for so long been so dedicated to keeping it like within continuity all this stuff There'd be a huge mistake for them to do that Then he's the first guy that took the 30 pieces of silver to like write for new canon and retcon all of his thron stuff so I have my problems with them I haven't read all the canon thron books. I think I've read about half of them I don't think they're up to par with some of the older stuff But I appreciate that he does at least try to incorporate some of the older things that people do know about thron into this type of story Yeah, the way I look at that is like, okay. Well, first of all, he's he's you know, a writer So he's gonna he wants to get but at the second time the second place, um Who's gonna write thron better if he says no some other guy's gonna come in there and try to rewrite his character Yeah, so it's like well Might as well take the money and make sure the character is protected as much as he can because he'll be able to Swindle his way if he if he you know, he pushes a little bit because you know It's easy for me to say turn down the money, you know In my position, but I'm yeah, I would hope that they paid him well Only money hey star which they have been with you since elevator fan film And I'm as sad as you with the decline in stars over the years The only way I still love the setting is because a fan's making fanfics. Yeah fanfics are the way to go Put a chicken in it and make her gay and lame And lame Kathleen kennedy Do y'all have thoughts on star wars eclipse doubt the game gets made but curious your thoughts This one like 10 10 years away I hope it gets made, dude Ryan you saw the trailer, right? I did um How much of an update have we had about that game nothing in a long time? yeah I I don't know anything about I Cinematic trailers, they are what they are at this point until I see some like actual gameplay and like legit know what it's going to be about It's tough for me to judge But I'm all for making more star wars games though I think they need to make more star wars games not less I think more shots on more different varieties of star wars games like we were talking about like they did in the 2000s that that's the best place for them to go I love the fact that the ea contract, you know is up and a lot of other people can make it um, and hopefully You roll the dice you throw a lot of stuff out there half. It's good and half that we can just shit on Yeah, we go to half. It's good It honestly looks like a really funny 20 million views just from the trailer. This trailer was crazy, man. It was badass It just it makes me want to be intrigued to play the game Like make this a movie or a show instead. Yeah, why not in the same animation style? Yeah, it literally looks real It's really expensive For sure, but I just feel like I don't think so was animals things they could do. They chose a lot of the shittiest one Making tips of what we actually got What is with that? Like I highly doubt that if they made a movie like this it would cost them more than 200 million um Over the slow tour cinematic trailers back in the day those were the coolest things I've ever seen in my life That's what Vader Epsitude can look like Damn and three I mean, fuck maybe not like as good, but I don't think you'll really be able to notice all that much for a fan film Yeah, she gets me so high. I know that guy Damn, uh Ryan wants his son to be off Me? Yeah, you want grogu dead? Yeah, I fuck that. I I hate grogu um Pick any other little baby A jar jar baby how to be how to be a yoda species The jar jar baby could have made it a rhodian made a wookie on both of the jar. They're doing team age grogu jar jar baby would be cute Will feloni kill thron later or will he respect zon to keep? Oh shit. Yeah, I mean Thrawn definitely has to die eventually uh, I mean Thrawn's probably gonna like take a wrong turn and like run into a black hole He's so fucking incompetent and a soka. Um, and it'll probably call it a complete and total victory um, I It'll probably do it just like they did it in air to the end. Well, not in five But in zons and they'll wait till the end to kill them Like the idea that the ship's getting torn apart by the black hole all the ships fleet are going in and he's like Just wait and see what happened That's a good thron voice Until the black hole takes me I know thank you, Kevin What's up sand? Appreciate you dude What's the best place to find post return of the jedi legend stuff? I grew up on the og6 the clone wars and watched the sequels when I was 13 Never saw the old Best place to find post return of the jedi legend stuff Ryan that's your answer Um, let's see best place Uh post turn the jedi you mean like where to buy stuff or what should you look for if you're never done before Thrawn trilogy hop into that takes about takes place about five years after The events uh the events of return of the jedi so definitely get those Um from there if you want to learn more about luke skywalker build a jedi order do the jedi academy trilogy Then hop into Um new jedi order which is like a 19 book series. It's a slog, but it's like the game of thrones for star wars It's fucking awesome. Um legacy of the force after that Well, you could probably do the swarm war or skip the swarm war trilogy in between legacy the force nine book series Um, and then fated the jedi nine book series Which that introduces abaloth who we've heard a lot about Uh in recent weeks after asoka. So that'd be my standard. That'd be my go-to for post return of the jedi What would you say is the worst eu book? Uh crystal star planet of twilight one of those Pretty bad never Put a malgus In terms of cheating death the dude won't die a freaking mountain fell on him and that was the first thing Awesome scene lol Malgus is awesome What is his uh deceived One of the deceived is a great book in swore. Yeah Hail theory moller ryan and the 199 ryan. I've just started the new jedi order series now I love it so far hail the eu the true star wars canon. It honestly has the best stories in star wars Hell yeah, man. Awesome. That's good to hear. I love people getting into it Do you read the yoda comic? It's good. No, I didn't Which one the one from when he was called minch yoda I was gonna say like the one from a long ads time ago. Yeah, Tuscan lady I never read names for look at profile just Lady, this is great. Y'all checked out the new rebel moon trailer yet thoughts. No, I didn't Be good. I was excited for it. And then I saw the first trailer and I'm like There's a lot more in the new trailer dude. It's in the army of the dead universe Don't kick ass because you guys all saw that film and loved it, right? I didn't see any of the dead. It seems so wild to feel the need to connect those Yeah, right my sci-fi fantasy space-faring fucking star wars film is connected to a zombie film Vegas like why? So you can get a You said it there's probably gonna be like one little thing in the background or something No, weird. Why is it in the same galaxy? I probably could it would have been excited for this a couple years ago But I'll pass on it. Oh Only MCU star wars stuff I watch as fnt in there through this is a yet chat So what what should I come up with for the new name of these podcasts? Because I don't even know what the fuck I'm doing You know, I'm calling it like talking stuff Third neary theory the retox No, we're gonna have channel like that through theory Melvin mania Three mania Three mania that's actually kind of dope Three mania, three mania old wrestling. Yeah. Ah, there you go. I kind of like that your mania ww theory I don't know Yeah, I don't know. Okay. Long theory Theory sit council theory strikes back No, it's got to be like a quick I don't know Uh scrap kk creatives keep rogue one bring kent karano back. Yeah Get rid of rug one. Yeah Like I said, we can rig it We went she's still there, isn't he? I think is uh last time I know I like it's probably sitting in a cubicle somewhere Like just watching canon crumble, but I don't know Ruthen's everything thrown should it's been I'm like the ruthlessness and the intelligence some air Not quite wrong, but I go this name Yeah Oh revenge of the theory I don't know anything about this Thank you. Howard cern I made a joke at a universal theme park about a stupid statue. Everyone got really mad about it um But I appreciate it howie. I guess that goes hand in hand with your Batman take Yeah, you can't make fun of anybody. You can't make fun of anything If you made fun of paul walker ever before for dying. Oh man, that's just out of bounds Some people have a sense of humor about things and people don't Theory kennel and moeller haven't enjoyed Enjoying a crossover this much since infinity war question though who wins an elite mandalorian or predator um Depends on what's the load out for the predator and the mandalorian probably elite mando. I guess Elite mando. Yeah elite. I think is the best car is gonna difficult for the predator to deal with Unless acid gets into it What if it's the predator from The last one that came out on hulu moller That predator get fucked by an elite mando. Are you kidding me? Yeah, the predator got beat by like a he killed himself that girl a native american girl with a bone arrow like I have many thoughts on that but Point is um I think the predator from predator versus an elite mando the problem for predator is going to be the I don't even know if his plasma caster will get through the best car at that point The stealth like from the predator will be beneficial, but I imagine a mandos Anas will be able to pick up a predator anyway Definitely. He's got the heat heat. So at that point. Yeah, I just don't like the predator can Eat the mando tip. It might be you know, if you ran like 10 fights predator might get one of them Hmm So feel like spending years of hard work building a youtube channel to have disney undermine it uh Literally don't care because I built my channel on my love for star wars and Uh, it's you guys that watch the videos not disney. So I don't need their free movie tickets. I'm good. If anything, it's actually kind of a plus that they Undermine me or or don't acknowledge me because it means that I can't be bought And I think that's what a lot of people want these days Someone who has freedom of speech Thanks, Jeff Theory you should make a video about who dorth revin is Pretty sure I've done that Yeah You know what like really who he is as a person, you know, yeah, I could do that. Yeah, sure behind the mask With the blow back from rey riva sabine pandiverse mcu marvels Does anyone think disney could adapt the bane trilogy with the same ending without xana criticism? Yes, no Yeah, absolutely I well I will say in the highly charged thing we're in here I do think you would have some people being like, oh, it's not believable I can't believe she beat him But I think most people if it was executed well and right just like they did in the book Would fully support it. I'd be defending the hell out of it. Yeah, you too I was begging for uh, darth zana books from jew carpershin kidding me. I would have loved to see the rest of that story Um, I was begging for the sort of the jedi trilogy the jana solo trilogy It was actively being worked on when disney bought star wars I received a lot of day Theory was the same way like ray park. He asked questions and literally wanted to have genuine conversations with people at the hollywood Yeah, yeah, yeah, actually ray park actually cares Wow, he's not just there to make a buck Star Wars will never be safe as long as kks in charge. I agree personally. I rather the worst of disney Star Wars rather than than disney marvel. Oh Yes, like I can't talk. I don't know marvel much marvels in a Fucking tailspin disaster off a cliff into a back hole. It's terrible There is more bad marble content coming out than there has been star wars content period Yeah, so that might be a little overwhelming at times. Damn. I like this one. The erotic The erotic like nerd rod Uh wine dined in 69 all hail theory in the 199 What's the 199 what is that 199 is a really stupid meme jeremy created Well, really, I created it and jeremy made it into a thing Somebody we titled a video. It was a live stream. It was right after star wars celebration It was after the acolyte panel which was So cringe to hear people talking about how they've never seen representation star wars before and how star wars isn't about good or evil Things like that. So I titled it star wars celebration cringe And like a couple other things somebody came in a chat really mad and they said Star wars celebration cringe. Are you retarded? That's what they typed. Are you retarded? The star wars celebration's been around since 199. I'm at 1999. Yeah, they just freaked out And so I pulled it up and I just roasted them because they made a typo 199 and that became a meme and jeremy Shifted everything about geeks and gamers to the 199. That's what our channel memberships are named now It's like a legion that is part of nice the guy started a legacy He did I thought it was stupid. I thought it was gonna stick around for like one or two days Here we are a year later. It's a thing now. Does jeremy have a podcast now going on? A podcast. I mean he does his own d-day cobra stuff like he has streams over there But not podcast wise. I think it'd be great if you started doing podcasts What kind of technically he's both people sit down and chat a lot of like Five different like what you could call podcasts, isn't it? Yeah, so like we for geeks and gamers we do a daily show monday through friday at 11 a.m. That goes for about an hour hour and a half um They're doing a stream right now like playing video games or something He does Tuesday nights made event. That's a big stream. We do friday night tights Get around did friday night tights get changed to uh afternoon It did for the europeans Like this guy um But mostly because we had a european as a permanent resident was just like too late for him So we got changed to like four in the afternoon said with such disdain Fucking you're four in the you changed my schedule up bro Are hayden and you and shills for saying they want to return to star wars some more No no I like I thought it was so cool to see hayden I I wasn't a big fan of anything that he did with him and it was a little bit puzzling why they really brought him back for that episode but I love Seeing him excited to play the character. It's really cool. Yeah I thought the finale of loki series was a masterpiece that reminded me of peak marvel even though The entire season was imperfect. Explain to me what happened I'll happily eat. It's a great episode if you can just tell me what the hell happened I I think it's evoking a lot of emotions from people because they really care about Loki and they really like tom hiddleston The best answers I guess he became the lord of stories Yes, god of stories out of stories, which is from a recent marvel run. Yeah Yeah, which is like you can say that but the way that we never said it is that he like walked through Time and collected random threads and sound of golden throne. I was like, what in the Like my my biggest problem with the whole season is that Episodes one through five didn't need to happen Yeah, um, I think the season makes that clear happen. They'll go retconned Yeah We met at josh for the way he left with no warning also who's been your favorite guest on here so far Love y'all. I don't really have a favorite guest man. I think everyone's so different. Um I think me and mauler hit it off really well. I mean the boys are now regulars here Uh melvin's like the mascot you know ryan's the special guest for tonight it's I mean onald had a great time Love talking to the rings Everyone's different. It's really great to be able to learn from so many different people and uh, it's for josh I think you know giving me more than an hour's notice after a three-year show would have been expected, but I'm not mad dude It's his choice and he's got a kid and uh, he's got a comic book to worry about so no It's all good dude Glad ryan's here. Love his videos be he honest. Yeah, he is Thank you leon And if you guys want to check out any of the channels linked in the description you guys can find these boys there I like everyone here might not agree with everyone But it's nice to see you guys have discussions about stars and have different opinions You guys are awesome And that's the beautiful thing is that we can all have different discussions and opinions about star wars We don't have to agree because a world where everyone agrees with everything is just ridiculous And boring. Yeah boring as hell dude. Yeah Stop Garrett It's melvin melvin brother of the joker Well, please don't tell me What I don't know what that is melvin brother of the joke I'm not gonna actually have another streamer to explain that meme to people I don't get it does melvin get it Nobody here knows what melvin brother of the joker is okay No idea last evening. No, I could explain it to everybody compared to the riddler a lot Melvin brother the joker is a meme that got stied because nostalgia critic dug walker was doing skits and stuff And he makes one where he thought he his idea was what if the joker had a brother who was retarded That's a really funny joke He makes a video dressed up as joker and he makes a little tune where he's just like melvin melvin brother of the joker And he's like that's me and ever was like, what the fuck you doing? What the hell as soon as you said nostalgia critic It's like the cringiest attempt at a joke ever that managed to full circle turn back into like yeah melvin brother of the joker And this this was in batman Well, this is just a video you made on his channel, but it was from like I don't see like over 10 years ago or something. That's an ancient That's funny that's funny that bob would get that Late to the stream awesome seeing moller and ryan on here with starwars They've been watching each of these guys separately for a while all hail toxic avengers You know, we gotta remove the word toxic and just honestly I think everyone else who doesn't allow other people to have opinions are toxic. I think we're just Oh, absolutely. It's perfectionist. It's finest, but you know, sometimes you just want to be like, yeah, fuck you Okay, I'm toxic whatever Yeah, go cry about it mel did not George and dave create the soka together Yes, it's a gray area, but uh still doesn't fit tcw doesn't fit with uh expanded universe I also agree It'd be fun if you guys came together and just give us starware stories. What would What would it take for you guys to collect a little be right and create projects? This could be our canon would love old republic um I mean, yeah, when we do streams together, we I think we riff off of a lot of different possibilities and stories Yeah, to to commit to like all of us working together to create starware stuff Which is like any of us have the time necessarily No, we're all our own things. We're all you know, pretty busy, but I'm not very creative either No, this has been a great stream of mad respect to all of you Timothy zon We're blasting through these here almost done. Kai Patterson, Kenobi movie edit thoughts. I haven't seen it yet Just wondering when you're going to start filming. Uh, we're doing it in animated form. So we've already been working on it for many many many many many moons And uh, we're getting to the point where I'm going to be doing casting calls soon. So for voices So get your throats ready What? That's getting a clip For the casting couch Ha ha ha Rafters you consider CGI Vader episode. That's what I'm doing. What the fuck you guys not fucking listen to my videos like what? Fuck it'd be really be a little bit cheaper theory. Maybe you should consider doing that. Oh my god Here you should stream with ryan kennel. I reckon you guys know Yeah Because everyone thinks CGI Vader 2 would be cheaper. It's actually not at all Because like the money that you save you just put it put it back in to making it look better What's better marvel or star wars Like right now star wars possible question to answer honestly right now star wars isn't better standing But if you meant like overall at their best Check that name I'm biased to star wars. It's not fair Dammit Do you think I'm trying to like blast through these the guys just got us Do you ever think they'd ever do legend stories animated air to the empire? Probably I was hoping at one point they would I would have loved it. I don't um I don't think they have any interest in any legend stuff other than ripping it off Yeah, it's gonna be a Probably a fan thing at this point Yeah, you have some people uh darth angeles. I think is his name. He's doing an animated air the empire Like chapter by chapter. It's really cool. And he's really dedicated to it. Um animated air to the empire He's put a lot of work into that thing. Yeah Sam bro Hey theory and crew from new zealand made the force really well. What's up, man? What up? Found two star wars movies in storage this last weekend I have the hs version of phantom medicine new hope in decent condition nice hell. Yeah, you know what I have I have the original harry potter books Like the first editions or whatever whatever it is. Oh, I didn't even realize all of them I don't think all of them. I don't know but a lot of them are like First or second editions That's cool. There was a lot of different prints of those as well They tried out some really weird colors before they settled on like the famous one that everybody like kind of remembers now So do you have the you mean like the One that Was printed like in us in canada. Are you talking about the uk ones? I remember checking it out Yeah, I remember checking it a while ago and it was like I was like, oh shit I actually have like one of the originals or something like that That's cool Yeah, I love harry potter me too Read them like you should start a you should start a harry potter theory channel. Oh, yeah, there you go From all or I have one that's I even I knew british sock hasn't doesn't come through something. No, it doesn't But I I don't handle the channel anymore Uh, what about when the show comes out you're gonna make an appearance Uh, I don't know I don't know my friend just handles that channel now at this point. So Yeah, I'd love to I'd love to make some videos. Be cool I'm disappointed that the chat is not starting enough crap with me or calling me names also dark Darth melvin moller and ryan kick ass Special ray you special ray. I like special ray The fandom in is still blocked, but I don't know is it I don't even know what the fandom in is the thing anymore. Uh, but if they were they'd probably still be blocked I doubt they'd be unblocked Shadows of the empire would have been a great animated series that being said black sun should have been the organization to rise up for the sequels Agreed kind of they were supposed to be with george's version of the mall coming back Part of that crime syndicate, right? It would have made sense Number one is bullying me in the chat. Take my money also ryan. You is racist kidding Also, halloween was over three weeks ago. Did anyone tell melvin? So when melvin hits a hundred case subs, he's taking the mask off Do you guys think they'll ever wreck on the sequels? No, no No In an hour if you still haven't gotten your star wars fix would be honored if you join us in the chat on Steve vice. No, we're we're piecing out dude. It's been four and a half hours I feel bad for these guys beat boot bop Ryan i'm picking up what you've been putting down I've been a fan since star wars came out novels were great theory. Sorry star wars has broken your heart But I dig your passion. Love you moller Yeah, pretty Oh, yeah, thank you sue. Thanks, sue I won't call you dude because I think susie girl. I call women dudes too Dudes is fine Call them bro Brother how should how should they go about explaining the mystical parts of the force like the mortis gods and future sagas and shows they should That's a great question because I don't really know We have like a tease of the mortis gods And I don't think most people that watch it have any fucking idea what they even looked at at the end of the show No, no idea. Nope We maybe wait until they figure out how to just do basic stuff like people walking around first Like before like having a conversation and see me normal. I don't think we're mystical. Shit. Yeah, okay It's what and like all the all the abalot theories and most of the people that I see talking about abalot theories Probably like have no idea what abalot is You know what I mean the like read the wikipedia thing It's like abalots a crazy fucking character for them to introduce If that's what they do but They could probably have like some sort of a flashback or something since you know, ryan introduced that shit into star wars They could or or asoka could use psychometry And basically flashback to everything Yeah, could do that too or could literally just have the sun being like coming in there and You'd have to go on youtube to see the breakdown The next tales of the jedi is going to have an episode devoted to asoka learning a new esoteric Sporce power when she was a child that she'll now use to get back from Another galaxy quite probably did you guys notice a harvey dent was ray swapped in batman 89 I didn't I did black Yeah, oh really billy d Really and it would have been really need to see billy d play two-faced, but what? series council No, uh, it's not going to that name again Fuck um, I don't know we'll figure it out Remembering when star wars felt like something. What did you say? What did you call it ryan? I actually liked it? It was a theory mania theory mania. I think I said, yeah WWE theory. It's also good too WWE theory. Yeah Theory man. I like theory mania. It's kind of dope Remembering when star wars felt like something that belonged with lord of the rings harry potter percy jackson Whereas now it's cotton candy marble concert. Yes You watch the first six films it feels totally different Yeah, oh I challenge anyone go watch one of the first six films. You'll notice like oh weird massive theory outpost The lucas council is a good one It's a good name Just call it georgia lucas live Let's go to the podcast to get georgia lucas to join Type 54 banshee verse t 47 speeder star wars who wins Uh, probably the banshee Right. It has to be. Yeah. Yeah, I would have thought so Alvin you want to read that? Chuck for 199 hail lord melvin hail the knights hashtag melvin full time Really great mix. I'd name the show the trash compact. I've been following you all for a while. The trash compact Damn Funny how megan concludes god doesn't exist after megan got hurt and not after megan shanked a pen god. What are you talking about? Uh megan rapino you at united states soccer player Tori achilles in her final game ever and she said this is proof god doesn't exist Does it doesn't? Yeah, it doesn't because she got hurt in her last game. Yeah, I'm sure god was trying to stop it for winning Yeah, I was been waiting around for that. He was like, no you ain't got no gold in life I made a video out of for my sports channel. That's probably why that comments there Long theory fap kkk outpost Horny koala Windy stream star wars the old public um Every sunday we're doing every sunday around 2230 That profile Dwight howard is straight A lot of the barrel with these account names now. Holy crow What's wrong with it? I'm doing a tick butcher. What's up, man? What's up, Jason? Throw it. Damn, bro A theory your girl was fine shin Yeah Well, she might be on stream tonight too on theory talks, so Uh, what do you all want to see continue the story of the clones? Even though we will never get that because doesn't know what we're gonna have I'm still trying to find out what happened to kodi It's like We've had a lot of clone stories. Um, obviously bad batches, you know wrapping some of that stuff up to Yeah, yeah, dude. Are we supposed to get all these like season three's and shit season three bad batch? We'll get um Tales of the Jedi season two The what was the other show with the kids skeleton crew skeleton Yeah, melvin's looking forward to that one. I heard that's his favorite and acolyte We got billy d2 facing a little bit. I'm really looking forward to the acolyte We'd love this panel lineup to be permanent need a little more melvin versus the shills rants though it'll be fun if we had like a bunch of shills come into streams and I'd duck out and it would just be melvin Yeah, I can't just like start yelling and screaming. I probably won't get invited back Hey, uh here on star wars theories channel We're taking over I'm darth melvin leader of the knights of melvin Um, what's going on guys? Oh my god All right last super chat of the night The boys are probably like Finally low cast to destroy the time loop and keep the branches alive himself to save his friends and not kill silvi He made it clear throughout the season that he did not want to throw in order to be thrown a true selfless sacrifice Oh, I know. Yeah, sorry. Maybe I'm not making myself clear when I say what happened I don't mean don't tell me what the right is intended I mean how the hell did any of it make sense mechanically the season starts off and they establish the time loom Which was not mentioned or in any way in season one doesn't make any sense at all It's just this thing and they established it and then they reveal like an episode I'll say the finale or whatever But the time loom isn't what they thought it was throughout the whole season. It is instead just a failsafe tva This is gonna make any sense to us. I don't know if we watched Loki. Don't worry about it It's gonna it's a failsafe tva But when the timelines get out of control, it'll just chip them all and blow them up and keep the sacred timeline safe The Loki doesn't want that to happen because all the timeline people will die and they'll be very sad He also wants to like keep it in control So you manage just to find a way to become the lord of time Sacrifice himself to make sure everyone lives happily ever after and the timelines are safe What i'm suggesting is i have no idea how they learned any of this how All of this happened because silvi kicked Loki through a portal at the end of season one That puts him on an adventure that gets him to the point of being able to control all of time and space Like how the fuck does that make any sense at all? The the choice to make the sacrifice isn't within Loki's character in the slightest But unfortunately for us he watched the mcu on tv in season one and so he had a complete character arc because of that He's in two He's like these are the closest friends i've ever made when he's basically hanged out with them for like fucking days and weeks Doing weird adventures where they barely know each other Mobius's character is that he has no character He's just a goofy oan wilson man and the rest of them like they barely know I love ob he's like who the fuck is ob he's a nerd. That's about it. He just he likes nerdy stuff He knows that I love the actor. I love all the actors and I think they did a phenomenal job I love the cinematography story's not there. It's practically gone as ryan pointed out You could skip the majority. It was funny. We had a disbrew on efap and he was like, oh, you know I'm gonna I'm gonna check out Loki again. Maybe it I was like, you don't need to see any of it except the last episode He said like, oh, yeah, that it'll still make sense I was like, no, it won't make sense and it wouldn't make any more sense if you saw the five episodes before it So you may as well just go and you put out a tweet say like it did make any sense Biggest like dumb part of it all was when Loki season one ended We all assumed that that was how they were introducing the multiverse Right like into the MCU. This is this is the impetus behind the multiverse starting to open up And then we realized not just throughout the course of this season But through the rest of the MCU, that's not how it opens It's just different random happenstance coincidence events that are individually opening portals to the multiverse on their own All throughout like the course of a couple year period It has nothing to do with anything happening in Loki That to me was the more disappointing part of the entire season It was funny though Brian is that they retconned Sylvie making the decision in season one That it turns out that didn't matter at all and it was actually Loki's decision I thought it was so funny There's like a backlash thing because it's Loki's show but Sylvie makes the decision in season one Right And so that they were like, uh, no actually he who remains knew all of that was going to happen And so he actually circumvents it all so that Loki goes back in time after she's made the decision to undo her decision That make the decision himself like holy shit guys To get a little more clown Johnathan majors. Yeah, uh, it's a shit show Marvel There's theory you don't talk about like Star Wars is kind of playing with time travel and stuff in the world between worlds Yeah, Marvel has done like four different types of time travel Dimensional travel multiversal travel like it's all over the fucking place all different mechanics It's so confusing and no one knows what's going on here. Yeah, I'm good on that Uh Time travel just doesn't something it really interests me with stories. Um, you know, unless it's back to the future But I'm travel theory channel Yeah, let's go back in time to before episode eight That was a good time, you know, I would go back to october 29 The film 2012 he's about to put pen on the paper. George are the best that are like George now Stop it There's no time to explain but I'm the only guy that talks about your fucking franchise in the future, okay I'm known as toxic. Yeah, literally god damn it Tell them about the memory store Will's checked out I've been awake for like 25 hours Last night so I couldn't tell you what day it is right now. Yeah, I mean It's taco tuesday. I had a great show. I appreciate you guys coming on chat I'm doing my merch sale for black friday link is in the description And also the link to all these boys channels is in the description as well Um Yeah, I had a great show. I mean, this was one of the longest streams I've had in quite a long time. So Uh, yeah, I'm glad you guys enjoyed see a lot of positive comments right now flowing in Which is great And uh, we'll all see you guys on our respective channels me and moller still have to figure out what we're gonna do if we're gonna create a stream We're not together, but I certainly would like to and I know you guys would like to we just gotta figure out the logistics but um Big thumbs up before you leave the stream. 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