 Okay, welcome again, yeah, we had, so we took some time to go through to understand different parts of how God has made us, the mind, the soul, sorry, the soul, the body and the spirit and our focus being on the soul, to understand that the emotional part of us, the emotional person or soul is what can also be, can also be sick or can also be, can have problems, and that's what we are specifically looking into as to how do we come to a place of wholeness in this area of our souls. So we briefly looked at some, some terms also, and the last thing that we just want to focus again is just to have understanding of the difference between the brain and the soul. So the brain is a structural organ, it's a functional organ, and it is a physical organ, and that the brain is what rules and controls the entire body system. And the brain has areas in it for thinking, for reasoning, for emoting. So that's why we were talking about how the connection between the soul and the physical body is very complex. It's true, even the physical body that one can reason and one can think and emot, because there are centers in the brain that help in thinking and reasoning and emotions. And yeah, so there are those centers that are there. However, the soul is what makes up, like we said, the mind, the will and the emotions and becomes a very real part of us, but gets manifested in the way that it expresses itself through the brain. Unlike being able to see the brain under an MRI or a scan, the soul is something that you cannot see. It's not something that you can scan and see. And that's why it's described as the person with the inner person or the psychological person. The way that you are able to have a good cross-section of the soul is through the way, through expressions of speech, through expressions of attitude, through emotions that come up is how you get to see a lot more. It's more about what the soul is. So you cannot see the soul. It's something that gets expressed in the way that we talk, in the way that we behave, in the way that we emote. So, as we said, the mind affects the brain and the body, and we spoke of something called, like I said earlier, was psychosomatic issues that often, psychosomatic issues often have its root cause in the emotional part or the psychological part of the person. Like, you know, there may probably be times that people who may be psychosomatic have manifestations of their emotional struggles coming across in their bodies either, you know, very common ones are headaches, common ones are joint pains, issues with sleep. All of this comes as a result of the psychological concerns that may be in the very being of the person. In this next part, we're going to briefly look at what are some of the problems that are related to the soul, or what we call is, can the soul be sick? Is it possible that the soul can be sick? Yes, the soul can be sick. And this sickness is the problems that occurs within the soul of the person. And that's what you see as emotional struggles, or that's what you see as psychological struggles. So when we look at these problems, there may be very many examples to this. And just to name a few, and I think some that have been named even in your book are things like anger, uncontrolled anger, deep resentment, hatred, extreme forms of sadness. Fears that can be very, very obsessive or controlling or something that holds on to the person, extreme sense of anxiety, panic, worry, or there can be emotional problems could come as a result of the lack of self-esteem, lack of self-worth. Very significant, deep-rooted rejection that can come about, feelings of insignificance, a sense of insecurity, a sense of being a mistake, being a failure. Some emotional problems come as, excuse me, some problems come as a result of, you know, there are tendencies of self-harm, suicidal tendencies, there can be addictions of many kinds. There are often disturbances in the way one thinks, which could be more into obsessive kind of thoughts, or there can be as a result of the emotional concerns that they can come. There are problems which are manifested physically as in the sense of eating disorders, concerns with lifestyle and health. So when we look at it, yes, the soul can be sick and you have a wide range of problems that you would see through this. The next part of it quickly just looks at what are some of the life's problems that are related to the problems of the soul. And I want to make a couple of mentions over here and also just open up concerns with mental health conditions as well. That becomes, that borders out into, sometimes into a disorder because of the strong issues that have happened in the emotions of the person or in the soul part of the person. So the first one that's listed here is that of certain behaviors and choices. So behaviors and choices that come about. So there are a couple of terms that are used here which is, you know, compulsive, being compulsive, being addictive, being impulsive, being repetitive. And just a couple of examples for this for us to kind of better understand. So then when we're looking at the word compulsive, it is a need to do something. And until that is done, there seems to be no rest or no, no, or there could be a sense of distress if the compulsions aren't followed. So, and I'm sure some of us would have heard the terms called as OCD, obsessive compulsive disorders, where there is an obsession in the mind, an obsessive thought in the mind that leads to a compulsive act. So some of the, you know, maybe I'll just give you some examples of compulsions is the need to, the obsessive thoughts could be one like, you know, the hands aren't clean or there is infection all around. And the compulsive behavior becomes excessive hand washing, or, or there is, there is an obsessive thought about, about not having locked doors, and there is a compulsive behavior of frequent checking in any specific area. So these, these also become issues with the soul because it, it brings about significant distress, and until and unless one resorts to a compulsive behavior, it is, they don't feel settled in dealing with that kind of a distress. Okay, so that's compulsion. When we're looking at addictive, let's look at certain addictions, such as be it alcohol, be it smoking, or be it pornography. A lot of these addictions are resorted to, because there is no sense, there isn't an adequate sense of coping in the emotional realm. So that it, it requires something else or a substance or something tangible to keep itself to cope. Like you would have heard of people talking about how when they, when they're very stressed, once they've had a smoke, they feel a lot more calm. Right. And that becomes a coping to deal with stress. Addictions become a coping to deal with stress. Or people who are going through an emotional, emotional lack tend to get addicted to some form of an experience that gives them that that's, that that makes them feel power over that situation. Usually you see this in pornography, that there is an emotional lack that they experience. And they get addicted to pornography, hoping that that fills up the void that they are experiencing within their emotions. Okay, so that that becomes that's another part of being addictive. The word impulsive. Impulsive is to do make choices without understanding consequences or understanding what, what happens. So sometimes, you know, people with an impulsive nature may do things that are very risky for their lives without really looking at the consequences of it. So the impulse comes as a result of the heightened emotion that may be that they may be going through. So there is, there is, so I'm just going to tell you a bit about some of disorders, psychiatric disorders, or personality disorders that play out here are those who are impulsive in nature that at a point of time. And, and how does this manifest, you know, let's say a person gets into an argument with somebody. And because of the height, heightened emotion, they aren't able to calm themselves down. And the only way to, you know, to get what they want or to be able to cope is to impulsively do something. So that's how, you know, you could many, many suicides I think almost if I'm a right upon the percentage at least the 10 to 12% of suicides happens as a result of impulsive behavior. It is not a well thought of action, but because of the heightened emotions or the struggles they feel within a specific situation, not able to face that distress, get impulsive, and do something. Right. Either, you know, commit attempt to suicide or engage in high risk behavior. So it's impulsivity is all about responding to the emotion at hand, when someone is emotional, you respond accordingly, and that in itself causes significant issues. Okay. The last one is here repetitive, where things are done over and over again, because of the lack of lack of settlement in their minds that that something is enough so continues a repetitive patterns of behavior actually takes on. So even repetition also moves into, like I said, the obsessive compulsive part of it. Okay, so these are some of the behavior and certain behaviors and choices that relate to problems in the soul is that any question here. Okay, I think there was a couple of questions. Can alcoholism be treated as a bloodline curse or, or where do put this bloodline curses example, early deaths, madness, anger. Okay. Avni, we are at page six. Okay, so can alcoholism be treated like a bloodline curse. Now, alcoholism. So, I think I'd like to answer it is two parts is that is to understand that when you look at psychiatry and psychological science, it, they have classified alcoholism as a disorder. Now, what we mean by alcoholism is being dependent on alcohol as a disorder. And if you look at the causes that it talks about is that there can be very many causes that comes natural causes. Okay. And I believe that there are spiritual causes to alcoholism also. So the natural causes that generally take place is it can be hereditary, it can be a learned behavior, a behavior of coping that is learned in the early formative years of an individual where alcohol has been resorted to as a coping mechanism. And that becomes like a, like a, like a mechanism to, to help yourself work through that. So it can be seen as a learned behavior. It can be seen as something that's hereditary or genetic that, you know, family members or there's a family history of alcoholism and you'd probably see that in the generations to come. However, I, I still, I still would say that there are also spiritual reasons for alcoholism in, in the fact that, you know, like, like you would see how suicides. If you look at histories of suicides, you will, you would see that there is, there has probably occurred suicides within that family even, even earlier. So that also, I think is also like a curse that keeps going forward, you know, some, there is an influence of demonic powers in that area of being, of taking away life, of not being able to cope and taking away life. So I'd see that as also as some kind of a generational bondage, not a curse, I think it's better. The word best used is a generational bondage that, that can occur. So yes, alcoholism can have very many different causes. So whether it's as a coping, whether it's as a learned behavior as a result of experiences of the home or whether it be spiritual in nature. Okay. I think, is there any, any other question? If not, we'll move forward. Okay. The next part of problems related to the soul is the emotional well-being. Now, this is a large part, often that, that gets, it's, it's not, it's not shown out as much, or it doesn't come out as much in the open, like certain behaviors and certain choices, because a lot of behaviors and choices are things you can see, it's, it's tangibly seen. Whereas emotional concerns and problems are things that the person suffers through within. And some of these that have been termed here is fear, anxiety, depression, hopelessness, rejection, feeling victimized and having low self-esteem. And all of this could have very many causes to it. So for example, you know, I have seen people who are anxious have a family member who, who has had a condition of anxiety. So that's been the coping of people and it, it moves on as a coping even in the generations to come, that just being anxious about different things and that can, anxiety can, can be generalized in the sense of there can be, there can be a pervasive sense of anxiety on everything. There can be anticipatory anxiety that is wondering what's going to happen even before some of that, that some of those things have happened. So anxiety becomes like a crutch and becomes, and it gets very difficult to move forward in the different things that the individual is doing. So anxiety, panic can all be extremely debilitating for the individual. Fear, fear, fear is another, another important emotional issue that, that comes about where fear arises as a result of some sense, some anticipation of some kind of a harm that, that may come about. So the feeling of being in fear can again be extremely debilitating. Depression, the way that one responds to life in a state of sadness, in a state of a low mood at all points of time where they, where they show extreme pessimism, extreme hopelessness and helplessness in, in different situations that their response to life becomes very, very bleak. There's, there's no desire for the future. There is, there is a bleak understanding of what, what can come about. So this, this is what depression can put people into. Now, and I think I just want to add a note on this is that, so, so depression can also be clinical in nature, right? That, and we do not, I think we do, we do understand what science says. And so if you, if you look into depression, there are different factors that causes depression. There can be an extraneous factor that is a factor from the outside, maybe the life, certain life events that causes depression, or there can be certain traumatic situations that causes depression, or there can also be, sorry, I can't get the word. There could also be internal factors of depression, which means not really having a cause, not really having an open cause that, that, that also classifies as depression. That's what we usually call as clinical depression. Now, however, these depression definitely has roots in the way that one sees themselves and the way that one feels about themselves, the one that where they feel about being victims. So these all have roots in, in, in that, you know, the way that they were seen as young as children or where they where they were handled as young people definitely causes a sense of lack of self esteem. Hopelessness, rejection, rejection, a lot of times it needn't, rejection needn't only be from others, rejection can also happen from within a person. You know, the way the thought patterns, the wrong thinking of a person about themselves, you know, or making meaning into the way others treat them and rejecting themselves, also becomes an issue. So these are certain conditions for emotional well-being and there are, there are very many more, but these are some of the common ones that we, we see. Okay. The next, we focus onto relational problems, problems that arise as a result of the way one relates to, to another or how it manifests itself in relationships and some that have been written here are withdrawal, anger, being dominating, controlling, manipulative, being violent, being hurtful. So a lot of relational problems come as a result of emotional concerns that one may have. Now let's, let's take something for example as manipulative. People become manipulative because there could be a notion that unless and until they get their way done through manipulation, it may never be possible for their inner needs to be met. So, you know, thinking of a good example is how people manipulate others into a relationship with them, either through lies or through deception by, by projecting somebody that they are not so that they get that attention and love and importance that they feel they wouldn't have if they didn't use manipulation as a, as a, as a card. Okay. So manipulation becomes, so it has its root even in emotional problems, anger. Anger is another that comes as a result of unmet needs within, within them, maybe of a sense of not feeling important, not feeling significant, and the only way that they can show their power or their control is by the expression of an anger, expression of anger, or the only way that they could show their authority is by, is by putting others in, in that position where they succumb because of the anger of the person. Withdrawal happens as a result of, you know, not, not being able to probably discuss things with another, the ability to become vulnerable and come to a place of understanding. So that's where, again, withdrawal takes place. So through all of these relational problems, what we commonly see is that there is an underlying emotional struggle, which affects the relationship as such. Okay. There are certain life experiences that can cause emotional problems. And we see that there are two, three written here, but there are so many more infidelity, divorce, deaths, failures, multiple rejections maybe at work, improper relationships, you know, separations, abuse, be it physical, emotional, sexual abuses, all of that has a tendency to cause an emotional struggle. So maybe some examples that I can bring up is, let's say, for, for those who've been abused. There is a sense of a lack of, a sense of lack of self-esteem, a sense of lack of trust on others, the inability to express emotions. So as a result, there is a lot of suppression that takes place, a sense of feeling victimized when abuse happens, a sense of not wanting justice, or it can be a rebellion. So the life experiences in itself can cause a lot of emotional, emotional struggles. Okay. For example, infidelity, or let's say divorce, divorce definitely causes a sense of a lack of, a sense of responsibility of, so generally, when you look at young people or young children who have gone through families who've had divorce, you'd hear young children say, have I been responsible for what my parents did go through? So they take that responsibility over themselves that it was because of them that the divorce happened, or it's because they were inadequate, or they could have done something to, to alter that, that experience, right? So life experiences in itself can cause emotional issues. And lastly, physical health, where physical, physical conditions in itself can cause significant emotional struggles, like for example, deformities in the body, handicaps in the body can affect the mind, can affect the soul, or any kind of physical health issues can cause the, can cause difficulty. So I think I just want to bring up what maybe one more example here, which was, which is something that I read. It talks about autoimmune disorders. So autoimmune disorders are those disorders that cause, you know, the very defense cells that we all have that fights illnesses, which come from outside. Those defense cells tend to see their own cells as foreign. Okay. Sorry, please give me a minute. I need to cough. Sorry. Yeah. So the autoimmune disorders are those where the specific defense cells of the individual attacks the healthy cells of the, of that individual. So you, the, the cells do not recognize the body cells as, as its own, it's, it detects us as foreign. And that's what, that's what an autoimmune disorder disorder is. It begins the immune system fights itself. That's what an autoimmune disorder is. And there was this interesting book that, that spoke about how emotional disturbances often have a causal factor in autoimmune disorders. Like, for example, those who have a poor sense of self-esteem tends to belittle themselves or tends to keep bringing themselves down over and over again. And, you know, with that kind of a pattern that the mind follows, it becomes one with the body, the body also begins to follow suit in what it's doing. So a lot of health conditions also do have its, do have its roots in emotional struggles. Okay. So that's, that's to do with the physical, physical health. And, you know, there are in, in, in the book, it talks about certain scriptures where it says a broken spirit dries the bones. So whenever the emotional or the sole part of you is compromised, it does show its effect on, on the body. And I'm sure that even y'all in your experience have seen how when you are emotionally down, there is, there seems to be no physical strength. There is no ability to function physically. You're not able to concentrate, not able to work. A strong emotional issue can bring one down physically as well. So these are some of the conditions. You know, it's not all comprehensive, but then we've spoken about, about a few here. I think, I think just looking up certain questions. I think Kennedy asked, where does autism fall into? Okay, so autism is a developmental disorder, is a developmental disorder, something that comes as a result of a delay in development in some areas of an individual's life. So, so specifically the hallmark of autism is a lack of socialization, inability to socialize with one another with with others, a lack of emotional involvement or expressions as a sense of emotional detachment that is there and the third hallmark is certain repetitive behaviors. It's shown autism is generally shown to have some sense of a developmental issue. It is a developmental issue than it being an emotional issue. However, someone with autism can have emotional concerns. A lot of children people with autism are seen to be intellectually very, you know, very strong, either in some form of a intellectual skill, there's a lot of, a lot of strength in it. But it's in the emotional and the social part that they have not reached the skill or the ability that should have come by. Okay, and it is in, at least in psychiatry, it's seen as a developmental disorder. Okay. Yes, thank you, Rose. Yes, it's intrinsic. Yes, absolutely extraneous and intrinsic. Thank you. Yeah, so is there any any question anything that either in the form of a sharing or in the form of a thought or in the form, anything? Yes. Yes, Samir, please go ahead. Thank you, Pastor. Can you hear me? Yes, I can hear you. Okay, great. So, Pastor, I was wondering, so, say, especially for inner wholeness, a lot of the diseases, the brokenness that we see, if it's, say, a complex or rage or I'm considering a lot of these would have stemmed at an early childhood age. A lot of it might have to do with how a child was brought up, what the child experienced while growing up, what the child was exposed to. And so my thought is, like, let's say, you know, because of something happens to a child and we live in a fallen world and not everything's perfect. And if something happens to a child in his early age, which causes certain behavior traits, whether it's an obsessive compulsive disorder or something and and this person struggles to it. Let's say, you know, for example, say, it could be a believer itself, except for, you know, Christ at a young age, but these, this thing, the disease, the brokenness inside is so prominent and it's a part of his or her character, person struggles and only at a much later stage, this, you know, realizes through the proper teaching and guidance realizes that it has already been healed and then, you know, slowly through right counseling, through a lot of things finally recovers. But then, but then during that period, you know, all the damage that has already been done, all the relationships that has been broken, all the tears, Allah. So, I mean, in one sense, it doesn't seem fair, but again, life's not fair. But my question is around, you know, like, because of something that happens to a child in a very young age and and and all the damage that it does to a person. But then eventually come to a point to realize that it could have all been avoided. The healing could have come the healing could have come at a much younger age. So, is like, how does, how do we, like, how do we get to that? How do we avoid like, I'd say, probably a part of it is the church's responsibility, part of it is responsibility of elders. But, but again, at the same time, you know, recognizing the importance of I think protecting our young ones, but at the same time recognizing what damages have been done to young people and working towards it proactively. I think, you know, just waiting for instead of waiting for a person to realize that I have an inferiority complex because of what happened to my parents when I was four or five years old. Or I have, you know, I have a compulsive disorder because, you know, when I was growing up, this was the environment that I grew up in, you know, later on the person realizing and then looking for help. Is there a proactive way due to rich, a lot of damage that happens to a lot of people's lives where and for some it's like too late, you know, it's only when we like the person's already committed suicide and we realize that because of the history or past like this person became the person he was. So, so I don't know if they're all like other individuals organized like I'm just thinking, you know, very broad context of how can a lot of this be avoided like treatment is one, but avoiding preventive and even early recognition early recognition and proactive working towards these instead of, you know, a late recognition. So I think it's struggling with these thoughts. Okay. Yeah, great. I think that's, that's a great question. However, I don't know how much we how much I can justly answer that but nevertheless I think some of things that we need to probably do is making people aware of the this part of people's lives, the soul part of their lives the emotional part of their lives. And especially in our culture, I think I'll speak for us as the Indian culture, maybe a lot more way down south is, you know, and I don't know how much how many of you all feel the same way. You're not encouraged to discuss emotions you're not encouraged to talk about what you may be going through or or allowed display of some of these emotions. So, you know, I remember as a child, whenever, you know, I felt a sense of anger or hurt or I just wanted to cry. I was asked to stop I was asked to not cry, not emote, or even not talk about it. Right. So what happens is over time, there is a suppression of very many emotions that take place. And that gets built up largely and gets manifested in in wrong patterns, gets manifested in in wrong ways of expressions. So, and something that I do see now, at least because there's so much of awareness about mental health. And there is so much of awareness about thoughts and feelings and emotions. There is the people are being more open about it, people are being at least knowing that, you know, this is something that cannot be stuck in or shouldn't should not have expression to. So, as in the sense of I'd say prevention, this is one is to just as much as you see the physical development or the intellectual or academic development or the spiritual development. The spiritual development of an individual, you also need to look at the emotional development of a young person or as a young child, because this is what if you look at us as a whole, there are different compartments of us. There is, like I was saying, there is the physical part, there is the emotional, there is the intellectual, there is the spiritual, there is the social part of us, all of this makes an individual what they are. I think first and foremost, the most important thing to do is build that awareness that the emotional, the inner person side of you is as valid a person just as much as it is a physical and for those of us who are believers also a spiritual. So, that's one. Early recognition, one way is for more awareness to be built as to how emotional conditions can definitely affect the individual's life, individual's future, individual's purpose and struggle. And this, I think, begins number one at home where parents need to, so often what we tend to do is, there's a book that's called Shepherding a Child's Heart, if any of you are interested, please buy that book and read it, it's an excellent book. It talks about how the behaviors of a child is what is usually focused on, but not the heart behind the behavior. So, often we tend to put a bandage on the behavior, tend to reduce the behavior, reinforce the behavior, but we do not look at the heart of the behavior. So, I think one, the first and foremost place is for parents to be able to work with their children in order to look at the heart of a matter or heart of a behavior or heart of a thought or heart of an intention and what lies within that and work with the child to be able to process that so that, you know, that becomes more pure and more acceptable. And out of the, you know, out of the wellspring of the heart, that's what scripture talks about. So, out of the purity of the heart is what the behavior comes in. So, these are the, I think the two ways that I'd just like to just share. I mean, while you're talking, I just realized a lot of us who is geared towards the intellectual and the physical development of a child, but there isn't much proactive steps taken to the development of an emotional and emotional and the spiritual health and well-being of a child. So, probably, as you mentioned, parents realizing this and equipping themselves to handle emotional and emotional development of a child, but there isn't much proactive steps taken to the development of an emotional and spiritual health and well-being of a child. Yeah, I guess you mentioned, you know, parents realizing this and equipping themselves to handle emotional and spiritual development of children. And even I think spiritual, for a lot of believers, they may have some idea of shepherding spiritual health in Sunday schools and churches do a lot, but I think the emotional development could be a bit tricky. I'm not sure how well people are equipped to handle emotional development of a child. I'll definitely read the book Shepherding a Child's Heart. Yeah, it's by Tendtrip. Okay, yeah, okay. Yes, I think Christopher and Shae, Christopher, you have a question? Or Shae, one of your? Pastor, I think this is related to Sam's question, maybe in a little different approach. This is really about children who may be impacted by some kind of a trauma or some kind of incident, which can impact them. But they're not aware that this event has taken place or maybe there is a defense mechanism which has happened and that event has been, in a sense, forgotten. And it wouldn't really come out of normal therapy session. It just sort of is within that person being, there is a deal with it basically and then it can just sort of get out uncontrollably in different forms. So I guess my question is about how would one treat this kind of situation. Sometimes we hear about people go through some kind of hypnosis therapy where they actually sort of go through a session and this traumatic incident or this traumatic phase in their life, which could have happened even during infancy or when they're a baby. That incident then gets a repeat. So I just want to just get your thoughts on that. Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry. Yeah, so I like I said I'd like to discuss this in two levels. One is for a believer or and maybe an unbeliever. So when there are significant traumas that have happened, especially in childhood, either being too young to remember or as a defense mechanism has absolutely no memory. Of it and that can happen even even in an adult, absolutely having no memory of it because of the shock and the trauma that it has bought. We know that the Holy Spirit is the one who reveals deep truths of us. So I know of people who've been through inner healing sessions where things of their past, which they were not consciously aware of has been revealed to them, either through a prophetic word, or through a personal revelation that is there. And that in itself has bought them to a place of freedom. So I think that is highly recommended for every one of us to go to go through a place of inner healing. And, you know, just just to come to a place of having the spirit reveal things to us that may not be consciously that that we may be consciously aware of, or that we subconsciously have suppressed because of the pain and the struggles it bought. So as a believer, I believe that is possible. The more that we submit to the working of the Holy Spirit, the more that can be revealed and that brings about healing. Like we read in scripture, God wants us to be whole and holy in every area of our lives. And he is desirous to do that when we seek and ask him. Looking at it from people who do not know God, there again, you know, so let's say someone who's not at all conscious about what has been the trauma that happens to them. But the manifestations of that trauma will be very, very evident. Okay. And that happened. So manifestations being, you know, either issues in the relationship, issues in the way that they conduct themselves in the way that they have experiences emotionally, definitely will take them to a place of actually seeking and finding out. And so in that way, yes, counseling and therapy is very useful, where with the permission of the individual, they are allowed and they, you know, they look back into into finding out what have been some of the contributions that has caused them there. Maybe there's certain limits to that because probably psychology may not really deeply dig out that which is forgotten or entrenched or maybe as a child, you know, as a baby, like you said, is something that's happened as a baby or as an infant. But nevertheless, there are certain things that will be revealed. Like I have an example of a lady who told me that she doesn't remember completely, but that she felt and she thought she was abused by her father, sexually abused by her father when she was two or three years old. So there have been manifestations of that, that that struggle in her current relationship. So that's how that information actually came about. So as, you know, she was talking and she was exploring. This was something that she bought up and she said this is not something that I have ever spoken of or I ever thought of, but it just came to me. I just remember very vaguely these things that have happened. So I believe that, you know, as as an individual is helped to explore some things may be revealed and you use what you have or you use what the person is able to bring out and help them to come to a place of healing. Sometimes, you know, things may be so painful that it is it may be better forgotten. These are all for unbelievers may be better forgotten than to actually be bought up because there was I remember another client who who she wasn't aware that she was abused. But but you know, one of her family members had told her that she was abused as a child and that in itself just the revelation of that entire trauma in itself took her to a very different emotional state and it took very, very much to help her to come to terms with one of that. So as a believer, when the Holy Spirit convicts or when the Holy Spirit reveals, he's also bringing in his healing touch. He's also providing healing just as much as an awareness. And that I think is the safest place to do it in knowing that whatever struggles that come as a result of some of those situations, there is power to heal that is powered to to be delivered from. Yeah, I think I'll, I'll leave that answer to that. Yeah. All right, I think we'll close it's 11, almost going to be 1158. May I request anyone to please close in prayer, any, any student to please close in prayer. Rupa, can I? Yes, Avni, go ahead. Avni, go ahead. Avni, you can pray. Please go ahead. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Father God, we just want to thank you, Father. Hearts are full of gratitude towards you, Father, for your so sensitive towards every part of our being, Father. You have made this way for us to be well equipped to learn the things that we would never learn outside, Father, but you made it possible for us to come together in your presence as we sit and learn, Father. May this teaching, may this learning be a great help, Lord Father, to bring healing to the world, to bring healing to ourselves, to bring healing to the people around us, Father, and be a blessing, Lord Father, in the way you want us to bless others, Father. Lead us by your Holy Spirit and equip us well, Father, and Lord Father, teach us what we need to learn, Father. We are open to you, Father. We invite you to come and do the work that you want to do. We thank you for, Ma'am. We ask you to continue to bless her, continue to fill her, continue to lead her Father and help her to be a blessing to many, many, many more generations. We once again thank you for who you are and how you're leading us. We thank you once again for this platform. We give you glory, honour and praise and ask this bread in the precious and matchless name of Lord our Saviour. Amen. Jesus Christ. Amen. God bless you. Thank you. Thank you, Avni. Thank you all. God bless. Thank you so much. Thank you. We meet next time. Thank you. Thank you.