 Mae Prif Weiniddo yn ystod, Johnathan gadewch i gweithio'r gondol, i gondol iawn yr ystyried, a'r gondol a'r ddeithasol, a'r rhaglaethau ar hyn o'r 2023 ales y gynhyrchol. Cynhyrchu'r Prif Weiniddo yn y Nowe Yn Mynd i'r Rhaglenol, dwi'n mynd i wneud hynny'n gwneud yn y Prif Weiniddo. Llywodraeth y Ddefnyddiad Gweithydd yma i ei ddweud i'r cyfeithio yng ngynhyrchu ar y Ddefnyddiad Gweithio ar y Dyma, Johnathan yn gallu ei ddweud i'r cyffredinol gan yw ymddiadau yw'r cyrraedd yng Nghymru a'r ddegyfnidol yw'r ddweud o'r cyfrifolau yn gweithio'r ddynnu'r ddynnu'r ddynnu. Mae'r Llyfr Nidrfyn yn ystod yn gystafell ddangos i'r ddynnu a'r ddynnu'r ddynnu ar y ddynnu ddynnu a'r ddynnu i dysgu'r ddynnu i'r ddynnu fwrdd o'r 160 o'r uwch. Mae Ysgolwch Ysgolwch yn gweithio'r parameters byddai i'w halen â'r newid. Mae llawer o'r awgfyrdd a'r awgfyrdd ac'r bannagol i bryhau sydd anhygoel i'r newid ymlaen â hyn sy'n gael y cyffredin a'r cyfgrifion. Roedd yn gyn принio ymlaen gyntafol – bult yn wedi eu arliew. Roedd yn gornol gan biannol i'w pethau. Mae'n fôn nhw ymlaen yng Nghyrwng. Rwy'n ei meddwl, Rwy'n digwydd fyddwch i'w argyrchinau'r organ質unrwydd. A reddau ratio'r diogelu ar gyfer gwelch gynymau ac yn gyffindig â'r cyfanyl lun Waiddorod. A'r gwelch o gweld citwau sydd yma, rydyn i gweithio yn iechyd, mae gennym hynny hynny, y dyfodol gyda'r gweithio. Rydyn nhw pethau'n gweld favon oherwydd yng Nghymru gweithio'r gweithio ar gyfer gwelch gweithio sydd ymgyrchymau... ym gyfanyl ar y cyfanyl. I don't think that you can hear me, so I'm just going to come to you Najib, like I just said, too many young people engage in this. I don't see my dad running with a ballot box, or my great uncle running with a ballot box, or even trying to beat people up at an election polling unit. But there seems to be a growing, and it's not just in Nigeria, we see it around Africa. Of course, I wanted to mention that. Yes, why do we keep seeing young people perpetrating these acts of violence? In terms of Africa, a lot of our young people make up the majority of the population that participates in elections, so they are very much interested. Of course, with youth comes energy also. Like you said, you won't see your dad running around trying to snatch a ballot box or fight somebody. Unfortunately, in Nigeria, in most of Africa, a lot of the young people, let me not say a lot, but definitely some volume of young people are not gainfully employed. So it's easier for someone, for some politician to go to them and say, have this money, go and disrupt this, go and snatch that, or go and beat up these people. So if you look at different regions, different countries, the richer those countries are, the more employed the youth population is. The less you see people go to maybe Abu Dhabi. Okay, they don't elect over there. Maybe Leichenstein or all of those countries that have high GDP per capita. It's difficult for you to see young people being used to go and snatch ballot boxes, fight people during elections. So I think it's unemployment is youthful exuberance sometimes. The fact that youths are the most people engaged in election activities, these are some of the things that make them to be the ones that carry out these things. However, I think with more information, with more gainful employment, with even the politicians talking more positively about the elections, we will have a reduction in these things. So let's talk about the weaponisation of poverty, which we have mentioned. Many have argued that if you are hungry, then you would try to go in a different direction as opposed to allowing those who have kept you in that position to continuously use you. And then you talked about more information. We see a lot of people having these conversations. You enter into an Uber, the taxi driver is having that conversation, you're in a bus, somebody is having a conversation. These conversations are had, but then in what context I think that's the question. Yes. How do we tailor these conversations at their level, to their level? Because again, let's take for example the ensar situation. We also saw young people who came against the people who were saying, let's put an end to bad governance, let's put an end to police brutality. So how do we tailor these conversations? Because we're talking about the civic space here. How do we tailor these conversations so that the information can be put out there positively? So I feel that, like President Goodlock Jonathan has said, the politicians themselves have to be directly engaging their followers. Because what we see is, there's information out there, sometimes it's fake news, sometimes it's propaganda. We see this especially on social media, we see this in different circles. But when the words are coming directly from the participants, the politicians, the candidates, and they are telling their followers, don't do this, don't engage in that. We don't see a lot of it coming from these candidates. I've seen at least one candidate tell his followers to be less aggressive. But other candidates have to come consistently. Like we saw with Goodlock Jonathan during his last election he participated in. He came out to tell people, my ambition is not worth anybody's blood. So if you are going to harm anybody, don't say it's because of me. And that's what we need to be seen directly from the politicians so that information is not mixed up. So that someone is not saying something somewhere else that is different from what another person. If you are hearing it from the presidential candidates, you are hearing it from the governorship candidates, their followers are more settled to obey them than any other information you or I could be telling them. Interesting. I think we have Conrad Obanago again with us. Conrad, can you hear me now? I can't hear you now. Perfect. Now I said at the beginning that I know that you run an organisation that is youth focused. And we see that most of the perpetrators of these acts of violence are young people. What is the focus of your youth mobilisation? What kinds of information are you putting out there? And what are you feeding them with as we are preparing for another election cycle? Thank you, God bless you. Conrad, can you hear me? I think that we are having a problem with the Conrad. Can you hear me? Yes, I can hear you now. Okay. Go ahead Conrad. We are listening. Well, unfortunately his connection is pretty bad. Anyway, the reason why we keep having these conversations on civic space and talking about different things is so that people can catch on. Yes. But then the reality is that not everybody has cable TV. Not everybody can watch TV at all. Yes. And we notice that the people who show up for elections, for example when I was in Annambra for the government elections, the people who showed up early to the polling units were not you and I. They were not the middle class guys. They were the guys who need government the most, the guys at the grassroot level. How much information do you think is out there in the Nigerian space, whether it be from the NLA, from political parties who are the owners of voter education and INEC who is also overstretch? How much information do you think is out there? From INEC, we are not getting enough information from INEC. I wish they could do more. National Orientation Agency. I don't think we are getting any decent. Are they seeing an existence? I'm just curious. They are, but their role has just fizzled out gradually and we don't get much from it. Do you think that that's deliberate? I'm not in any way trying to be funny, but... Honestly, the National Orientation Agency, the last time I saw them being vibrant was about maybe 2012, 2013. Since 2015, I've not really seen them trying to get people to modify their thinking, make them more positively minded. I've not seen much from the National. I'm even surprised you mentioned them. Private media has been more in the forefront of getting people to know what to do, how to do and how to act. But then again, like I said, we need to see more brotherhood, more fraternity from the candidates. And then the kind of words they use, we need to stop. We have to participate in a way that people are not being divided along tribe, along religion. You just took it from me because I was going to ask about the divisions, the lines that need to be blurred. Exactly. We should not be hearing about it's this tribe that should do this, it's this tribe that did that, it's this religion that did this. Once there is division and people are not satisfied with the way the elections go, then they will look at the other set of people and say it's your fault. And that is where violence could occur after elections. So all those kind of terminologies, mentioning of tribes, mentioning of different groups and religion, it needs to stop. But do Nigerian politicians know any other way of politicking? Because you see, we are very quick to say, oh, these people travel to other countries, they observe other elections. I mean, we've seen President Goodlock Jonathan be an observer, election observer, whether UN or EU. We've seen that. They see how things are done. I mean, Kenya is just around the corner. They saw how the elections were planned out and then thoroughly done. So is it that they choose not to do this or is it because they're more convenient and comfortable in the way we've always done things? Yes, truly it's the way they've seen things work for their predecessors and perhaps themselves. They've noticed other ways it's done in other countries, but most times they don't see it as applying here. We know a politician who started this Stomach infrastructure thing. To be honest, Stomach infrastructure started from somewhere very, how will I say, very helpful. I read some governance courses where they say if you want to encourage people to come for immunisation, for health information, you have to give them some benefits that will make them immediate benefits. And they took those things and just applied it to elections and said, OK, give them food, give them money. So they misapply actually some of the things they see abroad and they then mix it up with their own traditional way that has worked for them. Even though they know there are alternatives, but because they're not looking at the long term, they're just looking at I want this thing done now. So that's why we keep having this same system. Although I must mention that the electorate is getting more informed, but then again, we have to separate propaganda. We have to separate fake news and all of that from what people should be doing and what is real and what is helpful and will achieve peace. Finally, because my guys are saying it's time to go. Do we see anything changing apart from the fact that something snapped and there's a revolution of sorts? But do we see anything seriously changing and seeing less and less electoral violence and now that we know that there's no ballot box to be snatched? Do you see other grounds being covered to reduce the kinds of things that we saw in previous elections in closing? I think the way things have gone generally, when it's easier to transmit election results, then you have less issues of maybe ballot snatching and all. So I think the way people, young people especially, the way they've organised themselves recently and the mindset that has followed them, if the channels they've created for different things they've done in the past two years from COVID to, like you said, answers, the positive side of answers, how they disseminated information, organised themselves, if they go around doing that, capturing images where they are allowed to capture images, make videos, it will be easier to control the kind of crisis that could happen. So I'm hoping that they will remember how they run those things and they will apply some of those information, some of those technologies and I think it will be a better election than what we've seen before. All of that remains to be seen. We're hoping that even all of these conversations we're having will get to the right end. Yes, exactly. Well Najib Baylor is a political analyst. We want to say thank you Najib for being part of the conversation. Thank you very much. And to Cymru Obanagol, who unfortunately are dropped out. Thank you so much for being here. Well that's the show tonight. Thank you all for joining us. But before I go, I would like to give you my take. Here's my take. Now politics is a dirty game. It's a dirty means to an end. The end of a cause being that only the strongest candidates emerge victorious at the polls. There's no security in politics. Even for the elite political animals, the bell can toll on their position at any time. It is federal grounds for scandals, power plays and even betrayal. This raises a question. What do you do when the ground has changed under you? When all your support is gone and the wave of voices calling for you in your head seems more than anyone can handle? Would it not be best for you to walk away? Now if you must resign for the sake of your party, maybe it is best. Now the needs of many must outweigh the needs of a few. That is basic tenets of democracy. The real issue is whether any politician in this country is capable of making such a sacrifice. With all the internal party squabbles going on right now, we all should be vigilant about who is left standing after, you know, and in what manner the losers bowed out because it will tell us much about who or where to place our trust. And that's my take. I am Mary Annacol and have a good evening.