 I get to talk to everyone and anything that's interested in cyber security but the most important and most fun thing that I love about my job is actually talking to startups and small businesses around the importance of cyber security but actually also startups and small businesses that focus on cyber security. There's never been a better time to be a woman in cyber security. And why is that? It's just so dynamic and so exciting. The world is our oyster and what's so important about cyber security get right is equality. And we're not there. It's a jump right in. I think it's really important to role model what cyber security does look like in the day to day because of course we've got an image problem. Most people think it's about ones and zeros. That's really important part of the story but it's not the only part of the story. So my job I see as part of these kinds of events is to role model what you can do if you don't want to have a technical background or you don't have a technical background in cyber security to see the jobs that are available to you and how much fun you can have in those jobs as well.