 Um, so who'd we end up with Justin? Zach Galvanakis? I Suggest or a bio Cal suggested. I don't know if anyone's confirmed like that would be that would be it Zach Galvanakis or Jack Black. I I just were I mean we're so like the bar is so high for the rest of us Not that these aren't great actors. They are but I think it it it veers too much into like Oh the comedy dude Justin's like, you know our political experts But you got started it. Oh, yeah, how about Javier Bardem? Oh Okay, that would be good. Yeah Friendo or Sean Bean Sean Bean for Well, if well, so that's the thing like is Justin gonna be serious or is it gonna be like kind of Just always how he is on the show. He just has he has a fun way of delivering his information He's not Joe Pesci for my cousin Vinny. That's like a fun We're good. I'll ask Scott or a Justin see what he says. All right. Yeah somebody has Justin Who do you want to be Zach Galvanakis Jack Black? Kevin Hart actually Kevin Hart would make a good jury voice Cuz he can do that sort of like I'm doing fine, and then I start shouting Right This is true. That's gonna be a great CD Morse suit before yeah, she probably do our show Yeah, oh gosh, it's 130. Yeah. All right. I'm flies when you're trying to figure out who's gonna do your voice Casting, you know like casting No, let's talk more about who's gonna play me By the way if people are wondering where Patrick Beja is he is out sick today, sadly We miss him. So we hope he gets well soon. Yes get well soon Beja's Oh my gosh, yeah, I'll do this one for you if you could read line one today's Or line three well, sure call it what you want. I Know what you mean. I'm just being difficult What do you mean Tom line one Why not be like Phil Happy to do it. Thank you. Here we go in three two Phil Fisk has supported independent tech news directly for about a day Why not be like Phil and become a DTNs member at patreon.com slash DTNs This is the Daily Tech News for Tuesday May 14th 2019 in Los Angeles. I'm Tom Merritt and from studio feline I'm Sarah Lane and I'm the shows producer Roger chain Patrick Beja is out today. We miss him and we hope he gets well soon He shall return though We will carry on without him in the greatest tradition of the French foreign legion because we're not French But he is making us foreign and we're a legion. We stand with you So knows is really not a software update that enables Google Assistant control in addition to Amazon's already supported Assistant on the Sonos one or beam or through connected Google home devices. Yay is the Sonos one user I'm very excited about this the US get support first with Australia Canada France Germany and the Netherlands and the UK getting support in July Notably YouTube music and Google play music can now be controlled via the speakers as well Blizzard will launch World of Warcraft Classic on August 26th and 27th Starts like in the US and UK on the 26th comes to a bunch other places on the 27th If you're a wow subscriber, you get it at no extra cost closed beta starts by invite May 15th and Opt-in for stress tests will open up May 22nd This is a touched up version of the August 2006 version of World of Warcraft for those who really miss running a lot and killing more Vodafone announced its 5g network will go live in the UK on July 3rd in Seven cities Vodafone will sell four handsets and one home router to go with the service prices will be the same as its 4g equivalents Adobe Lightroom got a new slider feature To improve texture editing control in Lightroom Classic and Camera Raw other new features allow users to share albums in the cloud connected version of Lightroom Interactive tutorials and a new tool called De-fringe which can be used to reduce chromatic aberrations that are still visible after using Lightroom's existing tools for removing said fringes Oh, can't wait to play around with that the one plus seven and seven pro were announced in New York on Tuesday The seven pro comes to the US for six hundred ninety nine dollars and features 90 hertz refresh rate in the display Upgraded fast charging a telephoto lens and a retractable camera Let's talk a little more about that. What's that vulnerability? You may have been hearing kicked around. What's that fixed it? So that's the good news to start with there is no more vulnerability But it let malicious actors remotely install spyware on phones with no user interaction needed That's a bad vulnerability. What's apps own security team discovered it It's a buffer overflow vulnerability in the VoIP stack that allowed some remote code execution just by placing a call To the target WhatsApp account So the call would come in the VoIP stack would launch in the overflow could happen Before thin and then you get the malicious behavior in The call didn't need to be answered for that to happen And then you could wipe it from the call record after you infected the WhatsApp WhatsApp says the vulnerability was exploited by an advanced cyber actor probably a private company working with governments on surveillance and targeted a select number of users a lot of folks are assuming this would be Politicians journalists lawyers for human rights, etc Financial Times alleges that surveillance software from Israel's NSO group was part of the exploit though NSO which markets software to governments and law enforcement denied any involvement. They said we we didn't do this We're very good about vetting who uses our software What's up says all users just to be cautious should update their apps and make sure the device OS is Update as up to date as well, but the vast majority of its users are probably unaffected Yeah, we were talking before the show about all right Well, what's up isn't saying how many users are affected in fact they went out of their way to say probably very few I I'm not a daily what's up user, but I am a what's up user and if I get a call that I'm like I don't know that that looks weird. I'm not answering it. You know usually you sort of feel like Whatever's on the other side of that call is is not applicable to me, right? So the fact that this could be exploited without me answering the call is is is pretty bad Yeah, that's a bad vulnerability and the fact is if you have to ask did it affect me? It probably didn't They have gotten in touch with people that they and they are not saying how they know this But they're they they were saying people have been targeted. They detected that and they've they've gotten in touch with those people At mobile payment conference Transact Apple's VP of Apple pay Jennifer Bailey announced a new iPhone feature rolling out later this year that allows NFC tags to start Apple pay purchases when tapped without needing a dedicated app Apple's partnering with bird scooters Bonobos clothing store and pay-by-phone parking meters Initially at launch to start Apple also says that the wallet app will soon let users sign up for loyalty cards with just a single tap Yeah, this is pretty cool So if you're worried like well, wait a minute. Can I accidentally be charged on your end? It works just the way Apple pay works now where you have to initiate Apple pay and then tap and And you see that the transaction is happening all the normal Apple pay stuff happens It shortens things up on the other end though You don't have to have somebody type in a number on a cash register or a point-of-sale system you just tap the thing and Immediately that transaction begins Yeah, I mean I I have not shopped in a retail bonobos store that I can think of but a bird scooter Even though I lament these scooters in general that that is really helpful I can't tell you how many times I've seen people sort of fumbling around with whatever app as they're standing on the scooter Because they're like ready to go somewhere So it does take a step out of the process. It's it's pretty cool And yeah for a retailer not to have have to have a you know a POS system in place That is I mean it's integrating NFC into Apple pay which is cool I think very cool Pay-by-phone parking meter is my favorite because you know those apps that you have to get for pay-by-phone parking meters are cumbersome So just being able to tap with wallet that would be great But what I feel like we need though is and this is something that I find Annoying about Apple pay or Samsung pay or you know any of the tap to pays at your your retailer that you know offers One or all of them is that there's no real way I always have to ask the cashier like do you guys do Apple pay? Yes, okay You like if for some reason I forget my wallet or something. There's no great signage where you can just be like, okay We're good You know if you're familiar with the point of sale system Yeah, like sometimes there is but no signage is not an indication that they don't take and especially with something like this This is something that you want to tout is like this is the the most you know frictionless option that we've ever Offered before so it would be nice to Be able to know, you know before you walk into a store like cool Notice and they do that maybe a little confusion in the chat room. We're not talking about tap to pay at the counter We're talking about like conceivably like like in the Apple store you can you can do with your Apple app You could go up to a piece of clothing in the bonobos store tap it and buy it there and walk out Not not having to ever interact with with a person, right? So this this this is using NFC in a more efficient way Amazon's Alexa guard feature is leaving private review and rolling out for free to us echo users If you tell the echo that you're leaving the mics go on then if the echo hears things like a Glass-breaking or a smoke alarm or maybe a carbon monoxide alarm going off It will send an alert to your phone audio clips and direct video feed if possible if your echo supports it If you have a way lighting setup, it'll flip on the lights make it seem like maybe you're home You know deter some thieves perhaps and users with ring or ADT pro monitoring can also have alerts sent to those companies as well Yeah, this is nifty. I You know, it's not it's not a security system in and of itself But if you have the ring or ADT pro Monitoring having a tap into that would be would be interesting I would be worried about false positives with this until I'd used it a while because I have two dogs You know and they're wandering around make it all kinds of weird noises. I'm wondering how many times Right because our nest cameras constantly are like motion detected. They're like, yeah, we know it's a dog But it just doesn't seem to Paranoid people such as myself every time I leave the house and a fire track goes by I'm like, are they going to my house? You know, you have that like little moment where you're like wouldn't that suck And if a smoke alarm went off in my house and I was not home Even if it was a false positive, I would like the alert just for my peace of mind yeah, and peace of mind the other side of the peace of mind is The fire truck goes by and you don't get one of these things. It's a little more like well, I didn't get an alert So it's probably okay. It's probably not me exactly. Yeah. Yeah, it's We're and and Amazon has has said listen, this is not a replacement for you know an actual home security system We can't call the police for you But it but it does give you a little bit more data of you know If something unusual has happened at the house while you're while you're away Yeah, the kind of thing that I would probably more likely use when I'm gone for a longer period of time rather than just you know Out to the store or something but but still interesting thing and I'm curious when Google home is gonna do this Or if there is something like that, let us know feedback at daily tech news show Apple has been lucky to be among the company so far unaffected by US tariffs on Chinese goods However, the office of the US trade representative has formally begun the approval process For tariffs on the remaining 300 billion dollars worth of Chinese goods still unaffected This would pave the way for the president to impose those tariffs Starting June 24th if he chose June 24th would be the earliest that the remaining amount could be slapped on He wouldn't have to do it on June 24th could happen anytime after in the light of that process beginning though A bunch of analysts started looking at like okay if The tariff were imposed it would affect a lot of companies including Apple What would that effect be on Apple JP Morgan? Estimated in a note to clients Tuesday that assuming a 25 percent tariff, which is there's a fair assumption Apple would need to raise the price of its phone 14 percent to keep all its margins equal If production of the iPhone was moved into the United States, which that would be another option like okay We'll avoid the tariffs by just making all the iPhones here in the US Merrill Lynch estimated it would raise the price 20 percent So it actually still be cheaper to keep it in the manufacturing situation It is now Then it would be to move it back into the US to avoid the tariffs and JP Morgan says it believes Apple will just absorb The cost that it won't want to raise prices So it will eat the cost of any tariffs and take the hit in its earnings and anger the investors Rather than raise the iPhone prices and anger the customers. Yeah, I mean iPhone prices, you know, they're they're at my ceiling That that's for sure So I can't imagine Apple saying well, we'll just make them even more expensive when you know We offer the next gen iPhone in October That's not going to work especially because there's been so much bad press about just phones being too expensive a general If this were to go through not that it will but let's just let's just say for the sake of argument that it does you know does Apple Listen, Apple can can eat the costs Apple has plenty of money And and the company can do that and do a little bit restructuring But if they decided to move it out of China, where would they go? I mean That is something that is not treated in these analyses and I've heard people suggest well You could move your manufacturing to Vietnam. You could you could move more of it to Taiwan That's going to cause costs as well And it all comes down to whether you think these tariffs are going to stay or not if you like many people believe You know, this is a temporary thing. It won't last forever Maybe the last months maybe the last years But eventually they'll go they'll be they'll settle this whole thing and they'll go away Then you don't want to go through the process of trying to cite a new manufacturer and vet them and get them On board especially when you're somebody like Apple who really is Trying to be careful about the quality control process and you have those systems in place already. Yeah, exactly Yeah, it's not just this it's not as simple as being like, all right. Well, we'll just go somewhere where it's like slightly cheaper So we don't have to pass Increases on to consumers that would be that would be a huge unraveling of Yeah of a pretty with some exceptions a pretty tight assembly chain that Apple's got going on and has been doing for years Also, I'm of the opinion. I think it's sometimes in our heads We say like oh well if this price goes up, they'll raise the price and the consumers They'll always pass the cost on to the consumers. It's not exactly the way pricing works You price based on what you think you can get out of people And if you don't think you can get more out of people if your cost of creating it goes up Raising that price means you'll sell fewer of them. Wait a second Tom. Are you saying that my iPhone didn't need to cost? $1100 they didn't just say like well it costs it costs, you know $1100 to make so we'll sell it to Sarah for 1100 but not only that but they also don't say well It only cost this much to make so we'll only charge this much They charge as much as they think they can get away with based on their brand and who their customers are And so even when their costs go up It doesn't automatically mean it's smart for them to pass the costs along to the consumer because the consumer may not buy it Anymore especially in a competitive marketplace when there are a lot of very affordable and attractive Android phones out there Apple probably thinks they've got it priced right and so it would be would be more in there just to eat those costs And those costs won't mean they lose money eating the cost just means they make less money, right? Moving on adobe recently discontinued some older versions of creative cloud apps including Photoshop, Premiere Pro, Animate, Media Director and Lightroom Classic Adobe has emailed users advising them to upgrade also Notifying them that they're no longer licensed to use these older versions further adobe wanted that use of the older versions Warned could expose the users to claims of infringement by third parties Now adobe didn't say exactly what was going on But adobe support on Twitter says that it is related to a copyright dispute If you recall adobe sued adobe in March of 2018 for copyright infringement and breach of contract All signs point to this being the case. I am a creative cloud user. I use photoshop Premiere pro and media encoder almost daily works. Well for me. I've got auto updates turned on So I'm not using older versions of anything, but my first question was, huh, okay Well, this is not something that's going to affect me But I know some folks were for were a little miffed about the fact that they are only going to get the last two versions Of adobe legally to download going forward. Yeah, this is this is one of those things where I don't think it's adobe being anti-consumer I think it's adobe Not having properly expected what was going to happen from Dolby Why they didn't give Dolby the audit and and this Apple insider article makes it clear that Dolby used to have a deal that adobe paid Dolby. They're so close. It's confusing adobe paid Dolby per Disc right back in the disc days and when they sweat when they switch to creative cloud and and digital downloads They changed the deal to pay by install But Dolby wasn't satisfied with the numbers adobe was giving and wanted to audit them and adobe resisted the audits Maybe the installs were a little higher than adobe had expected who knows But that's why they're in court because dolby saying we need to look at these numbers And they won't give them to us because we think they owe us more money And we are no longer licensing them our older content, which is in their older versions Which forces adobe to have to say to everybody like hey, you're not allowed to use those older versions anymore I doubt Dolby's gonna go after adobe's customers if they are using those older versions But adobe has to say that or else then they would be liable for people infringing Which dolby would absolutely go after them for you know And I mentioned this is not something that really affects me it could down the line But it certainly hasn't but Roger you mentioned that sometimes there are older versions of these creative cloud apps that that you need Need Need in a way that's dependent on who your client is I work for someone Five years back who gave me project files for all the old stuff that I needed to kind of Spruce up, but they were from a very old version of premier And if I had to bring him in I would have to relink all the assets because one of the things you can Do in premier pro is output and you can take all the asset files into a single folder and have them all linked to a single project file If if you try to import some of the older stuff, especially from it's a different platform this case OS 10 It didn't all link up So it was just easier to install the older version and open it up and that and not have to have that headache of spending two hours of basically Relinking everything by hand. Yeah all the all the mattress stuffers out there who don't you don't trust Banks and keep their money in their mattresses are laughing right now saying aha when you own your software Not get it out of the cloud you're sick Except even if you own the old software you still have a term of service and that term of service has now said you're not allowed To use this because it's an infringement. Yeah, Adobe can no longer transfer the right to use Dolby's property anymore So oops it actually affects everybody whether it's cloud or not Get all the tech headlines each day in about five minutes Be sure to subscribe to daily tech headlines comm got a couple of interesting laptop announcements today HP launched a 15 inch dual screen gaming laptop a secondary 6 inch 1080p screen sits above the keyboard and can be used to zoom in on parts of the main screen Or you could pull discord over there and chat or watch a YouTube video that's giving you a walkthrough the game You're playing you can even keep track of your hardware performance It's all kinds of things you can do with that While you're gaming and the omen x2s will be available in June starting at $2,099 and 99 cents But the one that caught my eye, and I think it's all of us are kind of fascinated with this Lenovo announced the first foldable Windows PC, which yes My first reaction also was isn't that just a laptop because it folds It is in fact Probably more like a big foldable tablet But bear with me listen to this because I think it's more interesting than it might sound It takes the form of a 13.3 inch 4 by 3 2k OLED display that you can fold in half The people who've looked at it say that you know You don't see a crease in there although they won't let us photograph the hinge So it may not be ready for prime time But at least in this prototype it lays pretty fat flat and the screen looks pretty good Lenovo says it will let way less than two pounds when it's done You can use it completely unfolded like a tablet you can have it partially folded like a book You can prop it up on a kickstand and use the included wireless keyboard and trackpad accessory like kind of like a surface Pro or something and you can use it as a laptop with the bottom half to the screen being a touchscreen keyboard Or a pen interface and in fact the right side of the screen has a battery to keep it weighted when you have it in that laptop position We have almost no specs on this thing It is a working model that they let people Film using so so we know it works But we don't know what's inside it other than it's got an Intel processor They plan to offer cellular support It'll come with a Wacom pen and uses USB-C for charging The models that people tried from Lenovo didn't have a headphone jack But we don't know if that's a final decision or not Lenovo plans to launch the device next year as part of its ThinkPad X1 line. So the question is Forget the Galaxy Fold Forget the foldable Huawei phone for now Does this appeal to you because I think it's a different thing than oh, here's a tablet that folds down into a phone This is just a foldable tablet that works like a laptop. It appeals to me It appeals to me because it's a tablet Then it's two smaller tablets, then it's a laptop That is all of those things it's all of those things and all of those things are things that I want and need And nothing really gives me that yet I'm fascinated by it because like the Galaxy Fold and the Huawei foldable before it I'm not sure if I have a need for it until I try it out, right? I don't think I want to use this as a laptop because I don't like typing on touch screens I want to have a physical but there's a wireless keyboard that you can use with it Although the screen would be small in that separate and you know Maybe I won't like that as much but that you know and the book thing. It's like like you I was like, ooh That's interesting, but that was actually Of all of all the things that was almost like the biggest selling point where I was like I can hold it like a book and Read the left and the right screen and then I don't know press a button and then you know did the screen advances That's really cool to me, especially if the display is amazing, which it be I mean what you know, it's nice Oh, let's play I I I Okay, but it's not bad for reading. I'd you know, I'll take it Yeah, I'm We're all sort of trying to figure out. All right. How is this foldable thing gonna work? like what's what's gonna be you know that the you know the industry killer and It does sound like yes from early reports that Lenovo is being Very strict about like nah, you can't photograph that and now we don't want to talk about hinges And this isn't ready for prime time so there are a lot of things that the company is obviously still working out and and and it might not be ready for prime time but if it works as Expected we're getting somewhere now. We're getting work now We're getting to a point where it's like, okay You can ditch all these standalone devices if you really do have a an all-in-one Well, it in many ways It's kind of an evolution of the two-in-one where the laptop is also a tablet And I think the appeal with this is that you just don't have the screen or the keyboard Just kind of dangling off somewhere when you don't need it like you have a detachable wireless keyboard, but You know, you can type I mean, not everything typing on the screen isn't the the absolute best way to to interface with the machine but if you needed to It could work and the idea of you know, having a programmable keyboard that isn't just a QWERTY keyboard Oh, I need to basically run my tricaster or I need to have some sort of specialized thing I think it's just the ability to fold it for some reason seems like like a really good Compelling concept about it like you you're folding the screen and you're protecting it But you can also unfold it and if you're reading on it You can fold it like a book so people can't just be kind of side-eyeing You what you're doing on the train or the plane or something like that Well, a sine angle viewing was a problem with this apparently that's not up to snuff yet They may improve that by the time the release model comes out, but yeah the side angle viewing wasn't Featured that protected others from viewing you it protected you from doing it sometimes. It's certain angles So well, but you could say that about any laptop, you know, every time We're saying it's it's worse in this than other laptops and you need it more because you're folding it and putting it at different angles more right, right Yeah, I mean the the idea of let's talk about when it's completely folded the Review I read said there's no pocket. You're gonna be able to put this into like it's not, you know Yeah, exactly, but but it is you know at two pounds If that's what it ends up being you know, that's that's a that's a That's a nice mobile little machine. Yeah, they say it folds down to the size of a hardback book So you throw it in a bag. It's a little heavy, but hardback books are also heavy Yeah, I feel like the accessories like the keyboard and the pen are gonna be the parts that would annoy me because they don't They don't go nicely with this form factor The other thing is I know a lot of people are like, ah, didn't everybody realize that nobody wants this Well, we don't know if no this this is the kind of thing that I'm glad companies. Yeah, I'm not nobody yet But they said hey, we figured out foldable screens. Let's figure out what to do with them And this is what Lenovo engineers made their best effort to say, okay, if we have a foldable screen We can do this we can do that. Let's see if people want it So before you just dismissed this and say it was a dumb idea. Nobody should try it Let's let's give it a chance to be used. You may be right. You shout that you were right I hate everything and I was right. This is stupid But until we get it out there and have people try it We won't know if there's an unexpected use for it So I don't think this is a bad thing for for Lenovo to try I also wouldn't want to say that it is guaranteed to be a success, but I think it's fascinating Hey, man, I'm rooting for the foldables, you know, like like with it. We're going to get there eventually And anybody who's like nobody wants this you just haven't seen the right product yet. I don't know if this is it Yeah, but you know, but but it might be or it might be inching toward that Hey, thanks to everybody who participates in our subreddit. Sometimes you share foldable news Sometimes you share other news. We appreciate all of it You can submit stories and vote on your peers stories as well at daily tech news show reddit.com We're also on facebook join our group at facebook.com slash groups slash daily tech news show All right, let's check out the mailbag. Let's we got a real nice email from bruce bruce and stew stew is bruce's dog They're coming in from chambersburg, pennsylvania, and bruce says I want to comment on the uber IPO That was last friday and your discussion on them possibly raising prices to actually make money I live in a relatively small town that has uber and lift I really only use uber because it was first to come here. I'm visually impaired. I can't drive I have a guide dog who helps me get around for shorter trips. That's stew Uh bruce also included a photo stew is the cutest I typically pay ten dollars one way including tip and hope that prices don't raise too high too quickly I just hope I just hope that uber thinks of those who don't really have an option when public transit is not around Uh and bruce. Yeah, I'd I'd I'd empathize absolutely bruce and it's a picture of stew the dog So we're already on bruce's side Like because of that like playing on the heartstrings there. Uh, he is wearing a nationals cap. That's fine Um, but uh, yeah, I think this is a great point to say like hey I know we didn't used to have this option and life was harder then but this option has made my life better And if it gets more expensive Well, that's going to make it less better and could be problematic. So I I hope you're right bruce Yeah, I think I think we you know, I certainly I tend to focus on like uber and lyft so convenient But I have you know public transportation options if I want them less convenient, but you know also cheaper um, but uh, it's it's good to uh, remember that there are folks like bruce who Really need something like this and you know price increases are It's not just a matter of inconvenience. It can be sort of debilitating. Yeah, absolutely. Thank you bruce and thank you stew I thank you folks, uh for joining us. We have lots of great stuff if you're a member of daily tech news show It's fine to just listen to the show Every day that that's cool. Uh, you get a lot out of it. 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Oh, we're talking about live with it What am I going to live with next for three months? smart light bulbs No, really in a in the last minute surge that the smart light bulb have been trailing throughout this campaign No one thought they could win it was captain's light bulb You know what I secretly wanted this to be now the pixel 3a did win the electoral college. No, I Smart light bulb 138 votes pixel 3a 130 votes Oh Down to the wire. Yeah, uh home camera like a nest 68 votes No, it's I actually thought that it would get more. I guess you guys don't want to see my dog Going through my garbage. Maybe it was clear that I would see otis I bet it would have shot to the top if that was the you know, we can always revisit it at another time I'm really excited about this actually Because as I've mentioned I'm The sort of you know as much as I'd like to have my finger on the pulse I don't have a smart light bulb in my home not one never have Well, and now we have to figure out what we want to get you probably the best bet would be a phillips starter pack Yeah, you get a few bulbs in the hub Yeah, and like I said, I've got a lot of input options because my house is flush with outlets and recessed lighting So, you know, we I can get I can get kind of creative about you know Spreading them out over the house. Yeah. Yeah now nick with a c says I think second place should get a second shot in the next Pull I totally agree with nick on that although I will say if our next pull is three months from now It might not be the pixel 3a, but we could definitely throw an android phone in as a as an option Whatever the most relevant one is Yeah It kind of follows the news cycle right and stuff that's available and you know, what what what has caught our eye The master's like get get her a cheap chinese smart light bulb that has spyware in it problem solved we can all watch odis All right, you get two two out of three Yeah I mean odis says he's well odis is pretty passed out right now actually But I know what he would say if he were awake and that would be that he would like to be the real star of live with this Yeah, I I always want to say live with this because of the whole album But uh, but uh, you know, we'll notice you you know get your own podcast, right? Yes, phillips hue starter kit has four What light bulbs and a hub? compatible with amazon And home kit and google assistant Well and google assistant on my sonos one speakers now I can really I can really go crazy You know, I was disappointed that So from what I understand My because I've got two sonos ones. I got one in the bedroom and I got one in the living room I'm actually not in my living room right now, but if I talk loud enough I can hear her from from from beyond the wall and I was hoping that I could interchange but you can't You have to choose one and that's what you use and then you have to go into your settings and choose another You can't just be like yo wake word for google wake word for amazon Um within the same section. You can't have both running at once. No no, all right not according to You know someone I know that works at sonos so boo However, more choice is good. So I'll take it So pc mags editors choices are the yufi lumos smart bulb the phillips hue, which we just saw um And their other reviewed highly reviewed though not editors choices are g e Cree which, you know, I don't know without captain america or captain marvel around I don't know if you want cre in your house, but uh lifex, which is what I have Uh, which don't require a hub Yufi again, but a different brand and ikea A key it only gets three and a half stars though. Everybody else has four I feel like phillips would be the ones to get Yeah, yeah Yeah, you'd also make smart power sockets. You know assuming they all work the same way Why would any of them have fewer stars because they're less reliable? Yeah, you know because it's like all right. Well, let's just pick the more reliable one So it's more about like lifestyle than maybe Maybe like it's because the software might be janky or or maybe they're you know The hardware isn't it got as good a range or they don't have features That's yeah, so yeah yufi and phillips seem to be the The two that pc mag really likes and everybody knows hue bulbs. So Yeah, I mean that's that's the brand I always If someone says smart light bulb i'm like, oh look a hue I do like the lifex bulbs that I have because you don't need a hub and why'd you go? Is that why you went with them? Lifex sent me them That's that tends to you know Some adoption I think I was on tech news today. Maybe when they said I mean they sent them to me a long time ago And those are what do you use in your office? No, yeah, I have one up here in the office and I have one in a lamp by my couch Got it. Yeah, and and and what's nice is I have it to automatically turn on in the evening and then turn itself off if we forget The one in the living room or both of them the one that's in the by the couch Yeah, this one just turns on when I tell the echo to turn stuff on You know, it's funny. I the way that my So I've got this whole thing like at night like Otis goes into his crate Door closes and then I kind of turn off lights as I walk to my bedroom Which is not difficult to do But really the way that it works is If I don't go to my bedroom first and turn on the light, then I've got to like walk through a hallway in the dark It's it's not like I have some like professional apartment But it would be really nice to just be like turn on that light and then I can kind of do my thing And I'm never actually in pitch black darkness, which I almost always am for like a minute So just like silly stuff like that is like that's cool We we really You can make routines with the echo and you can do this in the google home too Where you say Hey, it's bedtime and it will turn off the light in the room You could you you could tell it what to do But you could tell it turn off the light in the room. I'm in Turn on the light in my bedroom. Yeah So that as I'm walking the light goes off behind me That would be it would be that's exactly what I need. That's all I need and and again like What am I going to save? 15 seconds pretty much, but it's it's more of just like efficiency Just efficiency I wonder if we should get you phillips and lifex for two different types of experience could Uh, I don't think it is Again because I have so many places to put lights and I also thought that um I thought that kevin who probably pushed us over the edge and the whole smart light bulb thing from our From our mail bag yesterday. Yeah I did think he made a good point where it was like it's not about comparing models It's about like life was like this now. It's like this you know instead of like who has the better software because It's probably in most cases somewhat negligible Is that is that a is that a reason to not have multiple brands though? So that you're not dealing with like well, it worked fine except the lifex didn't do this and the phillips did I don't know. I mean Again, like I'm coming in blind. Ha ha. No pun intended Uh, I yeah, I'm not sure. I'm not sure if it's better to have a couple different. Um Options, I mean we are talking about three months after all the question is Uh, I I think you can with without without turning the lights on you can still make this decision Would you want to say like I use this one brand for three months? And here's what I thought of it Or would you want to be able to say I use two brands for three months? And this brand did this thing cool But not but the other brand didn't and yet that one did this other thing cool that this brand didn't I think that's more helpful honestly because we're comparing it to a life without smart light bulbs Right, so it's like I can say like I use this one brand and here's how great it was or here's how not great it was Um, but I think that if you're comparing like no smart light bulbs to smart light bulbs It's almost better to have a little bit of variety because we've got time if I had a week I'd be like that on a one brand. Yeah, right, right. No, that's kind of the cool thing about doing live with it Yeah, it gives you more time. All right Well, then I'm gonna Get the lifexed purple lighting in the lane residents Everything gonna be purple everything purple Party Party that ends at 9 30 when sarah starts to nod off What no, I don't want accessories. Just get me to the Cart sometimes buying is just too hard in it though Okay. Yes. It tells me there's multiple things in the cart. Good. What are they? See I have some jeans saved for later and I have to be careful because I don't want my jeans to be sent to you I'd give them back It's not like it's something I would be like now they're mine I saw these hot tamales. I have to give you a friend of mine speaking of jeans. He's uh, he used to work sort of in um medical sales of some kind And he's now working for the chef Jose Andres Who is very active in You know providing meals to people Along border cities and you know a lot of philanthropic work And so, you know, his his his life is very different. Um over the last several months And he he was like there's the best job I've ever had, you know, so impactful, you know doing good work But my waistline is taken ahead Because there's just so much food around him all the time, you know good food like gourmet like wonderful food Um, so he's like, you know, does anyone you know like what what are like the cool jeans to get these days? Because I just need bigger jeans and I was like go Legging It'll solve all the problems when I was thinking about our conversation from last week where it's like men should wear leggings It's elastic no buttons no problem So are you are you advocating leggings or jeggings for men? I don't care something stretchy where you know His waistline has expanded And he's sort of like Sure sort of like that's just what you get when you're making food all day, you know for people so I was like Maybe go into the leg leggings arena like who's stopping you? Why not? Start the trend Like for work or just for lounging about it for for living To to put pants on that The point is that none of his jeans fit anymore. He's gained weight So I said start wearing leggings, you know, you're on the move. Anyway, they're easy, you know, they pack up well sir suggests man leggings Megan's for Man who has gained so annoying? so I've run into this before especially with light bulb type stuff california has Uh has rules about what you can sell Uh, and I think it has to do with warnings like you have to have a warning on certain things that have like leds and stuff and so I will try to buy something on amazon and it'll say oh you can't ship it to that address Because it's in california So then you have to go back and you have to find the california friendly version of the same product The one that has the label the state of california is determined exactly I don't know that but I assume it's because of that So that's why I'm sitting here sighing because I'm like, oh now I gotta go back and find the thing with I had that when I got my car. I had that little sticker on the window driver side window I took it off immediately and and it's fine. It's just a hassle. I can have them shipped to california It's no big deal. It's just that I have to go back and like why don't you just make one listing? For everybody, why do you have to have a separate listing for the california people? Annoying You know as if being in california wasn't hard enough So hard It's so hard. You guys don't know how hard we have it every day to struggle california with perfect weather It's an everyday struggle Yeah, the palm trees Oh The natural beauty I actually I had I had a moment where I had to like check myself this morning because Otis and I were walking around the lake and They were tree trimming, you know Because palm trees get that, you know, sort of brown and you know, they'll start falling on people if you don't trim them You know once a year or whatever And so there were like little areas that were blocked off, you know where there's actually a you can walk around the lake And then you can walk around the sidewalks above the lake, which is the exact same walk, you know, but I was like Trimming that palm trees and this You know, I was like Sarah get a hold of yourself. Yeah Not in my backyard. Yeah Nimbies All right, you've got uh lifex and and philips bulbs headed your way I think one of them shows up wednesday the other thursday Awesome, and on that note, let's say goodbye to the video folks and video folks. You're the best audio folks Stick around