 no that's a conglomerate isn't it yeah it is look at that babe that's the conglomerate we were looking for just look at that isn't that a beauty it is a conglomerate in a conglomerate what do you make of the clasts in the in the little one uh it looks like uh sandstone limestone in there deep time deep time we got deep time this is just beautiful a conglomerate clast in a conglomerate the conglomerate you have to have sand grains glued together to make sandstone broken and rolled to round them off because this is rounded and you have to have an ocean or a lake that has things living in it to precipitate and calcium carbonate to make a limestone broken loose and rounded off and then those have to get together in a beecher in a stream channel they have to be deposited with sand around them then they have to be cemented together with hardwater deposits then that has to be broken out rolled in a stream and rounded put together with all these other rocks coming from every which way all of those then have to be glued together with hardwater deposits and then we have to get from the stream the lake or whatever it was it was making these up here in the middle of the desert on a cliff and it's all in that one rock right there and there's really no other way to explain that rock in geology we often meet people who tell us that we do not know what we're talking about that the world looks like it is very very young that there's nothing in the world older than written history and we never tell those people that they're wrong that they're false that they've been let astray but we can tell these people it looks old that the scientific interpretation the best way to look at these rocks is that they tell a vast deep time so when one looks at a rock like this one that has little tiny remnants of old rocks glued together into a rock which is bounced around in the stream and rounded that then is glued in with a whole bunch of other rocks into another rock that has been bounced around in the stream and rounded that is sitting here glued with a bunch of these things on a cliff in the desert it is very hard to imagine how this could be something that is only six thousand years old and so all we do in science is what can we observe what can we test and what we can observe what we can test says really really old