 We wondered if we could talk to you about what the organization does. We see you all the time but we really don't know. Well you know nobody's here right now. Well you're here. I know but I am about to leave the office for a meeting outside. What is your position? Can you give me a card? Yeah sure. Maybe we could meet with you really briefly before you leave. Honestly I can't even talk for two minutes. I was just about to leave. What is your position here? I'm a member of the NCRI. Oh okay and I'm sorry I forgot your name. My name is Ali. Can I have your card now? Yeah. What's your last name? We don't normally I mean I don't know you. Yeah but you represent... I know but can I have your card please? And you won't tell his name. No and I don't know why you were able to come up because you have to have an appointment before you come here. You know we've tried to make an appointment. Yeah. Who did you call? Two days ago. Whoever answers the phone we called many times. We wrote emails. It seems like you're very secretive because we can't get a meeting. We can't get a phone call. We can't even get a last name. We choose who we meet with. Well we would like to know who you are because it seems like people in our government think that you are a legitimate opposition group to take over in Iran so we would love to know more about you. You can ask the US government why they feel that way. And could we have a booklet? I see Madame Rajavi. No we cannot. Why not? It says tolerate Islam. Can I have your... Yes but why can't we get a booklet? Aren't those for the public? Well they are but I will... You can get them on the internet. It looks like they're here for giving out and why don't you want to promote your organization? Are you not proud of the work that you do? Well we are proud of what we're doing but if we want to talk to you I'll send you an email. We'd like to talk to you and we'd like to get your literature so we can learn more about who you are. You know it's very it's very confusing. Some people say you're a cult-like organization. Some say you're a terrorist group. Some say that you get Saudi money. We don't understand... I know this is all Iranian propaganda. So that's why we want to meet with you to learn. This is all Nayak and freedom policy and Iranian lobby propaganda. Well it's not just them. I tried to do my homework and learn and that's why we tried to call you. We tried to set up a meeting with you and if you won't even talk to us or give me a booklet. As I said your email is here so I'll have somebody email you. We already got we went through this already and nobody followed up with us. That's why we just came. How can you say it's just propaganda but then not be willing to tell us even what your organization does or stands for or your last name? You can go to our website. We've been there. It's very confusing and we have questions. You can go to ncearaus.org. All the information is out there. No because we'd like to hear your answer to these questions. Well it doesn't look like you're very open to the public and it seems like our government is working with you so you should be open to the public. We'd like to have a meeting with you. They must be very afraid of what your organization is about. We're actually not in your office you won't seem to allow us in. It's a private area. Do you have anything to say? I think that this organization is very secretive. This is the organization that John Bolton gets $180,000 from for speaking engagements. It's the organization that Rudy Giuliani loves and says next year in Tehran but yet they won't even answer our emails answer our phone calls or agree to meet with us. They won't even give us a booklet explaining what their organization is about. So it's very fishy. It doesn't look like a legitimate group to me.