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At the Malayalam film. And it's directed and written by Sati. Yes. Is I believe his name. Yes. And starring Biju Menon. Yeah. And Prithiraj. Prithiraj. And a couple of other people, those are your main two leads in this one. If you haven't watched this one, it's gonna be 100 cents for all of you, because it came out in 2020. So if you haven't watched it, go watch it, come back. We saw it on Amazon. We saw it on Amazon. I don't know if it's available. If you have Amazon Prime, it's free. I don't know if it's available in India. In Amazon. Sometimes those are different, but I'm sure you can find a place to watch this. But once again. And you're doing great. 100 cents for all of you, if you haven't watched it. Rick, your initial thoughts, please. I didn't like it. There you go. I don't want to, I think the best way, I wrote this down for me to, oh, by the way, if you're keeping score, 275th all time, our 68th of the year, our 26th Malayalam all time, and our sixth Malayalam of the year. One of the reasons, and I don't know if any of you would do this, but if you love film and you love cinema theory, there's a book written in 1960 by Siegfried Krakauer called Theory of Film. And it's particularly about the sub title connected to it is The Redemption of Physical Reality. And it's about realism in film and the trajectory of realism in film. And there's different schools of thought about it. And it has to do with things pertaining to the things that wouldn't happen versus things that couldn't happen. So there's a big difference between if you're watching a film and you think that wouldn't happen, there's still a possibility it could. And there's where there's a line, they may have strained credulity and you can think, well, I don't know that that would happen, but I'm not gonna say. When there's a lot of, when I see a film, unless it's hyper stylized, where I just shake my head and go that, that's just not believable for me, I disconnect. And I had a lot of that throughout, as well as other issues that I just don't want the totality of the review to be just harping on the things that I didn't like about it. So for those of you who liked it, I'm happy you liked it, I did not. Overall, I was engaged a lot of time. I had issues with it, one being the length, I do not think it needed to be three hours. At all. At all. And that's a big gripe I would have because I think one of the worst things you can do to a film is make it too long. Martin Scorsese. Yeah, but see, that's true, but I wonder, because when we see Indian films that have length. But they usually have songs and so they have breaks. True, and they also have length built in for a non-artistic reason. Scorsese has length for artistic reasons. I think it's because he has ego. Let's say it's ego, but his ego is doing it from a standpoint of this is what I want to say artistically. Quinton's got an ego. I mean, most filmmakers do, but here's the thing. I disagree with that statement of this film. It's hard to tell when a film that's coming from India is three hours long because that was the artistic choice or that was because that's what the theaters expect for their interval. No, I think it was, it was Malayalam, so I don't think they expected that really. I think this one actually had quite a bit to say in it and I think I saw or I read a review on Letterbox, which is a film review app thingy. And it gave a good, somebody gave a good explanation of why they thought it was three hours because of what this film was about and all that kind of stuff. And so we can get into that a little bit later of why they did it. I still, I'm always on the side of never making a film too long. Less is more, always. Because I think the people are gonna critique more if they start getting bored or stuff like that. So that's I think one of the, I think I've said that many times on channels that that's one of the biggest things I think if you don't have a film that can keep you engaged for the full three hours, don't do it. Like obviously RRR, a lot of stuff happening, so many songs, so many great action stuff. Frickin' let gone, man. Yeah, yeah. Four hours when I was engaged. But then that's I think where India has an advantage because of all the songs and stuff. But obviously this one didn't, outside of two musical montages, didn't have that. Overall though, I was actually surprised at how much I was engaged for three hours, a different from you obviously. But let's get into it. And it's hard because I think the overall theme of this film is something that you kind of have to talk about first. And what do you think the theme of this film was? Or do you think there was a theme? It was probably lost on me because I was so distracted by so many other things that I was not enjoying that my caring or interest were void. So when you don't care and you're not interested, you're just counting the minutes for it to conclude rather than looking for the things that it could be about. And I understand and read some snippets of reviews. I watched Jimmy Cage's review and he liked it. Okay. And mentioned some things about the story and some of the things that are presented and what things represent. None of that was of any interest. Yeah. Gotcha. I didn't watch his review. But one of the things, and I kind of picked up on this early on, was I think the whole theme of this film is toxic masculinity. That's what I think the entire film was about actually. Okay. Is these two men and their massive egos not being able to let anything go. And we can talk about the ending because I have thoughts about the ending as well. But the fact that everybody around them and they had so many different instances to stop but their pride and their ego got in the way. A thousand percent of the time. And it just kept perpetuating, perpetuating, even though the point obviously towards the end where he was trying to talk to his father being intimate and then his wife demasculated him in front of his dad who he was having argument and he slapped her because he felt demasculated. So like the entire thing of just needing to be the macho man almost I think pointing a finger at the film industry and these hero tropes that I think this was playing off. I think that was the entire theme. Once again, I don't think it needed to. And the thing that the review said was the reason it was so long is because they wanted the audience to feel how exhausting that is. Which could be an artistic choice and a lot of people obviously liked it. I would always steer clear of once again making a film too long. That's one of the gravest like most awful things a film can do because people will not forgive being bored in a film, I don't think. No, I can't but that is the primary crime committed by most movies I dislike. Yeah, I get bored. And obviously being three hours without really big action scenes out towards the end. We've left films because they were boring. Yeah, so outside of big action films for the ends and there's no songs and so those things in normal Indian three hour films keep you engaged. Okay, we got a cool song most of the time. Or this is an emotional song or whatever. That helps keep you engaged. This one didn't have that. So obviously it might have been an artistic choice. You guys could tell me if you believe with what that reviewer said of is that the reason why it was three hours? But that would be a gripe for me with the film. Even though I was surprised at how much I was actually engaged with the film and my wife as well, she enjoyed it. And I did, even though I wish it wasn't dubbed. I'm not saying it was dubbed in a different language. It was not sync sound. It wasn't sync sound. It's what I'm saying when I say dubbed. Hence realism. But they might have been once again doing that because it was almost a point of finger at the hero worshiping films. Could be, could be. That we see, it's obviously all over any of the hero worship films with the big, especially in the Telugu industry, big massive. I mean even in Vikram and Kamal Hassan had a big massive dubbed booming voice. And they do that. So maybe that's why they did that. But I like the two performances. I think, who's this character? This one, right? Biju. I like his presence a lot. I think he has a really intimidating, especially with that moustache he's got going on. I like that. Wow, he looks incredibly different in his eye. In just his standard IMDB head shot. He was like, I know. Like that looks like his normal look. No, he looks way, I mean, at least with a full beard. He looks like, I'm guessing he either put on poundage or had a fat kind of suit. Yeah, no, I think that was his physique. Okay, he seemed a little bigger in the film. What do you think? Obviously, I know you didn't like the whole film as a whole and that's fine. But what do you think about the ending? Cause I do want to talk about the ending. And not the after the fight, obviously. Yeah, the very, very, very end. Yeah. Like what happened after the fight? Again, at that point I was really at a place where I was just counting the minutes to conclude. So I knew I could move on with my day. And it, like many of the other things that I saw throughout the film just didn't seem plausible to me. And it was frustrating because I didn't understand what it was I was supposed to be gleaning from that. And I think even if I had had the thought pre-film watching of it being a representative depiction of toxic masculinity, I probably would have the same feeling I do right now. The thought of okay, but was it? Cause if it was, it wasn't so clear to me that it was very, very evident. And that's part of the reason is that is just the plausibility. Like I said earlier, there's a difference between that couldn't happen versus that wouldn't happen. Yeah. It became pretty clear to me at least that's the my interpretation of the film very early on of it being about toxic masculinity. And I talked to my wife about it mid dear. And we watched this admittedly in three settings. Okay. We watched one hour. I watched it in one, three hours sitting. And also that's pretty normal for me. I have two, six months or almost six month old twins and a toddler. So we have to watch at night and then we get really sleepy sometimes. And so I fall asleep or we watched during their nap time in the middle of the day and they wake up. So there's all this different kind of stuff. So I watched it in like one hour, one hour, one hour. So maybe that helped a little bit with the flow of it not being a strict full three hours, but it still felt long. Don't get me wrong. But yeah, that came pretty clear to me. I did not like that ending though. Because it's just the switch that he turned. Yeah. And I... The plausibility of that. Even not that, because obviously I'm sure it's this... Obviously there's a metaphor behind it of obviously he was his beast and usually the... Maybe it's like a metaphor of like usually the police uniform makes people into monsters. That was kind of keeping his monster at bay. Almost a little bit. I just, I was anticipating the entire... Okay, who's gonna die? One of these two is gonna die. Somebody has to give, something has to give in the end. Yeah, that's a legitimate conflict. Yeah, so maybe it's a double edged short of my initial, this is about talk to masculinity and this is all kind of like almost a metaphor and that kind of stuff. And then they do this in the end and it might still be the same thing, but I didn't like, I was... It was a little too much for me. It was like though, cut. And then it's like... And I know there was a little more than that. I'm not saying that, but it's just... I wanted the ending to be different. I did not get the payoff that I was hoping for for the three hours that I invested in this film, in the ending. And maybe my interpretation is wrong and you guys can tell me if that is incorrect. But that is my second biggest gripe outside of the length of the film. Even though I enjoyed the film, I don't know if I would sit down. I mean, I know you don't have to answer that. Yeah, I know, I would not. Because three hours is a lot of time to invest in a film that is not just like a happy, like a stupid K3G cringy kind of stuff, right? Where you have fun musical numbers to sit through. This is more of a task to sit through for three hours. It is. I know, I'm not asking you to answer that, I know. I know your answer with that one. Yeah, it is. But some stuff that you liked in the film, is there anything, like the score you didn't like? I thought it was... Is it photography? Yeah, sorry. I actually liked all of both those things. I thought it was overscored. Yeah. That's weird. Yeah, I thought it was overscored. While I didn't see flaws in cinematography, I didn't see anything in particular that was, that stood out for me to go, wow, that was meritorious. Interesting. And so, yeah. No, okay. I did not get the overscored thing, at all. Yeah, I did. That's interesting. There aren't a lot of sequences that do not have music underneath them. For the three hours. I thought they fit, though. I enjoyed them. And I enjoyed the musical, like the two little montages, barely two montages of music you kind of get in it. And I was also kind of sometimes hoping for a little, even though I guess this is not really what they were going for, I was like, I kind of wanted him to kill that guy, a little bit in the middle of it, because I liked that whole sequence of him picking up with the truck. But they probably didn't want to, I think they wanted to, that would ruin their redemption arc for him of coming out of a cop and coming back, if he killed a person, because then he would have to go to jail, if he killed somebody. You know what I'm saying? Because obviously if he ended up actually pushing that guy over and he died, he couldn't become a copy, because he just killed a guy. Right. And so obviously, I guess the demolition of the public property was forgivable. Taking a life would not be. I guess. And it was just an eye for an eye. But that makes no sense in the fact that he had already killed what, 63 men or whoever, how many he had killed before? Before. He became a cop? Yeah. So he wasn't disqualified before, why would one more murder disqualify him? I don't know if that was actually real though, like I think that was like, you don't think he was a killer before? I don't think that was pretty given in the story. No, I'm saying I didn't know if that was like supposed to be like, like folklore about him kind of thing. No, I think that's legit. I think that's why like, and I think he killed him all, he may have killed every single one of them with his bear hug. So I, oh yeah. So that's for me, it's like, why couldn't he have killed him? There's just a lot of stuff for me that was, yeah, in that realm. Hey, I don't think I talked about the kosher as well. I liked him as well, the main two. I actually liked almost everybody in the cast in terms of it was pretty, the only non-Malayalam thing outside from their performances was the fact that they were, especially our main two leads. What was his name? Prakash and Koshy and their dubbing of their voices and making them bigger. Cause that's not typical Malayalam from what I've. No, maybe it's typical mainstream cause I think it was that way in Drisheem too, right? I don't remember. It may have been. So maybe for like the more massier Malayalam. Maybe, maybe. Even though I don't think this was a massy, I think it was trying to play on those films and not particularly from Malayalam, but maybe from other industries, just the hero style of films and that kind of stuff. So you may be able to answer questions I have that were things that bothered me. Yeah, yeah. The first one was, did you ever believe he was drunk? And did you ever believe he was an alcoholic? I think they made him look intoxicated at times. That's different than saying they made him look versus I believed he was or two different stories. Yeah, no, I think he, I believed it. You did? Yeah, I did. Okay. You didn't. You didn't surprise him. No, no, I did. Not at all. I never believed he was an alcoholic and I never believed he was drunk. Gotcha. The question I have and it may be because, cause this will happen to me admittedly. I'll see something and I won't like it and I'll say this doesn't make any sense. But then if I ask questions, I'll go, oh, they did reveal that and I just missed it because I was so disconnected and not caring. So something I didn't understand. Why were they so insistent on getting the video footage off the phone because that was so damning for the cop and they didn't want that thing submitted as evidence when it was already broadcast on the news? Yeah, I don't know. That confused me as well. Why didn't he know he was filming him when he was pouring the alcohol in the thing as he says, this is gonna end my career. How did he not know that him sitting across the table like this, that he wasn't filming him? Yeah, I think he probably just thought he was checking his phone. Cause obviously they wanted, since he was a, I don't know what word they used for him, but like a, what do they call him? And they're well connected or whatever. And obviously they wanted him to be comfortable. And so I'm assuming he just was like, he's just on his phone and I'm gonna do what the other guy said. Yeah, those were some of the many that for me were just, I just, the believability factor went out the window for me. Yeah. When I was watching, I didn't know if you were gonna like it or not because of some of those things. And also why didn't he tell him when he was on the motorcycle and he had the machete? I think they were just, I think he wanted to, one you probably would have died if you killed them all. They were driving at least. And I think they were wanting to wait for this big fuel or something, right? It was a, it didn't make sense in terms of like legitimate justification of a character. It made sense in terms of we need to continue the story to make this movie. I think it also might've gone into my theory of, you know, they do all these things that should lighten the tension of everything, of like he's doing him a kindness of all this kind of stuff and then his ego and toxic maximum still comes into play, even though he's doing this nice, nice thing, even though he's obviously the one that did it to him, obviously. The last one for me was, did you believe their fights and ultimately that the bear hug was as death dealing as it appeared? It depends on the man, I guess, right? Some people have a strong bear hug, man. And based on his appearance, did they look like that was a match where he was like just devastatingly powerful with that bear hug on that frame? I didn't think it was that non-believable. Yeah, it was the way, to me, the mismatch of just the physicality alone and what was evidenced in the fight sequences and what both people were capable of doing. Number one, I didn't believe that was an equal fight. I thought it was completely, it would have been a mismatch, but let's say it wasn't. It would take mythical level of physical power to kill someone with a bear hug from that position. And I consistently, in my mind, was thinking, you do know you can headbutt people from behind. Like, he was sitting there and there was these shots constantly. I was like, all it takes is one of these, man. Just go in his face and he never did it. So those were just throughout, like every 15 minutes I'd get something so that by the time I was at the interval, it was hard. You said you had an idea. I probably wasn't gonna like it. I had an idea through the film, whether you would like it or not, I was like, maybe, but I'm also wouldn't be surprised at all if Rick didn't like this one. Were you looking to see if there were gonna be texts? No. Okay, because that happened sometimes. There've been times we watch movies and I'll send him a text and say, I'm 45 minutes in, is this gonna get any better? But the, yeah, I was wondering why he just didn't headbutt him as well. That was something I was like, I mean, I'm not even a trained fighter and if you're about to die, you're kinda gonna do it. You're not gonna do anything. You're gonna do anything to try to get out of it. And I just didn't believe he could physically overpower him or take. It requires, I didn't think, I mean, I did some research and the amount of strength it takes, it's like, if someone squeezes someone to death, it's typically a grown man doing it to a child or a small woman. I don't know that you're gonna find two men because the amount of force it takes and it would take a very long time to accomplish it. It's not like doing a rear naked choke on somebody. It's a very, very different thing. And it's just the plausibility of it with somebody who's clearly been sitting behind a desk for the past 30 years and hasn't done anything physical who's suddenly able to do that was for me. Again, it's one thing, like, I love using this film as an example because it's so great on so many levels. Everything, everywhere, all at once has so many ridiculous things that transcend reality, but none of them couldn't happen. They just wouldn't happen. There's some, you're like, well, maybe. I mean, it's, there is, it's probably unlikely. Hotdog fingers won't happen. Probably unlikely, but it's in the realm of that, right? Versus when you're trying to present something as real and it's just straight, like, he was in the tractor and he had lifted him up. Well, he was, he waited for him on the sand when he was bringing, he's like, he's like, no, don't come get me. Well, I'd assume because he was hurt. He was hurt. He couldn't move. Later, he was like on a stretcher. He was very hurt. However, when it lifted him up and the cops stop him, it showed that and it showed him in there moving his arms around, like trying to get out. Not two seconds later in frame as it's lowering, he's not moving at all. So I guess between that moment on the edit and the next moment, he passed out completely. Those kinds of things are really difficult for me to stay in the moment with storytelling. I reference what I said at the beginning. If you wanna know my mindset about film and this isn't just an American thing. This began with Italian films and then the French did it and I was referencing this German author about film theory and realism unless it's farcical and nonsensical with intentionality, where it's making fun, I fall into the category of realism. Well, you don't think a film can be an entire metaphor. It can't be in reality, but also look like it's reality. Absolutely it can. Well, that's where I think this film lied. Yeah, I don't think that this whole thing was farce. Well, it's not farcical, but I wanna say it's more of a metaphor. Well, if it is then even more, since it's a metaphor example, all of the parables that Jesus told were metaphorical, but they were all rooted in reality and he didn't use anything in his stories that violated natural law. Or that Jesus not a movie. That's what makes the storytelling. No, it's not because that's what makes the storytelling have an impact because the actual moral is dependent upon the truth of the story. And if there's not truth in the story, why should I believe your metaphor? If Jesus directed this, it would have been better. Am I right, Rick? Talking about the power of storytelling. And the power of Jesus. And the power of story as metaphor. The power of Christ compels you just not this film because Rick thinks it's shit. Those of you with an IQ above 100 understand what I'm talking about. What if it's 99? You won't get it. Damn. Anyways. Now those who have an IQ of 69, you're fine. Nice. Anyways, let us know what you thought about this film, who you think is right, who you think is wrong. Are we both idiots? Well, that's always a foregone conclusion. Well, and what should be our next Malayalam film that we should watch? Please let us know down below.