 of the acts of pursuant to chapter 20 of the acts of 2021 this meeting will be conducted by a remote means. Members of the public who wish to access the meeting may do so in the following manner by emailing steve mccarthy at mccarthy s at amherstma.gov that's m-c-c-a-r-t-h-y-s at amherstma.gov. No in-person attendance of members of the public will be permitted but every effort will be made to ensure that the public can adequately access the the proceedings in real time by a technological means. In the event that we are unable to do so for reasons of economic hardship and despite best efforts we will post on the town website an audio or video recording transcript or other comprehensive record of proceedings as soon as possible after the meeting. And with that said we'll call the meeting to order at 602 p.m. We'll take a roll call of attendance. Doug? Here. Dylan? Here. Hallie? Here. Great well let's get started. So the first item is public comment. Is anyone here for general public comment not pertaining to any of the hearings this evening just in general raise your hand or press the raise hand button at the bottom of your screen. Nope. Okay so on to the next item which is the here the continuation hearing of the transfer of the license and Steve you said that there's still some outstanding stuff on this. Yes we were still waiting for a few different things so they requested another continuance. Okay so we'll just continue that do we have to vote on that or do we just put it? Yeah we should vote to vote to continue it to the next meeting specific date and our next meeting as normally scheduled would be the 24th. The 24th? Okay so should we with anyone like to move that we continue the hearing for the transfer of alcohol off premises license and change of location. Shilpa enterprises to Oxbow ones to May 24th at six. So moved. So moved thank you is there a second? Second. Thanks Dylan any further discussion? Hearing none we'll take a vote. Doug? Aye. Dylan? Aye. Hallie? Aye. And I vote aye that is four to zero with one absent the hearing is continued to May 24th at 6 p.m. Okay so next up is this is a new alcohol on premises restaurant liquor license protocol Amherst at 1 East Pleasant Street manager Victoria Torti and is there someone here? Do we need a motion to go formally into hearing? Oh you're right you're right we do okay sorry about that. I'll make that motion. Okay thank you Doug is there a second? Second. Thank you any further discussion? If not let's take a vote Doug? Aye. Dylan? Aye. Hallie? Aye. And I vote aye that is four to zero with one absent the hearing for protocol is now open. Thanks Doug again. So Steve do you want to start out with an introduction? So this is an application for a new on premises all alcohol restaurant liquor license at 1 East Pleasant Street that's the other unit next to AIA that's remained vacant since the building opened and it looks like we have Dylan Manns and Victoria Torti from the business here to present. Great Dylan and Victoria would you like to present? Would you like to go first? Yeah so hi there this is Dylan Barstow-Manns thank you for having us tonight we are presenting on behalf of protocol it is going to be a cocktail bar opening up. Victoria is here with me today she's going to be on the operations team my focus is more on the build out and business administration side of the business but it is a cocktail best restaurant with small bites and there's about a 50 foot long bar taller ceilings about 16 to 17 foot tall ceilings wraps around with glass over looking Kendrick Park and we are looking for a full liquor license that would include beer wine and liquor. Okay great thank you very much. Well does anyone have any questions or concerns that everyone you have a chance to look over the papers the application? Doug did you have something to ask? I do have a question to ask and this is more actually for Steve because it really I want to sort of put this out there not before you too far along just because we have another license for a different location but it has the same person as the manager I didn't know from the standpoint this is just a technicality thing this is not necessarily a critique in any way but I just want to clarification from Steve on this relative to the person in that management role are there any limitations or restrictions that the ABCC puts on people in that role other than you know they carry the responsibility of being the manager? That is a good question and I don't believe there's any prohibition against being the manager of more than one establishment. I believe the ABCC does expect a certain amount of presence on site at any establishment that you manage and I think that would be a good question for the applicants as to how Ms. Torti plans to divide her time between the two. Okay so if I may just that'll be part one of the questions I asked the other is just if Ms. Torti can tell us a little bit about you know sort of management operations you know around carding, security, liquor handling just the general operational you know steps they're taking to ensure good service of age service not over serving all those types of things and maybe a little bit more about the food service that goes with it because we do have some specific requirements so we try to have food be available so a little bit about their food service all those will be great things to touch on for us. Apalek hi everyone how are you? Can you hear me? This is my first meeting so bear with me so as far as protocol goes we are utilizing an ID smart scanner for times in which Amherst as we all know has an influx of bar patrons as far as our normal hours we have a full menu protocols slightly lighter fare sandwiches salads we want to focus on local cheeses meats great desserts everything's homemade so please come but as far as after 10 o'clock on Thursday Friday and Saturday we will have one to two door persons on the door we have a second exit out of protocol but that will be alarmed um therefore eliminating any you know anyone letting anyone into the back or what what not our ID machine is extremely current it counts everything from people to how often you've been in here to how many times your ID has been scanned at all points so I can track any person who's come into my business we do have the option to do passports so though we probably we tend to veer away from passports to be honest with you my experience with the bar and being an Amherst I tend not to to go with the the passwords however we do have that option the oyster bar is a little bit more of a standard um bar setting I'm working very closely with Katie who has you know had such a great success with Judy's and I don't really see any reason to deviate from her business model and her restaurants and how she's run it um as far as you know safety keeping the back door um access not a regular um entrance um the the bar will be open later at oyster bar than it will be or was at Judy's per se um but it'll just be the bar so it'll be really easy to monitor um patrons coming and going we will also have the same um ID scanner at the oyster bar that we do at protocol um it to be determined whether we'll have someone at the door to be honest with you I don't foresee having it turn into kind of a bar scene um however I would defer to the town if they felt that though that would be something that would be beneficial um in myself to be honest with you I just it's kind of a different kind of setting than protocol but uh any questions I should just note that uh even though you know the ownership team is is completely in common between these two establishments and we're hearing the the hearings in the same night we should try to just keep the discussion of the two establishments separate okay yeah Doug uh just you know talking about the ID scanner are you going to are you going to scan IDs at each sale of of alcohol at protocol or are you going to do it at the door and then at protocol at 10 o'clock it goes to 21 plus okay um with people one to two door persons contingent like I said on you know I know I don't know I am familiar with Amherst um and how sometimes it the influx of people kind of uh you know grows past what our normal restaurants are our staff for so I am prepared for that um so yeah 100 21 plus past uh 10 o'clock I think it would just alleviate any you know any uh liability we'll say right um and just one just to clarify protocol the um the kitchen is going to and the menu is going to be the full menu the the full hours of operation or will you change your menu a little bit when you get later in the evening it will be um as of right now um this current iteration of our service it'll be a full menu till 12 o'clock um contingent on you know how service goes and you know uh we might we might just eliminate some of the more complicated dishes and go to more of a sandwich bar menu if we happen to run any steaks or pasta more dinner ask entrees but yes there will be full menu full dessert full non-alcoholic full full selection of all great thank you for that it's helpful thanks does anyone else have a question yeah if you could just um specify exactly what hours you're seeking for protocol um as right now I know that we've submitted over this last three years we've been doing this forever so as of right now we are shooting for Wednesday four to ten Thursday Friday and Saturday four to 12 um we want to go to one o'clock on those days we figure it's easier to fall back than to go forward but it would be contingent on you know how many people are coming in and whether it warrants to be open and Sundays are just a brunch service 11 to 4 and it would be closed on Monday and Tuesday for the time being that we really hope to open up the the restaurant to full service but with a current labor crisis that we're having we figured we would start in a nice a nice tight area and then kind of expand as we are able to inherit more staff all right but for your liquor license you would be seeking um until one o'clock then on Thursday through Saturday yes yes please okay yeah if this is specific to when we can serve the alcohol we would probably want to keep those hours later as opposed to what we end up uh getting pushed to based on labor uh and issues with the market I mean I would like to seek a full seven day a week because ultimately I would like to be open those days um this is just you know as of right now contingent with COVID and everyone opening back up and it's kind of a slow process so ultimately I would prefer to be open seven days two meal periods but we'll have to wait and see how that goes thank you um so does anyone else have a question with Dylan or Victoria at the moment I just so did you answer the question Doug you had the question about uh so Victoria is the is the the manager for both the oyster bar and for protocol and how many hours do you expect to be on site at protocol I would like to get protocol up and running with a extremely competent team and then bounce back and forth between the two okay um thus far I have a great team that's been building all of these menus and um operations with me and we hope to kind of oversee them both tandem one thing we should mention um she wasn't able to be here tonight but we'll also have another managing partner uh Daniella uh and she will be able to assist with both both Daniella and Vicki had extensive uh experience over at uh the Inn on Boltwood uh Vicki has led the program over there uh the bartending program over there for uh I'm not sure Vicki you'll have to say that but Daniella has run conferences over there for eight years yeah we're both very familiar with Amherst the influx that the cadence of Amherst okay all right thank you does anyone have a any other questions or comments from the board I just have one comment and uh I don't mean to say this to nitpick you at all but you did note on both of your applications you'd be on premises for 50 hours a week um that seems like a lot and I know that um you know operational realities can can change a little bit but I might suggest just um you know with the board's consent maybe just submitting a alteration to that to to make it something more reasonable so you don't get held up in an ABCC I think that's totally doable Steve I think uh what we got mixed up on I was sorry I'm the one that ended up filling out that paperwork what I got mixed up on uh with that and the hours of operation uh is the back and forth between what's um gonna be needed operationally uh on first opens versus what we'll actually get into once once we are open and operating both so uh we can definitely amend that okay that would be great thank you any other questions uh hello good question are you planning on opening around the same time for both restaurants or is one gonna open before protocol will definitely open um we're hoping to give it several months to get it up and running and situated so that Daniela and myself are able to uh have a strong team and train them and you know get everyone to where we want and then either she or I will be either property for protocol we're targeting early July for oyster bar at this point it'll be uh in mid fall uh we open up some walls and judies to do renovations and it's gonna take a bit mid fall so like october november uh at this point yes it's it's tricky with the supply chain and getting contractors and labor right now but hopefully october october okay all right thank you any questions any other questions do anyone know do we want to close the hearing I do just want to um to mention one thing um there was a little bit of information missing from this application um the front page um for protocol or actually I'm sorry that issue is with aob but um this application was missing some of the financial disclosure information and a full lease um that is it within the boards remit to to review so um I don't know that that categorically prohibits you from approving it if you feel that there's nothing within those that could change your decision but um I do want to point that out okay so um is that forthcoming or is it just yes that that is information that we're working to get towards to steve uh yes all right and when do you think that will be uh within this week um yeah have have the lease uh queued up and ready to go and waiting on the financial disclosure information as well okay all right thank you waiting on a letter from our small business loan lender okay um Doug did you have a question oh sorry you yeah me myself sorry I was just going to move to close the hearing if we're ready okay are we ready to close the hearing so I'll I'll move to close the hearing all right thank you there's been a motion is there a second thank you thank you Dylan any further discussion before we vote to close I'm before we vote um we should just ask if there's any public comment oh is that yeah thanks Steve is there any public comment if you have public comment please um hit the little hand at the bottom of your screen and let Steve know and you can speak in here is anyone I am seeing none okay no public comment all right then let us take thanks again Steve let's take a vote Doug hi Dylan hi Gaston hi Kelly hi and I vote I the hearing for protocol is now closed um and now commissioners we can talk about anything um are there any concerns or questions did you want to just should we just move into approval um yes Doug I would I would just suggest that we we would make the uh you know if the board so feels to to approve but make the motion for approval to be contingent upon uh completion of the of the uh paperwork um with uh you know with review by Steve McCarthy for for anything that might merit our need to review again if there's anything there that absolutely okay so we will do that make sure that when the motion is made it is dependent on the reception of information the financial information and the the lease the full lease within a week for what to Steve McCarthy um any questions any further discussion if no okay if not I'll entertain a motion uh with the caveats that we mentioned before wouldn't even like to make that motion so moved thank you Doug and is there a second second thanks Dylan any further discussion hearing none we'll take a vote Doug hi Dylan hi Gaston hi Kelly hi and I vote I uh the license for protocol has been approved thank you very much thank you thank you and so now we move on to the next one we open the hearing for the oyster bar yes Doug I'll move that we open here all right there's a motion to open the hearing for oyster bar is there a second second thank you Dylan um I guess there's no further discussion let's take a vote Doug hi Dylan hi Gaston hi Allie hi and I vote I five to zero the hearing is open for the all alcohol license for the oyster bar and who is doing a presentation out it'll be Dylan and Victoria again Victoria okay wonderful so so let's talk about that so same same ownership group and then same operations team with Vicki and Daniella was is not able to be here we are going into the the old Judy space currently under renovation it will turn into a 180 seat restaurant that will have seafood but also have a raw bar oysters and serve alcohol wine beer and I'll let Vicki take it away all right so we are we are hoping or planning to be open seven days a week lunch and dinner and Thursday Friday and Saturday we will be keeping the bar portion of the oyster bar open for late night limited menu but something a little more extensive than Amherst has had in the past we are going to run a regular a regular dinner service so something more traditional than than um we've seen um yeah that's it it's very straightforward we just want to serve people oysters and some great wine all right thank you um any questions from the board regarding this license so is the steve is any the paperwork in order for this one so the same items were missing from this one um there was also a question um with Mr. Mann's about uh the layout of the premises originally um they provided a um I'm gonna try to dig this up they provided a um a plant floor plan for just the first floor um all of the application materials suggested the the restaurant stretches among three um so he did provide me with um um floor plans for the other floors and I will try to um bring these up for you all oh great okay thank you um and Mr. Mann's is that um Barstow man's is that uh are you are you confirming that you would like the the license premises to consist of the entire um everything on these plans uh yeah uh I would look to the the board's expertise to kind of guide me on on how to go about uh getting that license the second floor will be just like Judy's second floor was in the past it was an office space and a place for employees um to change and use the restroom and the basement uh was for storage which did include storage of of liquor and wine bottles that was locked um we wouldn't be serving the only serving in um customer level is that primary level um but if it makes the most sense do all three floors uh then we can absolutely do that um oh yeah done I was just gonna say I think that um the third floor because it's it's just you know sort of operational space office etc I don't think that has to be included certainly the storage would on the bottom floor and uh and obviously the main floor where the service is so I think your your application will have to be modified because it currently says one floor so I think you have to do you have to include the the spaces that will have the storage so at least that basement area will have to be included I don't think the third floor will necessarily have to be included uh because it won't actually have any alcohol service or storage if you needed the flexibility to do that then you'd want to include it but I don't you know if you you don't feel like it's necessary then then I wouldn't we have a an overabundance of storage on the in the basement so we'll stick to the basement in the in the primary floor so here is the second floor and here is the basement so there's just the one exit from the basement is that what I'm saying at the bottom there right right okay all right yes done um just you know speaking of access the the what's the uh control mechanism for the staircase at least downstairs so is it like behind the bar the first floor or is it locked and only accessible by staff or can you tell us a little bit about that as far as that access to that lower floor absolutely it's only accessible via the kitchen um it's deep deep within the kitchen so there's no chance that guests will be down there okay great thank you for that yeah great um any other questions about this license yes Dylan well you said you said you were um opening protocol first uh maybe I missed it what uh what do you think is the the general timeframe when you guys are actually looking to open this one up we're hoping we're hoping early fall october um judy's was one single family home um from 150 year old home and it got merged into two single family homes that are over 150 years old so uh when they merged them they kind of uh didn't fully do uh all the updates that were needed now that we're gutting it uh we're just we're seeing more and more uh things that need to get addressed uh so it's it's pushed our timeline out october uh but it could be pushed into november okay thank you um any other questions or concerns from the board I have one question what what exact hours are you looking for for liquor license okay we're looking for we're looking for seven days a week lunch and dinner with thursday friday and saturday um being open later in the bar just with the opportunity to serve serve some uh some oysters late night all right and what um what hours would would capture that intention for you I would I would like to go till one on those nights um that's it let's let's say vicki if we said thursday through saturday uh from whenever open is what would open be 11 11 to 1 11 to 1 and then we'll say uh sunday through wednesday uh 11 to midnight 10 p.m unless we want to if unless we want the option to go to go later just in case anything in amherst arises now with our new our new addition of the drake it might be who of us to to be open a little later I would want to keep I would say that we should keep it to midnight and then if we operationally need to minimize that we can absolutely do that but I wouldn't want to uh jeopardize the ability to succeed as a restaurant in the market perfect hours all right so just to confirm sunday through wednesday 11 a.m to midnight and thursday through saturday 11 a.m to 1 perfect all right thank you great all right so um if anyone has any questions i will entertain a motion to close the hearing for the first bar thank you duck is there a second second thank you dylan um if there's no further discussion we will take a vote or any questions steve do you have any other questions um I would just suggest that um when if a motion is made it just capture the same language dug included um last time um for the uh the contingent on the paperwork and everything and then I would also just remind for public comment before we oh right is there any public comment about the oyster bar thank you again any public comment you can raise your hand I don't see there's no public comment is there okay all right then we'll take a vote to close the hearing um Doug hi dylan hi hallie hi cast on hi and I vote I five to zero the hearing for the oyster bar is now closed um is there any further discussion among the commissioners about this license application and if there is not I would entertain a motion to approve the license for the oyster bar with the amendments that Doug made last time regarding the paperwork go move thank you Doug um is there a second second thank you dylan um any further discussion if there's none we'll take a vote Doug hi hallie hi dylan hi cast on hi and I vote I uh five to zero the license has been approved for the oyster bar thank you very much for coming in thank you so much for your time um and steve I will connect with you uh tomorrow for the financial disclosure lease and the amendment on the first floor and basement for AOB thanks dylan that will be a a hard stop on me submitting it to the ABCC so I will look forward to that understood thank you all right thank you Victoria thank you thank you um best of luck you guys yeah thank you can't wait to see you there look see you there all right so the next one on the agenda is the renewal of cherry hill is there someone here I don't believe there is this is um a seasonal license renewal so just like the annual ones but this one comes up um in the spring um so yeah it's just a pretty straightforward renewal for that that's um the cherry hill golf course the town owns up on montague road okay thanks um does anyone have any questions about the cherry hill renewal yes Doug just a couple of things just you know there's no change I presume there's no change in who's managing how they're operating hours operating that's all the same as it has been it is um they do need to make a change to their manager but um that's not something they can do with renewal so they're going to have to submit an application for that okay can you know offhand their hours of operation I don't know offhand but I can pull it up pretty quickly that is um Monday through Saturday 8 a.m. to 12 a.m. and sunday um noon to midnight do we have to know what kind of food service they have they used to have like a kind of a grill like a snack bar kind of thing but that's a good idea I have never been there I don't know okay I mean it's not it's not like you know a country club type of I mean it's a more low-key public golf course for the environment but um you know as we do require food service in places and I know they have it I just didn't know it's changed or what sort of food service they had but I don't think I don't think it stops us from renewing it I don't think there's any issues or anything like that I'm just curious as to what they what their strategy is on that yeah that might be a good thing to follow up with them on and um I will uh you know because there was a retirement um so they do need to change their manager although I believe that person is still working part-time um but that might be a good a good opportunity to kind of check in with them and and see what their operations are because that's a good question I have no idea what they really are well and with with new people they may have new ideas of what they want to do yeah yeah I don't know so Steve can you check in with them or yes I will okay super can we still renew it with yeah okay yes Doug um I'll make the motion to renew the the uh the seasonal liquor license for for cherry hill golf course thanks Doug is there uh for the motion is there a second thank you dylan is there any further discussion regarding the cherry hill now I will I think the thing is I didn't see a reason to sort of not approve this I just I think with with these they can be a little we can be a little uh I don't want to say cavalier but you know it's easy to sort of gloss over these and not think about oh what's changed there or what are they doing I think it's it's not that you know they're going to do anything because it's a town on you know self-inflicted wounds here if they did something that was countered of what we want um relative relative to service alcohol but but I think that that it's worthwhile to sort of pose the question it's kind of getting a report back from them on it so I don't think it holds up the license but I do I'd be interested in what they're doing okay that would be great thanks um any other questions or discussion about cherry hill or no if not we'll take a vote Doug hi dylan hi test on hi ellie hi and I wrote I five to zero the cherry hill seasonal licenses renewed great super so okay I guess that ends our license portion of the evening and we can go on to our discussion items um well the first of which is the meeting time which um has again reared its ugly head and we're having I think Doug's committee had Doug has to leave in about a few minutes because the school committee has very cavalierly changed their their hours again so um I think our next meeting is again the 24th of Tuesday at six and I'm just wondering going forward if we have we can check our schedules and maybe come up with a different one I think we all like you know guest on I don't know what your schedule is like again but um check and we can yeah yeah yeah it's uh for the summer it's it's uh better than it has been so okay and then what about do you have your schedule for the fall yet for fall semester I do I in the fall I'm uh I'm teaching Monday evenings but that's okay so we could potentially move back to Thursday if that's suited people um so I don't know if we want to do this do we want to talk about this more now or Steve do you want to do a doodle poll or yeah I'd be happy to do a doodle poll um we will yeah for our next meeting since we did continue that to a specific time we'll have to meet at that time but I can do a doodle poll for the meetings in the future okay and then Doug is the school committee sticking to Tuesdays for the next for I don't know the next year or typically the the school committee generally stays with Tuesday nights that's kind of there they they avoid Mondays because you know town council and right those folks meet on Mondays usually so they go with Tuesday they occasionally have a subcommittee on another night but but the primary meetings are Tuesday nights all right and then Dylan do you have anything that might conflict within an evening because I know yeah uh Thursday nights are um just a second and the fourth Thursdays are usually we do zba's oh right you've got zba second and fourth and then Gaston were you on another thing on the the the town um no not not not not currently I mean I have a board meeting that I I don't know when it is anymore I think I guess because I missed it like I guess it's Monday stuff Monday okay all right and then this is the last one Hallie how about you do you have any like other conflicting stuff in the evening that aside from the usual aside from kid stuff now good okay all right well Steve what are you knock out that doodle poll at some point and we'll see what what day would work yes I will and I may suggest um as uh as our schedules grow ever more complex um if you do have something like only only the second and fourth Wednesday at you know 2 a.m. I'm available or whatever if you could just um okay could just try to just include a note or something so I can I could be aware of that okay second or four all right that would be okay so we're having to Dylan I don't know looks like we lost him disappeared okay anyway all right well enough with meeting time there he is oh hi Dylan sorry don't listen for a second so we have five minutes I have to go it's seven two so um okay so we're gonna kind of breeze through these adult use marijuana regulations done updates there okay so okay uh that's right lunch cart regulations I am still working on the draft I have emailed Gabrielle um and have not heard back from her because she is really busy with the drake right now so I'm waiting to have something next time um guidelines regulations for liquor license decisions still waiting to hear back from attorney okay license fee comparison I know we need to flip to just ask who has something to report this moment of shame doesn't even have something to report it's okay we'll we'll just put it off next time well no and and I but I'm particularly disappointed in myself because I was supposed to give a um I guess I can give a general remarks about what um Mandy Joe was talking about and I think we we did is it was it on the public agenda Steve no it was not and that was okay okay so can we put it on the on the public agenda for next time and then I I'm gonna put in my calendar to organize some talking points for to present yes I'm also um I did have something if we can just okay so so that's it for the discussion items so topics not randomly reasonably anticipated I will talk about the rental regulation thing so they are there the CRC is meeting on the 12th and they will have a draft and I asked Mandy to send me the draft of the regulations and then I'll send it to Steve hopefully she'll send it right away and then she can circulate that before the next meeting okay all right and then that'll they'll give you more framework to talk about and we'll see great what's going on in their minds so okay I put it on my calendar before our next meeting all right great so um oh review of minutes and oh wait sorry oh yeah we've got a bunch I had a few yeah yeah okay um did anyone have any questions about Steve's about the minutes Doug did you have a question I had one change on the I thought I had two copies of the July 15th minutes yeah near the end of it well you referenced all of us by you know like Mr. Maxwell at one point you mentioned Dylan so you may want to change that one reference first thing to you know prefix and and last thing that was the only thing I saw otherwise minutes of fun good catch thank you and did I include two copies of that day that's what I thought I saw that's actually Steve it's not Maxwell it's maxfield I thought to take a look at myself there but I can't pull it up because my internet's down so yeah there were two of that just one of them was underscore one in the title that's all huh well I think I actually meant to attach a different one but I didn't send it so I guess we'll do it next time next week so I'll make a motion to adopt the minutes as amended for July 15th 2021 and September 21st 20 no March 21st 2022 sorry all right thank you for the motion Doug is there a second second thanks Dylan um any further discussion about the minutes no let's take a vote uh Doug hi Dylan hi Gaston hi Ellie hi and I vote aye uh five to zero the minutes have been approved thank you very much and um is there what's next adjournment so any other business anything else anyone has to say six o'clock on the 24th is our next meeting six o'clock on the 24th and we hope the cousins has been continued to then and hopefully they'll you can get it over with but um and we'll be talking about the rental regulation by law all right so is there a motion to adjourn move thank you Doug is there a second second thanks Dylan um let's take a vote Doug hi Dylan hi Gaston hi Ellie hi and I vote aye five to zero the meeting is adjourned at 644 p.m. um thanks everybody um see you on the 24th and thanks Steve and how's that for timing Doug thank you all and uh have you all and you all gotten to the drink no not yet got the agenda around the yeah I went it's great and I might try to go to the uh open mic tonight I have a friend going to play guitar oh great have fun all right bye guys bye guys see you