 What kind of world do I want to live in? I think about this question a lot. For our generation and for specifically my group of people, which is refugees, the circumstances might dismantle any vision of the future that we have. You're trying to rebuild, you're trying to make a future for yourself and then the climate-related disaster comes and you start again. It's not about how it's affecting you now, it's about how it's affecting you your entire life. The first step to understand is that we're all a part of it. None of us are going to be left out by the crisis. We're at a stage where if we don't act now, there won't be very much left. There are generations that will never see certain things that we grew up seeing in real life. We have to start treating this like the emergency it is. To achieve the 17 sustainable development goals, we have to go from an intention to a serious commitment. Business leaders really need to rethink how they conduct their business and invest in creating systems that are climate-friendly. The action I would like to see is accountability. Structures being put in place where countries aren't just asked to do something, but they're kept accountable to the decisions that they make. There has to be that strong collaboration between government, between corporations, between youth activists to drive change forward. The world I would want to live in is a world where imagining the future is not a privilege. I want to live in a world where people do not give up on hope. Hope that a positive change is possible. The fact that you're listening today means that you are willing to make a change. Welcome everyone to the World Economic Forum's dialogue on nature-positive land transition. I'm really excited about today's topic because it is such an important topic for all of us. Those of us involved in conservation, in business, in civil society, in government, indigenous peoples. If you eat, this topic is of relevance to you. If you care about nature or our planet, this topic is of relevance to you. So here's the shocker. At least it was for me and I'm pretty sure it would be for the audience as well. The demand for agricultural commodities has grown twice as fast as the world's population. So you really ask yourself where is population growth really having a bite on the planet? It would be on agricultural commodities and the demand for agriculture, the demand for food and clearly the way we're dealing with it, which is piecemeal. We're trying to protect on one side. We're trying to grow on the other side. Cannot continue in the same way. If it does, we know where we will end up. We will end up in a huge deficit for nature. The biggest shocker for me from the IPCC report that came out recently, which really took its gloves off and the scientists finally spoke in plain language to power. The narrow window we still have, and it is a narrow window to achieve a livable planet, a 1.5 or even a 2 degree future for our planet. That is only possible if nature is essentially left untouched. So the big assumption of the IPCC report is that nature, what you see outside with a geolocal park or a farm or frankly, intact tropical forests, those all will be left untouched. And we know clearly that is not true. This session that you're going to hear today is supported by the Food and Agriculture Commodities and Trade Fact FACT Dialogue. And it's taking place in the lead up to COP26. I want to highlight a recent report that the World Economic Forum and the Tropical Forest Alliance, TFA, put out this week that highlighted the significant loss of primary forests, which we all know really contain our future. Because of the amazing rich stores of carbon that they contain, that have lost cannot be recovered in a human relevant time scale, and of course biodiversity, the engine of life. An area exceeding 60 million hectares has been lost since 2002. This is despite all the efforts of government, of civil society and of companies. So let me just say it this way. You know, I was born in the city, I was born in Sri Lanka in Colombo. And for us going out to the farm meant kind of going out into nature. And then we moved to West Africa and we really live in a tropical forest. We lived actually within a forest reserve. And so in my backyard, you know, colobus monkeys, dikers, chukhansis even were common occurrences. And then one day, one day during the growing season, it was gone. It had been cut and burned. And the following months it was from then on out, was a farm field of maize and cassava. And that for me was the realization that all the farms that we see around the health used to be nature, right? So for us to come up with a solution to this challenge, obviously we need to feed the world. And obviously we need to protect nature. We really need a more systemic solution that can bring all parties together to come up with a systemic solution than a piecemeal solution. So let me introduce the context of the session. This is sort of the overall context of the session. We are going to have a couple of amazing speakers here today who will expand on this framework. And then we're going to breakout sessions. And I really want to just remind you of the objectives of these breakout sessions. Try and surface the tensions and the trade-offs that are here. Get a sense of what strategies might be most useful. And then think about how we link food security, forest conservation, frankly human migration and climate goals through really this public-private partnership. Because I think with general agreement that you need the private sector, the nonprofit sector, and you also need governments. So we're going to start with opening remarks here. I need to do some housekeeping. So Slido for audience, Slido for audience interactions. You can submit your questions to speakers here. Zoom has an annotated function for breakout groups. Zoom toppling checks can be used for interactions between participants. But please keep your questions to Slido. Top-link virtual raise hands. So use the raise hands and toppling to ask questions or make a comment during the group discussions. That's towards the end. And then please include your organization in your names when you're on to Zoom. This first part of the conversation, of course, is recorded. It will be made available pretty much right away. So with that, I'm going to turn it over to Fabiola Muñoz, who is the coordinator for the Coalition for Sustainable Production, Peru. And as the co-chair of FACT, the multi-stakeholder task force to give us some opening remarks. Fabiola from Peru, over to you. Thank you so much for the opportunity. And thanks for all the effort that the people is doing in this moment, all the people to organize this event to do that. The world is changing and we are facing a pandemic and it is making rethink absolutely all the things, everything. We need to rethink that. And at the same time, we face the risk of the climate change. And we have not yet been able to end poverty. This is one of the challenges that we have. And for that reason, there are some people more vulnerable than others to confront the climate change. And we need to think about that because the demand for agricultural products is growing faster than it's expected in relation with the growing of the population. But this demand of food, it's really in relation with the frustration, for example. In a country like Peru, we have an increase of the frustration last year in directly relation with the pandemic consequence. People need more jobs. Government is thinking about the create of these new jobs and how we can help the economy develop a new economy. And this is true. We need to develop a new economy. And in this case, economy that is more inclusive for the people. Indigenous, small producers. And we need to be faster in this. We need to work together. We need to have the idea that the finance sector, for example, it's really important because the transition that we need to involve all the people. And we have a lot of poor people vulnerable in different areas in the world. But the finance sector, for that people, it's really far. This is one of the most important things that we need to discuss. How we can involve them. How we can make some decisions in the government, in the markets, in the production system that change the things, that stop the frustration, that help that people to introduce in the markets sustainable. And this is part of the challenge that we have. The transition of the land use sector towards climatic and ecological sustainability is an urgent necessity. We need to work together. And this is part of the effort that we are doing in examples like Peru, in countries like Peru, with the coalition or in the fact dialogue. This is one of the huge topics that we need to address. And in this session, we think it's a good opportunity to think about that. And this session, it supports the fact dialogue because we believe that dialogue, it's a key element between the government, the consumers, the producers. All needs to work on that. And it's really important to have the idea that the transition needs to involve all. And we need to be really innovative to do that. Thanks so much for this space. And I hope we are going to have a good session today. Thank you. Thank you, Fabiola. So now let me turn to our panelists to really set the context or set the stage. We have three opening speakers. Malik Amin Aslam, Minister of Climate Change for Pakistan. Minister Aslam is unable to join us live because of a last minute unavoidable challenge. So he will be here with via a short video. Ellen Jokowski, who is the Chief Impact Officer and Head of Sustainable Impacts for HP Inc, Hewapacket Inc. And then Marco Lambertini, Director General of WWF International. So I'm going to start with Minister Aslam and have his video around just four minutes. And then we'll come to Ellen and Marco. Bismillahir Rahmanir Raheem. Good morning and good afternoon everybody. I would like to start off by thanking the World Economic Forum for holding this very important discussion on a topic which is absolutely essential for humanity. And which is how do we make sure that our land transitions are nature positive? Because at the moment they're not. We have a growing population with a growing demand on agriculture and a stagnating productivity in the agriculture sector. So what is happening really is that at the moment the agricultural lands around the urban areas are being urbanized and agriculture is pushing its way into the forest areas. So this is a negative, what we would call a nature negative land transition and we need to get away from it. It is absolutely essential because of the times we are living in. This is the time when nature has really taught us a lesson and it's a very important lesson for all of us to register and to digest. And the lesson is that we cannot be on this war path with nature. We need to get off this pathway because if we don't the nature will react and when nature reacts, humanity cannot face the reaction. Nature has had its own way of surviving and of reclaiming its own space back. So when humans pushed the thresholds and went into animal habitats, nature has reacted through the COVID pandemic and we've seen what it can do. So I think it's very important to register as I said and digest this lesson. The other lesson is a positive lesson, which is that there is a new world out there. We can build back better. There is a nature positive recovery out there and that is the part that we need to take. And I think that's what this discussion is all about, that how do we reverse the negative trends we are on in terms of land transitions and make sure that we have a nature positive land transition. Pakistan on its part has really learned that lesson during the COVID era. We announced a green stimulus for recovery, which was based on nature. It is based on providing livelihoods to the people and protecting nature. So two very clear objectives and we have the 10 billion tree project planting trees all over Pakistan, but also giving jobs to the people. We have the protected area initiative, which is expanding our protected and wilderness areas in Pakistan, but also giving jobs to the people. And we have the recharge Pakistan initiative, which is trying to use our floodwaters, which is really a crisis, but to use it positively and to use it to restore our wetlands and recharge our aquifers and also creating livelihood and jobs with it. I think that is the direction we need to take. We are also in Pakistan looking at a climate smart agriculture project, which has been approved by the GCF. And it's looking at six, nine districts in Pakistan and looking at issues of water quality, water management, better information to the farmers about weather impacts and the rapidly changing weather patterns. And it's called climate smart agriculture, trying to use technology to make sure that our agriculture remains productive in the face of climate change. And I think we need to also talk about a nature positive agriculture. That is the discussion we need to have. I was recently at the World Conservation Congress where we discussed that agriculture areas with certain conditions can also serve as protected areas, but provided they are meeting those conditions. And I think that is really the transition that the world needs to take so that we move, you know, we take a step back from this war path with nature and make sure that we get on to a nature positive recovery and a nature positive development pathway. And a nature positive land transition is really central to that whole equation. Thank you very much and I wish you all the best for the discussion. I will be looking forward to heading back on this discussion as you move forward. Thank you. So I'm going to turn to the Director General of WWF, Marco Lamattini, who's in Europe right now. So the minister said nature has really taught us a lesson. I want to talk to you about the destination. So when we talk about land use transition, what exactly Marco are we transitioning to? What does our destination look like? And honestly, you've been in this your whole life. Is this a utopian dream or is it doable? Your question, what is the destination? Do we have a destination? That's actually an issue because we have a destination and very clear one on the climate agenda. The carbon neutrality net zero emissions by 2050 is absolutely clear. In fact, it's a disruptive destination, a disruptive goal. That on climate, the world is a good in Paris that has disrupted in a positive way the whole energy sector by driving a shift towards renewable energy. On nature, when it comes to nature, when it comes to forests, to ocean, to biodiversity more in general, we don't have that clarity. So we need to embrace a clear destination on nature as we have on climate. And you know, we've been part of the discussions before. We are not just WWF, but actually a large group of organizations, increasingly diverse and also governments and businesses, beginning to embrace the idea of embracing a global goal for nature equivalent to the global goal for climate. The double compass, double north-south, double southern cross that will drive our sustainability agenda. And that global goal for nature has to be, and science is clear about that, a nature positive by 2030 goal. What that means, simply put, means that by 2030, we should have more nature than today. More forest, more fish in the ocean and in rivers, more pollinators in our countryside and farmlands, more biodiversity in general. Of course, we'll have to develop proper metrics, but those are not the main obstacles. The main obstacle is to actually agree to the level of ambition, which is science-based, because it is possible. Science is telling us that we can reverse natural loss and go to a nature positive track by the end of the decade. But we need to do a few important things, and that's where political leadership and will is key. The first thing to do is to protect more, protect more than protect today. There is a goal of 30% by 2030 on land and the ocean, protection, of course, through a number of different tools. Governments, indigenous community and local communities, governance of land and ocean, private ventures and so forth. And then there is the other issue that actually the minister of Pakistan mentioned already, the issue of greening the economic sectors driving natural loss today. Protecting 30% is key, but it's not enough. We need to also take away the pressures that today the economy, our economic model today is putting on nature. And top of the list is agriculture, top of the list is fishing in the ocean, but also because we're talking about land, agriculture, infrastructure, forestry, mining. Those are the key drivers today, or unsustainable use of natural resources and destruction of nature. We need to green those sectors, and Fabiala is absolutely right in her introduction. The key dimension here is, of course, a mix of regulation, technology, consumer behaviors and changes in demands, lifestyle changes. But at the end of the day, if we're not going to be able to shift the financial flows from where they're going today, which is subsidizing the wrong type of agriculture, the wrong type of fishing, the wrong type of mining, the wrong type of infrastructure, too sustainable, nature positive, carbon neutral transitions in all these sectors, we are not going to be able to become nature positive by 2030. So this is in a nutshell the plan. And then of course, translating into the ground is the next step. And I guess we'll be discussing this next. So even if we can't totally see the destination, we certainly know the steps we need to take to get us on the journey. And it's important more than ever now to get on that journey is what I'm getting that strong sense from what you said. Yes, but I would also add, as I'm trying to think, you know, we're at a point where we know exactly the nature of the problem. In fact, for the first time in our history of the species, we know the consequences that this is having, not just on a natural world, but actually on us in our lives and our health, on our economy. You know, the data are clear, the figures are clear, science, economists are very clear. We're on a crash course as an economy, as a society. So we have to change. That's a massive change, mindset change. So we know the problem. We know we need to identify the destination. The destination is clear, carbon neutral, nature positive. That's got to be our compass. And then the transition is where we need to work on. Great. So I'm going to introduce the second team. So that first team is sort of the team of destination where we're trying to all head to. And the second team is really around, you know, for us about restoration. And when you talk restoration, who are the restorers? Yes, it's nature, but it's also people, right. And that's where jobs and livelihoods comes in. So I want to bring in Ellen jacuzzi who's the chief impact officer and the head of sustainability for HP Inc. And Oscar. So how do we make sure that forced conservation, forced restoration, the work we do for nature actually has positive outcomes for people? And how does restoration ultimately contribute to livelihoods? What are your thoughts on this? You know, link jobs if you can to this big effort that Marco has laid out, because if you don't have jobs, we're not going to get to where we need to get to. Well, thank you, Sanja, and to the World Economic Forum for this discussion. I think we can all agree that healthy forests are key to the world's path to net zero. And, you know, I'm from HP, a company who makes printers that use paper. So, you know, our vision is to be the most sustainable and just technology company in the world. And part of that vision includes making every page printed on HP printers, forest positive, and that's for the planet, its people and the communities. So thinking very holistically about our solutions and making sure that people that humans are at the center of how we think about the solutions and implement them. And to us, of course, that means giving back more to the forests and communities than we take out. So some examples of how we're able to do this. We're partnering with World Wildlife Fund to restore, protect and responsibly manage 200,000 acres of forest in Brazil and China. And that's an area equal to the size of New York City, I think for you are today, Sanja. And with that comes positive outcomes for people in communities. So one project that I want to highlight in Brazil, where HP, along with WWF and international paper are restoring 250 acres of forest land in the Mogi Guassu River Basin. Together, we're working with a local forest restoration organization called Copa Iba. And our work with Copa Iba is a direct example of how we can ensure forest conservation and restoration that has positive outcomes for people, including jobs, Sanjan, to your point. So founded in 1999 by teenage sisters, the all women organization has been working to reconnect and restore the South America's Atlantic Forest, which is one of the world's most endangered ecosystems. Copa Iba takes a very human centered approach. So it connects one on one with rural landowners to raise the awareness and gain permission to plant seedlings on their property. And the seedlings that Copa Iba grows and plants themselves creates protective buffers for springs and rivers. It gives wildlife more space to roam. And just as importantly, it demonstrates the true benefits for the landowners and the entire region. Things like better water quality and in greater quantity, more bees to pollinate crops and a greater shade to protect the livestock. So all of this work improves not only the lives of the community members, but also their livelihoods, you know, with focusing on that job creation, the sustainable achievement in the financial model of how we're implementing this considering the community. So it's really this connection of people with people, people with the land, land with life that creates a virtuous cycle of sustainable impact. And I think this work is a model for how we all need to think about the change we need to drive going forward. And Ellen, this land that you are in the process of restoring with the help from WWF International and local partners. Is that land still productive? So is there still some timbering that happens there? My assumption is yes, this is where it's being restored, but it's also going to continue to provide some amount of paper and other things. Absolutely. And again, I think that's the model, right? HP as a company needs to continue to create printers that will use paper. So we need to figure out how to do this, change that economic model, change the community model so that everyone wins. The planet wins. Our company can still be productive. And the communities of course can also be sustainable in their livelihoods and in the health of the community. So Marco, I want to turn to you on this, right? So I'm going to ask you a very pointed question. So when I hear this, I know you're a nature guy, like I know how passionate you are actually about nature. This is someone who goes diving in the lakes in Switzerland to look for fish in the summers, just to put Marco in a global perspective. These are not just plantations we're talking about. When you talk about restoring landscapes and making them, but continuing to keep them productive, do they really have biological value? Well, look, I think there are different types of restoration, right? One clearly is about restoring ecological functionality in full, which is possible and necessary in some areas. In some other areas, as Ellen has just said, is a question of improving the state of particular landscapes, even rural landscapes. There are rural landscapes that are now deserts in terms of biodiversity and actually is beginning to have a negative effect on the productivity of those farmland as well. And with some interventions, very, very simple sometimes just adding vegetation, native vegetation, the value of biodiversity of these places increases incredibly quickly. So there are different ways of restoring and sometimes you need to go deep into full restoration and natural habitats. In other cases, could be more anthropogenic habitats that are still able to host much more biodiversity than today. But I go back to the point I made earlier. I think in order to allow that to happen, we need both some system change at the top level. For example, subsidies policies, tax and incentive policies at the country level. And then of course, what we need is good land use planning at the local level. That's really the biggest challenge we're facing in our job in trying to make this happen on the ground everywhere in the world. Good land use planning, good balance between protection, production, sustainable production and sustainable use of resources where nature and people both benefit. And that requires good governance on the ground and a willingness to bring really all the stakeholders together. So that's where the challenge is really, I think. Yeah. Ellen, let me just turn to you. Not a week goes by now that we at Conservation International don't hear from a company that is interested in some type of restoration, whether it's ocean restoration, mangroves, forest, grasslands. We're doing something with carrying on grasslands, for example, in South Africa. It's literally every week. Why is it so attractive for the private sector? And the second part of that question is would you also agree, the private sector has the fuel to keep this going, but you need good policies on the government level to put that within a framework that is actually scalable? Well, I think, you know, you're in New York where the United Nations General Assembly is convening and the world is wrestling with how do we accelerate our actions to tackle climate change and all of the other societal pressures that we're facing. So it's time to act. Companies, again, like HP need to step up and change what we are doing and help influence what others are doing and bring them along with us. And so I think, you know, the conservation effort and the number of phone calls you're getting indicate the interest, the strong, clear need, the urgency that we are all feeling as corporations and as individuals to change what we are doing to address climate change and make a difference. You know, I live in Northern California and all summer, the wildfires have been raging. They've impacted my life, my community's life, and we need to change. And so I think that is what you're feeling is this impact of everyone feeling the urgency to do things differently and better. But it sounds like you're not just saying you're following your customers, right, because you're not only is a question. My question is, is industry and let's just pick on HP because you're representing them right. Is it following the customers or are they leading? I think both, primarily leading and trying to educate our customers to the opportunities they have as well to influence us. Right. So when they change their purchasing habits, that helps accelerate our changes. We're leaning into it. For example, our PC portfolio. We've been able to substantiate the claim that HP has the world's most sustainable PC portfolio. So we're out there. We're ahead of the game. But that is a comparative statement. You know, our competitors can come and do something differently and raise the stakes for us, which is a good thing because then we have to raise the bar to keep that statement. So bringing our customers into the equation, they're part of the solution. They help push us faster. You know, we've set some really ambitious and comprehensive goals for 2030. And for us to meet them, we need our customers along with us to be part of the solution. Marco, one minute to wrap up any thoughts that you might have and then I'm going to move to the breakout sessions. Well, perhaps the last thought to share is it's about really try to, I mean, our challenge is going to be achieving multiple wins at once. And I think what is exciting about today is the fact that the economic agenda, the social development agenda and environmental agenda are really coming together. And it's rare to hear any more initiatives or projects that just taking one of those angles and not try to integrate the three. That's, I think, the most exciting development of the last few years. And we need to all work together in that direction. Yeah, I really would agree with you. I think the biggest thing that we've sort of seen, and you know, you and I have been part of the World Economic Forum sort of community for some time now is both the inclusion of our agendas, conservation agendas, nature agendas within those high level panels, but also the other way around. Like I can't remember a panel that I have done, even the one I did this morning, indigenous peoples, business leaders, in this case from Mastercard, government sector and nonprofit, right? That's really a promising change to push for systemic change. All right, so thank you to the opening panelists. I really appreciate all your Fabiola for giving us a big frame. And then Marco Allen, Minister from Pakistan. Aslam, Mr. Aslam for giving us some context for discussion. So this was the recorded segment. It'll be webcasted after the session. Now we're going to move to a hands-on working session.