 Sometimes you just want to do a quiz. This is just the start of your slow descent into being a quiz-based supervillain. Yes Leading to I believe he's called the clue master in DC, right? Yeah, actually, of course, that's a thing. He runs a quiz show and then drops Yeah, like a bad guy and bat woman added. He popped up in Gotham Knights Remember that rags free of that. That's right. I do remember that I Do remember 100% yeah, he wants the drugs Yes, he does he wants the drugs the mum because the mom's gone nuts mom. That's right crazy now We are gathered here today for a very special episode of eFab that is gonna be Running as carefully as possible on my end with with a whole bunch of prep Trying to make some interesting little widget thing I found into a full-on game with teams and points Gonna be crazy I'm hoping it'll work and then in future maybe run some more who knows Um, I don't know how exactly to begin this other than saying basically what it is, which is a implied a little bit by the Title and when I say a little bit, I mean really you can't tell at all what the hell I'm talking about with that title still so I found a thing thanks to a youtuber who was just talking about it because it's like a neat idea Where uh, oh god Don't remind me Just look at his fucking face. You just bring this up as though we can't Talk extensively about what this was this cursed like porn level Quiz I don't even know what I'm looking at. This was like a crazy idea They tried to launch and it went nowhere and it was horribly low budget. They stopped immediately Okay, they took like what what $20,000 for the set 20 bucks worth of plywood It was so bad I need to we need to do e-fat movies for their movies at some point. Okay, that's a big deal Gotta get that. Oh my one of my viewers sent me the the trilogy the dvds from they made I didn't remember that they were they released all three of their that go with the glasses movies on dvd And he was like 13 at the time and he was into the site so really hardcore So he bought all three dvds and now you know, it's 15 years later And he's embarrassed of owning them. So he sent me them I was like, oh great. I can add these to my collection instead and imagine the bonus features being credible Um, okay, so let me show you at least all the contestants here once you get the stream up So you can see this wonderful screen Try and get an understanding of what in the world we're dealing with The first thing to point out would be The teams of which will be named team fleam And team grumbo go in head-to-head. Oh, please. Can I be on team grumbo? I'm so sorry So that's right, that's okay fleam police where we got this we got this team fleam Uh is populated by dev brooks and rags team leader being dev That that will be relevant soon enough. Don't you worry? I like how anyone Who's made by made team leader will just be scared immediately team grumbo Made up of uh, fringy john and theo theo being team leader Why would you do this? I'm not because thematically he made both of the weebs team leader Naturally shies at the concept of leadership or social This is this is great. This is good. We now chat. You may now become tribalistic and choose who you want to win team flame To be honest with you. Go grumbo grumbo's Grumbo hashtag try the grumbo Your flings be dreams Go grumbo. Oh my goodness. Look at this the tribalism begun. Yep. I see a lot of grumbo's there. So that's pretty cool Grumbo's are all right, but they're no flam Well, wow, that's pretty offensive Is it well sometimes that's just how it is Team is supreme. Well, that's right rain supreme on this stream Hmm. There's a lot of misinformation about fleam out there. Oh, I don't know I mean, I wouldn't know about that So team No, fleam's not supreme Come on Rags is coming up with freestyles like come on While playing while playing bleem As you can see there are a bunch of numbers and columns. Who knows what all that could possibly mean Um, we we will be split up into eight rounds of differing I need to do I need to be I need to be looking at the live stream In theory. Yeah, it'll be helpful to you. I think you're gonna want to see that It'll be useful information as time goes on. That's all All right, so screen a little off for everyone else. It seems like it's kind of not crop-roping. It feels awesome I it's a little bit off. Yeah, this is the best I can do because this is photoshop. I have open right now Oh, okay Wow, everything is scuffed here. This is actually very inspired by the episode where we covered falcon the winter soldier If you remember I had a scene where I was like, there are 15 things wrong. Can we guess them all? Remember that? That was fun This is essentially that but you know, I think the spiritual successor to a specific conversation for Bad show a couple years ago. This is the quiz form of falcon the winter soldier e-fap breakdown That makes that makes complete sense at this point. You're probably thinking like, wait, we have to name plot holes Or so there's like no no, so that could be a fun little quiz on its own Um, the idea here is based on a little resource I found that basically collected data from across Everything online and through references Came up with a list of 100 names Across all of history up till now and sorted them by popularity As in the most well referenced and popular human beings of all time ranked from one to 100 Hitler so The idea is going to be that you two teams will compete to guess Which of the ones are there through different versions of things that i'm gonna Present to you that I had a few, you know thoughts about in terms of how to format it until uh, you know We we see who the winning team is who the smarter and morally superior team is that's what this will decide Well team flame reign supreme It's not true. They got zero points right now around the new regime No, I mean it's a big draw at this point. We're gonna find a way to get you guys some points So, uh, we're gonna see it'll start nice and chill Round one will be that you take it in turns as teams to discuss And then figure out who you want to choose as an example of a very popular person across history And depending on your answer, let's say for example Shut the fuck up say for example You choose someone at let's say 43 you choose number for you choose a guy And you get you get the person's ranked at 43 That means you get the reverse of that in points i.e. Like it'll be 57 So you guess number one you get a hundred guess number a hundred you get one you understand? I think everyone follows you Okay, so what you want to do is not only guess correct, but also guess high you want to get them high ranks So it's kind of like family Like that's rankings for their guesses in terms of rules number one no googling even though I can't possibly stop you I'd prefer you guys don't google Otherwise No private talks at all no group chats. No I can't confer with my dream team Well, so it's part of the game in flame part of the game is team flame you should confer But remember the other team is listening Can the other team just mute while we discuss? No, that's what they can hear you. That's the point I want not if they mute themselves I want them to hear you it makes it more difficult You've got to figure out how to confer on which is the best decision This is unconstitutional and then also avoid giving the other team ideas on which ones they would like to try Yeah Okay, all right. All right. I'll like Yeah, unfortunately in order to use the code we'd have to explain to each other what the code is Yeah, but otherwise that would be a good idea. Maybe if we're just so fucking quick with our code Now we can we can now spit it out with round one You will get a 30 point penalty if you manage to fail Because I feel like you should be pretty straightforward in guessing some of the most popular human beings of all time But it's worth keeping in mind The most highly referenced in all the material digitally. That's that's how this was constructed So you may or may not be surprised with the results But remember if you feel say for example, you guess when you're like what that's not on the list That's impossible. It's a list that you've all got to deal with, you know, so like it's it's it's a level playing ground It's a I will say the list can come across as strange in some ways But in most ways it makes a lot of sense So the list was compiled digitally from people on the internet the It's scanned basically everything that's available online And so the highest references to the lowest references of human beings The one thing that I should I think inform you of That may not be intuitive is religious figures are in this list Oh for yeah, that's what? Okay, that's counting the ones that actually existed that blend that this mix does are don't actually exist Uh, that'll include ones that do and don't exist. Yes. And and to be clear Does this list include fictional people? No, no, no, okay, so you understand that no harry potters, but Okay, those firemen's you may spot one or two people that you'd be like, wait a minute. Did that person exist? But that's okay Uh, I mean as some people point out you know as far as most historians aware a guy called jesus did exist Okay, so it works. That's the consensus. I don't name I don't believe there's anyone that you'll find in this list that you'd go. Oh, come on I think you'll be like, uh-huh. Uh-huh. Yeah, like santa claus will be No, he wouldn't be No, no, no, no, he would be on this list. Like I said, there's a few surprises and that's one of them. They didn't include santa That it's bizarre, but all right. Yeah, I don't know. Um for for one thing in terms of the googling Obviously, you know googling to look people up, but if you have someone in mind, but you just can't remember their name Can you google for that or it's like that's gone I think no We're gonna go with no Right What we want to kind of go with is everyone's collective brain power for their teams, you know with what you have at hand sort of thing Collective brain power This is remembering the name as well. So yeah, this is uh tricky And I will do what I can with every correct guess to uh Maybe read the first paragraph of their wiki page so people know who we're talking about um because there are some in here that I don't think any of us seven would have guessed but that there will be rounds later that we'll be able to include these These ones if they're not guessed at all But yeah, there's no other reason not to start. Um the only problem of course Being that we can't know exactly which of the teams are supposed to go first flea more grumbo But I think clean goes first flip a coin was where I was gonna go with that Not just say your team gets to go first All right, well here. I've got a I got a coin here. I'm fucking flipping it Yeah, rags, you don't partial I I don't buy coup wins Why I'm gonna flip right now. So it's uh fleam for heads grumbo for tails That's cool. Okay. We have tails fleam for heads That's right because team fleam Rain supreme team grumbo first confer as much as you wish just remember I can give ideas and uh fear will be the one thing to lock in whatever your choice is So clarification first round is what we get listing like most Famous people basically throughout all of history. Yeah, you want to get those high ranks for the most points Um, okay, we just have jesus, right? No, it's not to say it's not saying whoever goes Are you locking in jesus? Is like it's jesus versus two other people I can think of and I think jesus surely beats both You're gonna lock in all right excited. I can confirm jesus is number three in the top Ranky flankies of all time Which earns you 97 points for good old team grumbo not bad All right team fleam. What have you got? Where we we got to do it. We have to it does god God is not on the list Okay, if that's not on I um One strategy I had in mind if we were gonna not just focus on um, like religious people like The reaction to their death So I was thinking of like an unconventional one at like possibly number 12 or 15 Before you say before you say before you say We should save the unconventional ones till the high point obvious ones need to get the high point ones done first Okay, you because because that's the game we're playing Yeah If we're doing religious figures if you want someone that can rival jesus obviously mohammed Even though we're obviously going to say hitler because we have to say hitler. I I need to know where he is on this list Well, you think you really think you would be in the top one or two profit mohammed It's I it's I it's gotta be mohammed or hitler Well dev gets to lock it in Okay, I'd curious to ride with hitler just for all these years Every every point will count okay, but you want to go hitler hitler is indeed on the list I don't think any of you are surprised about that Hitler come on Where is mr. Hitler hang on number one? Hitler number one you got here at least makes top 10. Team me top 10 at least please eight off hitler number 14 Oh Which gives you 86 points That's not bad All right team grumbo Um, I feel like it's probably worthwhile to still keep thinking about like religious figures. So mohammed buddha Do you really think that out like because this is just referenced on the internet, right? Or yeah Yeah, I'm I'm wondering if certain uh, shall we say american presidents might Yes, I my other thinking was people like george washington or abraham lincoln I mean, I was gonna say obama Uh, do you think that because of him being a more contemporary figure that he'd be contemporary figure and very memed on That's that's a good point. Oh, dude. Donald. So it's it's him or trump I don't know. James a garfield was now now that we've said both their names. It's kind of like a handshake So which do you think is more referenced? Oh, obama has more like history Trump has more uh impact shall we say Revering as well that like in terms of internet, you know discussions probably is like exponential, right that the more There are the more a conversation happens per day to avoid misleading either team because i'm starting to think maybe I should just read out the actual description of the thing that they did to make this list So the data was collected through a slow and painful process involving several steps First identify all entries of the type biography from wiki data This takes a few days Then we use the wikipedia api to identify all biographies that have a presence in more than 15 language editions of wikipedia Then run a classifier over the english text of all these biographies to identify the occupation place of the, you know, all particular information Then group people and based on like everything so they can find out stuff like that and then put the data in the front end And search for bugs and gaps and content so I think from that it's it's based not on memes not on every entry like even youtube and stuff but actually wikipedia as a So if you think of like every reference textual mentions, yeah every mention jesus had Articles documents any any kind of digital thing. Yeah Right, okay. So now i'm starting to think that you'd probably get more references to older presidents then I think i want to go over him linkin perhaps um, do we want to try um, I Do you think any religious figures would uh would beat him out? Is there a time limit to this? i'm not Not round one There will be time Yeah, i'm a little bit. I'm wondering if uh, if it's still be worthwhile to try for a religious figure Um, I was gonna pitch santa claus. Are we going with fictional characters in this? I don't know what santa claus has to do with fictional characters Um Uh, I mean i'm okay with abraham lincoln as a as a choice. He I feel like he's got to be pretty high Lock it in. Yeah Let's go with that That's uh, that's a lock in from you there theo just making sure Uh, yes Okay, let me just check make sure I got the exact Location which is uh, not on the list Whoa, that is a penalty of 30 points Damn No abraham lincoln All right, nice. I think we're going to have to rethink our approach then nice If we fucked up the first one they fucked up the second one. We're very very good. We're back in it team fleam Where do we go? All right, I think we got to go big prophet Yeah, either a la or prophet mohammed A la's not real. It's it's mohammed. Yeah, someone correct me. I'm I'm Okay, so are we locking it mohammed Yes, is that it was that yes. Yes It's I think mohammed is number one That is 100 points Team grumble europe I'm wondering if it might be worth instead going after figures with like Because of the collection method after figures with extensively documented on wikipedia historiography as it were So that would be like world war two political leaders kind of Like what are like if we went for like uh, eisenhower or uh, I was thinking along like starlin But um, I mean he probably ended up pretty high on that list, right in terms of reference figures Yeah, do you think it's just a matter of weighing that against the buddha Yeah, right. Um, hmm Uh, I don't know. I feel like Hmm I guess some don't so think about as well as maybe like, uh, philosophers as well. Maybe like shock routines or Um, a play-doh or Aristotle. Thank you. They're probably pretty on the list probably Gone, but I guess I guess we gotta we gotta find uh, yeah What one sorry? I've been thrown off by the fact that Abraham Lincoln's not on the list. Yeah, that's pretty crazy. Um, that's that's that's surprising Uh Uh, what about what about julius Caesar? I imagine that's a Mulder do you mind if I ask you to remind me of the collection method? Uh, think of it as just every reference on every page of every wikipedia and most of the common languages Okay That makes me want to go with the buddha because uh, we're thinking outside of just english Uh, I'm gonna do that Yeah, so the buddha Very well, uh, buddha is not on the list. Holy fuck It's over I love watching you guys overthink this and then somehow I don't do what overthink it. I'm just satisfied with this list No, and he's according to the criteria for that list those two things should be on the list like that's ridiculous I mean, it was funny buddha was referenced for a team Uh, fleam and dev I believe said that there will be a no-go based on the rules At least the understanding. Um, so it's interesting that one team thought no and the other team thought yes Uh, I'm not surprised by buddha. I'm surprised by Abraham Lincoln, but I'm not surprised by buddha not being on the list What was the reasoning again for buddha? Uh Yeah, there's that. Yeah. Oh, there's there's there's a couple reasons why it might not make it. We meanwhile I mean, I don't want to say anything else If we're talking about referenced on wikipedia, that's that means it's gonna disproportionately favor written works. All right, so You know what we should do shakespeare Ah, that is a really good answer. That's the real good one most famous writer That's good to be on there. I've got I've got a little list. I'm sort of yeah I'm kind of typing out here as people come to mind But that's a really good one. I think we should go with we should go with billy shakes. Yeah I have I have one for the next one, but that's even better. Go ahead. Let's do it. Let's do it Going with shakespeare? Are we locking in shakespeare? I like it. Yes. Is this uh, is this a number two? I see before me shakespeare is 36 on the list All right, all right. We should have gets the number too as well. I'll take it No, no Okay, you're out of my client is clinic which gives you 64 points Which gives you a grand total of one hundred two hundred and fifty. I believe my math's gonna have to be checked by chat Nice in fleam That's right grumbo. You got some work to do you got some catching up to do Don't worry. The later rounds will definitely make this a lot more even if Things don't quite work out for you But Those are such good picks and for them to not be on there. It's um, well, so Uh, what was do we want to try julius Caesar? He's got to be referenced a lot, right surely It's like one of the most important historical figures But then again, how much would he be referenced directly? Um Directly referencing julius Caesar compared to referencing his impacts Hmm I don't know. It's still though. It's like julius Caesar. You know, I know right Whereabouts do you think that he would uh end up what about what about Let's maybe let's uh, let's let's widen our net here and think about other historical figures. Uh I mean we could try george washington um At this point, i'm not confident and I have any understanding of the rubric here. So i'm content Uh, yeah, let's why don't we why don't we try george washington? Yeah We are locking in mr. Mr. Washington george himself Alrighty george washington is Not on the list Yeah, that figures Okay All right, I have uh, I've got I'm thinking that we might Go with a very prominent historical figure that maybe might not come to mind at first, but I think a lot branches from her um My my thought I know my thought is Um, either we go with julius Caesar Or we go with queen victoria I was thinking playtto or trump might be safer. Don't you think I've got your is acting up bad. Yeah Um, I've got playto on my list. Well, hold on. Hold on. I'm Mahler it is it is based on wikipedia references, right? That's what it claims. That's the best I can give you Yeah, so like victoria might actually work because you have the victorian era and everything that comes from it Yeah, and everything that's named after her Yeah So that's my thought. Uh, I think that would be a good one I also I hope trump is between mohammed and jesus because that would be you know, we can float We can float one zero at this point. So let's try victoria. Let's do it. Well, I don't like the attitude But no, um But I I do think queen victoria will probably get us a lot of hits Based off on the list the reign and the name and how much and the age and stuff like that So I I'm keen on going with queen victoria. It should at least be on the list like there's enough It should be if that's right. I'll join walking her in join team grumbau and my my my my dissatisfaction with the list. She's not the reigning queen of 1819 alexandrina victoria Is not on the list. What the fuck? That's a 30 point penalty Queen victoria is not on the list. What do you got to do? Oh, so rags rags. We should get the safe The reason that I thought victoria might not be on the list is because I was thinking maybe they wouldn't actually count the victorian period And everything that is victorian because it's not her Well, even if obviously not everything in the victorian period had to do with her But the amount of things that are named after her and the amount of stuff that comes from that everything time Team grumbau's 10 And the references alone, maybe I'm try Humphrey. Let's go Humphrey Bogart. Let's stop doing historical figures for a time. Let's just go for celebrities actors That's an issue Humphrey Bogart. Yeah without you. You want to lock in Humphrey Bogart? That's a domain in which I have no real information. So sure He is Not on the list. Okay. Well, all right. You are Negative what is that 23? Negative Are we doing negative numbers do it up? All right, I got I got a really good guess What's what's your really good guess because I thought mine was really good and I thought the logic takes out But I've got a very good. Keep it safe this time. All right. Okay Okay, go ahead team fling albert einstein albert einstein Uh, that's on my list as well. I think now You did a lot of writing you did a lot of writing added to the other two till I don't last Yes, I thought einstein would be like super safe and I'm I'm I'm wavering on that now, but I still say I still say go for it. But if you're so so I have another I might want to float by but that's it's not bad. So I just will keep trying to consider which one is the safest though Like do you feel that that is safer than played over? I don't know. I don't know People will be talking about Metta about this list. Um not trump. I think so I think I just as a one I wouldn't be shocked if I was high and I wouldn't be shocked if he's not on the list like this Yeah, that's what you'll know. Well, let's see. Let's do it. Let's do einstein Uh, the einstein and and let's see Let's go for it. Let's see the einstein's on the list. I'm I'm all for it Albert einstein albert einstein Is on the list and he's number 17 Wow, congratulations I think it's going to be skewed towards people who wrote a lot so it very well might be people who have, you know All right team grumbau I just want to throw another scientist because like I don't know Isaac Newton Yeah, I'm happy with that That's a good answer Okay, we're locking in Isaac Newton for good ol team fleam. No wait team grumbau. Just make it sure. All right. Good stuff Isaac Newton is Indeed on the list. How could he not be? But where does he place? Number two Isaac really? What? Isaac Newton is number two Congratulations. That is That was pretty shocking What's the algorithm here? I feel like I'm starting to get some kind of an impression, but the placements are really fucking bizarre So does that mean I suppose you start to think about it physicists Like is he referenced in every single physics page? Maybe Is that how that works? Probably newtonian physics. So is Aristotle Plato Socrates I think Plato should definitely on there if he's there Newton crosses over into philosophy because of his relationship to Leibniz Now I'm starting to think about okay Uh, yeah, now I'm starting to now. I'm starting to wonder Anyway, it's your turn team play All right, I have more good ideas if you guys Are you want me to Let's keep it out of the ones that we've had too as well. Yeah, that's why it's useful to have the stream Up so you start to see it form Yep, I was just thinking if Isaac Newton's there then Plato Tatl definitely should at least be on this list. I think if we're going with philosophers Then I'm thinking what is the most popularly referenced philosopher? It would have would it be Nietzsche Nietzsche, would it be Socrates? Would it be Uh Plato would be my guess I think But then I'm wondering well as for people written about Do we go with I mean Julia Caesar's on the list and what about musicians like Beethoven? Didn't they guess Julia? Wasn't that one of their guests yet? I don't think no Caesar has not been guessed Or was it and again now like world war two leaders like Churchill Stalin Eisenhower? Um, yeah Stalin should be on here if Hitler's on here. So that's oh, what about wait, wait, wait What about Leonardo da Vinci? That's good. Yeah. Yeah, that's a good. Yeah. God damn it. I was gonna say that one. Let's try da Vinci You want to lock in Leonardo da Vinci? Very well the inventor of pizza Lock him in you shall he is number five on the list Wow 95 points goes to team fleam. Yeah Get fucked hitler Do we want to try Socrates I feel like he's gotta be really high His name is out there. So I figure we have to just throw him out now and if he's not on there then, you know, just gunhead Gunhead. Yeah I like that one. We are locking in Socrates. Are we? Yeah, isn't that the plan? Yeah Alrighty, I can indeed confirm. He is on the list. But where on the list? I don't know I'm gonna guess Low thirties He is number 13 All right, he just edged out out of it Bye-bye Did it but nice you did it that would be 87 points. There is all Socrates. All right Um, well, I guess in keeping with what we're discovering about this list I feel we probably are going to have to go with Charles Darwin Well played off. Yeah, that's pretty good I will can't no playdough is good. I agree Are you on the same? I'm thinking Charles Darwin, I mean the theory of evolution by natural selection is like the basis of biology It should definitely be on the list So if it isn't like if this is Darwin's gotta be on the list I share a birthday with Darwin, by the way, but I really think that I think we gotta go with Charles Darwin, right? Mm-hmm Deb, are you locking in Charles Darwin? Yes, very well. Give me a moment Uh, Charles the good my man Charles. He is on this list and he is exactly at Top 20 There he is. No There he is. What was that? Charles Darwin number 42 Okay, all right. Fair enough. I thought he'd be higher because the science is still worth, you know, 58 points. Not bad I'll take it. I'll take it. I guess Uh, so is it worth just like? Snagging play-to while they're doing other things God damn it. Snag all of the old Greek philosophy Yeah, because I have all the ones that I'm pretty confident in that I really wanted to lock that guy in Let's keep them to ourselves. Yeah, we'll go for play-to then Oh 50s. Sorry. Just making sure I got the points right. There you go. You're locking in play-to my boy. Yep You sure I guess yeah, that's just my way of delaying. So good stuff Play-to is indeed on the list and he is number seven 93 points I mean, I I guess it's really hard to toss up twins operates and play-to Okay, cool All right. Well Man team fleam are 200 points ahead At this point we have to round out the trilogy. So we should do Aristotle Hey, let's do it. Right. You know what? Why don't you just let us do that? No, they still play-to from us. Just take Aristotle We didn't steal play-to from you. I'm a pretty sure we've had some play-to before you guys Yeah, you're right. You stole it back. Yeah, there's a lot of things I've written down that I haven't said but I totally stole play-to from you. You're right. Consider because I don't Hmm, okay, you know what? You we'll go with Aristotle. Yeah. Yep. Okay sounds good. Yep Aristotle walking in are we we sure dev Oh, we're doing very well Aristotle is indeed on the list and he ranks in at number six Nabs 94 points for team fleam Uh, the most referenced philosopher religion and philosophy kicking us. Um Dude, what about what about one of the uh, what about one of the original psycho analysts before you say that? Uh, I I kind of want to get this one out there. Uh, Johanna's Gutenberg Uh, wait, what do I reckon? Inventor of the printing press the press. Oh damn. Yeah Yeah, yeah Hmm Sorry, I will say the fact that the fact that I didn't know and then a lot of people in chat I don't know Like looking at the criteria here Surely he has to at least be on the list. I would be fucking stunned if he wasn't So here's the thing Who knows you want to keep that in your back pocket for when when things get uh later on and then go for I guess Then again, I thought your intention was a team grumble. What do you reckon the likelihood is of Taking it now that the name is out there though because rags is compiling his laundry list That number four. Who is that number four? Hey Tony I guess I guess that's all I'm asking is do you want to do you want to hold on to that? Or do you just want to Throw it out, but I also think this decision shouldn't have been given to me. So, you know Let's uh, yeah Okay, okay. We are locking in Johanna's Gutenberg. Was it? Yep. All right Well, I can put your fears to rest and say he is indeed on the list. So good shout because I I didn't even know that one I was like, well, yeah printing press. Yeah, but Where was he on the list? I don't know if I regret to inform you or happily inform you that he is 61 Wait, okay No, I did label it right 61. Okay, so that makes 39 points. Not bad So I'm If we're going with yeah, um, okay We got it. We got to choose. We got to choose the ones that are big and obvious at this point. So Caesar Caesar Freud Freud is Freud some Freud's a maybe for me He's one of those guys that has definitely talked about a lot. It's got to be Freud I think Julius Caesar should be over him if we're talking about safe fix like we all agree I think that I think I think that dead greek meta is pretty strong right now. Um So let's let us consider. Okay. He was he was roman Close enough now. Here's my here's my suggestion, right? My suggestion is Pythagoras Caesar we got to think about like not just being on the list, but how high they are too. I think I do Julius Caesar is good but Recent events have shifted my perspective on what answers should be given and I feel like Like people like building blocks of mathematics philosophy that kind of thing. I feel like they're going to get more hits Um, and which Freud is under that umbrella But I think it has to be Freud. I think Freud's the big one. All right. Well, you are the team leader. You're the team weave I don't want to just bully you constantly, right? I know. No, I'm not. I don't feel bullied. I don't feel I think it's a little disappointed in you. I'm not I think it's safer for Caesar But if you have a thought process behind it, then um Well, I I'm trying to keep it. I got a logic that I can understand based on this list when it comes to yeah sociology or psychology Freud wrote a lot more and he's referenced a lot. Yeah, that's right Every time I fuck your mom that's a reference to Freud Which I do often and you mentioned you think that um, you mentioned you think that's affecting the list like, um People who yes, okay. Yeah, definitely. Yeah, I think I think that's that's that's what this list is. So let's let's do We are locking in Sigmund Freud. Is that true? Let's do it. Let's do it. I completely trust my team. That's a really good choice to the bitter end This will be number four though, so it's not even gonna matter. This is number four. This is it This is Freud. We all think Sigmund Freud is on the list at number 54 All right. All right, I have a decent idea for actually 46. Not bad All right. That's fair. That's fair. Okay. Okay. That's interesting because I was gonna say Carl Jung But if Freud is there then I feel like Jung's got to be below that Yeah um Okay, so that's got to be better. What about what about um I like noses that seems like a safe one to me um Man, I'm really throwing off the Buddha wasn't on the list When it comes to there's one along those lines that I want to throw But yeah, considering the Buddha wasn't even there. I don't know. I uh, how do you feel about Confucius? Uh That's probably your way. What why you're interrupting now our conversation here I actually am I want to help you a little bit because I want to Chaos So, uh, yeah team grumbau what we thinking? Um, I think I think Confucius is he's got to be high on that list. I'm happy with that Okay, I guess Confucius then You're locking in Clueless, you know, yeah surely. Yeah Alrighty well, I can confirm Confucius is on the list. So congratulations for getting that far But what level is he at? Where would he be? I can confirm. He's at number 23 77 points Okay, cool. Not bad Yeah, that's good. All right dev What is it that was on uh, your mind if it will help us and not them Okay, so Mahler is the reason why Buddha wasn't on the list is because his name wasn't actually buddha. That was just his title Um, yes his actual real name Well, as I tried to explain this is a bit scuffed. So I'm worriedly trying to figure out why exactly That would maybe you may not have tuned up Well, I will say if we do find out that it was his original name rather than the buddha Then I mean, surely we got to get that point from the yeah, they should get the point then Oh, yeah, that's an easy fix if that were true Yeah, presumed are we talking about sydhartha guatama? I think he's usually he's usually the figure. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, so put your fears to rest for he is not on the list. I wait a minute You know how they got me was yes, but he's not it's just the sydhava sort of threw me off So that yeah, no wonder I did okay But that means you just get 38 points and I can reveal because he will not 38 points He's ranked 38 so you get So we need to gain a 30 Yeah, 62 that we lost Oh that too, so it's 92 then Oh nice catch that puts you back in So if it was 92 then knockoff eight boost a hundred, right? 60 Yeah, you're gonna have to check them doing this right. Okay 60 64 But it'll be worth just having a calculator from I've got so many all three of my monitors are stuffed Unfortunately I might be able to fit a calculator in here You got to go. I think chat. Well chat are invested there. There are people in chat who really want both teams to win So we should be okay get a captain bested. I'm already just seeing conflicting answers Okay, uh, but it's it's your guys turn still Um, sunshine or a Caesar. I think one of those got it up rank high. Do you mean sun suit or sun suit? Sun suit. Sorry. Sorry. I always get that one. Um, sun suit Sun suit is probably pretty good. Art of war homing good. Um I'm saying do we need to you stick through and do the Pythagoras or comedies kind of you know those guys I just think it's a safer pick like Caesar is really like I think he's number four I think we should just steal that or at least, you know Let's try sun suit. I think All right, I will I will go with my I will go with my teammates very well If they want your sun zoo Art of war is referenced everywhere. Yep You wish to lock in sun suit Oh We'll see now we'll self-conscious because I'm like wait a minute. There's not some kind of alternate set of names for him Right, that's the one the should be the only place you'll have that problem. Fine Well, as you can probably tell then why would I ask that question other than saying sun suit is not on the list Bullshit It's I'm gonna I'm gonna go ahead and say right Pythagoras. I think is a really good guess. I think we should try Pythagoras I think you're completely right I was gonna Pythagoras I can't believe Wow, yep, I'm happy. Yeah team grumble. Are you sure you want to lock in pythagoras? Yep, Pythagoras. All right. Well, I'm not crazy Mr. Pythagoras is indeed on the list at 29 Not bad. That's what I mean. Good. I mean Pythagoras makes a lot of senses I guess, but I'm surprised sun suit I'm surprised you're not on there. I I'm still processing that how's he not on this list I have one obvious easy one we can do next to stay ahead What? Oh, okay I can do it. I'll be an obvious easy one for the last few rounds Okay, fine. We'll do scissor. Fuck it. Yeah, get him out the way We'll afford going with the fuck it then buy whatever, right? Fuck it My team has been asking for like to fuck it. It's mean to me You've been asking for like like 10 rounds. It's just fucking yeah. Yeah. Just to get scissor out of my mouth like I just Hang on add add 71 to 64 for some reason my brain's locking up on that So it's wait. Yeah, I oh you're asking 35 135 plus 64 is 135 Yeah, which means chat. You can double check me. That's right, right five three five. Yeah, we good. Okay. What were you saying? Was it Caesar? Yeah, yeah Team fleam going with Caesar, huh after all this time I don't believe it I don't believe it. Let me just there you go. Yes. He is in the list It's not exactly surprising at this point. I think most people have assumed he would be But where in the list? I don't know. I can let you know. He is number 19 Julius really? All right. All right. He was a politician if you didn't know, okay Do we want to do we want to try alexander the great? Um, that seems like a really free one Yeah, I'm I'm up with that. Yeah, I have Yeah, nothing else seems as free as yeah alexander the great. Yeah, sun stew really set us back. Oh man Um, also giving him the booty set this back, but in the spirit of fair play Okay, why my brain keeps locking up 88 and 66 always 81 and 66. Yeah 81 and 66 together makes If anyone can do it as well Oh 27 47. Good there you go Because it's just carrying the 100 is easier. She's got a figure Okay, sorry. What was the guess? Uh, we're going with alexander the great Hmm alex That's uh, that's a decent guess. I think that's what I think and I'm impartial So that means it's gotta be worth it. That means it's a really good guess, right? Because that puts him at number 10 alexander the great. Okay Not okay, all right. Yeah, make sense. That's easy math. Thank you 90 points Wow, unless I've dramatically been fucking up the math you guys have managed to level out again 647 for fleam a lot of great guesses 625 for grumbau And I think dev was gonna try and help them. Can you believe it rags crazy? Yeah, I can't. Yeah, I can't I did help them Okay I think we should get bonus points because our team name is hard to rhyme with a positive word I'm afraid that goes against the rules. John. I can't do it Dream This is positive right. Can't blame me for trying supreme Right dream flames All right, so Okay, so um This might be I need you to think about this because I think this could either I think this is I don't it shouldn't be a wild card, but this list is strange. All right I mean the list is not he like in great crazy someone saw this. I feel like most people be like, oh, I recognize all of those guys Pause the order of that guess. Yeah But about like now if we're but however, I you know actually Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait. Hold on to hold on to paul, right? I'm actually surprised no one's mentioned that we need to go with napoleon Hmm Well, hold on you've both now said napoleon and genghis Khan and they're both really good I didn't say genghis Khan, you know team grumbos. Just just I love this discussion Genghis Khan, I said genghis. It's on my Genghis Khan is now he's out the while he's in the ether Yeah, it's just doing all the thinking for us, you know Whatever that means in this game. It's locking what we got to lock in one of those at least that's not one of those two We got to get one of those. I think maybe you got to go with napoleon All right, let's go with napoleon. Yeah, I think he's locking in What's your what's your thought process for why napoleon like I have no fucking shitting me No, no napoleon over genghis khan Between those two if we have to pick which is safer, what's your thought? I think the amount that european history, especially that time period is written about referenced in his shaped politics I think napoleon ballin apart is going to be more prominently referenced and written about more biographies More references in in you know political history. Okay that kind of thing Okay, fair. That's it lock it in plus all the short memes Dev are we locking in napoleon? Yes I can confirm napoleon is on the list. He's pretty high at number 12 Yeah, boy. Nice. Good shit So the thing is that makes a lot of sense to me, but i'm still baffled that george washington isn't on this list Same with sun stew. It's just So we just have to report with genghis khan, right? You didn't guess washington you guessed Or did they did they I'm pretty sure we guessed I don't Am I to remember all of this craziness? In any case, yeah, i'm happy with genghis khan Yeah, I feel like that's just pretty much forced Are we locking in mr. Genghis? Yep genghis Just clarifying with my list goblins they they like to Want to make sure everything's going great here. Okay. I can confirm. He's on the list I suppose the big question is did he get a higher rank than napoleon? That was that was the big drama Well, I can confirm he is number four Genghis Wow, that's why I asked That is why I asked because this list is just mad That kind of does shock me that he's And sun stew is not on the list genghis How this is what I'm saying. This is why I'm like we gotta really take this through Yeah, actually that makes sense In terms of references, I can't believe I don't think I was gonna be on this list, but fucking hell um Okay Head Okay, new rule team, let's not throw 18 different I can't believe our our teammate casually threw out number four. I can't believe no one considered it. I was It made more sense than napoleon according to this list, but you asked me if I was List is nuts. We have to we gotta roll with crazy Are we going for what now Stalin might be eight according to this fucked up list? So like who knows so you threw out Stalin And he's been thrown out by I think of their team earlier in the game So we should probably snap him up. He's probably gonna be on there. Let's just nag him Yeah, watch watch him be eight or something. Who knows wait who we snagging Stalin joseph stalin sure Wait, it sounded like this discussion to be had there. Are we going with stalin? We locking him in What's happening there sure means yes. All right. Yes Stalin is being locked in he is on the list which makes a lot of sense because he's quite influential The many would argue. Yes, uh, but we're on the list number 37 goes to stalin Not bad 63 points. Okay. Oh Just how about how about your boy carl marx? Um, yeah It's carl marx. I'll pull the apostle Um Hmm Hmm Well, you know what? Why don't you uh, why don't you choose there? What the fuck go damn it? That's a lot. I'm I'm mad, um Oh, do you want to flip a coin on that one? Uh, let's go with pole Okay Hole sure the apostle There uh, there's no no need for any discussion further. I guess he's overruling. That's fine. I mean if you want to put it that way I've been told to overrule What am I to do? Very well pole the apostle is indeed on the list. He is at number 60 Look at him go. Okay lower than I thought. Yeah, which is 40 points Yep, it's 40 points. Yeah All right team fleam Um Nope All right Actually, he's our team leader. He's our team leader. He's he wants the mox man Yeah, I mean, all right. He's overruling. He said not bad not a bad answer Well, as yeah as long as you're comfortable. I don't want the teams to feel you know abused I don't want any cancellations happening years later from behind the scenes of the tv show. No, no I love carl marx. He's great. All right We've got a lot of experience with him in video video assayists So it makes a lot of sense. He would show up a lot. He is indeed on the list and he is number 31 All right, very good 69 points, right? Not bad Not bad at all Nice if they're gonna pick marx. They should share some of their points with us It's only fair. Okay, can we get some of the gang is gone? Can we get some gang is gone? Please can you share the gang is gone? I don't get out of here. I think it all belongs to Genghis Khan, you know Well, right in century philosophers. Do we think nature? I mean, he's got to be on the list. I'm just Surely nature is on the list. I have better guesses though, but okay, and I think that's fairly obvious Like I think Christopher Columbus Um, oh, that's yeah, let's let's uh, damn you Theo Christopher Columbus then. Yeah, damn you Like one of the only ones I know like properly to reference to learn about that fucker in school Wait, so what are we looking in team grumbos for Columbus? I know that one Let me just check with my goblins All right, he is on the list But what are we thinking? Where would he be? What do you guys reckon before I reveal the truth? I think Columbus going really high or really low upper middle is where I'd say middle Top 30 maybe. Well, he is at number 16 Oh, um, that was my pocket pick Okay team fleam grew up All right, here's what I'm thinking. I'm thinking thinking charlemagne I was thinking Martin Luther King, but No, that's on my list, but I didn't say it But just to put it up against you but think about it last time I did that I was completely right. Should we go to number four gaggis con or number 42? Darwin, so I think we should consider at least which one is the safer pick and which one would be higher out of those two Well, I think the logic is that I I would have said Darwin is a safer pick. I think the logic would check out on that, but You know what? You know what? Yeah, it's just so Mangled. I'm still the the sun she won but just between those two. I just which one do you think would rank higher? Hey, what was the first one? Rags, what was yours? I said charlemagne and I said Martin Luther King because I think we should try to snag an eight or nine potentially Wait, isn't there a junior attached to his name? Is it Martin Luther King? No, he was no. He was just charlemagne Charlemagne jr. Well dev you decide you might you sound like you team leader. You gotta lock in What are you gonna do? I think I think it actually Martin Luther King jr. Is the better guess this time. Sorry rags No, it's fine. It's great. They're both great. I'm glad they were both suggested openly Are we locking in Martin Luther King jr? Yes, let's do it. All righty. I can inform you directly confidently That he is not on the list. Oh, fuck. I'm sorry Oh, I don't even blame you because that's fucking shocking to me. Uh, I'll take that one on the chin I'd just be tempted to like not guess anybody who was a figure in the 20th century on this point I'm thinking the myth is the dead or the better. So I would go with that logic, but how do you account for sun shoe? That's your negative 30 points and now it's our turn to start Yeah Wait, is it charlemagne or charlemagne? It's pronounced charlemagne No one says that. Yeah. Well, well, theo says it. I've literally never heard anyone say charlemagne I don't exist rags second. Oh, oh, no You made this weird noise when you were saying it I said second. Oh second. Oh, that's yeah, charlemagne On the list and he ranks in at 59 Okay, okay, that's pretty long 41 points Relatively, it's gonna make sense. We met charlemagne the god Charlie Magney That's the best one Okay, okay Okay If this is what we're doing the next guy we do Before you say something because we want to offer as little As you know, we can right does any of the three of us feel like they've got a real banger I do. Okay. Go ahead. Let him go It's got to be linen next That's on my list. Yeah, I I think that's a safe one. I think that's a safe one Are we locking in vladimir? I before we locked that in just take a quick think of like any that we haven't Mentioned As time goes on the more careful everyone's being because the choices you're running out Like you should that's what I'm saying. I have no issue with the with the pick But I'm thinking since it's our opportunity If you had to guess Which do you think would be eight and nine and you think he would fit there? I don't know what to think anymore. He might fit there. I think he's more important than stalin was so looking at one through Looking at one through seven and also having um 10 to round it out I think we can take a really good stab at that what would be eight or nine And I think we should it's worth the risk trying to lock that in Well, we we already said it and we are and we all know what's on the list So you might as well take the three points this turn Okay, all right. Oh, wait, wait. Um, I don't think lennon is wait. Wait. I actually I actually no go ahead. Go ahead I don't want to reveal it. Don't reveal your good one. Yeah Right, right. We're locking in lennon Yes, I'm terrifying. Well, he is indeed on the list. I thought I was gonna make you have some peace there immediately But where is this legend? He is indeed at 49 Blood in you. All righty. All righty, which is 51 points. Not bad. Cool. He's lower than stalin. That's very strange So this is one that i'm gonna float and then we're gonna immediately pick it because it hasn't been brought up yet. Mozart Oh, Jesus. Yeah On my list Uh, once I give me yeah, yeah, no, I just go We are choosing we're locking in mr. Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart Yeah, the fact that you're reading out his whole name means he's on the list Well, to be fair, it means I've pulled up his wikipedia page just to make sure about different like Which I have to do for the ones that aren't on the list so I can confirm they are not on the list Though I imagine you'd all be pretty shocked if Mozart wasn't on the list. I would be absolutely floored If Mozart wasn't on the list, he is on the list and he's at number 15 Mozart, I thought he'd be right Feeling I should have said it earlier. Um, should we just Counter with Beethoven like Beethoven are we doing that? Yeah, we could do that. Yeah, I Sorry That is correct. Yeah, thank fuck a safe a safe counter, but there's also like Let's do the safe counter them. Yeah, I'm safe counter. Yeah, we'll do it. Yeah, wait. What are we doing? We're doing We are revealing the Beethoven drop card. There we go Interesting and we're definitely locking that in there dev Yep, nothing you maybe think that would be a bad idea. I'm kidding. I don't want to put you off it That'll be very bad of me to do he is on the list and he is at number eight Not bad 92 points Oh, I got one of them. Eight or nine awesome. Nice. Okay Damn because I said I wanted an eight or nine. I said I wanted it I had those Mozart and Beethoven But I was thinking that the way that this list might be compiled that they might not be high because of a musical element And that being dwarfed by other things, but what are you thinking? See, I I'm thinking Martin Luther No, they They said Martin Luther King, right? Martin Luther Yeah, the Protestant guy, right? Yeah, um, the other Martin Luther in the wings The person who not the king Europe for like hundreds of years Um, oh, we've all been there. Yeah, you know Okay Uh, do you want to lock in? Yeah, I Yeah, Martin Luther Martin Luther who is indeed on the list at number 21 Not bad. Okay up there 79 points wait Didn't we guess that? Yes, Martin Luther King Jr. Different. No, they're they're very very similar lives I just I just broke brain freeze for someone like wait a minute. I don't know. Okay, no problem So I have another good one we can try But I don't want to reveal it unless you guys think you have a really good one in the chamber Uh, um, let me see. So the rule is we're not risking more than one name per round Yes, we're gonna do here. Okay. I have a solid one, but I'm gonna I'm gonna defer for a moment If you feel like you've got a solid one, then we'll go with it Can you reference like what they are just so maybe we can have a just kind of just something? Maybe we can guess like I have a lot of stories possible now Okay, so now we have two games going where my teammates need to guess my guess And then you got to lock in the guest. Don't throw me in with this. I have some I I'm trying to describe it. I feel like that and even in my description that might give it away It definitely thinks it's solid. I think we should go with it. I think it's all I think it's all with it Dev, what are we locking in? Okay, you you mentioned yours. You mentioned yours. What is yours? Let's go with chairman Mao We're walking that in He's like the general dude, right? He was the I think chinese general or something Mao Zedong He was he was China's dictator man. Yeah Yeah, yeah, he should be on the list based on what we have here should be Just want to give you guys a little more time to uh have a little chat about that pick I'm not delaying it all just to make sure I'm checking everything Mao Zedong is the name just to since this guy needs more time. I also think you know what? That's not Don't It's all good confirmed. You're fine. Mao Zedong is not on the list What? What are you shitting me in my butthole? Good god unless I've made a dramatic mistake in which case we'll correct this later if I have Pretty sure he's not I'm afraid Um, all right. Well while we're doing A 30 point penalty for team Him and son him and son too to be on here like I He hasn't been the chinese meta is not I am gonna go ahead and say that the asian hate We should uh, we should get michael angelo Yeah, you're completely right michael angelo fuck Are you sure you want to lock in michael angelo? Very well. He is on the list and he ranks at number 32 Okay, I'll take that not bad Just do all the ninja turtles Rapha I raise you one Raphael No, I um Just thinking of famous authors Can we slip in? Maybe an Edgar Allen Poe Stephen King like pick one of those two I think Poe is more famous than king What do you think right? I'm not sure if either of them will make it. Oh I don't know. I don't know if the way that this list sort of Oh now that last one really threw me for a fucking loop. Um I don't know I don't know if Stephen King as as famous as he is. I don't know if that would Put him high here on this list of being referenced for things or or is every Stephen King book that's printed count as a thing for him or Um, because if that's the case we need to go with the actual best-selling author of all time So do we do Stephen King or do we go with the best-selling author? Because I'm not going to say the name obviously until you give me the okay. I think I think I know what you're talking about. Yeah Mmm. That's a rough one because that's entirely modern There I mean, they are modern. It is tricky. Uh, but if you're going to go with a writer, we should probably go with You know who? And if you give me the okay, we can go with it I think I know what you mean. I think I know what you mean A casual and neutral reminder to keep up the stream so you guys can look at your results and see if you can spot any patterns for future guesses. Oh, I'm staring at this thing. Trust me Yeah, there hasn't been many writers. There's only been Shakespeare. So maybe not writers It is a bit of a gamble Well Okay, so we let's not do it and let's save it if it's a we I'd rather go with uh, Something else that's less of a gamble Because I notice Just while considering how much of a gamble it is how much do they compare to Shakespeare in your opinion The Shakespeare like leagues ahead of those two or is it I think Shakespeare is the most famous author of all time Yeah, but in terms of bestselling. I don't think so um now I'm looking at this list. Oh wait. Hold on. I'm a pretty decent one. It's not author. We want to do a scientist Uh, of course it might be on my list. Well, I I was Let's do uh, Stephen Hawking I was going to play Stephen Hawking is I was going to Tesla Edison over him, don't you think Let's do let's do let's do Hawking You wish to log in Stephen Hawking. Is that correct? Yes. Yes higher. I'll kill you That's the Stephen's belt with a pH. Is it I forget. Yeah. Yeah, so he's got the wheelchair Oh, I know. I know. I'm just I'm just ensuring something Which uh, I have some bad news. He is not on the list. Oh my god That is insane Sorry go on They they floated Thomas Edison. I'm not very interested in actually picking Thomas. I have another one I want to throw out. How do you know I didn't do that on purpose? How do you know I'm not just playing my game? I want to go back to a Greek Okay, uh, who are you thinking Euclid? Hmm How do y'all spell that? E you Uh, well, you know what you for the geometry. It's probably worth snagging them up actually. Yeah this one's either not on the list or really high and I I'm leaning more towards the former than the latter, but who knows. So yeah, let's go Euclid. Okay. Yeah Um, Euc just just help me out here because Euclid Cool just confirming good stuff. I have very good news not on the list That is strange. That's not good news. That's legitimately strange. I thought that was a really good answer I'm I definitely wasn't my last agarist is on there, but Euclid isn't I Well, here's the thing path agarist makes sense Euclid doesn't he should be on the list Yeah, that's what I'm saying like the one if the one is on the other should also I feel like that's that's okay I've got another one that we can hopefully pull us back in next round There's a few that you could say that should be on the list based on someone else being on there Yeah, right. No, that's okay. Remember. We're still we're still in the lead inexplicably Oh Oh, man for a reminder team fleam with 920 points, but team grumbo running ahead with 1,088 They were negative at one point. We can't So there is jumbo There's a name that's been floated a lot that I don't think anyone snagged it up yet And we should probably snag it up. No, I won't be saying anything. Uh, the great. Are you going the greek man? No, george washington Distressed by how many people in the chat haven't heard of me. I here's the thing nobody guessed what nobody guessed what I know That's because abraham lincoln has this fucking terrified to say a president Let's face our fears then rags. We'll hold hands together and we'll say george washington Okay team leader Um, this is a risky one, but if you feel in your heart of hearts That uh, are we locking in why not george washington? Wait, wait, are we sure it wasn't guessed though? Um, it was lincoln that was guessed not washington. I think we guessed lincoln Okay, yeah, yeah, I guess lincoln because of course you guessed lincoln, but he wasn't even on the list. So Who knows what will happen? Isn't it exciting that we have no fucking clue if he's on this list or not? Let's try it. Let's make it such an interesting challenge. I can never guess this one. Oh, yes, it's very interesting No, it does genuinely. Um, I'm in an awkward position because a lot of chat saying it has been guessed I think we did this one. I remember I was paying attention. Uh, washington was guessed washington was not guessed no I think we floated washington Now that i'm thinking I don't I feel like if you guys had guessed two presidents We would have talked about the fact you guessed two presidents Yes, I don't believe that it was guessed and uh, if we're all because the thing is i'm not keeping track of which ones were Guessed incorrectly. I'm afraid I should have been But um, so what is guess trump 20 times? I like how in chat it was scrolling by and I looked over it said what's a queen victoria near certain and i'm like, yeah, man So yes, it seems that we're all in agreement that it was not guessed and uh, I can confirm That he is not on the list I Whatever you say list maker. That's unbelievable. Well the thing is they they would have to say that's what I do Which is just we didn't make the rule. Well, we did make the rule I want to take a pretty obvious that one that should be good, uh galley layer Oh Damn you Say them out loud. I That's it's my fault for saying that loud and he guessed that All right, so, uh, okay. I didn't say it. That's literally one that kept inside. Are we locking in galley. Oh galley Yes, beautiful number 11 excellent choice Oh my god 89 points All right team fleam have a little chat because I got to figure out the maths on this Well, that was mine, so um Most written about historical figures. I have one we haven't touched yet. What do you think rags? Do you have one? I think he he went off to he huffed off. Yeah, he was upset about the walking thing one. He's still Considering that didn't work We can lock something in without rags involvement. We can drag him along with us You can because ultimately dev, it's your call. It is your call, man Just recall me. What happened with the hawkings pick. I'm not seeing it here. Yeah, it didn't seem to It wasn't even oh What what do you got team fleam? No, no, okay. Give me yours first. Give me yours first We gotta bring this back with a strong one If I give you mine, I'm gonna lock it in because I think it's a good idea If hawkings wasn't on then I think all right. I'm back. What's just happened We're trying. Yeah, we're trying to keep a team grumbau had an excellent gas Uh of galaleo and it is now team fleam's turn galaleo was number 11 Oh, that's on my list. I should have fucking pressed for that shit All right. Well, then okay. Well, then we're we're it Do you have a really good one because I because I need to start pressing I have because somebody's on my list and they turn out to be really high Yeah, that kind of one never kind of was the one like you let's let's see yours rags. What do you got? Okay? We're caperna cus Hmm. It's not bad maybe Yeah, since the days of caperna cus man has dreamed of flight on this historic day and for those who didn't know Galaleo was an astronome Noma astros Space taffling some might say let's you know what let's try out caperna cus Yeah, I feel if galaleo was 11. I feel like caperna cus is a worthy, you know follow-up to that Are we locking in caperna cus? Sure, sure very well caperna cus is on the list and he ranks at 26 Hey 74 points and that he's on the list in washington isn't that's fucking incredible You can go through the list of how many are shocking there. It's crazy I uh, i'm gonna float another one that hasn't been mentioned yet that I think should be on here macky of ellie Yeah, macky of ellie should be on here with the evil guy who makes plans Oh, it's not actually that evil but it could be scheming the evilest He's a schemer. Yeah They name schemes after you I don't notice no one ever says gondian schemes. I think he's on there, but I don't think he places highly would be my guess Yeah, i'm not sure Okay, uh, uh, what do you think though? Uh, his name's out there now. So the thing is is that there's one Here's another one that's worth considering don't say I kind of wanted to take one that they already said that I don't think did thomas eddison end up getting placed I don't think thomas eddison would guess but i'm not i'm just not i'm not so sure the fact that like queen victoria is not on the list You reckon you know what i mean? I'm not so sure about But then again like 20th century figures have ended up on the list I'm getting so many like inventor like great people in the advancement of the sciences and so on You know Um I think I think eddison eddison's gotta be on there. So, you know, I I think I agree. Let's let's uh, let's go I feel like it could or couldn't you know, like I feel like it could be anything He's sabotaging you No, like i'm just like i'm legitimately interested Yeah, what are we locking in Thomas eddison Thomas eddison. We should have an easy counter if it's there Should we? Yeah, because I'm the one who brought that through it up When we were talking about um, yeah, go ahead. All right, thomas eddison is indeed on the list ranked at 34 Okay, you know what we're countered with then tesla counter Uh, yeah, go ahead counter with tesla. Yeah, no don't I Oh If eddison is there, I think tesla should be there and like Mind if I cut in quickly, uh, I've been informed by efap chat uh with receipts that we did in fact guess washington So I was completely fucking lying. So, um, they need an extra go. They need an extra go This is why I'm saying I swear that was guess somewhere. Yeah, I guess I'm just like a complete fucking liar I thought I had us. Oh I thought that was what happened. I thought that was we can give him we can give him uh refund the points and do a Uh, give him an extra tune, but one problem is that I've completely forgot I was editing this the score for team grumbau and I've forgotten what this score was So if chat can you help me out? What was this score supposed to be? It was 1254 Oh, so it's one two five four is correct, right or was it one two? Yeah One two five four is what you had it like a second ago and he switched it to 1154 Uh, all right, I'm just keeping an eye on chat some of them. They Will know but yes, uh, like I said, we'll refund the points then I really blanked out myself That was a collector. That's one of those, uh, we all did we all thought it was just suggested Um, hello in my mind. They said lincoln because well, so yeah, just to clarify that means the clarified to guess presidents Inflame get to uh Gases right guesses. So you want you want to blow one on tesla? I don't think it's blowing it. I was my I feel like I don't think I don't think tesla's If edison is on the list if edison is on the list tesla should be on the list and tesla is what I think We're even hawkings. I didn't think the hawkings was a good pick Walking was a great you were wrong. Uh, it's a great If we're talking here if we're talking Since we have two let's do tesla and now rags you pick one three one for each um Archimedes tesla and archimedes You walking in you want to see the result of one and then sink or do you want to just do them both? No, I'm hitting both buttons right now. But oh my god. Okay. Well Oh Nicola tesla is indeed on the list. So congratulations. That's good. He sits at number 41 And uh, and you're doing a double whammy, right? You crazy bastard That's cool. They hand it up there. I thought yeah, that is neat. I thought he'd be very lower. Yeah Archimedes was your second one. Did you say? Archimedes is on the list. Look at that. You've got two in a row and he sits at a wonderful slot that is four Nice nice Nice. Well done 59 and 76 dead greek murder Yes, that should be that should give you some good points. I am people matter, right? The science Science That jesse pink bin beam right now Since he has been floated and he's surely on the list. I feel like we should just take marquia valley. Yeah Uh If you want to find a way to discuss anything for a second, I'm just doing some adding um Marquia valley, he's a really you know, he's a really influential historical figure and that's that's essentially the thinking but then again So was george washington If that was victoria that they went on the left so she was walking I just want to throw her sheet Yeah, I just want to be a running trend of before The 1900s and you're probably safe that they're at least One ad you should probably Okay, the back the matter point sorted. What were you locking in there theo just to clarify I'll be curious to see where this one is I'm curious. He is on the list. Isn't that crazy? But where is obviously the interesting point and I would say it's interesting where he is because we haven't touched this area in some time 77 Yeah, that makes sense. Okay. Yeah, 23 points. Nothing to snore sneeze at or whatever they say. Sorry It's not that I was gonna say We were told by more chance, but you know So i'm gonna jump on one now Are you You two had your your double whammy, so now i'm gonna jump on sure No, we did we did let's let's let's do cleopatra That's on my list. Yeah, that's a good one. We might get some of our old cleo, huh? We'll check him with there Yeah, she was there was a whole Netflix series about it. Oh, yeah Netflix series should help all the controversy around that. Alrighty. Well, uh, are we locking that in there dev just making sure Sounds good. All right. Well, cleopatra is on the list at number 48 I'll take it. I'll take it. Um, yeah Now i'm thinking of another All right, do you have one? Uh, yeah, I'd like to snag a philosopher mathematician duo in reine de car Okay, that's pretty good actually. Hmm. That's he's one of the biggest names in philosophy outside of the greeks I figure there's no way, you know He's a big name in maths as well Yeah, he also had that give me the dick meme from pornhub. Yeah, that's reine de car Uh, so I just want to make a small correction. It's actually deskartis, but uh, oh my bad. Sorry. Oh deskartis That's who you meant. Well, he would well the last name was deskart But generally the family is referred to as the deskarts So normally they're just grouped together Do they have a do any go caught in I feel like it's just a deep good given right they had it back then I think so, but you're locking that in there Theo. Are you sure? Um, as sure as I'll ever be very well, you are correct and he sits at a comfy 35 Okay, not bad well, um Let me see I think we got a fine way to get that nine like make sure we secure the like the nine 18 20 like all the the highest slots that are left Well, I mean what would be you know, someone from antiquity? Maybe that kind of You got to go based on what's on the list and maybe rule think like that might help narrow it down Like what's between Beethoven and alexander hongering? I mean, I have I have a safe one that's lower If you want to just get easy points right away, uh I'm not giving up any more answers. So you you tell me If you guys have one that you think will actually be high on the list, we'll go with that But I have a safe one that I that I think is probably low in the list, but we'll probably get it I'm getting a running dry on names, but I think low and low and safe is something we could do if we were in the lead, but um Let's see. I think we got to take some risks. I'm thinking of I'm thinking of a roman emperor. So If you don't uh have one that you think is really good. I'm gonna go with him. We already did lincoln Lincoln was uh, yeah Lincolnous, I mean, it wasn't the most wasn't the most famous holy roman emperor. Um, charlemagne. We already did him We're going before holy roman empire A roman emperor. Oh, yeah, everybody thinks about every roman empire Everyone thinks about the roman empire All the time all the fucking time we already did that one Yeah, so who else was there? I mean there's like one other famous one. He was in Okay Rags go ahead. What do you got? All right. Uh, I think we should I think we need to go with constantine Oh I wasn't thinking him, but sure No, rags of all the all the dc characters. It's not that popular He was actually very very popular. He sold many dvds Um, he's no bad amount of vampires. He kills a controversial guest at all, but I'm just thinking where it would rank. I'm trying to think of the lumber. It's gonna be higher. You think it's a good guess rags Let's do it. Let's do it. I mean, I've been I've been shocked before Multiple times. So who knows safe guests or high guests. What are you aiming for here? We need to go high guests because if we play it safe, then we might not I mean, we're behind So we might want to try and yeah, we really need though if this shouldn't be A risky guess. I don't think this should it I mean, but who knows I've been shocked before multiple times. So go for it. But I'm a bit. Yeah Let's go with constantine emperor constantine. He's among the most famous emperors, especially owing to christianity Uh, dad, we're looking in Sounds good. All right. That is a negative 30 points That's insane I We're locking in we are definitely augustus. Yes Augustus I was I was thinking you were going for augustus rags I thought rags was going for augustus to him. Then when he said constantine, I'm like, that's a good guess But it's not as good as augustus. I don't think I'm really glad that you went with that one Are we locking in augustus? Yes, sir. Yes. Well, I can reassure you in saying he is on the list Is it exactly number 53? Okay, that is that's lower than I thought but That's points All right team flame if we're gonna stay on this track, we should lock in um, marcus aurelius You know what that's a good choice, but I That's uh, I don't know if that he's gonna be on the list We're getting to the territory of like we don't know how high they're gonna be or if they're even on the list, but it's still a decent pick Let's try to Any more deliberation on that or you want rags? I feel that you're unheard I I have a I have a greek Uh, uh, well, I've actually got uh two but one in particular, uh But is it worth mentioning the name when you've already given away such such berries to the other team? They seem lukewarm on it and I'm lukewarm on it too. Um, I'd rather I would rather go with mine Let's go with mine this time Locking in marcus aurelius You get well, not zero points negative 30 points Relevant lately people starting to yeah, you know learn more about him one now. No, he's always been relevant He really should be on there like He really should I'm thinking Ancient here's somebody that hasn't been floated that he's got to be on the list, right gilgamesh ooh Now you've said it. I'm willing to go with it, but uh No, yeah, no gilgamesh is a fictional character. I believe yes Gilgamesh is not real Was he yeah, no, yeah, he's not real gilgamesh wasn't real nor was in kadoo or So I want to float and I don't think he was real unless my history is just I always thought that gilgamesh was just A made-up character. He might have been based on someone real maybe but I don't think gilgamesh is real since civilization six No, no, no you've scared me out of it now Some vague strategizing we have something of a lead and most of the high places are currently gone So do you think it's worth trying to reach for more obscure people at this point? More obscure people who have a possibility of actually ending up on the list because I mean I've got some ideas for that I have a few I'm pretty sure I just had one who has now disappeared from my mind. So that's kind of annoying Oh, wait. No, no, no. He's come back. He's another uh, he's uh, he's he's uh, he's greek And I figure he's got to be on the list even though there's debate surrounding Whether he was an individual or whether he was a lot of well homer. Yeah That's on my list too. Thanks. Yeah Yeah, surely Yeah, I mean the simpsons has been running for fucking ages It's not a surprise Yeah, kind of a cultural icon. So did you guys hear the simpsons is good again? All right, are we locking in homer? Yep, very well. You are correct and he's ranks at 28 I need to I gotta go to the washroom so rags take over for a minute. Uh, hello Um, all right. Well, we bombed the last two. So I really think we got to get this in. Uh, let's see Well rags, I really don't feel really confident But remember that Constantine wasn't on the list. I know I have I have one that might be on there, but it's depending on how you feel about it Um, but I mean we can keep going. Let's just you know, let's row. Fuck it. Let's go out through all the greeks epicurus Not How I don't know this list it seems to be every Asian person I bring up just seems to not be on it So I'm not even sure because we did mal we did some too. Okay, then uh, so we can go with another one We got greeks for days Dev did say that you can make the call right rags. So Yeah, he deputized you Yeah, so you can make it clean. You don't have to wait for him Yeah, I got confused again. We're What how so I think I thought I almost said the way I do this is I do the math myself So that was our score before that helps. Oh, so what I need to add is 150 so it's well, you need to add 150 because uh Then I'd knock off the uh, the one right. Oh, right. Okay. So wait. So we we were 1378. What's uh, what? Is it 1450 Well, what was what were what was our points? Where would where did he rank? Uh, he was you had 78 points. I want to say Okay, so it was 1,300 and 78 plus boomer 72 points Plus 72, uh, so it'll be 1,450. Are you drinking or are you bad at math? Um, I'm it's it's I got too many things at the same time and I keep locking up on Anything with them. Come on. I'm juggling numbers is the problem. Uh, I'm right. I'm doubted I'm just trying to make sure I'm hearing what you guys are picking as well It's 1,450 though. I'll just have my calculator up if you want me to I should really find a window for one actually Just say that's okay. Oh Us endeavoring to slow down rather than like tumbling out. It's all good. It's all good Well, funnily enough, um, I think after team fleam's choice. We're moving into round two. Oh, shit Good boy. Are we? Um Do you want to mention the idea right there? What are we doing here? Well, I mean, uh, that one that one seemed kind of tepid on the response so we can go with someone That's probably a bit more famous I'm thinking one that might be on the list and if he is he might be high But it's also a risky one as it starts with this doesn't start with h such with an m It ends with an m as well And he's a greek. No No, he's not a greek I mean, it's okay. You can't win so, you know Stop it. No, no, no, no. This is the last guess apparently Okay, I'm gonna I might do one that I'm just curious about because this is kind of a remat too Well, what's yours then? And thomas faquinas. I was thinking my emotu musashi good one My emotu musashi i'm curious about as well. Definitely that's a fair choice as well, but I think rags is yeah, I think yeah, I think a quinas and I got a I got a pope on my list too and But then again constant wasn't but I feel like thomas a quinas, you know every time Every time catholics hear that name. You could just hear the cum hitting the floor So you might as well chuck that one out there Uh, wait dev's not here, right? So rags has to lock in I guess Yeah, let's lock in but I'm I'm just curious thomas a quinas very well Locking in thomas a quinas. He is on the list. Nice. However, I consider this good news still, but he's 98 Interesting two points, but you evaded the 30-point penalty. That's the good part of that, right? Is that the end of this round then? Yes, now we will show move into the next though. It would be preferable if dev were here Just to make you know, you know while while we're waiting for him. Here's some uh, since it doesn't matter anyway I was thinking cyrus cyrus the great. Oh careful given that we will return to this form of play and round later Okay, yeah, keep your uh, keep your flames And your grumbos Don't be ruined in that. All right I was trying to say earlier that like you definitely made the right call by not giving us any prep on this Like I feel like everyone would have spent days going throughout the reason You know, it's for the best in a way because uh, you could trick yourselves into this this thing you learn it as you go I think whatever this list is Like I said, I am still shocked that George Washington and Abraham Lincoln on this way There's a few really strong picks that they did and a few really strong picks that we did that were just like, okay What are we doing here? Like how is this not on the list? So it's strange Is uh, is john and dev We come come back anytime. I assume john is actually here. I don't know even it's just All right, well, I guess we just got a White so that's it says in the description eight rounds. There are eight rounds Sorry, some of this is the the one we just did is the longest round at least in theory Uh, because I've never done this before as you may have noticed So We go, I guess I'll just I'll just re-explain it when they get here, right? So team round two is gonna be that uh, I'll choose two people one from each team And you could go head to no wait head heads round three actually round two Is the each of the teams. Yeah, we can do this even if they're not here for now. It'll work Uh, each team is provided a name that is on the list and you've got to guess where it is within 10 places Oh You're gonna be provided a name your team and you have to guess where it is on the list And if you get it right within 10 places you get 50 points If you're wrong the other team gets 50 points out of the names that are left or out of the names that are here Uh I don't want to dignify that with a response When you missed the first part, okay, go ahead. So yeah, just just because john seems to be back So just one more time is uh In turns the teams will be provided a name still problem Uh, and you got to guess where it is on the rankings within 10 places Um, and then you get 50 points if you are incorrect the enemy team gets 50 points So, um I think it was grumbos turn as fleam had given their last gas. So grumbo team grumbo um Uh Some of these I don't even have to pronounce So This is this is a clever way for me to knock out some of the ones that I feel like you were never going to guess Anyway, but what do I know? Maybe you would have guessed these but um, I'm gonna go with choosing first, um Elizabeth the first of england she is on the list, but where is she on the list? Um, oh, I think she isn't quite thoroughly middle of the pack like lower middle I think she's in the middle of the pack. Um, well And looking at this, uh, the problem is it's tough because she could be in any one of those Individually but it feels like playing the odds, right? Yeah, if we guessed from like 41 to 50 for instance That gives us one two three four five six chances of getting it right Um, we've got six chances of getting it right. Oh wait. No, we got seven if we go from uh No, sorry, uh, we got seven chances if we are It's either seven or six chances depending on we go with uh, 41 to 50 or 51 to 60. I'm yeah, I'm ballparking Somewhere around in the 60s to 70s. Oh, I'm back in the stick. Hello there seven days Uh, if we can take just a second to get dev caught up. So we're on round two. I was listening. I I got wireless headphones and what's going on We're basically choosing you're gonna tell us names. We're gonna choose where they're on the list, right? Correct I think I agree with you. They are that she would be on the lower Do we want to go for uh, the 60 like the 60s? I think so 68 Well, we don't have to oh, we got to get oh, right. We got to guess And we have to be within 10, right? Yes 67 maybe Wait, uh How much leeway does that give us upwards? So that gives us five up. So we don't cross over without, uh, Johannes, uh Gutenberg Right Okay. Yeah, that that's wait. Hold on. Yes. I think so, uh, do we want to go for 67 then? I'm gonna try 67. Yeah Okay. Yep. 67 being locked in and you are Incorrect. She is at 89 Wow Like I said, the the rules for this one in case it says 50 points to team fleam for that one Okay. All right team fleam your name is Alfred Nobel Hello on my list. He is on the list. But where is he? Let's see. Um I'm thinking that So we have to be within 10 of our guess, right? Within 10? Yeah, so like if you guess 65, I'll let you go up to and below so 55 to 75 Wait, what? You have to be within 10 and So it's 10 on either side of your number either direction. Yeah. Oh, okay I didn't realize that. I thought it was five on the other side. It was a rank 10 like outward Okay, he was in 10. Um I'm thinking for Nobel Wait, hang on. Did Theo, did you think it was five up and down rather than 10? If you have to be within 10 or the reason I'm asking is if Theo thought that Then I feel like you guys should have the restriction of five up and down Well, I'm I'm saying that's what I I just want to make sure the team leader. Did you think hello, Theo? Is he there? I assume if you have to be within 10 then Well, I can understand the confusion. That's all so if they thought that's what they were dealing with Then I'll put the same restriction on you guys for just one round For just one round. Um, yeah, and then I'll I'll take it off both of you Since springy did let's just assume that that the other two and we'll at least keep that restriction I don't know. I explained my reasoning and Theo seems to agree. I you know what I mean? Like I counted It's fine. It's fine either way. So uh rags dev and uh brooks you guys are dealing with five up and five down Just for this round Be within five. Okay Um for this one the Nobel prize guy, right? Yeah, you got to take this one rags Well, I like to think of him as the inventor of dynamite, but yeah, he also has the prize um, let's see I'm thinking he's in the I'm thinking he's in the 70 80 range I don't think he's as Yeah, I don't think he's as high on this list you think But I just think what's now But I'm thinking statistically we have to be within five now and not 10 So who can you compare him on the list to? Like to narrow it down. Well, there is an element of playing the odds as well aiming for those black boxes too Um, yeah, so for instance if we guessed Like 86 Or 87 then that would cover 82 all the way down to what 92 So that would be a pretty big chunk there and I don't think it's unreasonable that he'd be there But okay, let's do it. That's my thinking. What number are you locking in dev? Wait, what number was it rags? Um, we're gonna go with 87 87 87 locked in and you are correct because he sits at 91 Nice, not bad Alfred Nobel even with the restricted one nice. Good job That's actually pretty good. Uh, so that means you get 50 points. Not bad. No, hooray Give me a second while I add those. That's pretty simple And I think theo just said he wasn't aware it's 10. So this is the fairest way to do it We're all good We get double points. Yeah, you're back to a gap of 10 as in if you choose 65 you get down to 55 and up to 75 Um 10 down 10 up 10. It's it they can get confusing, but hopefully you follow. Yeah, okay. I got you All right, so I'm gonna I'm gonna give good ol team grumboa name name Let's go with Gosh, there's such great choices here Um, because remember these are guaranteed to be on the list um Why not? Mustafa kebal attic tick He's on there. I've heard of out of Turk, but I wouldn't guess Hmm I mean, I feel like that's not a high one Yeah, it's kind of this one has to be low as hell. Um, well, I mean the thing is is that if we choose 90 Then that gives us all the way down to 100. Yeah to 80, right? So I think 90 is a really Strong choice. Wait, that's how the fuck is at a Turk on this list and not washington. Hey, you know Yeah, I think 90 it has to be there's no way he's that high Are we locking in 90? Yeah You are Incorrect. He sits at 63 You're joking another Two places behind Sure, man Well, I mean, you know, I think it makes sense, doesn't it? No Yeah, this is our comeback round. Well, no, we always fumbled the bag at the start of the yeah Yeah At a Turk, he is, you know deceptively important He was the first guy to really conceptualize the idea of a secular islamic state But like he shouldn't be on the Queen Victoria is not on the list and elizabeth the first is at 89 so At george washington isn't on it the guy who created the first president of america. Yeah I don't understand the logic, but I suppose that it's an exactly logic that's to be understood Team flame Your name is adam smith the economist Adam smith is on the list, but george washington, okay I'm thinking I'm thinking I'm thinking we go 90 so that we can cover all the way So you got another 50 points to you? All right, you get you get that's what I'd guess because I've never heard of adam smith I have no idea Okay, this is like a contemporary of john lock All right, I've heard of him. Yeah, that clears it up. Yeah They're about as as important. I think john lock and adam smith So do you think the number is more important than george washington? I'm still bitter about that I think you know 90 sounds good 90 sounds good for the number pick that should be safe. Yeah, I mean, I think that's what we have All right, I think we have 50 points. Yeah, are we locking in 90? All right adam smith is Actually at 27 What? Hey, are you shitting my balls? 27 Negative 50 points. There he goes. Well. No, no negative that you get 50 points for me for that. Oh, yeah, that's right We get 50 easy question mark. I don't know Oh, wait, oh, so he's above Shakespeare, he's above stalin. He's above michael angelo. He's above shakes darwin This guy's above darwin like it just like I'm shocked darwin was that Then again based on the nature of how they compile but maybe it makes a lot of sense because he probably would have been referenced a lot Yeah Oh, that might be it. Yeah Just like how do we even account for that? He was basically the founder of economics. So maybe no, I mean he's an important figure But again, I'm surprised that like that a lot of these people we've guessed important figures one on the list I'm wondering if there's any way to account for that in the in the guessing process the way that Well, we'll have to think about that then going forward especially with that one that makes me really think that gives me well team grumbot Uh, your name is and i'm probably saying this wrong bales of millitus miletus Um, I don't know who that is. It's a good thing that you picked ones you can't pronounce. Yep All right, I explained my logic with this. I'm trying to I'm trying to nuke some of the distant ones. Okay. Yeah, we've got a pre-socratic philosopher I mean, do we do we want to go for 90 again or do you think he's behind than that? Fuck's sake, man Uh, I think he would be a bit What do you know? Uh, well, I mean if you wanted to go for 85, right that would Fuck, uh, yeah, let's shift up a bit to Hmm, um try 83 83, okay Yeah All right, we're locking in 83 Sure Incorrect. He sits at 96 Of course. Yeah, there it is Which means team flea can get 50 points Congratulations Do you like the winner? I'll take it anywhere we get it All right. Now it's time to give team flea my name, but which that is the question Which which which? I'm gonna give you a philosopher too avicenna avicenna Avicenna I'm gonna go with that Spell it out a v i c e n n a I think I've heard of this guy. I see I have not heard of him. Do you want to go with? Do you want to go with 85? Say what they were again a philosopher you said Philosopher, yes Um, just looking at where the other philosophers have ranked you think we should put them pretty high like no Well, I've heard of the philosophers at a ranked high. I've never heard of like myth Which is like, yeah, I know but even even with that being said I feel like Like of course the Aristotle's plateaus, you know, I think there is a reasonable link between how famous they are and how much we've heard of them In fact, it's actually kind of like that's what famous means really, but I think that Yeah, if it's someone that I just haven't even heard of I have a tendency to rank it lower than ones I've heard of But who knows? I mean we we there's you know, the list continues to surprise and shock With that with that thought process in mind, who do you think would be the number 40 right there? Who would I think would be the number 40? Well, I'm not gonna tell you Oh, no, no, no, just like Um, just considering where philosophers would rank I I'm still sticking with my 85 85 I think that gives us a really chunky range I think the range is good. I'm just maybe I'm overthinking it basing it on the other philosophers But just to see I think yeah 85 sounds good. Are we locking in 85? Let's go with that. All righty. That is incorrect aviciness. It's at 56 Providing team grumble another 50 points. All right. There's uh, two more turns with these as in one for two 14, you know, it's fine. I'm just gonna tell you when it's over What? Around end when I say all right So good old team grumble Where is the politician? louis the 14th of france Oh That's an interesting one Geez, what do you want me to do with that? Which we're because I've got both the louis on my list the both the famous louis Um, uh, is he do we think that he's more like in the middle? Yeah, I think he'd be in sort of the midsection. That's my thinking as well. Um Hmm, I'm just looking at this uh list here I I'm just the problem is like he could fall into any one of those uh gaps, you know between 20 and 40, but at the same time Hmm. He's probably he's probably mid right like he's probably You think I Falling in mid If we guess 57, I think that gives us a decent amount of exposure. Yeah, I think 57 or 58 I I would trend lower, but uh, okay. Do we want to try 58? um Now 57 safer because of okay, it's already been revealed 57. Okay. You wish to lock in 57 thea say we're wrong do it Yeah, all right fine. You're wrong. He's 30th That high 50 points to team fleam All right Uh team fleam you've got to find the philosopher Jean Jacques Rousseau Rousseau Uh Let's see. I've probably put Rousseau I think we should guess I think he'll be in the middle. Yeah, I think he's kind of middle-ish. I think he's in the Based on what we see with the other philosophers. They've been pretty high like mids here Yeah, but Rousseau is a name that I yeah, I like I yeah Rousseau was basically all of his writing was in response to lock So lock's probably on the list somewhere and lock was contemporary with smith They're all probably maybe like a little bit lower than smith, I'd guess Where was smith again? Was it 30? 27 Should we try to cut now? Here's the thing though. There's only look at Look at how much space is left to So we because he he's gonna be in the black area So we need to Probably maybe you know factor that into our guess The largest black area is what 60s and 70s right now. I think uh So but but I do think he'll be decently I do you think we should go If we vote Like if we can cover from 59 at least as our as our top maybe I think that seems fair That'll bring us down to let's see So if we guess if we guess 69 Then that'll give us a big range between you know 59 and um Uh, let's see to the 79. Yeah, so I think we should go there. Let's do it 69. Yeah, let's do that one 69 we locking in 69 That sounds okay. Yeah, I think that's safe. I think that seems safe Well, I'm afraid you were incorrect and it's funny as well because you noted at the beginning the middle He's right in the middle. He is right in the middle. He's number 50 God damn it. He's literally who's my pick God damn you both I just said it the philosophers have been like more towards the middle one. Like that's the first point. We're making It's hard to get they did a statistical guess to go by the black spaces Yeah, we had like 15 potentials and if in order to hit 50 We would have had to have lost on a big chunk of potentials because so much in that zone No, my my literal guess was 50. That's why I yelled out, but next one. It's all right Um, okay. Well, there's one more each. So We'll start with a good old grumble, of course Um, how about we go with david the politician? Oh wait, I'm reading the graph wrong Oh, the numbers are on the left. That's what fucked me up. Okay. Never mind David Yes, the number is on the left. Not the right Just david I'm pretty sure yeah, this is a statue It is real, uh, it would be king david, I guess. Yeah, king david Is david from down the street? I just I prefer saying david. Can you guess with david? I've gotta be uh, gotta be higher, right I want to say so but Let's see if we can inform this by any other placements Uh, the thing is where did paul the apostle ended up in 60? Is that? I'm just looking at the start I think he has to go below paul um Yeah, I guess But at the same time, I'm not so sure my track record does not speak positively of my rationales for these so, you know Everyone is like stressed out from the earlier picks Oh, this game does do that I don't know. I'm wondering if we want to go for like the middle or higher than that, you know I just don't see him being a that widely referenced figure Um It would be like church scholarship and things like that which which ads are which does yeah But if we go by that same logic, then surely paul should be higher, right? Yeah, and yeah Yeah Uh Something i'm wondering is maybe if because we guessed 43 that would give us at maximum That would put him between michael angelo and thomas eddison at maximum Does that follow does that you know does that you go to mean like does that make sense in the place that he could be? My thinking is maybe it makes some degree of sense. Yeah, um, I guess it's reasonably high Yeah There's a question of playing the odds almost, you know, whereas because for instance, we guess like I guess we don't have to guess 33. But like, you know, if we guess because we guess Uh, if we guess 28 at home, that would give us up to Wait, no, that would only get us up to if it's 10 above and 10 below that would get us up to 18 and As low as 38 that only gives us four slot the five five slots. Yeah But i'm leaning towards the 60 range because of the higher possible places that it could be I But I don't I'm willing to I'm willing to go with you on this one because like I said my track record is uh, really fucking good actually Uh, or you know what? Why don't we why don't we say? Why don't we say more? I help me out here if I said 28 that would give me up to 18, right? 18 to 38 Yeah, 18 to 38 with an 18 to 38 Uh, do we want to try do we want to try that? We we'd be guessing really low. Yeah, let's go. Why not? Yes, I am 28 locking in 28 Yeah, very well incorrect. He sits at 81 Okay, right, right Team blim Are you ready for your name? I'm ready for my name. I'm so excited to see my name and what it is. All right, I think Well, we got we got to get some real safe picks here because this is an opportunity for us to come back on picks if they The last one we did was safe, but no, no, I'm saying continue to keep them safe and let them just like Best to guess the bad the bad ones are like sabotage. Yeah, you guys guess the bad ones and we'll guess the good ones Keep doing that That's a good idea. I like that. I like this I like that Well, again, you ignored me on the last one. Let's respect the philosophy. Your name is composer Friedrich Frederick Chopin. I think that's how it goes, right? Yeah Oh chopping chopping chopping good old chopping good old chopping good old chopping boy. He made it to the list. Okay um Because I got some Yeah, I know I got well, let's see. Um, I have no clue who this guy is Really? Oh, yeah, you've heard of him. Yeah, it's like all these famous composer guys. You've heard their stuff. He just don't know it's them Yeah, but where would he be? Ah, let's see if this guy's on the list and Wagner isn't I'm gonna be mad again Just to clarify again Here's our romantic composers. They're gonna be somewhere around Yeah, where the rest of the composers on the list you think you'd be comparable to them Focus on the round at hand Where I still feel like I feel like with this one we play it safe get that 59 to 79 range, but well actually nine well 69 is not bad here if we do 69 that brings us up to the meme number But well, no, we don't want to do that because 59 60 and 61 are taken so if we're gonna go in that range then we need to hit at least uh 52 No, because there's no point in us guessing that because the top three would be taken anyway So if you want to do 52 because I I don't feel like he'll be higher Like do you feel that's just a safe pick or do you feel that's where he'll be? I wouldn't guess it if I didn't think he'd be there Yeah, I know I know that I'm comparing to the other options that we have because I'm just thinking like I'm always going to guess where I think he's going to be Do you think it's like where that low or do you think that's just going to be the safest pick is what I was asking Because I'm saying compared to the other composers. They're all right. So it's the affirmative to both of those questions I'm going to pick. I think he's going to be 69 it's like the snitch and harry potter if you guess it you automatically I mean 69 is not bad, but since 60 uh 59 60 and 61 are taken. It doesn't make sense to pick 69 We want to go lower. I will say 69 is someone you will know at least I'm pretty sure you'll know Oh, you know him really well after Oh, no, I don't think so 50 I'm I think 52 that gives us a broad swath and I feel like so that's where chopping would be um Though he is a pretty famous composer But I still I have I have no reference. So I'll trust my other guess. Yeah, I know that this My other guess would be to cover that big middle area between 43 and 58 But it's just whether or not. I think he's slightly higher or lower and both of them seem like they would make sense to me So if if you I'm going to flip a coin whether we're going to go in high or low Heads as high tails as low All right, I got heads. So we'll go high. So that means we'll go to 53 That'll bring us between 43 um And 63 you are locking in 53 Locker the coin has been flipped Very well. I'm still team leader here rags. I came back. You gave him the power this turn. You gave him Wait, did I say something? Well, I just know I was just gonna overrule for 69 for the memes Well, no, we don't want to do we don't want to do 69. Wait, wait dev team leader. Oh, we are we overruling for the memes Well, we'll do what rags suggested. What was your number again rags? I forgot it already Uh, 53 53 locking in. Yeah Yep. All right. Yeah, I let's let's do it isn't 53 Occupied by augustus. That's fine. Yeah. Yeah, it's just a center in it. Um, all right I feel bad to say this rags. You were one off. Had you gone for the memes? You would have gotten him. He was 64 Interesting Well, that was that was the other coin flip doing yeah, it said I mean it makes sense So I flipped a coin between those two 50 points for all grumbos Uh Good job. Also, I kind of I kind of feel like uh, I kind of feel like bursting the bubble of of any virgins Who might be watching People don't actually do 69s in real life. They're too much hassle. Sorry guys too much hassle Yeah What are you normally on the bottom or at top? Either way to be honest Hassle. All right. All right. So one more round of this one because I enjoy it I'm gonna throw one more. So grumba will be first and they're they'll add will be a uh a conqueror called Not that one easily uh Timur or tamer lane It's not the conqueror I was thinking it'd be uh, I'm not that familiar with him But maybe you guys are either way you got to figure out where he would be Do you want to guess like that? Like 70 to 90 Let's look Yeah, I can't imagine him scoring highly 80 seems reasonable. Um, is it worth adjusting up slightly? Uh, we could do that like 75. So we've guessed 75 before What? No chat. I wasn't thinking of hitler not back We already did that guy. We already got what watch me get just above him again. Uh, it's let's go 75 Yeah, yeah, are we locking in 75? Cool. Mm-hmm. So, uh, he was 86. Yeah every time I knew it 50 points for team fleam though not bad Uh We're gonna say just just All right All right What's our incredibly famous person that we all recognize? That's the thing. I'm actually now to make it a quote unquote fair I'm trying to find the least recognizable name that's left on this I don't know. I feel like least recognizable just throws it further to the back right like towards the end That's the thing though. Not necessarily. Some of these have been, uh, shocking, you know, you just never quite know what mysteries will be unraveled um Let's go with Yeah, why not the historian Herodotus That's on my list. That was the other Greek. I was gonna say we should do Oh, it's gone now rags Well, he's also lost in rogue legacy. Um, let me see Oh, wait. No chat brings a good point dev. Are you referring to 69 on your sides or one on top of the other? Yeah, be specific Um I gotta be honest I don't think I've ever seen anyone do the on the sides one except for for yeah It's it's it's a much lesser done thing But I was wondering if that's maybe how you were familiar with it And so that's why you thought it was a hassle, but I don't know. Um, so back to Herodotus I'm thinking I'm thinking Herodotus is going to be decently highly Uh, so I'd like to cover the area between 39 and 59 I think that's the way to go. I think he's going to be decently high If he is high, that's a good safe zone to pick for Yeah, but here's the thing if he's not high, that's not a safe thing to pick Well, you're confident you're confident that he is though. That's what you're gambling on, right? I am I am Confident is such a strong word I am a scary word I would not be surprised No matter what happened But I feel in my my little doggy bones That that I that that he's going to be decently highly because Herodotus is a decently well known, you know, Greek name So I I wonder if I've heard of him before because I feel like I've got zero reference for that one Really interesting really, um, I don't know why It's fair enough, uh So if we knock out 39, uh at the top of our pick So do you want to go with a pick in 49? Cover is a decent amount below it too Sounds good What are we locking in dev? I'll also chat adults don't do 49s either What's a 49? You'll learn what that one your older eggs. Let's lock in 49 49 die tomorrow Um, that's true, but I just want to let you know, uh, you managed to do the opposite of the horrible luck It's 58. So you just got him Hooray Congratulations. That's another decent finally catching up. Yeah That's that's the end of this round, right? That is the end of this round, which was quite I want to know what a 49 is I did all we did was just give them lots of point They did catch up a little yeah, that's true All right, native american rituals and tradition 49 You're right Oh, I see I see I need everyone to be listening for you. He's busy. I am less. I'm listening I just figured out what a 49 was Okay, I'm going to pick two individuals one from each team Then I'm going to say a name And ask basically whether they're on the list Yes, or no and you can shout Martha in order to be first and answer first And if you are correct, you get 50 points if you're incorrect The enemy team get 50 points Wait shout Martha. Yeah, I mean it works. Why did you say that name? Martha is the equivalent of ding I guess Yes, it's a ding so, uh We'll start with good ol, uh team leaders. I guess this will be between dev and theo now just to be clear I'm going to say a name And then you'll have to ding in with Martha and tell me whether or not that is on the list Can't can't we just say yes? No, if it's no, we're not going to say so can't we just say yes, if I hear so I I needed to be clean So you got to say Martha first Because if you shout yes and no's at the same time, then I'm going to get confused If I hear Martha's I'm going to be looking for them green rings. See I'm just making sure so I don't have to concentrate Whatever weird you may have said so Are you uh, are you ready? Sure, I guess All right, the name I shall provide you wonderful to is Stephen King All right, Theo, what do we got? No, I'm saying he's not on the list That would be Correct. He is not on the list I mean, surely. Well, you all floated earlier in discussion, but yes, he did not make it to the list Remind me. Napoleon's not on this list, is he? Uh Yeah, yeah, he's 12. Yeah, I would I think he was a bit older than that Stephen King is on my like Low list. I've got my decent list and my low list Stephen King's on the low list So I'm not surprised that he's not there He really rules out a lot of people All right Abraham Lincoln, it's like, you know who's more famous than that Stephen King Next up he was a king Rags and Fringy Yo, here we go. The name is James Cook Martha Rags, is he on the list? Yeah. Yes. You believe he is. All right. I believe you are Incorrect Really James Cook is not on the list Wow, thanks for the 50 points, but that's insane. James Cook isn't on the list Captain Cook is on the list. Nope. Well, at least not according to me Obviously there's room for me to have fucked it up That's that's fascinating. Captain Cook is not on the list all the time. All righty He was he was first fleet tour to good old Australia Next up we'll have uh, john versus brooks Your name to decide whether they are on the list is Carl Linnaeus Martha Oh brooks got her first is he on the list? Carl? No That is incorrect. He is he's number 95 Definitely Oh really that low. Yeah, he's quite he's quite down there, but uh, he was interesting I thought he'd be higher if it was me. I would have worth a yes immediately, but Alrighty So that the next next set we'll put uh good old We'll go dev versus uh, fringy All right, you guys ready you guys ready? Yeah All right Lance Armstrong Martha All right dev is he on the list? No, he's no You're correct. He's not on the list Hey, man, I give the power of Martha to both of you For some reason I didn't say Martha of course he's not on the list all right so Next we'll go I guess The reverse of that in a way so it'll be Theo versus rags The reverse of that would be if we say Martha the other person has to answer No, no, no same rules. Don't worry. Okay. All right. Okay. All right. You guys ready? You guys ready? Here we go. Here we go. Here we go So ready Jimmy Carter Martha I think Theo got that first. Yeah, I got it. Oh Theo. He's not on the list. I see you are incorrect What? Yeah, yeah Wait a minute. What? Definitely. We're gonna have words list, right? So Sorry He is at 93 politician president Jimmy Carter Why what are you doing there? You're telling me that George Washington and Abraham Lincoln and sun suit. Don't forget him. Jimmy, but jimmy the other american president It's impossible bullfucking shit That's wild. I thought yeah, because I was like see when I have both Weasley little liar, dude That That's a piss take. Okay. I'm gonna so so Ronald Reagan. It's got a few of these clothes there, right? Dude, what's this written? Jimmy Carter Jimmy Carter of all people That means yeah, that means a few other people are certain. We find out that Gerald Ford is on the list James Garfield the dark horse I'm not off Uh, all right, until we start getting to the ones with faces on our money. Oh, we might really have some bangers there Rags every time a transaction takes place. It counts for whoever is on the money rags and john Here we go. Wait, did I give I think I gave points. Yeah, okay No, I know I'm gonna get to all of you. There's a there's a set at least I'll desperately try to make sure I hit the full set Oh rags and john, here's your name. Here it comes Lewis Carroll Martha. All right rags is Lewis Carroll list He's not on the list. He's definitely not Rags Rags said no, did he I couldn't like I'm sorry. Okay. I have not I have not answered I thought you did that sir more than that. Wow for a gas light Martha quickly Didn't he just say hold on. He said Martha. That's it Uh, all I said was Martha Rags is playing careful. Yeah, it was just all right rags Lewis Carroll on the list or not Yes You're going with yes, I can tell you Lewis Carroll is not on the list. God damn it. Yay Technically John really got that nice work That is insane It's bait. I might as well just be flipping coins at this point. I literally should be flipping coins Um Fuck I really should have written down who'd gone so that I could remember it better This is a shambles and then rags and john. Well, I don't think I've gone against uh, I've been going against brooks. All right bringing in brooks. Let's go Yes, ready for this. I'm going to throw a crazy one at you expecting our names to be on the list Brooks Briggs is Thomas Jefferson on the list Martha I think that was for you first Yes, what have you you're saying? Yes. All right. You sure you want to walk that in. Okay fine. Well, yes, you would be correct God, I think of any president It would be on the list. It would be Jefferson. Yeah, you reckon it would be Jefferson even I mean, he would be really hard on that list as well Yes, I think thomas jefferson would be Jefferson did a lot of shit Jefferson's 51 Carter is 93 Washington doesn't make the cut I gotta say there's a lot of ones on this list where it's like really and then a lot of ones that were More so it was a lot of people who weren't on the list. It's like really jimmy carter Jimmy Carter. Yeah, that's gotta be the shocker of the whole list jimmy carter. What are you doing? Come on All right, um, I'll take those points. Yeah, thank you very much. Have we had dab and fring you haven't been done yet, right? No, we have You have or haven't the second one that I did. Oh all right Who hasn't gone against each other if you can remember I haven't gone with john. I think All right dab and john we could do that. Let's let's do it right now. You guys ready? I was corrected on the rules by chat. So I know what i'm doing now. Sorry I Okay, dev john your name is Muhammad Ali Dev what you got? No, he's not there. He's not on the list. You're saying Yep, okay. Uh, you are wrong. He's 57. Come on dev. You don't know boxing I don't know how famous Muhammad Ali is. He's that was the locket Dude, I'm disappointed in that one I'm disappointed Muhammad Ali is world famous He is world famous. He's yeah, he's just one of the most famous athletes of all time We've guessed so many world famous people that haven't been on the list. I was like, yes Muhammad Ali is but Muhammad Ali is very famous He transcends boxing like that's an easy one. I I can't believe I did yeah Even people who don't follow boxing, which is easy for everyone knows that category Uh, is there any pairing I haven't done though. I'm just trying to I haven't faced Theo yet. Yeah. Oh brooks and thiew. All right. Yeah, we can do that. Bring it on All right, the name you guys have been provided is Is this blaze Pascal Yep, let's say that's the one The famous wager. Ah, yes Martha Theo go ahead No You are incorrect. He is 67 I'm just like, let me keep my mouth shut. Wow. He's he's above Aquinas and paul Really that's that's interesting and above Machiavelli. I should have answered. Yes No, no, it makes sense. It makes sense. Above Jimmy Carter. Above Jimmy Carter. I mean to make some love less since you haven't still I should have answered yes All right round four The teams in turn will be provided three names One of which will be on the list and they have to figure out which of the three is If they get it right 50 points if they get it wrong The two remaining choices will be provided to the other team and they can have a chance at winning that 50 That will make sense Yes, that does make sense. All right, we can start with team grumbo And your selection will have this is going to be a little bit difficult because I got to get these ready ahead of time um So You got George Orwell Mary mother of joseph And taylor swift Jesus christ Bro So I'll uh, well if you want to write it if you want to write it out. So George Orwell Mary taylor swift One of these on the list. Yes. Um, man, I feel like I feel like it's mary, right? Um, I would say that Yeah, that seems like I was I was thinking of that when we were initially doing the uh the rounds I feel like it's got to be mary. It's mary or I think Orwell should no would Orwell make it on Oh, sorry mother of jesus. I'm retarded Mary Yeah, it's probably just yeah, go to me. It's got to be mary I'm wondering. Yeah, no It's got to be mary. Surely. Yeah. Yeah. I We have other guys I think that's what it is You're going for mary. Yeah I can tell you you are indeed correct. Good job. Yay. Yeah, why does she place out of curiosity? Because I think she's got to be really high mary places at 33 Yeah, that makes sense. I was thinking about her as one of the possibilities for the list, but hey, yeah All right, 50 points. Yay. 50 points indeed. Oh, no, the Orwell's not on there. I would have guessed it Yeah, I actually that's why I put that name there. I was like, I figured he would do it Orwell is uh Orwell's on the list Yeah, yeah, I should definitely remember we should definitely remember the ones that get ruled out by this round Orwell was a possibility for sure. Um, but then again if jimmy kata is on the list, maybe tell us Exactly You should really it's it's not a matter of like Jimmy kata or anything It's just jimmy kata a one-term president from the 70s that if you asked a lot of people now They'd probably be like, I don't know who that is Rags you freak me out. Did you say that he was on the list? What are you saying something? I said, no, George Orwell was on mine. Oh, right. Okay. Thank fuck for saying those two things I was like, did I get it wrong? Add you're looking at the list? Like why are you looking at it? But okay, we're good. We're good. Okay. We're good. All good. Okay. So let us construct another One wonderful question. Give me one sec. This will be for team fleam Um, all right, so your three uh, jane austin, steven spielberg, john lock I mean If if rousseau is on the list and if and if smith is on the list lock has to be on the list There's no fucking way Dude spielberg made ready player one I Will I will eat my nintendo switch if john lock isn't on this Are you locking in wait, I haven't even heard from rags yet rags. What do you think? John lock is who I would go for for being on the list Yeah, I think so too. Let's do it. John lock. John lock. You are correct Oh Okay, so that means that steven spielberg and uh, who was the other one jane so jane austin's not in the list No, which you know, if that makes sense it does. Yeah, I mean, of course it was john lock Yeah, no nintendo switch eating for you deb Uh I guess we're going back to team grumbo Uh, just give me one second to find Something that maybe can make it a little more difficult, you know Uh, that should work out All right Hey moller, yes, you got to make one of the answers movie bob Well, he's probably our mystery number nine, right? No, good night Between Beethoven and alexander the great team grumbo. Are you ready for your three names? Mm-hmm Margaret thatcher mock twain jr. Tolkien Oh, uh The fact again that jimmy carter is on this list means that thatch has got a real chance. Yeah Who cannot so who was that again? Margaret thatcher mock twain tolkin mock twain jesus. Uh, I mean, I feel like of the three I feel like it'd be mock twain Yeah, possibly that's kind of my thinking. Um would be would be twain uh He he he's the fact that he's so Because like a lot of his books, you know, like huckleberry fin right? That's just one of those things that's kind of like a staple I mean, I'm of course not downplaying lord of the rings and its significance It's just that I feel like if it's gonna be anybody it would be he's small Embedded in the literary space. So it's always such a huge. Yeah. I yeah Plus his sister shinaya Was yeah, very famous. Yes, it's gotta be mock twain. Yeah, I I think we can I'm willing to discount thatcher Um, yeah, I basically am I'm I'm just gonna leave jimmy carter like in terms of him being on the list out of my rationale It blows me away that link is not on here, but jimmy carter is I don't understand that Um, but yeah, I'm I'm feeling twain. Yeah, you're going locking in with mock twain. All right I can tell you you are indeed wrong Mark twain is not on the list Team fleam you have the chance here to guess between Margaret Thatcher and jr. Tolkien Uh Fuck I mean I'm now very satisfied with this this election, but she's really famous. Um Yeah, but regs, right? You have to remember regs the rings of power. Yes, that's true rings of power. Yes, um God dang this is basically a coin toss for me You know what? I I think I'm leaning towards thatcher Yeah, I'm I'm leaning towards thatcher being the one because of the political angle And I mean obviously jr. Tolkien is very well known But would that mean anything on this list? I think that thatcher would be the one that would fit this list more Because you know the political stuff the history element. Um, I think it's thatcher. I think we're feeling it's going to be token I'm I'm thinking thatcher Are we locking in thatcher? To be fair, we do also have to consider uh lord of ringgall. Yeah Another influential work That game this weird gut feeling is going to be token, but your logic is sound. So yeah, I think it's thatcher too All right thatcher's locked in and you are Incorrect jr. Tolkien ranked at number 80 Well I mean, I'm okay with him being on the list I I guess now with the thinking like all three of them could be on the list. I guess I'm just surprised at mark twain didn't uh Now that he's been flooded. I guess Jimmy Carter's on the list. Jimmy Carter's unless a not market thatcher I guess not Like specific study as compared to twain. So I think I think there's a fair argument for all three of them on us. Yeah That was a really difficult one. Okay. All right team flame might win for references It is still it is now even though that was technically you doing a turn it is now your turn. So Your three names are uh, Arnold Schwarzenegger and Tony van livenhoek I guess that's correct And elizabeth the second It'll be the guy you couldn't pronounce either him or No, it'll be the guy you couldn't pronounce I'm guessing the second one. Yeah, you wish to lock in and Lay when hook would be my guess as well because of the Because you know mauler. There's there's no way you just yank that name out of thin air It's it's on. I'm impartial. I say nothing Little okay. That's what it is. I'm locking it in Yeah, are you sure are you sure you could lock in anything are you sure now? I could lock in anything and I'm locking in this all right the third one again It was Arnold Schwarzenegger and Tony van livenhoek or elizabeth the second No, love for elizabeth. Nope. All right. Are you sure all about the lock now dev? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, you're wrong Wow Okay It's elizabeth. It's elizabeth the second. Yeah Which I was thinking that she would actually she might be yeah, elizabeth the second team grumbau Are you locking in elizabeth the second? If it's not elizabeth the second i'll eat dev's switch You are correct Elizabeth the second yeah on the list I thought so he's ranked at 45 So that's really interesting to me because I could see her getting on the list. Sure, but like victoria is not on the list So so mollard, where did you get that name? Both elizabeth's but not victoria. I use the power of google dev. I use the power of google Okay Okay, so i'm devising for grumbau if you just give me a second I shall get you one so challenging You'll never defeat it or something free up. Okay mob Talk amongst yourselves so I can set up two actually All righty boy. What a list. What do you guys think of the game talk about that list? I like the game a lot. Yeah, the game is certainly interesting Even even the occasional moments of absolutely I feel like I feel like i'm interacting with a black box, but i'm doing so in a way that's enjoyable I suppose I'm bad with this subject matter. My brain is poo and doesn't look so very good We are so fucking lucky. It's skewed towards historical people It ended up roughly adjacent to popular culture. I would have been the deadest of weight I've heard of taylor swift I don't think I can pick her out in a lineup though It's like all these famous singers like I know that name, but I don't know it's like is that one for as many instances Is there a bit of like wow really? I mean, obviously a lot of these make sense You could pick out on the list who you might be wondering why they're there perhaps Yeah, and it's just the omissions which I guess is interesting because now it makes me wonder like what What people are going to show up on this list that haven't been guessed yet where you go like oh, of course I mean, there's a few I've written down I've still got a list here of some figures that we might be able to get who might show up All right. I've constructed four more rounds. So that's what we'll do I guess and then we'll go to the next round Wait, who was the team I just did sorry Uh Would have just done um flame right that was flame. Okay, so it's back to grumbau then just make control Yes, all right team grumbau. I guess wrong. So we got your three names are Helen keller tom cruise and augustine of hippo Augustine. Yeah. Yeah Are you locking in augustine augustine? Yes Very well you are correct correct. Yeah. Yay Augustine was one of my guesses. I was saving so Not bad. Well, I don't know if it would surprise you or not. Uh, where do you expect him to be on the list? Um, reasonably high Uh, let's say 25. He's at 94 Really? Really? Just the low jimmy carter I guess if Aquinas is down there that means he's down there as well All right team fleam your three names Norm mcdonald jk rolling and nelson mandela Mandela right mandela You're locking in against mandela Mandela, are you sure? No, I'm not sure Now if tolkins on if I was sure I'd insist If if tolkins on there, I think jk rolling's on there mandela should be we all know norm should be on there Yeah, it should be norm, of course, but how could you not norm jk rolling is my second But I think nelson mandela is my my primary pick Well, last time I chose something I fucked up. So I'll go with your judgment rags Don't Yep, I'll blame both of you. I'll blame my subordinates. I mean, that's fine. Yeah, I think it makes the most sense So all righty then locking in nelson mandela Yeah, you are correct at 72 nelson mandela. I I'll take I'll take credit for this as well That you affirmed our decision. That's important. I mean as has been demonstrated some 20th century historical figures are making I'm really surprised that martin luther king Uh, didn't make that list but jimmy kata did the jimmy kata did. Yeah, that's true. All right team grumbau Your three names are stanley cubrick saladin and j robert arbenheimer Saladin Yeah, saladin Are we locking that in? Yes, I agree All righty, you are correct dimondo Let me just show you where he is which is 87 Yeah Yeah, I didn't I didn't think guys are quite the big deal Wait, where'd your score go? Oh, it's like falling off the screen. Wow. Look at you guys go It's falling off the screen because of how much how much power you have And uh team fleam the final round Your choices are Pewdiepie alfred hitchcock ready mercury Hitchcock Oh Tokens on here. I think beauty pie for the memes I think I'm leaning towards um, freddy mercury I really I am. I think that is music the musical stuff. I just think that it's going to be huge, but It's I Because a safe pick just for the What we have a mercury Um, those are the two that I've got it tossed up between in my brain I don't know. Um I just I mean I just feel like I'm just going to flip a coin on this one Yeah, go ahead Hitchcock his heads All right, I got tails so Rags that's a rock paper scissors it I just flipped a coin I just think it's just tokens there hitchhawk. Oh, hey rock every sick because we're on discord Yes, that's a good job. Okay. What did your coin toss come up with? tails What does that mean? I was ready mercury Pretty mercury. Let's do freddy mercury. Are you sure you want to log in the mercurator? Yes Well, sounds good to me. I can tell you you are correct Nice. Nice. Which is a good 50 points, which is pretty good too because he's at 99 Oh interesting. Yeah Oh, what a what a what a round that was a Okay, this is old. Yeah me so uh round five I I give names to these by the way, but I don't think they're relevant Uh, this one is the same as round one Except after a discussion and use your choice of a name if you get it wrong the enemy team gets 100 points What wait, hold on a second mauler mauler you just gave their team our points All right, hold on. Did I I watched the stream? No. No. No. What did it? Yeah? I mean the last thing I clicked on was fleam. No, we were 2050. Yeah, we were 2050 Maybe I'm just leave behind of the stream. Okay. I feel like chat would have flipped out if I'd done that. Yeah Wait, so can you explain the rule again? Sorry? The it's the same as round one except now if you get it wrong the enemy team get 100 points Okay The stakes have been raised Someone just said so the points mean nothing. Uh, this is the Why do you mean the points mean nothing? That's how you win the game I Was if you wanted to argue that all the points up to now meant nothing you've got 20 2050 1873 that's that's a pretty good numbers to have even at this point in the game. I'd say um Oh, man, now I'm just okay. I hear this. It's our turn first, right? It would be because we went last. Yeah, because you guys went last and we okay. Um Now that freddie mercury's on the list I don't know. I'm thinking that uh, there might be Maybe there's some singers that we should be considering and there's one that I'm thinking of Who I uh because if he's like it's pretty much on the list No, not Sinatra Yeah, there's an easy one that I think one Oh, there's there's two easy ones now that I'm thinking Maybe three No, two. I think that's too easy. There's I kind of want to um, well it depends so it's uh Because I guess without without giving away what those choices are Uh, what what sort of time era is the one that you're thinking of? Okay, so I'm I'm going in a I'm going way back into the past and they are not a musician Oh, okay, um I feel like this person has to be on that Well, yeah, because maybe we should maybe just ask Maybe we should move past singers for now and and think about okay. Um, who are you thinking? moses Oh You know if mary's on the list, I feel like moses has got a I said that I think you might have john, but I'm thinking you know what I think I agree I think I think moses moses will be on this list actually Do you might be minus here number nine? What I don't think moses was a real person Um If i'm not mistaken, that's somewhat disputed You definitely parted the sea. I'm just saying We know that but uh There's the the story of the pharaoh and the hebris in egypt. There's no archaeological evidence for any of that So I don't know if that has anything to do So I just let you know so I you know Um, but why would he be telling us that? I feel I feel like moses has a real shot of being on this list I don't know like he feels like if you think about you know figures that people know about like religious figures I feel like moses is really high up on that list at the risk of getting reverse gas lit by rags Yeah, I think i'm happy to I Yeah, I think i'm okay. Oh it sounds like we were locking him in so here we go moses on the list. He is number 18 Okay, which uh, it's just at this point is a guaranteed 100 points for doing that. So nice. Yes Dude, I really yeah, I that's that just seemed like a real likely choice All right, cool. Thank you team fleam. You're up All right, so remind me of this this rounds just so i'm clear and it's same as round one Yes Yes, I just had to go look it up. I just had to go look it up. No moses isn't real Well, what do you mean? I don't know that you could I looked it up moses doesn't exist. I don't know that you could determine that We could move on we could move on nothing in it exactly. We got the points get over it your turn I have um one that's probably possibly a safe pick, but probably not too high So what's the safe pick? Um, see now, I don't feel like it's safe just when you said that. Um, I don't know Famous magician just since Muhammad Ali is on there. I'm just on moses note. Okay, um, michael jackson. Is that possible? No, we have to we just have to get someone on the list Yes, if you get anybody regardless of just like round one how many times Okay, so Yeah, there's like there's there's two musicians. I could see being on the list. Maybe three Are we talking about musicians in particular? I had that was my pick Mercury's in the list. Yeah, I think it's there Yeah, I think michael jackson should be on this list if uh mercury's on there and Muhammad Ali I feel like we could do I mean, well, I mean shouldn't we pick someone like like Churchill or Maybe henry the eighth I go with hose over Um, I'm just going based on what's on here if mercury's on here. I could see michael jackson being on here Mercury is barely on here if if I say king Henry you just get all of them Oh, true. I don't think so. I think you'd have to specify. Oh, yeah, I'd ask which one. Yeah Uh We're out of that was my list here boop does on there that was on there that was on here. Um I mean, I I really am not keen at all on michael jackson. Michael jackson. No, not at all He's the king of pop I'm just going based on like well, Henry was eighth was the king of england I Pop England is kind of similar king michael jackson the king of pop I mean I mean, I think the ones that I listed made more sense and if we get into Um hyggle and can't and people like that. Um, you think mercury's more You say that so confidently Um, but like how I don't know how Henry the eighth might not be one. What about Hammurabi? Um Harambe I mean st. Peter john paul the second. I mean Talk it. I mean just just listen to all rags dump. It doesn't At this point it's just like we're just throwing stuff out there at this point. We filled out so much of the list It's all gonna be in that isn't it isn't it more important now than ever like you need actual guesses, don't you Well, I just I really don't think michael jackson is I think he's more famous if it's two to one that i'm out voted so Yeah, I actually think that michael jackson's a decent guess Just considering mercury's on the list. I think he's more famous than him. I do think he's more famous. Are we locking in michael jackson Let's lock in. I'm thinking harambe No, i'm feeling michael jackson. Yeah Whoa, it's zed team Dev, yeah, you got it. Yes. Yes. I said yes. Yes. We're good beautiful. That is 100 points to team grumbo No michael jackson. Yeah Okay, god dammit for the record. I think it makes way more sense for jackson to be on there than mercury, but whatever I guess I understand the logic. I don't get it And you think michael jackson has a chance. I just don't get it I think it's worthwhile since it's all it doesn't matter where they place And it's only about getting the points that we should just pick people who are like surefire bets I mentioned the long time before do we want to uh, I want to this one I want to take one that's probably got to be on there john calvin uh Wait, I don't know who I actually don't know who that is founder of calvinism You made that a prominent John calvin made it up Okay, um He had the stuffed tiger of harbs Uh, you know what? Yeah, I mean if you said you said that uh Well, because montan luther was on the list right and he was uh luther's on there, uh calvin has to be on there Uh Again, who knows All right, I mean do you gonna make any switch threats? John calvin Locking in. All right. Here we go. That's 100 points for team fleam. Nice one. You're gonna be serious No, calvin. No calvin. Michael jackson doesn't surprise me at all, but the calvin one's pretty surprising So so this time we're gonna go with a ragsian answer and choose church hall Oh, is that ragsian? Are we locking in dad? Yeah, that was your last one. So we gotta go. That was one of that was one of my suggestions That is true. Yep. That's what we're doing locking in winston jachel. You are correct And he ranks in at number 100 Oh right at the end. Oh wow barely that's you got him though and it counts for 100 points now Okay, uh So i'm gonna go ahead and say, uh nature Yeah, down with that Yeah No, uh, no, no deliberation. All right, nature. Nope Um, yeah All right one sec Just gonna get the spelling correct to make sure If an n i e z you'll be fine Well, yeah, if I get one letter misplaced which my fucking dyslexia is terrible with eyes and ease that I would make you fail Where I wouldn't want to do that. You know, I want to make sure I get it right. I love you guys I want a bigger picture. He has a cracking mustache All right, you are correct Yeah, we're ready. He is at number 82 That low Damn that low. Yeah There he is. I would have put him higher below john lock. Ah, I'm sure I I've got I've got a big list here of Figures that I'm pretty confident are on this list that I want to just rattle off right But obviously team flame has your turn now. Yes team fleams up Henry the 8th Sure. I feel like Dave's been scared into ragsism Ragsianism I'm stunned from the michael jackson ones. I should just leave it to him for the next year That shouldn't be stunning at all. I'm using a lot. Take a freddie mercury when he was 99 when he squeezed by Yeah, but the list can be shocking it can Indeed it can but uh, wait, so we're locking in which one? Sorry, which Henry? Henry the 8th. Very well. You are wrong That is okay. Um, um, um 100 points for team grumbo and team grumbos 10 Okay, um, so I'm there's a there's a few there's a few people i'm bouncing around here's one Columbus is on the list. What about francis drake? We're only good one Uh, are we are we happy to try for france? I don't want to say any of the names that I Have to mind how much how much longer is this round going like I don't know how long Yeah, how much longer does this round go for out of curiosity? Um, we're gonna need to thin out these black spaces a little more before we go to the next one Oh, we're gonna have to keep going How much is a little more? Uh, like well, it's depending. I need you guys to solve them Right sure, whatever. Um, how much is a little more? The thing is though the thing that's worth remembering is that good old captain cook He was not on the list But we think that francis drake is more Well known as a historical figure than captain cook. I'm inclined to say yeah, absolutely. Um I uh, I think I think that's a pretty confident inclusion. I think I I think yeah I'd like to I'd like to try for francis drake for francis drake then. Yes, no francis drake Okay, uh, that is incorrect. No francis drake. You are simply joking with me 100 points for team fleam and it's team fleam's tune. Wow. All right Okay, so somehow Henry the earth wasn't on there. Let's take that off the list Okay, we're choosing 100 Now we're gonna go with a deviant answer this time. Okay. What does that mean? Uh, we're gonna choose Marie Curie Uh, maybe that's that's that's uh, that's uh, maybe but I with this list I see it going either way. Do you have any thoughts on my emotomotashi? Or any No, I don't think so. Shut up I like how I see people like people guess things have already been guessed Hey, they don't know at least I've seen many people going like come on. Abraham Lincoln's a shoe Yeah I also like when people like oh, yeah told you so it's like come on jimmy Yeah Yeah, there's there's no I told you so's in this one. There's jimmy carter. I think jimmy carter is on here Be jimmy carter is above winston church. He'll come down. It's true People just tuning in and they're like, uh, jesus lamau So Marie Curie Sure that that's I can see the logic in that the science connection the fact that she was a You know a prominent woman at the time that probably gets her mentioned a whole bunch So just walking in I say a woman at the time You didn't change or anything. Ah, you are locking in right? Yes. You are correct Yeah, that's he ranks in at 40 Wow, that's way hard and I thought that's yeah. Yeah, that's um hundred points. Okay, so over to team grumbau So I'm thinking There's another there's another explorer that I think has a real shot Dora No Indiana Jones, you know, do you know who I'm do I don't know what you're on about. I'm also What are you thinking? Uh, I'm thinking the explorers seem to be cringe according to this list And I'm thinking scientists and inventors are less cringe So I'm thinking the thing is though because you got there's columbus is on the list Yeah, I've been again captain cook and francis dragon on the list But there's another there's another explorer who's pretty famous That I I'm thinking Um, but then I'm also wondering if maybe it's worthwhile to just abandon that line and then go for something else because Chopin was on the list. So that's another musician. There's another musician that hasn't been listed yet There's some pretty prominent scientists as well. Hmm. Uh, well What scientists do you think it of michael faraday? I I'm I I don't know It's actually faraday cage cage man Faraday cage First electric motor Okay, um That guy from reanimator who brought the corpses back to life. Um I don't know I There's that but like I'm thinking of someone else. Um, I'm tempted to just throw them out there because I feel like they have to be on here Uh, given that moat side is on the list given that bait ovens on the list. Hmm. Um, are you curious about that one as once? Possibility is it a composer that's been mentioned before? Uh, it's not a composer that's been guessed yet. I don't think and I'm not sure if they've been mentioned, but they may have been um They haven't been guessed, but I mean, I'm just gonna it's bark. I'm saying bark like that I feel like bark is a he's a he's a real possibility. Good old johan Then Johan bark. Yeah, he's For sure got to be on there That's what I mean. I feel like that's a safer guess then. Yeah, uh, the guy that you mentioned. Yeah I think faraday is a very safe guess by the way, but I I think back is probably safer Locking in mr. Bark. I because I I want to go for bark. Yeah, sure. All right. You are correct Ranked at 20. Johan Sebastian Yeah Put some respect on that. Oh bad. All right team fleam you're up So, um, how do we feel about famous astronomers? I have a different angle. I want to go down rags if you don't mind. Oh, I don't mind at all Team captain. Oh captain my captain All right. Wow the concept No, that's isn't capped at all. It's a term of endearment. What are you talking about? I know it's a team. It's a term of endearment, but it's just the tonality, you know Not at all Okay, okay. Okay. I'm gonna I'm gonna try a wild card one kind of a wild card. So I want to see if my logic's correct. Okay Okay, all right We're going to try Joan of Arc Is there any there may be? Joan of Arc. We're doing it. Hold on. Come on. Can we talk? Can we talk? It looks like He is allowed to do this. This is a power I don't even know what to think He said locked it in dev. I'm just clarifying in case there was a glitch you've locked in very well. You are correct Yeah, I don't know. Number 55 Wow I Definitely a maybe I didn't think it'd be that high. Yeah, I thought it'd be Marie Curie is higher and Joan of Arc is higher. This list is giving extra points to women Yes, being inclusive. So Um, that's uh, this is uh another one that has been mentioned several times That I now feel like has a real shot of being on the list another political figure from the 20th century Oh, no Well, yeah, right. I'm just saying like Gandhi, right? I mean Oof, right. Yeah, I reckon Gandhi He has to be right. It's just it's it's Gandhi. I feel like Gandhi's got to be on here Yeah, I can't think of a safer guest than Gandhi right now and his name's out there now. So let's lock in Mahatma Gandhi Very well. I'm happy with that locking in Mahatma Gandhi and you are correct He's ranked at 70 Okay, yep Good, good Excellent, something about time. You gotta remember Martin Luther King jr. Wasn't on the list Yeah, you gotta remember that gorge washington wasn't on the list Or Abraham Lincoln. I think yeah, we're we're in the realm of the maybes right now All right, team fleam like you so should we keep doing with the female hypothesis? um Let me see I mean might as well one more. I have one more girl. I can guess I've got a I've got a couple ladies on here too Okay Well, you you toss one out rags. Let's let's go for it. All right. Um the one that I think we should go for Amy Schumer No, it talks about her Dave. You silly goose um Agatha Christie Second not counting shakespeare most best-selling author of all time Who's that? Agatha Christie Okay, interesting I don't know if I choose matter on the audience express and many others Let's do it. Let's do it All right, I feel like the logic is really sound woman plus second best-selling author in history Locking in agatha christie Yes, you are incorrect Jesus Um, it feels a little too modern. Oh, thanks for voicing that I think I've got a really good one I'm surprised he hasn't been mentioned yet unless he has been mentioned and I'm stupid That's really so that's I think that's a I think that's a really good choice. I was going to flood another Another philosopher, but Voltaire feels like a he's got a he's got a big old shot Are you locking in one? I guess something I'd say before then is there's another one Who I'm also thinking feels like a sure fire one Do you feel like Voltaire is like a certainty in terms of getting on this list? I think he's a certainty I think in terms of notable philosophers, especially since he strays into the political sphere He has overlapped that way Um, like I said, I think I think Voltaire's a pretty what what's that John? I don't even know what he did, but yes 100% he invented lots lots of complaining that you can summarize it as I'm happy to go with Voltaire. Yeah, let's go Voltaire very well Voltaire is on the list at 92 92 all right interesting Team fleam you're up Um, I say we go with uh astronomer Is it a woman though? No, those don't exist Okay What do you got? Galileo We did Galileo. We got him Oh, did you? Oh, he's working on this one Number 11 he's number 11 Oh then um I have a couple other ideas, but uh Uh, oh What's his fucking name? Everything Brooks Uh, yeah, but you guys seem to be on a different wavelength with it when it comes to the philosophy Have we done um Okay, we did Do we do Copernicus? You got the kind of uh, you got him Right you get We've been here for a long time. It's all right. I'm sorry. Let's see Uh Do you want to keep do you want to do a manual can't? Uh, I think I have a better one than can't but we can do him since you already said him Well, I mean if we if no, if we if he's just said we have a better one. Yeah, what's yours? Well, I well, I mean do we want to I mean go for it I think we should because I don't think anyone's tried Marco Polo yet Hmm and yeah explorers. I know but he's the most famous explorer of all time I yeah, if columbos there then I guess you can try that It's too late. I'm picturing club Let me get some coffee before I mispronounce Who are we locking in? Yeah, so I think I think Marco Polo he has to be the most famous explorer of all time And yeah, there a lot of other explorers have been kind of getting cucked on this list But he's he's number one. So all right. I can tell you that Marco Polo is not only on the list, but he's number nine Marco Polo was the other explorer that I want. Oh damn. Yeah. Yeah Not bad. We cleared a whole column Okay, so that's Marco Polo at number nine Yeah, I guess he probably is the famous the most famous explorer He'll be him and columbus and Magellan is like the top three. I think you mean Colombo Magellan is a possibility. Yeah, all right. The other I mean Deb mentioned him, but I was thinking Emanuel Kant Yeah, Emanuel Kant should be on there team Grombo. You're up. Yeah. Well, nice one Deb. I've been wanting to know mine for a long time A bit of a philosopher superstar So, yeah, I feel like he's gotta be on here Oh, wait, sorry. Did someone just get locked in there? I missed that Well, I I don't know why I just feel like that was like, yep, that's in there 100% I just gotta grab him wherever he is. But yes, 100 points. Good job. That he died is where he is Yeah, that's about right You guys have been uh mentioning him many times. It was just a matter of when someone decided to grab him And you did I was just yeah, it just yeah, I thought he might be a bit obscure Uh, the thing is is that I feel like he's you know influential that way Do you feel like do you feel like he's more or less well known than Nietzsche? Uh less well known than Nietzsche surely, but yeah, um, maybe. Yeah, probably. Hmm. Yeah, maybe but who More or well less uh known than Voltaire Um The the political crossovers where this one gets weird because I want to say Voltaire would be more more known Because camp is very specific in terms of well, I say he's specific But he wrote on fucking everything in philosophy, but he only wrote within the realm of philosophy really Yeah, okay. Uh, well, yeah 100 points. Whoo-hoo team. Not bad team fleam. You're up. Oh my god Okay, take it. Hello. Thanks you there Oh, I'm sorry. I was spaced out. Um, I was looking at this list of thinking. Um Um Well, I have a few more that might be on there. Yeah, I've just got all these maybes Um, I got all these maybe I feel like mine are a bit too risky right now. So I'm kind of rolling with that Let's switch you out there Okay, when we just start trying my list, I mean if we want we can go back to What the last one we guessed was um, what was it? It was Marco Polo Marco Polo. Okay Oh Do you want to pick a I got a couple ancient names on here? Uh, I've got the modern names that if modern names were on here, these guys would definitely win Well in that case we better go with them Okay Let's try Henry Ford The Henry Ford Yes He invented the um, not just the car, but also the uh, what is it? I feel a bit too modern to think though It's the guy from Ford B Ferrari Not just the car, he also Modern manufacturing It's a it's a maybe for me, but I guess we could see right? I see the logic, but I still feel like it's pretty risky It's at the Henry let's try Henry Ford go locking in Henry Ford and you get nothing Yeah, I was not on board that. I think we should take a little bit more time with that one All right team grumbo So he's been mentioned before I feel like he's got a real good shot dante Um, yeah, I'm down to try dante. Yeah, do we want to try dante? Or do we want to wait? We have something of a but I don't have an alternative suggestion, but no What what's what's uh, uh, yeah, I I feel like he's I feel like he beat naked, you know I feel like dante's on here I think you would play slow, but yeah I yeah, do we want to want to lock in the good old dante? Yep, let's lock him in. All right locking in dante and you get a win at 44 44 Okay, cool. I'll take that. Yeah, not bad Devil may cry Come on now get him said come on Of course, that's what we meant team fleam Pressure's on well my uh my pick was that was a fuck up. So someone else jump in and still there's still logic behind It was a complete fuck up. I just think it's so tricky now. We gotta really Gotta know these it's hard Yeah, there's still a decent chunk that I think you guys will be able to guess for sure, but um We'll move into the last round soon. My brain keeps going into ones that I feel are a bit too risky So I'm trying to see what you guys have first um, I'm thinking I mean, is it up to me am I am I picking one here? Well, just if you can give us an idea like I'm I've I want to hear what you have to think before even John Paul the second See you need you need enthusiastic like yeah I'm I'm thinking If it's not a held yes, it's a no some I can't remember who said that Tony Robbins, maybe Yes, I I I feel the same way about that that you felt about Henry Ford. I think where it's like a maybe Yeah, I think it's a solid. Maybe how do you how do you feel about like a weird one like Elvis or Michael Jordan? Bit too modern or I would not go with any of them. I mean Elvis is a maybe I'm saying maybe it's maybe Yeah, Elvis is a maybe and didn't get on there. I just want to think I think if Ali is there It's possible for Michael Jordan, but I'm not too sure. Um, these are I'm not just seeing what you're just testing them out there There's so many that didn't make it around. I think it's a no for Jordan and a maybe for Elvis That's a weak maybe um Elvis makes me nervous after the Michael Jackson one, but maybe Rags, what do you think? I wouldn't go with Elvis. No, um I mean, I still think hope John Paul the second is Is a is a decently a good pick, but I don't know I've been like I said, I've been surprised many times before so Yeah That's let's try John Paul the second. Why not locking in pope John Paul the second and you are incorrect No, sir thing All right, I should have been benedict in grumble Sorry, I meant I mentioned one before that's cyrus. What do you reckon? uh I'm down to take that one off the table because yeah, we have something Yeah, but I mean I even then I I feel like it might be worthwhile to sit down and think about other I have another one in mind that I think is Has got to be a shoe in Well, uh, what do you what are you thinking? Alexander Graham belt Inventor of the telephone. Yeah, uh, yeah, but the fact that like the forward one the forward one Yeah, that makes it that's kind of my thing Has anybody actually guessed Thomas Edison? Yeah, yeah, we got number 34. All right, um Hmm, I'm not so sure about that one. Tesla's on here. I know Tesla is on here. That's true, but I don't know about I know but Henry Ford I I would call a slightly different sector Though I do find it baffling that Henry Ford isn't on here I want to I want to um that I was thinking of someone else too I'm I'm still I'm still scared of like early american But then again like john lock. Oh wait, not john lock. Sorry, uh, adam What's his name Adams? He got adam smith Um, there's someone else. I'm thinking but I'm kind of like iffy on him Going to I don't I don't know if I want to throw their name out there just yet Uh, I don't know like I guess, um Hmm. I'm just I'm trying to think of like because Cyrus is like he's he's an important historical figure, but I wonder if he But I'm just thinking about some of the what about some of the uh, the lesser known ones that ended up on here Let me take a look at some of the The other ones that got lower, you know on the list. Yeah um I say bell because we have all sorts of scientists from sort of across the span around here So I we have the entire gamut, but uh My association is not necessarily the best way to Something I wonder about authors now because now I'm thinking about authors that there aren't many on here And I wonder how many would end up getting on here. I think the number would be quite low I might just I might just throw them out here, but Dostoyevsky Oh, if if there's another author on here Dostoyevsky is one of them I think I think I feel like he's I feel like he's got a shot of being on the list Um, do you want to go from? um You know what? Why don't we? Uh, uh What do you think god about Dostoyevsky? Uh, Stephanie mayor, I think Mmm An intellectual, uh Oh man, um, uh, I'm tempted to I'm tempted to try like, uh, I'm tempted to try him Uh, but then again like George Orwell didn't make the list. I think he's I think he outranks Orwell as it Yeah, I think I yeah, uh, why don't we? Yeah, let's try. Let's try one of the most major writers of all time. Yeah, let's try. Let's try him. Dostoyevsky. Stephanie mayor final answer Yeah, exactly locking in Dostoyevsky. You are correct and he is number 69 Hey Nice the funny number. Yeah Over to team fleam Don't run. Well John Paul didn't work out No, it didn't. I uh, Henry Ford didn't work out. So so brooks. What was it? What was the one you were staking it all on brooks? No, there wasn't a mistake at all on them I just no, what was it? You were you're putting your first born on this one no, no, no, I um My mind keeps going to ones that are a bit risky and possibly a bit too modern and it just seems like you kind of Elevates One of the ones I mentioned but again, it might be a bit too risky I was I was gonna recommend the other louis the other famous king louis Which one was that the 16th I don't fucking know man. There's so many. Yeah, I well, there's at least like 16 There there is there just 16 actually We'll spend the next 16 rounds going through all of them. Okay. Just in order Okay, this I'm just gonna throw this one out because I'm not sure he was the one from the french revolution Dev you can tell me whether or not this is even like a decent answer or not But um, where does vlad the impaler rank in terms of like saying I got no Actually, yeah, he's reasonably famous Well, he he was the inspiration for Dracula, man, like that's what I mean like in terms of references I think he might be in this list, but I'm not you you'd be more familiar with this Yeah, that's actually kind of a wild card maybe You know what we we did a regs answer and before it, but if you guys want to do it then go for it Yeah, we did a regs answer and we did a dev answer. So we'll do vlad the impaler. Yeah, sure. Try it out so Vlad the impaler or vlad the third or vlad drac you Uh, not on the list God damn it. All right. So sorry All right, team grumble. You're up uh so again 20th century figures aren't excluded I don't think he's been mentioned, but like what about neil armstrong? Hmm I mean he is You know, like I feel like He's a very everybody's heard of neil armstrong. He's a very named figure. I think that's really safe bet I want to I want to try for armstrong. Yeah. Yeah, let's do neil armstrong Walking in hold on hold wait. Don't lock it in because in the name of fair play I think that was one of the ones that you included in no that was lance armstrong Oh That's the cyclist. Oh shit. Those are two different guys, aren't they? Do you wish to lock in the moon man? Yes. Yes, you are incorrect Okay Okay All right team clean you're up Okay, you want to try louis the 16th Rags, I would like to try louis the 16th. I think that because of his french revolution connection Uh, I think that'll make him decently well You know mentioned and stuff important figure for france or french history Louie the 16th it is. Let's do it. Let's try louis the 16th I'm afraid he is not on the list God feeling he wouldn't be on the list Yeah, I think I think there are two other figures in the french revolution that are more Popular than louis the 16th, but it was a good try. Yeah, that's true. There's there's others I would really like to try alexander graham bell Uh, if you want to try him we can do that. Sure. Let's try him You want to lock in alexander graham bell? Yes, you are incorrect. Are you serious? I kind of I kind of had a feeling 100 points to the fleam team and it's their turn Uh Okay, I'm going to do one of my answers now. I think okay. Sure Walt disney. Oh my oh that's on my list. That's on my maybe list Yeah, possible wild card. We locking in Walt disney Yep, you are incorrect Uh, yeah, I have to use the little I'll be right back, but I am surprised. Um, you know what it's because he's not dead yet That's why Uh, it's still walking around So one that I was thinking about was uh, benjamin franklin Yeah, um benjamin franklin feels like he's Frank, I don't want to I don't want to be too scared away because of the george washes. Yes. Yeah, let's do benjamin franklin Yeah, let's try benji. All right. Well locking him in and you are wrong Really, okay 100 points to the fleamers Wow I don't want to try jefferson now. I don't want to i'm scared away again. Uh, jefferson is already on there Wait, is he? Yeah, he was 2051 Oh, okay. It's been a wild card on my end, but nobody um had faith in it earlier I'm not sure if I should bring it up now, but I still think sasha is possible But if you have anything else better to go in there Miyamoto musashi, I think it's possible It's like the most famous samurai like they ever live and like the books and the things that he's written It's it's possible, but uh, it's still like a wild card isn't massive any more famous though I feel like musashi is the most famous. Yeah, my emotion was I think But the fact that sun shoe isn't on there that just I don't even know. Yeah musashi. Yeah, he developed a second row, right? Yeah, he did I don't know about that one. I think I think japan's too obscure for yeah, maybe wow Wow It's just based on this list. Yeah, I mean, wowie. Wowie Um, I mean maybe hero hito. He's probably the most famous japanese person But I don't know Come on flames. We need this one Uh Dig deep. Oh, you know what here here. Moller. Let's lock in alan turing adventure the computer Yeah, but the fort. Hmm Before it isn't there. Why would he be let's just get through them? Let's just get through If we're just doing that throw musashi in there like we're fucking at this point. It's gambling We're locking in alan turing. Wait, wait, wait. Hold on one more thing. Yes. Yes. Okay. All right. All right. Yes, you are incorrect Of course, yeah I'm thinking of a guy Uh, I'm thinking of a guy He's he's a guy, you know, do you know what I'm talking about? Uh, I don't there's a lot of guys. I know the guy. Oh that guy We both know interesting, uh an interesting mosque Hmm He jumped off of the uh, he jumped off of the the gallows to snap his own neck instead of being uh being hanged We did hitler Oh, right, holy how did yeah Mr. Bonfire night, right Well, it's just what do you think of uh I mean, what do you think of your boy guy forks? um Hmm I'm skeptical, but I at the same time feel like he's an extremely reputable figure But I don't know how like referenced he would be I suppose I'm not I uh, I don't know a manner. I I'm uh, I'm not sure like uh, hard to say Ever since 4chan was created heavily referenced Yeah True v for vendetta Let's think for a bit longer, but you know, yeah, uh, well, oh, yeah, right I still I gotta get rid of benjamin franklin for my list. He's not on that um I mean, we it's been joked about with jimmy card of it like ronald reagan Okay, wait no, uh reagan or kennedy uh, the thing is is that I feel like I would be so surprised if jfk ended up being on the list when washington and abraham lincoln weren't but like Carter's on the list I know carter's on the list And I I wonder how much we should think about carter as being indicative of anything or just like this really strange outlier, you know We can we could hop to the other side of the aisle and take a probably safer one um A safer political figure or a safer political figure Would kennedy's assassination give him a boost in that regard? I don't know Oh, what nixon? Uh, no, actually Gorbachev Um, I don't know about that. I'm not I don't feel like uh, I don't think he'd be on the list You don't reckon gorbachev is I don't think so. No, I don't think he'd be on the list. I don't know I I I don't know. I feel I feel like I would I would sort of pick reagan over uh over Gorbachev I could see that Um, I'm just not I'm just not uh, I'm not so sure about that uh Hmm I uh Man, I'm not I still don't know how interesting I'm even trying to guess like politicians Yeah, I got thrown off so much early on with uh, um Okay, so yeah, I you know, I'm I'm kind of I don't feel like guy forks would be on there now. I'm starting to think he He might not end up on there trying to move back in time, you know Another because what about what about Ivan? Ivan the terrible Ivan the terrible. Yeah. Hmm. Good one Do you think do you think I guess we end up firing out cyrus? Uh, we never threw him out. Uh, he's still cyrus is still on the list Um, maybe it's maybe it's maybe it's worth. Is it time to deploy cyrus? Yeah, maybe let's let's let's see if cyrus is on the list, you know All right, all right. It is walking in cyrus. You are incorrect I am team fleam, what have you got? um I want to go with epicurus Pasa Is that uh, uh, uh, I mean, I don't agree about this try them Do you want to talk about it? We're trying all the things at this point We're trying all the things because if you really don't feel it's bad If you feel that it's not a good one and you really feel strongly that we could try something else Here's the thing. We're at the point in the game where I don't think we're gonna get it by talking about it We're gonna get it by blind luck. So I wouldn't say that but All right, then I guess we're going with it. Let's let's see if it's on there. It's on my it's on my list So you are incorrect Wow I thought that was Team grumbos If epicurus isn't on that because I like I don't feel like diogenesis has got a chance. No Um Oh my god, what about uh, it's I was a philosopher's what about hygel I go, sorry Hegel I wrote I wrote Yeah, he go would be the next down the down the list in terms of popularity, you know Cons on there. So you got yeah Hegel's the bridge between camp and marx so And they're both on there I I yeah, do you want to you want to give you want to give hegel a shot? Yeah I don't know the fact because we got because niche is on there cons on there I feel like if if hegel fails we've determined the philosophical like cutoff point I think so. Yeah, uh Yeah, yeah, you want to yeah. Yep. All right walking in hegel and you are incorrect Okay, team fleam What have you got shea shea gavara and elvis. Those are my two picks That's your two picks. Oh, you thought um, which one you want to do first? I feel like elvis would be the strongest of the two Both the gamble, but I think I think it's a I think both are gambles, but I think it's Because we didn't get michael jackson So elvis is probably on with him in terms of yeah, he's the only other one And we didn't get chairman mao and shea gavara is Is a way smaller communist figure chairman mao. I don't think shea gavara. Yeah, I'd rather go If we're but between these two I'd rather go with elvis Let's let's go with elvis. We're locking in elvis Alrighty, you are incorrect. No elvis The freddie mercury's on there, but elvis isn't Right. Yeah, that's maybe it's Elvis was on my list. So I'm glad you uh, I'm glad you There's there's one other singer. I was thinking john lennon Oh I'm talking about musicians. Can I float uh, vogner? We never said vogner did we that's that's that's Vogue has been mentioned Yeah, yeah, but he was mentioned, but we never actually guessed him. You know what? Why don't we why don't we try that? Yeah, that's a good one. Vogue. Yeah You wish to lock in vogner. Yes Uh That's richard vogner, right? Just to keep dicky vogner. Yes w a g dw All d-dubs, you know what? I was this is why I wanted to double check. I was certain he was on here, but he's not Wow I think that was a good guess. Yeah, I think so too. Hey, we there's been a lot of good guesses If we want to follow it up with another composer, we can do that. We got well, let's let's exhaust brooks's list first I think let's do the other one that you have. No, I don't think shaguavara is a good choice at all No, but he he said musashi, right? You never guessed uh, musashi was one. I just um Not super confident in them, but I'm just doing to people who could potentially be left Okay What do you guys do you feel either way about I kind of want to go with this I would not vote shaguavara. Uh, I feel like mal isn't there. I don't think shaguavara has got a chance in hell Okay, um I do have Someone's from antiquity I've got some historical ones some authors some generals. I've got a composer that I'd like to knock out I have a small list at this point too Ones that it could be like a small list of maybes. I got yeah, I just got a maybe list and we just run through them But uh, yep. What do you have on that same with me? Well, I listen out We're gonna hold on to the um Let's uh, I want to get this composer out of the way because I'm curious. I want to go with the tchakovsky Are you okay with that? Uh, is that tc k h? Tc h I think uh, let me double I don't want to use I don't want to use google. I think it's I think it's tch a i tch a i tch a i k o b s k y I believe That's what I've got it spelled as so I hope that's it But I think that he was decently prominent enough and you know his you know well known for his stuff a good pick. Yeah Yeah, I that but that's you know I think he uh, yeah can do it Just ensuring here on my end, but you guys you sure want to lock that in yes or no? Book of the five rooms, so I'm throwing out there. Yeah, I could try it. Yeah, give it a shot All right, but otherwise according to I mean, I'm pretty certain he's not on the list Okay, but are you certain I've checked the multiple permutations, but don't worry You'll be refunded your points if anything otherwise was to happen in future, but I'm pretty sure he's normalized All righty, okay um I'm almost tempted to try shag of our just to see It if if it was on there, I would be So fucking shocked. Um, I I'm rags gonna eat the switch Like I guess I can't eat no switch I am surprised it now, uh, isn't on there, but I mean lennon was on there starland's on there I'm so surprised this so But another one that i'm thinking as well in terms of philosophers is uh Now am I going to mispronounce it goats go to Go to that's his name, right? Isn't it go to isn't that the pronunciation is that the pronunciation your hand wolf gang One girta. What do you what do you think? Oh, um, that's a good one I think I think he could well be on there In a similar way what do you think shot? I'm a look I was singing a sharpen hour as well uh, I was singing a sharpen hour, but uh I don't know. I'm also sure if I may I would like to float Strauss your hand Strauss Man, I I guess I'm trying to think I was involved in so many disciplines. So That's I I guess the thing is a moment just because haigle, uh, haigle didn't get on there I feel like that we shouldn't rule out that there are other philosophers from that uh, that time It's his specific status as interdisciplinary that makes me think he's likely to be on there Yeah, that's my thinking. Uh, so it's what go to I don't think it's sharpen hour I don't think he's I don't think yeah, I doubt Chopin Howard make it so go to or Strauss, I I'm tempted to go for God go to yeah, let's try go to Let's do all right larkin in your hand wolf gang von Goethe. Is that is that about it? That's about right Beautiful last name. Yeah, g o e You are correct. He's on the list One All right, sweet Wait, wait, where was he sorry? Oh, 66 66. Yeah Wow, okay He's above Nietzsche That's white 69, but we'll take it so I'm gonna give one of mine a shot. We've kind of gone around the circle a bit. So, uh Marie Antoinette Would she be written about more than Louis 16? Yes, I know I feel so I think she's more of the face of the country evolution. He was to throw you a barn. I would I would pick her over on the other guy Um Maybe yeah, maybe Let's do it. All right. Sounds like we're locking in Marie Antoinette. Are you sure? You sound pretty sure she's not on there. I'm so sorry. Wow. Wow. Okay Hmm. Just looking at this list. I'm just trying to let me Hmm. Um I don't know. I might throw this one out there. What do you think about Amelia Earhart? Oh my god? That was oh, you're freaking I think that's another banger. So yeah, yeah, Amelia Earhart Amelia All right, sure that banger is a fart in the wind. No So Amelia Earhart is a name that should be on the list, but isn't that's kind of how I viewed it Should we build up another list of names that should be on the list? We'll make our own list with black A whole list of people that should be on this list Uh, okay. We're kind of getting down to the wire here. Um, that was one of my go through Like there's some pretty big historical figures we haven't covered yet, but I don't think they're going to be on the list Like where does Where does Rosa Park? I don't know. I feel like uh, we we still got plenty of um, It would be weird if Rosa Parks was there, but no more than luther king or a junior wasn't. Oh, it should be strange Oh, wait, I got one. I got one. Malcolm X. Okay Malcolm X surely not if Yeah, if king wasn't on your Malcolm X is to try but I'd say montluther king isn't on there. No way Yeah Oh, I can I got some All right, let's do this. Let's go with Hammurabi Hammurabi Which one isn't there two of them? The the code guy the code of Hammurabi Hammurabi Okay, sure. I feel like that's a decently whichever one Whichever Hammurabi wrote the code of Hammurabi Yeah, let's let's try that one and see if that works. I think that's a reasonable guess Um, I'm afraid he's not on the list Ah, okay. All right. I got I got a guess and I feel like he's he's got to be on here Your boy Vincent van Gogh or goth. However you pronounce it I like that one. Do you approve of this choice? Um, yes Yes I can tell you that you are indeed correct Yeah Seven I think it's go I assume it's go, but I could be wrong. Yeah It could be go was on here So if van goes on here then Picasso's on here. I've got one. I got it's got it. Are you sure? Yes I don't fucking know. Just do whatever you want He's modern, but he's he's probably the most famous modern artist dev dev. How about not that's true. Is that in is not I predict I predict he's not on the list Am I correct assuming you are locking in Picasso Picasso All righty. Let me give you a gig. Oh my god. You are correct Picasso is on the list Number 62 There we go. Well done. Okay interesting Grumbo, I don't think he'd make it if you can guess two more. We will move into the final round Yeah, okay Let me think about my What what are some other ones? Okay, so we tried vince man go Um, do you guys tried michael? Did you try michael jackson and he was a no? Uh, yeah. Yeah, we tried michael jackson um Do we want to try john lennon? I really don't I'm not Okay, okay. Yeah, that's fair enough. Uh, I mean do we want to try uh, do we want to try jfk? Another one I was thinking by the way to throw into the mix would be fdr Oh, um, I would I like jfk. I would take jfk or reagan over FDR right now. Okay. What about uh, what about your boy teddy roosevelt? Gosh no love for nixon, huh I think I I think I agree with you guys if I probably I'm trying to think about this list and how it would do it And I feel like jfk would end up uh Oh, man, it might be jfk. Um, do we want to try jfk? Um, I do I would be wanting to trust you over my own intuitions on this. So yeah Man part is on here. All right. Let's let's try one that is inspired by jimmy kata being on this list jfk All right jfk brought to you by jimmy kata John f kennedy is not on the list John f kennedy is not on the list but jimmy kata is yes. Yes. Okay. All right, sure That's okay um Got none orthodox. I want to go with a greek mathematician I'm not god damn it. Let's do it All right, let's do it. Of course greeks. Yeah, um, let's do it. Uh, aristastanis There's no fucking way Can we discuss this instead of just hitting the trigger every time? I have such a different pick Can we at least discuss the different ways? You measured the The basic circumference of the world and the famous greek mathematician A lot of these people are foundational to a lot of the sciences. So I'm taking okay I'm taking a strange pick just based on like, you know worldwide popularity Bruce Lee, okay Bruce Lee Bruce Lee you all fucking would be No, I think you said Mussolini first Worldwide popularity Bruce Lee If Muhammad Ali is on there. I'm literally taking a gamble on Bruce Lee in terms of like Bruce Lee could be there. Yeah Bruce Lee could you're totally under Anyone who says that they're underestimating his fame in terms of the martial arts world and his influence In fact, he died young kind of skyrocketed. Yeah, he is extremely famous. He's like the godfather of martial arts Like I would he's a guest. I would not choose it But I think I would I think I would pick Bruce Lee over Uh, I forget the name you chose drags already. I'm sorry. Oh, that's fine. If you don't know who the fuck that is No, I don't I'm sorry I you know, let's go with Bruce Lee. Fuck it Bruce Lee We're locking in Bruce Lee. Is that is that just confirming? Yes, you are incorrect No, Bruce. Yeah, and damn it Oh, wait. Yeah, that's right team grumble. What have we got? Okay, uh I oh damn did not just wait. I feel like I had one just A merge in my in my little brain here Uh, let me think for a second Uh, uh, what about what about like a till of the hunt With Genghis Khan on here that seems like a reasonable bet Yeah, because I'm I'm running fucking dry. Uh, yeah, I'm willing to go with a till of that Again You know what how about Yeah, yeah Yeah, a till of the hun. Yeah, let's do that one. I agree. Yeah All right, a till of the hun. You are incorrect. No, a till of the hun. Oh shit. Poor guy Team fleam What's that? What's happening? Yeah, I got plenty left, uh Alan Turing That wasn't gas. No, I thought it wasn't. Okay, fair enough. No, I think dev didn't dev I thought dev said Alan Turing prayer. I'm so sure I'll go to democracy on that one. It's fair if he yeah, it's fine. Um, Yeah, I guess turn. Okay. Um Let's see the does anyone else that uh have one they feel strongly about because I don't feel really strongly about any of them Any more just names that are decently famous, but I don't know It's hard to be strong when I just be running down famous people. I know Last last last uh rounds joke answer muesilini might be in there. Did I just best I just guess Bruce Lee like I think if Churchill squeaked by it like 100. I don't think muesilini would be any higher Hmm, maybe not Uh, I We can move into sudden death after this gas if you want. It seems like everybody's running out of uh I have I have one wild card just sitting at the bottom of the list Okay, do you want to guess that one? I'll just I'll just toss it out there just to see what happens jack the ripper Oh my god. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa two. He's a real person. He just don't know who he was but still that's weighted like Come on. Oh, I mean He's he's the most famous serial killer of all time So he's not more famous than ours. You will believe that a lot of people might say other names, but yeah Yeah, I think there's a lot of famous ass people that we haven't named Yeah, but this this is like a semi-retarded list. So maybe it'll be on there If if 100 wasn't filled I'd say maybe but like there's no way we're getting like I think that's you guys do you guys both like very disagree with this I don't think that's gonna be on the list at all. I think that's a throw. Okay. I think that's so All right. Dev denied I like um, so some of mine, I've been That's a choice Uh, just right. Which is the strongest? What about, um Fibonacci Fibonacci Yeah, he's a mathematician that might mean, you know You make sequences true Then we can go into like American history. We've still got some American big American history names to go through Rags, didn't he invent the lie? I don't know Fibonacci Wow Do you want to do like early American history and go with like benjamin franklin? The last american president I would want to guess is fdr Or ronald reagan or Maybe reagan, but I think fdr over reagan, but either way both of them are long FDR is not a bad choice. I feel I mean, he is he is the equivalent of Churchill and Churchill's in there. So Yeah, yeah, yeah, there's a fdr. I'm gonna try fdr. Sure. We try him. Are we locking in fdr? Yeah, yes, franklin d roosevelt. Are you on this list? No All right, no Now, uh, we can move into sudden death. What do you guys want another another round on that one? What what I could name names for days. So Yeah, well, so the idea of course is that this is a easier time to earn points sudden death's going to be a little bit more Hectic, but that's okay. I got yeah Don't give up yet. Don't give up. Not necessarily. I could imagine give up Can we hear what sudden death entails? So death will be I provide you the name that is on the list And then you as a team will have to guess it within five places obviously being very difficult at this point And uh, when you lose assumingly it passes to the other player and the first team to get it right gets uh It was going to be 200 points, but maybe I'll make it 500 points just to give them a chance of getting back Absolutely everything Also, that still wouldn't undo everything because you would technically be starting with Remember your both teams it applies to free so you would start with technically nine wins While while they would start with technically Seven went no way. Yeah, someone like that. You'd be ahead. Yeah, let's let's go. Yeah 500. All right, sure Well, I mean, I don't mind making 200 like I said It's just uh, it's to give them a a shouting chance if you don't if you want them to do that. That's it's okay. It's fine Just that you know, if it were 200 they're gonna have to win five in a row to catch up That's great. Uh, let's make it sporting then. Yeah 500 Let's make it 368 so you have to Alrighty, let's move into sudden death then I will provide you a name that is on the list And you will take it in turns to guess where they are within five places first team to get it correct We'll earn that 500 juicy points Are you guys ready? We'll start with team grumbo as has been the tradition and uh, we'll go Well, I say this I'm not gonna say this out loud. We'll start here um All right, rafael the painter Okay, um, we should then Do you want to just start off like with numerical odds? I think that's probably which if it's if we pick 70 so wait, so if it's within So 75 is the correct place and right Well, because 75 gives us one two three four five six chances. Am I am I understanding that? 70 to 80 that would give you Okay, that's I think that's a good idea. Then why don't we try that? Let's go 75. Yeah, all right Incorrect. He's not found within 70 to 80 and okay. All right team fleam Um That between 70 to 80 I feel like he'd be lower instead of higher I I might aim for that I'm thinking 85 is 84 85 85 is the number. I think wait. Hold on. We we want to get between that We want to get that group between 83 and 90. So yep 85. That's what I would guess We're going with 85 Let's see 85 one two three four five. Yes. I guess that's the safest number. Yeah, all right. That would be 80 to 90 incorrect Okay, back to team grumber. He's high then. He's high Um, do you feel like he would go above or below Michelangelo? I think he might just be in 97, but um So, oh man, this is this a bit of heist wait, where is uh, where's good old Michelangelo on this list? Oh, he was it. He's 32 That's what I'm saying Do you think would you would you guess that he would be higher or lower? Than Michelangelo because I'm tempted to say lower lower than Michelangelo That's what I'd be tempted to say. And so the question is do you think that Do you think that he would be up there with? Dante with Vincent van Gogh Or do you think I think he could reach Dante, uh Oh man, I I'm tempted by your 97 I'm tempted by that I think I oh man, I'm so tempted by you saying 97. I feel like there's a there's a real chance that he's there Are you feeling lucky for me? Um, I'm not hunk I just I really don't I feel like he isn't that I feel like he wouldn't be that high Yeah, kind of my thinking he wouldn't be that high. So I'd be tempted to go for well Wait, so with the the prior guess it was made those guys would have covered 88 and 90 What's been covered right now is 70 to 90. He's not in there. Okay So I guess uh, do we do we want to try? 97 do we want to just go for it? Let's do it. Yeah 97 It's wrong. Let's do it. It is wrong Fuck so what's been cleared now is 72 100 technically Fuck yeah. Okay. So so I don't think he's that high I so we can cover we can cover either 65 and 68 or 43 46 52 Because I don't think he's in the 20s No I guess in the 60s I guess in the 60s So we should cover 65 and 68. Yeah, those would be the two safest ones. Yeah, let's do it Let's do 68 then Are you choosing the number 68? Yes Okay, because that would then clear it down to 58, but really it doesn't matter because you are correct. He sits exactly at 68 Yeah, wow, which according to the new rules no Bro, you already got five already got a handicap. Okay greedy That sounds like we've got a massive handicap though because we've we're always going first That means we've always got like the hardest chance of actually no they're first now No, we're going first really Remember it the start of each round you guys The handy the handicap is if you get it wrong you narrow it down for us a little bit more So that's no no, okay. It doesn't matter like the next one now will be team fleam is first. So yeah, yeah Alrighty so Where team fleam? Where is abraham the religious figure? I thought he might be on there. I feel like he's 40s It was he real too Just answer the fucking question I don't know Um, I'm leaning towards 43 there. So we're I'm leaning towards the 40s. Yeah, but we can hit 43 46 and 52 and one guess Yeah, that gets a good shot with 48. Do we get that? Yeah, with 48 we'd get that I think let's make sure the math. Yeah, let's try there I feel like that's about where it would be. Let's math it out Yeah, because remember he's also in uh islam and judyism I think you're going with 48 which pushes you from is it 43 The 53 Yes, 48 53 here. Yep All right, you are logging out and I assume Yep, right incorrect Wait, so that means 43 to 43 to 52 was out 43 is what you're telling me 43 to 53 is out. But yeah, you I want to go 22 to 23 I'm tempted to do that as well. Yeah, let's go for that 22 Yeah, okay, you are correct. He is number 22. Yeah, I had a feeling I had a feeling he'd be high up Congratulations. All right, but that And uh, yeah, that puts you at 51,050 points. Whoa. Yeah, that's fine, isn't it? Okay, I don't think that says 51,050 I was waiting for someone to note it Um, okay, so the next day which goes to team grumbau is vladimir putin Um Okay, you're fucking kidding me. Yeah, I know right. He's on there. He is vladimir putin's on the list Really? Um, I I feel like that's gotta be low I feel like that has a chance to be in 97 But I'm feeling that's it's gotta be it's gotta be low. It's gotta be like from 88 to 97. We could try that Any thoughts? Yeah, I I think I'm in agreement. Yeah, I I don't see how you could be Uh, which means if we guess so we guess 92 that would that would give us that would give us everything, right? That would be to make it easier if you want to just give me the bracket of 10 as in like 88 98 or 80 80 to 90, right? Or 88 to 98 88 to 98. Yeah. Yeah, sorry Yeah, uh, we happy with that. Yep, you are incorrect team fleam 25 boys, he's there I think they were close. I'm looking at like the 83 84 I mean, I guess we go at one bump above that. Yeah potentially Isn't the biggest spread choosing 76 So 71 to 81 it should also take a look at the people that are there compare specifically Putin to them Um, I still feel like that has too much meaning on this list. Um, yeah, hold on. It's just been I Um I'd rather go one above theirs because I I do think he's low even though we only cover I think Oh, we should do 80 then 75 to 87. Yeah, let's do 75 to 85. Yeah Yeah Locking in 75 to 85. You are Incorrect team grubo. Christ. Um, that's crazy. That's nuts. I just Flipping coins. There's no point. There's no point thinking. There's no point thinking. I okay. So the thing is I I'm still feeling like it can't it can't be Above like he can't be above 60. No way. No way that's like 25 43 Which means that if we we got to get 65 to 73 If we got that as a so we if we did like 65 to 75 that covers that bracket. No way. He's higher than that He's on the list. I think I can't believe he's on the list. Yeah He's on the list and he's above literally any other people. Uh, yeah, you should Yes, including jimmy carter He might be the most shocking one Jimmy So 65 to 75 so we want to do that. Yep. All right. Locking in 65 to 75 and you are correct. He lands at 65 What do you mean? He's above gondi. Can we talk about the fact that he's above nature? He's above tolkin. He's above john lock Holy he should be on this list. He's above markia velli Hello All right, anyway Team fleam you have rembrandt the painter Um, he could be in the 43 to 52, but I'm thinking that too. I think in that too 43 to 53 I think who knows after the putin slot and like it's yeah You know, I'm just gonna be 25 do it. I'm not even gonna bother think about it. It's a waste of time to think about 43 53 go Okay, you guys no go go 43 to 53. You are incorrect Rembrandt Rembrandt, I don't know who that is. Yeah, I don't really paint her painter One of the most famous painters. Yeah. Well, sorry. I don't know how culture I am. Yeah. Yeah, uh, what if we What if we tried from like 75 to 85? Do you feel like he could fall into that, uh That little grouping which area? Sorry. Well, so here's the thing. They've already guessed 43 to 53. Uh, Didn't get it. I don't feel like he's 25. I'm not I'm not I don't think so um But if we tried like Yeah, we tried 73 to wait. Sorry. Hold on. I'm 75 to 85 give us coverage of one two three four five six seven Uh seven You know Yeah I'm on bullet So you're going uh, just say one more time. Sorry 75 to 85 75 to 85 Locking in Yep, you are correct. He sits at 76. Yeah All right How do we feel about him sitting at 76? I I wish I knew more about the No, right? Well, I don't know enough about the individual to comment Maybe if I look him up, I'd fine Yeah Oh Now wait remind me whose go was that? That was flim's go rice with back to grumbau. That was flim went back to us. Yeah. All right then grumbau You guys You gotta you got a religious figure named saint peter Saint peter that's on my list Oh What god dammit, I feel like he could be in the 43 to 53. Yeah, I think he's up there I think I don't know about 25 No, I don't think he's 25. I think it's 43 Yeah, I'm happy with that. I'm pretty confident in that what I say that but you know 43 to 53. Were you locking in? Yes, you are wrong Oh, all right. Wow. I actually think I think I think it's 25. I think it's 25 I think peter's 25 slot Abraham was 22 whatever that means Um, I think it's him man Yeah, go for it. Yeah, if you feel it, let's just go with it. Let's do it. Let's do it. Do it What do you think brooks? I reckon that you feel in it feeling electrified I just think it's best to cover more slots. I mean, he's the first pope, so Yeah, he's the first. Yeah, I mean you gotta remember that's putting him above mary Yeah, yeah, but I think that he's Yeah, go for it. Hey, that sounds good. Yeah, I still 25 whatever 25 you are wrong Okay above above. Yeah. Uh, well What about uh, if we got coverage of 71 Because I feel like you wouldn't be because we could get coverage of 70 to 80 that would give us uh about five So visit in the 70s. That's that's the next one. Otherwise, we'd have to be going into the 80s So I'm feeling I don't think he's that yeah 70 to eight. I don't think he's that long. It was like a yeah So we're guessing the the stretch of the 70s then Yep, yes You would be correct Yeah 78 Okay All right All right All right, next Oh Christ, I'm like that's literally what's like Vladimir Putin is more important Putin is more important than Peter Uh, all right, team fleam, right? Team fleam your next one to find is the explorer Ferdinand Magellan Okay, so Magellan's on here, but drake it. Okay. I get yeah. I mean he's famous. Yeah. Yeah I just think Strategically we need to go within the ones that have the higher blocks instead of just throwing away the 25 That makes no sense. So so the highest block is 80 to 90 He wouldn't give 25 surely but It's gonna be something stupid in 25. I'm sure Just strategically Maybe jack the ripper's a 25 80 to 90 is the largest block Good Even with our guests even with that I just with with our guests I don't want it to make their guests really simple directly after so we gotta really put thought into that Well, 80 to 90 is the largest block and 70 to 80 is the second largest block So, so just let's 80 to 90 yet. Well, we'll take the chances. All right. You're locking in You are wrong Dean grumbau what we got Do you think who we deal with here again? Magellan? Magellan? Do you feel like he I don't think he's 25. I think that's too high But I don't know enough then again, then again Well, I guess the thing is I feel like but then again, I feel like 70 to 80 might be too low Someone most tempted to try 43 to 53. I I'm putting my trust in you on this one I don't know enough to make it. I don't really know much about it either honestly, but that's kind of what I'm feeling It's 43 to 53 Okay, 43 to 53 That's all right 43 to 53. You are wrong Okay Back in the game team fleam Okay, so 70 to 80 is the largest block. Yeah, there it is there it is Lock it in Sorry, which one was that That's the next largest block we can cover 70 to 80. You are wrong Oh, for fuck's sake. Okay, so it's either 97 or 25 I'm thinking 25 Yeah, I'm I'm thinking 25 It's a coin toss, but I uh, oh man I would probably Yeah, I don't know if you want to go for it or Or then again though. I don't know. I feel like You know what, what are we trying 97? Okay, good old 97 never fails Whoa Are we locking in 97? It's 97 You are wrong Fuck wow Team fleam, you have one choice I can't, I can't do that 25 25 is the challenge That's all right there, man Are you ready for me to reveal whether or not you're correct? Reveal Here we go. Boom. It is indeed Mr. Ferdinand. There he is. Explorer. Congratulations. Okay. 500 points. Wow. Yeah. I got scared away Totally underestimated you, Mr. All right, now it's Grumbo's turn I'll uh I'll throw you a real hard one this time Hans Christian Anderson The writer. Where would he be? Hans Christian Anderson Wait, do you have any idea of where you feel like? Uh, I want to say in the 80 range Yeah, it could be the Like 80 to 90? Yeah, 80 to 90 Okay. Yep. All right We're going with 80 to 90. Are you sure? Yes Very well. You are correct He sits at the wondrous 84 Let's go Yeah, not bad Let me just get him on the screen for you. Boom. Here he is Wonderful. And that's another 500 points Give me Christmas. Okay. I'm wondering if like the brothers, uh, I guess the problem is like if it includes multiple people But now I'm wondering if the brothers Grim are on uh on this list Because he's the guy right little man, right? If it's two people, if it's two people, then that brings in the uh, the right brothers as well Yeah, they're they're sort of on my low list It would be individuals, wouldn't it? That's what that's what I'm saying is I'm I'm not sure Yeah, uh, anyway, team flame. Yes, your name is Francis Bacon That is right, right? The philosopher I was gonna roll in for a second. There's not the colon or something. Huh. I guess it makes sense. He's on now Yeah, fair Where is he team flame? Where is he? Francis Bacon um I feel like he'd be in the I think he's a 40s contender Yeah, considering how retarded this list has been with explorers in the 40s All right, we'll knock out I'm assuming the middle column 42 to 52. Yeah All right. Well, you are incorrect. He's not there It's about 97 Yeah Well, I mean, we can make an other than that, right? Yeah, we should honestly just play the coverage all the time. Yeah Okay. Well, I mean, what do you reckon? um Yeah cover 97 and so that would be what 87 88 to 98 basically. Yeah All right, uh, I'm gonna do that. Are you sure? Yep Very well, you are correct because he's at 88 Christ, okay. All right. Not bad pulling ahead Fucking this 500 point thing was a good idea. Yeah, I was about to say this really backfire, didn't it? So I was trying to say it applies to both teams Yeah fire, we didn't have a chance if we didn't have it It was our only chance of having a chance it can't backfire either Are we somehow pull ahead because that's how math works Yeah, we have to get six right now to even equal out. All right team grumble. Your next one up is Suleyman the Magnificent Suleyman's on here. Wow. Um, okay Oh, I'm so sorry Oh man, um I'm thinking in in the 40s. What do you do? La Mal Hey, man, I don't know do whatever you want, man It doesn't matter what I choose it's it's completely It's indistinguishable randomness. Just do it. Just do whatever. What do you think brooks? It could be anywhere. I haven't even got a chance to hear the name. That's what I'm sure that's my problem Okay, um I don't know the fuck that is so but again, well, he's called the magnificent. He's gotta be in the 40s Listen, listen if he's not in the in that 40 block then Vladimir Putin's above him Go for it. Just go for it. Which he might as well be on this list. Who knows? Yeah Are we going for the 40 the middle column? Yes based on that name All right. Yeah, he's magnificent You are incorrect What though? We just can't really now I'm thinking 70 to 80. That's my thing 70 to 80. Yeah You're locking in 72 Yep, yes, you are correct Yeah 73 I'm fringy like accidentally sabotage team fleam there No Brilliant really it was Machiavellian. No, really it wasn't because because Theo was saying I was trying to stop him because I thought he might be given him the right answer Yeah All right, well Now it's grumbos turn It was me for being tired. Hope francis Francis He's on but not hope john paul the second. That's I'm I'm aiming low Uh what like 90 to 90 or 97 or do you want to uh 79 to 89 Uh that gives us so that gives us three. We could It's possible to get 75 to 85 because 89 doesn't give us 90, right? That's just oh, you're right. Yeah That's a good one 75 75 85. Yep. Yeah Yep, okay. You wish to go from 75 to 85. Yes, sir. You are incorrect Okay, all right team fleam you're up And I could be either one it could be it could be anyone It could be any of them anywhere at any time You chose 75 85, right Um What did you guys choose? Yeah, they've knocked out 75 79 and 83. Yeah Wait, they knocked out 75 79 83, but not 85. Well, no Oh, sorry. Yeah, it's a tense. Wow. Yeah, okay. Well Yeah, so you got one because this is the thing Even if you thought there's no rhyme or reason you still have statistical answers. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, just cover as many of the black spots as you can as far as I'm concerned Yeah, the biggest group is the isn't the 40s again. It's just playing the odds. There's no rhyme Otherwise little column. Yep All right, middle middle column it is and you would be correct Because he sits at the wonderful prestigious position of 52 There you go 52 The comeback begins How the really really Okay, it's close Just joking. All right. Uh team fleam is your turn guys. All right, fleam. You've got the vaulty How is oh my god, it's the vaulty. Oh, that's of course Yeah, I'm looking at this list here. How is pope france is higher than paul the apostle because this is madness This just use the numbers we can go home All right, so you had the vaulty Well guys Oh my god, wake up guys. I'm thinking the 83 to 93, but who knows what that means. It means nothing Four seasons nihilist rags Okay, yeah, let's let's do it. Let's do it. We're not knocking in 83 to 93 was it? Yeah, that is incorrect Okay, um, I'm I'm almost tempted to No way for vaulty is 97 No way It's so it's got to be either You reckon the 70 range is where the vaulty would sit I'm trying to I'm trying to figure out if there's some way to make sense of it because it's either It would either be play to the numbers and go with the 70 range Or do you think you can make a compelling argument for the 40s? Could you make a compelling argument that vaulty is? Comparably as well known as charles darwin vincent van go But at the same time, I mean, you know chopping down days up there. I could see it I could see it too um, oh man, I mean, I mean it's uh um I uh, oh, I don't know. I don't know. Um, I'll try it Uh I'm I'm feeling I'm not feeling as confident that he'd be that high My I'm I'm almost I'm tempted to go for the 70s on that one. Okay. Yeah Or well, well, I don't know you convinced or like What do you think the vaulty? I mean he is pretty well known. Yeah, he's That's all below Dante That's yeah, oh, you know what? All right, uh, why don't why don't we go for the 40s then? Yep, let's take 43 and 46 then you're gunning for the 40s. That right. Yes, you are incorrect Damn All right team fleam Basically your options are the 70s or 97 Basically, I guess we'll go 70s because of just fucking statistics 70s 70s it is and you would be correct He is 75 Okay, so just above Rembrandt just below John Locke Uh, that feels kind of rude. He's more well known. He's rude. Do you think that you know, yeah I don't know not. I think Rembrandt's way more well known than Vivaldi Uh, well sure, but then it might be Vivaldi not Rembrandt Maybe I guess I guess all I'd say that is maybe Rembrandt should have been higher Maybe um, I mean there are some bizarre places on this list Um, all right. Well team grumbo first. You've got the chemist Uh, louis pasture or louis pastor pastor. Oh, he's on the list. I'm not surprised. He's on the list Pasteur, that's your pasteurization. Oh cool I want to go with numbers now Yeah, just the numbers game. Yeah, can we uh, so it would just be Yeah, do you think he would be in the 90s is kind of a question that would rule out a certain configuration here. I think 79 to 85 is the More reasonable. Yeah, I I'm okay with that 79 to 85. Is that what we're locking in? Yep. Yeah. Yeah, fuck it You are incorrect Okay. Oh wait, did I not give grumbo their points? I'm sorry Wait, I'm not sure. I need them. I think you're supposed to be giving clean points not grumbo My bad Yeah I got you Okay, uh, yeah, so that's incorrect, which means Clean you got your time to shine here potentially The pasteurization man. I've got I've got no clue. I like everything's pasteurized But I don't know what that means for this I just like I legitimately have no clue. I'm not even gonna try and rationalize it. Let's let's choose the 90s then 90 to 100 90 to 100 is blocking in Yep, you are correct. Yeah He sits at a comfy 90 That seems suitable Look at him go All right. Well, I guess team fleam you're up on the next Which is Vasco de gamma Explorer Okay, wouldn't expect him on this list over some of the others Hmm Do you reckon that he's like the 97? For this one or Oh, I guess there's not here Uh, man, I I like I don't know I feel like he's the I feel like he's the 97 Well, no, it's just to me. It's just like covering the maximum amount of blacks. Uh, what's what readers name out again? Vasco de gamma What dad? Oh, um What do you do you have a perspective on this one? This is not someone I know or at least not that I'm aware of knowing so Wait, wasn't some Was it not team fleam's turn or did I get that wrong? Didn't team fleam go First that time. I don't feel like we got a chance on that last one. Did we Uh chat, what are you memories? Because I can't remember Yeah, I don't think we even tried that one. Did we did we Did you know? No, we guessed it in one shot Did we? Yeah, the 90 the high 90s Yeah No It was nine. It was in the it was pretty, um, like go down. I can't remember exactly was 90 Yeah, oh the chat is saying you did try Did we? Okay, uh, all right. Is it fleam's turn then? All right Okay, okay. All right. Well, that happened Well, we're we're all uh on fumes now. Okay, we're at the end of the end game now It's a lot of brain power. Get through this. This is an explorer, right? Yes. Vasco de java Gamma, yeah, sure. Sure Okay, so change our answer Explorers have been disproportionately weighted high in this so I'm gonna guess in the 40s Yeah, I go with that Yeah, um, if they're on the list, they're probably high. Yeah. Yeah, I Sure, why not? I wouldn't think that he'd be lower I guess we'll see I guess we'll see. Yeah Going with the 40s. All right. You are correct. He's at 46. It's crazy. Whoo See this list does have its own logic In theory, I'm not convinced It definitely I've tried All right, team grumbau, where is the astronomer kepler? Kepler again Damn, okay. Do you feel like he's evidence? I think uh, wait, we can we can hedge our bets and hit He kind of heads a little bit more from 79 to 85 the question is do you think he has a chance? I don't feel like 41. I feel like that's too high But I feel like 71. I feel like that's I think we just have to hit the most black boxes at this point Because yeah, we went 79 to 85 Oh Yeah Yeah Yeah, okay. There's no one in three Which then gives us one in two 75 to 85. Is that what we're doing? Yep. Yeah, you are wrong fuck Shit, okay. All right team fleam. You've got three options Okay, you guys chose that 70s high 90s At block of three, right? Okay. Yeah. Yeah, they took that one there Uh, I think kepler's probably 71 If I would guess I guess He's too famous to be 97 and he's not famous enough to be 43 I think I don't fucking know. I don't I don't know. I'm not 71 or 79 Any of this 71 no, they chose 79 83. Yeah 79 83 and 85 are out Oh, shit. I I guess I'd go with 71 that would be mine if I If that that's what I would guess I suppose Yeah, yeah, all right locking in in the middle incorrect Okay, so I alone. I think hi Do you reckon it's 43? I want to go for 43 Okay, let's try 43 Logging in 43. You are incorrect He is the mystical 97 which obviously just 97 kepler's 97 that goes to fleam Oh my god, we're catching up You have made some progress That's 90 bit. I got a chance. Yep. Um, okay. Well, I guess, uh, wait who started with that one. Was it grumbo? I think it was grumbo. Yeah, so it'd be fleam starts with uh, why don't we try John the Baptist Let me ask this though. There's only five spots left. Should we narrow the search range? Oh to like individual slots we could do because because there's only three options right now Yeah, well to make it fair one more turn start for fleam with the the fives because The way it goes goes grumbo fleam grumbo fleam grumbo fleam. So One more for fleam with the fives and then we'll go to sudden sudden death individual blocks Well, the biggest block then is 79 to 85. That's the last remaining large block. Let's do that And what's the what who is it? No, it doesn't matter. Yeah, go with it On the Baptist you are correct big John. He sits at 85 My god now it's gonna be sweaty in there just a little bit Coming in with some sweat here 74 Okay, so it'll be grumbo's turn and now you have to guess the individual block to be correct We shall start with solomon the religious figure God, there's a lot of figures. Wow. There's way more biblical figures, and I think the biblical figures tend to be weighted quite Mids of the pack. I think John the Baptist just showed up at 85. So it's making me wonder John the Baptist isn't gonna mean too much to Like well, if you take like Abraham is really high, but he's the the Abrahamic religion So he applies to the big three or at least three two of the big So sure, but in John the Baptist wouldn't be as much to two of them either or I'm sort of one of them, but I get all that. I'm thinking I I don't know. I'm not thinking 43 I'm thinking 71 I'm thinking 71 too Let's uh, let's go for 71. Yeah, 71 You are choosing 71. Are you sure? Yes, you are correct Yeah Boom Solomon at 71 nice I think now the only way The team fleem to win is to get all three of these I have to win all three of these that would be pretty intense to be fair but I think The last two right like it's just you get an automatic Thousand points because you'd get the other one in theory. No way that we'll figure that out when we get to it um, all right so Yeah, that was grumbo. So it's fleems Oh, wait, wait, I'm just thinking like wait, so that that just means that they will get 500 points just by default On that last one potentially One of the teams will one of the teams will Wait, no, hold on. I'm just I'm trying so team fleems going now Yeah, they will because the way that we be doing it is regardless of you know, the back and forth We'd be going in a specific order So it'll be team fleem and then there'll be two left and then we'll get that and then they'll just automatically get the last one Like they'll just get 500 points. Do you know what I mean? Well, so If you have some Do you should you add in some fake ones and there's an option that it's not on the on the board? Just shuffle the list and we could Martha in to say it Well, that one only works if there's a risk of getting it wrong and the problem is I'm not I'm not in the best position to create fake ones. Like, um, mine might be way too obviously fake if you know what I mean Uh So we could mr. Beast We could go the Martha way and we could make it the two One-toon Yeah, we could have Martha and then we guess like if you say who the figure is then we say Martha and then we guess where they sit Is that do you know what I mean? Because we're gonna be going down to the last one. There's going to be one slot and one name Oh, yeah, that's that's true. That's true. Right I don't know how you gamify that in any way There is a chance that it doesn't matter. So is it worth crossing that bridge when we come to it or As in just start up team fleam's turn and uh, see what they can do Because if we get if we get any of these then Yeah, it might not even Yeah, let's wait till we get to that point and figure it out. I guess because we might not even get there Okay, well, uh, like I said, we could start up team fleam's turn that I suppose Okay So, uh As when I say this name, it means that he's definitely on the list. You just got to guess where so uh I I mean, I mean, you know, just hey rags, uh Jay gravara, where do you think he is? insane, there's no fucking way yes Wow, you guys Yeah, I've been holding on to this one because I saw you accidentally drag him out. Oh, you felt guilty about it I guess. Yeah, I didn't want to I didn't want to know no chairman now Fucking way, but there's 43 like this high is possible. Just fuck it like that's Yeah, I said that like a thousand years ago and everyone's like, fuck you. No, jay. No, jay for you Put it for you as a pure retard pick. Just the right stupidly high. Why not anything's possible clearly Okay, fine. 43 I'm sure you're locking in 43 just checking the highest one. All right, you are correct Oh my god No, it's based it's based solely on t-shirt sales I guess I guess you could just do a coin flip on this on this. We'll see who it is Yeah, who's who's our last uh, who's the last guy? Well, we've got two last guys, right? Uh But what are we how do we oh so the idea being that I guess whichever team this does go to grumbo technically Funnily enough, we've completed like everyone's had the same amount of turns now So I was wondering if there's any way we can sort of give a final game to this somehow Um I don't know both you have to give it. Can you can you give us like clues and we have to buzz in to guess who it is? Or I guess this is the problem that I'm getting at the last guy is just automatic So this has to be like the last question doesn't it? Yeah, if you could come up with such the you know Oh, I guess you're right like you can go to their wikipedia's and like give us clues and we have to guess Are we gonna we just gonna play hangman? I don't I don't think These ones I'm not 100% sure you guys will guess them until give a decent amount of clues and stuff Like I could even give you professions and I'm not sure it would give us them. All right Um, but yeah to make it easy. We could just make it it's team grumbos turn and I give them a name They choose one of the two options if they're right they win if they're wrong Well, that's an automatic win for flea. Yeah, well that we couldn't I know no no like logistically you would win. Yeah logistically they would win like that's just how it would go Okay Okay, wow, the pressure is on the whole thing is gonna get thrown off because of a difference of four in a list That's bizarre. Damn. All right. I was gonna say I'm not even sure you'll The 79 a3 is like well, but I will give you one of the names Okay So I assume it's pronounced. He's a mathematician. Karl Friedrich Gauss Gauss Gauss Oh my god, he's on the list Well team grumbos is Gauss Gauss Okay, I mean, I don't I don't know what it means to make a choice between when there's like Actually, I have an idea. I have an idea. I'm all are give them both names Okay. Yeah, I guess that doesn't really make any difference, right? Yeah, and they have to get them vote. They have to get them correct to Well, if I get if we get one right, right, that's it. Yeah, well, basically giving him the second name will help him out with the first name Because he has they have more context. Maybe I I mean So I'll I'll be completely honest with you It could be any name ever and it wouldn't change anything. I don't think like it You know, I mean like there's technically being this list to place them. Anyway, the the second name is uh Is it Hippocrates the physician or Hippocrates? Oh my gosh. That's another one Um I want to say Hippocrates 79 and I'd be tempted to put Hippocrates. Yeah, I'd be tempted to put him above I feel like he's gotta be more. Yeah, let's lock it in Hippocrates 79 and Gauss 83 Out of um, yeah, put it in god's hands. I have them underneath the pattern Let's have the that's locked in for sure. I'm just curious uh team fleam. Would you have any different guests to that? And don't do the opposite just for the sake of it like what would your guest be if you do think I I would rate Hippocrates above Gauss Yeah, what's amazing is that going through my head Gauss is literally a fucking name. I passed over There's no way he could possibly be right. I told myself There's no way that he could you know be above that Can you mention Jimmy Carter again now? I don't know Yeah Yeah, I feel like it's gotta be just the hippo trying to go with right like as a as a concept Yeah, so we got him at 79 and the other guy at 83. I can tell you you are correct Yeah Let's go grumble and just for the sake of the the math of it is like yeah There's a the fleam would get the next one obviously, but that pushes the final scores to what they are Wait a minute. Yes Someone said rags cheated. He saw shea and like I don't know what that means I saw Rags rags is the highest advocate of getting rid of shea For what it's worth. I thought he was at 25 so I'm just done on that one Grumbo was jumbo is jumbo and will always be jumbo. This was indeed the list Uh, there you go grumbos I'm shocked at like How familiar we're both you guys were with like most of this list This was a history white her story Uh, particularly you and theo. It just felt like you knew like almost every single person that was mentioned Um, I well, there's a few people here that I didn't uh, I'm not sure. Yeah I feel like I don't think I could say much about but when Between the um achievements and like wide but shallow reading I've heard of between the six of you did really really well Like uh, in terms of because it's difficult to guess a lot of these for the average person I think and so just because I guess it might be worthwhile to list off people who didn't make the list So george washington abraham lincoln Confucius isn't on this list either, right? Um, didn't come yes. Yes Oh, okay. Nancy wasn't on the list. Uh, no sun suit. No I'll give you my list. I've got a I've copied and pasted my list here of nobody gets after After an incredible amount of refinement whatever that means in this game That's my that's my list of maybes and none of those people are on there. So Who knows? Yep What about us long bad? Of course chat. You were guessing plenty of great I had shaka zulu on my list. He wasn't going to be on there though It's um, I guess it's uh, it's yeah, it's just that there's a lot of no diogenes. He was he was probably never gonna He's probably never gonna make this list I'm like I said, I am still and will always be back with the george washington's not on here Yeah, that one boy is my way as a reminder for my reading of the the way they do this It's literally just every mention of any of these names across all pages on wikipedia's like collected and numbered That's to be fair. I think I think jefferson wrote more than washington. Which is why he's on there Yeah, jefferson is probably of all the early presidents. I would probably put jefferson as the top one to be referenced Yeah, I guess because I was he was into architecture and invention stuff and he was a big writer and he is a big You know the constitution was he he's the he did all sorts of stuff. He was all sorts of things He's like the benjamin franklin sort of he's just in all sorts of stuff Because a lot of people are saying like, you know for a famous people list It's kind of dumb as like it really wasn't a famous people list. That's not that wasn't the point of this No Which one made it almost more difficult. Um, obviously to concoct one of those lists I don't know if there's like any kind of material thing that was made But like this interested me as a uh the particularities of the fact that they were like The highest mentioned. There was there's still baffling ones in here, though Like, um, you just don't but the thing is it's made a lack of a better tomb Just without any bias as far as I know they give you the map and what they did This is like the frustrating annoying thing about family feud where it feels like there's an answer that is more correct But it doesn't matter because the metric isn't like the most correct answer. It's it's some other metric. It's like aggregate Yeah, um, yeah, which I Which I guess in that case it's like, oh, so che Guevara shows up more often Like on wikipedia than thomas jefferson. It's like, oh Yeah, as a linked like name that takes you like I guess it is I assume. That's what that means. Um, I guess so. Yeah, and that's just wild I like that's that's insane Well, I mean rags is worth remembering that at the beginning of the game, we were really struggling Yeah, you guys are minus Team grumble was really struggling. I was talking shit and then it just came back. You had a lead. You had a lead We had a Really cool in the international exchange, you know, then you ate that tricky grumble Like he was like spinach to paul byer there you off And it was me that led the team to victory Rich rumbos. I was really the glue that held the team together. You know, what would you say is the uh, the most baffling One on this list The problem is I don't know if jimmy kardo jimmy be baffling Maybe it like if it's based on the notion of how often he pops up in wikipedia like I don't really know that much about jimmy kardo That's kind of the reason why I was baffled. He just seemed like such a uh Maybe he's the perfect age for like being You know, he goes back in history decent amount and he's still involved in shit today At least so like enough to be named I I guess so. Um, yeah, I'm not sure. I mean then again, he's he's had like a really long career I know that much and that he's done like a lot of he's done a lot of like activism and uh, and like, uh Non-profit stuff and all of that afterward Which maybe maybe that's like the stuff that also when you add that because I think he's he's still alive And I think he's in his late 90s, right? so maybe that I think Putin is up there for most like Surprising it's a very recent controversy his name would show up a lot in articles. I don't know I guess but like still I mean it's so And then it's just um placement as well. I guess Kissinger over Yeah, for reference we understand why We understand how these people show up in a lot of different ways. It's just that more than others is the thing Yeah, yeah, I guess There's a few other people you think would be there. It's just and there's a lot of people I think new number two is a really interesting one because in a certain sense It's like, yeah, but still over jesus for the jesus. Yeah, that's surprising That's I think um, and I find it fair as well. If if you were told there's only one musician on this list I probably would have guessed Elvis and Michael Jackson before Freddie. Oh, you mean like one mod in musician, right? Because there's lots of oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Sorry of that Uh, yeah, you know, I mean I would have told this. Yeah, I would have thought I can't believe you beat out Elvis and Michael Jackson one of those Um, I'm just sort of skimming through this list as well in terms of I guess uh It's it's it's there's a lot of uh, there's a lot of greek and roman figures on the list Which makes sense really doesn't it? In a lot of ways, like the Aristotle of number six. Yeah, makes makes a lot of sense makes it makes me kind of like It's kind of crazy that Euclid didn't make it on in that context So Muhammad Ali is like one of the only yeah, what do you want? So when you were getting the uh, the fake ones Is there like, uh 100 to 200 version of this list you're pulling them from? Uh, funnily enough. No, I went with what was in my head and then I googled a couple of like most famous and then did a uh, like like careers and stuff Okay, all right, but that probably would have been a smarter thing to do That would have made way more sense Um, there's a little wait I'm just I'm just thinking as well about these. There's a lot of yeah, so there was a big skew towards philosophers A lot of philosophers. Yeah, I'm very surprised by the presence of philosophy on this list Like yeah, a lot of philosophers and scientists often skewed the high as well In terms of where they were chopped to a lot of astronomers too Wow Aristotle making top 10 makes complete sense. He's like The father of western academia. Yeah, I can understand him being referenced in every page to do with philosophy. Yeah But even beyond philosophy, he's very underpinning even in terms of the sciences in some cases Even if he was, you know, really wrong, but what can you do? Um, but Plato and Socrates then because they are much more narrowly Philosophical in terms of their usefulness going forward as it were My guess though was Socrates would probably just be because it's there's often that divide right of pre-socratic and then Right like that. He's kind of often pointed to as a dividing line And plus he would have been reference like there'd be a lot of references linking back to him through like Aristotle and Plato Anyway, even though Socrates didn't write anything, right? It didn't like actually write anything. He just had conversations with people It may just be the the networking and philosophy that's um making it work because that makes sense because it blends in all the time Yeah, they're constantly signing each other. It's a continual development as late as Nietzsche. He's still calling directly back to Plato So Nietzsche at 82, you know, yeah, that's fucked up. Maybe he's just too late Yeah, but like, I don't know. Is that is that actually even maybe I don't know give me an attitude. Is that fucking 63? Fucking Christ Yeah, I don't know. It's such a what a what a fascinating adventure In the first few tests like the name Trump was tossed around But I think you guys threw him out as soon as it was like, no, it's just you have to go way further back Yeah, I think I think that's what happened was the realization is damn the the older the further back you can go the better Um any anybody in the 19th century onward like 19th century, you're probably okay 20th century is a gamble Yeah, it's so obvious. You can't trust anything from the 20th century on that anything 18th century before that It's like, all right, you're getting into safer territory at this point Oh, it's here like 17th century in back. You are like rocks solid your your person's probably on there Every person you could think of from Greece and Rome that oh, though, how do you still feel rags about uh, Constantine not being on the list. I just I just think it's wild I would have I would have said especially with all the religious stuff that's happening that he'd be referenced a great deal. Um Uh, because I was thinking I mean, let's see. I mean paul was pretty low. He was down at Uh, paul was wasn't he he was uh in the 60s. Was he where was uh, where was oh paul was 60? Yeah, 60. Yeah, I I Yeah, a lot of biblical names in here like Solomon um King david was in here, uh I've uh I was just gonna say I've got a little bit of fun as a round that would take You know, it wouldn't be very long because there's only a few you guys can guess between you I I would imagine maybe I'm wrong but uh, we can still use the teams as well and uh I was gonna say it's kind of fun because they have this list on there as well And I think this one it was still surprise. But uh, anyway, it's got a top 50 most popular youtubers or at least most referenced We won't do the same thing. Just throw out in teams You know guests is obviously first team. I have a map. I imagine I know who who's But uh, yeah, I mean it's Well, who's la who went last was it flim? Uh Well flame got the point last but we we actually went lost, you know So team flim they could they could go first. All right. Let team flim start first. This is a list Is the streamers or creators more broadly just it's only references youtubers So it's kind of hard to say exactly but I imagine most of the ones you're thinking of will show up Well, um, whatever your answer, um, I guess 500 points. I'm trying to think of Well, it doesn't really matter. Well, it said it's a bonus round. Okay Well, yeah, actually by that logic, I'll just reset everyone to zero right and we can go Yeah, let's reset to zero. We we won. Yeah, they won. They won. That's a good job. You guys good job team grumbos Wait, wait, we can't do this and I gotta go. Well, no, I was gonna say it's like it'll be just just literally like 10 names back and forth if you wanted to it's just kind of fun to see what's in the list. That's all Okay, let's go. All right quick one All right team flim go first you got Mr. Beast. Mr. Beast So mr. Beast is on the list. He's number eight So that's I'm glad you 42 points. We'll call it. That's a different I was gonna say, yeah, beauty pie I'm surprised they were with mr. Beast first. Yeah, because beauty pie is obviously gonna be double one. I don't know I'm still okay. I'm fucking up Yeah, but No, no, no, no, it doesn't that wouldn't matter right because like beauty pie has been the most famous for so long Okay, yeah, you can raise it that way. That is true. That makes sense. All right. Now. I've exhausted my popular youtube That's it. I think I got a few more back to believe who you want to try uh linus tech tips Okay That's a huge channel. We're talking about his name is linus sabastian. Correct. Yes. Yeah He's on the list 23 Sorry, he's 27th. You get 23 points Yeah, right. Um, wait, I do have one more Uh, well, yeah, but is it is a real big one? I think so He was for once upon a time. I don't know if he probably still is Uh, well, I I know who I was gonna guess next and I think it's a pretty safe one. Okay, go ahead It's marker player. Yeah, that is another good choice He is 20th. You get 30 points Yeah All right flim Big youtubers that would be on the list. Is it long long term popularity or is it just numbers again? Is it specifically who gets mentioned a lot? Yeah, it would be like most referenced across the internet collectively But it's gonna line up a lot with most subs as well Come on. It's probably sargon's probably on there. I was gonna say joe rogan He gets so much It's no way No way that sargon's on that list. We're talking as bigger than him. They're really normie like Man, we're talking Because they're all in my head, okay How many times have you seen the yukip rape man headline get thrown around? If you want to choose sargon Don't want to choose Absolutely not What do you think joe rogan is too early or what do you think joe rogan is actually a pretty good choice? Yeah, yeah Jerry yeah power for jerry So, uh, just joe rogan have a surname that i'm oh Joseph rogan there we go The thing about it is right. He's not on the list His name is Powerful jre would be the podcast name so you can check it out if they're gone by youtube channels. Yeah, that would be the next What what i was asking is like is this about the name or surname he goes by but my guess would be That joe rogan's not on the list because he's not considered a youtuber. My guess would be that he'd be considered Something different than that Hollywood first. Yeah, he was yeah, exactly move over in a butterfly now I don't know if that factors in but in terms of popularity like who actually gets mentioned Um, if you were talking popularity of people on the youtube platform sure, but I get the impression this list wouldn't consider him a youtuber I don't think it would consider him that You know Well, he's not on there either way jacksepticeye damn But you're on his team for it. Yeah Yeah, like I'm I had an ad when I wanted to get out there. Oh, well, I guess we'll go with that. Okay. He's on there. So good job And uh 20 he's 24. So 26 points. Okay, cool Oh, man, oh boy I go I mean, I I don't actually I think I know that many like super normal famous youtubers off the top of my head Rich it would be Unboxing videos that little rich kid. What would it be? Daily review or something like that or I can't remember. I don't think it'd be that. Um Would it be like what's the biggest what's the Uh mark uh mark is marcus brownlee. Is that his name? Uh mkbhd. Well, I think I think his channel is that's oh, wait, wait, wait, wait. Oh, hold on doctor disrespect. How about him? No, no, he says Oh, no, he's a youtube, isn't he? He's more of a twitch guy, right? Yeah, some of the ones I'm thinking over twitch But that's not really the question here, right like to youtube specifically, right? I know you're talking about us jimmy second. What was this fucking name? It did wait are we not going is marcus brownlee not a good you don't think Isn't he a huge tech channel? Yes, he's huge Who I don't even know if there's another tech channel that's bigger than him No, I don't think so. Uh, I don't only be Linus as a competition. I imagine All right, um Yeah, let's do that one marq us. What do you guys think about logan paul though? He's wait not very highly but I don't like me there, but I'm just talking about popularity. He's big Uh, I'm afraid marcus brownlee is not on the list Really? That's what you guys are That's bizarre. Um, all right. There can't be any but linus tech tips is and by that much I that's just kind of right. Uh, would be very shocked if this individual wasn't on that ryan hega Yeah, that's one Yes Uh, yeah, that's not surprising. He's what I mean. You got you got to think a lot more about like old school like og Uh youtubers, that's that's what you need to start picking up if we're going og Angry video game nerd, baby Ha ha i'm kind of glad you guessed that because I feel like he might not be that high on that list honestly James rolf is the name but I feel like he's got to be on there, right? He's the james nintendo nerd Yeah, this is what I mean. Yeah, you got it. You got it. You got to go. So i'm gonna say smosh Interesting They've got to be on there, right? Well, the problem is is it one of the names I search by because smosh doesn't show up I think it's like ian and anthony. I don't know what their last names are but uh, it's ian Something and anthony is the other one ian anthony and uh, smosh don't show up So I assume they're not on the list, but they really smosh should be from what I understand Smosh ought to be on that list for sure. Yeah, okay. All right No, okay, uh, read that in media then No, no way. No way. No, no way. They've made so many memes. There's no way. You got you got to think To be as impartial as possible if I were playing this I would never guess them in this list. Yeah What about um, oh what drama alert? So keemstar keemstar star. Yeah, that's a better guess. Will he be on the list? Maybe Do you want to lock that in yep If they don't yeah, unless they have something else to offer in its place, but I think it's a decent one That would be a nil. He is not on the list. Uh, cheese. Okay another one philip defranco. He's got to be on there Uh, no Wow, okay. All right. I'm surprised. What's his full name? Like actually human name. His name is philip defranco What's his name? Well, yeah, no Okay, all right. Well, yeah That's surprising honestly, uh, idubbs, maybe Idubbs on there Uh, no Uh, what about uh, hey, I'm pretty sure I hasn't been on youtube for a long time But I wonder if he might just be in there ray william johnson. Oh my goodness Oh my gosh He is not jesus. Wow. Really? Okay. Wow. Yeah, there you go Wow I thought those last three were like for sure gonna end up on there. Well, there is I'm surprised. There's one name It's not been said yet The prize that no one said it Um as a clue one of the most controversial youtubers ever Is this a decent or is this fleam? Well, yeah, it's fleam's turn right? Go fleam. You can do it Most controversial youtuber I mean, uh, jake and logan paul, I guess What I just said That's what wait, did you actually guess them or did we? Yeah, logan paul was my guess or at least one of the paul brothers because I just know they're very famous Well, you can only guess one Well, they kind of put these guys together Aren't they like like a joint act? No, well, no, okay All right, uh, let's let us know more famous. I don't know I think they're both kind of famous But jakes more famous now. Yeah. Oh, okay. Yeah, so we're going with jake paul Let's go with jake correct 16 Uh Was that it meant to be controversial one or is it someone else? Uh, I guess I won't confirm until okay I have one, but I'm not sure if it's a legal guess. I guess. I don't know machinima.com entertainment To make it absolutely clear I figured all of you would have picked it up But I said they could not guess both paul brothers at once Yeah, so it can't be an organization then. No, that's not that's not what I'm trying to say All right, so you're voting logan paul then I was gonna say it just feels fair that you should know you probably guessed that. Uh, by the way, number two Yeah, yeah, see I figured logan paul is way more popular than jake paul, right? Okay, okay. I think I got one then if those are in there. Is it our turn flim? Yes, yeah, uh, ksi probably should be in the mix if those guys are there. Oh, yeah He's a good guess. He's at number 22 a boom Uh, I am thinking so the problem is like I'm thinking of like vsauce, but now I'm wondering if vsauce would count um You know because because it's obviously the vsauce guy, right? But like vsauce is an organization Well, I mean, but is vsauce like a valid choice? If you want me to I'll if vsauce is here or if michael stevens, which is his name, right? Would be here either one of them then it would count they wouldn't have both Okay, so I'm guessing vsauce michael correct 32. Yep, which is 28 points. Nice Is there like um like a sports thing like an espn or nba channel that's official that has I feel like wait, so I thought because t-series didn't count right so organizations are not oh, it's I don't like part of it Looking at this list. It's all individuals names except maybe one, but it could just be because I don't know this person all right I don't know. This is just not my I don't actually know I throw it This is what I don't think anyone would have guessed poll joseph watson is in here What really he's number 26 Okay, so does that for the reason that I said sargon would have been on there because he just has lots of controversy around him I I still don't think I would have thought there'd be so many people that would make it in Before him for controversy, so I'm guessing tim pools not on the list then um Make sure No, I don't think so Okay, that's that's bizarre right Maybe if the list were constructed in 10 years from now he'd be on euro something because it seems it does dip Like so to give you a guy's example. There was a chance you would guess this but I'm also not sure you would angry grandpas number five I have no idea who it is. He's a he's an old internet classic that man So That's what I mean. This is like I guess waited just like the list that we went through and primarily like it's got a lot of history in it Who's who's turn is that? Um, well, we've mostly guessed I think the ones you guys are probably gonna guess we can probably I don't even know What other guesses I could really make I just I was gonna I was wondering if fred if fred was in the mix. No fred Alex jim that is Fred is not in the list, but I really would have thought I really would have thought well It's been a long time before we before we give it up. Uh, filthy frank I would not have guessed he was in here and I don't think he is no, no, Alex jim What about uh Moist moist critical is he on there? I wonder if he's more of considered a twitch guy even though he's now moving over to youtube Yeah, wait is his name Is his name charlie mcdonnell I don't know what is it's charlie something. I don't know his last name Well, if his name is charlie mcdonnell, he's on you I know it's charlie something Yeah I mean he's called a big youtube channel Well, isn't it youtube channel is penguins or something. I'm pretty sure yeah penguin zero with a z in it No, some people saying it's charlie white is his name. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, so I don't know who charlie mcdonnell is No, he's only my my thinking for this list is basically for them to be there They'd need to have like five million plus subscribers That was my thinking. Well, so uh, but one I would never have expected to be on you but recognize his contra points Okay, uh, that seems strange. I don't know. I feel like she's still like more niche You know, I didn't realize that's not in the way. You know, like pewdiepie and fucking logan paul and stuff That makes way more sense. Obviously a big channel, but I I figured it would be like people who are, you know, like five million Plus that was kind of my thinking Oh, yeah, like your pewdie pies and markiplies and those types of guys like really mainstream Um, I don't have I'm not even sure if you should be but dream is on here I thought dream was is he not a streamer more so than a youtuber so to speak What am I wrong about that channel, right? It's really what does he do? I have no idea. I don't know Like john minecraft, I guess yeah, just minecraft man, but um That's almost it for ones that At least I have familiarity with some of these names. I vaguely recognize but that's about it Uh, would you say leafy leafy is here? No Um, well, I figure um, I can just post the list you guys the little dash is only because of they're just mentioned ones already Um Oh, okay Remi gillard He's number three Huh, okay who's I don't know if he's still make stuff and I remember he did like prank videos before prank videos was uh, kind of like I don't have any of these names. I recognize if I know I'm with you Yeah, josh pack from drake and josh All right, all right Some of these Sorry, some of these are crazy honestly actually looking through these Wait, I recognize is that 3.53 million subscribers Well, wait, hold up. Hold up josh pack five days ago 9,000 this what I mean. So like 13 brian decart I'm pretty sure he's like one of the actors in the fucking detroit become human like that Page game these lists apparently constructed from references made to these people across all of wikipedia's I I'm just like I Pewdiepie is number one. It's like makes sense logan poll number two sure, but then you get some other ones and you're like, wait a minute Yeah 12 is a guy who can't make 10,000 views on a video. Um Well, I mean If buggy were on this list, I could buy it, but you know, I could buy buggy being on this list Even though these are koshi. Well, you see 17 million subscribers. I've never heard of this person Lily sing right? She's the one who was a youtuber then decided to do like a late night talk show and it didn't pan out, right? Uh, I think so. Yeah, I think sorry. Yeah, I'm sorry. Yeah Uh, it says she's in there. Yeah on the list Um, oh, yeah jenna marvels that one. Yeah, that was yeah That's a lot of these names are people who got like not just good viewership But also involved in like sponsorships to a significant degree and like mainstream to an extent Yeah, yeah, yeah, I well that's kind of the nature of you getting it's based on Wikipedia. That's kind of yeah Yeah, that's kind of interesting because it can skew in a jake of sartorius. I recognize Number so number seven. He's a Belarusian Uh opposition leader who was just sentenced to 18 years in prison. Whoa. I don't think he he doesn't have a youtube He doesn't do youtube He's not he's not even on youtube Like there's no one by that name. It could be that this list is unrefined in the sense that if they've qualified as youtube For whatever their metrics is it then just looks at their popularity in terms of references made and it's like Oh, this is a really popular youtuber, even though they might not be at all Because some of these things are weird in terms of choices. Yeah, this doesn't make yeah I don't see how this guy could possibly be number seven Because even the stuff that even all of the videos about him are really low views Like they're all sub Yeah, I don't even think one of them reaches 10,000 I'm just looking at this list. It's like, yeah, I guess maybe yeah I mean, yeah, that's number one makes a lot of sense to me even if he's not necessarily number one anymore Is mr. Base more popular than him now? Does he have more subscribers now? Did jimmy kata make the youtube list? He would automatically get really high on this list He would yeah, that's that's part of that. That's why josh pack is on there probably And then he just makes one video about what is the number 10 is pat cundell Pat cundell is 338,000 subs 12 days ago He made a video called goodbye to youtube. Oh So I guess he seems to be an old man. Um I like pat robinson You know 300 like what was it 350,000 subscribers how they could end up at number 10 You know on your list of you. Yeah, I don't yeah, I guess they've just been around so long Like this guy clearly has been around. I don't know again. I guess it is just the referenced on wikipedia make tutorials That is a channel with 14.3 million. So I guess oh my god. What the fuck am I looking at? This is a bizarre creature I was gonna say yeah, I don't know in any case that was the game In totality Did you guys enjoy it enough you might want to play it again sometime with the obvious being fictional characters? Yep. Yes. Yes. Yes. Absolutely That's the hardest thing is the reason I tested it out with real people was I was like the fictional characters one It's obviously gonna be the one everyone wants to play I imagine So the thing about it is I don't know how to construct that one because I don't I don't Even if there was a metric, you know, let's pretend for a second this this website Which it doesn't did it for fictional characters and it it was similar to this. I'd almost want to edit it myself Because I'd be like I could but then I have to explain every one of my decisions Why the fuck did you put Batman above beta? I could take a top 100 fictional characters of all-time lists and aggregate them all maybe Though that would take a while Yeah, like if I took 20 of them and then you know based on where everybody's sitting like Han Solo or whoever Is number one the number five number 20 number three number six, and then I average them all out Yeah, I mean I see potential. I see potential in the format is the point Well, that's that's good news because this wasn't the easiest thing to set up Okay, can we get a round of applause from all of the throwing this all together? Tough to figure out Yeah, that's crazy. That was good. Thanks. That's nice. Um, anyway Hopefully it was fun to watch and get vaguely invested in despite the many disappointments as to who is didn't make it to the list Um, and the placements, especially shaker vera It was funny hearing how much he couldn't possibly be on the list alongside the fact that I'd flashed him As well by accident. So it's just like I know all of chat knows that he's on the list as well Um Yeah, the the website I got this from is called pantheon I think calm and it uh, it just collects data on all kinds of different things and then it aggregates it all out And you can rank by um All kinds of different things. It's like a fun little data site You can just mess around with all of it and obviously that was the the ranking list I was super interested in trying to make a game out of it In any case, I know many of you would like to run away to all kinds of different things It's involving life. So before you do that, I think we'll uh, we'll just exit everybody out We'll start with dev because I believe he really really really wanted to go. Um, why don't you tell everybody what you're up to Before you leave. I'm too. I'm I'm two hours late. So it doesn't matter anymore You did it because you liked the game, didn't you? No, I was I was gonna do a stream today, but I'm just gonna postpone until tomorrow night It's not a big deal. Wow. So I'll just do that. That's how invested you were. Okay That's the that's the biggest compliment of the night. I'd say so. Thank you, but uh Yeah, why should people sub to you dev? Tell them Uh, you shouldn't Dang Okay, all right, but if you do I'd appreciate it, but you shouldn't Okay, well Why don't we do a crazy fun one next being theo? What's uh, what's going on there? You gotta okay videos or Since last we spoke e-fap chat. I am a youtuber now That there's two videos on my channel. Okay. Go and have a look if you're interested in video game analysis All right. Well, well I gotta start somewhere to come Incredible, um, yeah, I I'd highly recommend the videos. They're very very interesting And it's just it's just so wonderful. It's been like five and a half years and theos finally decided to make a video two videos Maybe even more on the horizon. It's incredible Who knows what'll happen next? Maybe the apocalypse scripting for the third one is currently in the redrafting phase. There you go Link in description to both dev and theo next up. Let's just say john. What are you up to? What are you making my good man? John Graham on youtube people know me for arby and the chief. I'd stream sometimes I do sarcastic reviews I'm writing a halloween special, but uh Fucking lost the entire script to the cloud or something. So I got a Luckily, I remember all the beats are in my head. So I just have to rewrite it all out. So Anyway, yeah, John Graham on youtube. There you go All right, cool stuff. That's the plug And mr. Brooks. How about you? I'm currently working on a big-ass marble video It's probably gonna be like a new format like top fives But I wanted to be like, you know decently long form and just going through like the top five worst Like ruined marble characters over the last two years in just in full detail. That's a lot Yeah, yeah each one we could have done a top 100 ruined I know I know it's crazy. There's so many like autoreal mentions. There's so many like, um, I'm trying to make it as As accurate and fair as possible like I want it to be at least some less and tomorrow I should hopefully be doing a small podcast with the uninspired reviewer and mark the cyborg Just breaking down the first episode of the walking dead. I, um Love zombies love anything horror related and I I really love that first pilot episode the rest of the show Yeah, but yeah Jedi Brooks. You can always catch me there. Awesome Hmm I've also been made aware of this Which uh, what an image I want to best The astronome himself The astronome in the flesh There he is The beautiful bail in original I uh You just want to run up to him and ask him what he's doing. What are you up to there? So many Jimmy Carter memes You can imagine Uh rags friggy anything you guys want to let the people know about? No, I've got things that I've got sort of lined up I'll get to him when I can get to them. Um dealing with you know all the stuff I'm dealing with but I do have things that are kind of in a lineup So maybe something will come of that shortly, but I don't know Um Presently I'm working on e-fap tv for Loki. So that's what I'm doing right now I am working on tooling away on the e-fap movies arc that'll come out all of 2024 Just correcting it. It's a copyright nightmare As you may have been able to tell from the sore e-fap movies that have been piling out the copyright protection on them has been extreme and insane Um But obviously it's for the best because it gets you to the point where you can see them For those who don't know there are seven sore movies in the form of e-fap movies that have been released on the movie channel across Halloween I will say It's because of that as well as the isoker episodes and the Loki episodes that we just reduced amount of Mainline episodes have been happening, but I thought this would be fun To do you know, it's a bit different from video response But it's also a bit different from anything else we've also done and might just get a sequel at some point What we're going to say was yes, uh next week on saturday, you're going to get the uh The montage cut or you know big edit of isoker with the all the episodes at once video is going to stream on mula while Myself rags and fringy going to be recording something rather special. I would say they don't even know what i'm talking about I'm going to tell them about it as soon as the stream's over Oh, god But that saturday will be take it up And uh, yeah, it's going to be big fun and when it comes out that thing which will be this year Hopefully yeah, no, yeah, definitely actually the whole point of it is to come out this year Uh, it'll be very fun. You guys will love it. Uh in any case. Yeah, that about ramps it up. So Um, yeah, I don't know. Thank you guys so much for uh checking out the the episode this time around Supporting it was it was a bit of a change a bit of a different one, but you seem to have fun with it That's always nice. We will get to the stupid chats myself rags and fringy is still doing the catch-ups They'll come out semi-regularly among all the rest of the stuff the moola channel has been stuffed this month just Piling out and the funny thing is I've still got to finish lords of the fall and then stream Alan wake one control alan wake two and amnesia the bunker That is still the plan that i'm supposed to complete that before the end of this month Oh my god. Good luck. Yeah a little bit. Um Are you playing the um the alan wake remake? The remaster yeah remaster on ps5. I think Yeah, yeah, I played the original on 360 back in the day. I really liked it, but I know 15 years I've played alan wake a few times. Um, I mean, it's not like I'd say it's a great game, but I very much enjoy it Uh, I'm a big twin peaks fan. So I like alan wake. Yeah, it's it's a I think it's a really fun style and format that game But uh, I think it's worth everybody checking it out at some point just to see what they do with it There's cringe, but it's fun cringe. Also There's one more thing Colombo Love it. Thank you so much Thank you colombo for discovering So yeah, um on that note, I'd say we'd say good night everybody. Thank you so much for watching and we'll see you next time Bye Bye everyone toodaloo You