 Hey, and I said I yelled again because it startled me because I wasn't quite fully awake You should write those down. I've been writing most all my crazy dreams. I know Well, you know what was funny about the polar bear thing is like, you know, I kind of woke up and was like, okay That's not real But then you know when you kind of you kind of come out of rem and then you go back in and so the dream sort of continued And so in the dream, I'm telling people like I had a dream that I had a polar bear as a pet Oh, wow, that was a dream because I live alone and I didn't talk to anybody about this, you know Yeah, when I finally woke up later, I was like So the second time you went under the polar bear was no longer there but Talking about the polar bear. I was talking about my dream that I had because I knew it wasn't real and everyone was like Okay, whatever. No one cares about your dream Rude rude rude dream roommates if I remember a dream a month It's a lot and my dreams suck compared to your guys I I already shared my Godzilla dream on a previous episode of Internet this one happened a month two months ago and I dreamt I was on I know this because I wrote I write these down when I wake up. Yeah, I was on an 18th century sailing ship flying through like a dreamscape of space But like surrounding the edges of space were like these coral Like formations and outside were coming like these giant lobsters And so I had to kind of commandeer these elephants to help me fight them. What are you eating before bed? Probably well, you know But the thing is like you make a good point if you write down the stuff when you first wake up There's so many details that you just won't remember even within the hour. Oh, no, you totally forget. So I write literally This is literally just a vomit and yeah, you know, and it's a weird And it's weird because the ship is feels like a restaurant, you know because my dad runs our restaurant like a seafood restaurant for like a buffet restaurant and The sailor bore the sailors on board look like pirates, but they also look like office workers So they're pirates with ties kind of you know Anyways, I have to keep off the ship with elephants Well, it's it's the dreams dreams are so you know, sometimes you're like, okay That's an anxiety dream, you know, like whether it was weird or not You kind of get where it was coming from or you know, it's some sort of like or a finance You're worried about finances or whatever you can kind of make sense of it But then there are dreams where you know, for example, my dad died 14 years ago and it's like He's in my dreams a lot, but he wasn't for 10 years Interesting, you know and like in the dream, we don't talk about the like he's just sort of there and things are normal But like there's always something a little off about it But it's like why did it take so long for my brain to start like manifesting this? Do you ever dream about stuff that literally just comes out of nowhere like you wake up? It's like Yeah, like having a polar bear as a pet Oh, yeah, no, I think that's the norm for people is to dream about stuff that comes out of no because I dreamt I had another dream About Danny McBride the actor, but he had supernatural powers and he was just going like psychotic on everyone and I had to escape on an end like a end loader Like I apprehended one from a work site and I was just trying to drive and get away But it was too slow Roger has the best dreams. I want to have Roger's dreams I'm gonna I'm gonna subscribe to Roger's dreams. I want them to be available as a service I I'm gonna take the advice of one of the chat Chatters in the previous episode and write this down into a book of like now. No No, I yeah, I tweet all my dreams up Are you? Yeah, right after they happen. I wake up and I try to treat them out That's actually a pretty good idea for a Twitter account, you know, I like read my read my Twitter account Well, I don't do it all the time But you should know that your son has a tricorder hat on yeah, I know All right, you guys ready? Yep. Here we go Daily Tech news show is powered by its audience not outside organizations to find out more head to Daily Tech news show comm slash support This is the Daily Tech news for Friday June 15th 2018 in Los Angeles on Tom Merritt and from studio feline I'm Sarah Lane and from Cleveland. I'm Len Peraldo. Len has been fighting with AT&T That's why he sounds a little lower than usual, but you know who's here to cheer him up Patrick Norton I'm in Alameda where we have amazing internet that costs practically nothing until the startup fails And I'll have to go back to count cast with my tail between my legs And now to balance all of that out our producer Roger Chang. I have spectrum It's working today it was and it stopped working for about 30 minutes And I was wondering if I had to drive up to Tom's place I also have spectrum, but Roger spectrum is yeah I have the same region of spectrum that Sarah has and mine's fine Rogers for some reason is not Sitting on the line somewhere. All right. We are gonna talk with Patrick a little bit about parts Used parts and graphics card prices coming down, but let's start with a few tech things you should know Well, then you either will love or hate this story I'm not sure yet AT&T has closed the deal and has merged with Time Warner The deal was signed in October of 2016 but faced opposition from the US Department of Justice and it's been hung up for some time The merged company now owns a major ISP wireless carrier direct TV HBO Turner Networks and Warner Brothers film studio Ride hailing company DD Xu Xing announced it will expand its service to Melbourne starting June 25th after a month-long test in Geelong go cats Expansion to Australia puts DD in direct competition with Uber and Ola Which by the way DD is an investor in both of those Also taxify operates in Australia, which DD is also an investor in anyway DD previously expanded into Taiwan Mexico and Brazil this year So this continues their international expansion. What kind of cats are the mascot cats? They're AFL of No, I meant like what kind of breed of cat. I have no idea. Okay, well go cats Pebble owner Fitbit will end support for Pebble watches on June at 30th The group of developers have created an independent project called rebel dot.io That's where you find out more information to continue support for existing Pebble watches Pebble users are encouraged to create a rebel account Before June 30th in order to keep their settings. However, the new service may not be ready in time for the shutdown Hmm The 3gpp group that oversees international cellular standards has approved the standalone 5g new radio spec That's the last step to complete the 5g standard 3gpp approved the non standalone version back in December That's the one used to build 5g on top of existing LTE networks We told you about that back in December this new standalone spec is for completely new Implementations now working groups are still going to address some known gaps in the standard There are definitely issues that will come up as 5g is implemented that will require some tweaks But the 3gpp considers the 5g system now officially complete So there you go. The standard has been ripped. All right. Let's talk a little bit more about screens Let's do it. Let's talk about new iPhone screens and let's speculate on them Perhaps sources told the Wall Street Journal that Apple is ordering more supply chain parts for an upcoming LCD screen phone Then for two OLED models now Apple currently has one OLED phone and two LCD models But is expected to announce two OLED models and an LCD model later this year this autumn to be specific So Patrick, I'm kind of not surprised by this the idea that it's like Oh, well, they they expect the cheaper phone to sell bigger But I guess that's not usually been the case with that. Well, it's also it's one of the things where you have superior technology Dripping its way down. I assume to the less expensive versions of the phone You know at this point, I'm so curious to see what the fallout is You know, is there going to be something like the iPhone 10 this year? Is there an iPhone 11? What's the iPhone 9 gonna be? The rumors are still too early, I mean I don't know the best the best guesses that I've seen from the people that are usually right are two OLED models that are like the iPhone 10 One big one small and then a a six inch kind of in between those two sizes with an LCD screen And that's the one it seems like the parts suppliers are saying yeah They're ordering more of parts for that one than for the two OLED ones. That would make sense That I mean the OLED is a price premium. We also they've my understanding is that they've had difficulty securing supply of OLED screens So I think they're looking for a vendor on that might be You know, that was one of the issues that was sort of floating up through the rumor mills You know, I I'll be honest with you I'm particularly interested because I partially want to stay on iOS, but I was playing around with the the one six The one plus six that Shannon had in for review and the cameras are so much better than on my phone right now I'm actually thinking about you know giving up on my headphone jack to have a better camera So and the OLED screens look amazing on the phones. What iPhone are you using now? I'm using a fantastic iPhone model 6 which I waited You know as long as I could to buy and then bought a 128 gigabyte version and and now it's to the point where the low light The the this current generation of phones right now the low light photography is so much better than this phone I'm actually starting to have urges Well Much better the camera was you know My first reaction is like really iPhone not good, but the six didn't have the the Telephoto lens right you had to go to that so yeah and the the low light performance They did a big jump on the seven I mean I I approach phones at this point kind of like I approach cars I want to buy the least expensive like I buy Subaru's I want something it's going to last until I can't stand it anymore and we'll take the rest of my life to fall apart Phones fortunately take a lot less time to fall apart and unlike Subaru's they tend not to They said they just don't age well phones don't age well Deep buy and published research in science describing a machine learning system that can take a collection of pictures of a scene And then predict what the scene would look like from a viewpoint not represented in the images The system creates a representation of space based on two images Then a separate generative query network or GQN uses one image to determine the identity To I'm sorry to identify position and color of objects as well as shadows and other things related to perspective Took a couple months to train the GQN and it's unclear if this approach can be adapted beyond the narrow problem of predicting What a scene looks like from a different angle? But it's quite in advance. Yeah, be able to fill in the gaps like that I'm I look at this and I'm torn between being like that line I reread that that last line like six times because I was giggling, you know It can be adapted beyond the narrow problem of predicting what I see But if you think about what this involves, you know, if I am guiding a vehicle, you know What can I determine? What can I assume? What is going to change based on what I can actually physically see or if I'm trying to guide? Say, you know autonomous vehicles that are going to help put on a fire or something There's this it's a really simple problem Except it's incredibly complex and the idea is it can be sort of smeared across in terms of improving how things function is amazing but it you know, it's like Can we adapt this thing? I don't know Can we get beyond one angle like one angle is a step But we're gonna need a lot more of that for this to work and things like self-driving cars Yeah, and I know we're not talking about video But you know just because you know, I think of like home studio stuff like if I had two angles And I can somehow figure out what a third one would be without actually having to buy an extra camera pretty cool All right, moving on. Let's talk about opera, right? Who wants to talk about opera? Oprah Winfrey my friend and yours will create original programs that embrace her incomparable ability to connect with audiences around the world Those are Apple's words the company didn't say if Winfrey would appear on any of the shows But that's sort of probably a given financial details also not disclosed in this deal Apple also said the deal would not affect own which is Winfrey's own TV network launched in 2011 now owned by Discovery She's also the CEO and chairman of own. She also has a contract there through 2025 So not exclusive with Apple Apple also made deals for more than a dozen shows with a lot of celebrities Reese Witherspoon, Steven Spielberg, Octavia Spencer, Kevin Durant, two-name a few. You also might recall the bombas have a deal with Netflix You and Jennifer Aniston as well. Yeah, in fact, I think Reese and Jennifer are working on a show together That sounds great. Maybe I just yeah There's way the list goes on and on and on is the point and everybody wonders what they're gonna do with this like Oprah doesn't appear on her YouTube channel Eileen my wife worked with own on their YouTube channel and she never appeared on that She doesn't appear on own beyond her own show that often So it's not a given that she would she would actually have a show here But Oprah also putting her stamp on a show It means it's gonna have much more success than it would otherwise and everybody's wondering Okay, what's Apple gonna do with all of this high quality talent that they've signed on are they gonna make it available? Free on Apple devices Are they gonna do a subscription service which one insider said that's what Apple told them is gonna be a combination where you get it Free on the Apple TV and the iPhone, but if not you can pay for it. It's it's it's all up in the air now It's I it's all part of there. They're finally starting to battle back. I think it gets Netflix. I mean Netflix I want to say spent six point three billion dollars on content I think they're up to projecting eight billion this year. Yeah. Yeah, and I you know Apple is so far behind that I don't know It feels like one of the yet another front where Apple is playing catch up, you know on the on the iTunes unless they're playing a different game That's the thing right like they don't need to create a Netflix with a huge back catalog They they can use it as a way to sell their hardware which Netflix doesn't have that Okay, I'm just I don't know I'm watching all of the the mergers and acquisitions at the super high level For example, we were talking about it in the AT&T merger where we now have some of everything It feels it just feels like the Google Apple Amazon battles are getting more vicious where content is well and content is no longer a business It's it's it's a thing that you add into another business and use to to drive those other so Yeah, that first business. Well, and we still you know, we don't you know You don't report every single deal that these companies are making with celebrities or or you know media professionals But Oprah Winfrey is a big one. They arguably one of the biggest ones that you could possibly get But we're still at that point of like wow kind of big deal, but what will it be? No one knows Making deals, but we don't know what that looks like yet. Yeah But I mean like to put this into context your term of Netflix who obviously desperately needs content to keep people to pay their subscriptions, right? They're they're spending more than anybody else six six point three billion Amazon scaled up to something like four billion dollars and apples Yeah, you know, they're billion two billion dollars this year. I think it was like a billion dollars Yeah, but that's you're comparing apples with Amazons and Netflix's a coin of phrase Get it cuz it oranges I'm with I got it. I got it. It just wasn't very good. I get it No, but I guess my I'm just repeating myself at this point But my point is like yeah, but they don't need to do it exactly the same way So no, but it's still I guess HBO doesn't have as big of a catalog and they're doing well as well Sure, but they also have a huge existing revenue stream. It's going to take a very very long Oh Well, I don't know I guess I'm thinking of this from the cord cutter perspective and not from the giant corporate maneuvering perspective Yeah, for me the cord cutter perspective at this point is like crap Is there another servicing? I'm gonna have to buy to get this one amazing show that'll be interesting Scientists Adelphi University of Technology published details in nature of the first system for reliably triggering a quantum pairing effect called entanglement It's a major step toward creating secure quantum networks. The effect worked across two nodes About two meters apart the next step will be to add a third node for true Networking and the scientists hope to connect four Dutch cities, you know, at least like one set up in each city Through entanglement in 2020 to create the first demonstration of a quantum internet Not much to discuss here other than like wow. Good job Also entanglement is a funny term For something really cool, but okay, that's what it's called. I really see I do I guess I'm just mess of cables Entanglement to me is when two particles that are separated by distance operate in the same way because And I'm thinking about Jim and Jody in that rom-com that came out last week Hey, at least it's not entrapment And a gadget source that Microsoft's next HoloLens will use Qualcomm's XR1 platform meant for VR and AR and gadget sources agree with the Rautocom that the new HoloLens will arrive in January Qualcomm says the XR1 delivers directional audio 3d overlays and 4k video at 60 frames per second Qualcomm also counted Vive, Vuzix and meta as partners when the XR1 was announced back in May So yeah, a lot of people just assumed it'd be the Snapdragon 845 But I guess if you know if we'd really thought about it it would make sense that Qualcomm coming out with an AR platform ought to be used and and It sounds like it will be I I'm curious if this is going to be available for the public and we kind of talked about this when Brad Sam's Had his report that his sources were saying it's coming out in Q1 Are we gonna get a developers kit again, or is this gonna be the thing where we start selling it to the public? What's your best guess I Think they have to start selling it to the public, but I think the public is gonna be more on the business side I'm still Recoiling and horror from the the experience. I expected based on all of the videos they produced and the I'm looking through a brick in a wall HoloLens experience that the actual headset delivered. So I'm very very I mean, I think if they open it up and give you a better perspective I'm also really kind of curious to see where the whole, you know, I Just want to try it right. I tried it. Yeah, and I it was it was cool. I mean now on one hand It was really amazing But all of their videos that they had produced for it had basically but they'd use stereo cameras and you had this full You know this massive field of view and then when you actually put the HoloLens on You know, literally there was like a block this big that you were looking through and it was very You know, it was cool to look through that block But it was it was a huge letdown compared to what see I had the opposite I had the opposite reaction simply because I expected that limited view to be worse than it was So I guess it's all about expectations either way. It is a limited view. You're not getting around that. It's a good That's all right Folks, if you want to get all the tech headlines each day in about five minutes Be sure to subscribe to daily tech headlines at daily tech headlines comm We bring you good news GPU prices have become affordable again. Hooray Because people don't care about Bitcoin mining anywhere. Well, they don't care Prices come down which is you know, kind of town about the same thing. I guess like if the price is down, why don't I care? Yeah, yeah, and also that that there are more specialty Cards for if you're serious about it in the in the areas where you can still make money You get these specialty cards. You don't go and get an off the rack card anymore. So so yeah also With graphics cards coming down it may be that other Parts start to spike For for whatever reason, right? You you may go through this again with a different part Especially the u.s. Announcing tariffs on electronics components coming in from china today So let's talk a little bit first of all about the graphics cards patricks But also about where to find cheaper parts particularly used parts I think used parts give a lot of people the willies because they're like yeah, is that reliable should I You know, is my machine going to burn up if I buy this Oh, man, um working backwards Yeah, okay, so buying used gpus I have We did a thing on tech thing about this where I talked to two friends mine one of whom reviews graphics cards for living and the other one Uh, who reviews other things for living but has 19 systems with 76 gpus In a mining uh operation. Yeah Most of those were acquired before the prices Went berserk. So if you haven't been following gpu prices, um, you know Stuff was at msrp say around. I don't know april may 2017 and then they were like 50 bucks 60 bucks, you know a $350 card or a $400 card was selling for like a you know, I want to say a $50 premium And then as as bitcoin prices scaled and people get into ethereum mining And scarcity got particularly brutal because they simply couldn't produce enough cards to fulfill demand By christmas time things had gone completely berserk and you were looking at paying, you know Let's say 800 dollars or 1100 dollars for a $550 msrp gpu The gtx 1070 I thought I got ripped off on because it cost me 450 bucks in june Of 2017 was selling for 850 or 900 dollars around uh, december january at the tail end of 2017 or 2018 It was it was nuts. Um, it is impacted PC sales because uh It was just too expensive for most people, you know, but 1100 pc became a $2,200 pc Mostly because of the gpu price increases which mostly impacts gamers and people who are doing high powered machines for video Rendering and and photoshop and and stuff like that But the other thing that happened Around the same period in time is ram prices have gone kind of berserk. So 2016 ram Because there was an excess of ram production and not a huge demand Prices, you know, you were looking at a 16 gigabyte Memory kit to eight gigabyte sticks. Uh, corsairs particularly good example. I like their corsair vengeance ram It dropped down to 60 bucks for 16 gigabytes of ram. That is the lowest it has ever been You know, people forget that a year before it was up around 170 dollars and but literally you were looking at 60 to 120 bucks for ram for the better part of a year almost two years between 2015 and 2017 and as Cell phone manufacturers android cell phone manufacturers started to think of additional ram as being a premium and a differentiator Especially in china They started hurling ram into phones And between that and a couple other things scaling up memory prices started to go berserk So right now the memory you could buy in, you know, the summer of 2016 for 60 bucks is now selling for 130 bucks Which isn't bad. It's still a lot It's still, uh, you know 40 or 60 bucks down from where memory price is peaked in i want to say 2014 um memory manufacturers think this is great Um, but we're also looking at possibly samson bringing online a couple of big fabs this year that should help Uh a fulfill the demand for ram and b bring the price back down but You know, it's amazing to look at how much sort of the system prices have fluctuated because ram's effectively doubled in price over the last 18 months and GPUs went from sort of msrp or a little bit under msrp to at least two and a half times msrp and now are back Uh, maybe not at msrp, but certainly close enough that it's not emotionally traumatizing Uh to buy a new system So, uh graphics cards getting cheaper ram prices getting more expensive. What do we do? Uh, you know, if uh For me the perform because I I like to run 32 000 things simultaneously on my system I try to put 16 gigabytes to every system I own. Um, and that's just Excuse me. I don't expect that price to change too much. Um, the nice thing is that GPUs have got more affordable. So You know, that's not too bad. And I think it's come down in price. It kind of offsets the cost of memory Uh as ssds have come down in price considerably. So, uh, you know, what would have been a $340 One terabyte ssd is now selling for about 250 bucks. So I think you choose carefully But you know, if you're buying a system right now GPUs are affordable again CPUs especially AMD Ryzen's like there's a special right now on amazon. That's a AMD Ryzen 1700 is selling for 200 bucks Which is a huge drop from what it originally sold for the 1800 x I use in my primary video editing and gaming system I want to say, you know, I think I paid $500 for it. It sells for around $300 now So I think if you shop carefully, um, you can build a system, uh, you can actually afford to build a system now I guess would be this the way of putting it real quickly. Is it is it safe to buy used parts? What should you know? So I mentioned my two friends one of whom were reviews, uh GPUs the other one who has the largest collection of GPUs of anyone I personally know And what was interesting is the guy that's got 76 GPUs. He's had four fail In about a year of 24 7 365 operations And his observation was that the GPUs don't fail. You you can actually wear out a GPU Which is gets into a really geeky conversation. Uh, that'll put everybody to sleep starting with me But it takes a staggering number of operations to do that The problem with most GPUs is the quality of the components around it primarily the capacitors So what he did is he looked to find out which models of GPUs had the longest, uh Warranty and what he found is when he looked at them side by side the Better warned the the GPUs with the longest warranty had considerably better components And he feels that you should be comfortable in buying used cards Maybe not off of ebay, but certainly from friends or relatives or friends of friends And that's where it gets kind of interesting because a lot of people expect at some point There'd be just kind of a a glut of used cars to show up on the market. I haven't seen it Maybe i'm looking at the wrong places. Maybe I need to spend more time on ebay searching for used gpu's You know, if you've got a a friend Who's selling it? It's probably not too bad an idea if you're getting off of ebay I would expect it came out of a warehouse somewhere near You know a very cheap source of electricity And it's probably been pretty heavily abused and there's really no way to know how badly that that has been abused in terms of buying used parts like You know tom's old system and i'm going to buy it. That's fine You know super cheap gpu's off ebay. I'd get a little uptight about but I'd be able to write about those normally Well, thank you, badrick. Don't worry Thanks to everybody also who participates in our sub reddit first thing I read every morning You could submit stories and also vote on other stories that are submitted daily tech news show dot reddit.com Also, we're on facebook facebook.com slash groups slash daily tech news show chat with us. However you like All right, moving on to the thing of the day christ christensen We haven't checked in with him in a while But he always has great travel tips and this is a new way to save on hotels This is chris christensen from amateur traveler with another tech in travel minute When you're booking your flight and your hotel online You may or may not know that you can often save money by booking it as a package And when you're booking it as a package you're booking it from the same company and at the same time I have sometimes saved enough money for instance on a hotel When I booked it with the flight that basically the hotel was free There's more profit in hotels and therefore more flexibility than there are in flights And so sometimes booking it together can save you money But the problem is that most people don't want to do that or I say most people Expedia says 46 of us travelers prefer to book their flight and hotels separately So what they've done is after you go on Expedia and you book a flight for a short period of time That will give you hotel options that will give you the kind of savings that you would get if you booked it as a package They say on average customers will save 43 percent, which is significant So good on you Expedia something you might want to try out in the future I'm chris christensen from amateur traveler. Yeah, that is kind of nifty I guess you have to choose to book through Expedia in that case, but it might be worth looking into Why I think it's almost 50 of people don't like the idea of bundling those things together because I because I don't I I want to have the the flexibility to to not have to book at the same time I might I might want to book my hotel later Because you don't you don't get as much There's not as much of gaming the system as there is with flight fairs. Right, right And and I may have some points. I want to cash in whatever right I just I don't like having to be locked in and making that decision all at once I mean, I don't either but I wonder why I guess there's sort of a perception that It's a good deal. Yeah that that restricts you in the end I will also I mean I've also seen for a lot of services I've looked at where the bundle was a you know a car rental that was twice what it would be If I was going through directly through the car vendor or a hotel deals that were You know worse than the you know, I mean I I think I think you I think I automatically at this point assume that the buy I'm looking at them like oh one I'm going to give Expedia chance again because I haven't used them in forever and two I'll look at the bundles but so many times the bundles for example through I want to say southwest We're just awful I was like, no, I'm not going to pay that much for the hotel that I didn't want to buy with my with my flight All right, let's see what's in the mail bag sarah. Let's do it. Albert from maryland aka mar mac cheese Has some thoughts on the whole idea of perhaps walmart and microsoft getting together to do an amazon go type cashier list store Albert says I worked for walmart for almost 17 years. My wife is coming up on her 20th year in november There have been rumors on the walmart subreddit about stores eventually going cashier list in the future Will they offer the cashiers jobs with the online grocery pickup also known as ogp as personal shoppers? Here's why that might make sense My wife's store started the ogp service last november works pretty good biggest problem They have not having enough personal shoppers to pick up all the merch for the customers in a timely manner Which obviously is important if they could move move most of those cashiers to ogp That would solve the biggest issue I wouldn't be surprised to see this happen sooner than later because walmart is scared of amazon's grocery delivery Also over the past few years. They've been making changes much faster than they used to I would say albert, you know Gosh, you know 17 years. He probably knows walmart pretty intimately Yeah, no kidding and and this is the kind of thing that I often am at a loss for an example But I know from just studying history that what happens is there are jobs that you either Don't have enough people for or can't afford to pay people for or haven't even invented yet Because you just didn't think I would ever have the people for that when you loosen up like oh You don't have to do that grunt work anymore that the ai can do Now we can actually have you be a personal shopper and improve our service that happens very often This is a great example of it. Thank you albert Thank you very much. Let's check in with len peralta who has been illustrating the show len What do you have for us? Yes, you know, I think this has something to do with the fact that I am AT&T in time Warner the big story of the week, of course is the merger of time Warner and AT&T And this is a visual representation of how I feel about AT&T eating time Warner if you're not seeing the video essentially what it is It's AT&T is some sort of creature that is swallowing a slug-like thing that looks like time Warner and I mean great great nails great. Yeah. Yeah I thought of AT&T in that way, but it's not the most flat representation of AT&T Right, it looks like a yeah 300 pound golem swallowing the world's ugliest slug weird worm Exactly. And remember folks at spectrum. We know you're not that time Exactly Hey, I also want to remind people that if they're looking for a quick commission, they can go to my online store I just introduced this thing called quick bits, which are very affordable quick Art that comes with a time lapse of video free. 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I mean, this is like 1986 seven Well, you were a princess. Oh, you're talking about king's quest four perils the rosella I had that game and the reason is because You you come across like a little Pan like creature playing the loot. Yes, and you have to and so when someone said loot, you know old school loot I was like, oh, yeah, I remember that game. I never wanted or anything I just eventually got tired of it and stopped playing that's supposed to you You're supposed to wait for him and you're supposed to give him some that distracts him And he leaves the flute and you're supposed to take it Yeah something like that It's the first game It was definitely the yeah, it was the first game where I can remember being like, oh cool. It's like a little land and you know First computer game that featured a day and night cycle. Oh Good trivia Like you actually had to wait at night for certain things to happen. Yeah, that's right. That's right And I of course had no patience and was like mama. I don't want to play this anymore Go back to Oregon trail. I have this There's an Oregon trail Great my my six-year-old Tristan loves or the Oregon trail card game Really? Yeah How how much do you find yourself chuckling at that from time to time more than I can adequately express You know that and the whole like he'll say something I'll be like and you are eaten by a gruel and he'll just give me this look and I'm like I can't wait to dump that game on you Zork the board game I wouldn't you know, I wonder if that's not open I know I'm sourcing me. I'm uncooperated. You can't do that. That's I still have a zork mid somewhere in my bag or box That's that that was the golden age of felies and felies were basically When they used to sell computer games to kind of add value to it They would throw in things like objects from the game world to kind of lend an authenticity to it Especially for infocom because all the games are text adventures So depending on what you got like if you had wishmaster Um Not once you got with deadline early cool. They were like newspapers and clues. Yeah on the mask that came out with What are we calling this episode? Um dreams as we can't do graphing graphics card pricing Or phones don't age well or entangled entanglements graphics card pricing is It's it's yeah to the point grap graphing graphics card pricing. Oh, that's good. Yeah. Yeah, okay. I got I I didn't quite catch that. Yeah, I'm trying to do the batman where you get multiple titles for the next episode Um, so I have a question for anybody here who does any work in premiere? Oh, yeah, sure. Okay. So I I have a premiere project that was given to me plus a bunch of media. However Between the time that I gave this person some some video Files which were avi And when he gave them back to me they are now mp4 So premier is like can't find the files even though they're on my computer What would be the recommended? conversion You can you can point to it You can force it to look it won't won't take it that way premiere is like won't look at avi Not mine. Anyway, not these or mp4. You mean Well mp4 it would my original files are an avi because it got converted after I sent them out No, no, but like I think you should be able to Like when it looks for the assets You can blank it out and force it Really, I wonder if you can relink them because I used to do Guy and Berkeley. Okay. All right. I mean, I'll I'll poke around a little bit more I'm just like way better in final cut and this just premier is you know, premier's kind of wonky if you're used to final cut But yeah, I know that a lot better Yeah, well, that's what everybody says. So I'm like, all right. I'm just gonna get used to it But oh man, I can't seem to figure out this It looks like premiere 2018 just Won't at least as of April it looks like Good lord, it looks like they changed something in the last Update that just stopped it from importing avis So one people have been doing is converting using handbrake to convert the apis to another format and then importing that Okay, because I think if I imported to mp4 I'd be fine Yeah, you know, it's like these aren't high quality to the point where I would really care that much I just need it to be a different. Yeah, I mean I was just a friend of mine I had forgotten about handbrake. Okay. Yeah, and a buddy a buddy of mine who can afford Whose business can afford any of the tools actually uses handbrake for a lot of stuff sort of the quality. Yeah, I mean Okay, yeah, we used handbrake conversion to to make web versions of sorden laser video That were like shot super high quality and work great All right, we'll see You know what you could also give media encoder that I mean, I'm assuming you have creative cloud I do. Yeah media encoders should allow you to convert because that's that's kind of default for everybody I hate media encoder. Do you mean adobe's media encoder? Yeah. Yeah I just last night. I was helping somebody it's just it's It I had worked with it a lot in the battle days and it just tended to be miserable And I started using it again last year and it's just miserable in different ways We it's it it just sorry It's a perfectly reasonable tool to use to create exports from premier. I just still hate it with the You know, the more I use it the less I like it I mean part of it is understanding The whole workflows media encoders there just to encode things into a video format Is there a an advantage to using media encoder over handbrake roger? Um, if you want to do a stack of them Like a bunch of clips it will you just set everything and you let it run You can do that hammer And what I find is I just find it just better integrates with all the the adobe apps So yeah, but even like if I if I export from Uh adobe after effects you have to kick it to media Yeah, you you basically have to as far as I know you have on the way out encoder. Yeah Export from premier. It's just For anything you don't need to you can export directly out of premier But you can't do you can't do what would most people do is send it a media encoder and continue editing on another project While it runs out. Yeah See, I'm like, I'm so used to quick time. I'm like, there's gotta be some conversion thing in here And I'm like, I can't not with avis. I mean handbrake is I almost I had with handbrake is it's it was always Yeah, I mean part of it is like I I've always converted things into uh, uh intra codec Format which is basically much easier for editing like, you know, anything that's anything that's used for For delivery and floors or whatever all I'm just thinking about probably has a convertion option, doesn't it? But this vlc Yes It's a little non-intuitive though. That's my That's okay. I like the head vlc Head vlc is awesome I just like handbrake because it's just easier for me to load a file into handbrake and export it Yeah, it's pretty dead easy. Yeah batch stuff Because yeah, and vlc. I mean I use vlc all the time like people there's video file one open download vlc. Yeah, exactly Same thing the other day where I had, you know, somebody that was you know, just less sort of like I don't understand file whatever Was like everything's ruined. I'm like try to open it in vlc and she was like it worked It's funny. I've had every time Yeah, whenever I've locked myself out of my house. I just point vlc at it When I need a hamburger vlc Can you do that for me open source program? Thank you It's weird like every revision they do to premiere sucks in a way because they move a bunch of tools Where they used to be and you're like, I can't find anyone you get upset like I do um, and I also don't like the There's some issues I have with their kind of user friendly like let's start with a new project. It's like doesn't help um But I've got it open right now and I look at it and I'm like I want to die But these are the sorts of things where after a week of using any of these programs you're just like Oh, yeah, I don't even notice all that stuff that bothered me anymore. You know, once you get your shortcuts coming Yeah, one different colors and all this It's it's cool. I mean the most the the biggest the biggest thing with premiere that why it's so awesome is it works with It literally integrates with uh, uh, photoshop after effects Yeah, so like if I do a title animation and as you know once you kick over to Adobe After Effects, it's the interface is totally different Uh, not totally different, but it's different enough. That's not not a one for one Um, but you can do your animation and you and you can literally have a dynamic link of it into your You know timeline and so if you don't like it later on you can still adjust it. So you're always bouncing between Applications the only thing is you want to be careful because sometimes it's not the most stable thing and what a save often But it does that too. You can actually have it. I'll save like every 10 seconds auto save AT&T just did something good And and I know that's going to be hard for you to swallow land. I apologize about tolerant plants But uh, they are rebranding time Warner as Warner media So no more and the reason I say that's good is no more of the like time Warner, but not that time right, right, right It's just it's Warner media makes perfect sense But not that Warner media No, there's just one probably Man 84.5 billion dollars Yep, that's a lot of money. It's a lot of cheddar. I could use like a quarter of that, you know, just buy me out too With cheeseburger with cheddar Seriously, throw me two million. I'll never bug you again. Oh, this is interesting cops in kansas Stopped someone and Found meth in their car, but to get consent to search the car They used google translate because the driver only spoke spanish And the judge is like, mm. That's not consent. Wow. Google translate Google translate is not reliable enough to have a clear Expression that's good. That's a really interesting case Because that's interesting. I think google would probably argue That's pretty reliable and the law requires that officers make it clear that you have the right to refuse Consent and that that's where the judge was like. It's not It's not clear That this translation would make that clear. So so the next time this happens to me I'm just like I don't speak english Just don't say that We're good. Can't search the car the officer asked puedo buscar el auto, which means can I find the car? And I was like, yeah, you're looking at it. He's like, yes, you totally can because it's right in front of you, man I don't know. Can you May I yeah, you have to say may I mother may I Let's just start the journey to a bad night at the jersey shore No, no kidding. Can I get your car son? I'm sorry officer. Do you mean may you look in the car? I'm sure you're able to look at the car Yeah, you know Because I'm sure the officer would be very cooperative after you said that no no Although my personal favorite one was the cop that was trying to look in the back of the Had a suzu with the big back windows and he was trying to be subtle With a mag light that was like this big and and you know talking to me But I was like, would you like to inspect to the rear of the vehicle for you know, I don't know Yeah I wasn't looking in there like dude, you're sweeping the trunk and looking side-eyed through it. I mean Yeah, you want to look in the trunk? No, I was scarring I was I was I literally reading this thing from uh, why did they call you? Rattrick Patrick Thank you Like uh, it was a defense attorney or something for like, you know For criminal cases, but you had high-profile clients Doesn't matter never say anything to the police always take your right to remain quiet. Don't say anything Yeah, this is big thing. It doesn't matter. Even if you're jovial or you're just don't say anything Because once you start talking when they pull you over they can use it doesn't make for a very good podcast though I could read Emily Dickinson when I've been pulled over Again, I'm sure that makes the officer You could actually do the podcast of patrick's time We're gonna ask Patrick about that for the patrons for the video folks. Thanks for watching We'll see you. Uh, we'll see you guys monday. Have a one