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Man, hey man, listen man, we got a special guest in here today. He don't need no introduction, he don't need no introduction. I mean you know, iconic when it comes to our culture man, this guy right here man is a guy who I've watched man for many, many years, I mean I'm old, you see the grace. I think I was watching him before you don't. For many years you see the grace, she's younger than me guys. Listen, I'm a big fan of this guy man, Mr. Brandon T. Jackson man, thank you for everything that you do bro. I'm just a humble servant that wore a dress. We're not starting this like that. I'm starting like that. Listen man, listen. You know what's beautiful about everything in life is that when you know who you are nothing can shake you you know and sometimes when it do shake you you got to get back on your horse. You got to ride out and that's where I love it. That's real man. You got to come to a podcast. Come on man, I boss talk with no shirt. Stop playing. What's your shirt at? Where is my shirt? Come on man. Just appreciate you for coming through Mr. Maker, let's get in this business just a little bit. Yes, so I know you were born and raised in Bloomfield. I was born and raised and I was born in Dearborn, Michigan and then I was raised in Detroit and West Bloomfield. Okay. That's cool. So Detroit is the hood right as we know for the most part now it's gentrified but when I was coming up it was the hood. I grew up in Palmer Woods which is kind of like the dignitary. So I'm like the Fresh Prince of Detroit and then my dad he moved us to West Bloomfield which is like the Beverly Hills of Michigan. How old were you when you moved? I was 19. Oh so you were a huge experience. I'm a daywalker. Right. So. You know what a daywalker means? Like you have vampire. I'm half hood. I'm half suburb. I'm a corporate thug. You know what I mean? It wasn't hard for you to adjust when you first made that move? Oh my God. My school was so white they put my picture in every grade in the yearbooks of the school can look diverse. You were that one black guy in the room. We played black teams. They trying to get me to start. I'm like bro we going to lose. I can't dunk like them. I can test the rim though. I can test the rim though. Man. Wow. I just really like I said man I see you you started it off right you know. I'm a dive in you know. I'm really like like your name you know it carries weight. Praise God. You know listen man. Praise God man. 43 million views right now for Shannon Shore. Yeah. That means your name has been mentioned. I was so happy. 43 million views. I was so happy that I was this. Mike Epps was upset. You saw that? I'm like thank you Cap for this and me. I didn't say you could have called my name. Call my name please. I just really. It was amazing. I mean you know because I called Faiza on that day you know. I was like man they didn't call your name by two times on here. He said all right I'm going to call you back. He called me back. What? What did you say? I said bro it's still going on right now. You know how many calls I got? Bro. Yo. Cat said I'm like yo let's go. My ticket sold out thank you Cat. And the dark matter tour. I love you guys. Oh man. Shout out to Cat Williams for that. I just like I said when I look at something like that you know. God had blessed me. I'm dealing with a lot of comedians. I promise you that's what I'm dealing with. I see it. And so when I think about when I thought about you. I was like man I'm for the comic. He coming to what? This ain't number God. You know that's how I wrote it. Come on now. Oh this ain't number God. Come on now. He coming here and I'm a man to love God. So this is going to work. I turn around and I hit you up. But the thing I really was looking at was like dang. I wonder how you feel about him mentioning his name. After all these years. Because you mentioned his name back when he was. You thought he was heckling you. Yeah I thought he was hate on me. That girl I don't know who she was but she was trying to stop you from talking. Because Cat. Oh that was that. What was that? Bro that's the one I just called. Oh that was her? That's her. She was trying to protect me because I'm not a slave. I'm a free man. You don't have a sense sir. I'm a free man. I talk what I say and if it gets me in trouble it's like yo that's between God and society. But the thing is this cat never spoke to me directly. Okay. So I took it as a heckle. He's being immediate. I'm brand new you shouldn't have worn a dress. I'm like nigga could you call me directly and tell me at the time. I'm 25 years old you know doing a film with Martin. I'm like why is he so mad that I'm doing a film with Martin Lawrence. He ain't know me. That's what I thought. But he was trying to warn me. I know. He was trying to say Brandon. But the way he says it because every time I say cat he's like Brandon T. Jackson I'm not talking to you anymore. I'm like what did I do? And you know what you did. I'm like nigga could you sit me down and tell me the actual history of what we call buck breaking. What we call emasculating men in society. And shout out to all communities. You know we're not going to bash any communities. When we're talking about heterosexual men and we're talking about men that take care of families. These are things that we have to understand that the psychologically on us as actors we have to deal with so much. You know and we don't want to feel like we're bashing people. What we also want to do is be true to who we are. And it's tough because it's like when something compromises your spirituality or what you feel your manhood you know or what you identify as. You know what I'm saying? So if someone tells me I identify as this and you challenged them you're now what's the word I'm looking for. You're combating the identification. Yeah. And they always say what's acting is acting. Okay cool. I'm going to tell you something about acting. Robert Downing Jr. was really black in that scene. I seen it. He came late to the set one time. He's like you know how we always late. I said no I don't know how we always late. He was black for real. He went all the way in on this one. Mentally great actors live it. He studied it. Great actors live what we say. So you want me to live a lifestyle that I'm not accustomed to I should say. So now I'm living a lifestyle I'm not accustomed to. And to play it it's like those things can come off very psychologically damaging where you have to get therapy mental help because you're living the lifestyle of something you're not accustomed to. Don't they call that method acting or something like that. But I'm a method actor. That's why I got Hennessy in my cut right now. I'm acting as a comedian doing. Short he mentioned that on the show. He did. He was saying that in the beginning when he was acting that's what he would do but then that's not healthy because then some people don't know how to come back out of that character when it's time to go home. Let me tell you something about method acting. Let me tell you something about Leonardo DiCaprio. He said I don't act a channel. You understand what that means? That's a spiritual energy that people don't understand. When you channel a character you know what I mean. That's so funny. I know this might be a sound bite. I watch how I say it. My counterpart, my partner, my beautiful 50% wife who I'm getting back with right now told me that I'm very emotional back in the day. Not now. I got under control. I'm not so emotional like this. Maybe I'm big mama. What the fuck? What's going on? You know what I'm saying? It's because when you play certain roles if you tap into those roles then you become them and they follow you. When I said I was broke on lottery ticket I was broke for a season in my life but I took on the oppression of the people and I spoke how we felt and that came on me so I said oh wait a minute hold on. So when Kat said what he said I was so engulfed and loved it because what he's saying is true. You can't just, that's what people think you're so slick. Certain entities think they're so slick when they say okay I want you to play this. Just that we've had a problem with the training day thing. He lived that. He said that he couldn't come back from it. Really? His wife? That was a whole thing. He had to like repro, okay look at Matthew McConae. He did that movie Dallas. I remember that. It's going to sound so bad. I know it's a sound bite. You said the right way because I know how people edit. So I'm going to say it the right way. The comedian version with me will say if Kat, I'm going to say it in Kat's voice. Ever since Matthew McConae did the movie Dallas his neck has never been the same. I'm saying in Kat's voice. That's hard though. If I say it in my voice thinking about all his brains because I'm a dramatic actor and I'm also a comedian so what I say and I'm also a spiritual entity so what I say holds so much weight sometimes that it shocks the matrix so much. We're like oh, you know he ain't got a shirt on I haven't seen him since Big Mama's and Lottery ticket. It's crazy. They have this like persona. They're chasing shadows. Okay when you've seen that Kat had said that where were you at when you first heard about it? I was asleep. Somebody woke you up? Yeah, he got a call. I got a call, man. I got a call to me. He said, what did he say exactly? Here's what's funny. He's like, here's what's funny about those things. I told Brandon D Jackson not to wear the dress but then I told them to go get Brandon D Jackson to wear the dress. I'm like, does it get pimped? He told me not to wear the dress but then he said I told them to go get Brandon D Jackson. That's who y'all want. I'm like, why are you going to refer me to the devil? Don't refer me to the devil because I know you because you would have did it. I'm 23, nigga, 25, whatever. See when I saw that I'm like, okay, so was it because of him, why you got that role? You know what's funny? I thought the same thing. I'm like yo, you should have called me. If you were in the meeting with agencies talking about, you know, Brandon D Jackson, you go get him. That's who y'all want. I'm like, we should get Brandon. I'm like, okay, but the movie, I ain't going to lie, I enjoyed the movie, bro. I'm not going to sit here and play with y'all and act like I didn't like the movie because I'm going to be real with you. I'm a Martin fan, too. I'm a Martin fan. I did not feel like watching the movie from a female perspective, looking at you wearing a dress, I did not feel like, okay, he's bisexual, he's gay, he's this, he's that, whatever. I did not feel that. No, me neither. I'm looking at you like, yeah, he's trying to get in on them girls. That's what he's trying to get. He's trying to get closer to them girls. Everyone says that, right? So here's what I say about the Big Mama's house. I'm a Martin fan. Me, too. If Martin sits you down at a Ruth's Chris with a big diamond ring on saying, you could be like me. Don't you want to make five, ten, twenty million a movie? At 24, 25? 24 is when I shot at 25, I think when it came out. You know what I'm saying? So it's always weird to me when I do ages and my shooting, because shooting, they edit it, it comes out. So when you hear that, you're like, okay, it's Martin Lawrence. You know what I mean? You're going to say, you know the Martin at a Ruth's Chris? I mean, I mean, stay like this. We're going to do this movie. I want that ring. No, you, like I said, man, I know that you were younger though, but if you had it to do all over again, you're saying you wouldn't have done it. I wouldn't, but I also wouldn't bash any other communities because God is dealing with every community and I don't want anybody to feel that my standpoint on my spirituality is the all-be of their journey. Yeah. Because, and I know that sounds very vague and like, you know, pandering, I would say, but I would say because God is dealing with me in my journey. Y'all just met me over there. Yeah. I'm getting Jameson shots over here. Yeah. Yeah. Talking to this lady over here about messages God has given me. You cannot say that God can't use any community on what he wants to prove for his example. And that's why I don't bash other communities. I'm saying I won't do it again. Yeah. I'm not going to do it again. Yeah. But at that age, where were you? I was not going to do it. I think it was stupid. Where were you spiritually though? Well, I was born and I strayed. I was born and... I know because you have mom and dad preachers. Yes. And my grandmother. And your grandfather. And my great grandfather. I loved when I researched it. And your grandfather. Preacher's kids is bad. Sometimes. I said what I said. Preacher's kids is bad. Listen. I have some friends. We go to the club. We go to the strip club. We go to the gospel strip club. I told you, see, I know you called it when you were younger because of that. They put their clothes on at the gospel church. They got quiet rules. No, man, but I know it's tough. I know it's tough growing up. How was that pressure though? I challenged religion. I challenged every spirituality. When you were younger, you did? Because you had to do whatever your parents said when you were a kid. When I got around 18, it's where I was like, you know, why does God always need money? I still ask that question. Is that your first question that you asked when you started thinking about it? Yeah. The first question I asked was, why does God always need money? You know, like if he's God, he doesn't care about these slave notes, right? Yeah. That we, we all ask this question. Everybody. Everybody. But then you realize that we're in a system of capitalism and in time that God is dealing with America or any other country in the system that he allowed to be set up. This is the only effective way to get out the word. This is what preachers want to say. The only way I can get the word out is if y'all pay, you know, it sounds bad because no matter what happens, everybody's asking for money. Listen, I'm going to tell you right now, whether you're ready, I'm going to go down it. Everybody always have a problem with religion and money, but then you don't have a problem with strippers and money. I could agree with that. Okay. So let's take it like this. Look at lessons of evil because we so mad when preachers ask for money, right? Even if they're righteous, not the fake, like I'm, I got a movie I'm writing about this, but they're doing something behind the scenes. Let's just say everything in America costs money, right? To get the good messages of God out, you have to push it and push the money. You have to, what's the word I'm looking for? You have to, people got to be paid. Hey, you have the staff, the deacons, everything. The bills. Say anything else, the bills, the building. This is the bank structure built by America, not by the church. Right. It's not built by the Almighty's kingdom. In the Almighty's kingdom, there's no money. Yeah. And this is where the scam come in. Tell everybody to work for free. They can't. Exactly. Because they got to pay their own bills. Exactly. I got to say this though. There are so many different ways that so many different people look at what they read and how they do to the Word of God. Right? When you think about like, like, like, he comes back and say, I shouldn't have never even done the tired thing like that. I should have, I don't want to restructure what I'm doing. Well, because he's reading the actual scriptures, but that was right. But that was in Israel. I know what you're about to say. That was in the land. That's right. In the land when you're free and there's no dictation of how you feel, you, you, you, you, you set the standard of the law, which means the law said that God says, bring this plants and whatever. But the law is on the democracy, which is a Roman Empire. Yeah. You can't, you can't. It's like you're trying to be righteous in a wicked society the best you can. You think about it, man. Like I always tell people that's a, And that's where the promise land came in. When you look at Second Corinthians and you go into 9, 10 and 11 and 12 verses, I mean chapters, you start to see where the people would be manipulated and they would have money taken from them. But they wasn't able to give. And so Paul was saying, y'all let people come in and take money from y'all when y'all wasn't able to give. But the Bible, Hold on, hold on. I don't think I'm saying this. You got it. Basically, the spirit should allow you to know when people are able to give and when they're not, when you're a leader. That's all I think highly about that because some people, I've been to places, she know how I am. I'll go there. If it's something don't look right. It feels like a tax. I will tell them like this, these people shouldn't be paying you. They don't even have the money. I have been taught, I taught at homeless shelters where people were taking money from people. They were trying to give me money. I'm like, I got a home. You know what I'm saying? I had to tell them because with other people that was coming in, I felt Paul on that because I seen that happen. And I'm like, they shouldn't be taking money from people who are not able to give even though they got a little something. You know what I'm saying? But then those people think if you don't take it, I'm not going to be blessed. Well, let's look at like this. Every nation that is founded on, how do I say this the right way without getting in trouble? This man going to get in trouble every time he talk anyway. No, no, because I know how to talk. I know how to say it because I'm knowledgeable when it comes to scriptures. What I'm saying is that there's no kingdom of God on the earth that's putting the law of God on the earth fully. Democracy is controlling the narrative. Thank you, Father. It's controlling the narrative of everything. So in the in the kingdom is a monarchy, which is Christ is the king. David is the second, right? If you want to talk about scriptures and then you have the children of Israel, right? So when you talk about these things, that structure is not in place right now. So now we have to deal with democracy, which is like, okay, if you were to challenge the Bible, you could say the Bible is, you won't say it's communist. You won't say it's fascist. You would say the Bible is a monarchy. The Bible is a monarchy. The kingdom of God is a monarchy, period. We are in a democracy. So how do you establish your, the message of God to, thank you, Father, to strive towards the kingdom, as we say, the righteous order, as we say, right? And then do it in a democracy. Those are two different civilization types of mindsets. So when you start talking about monarchy, if something right now, they're saying right now, Trump is trying to take over the democracy and become a communist monarchy and he's the king or whatever. That's the big play on Trump. Now think about this. Everything that we fight against in democracy is what the Bible says to do in a monarchy. If I'm saying that right, excuse me. Am I saying that right? Monarchy? Monarchy? Because my Detroit accent is coming in. That's all love. So in the kingdom, there's a king. It's called the kingdom. It's a king. And there's 24 elders, right? So that's your senate. That's your state, right? But they have no vote over the king. If we say Christ the king, right? Everybody says Christ is the king, right? Somebody's going to crack the sky and set up a righteous government. It doesn't fit with democracy. No, I get it. Democracy is a manipulated version of the kingdom. Just so you understand. So tithes, you can't do pure tithes in a democracy. That's real. I got to say this. Was that too deep? No, no, it's very deep. I want to say this too. I want to say it's very deep. I got to say this too. I see why LeBowile said you was too religious for him. No, no, no. No, no, you left him. Because he wasn't able to understand. He would look at that as totally as religion. Think about that for a minute. No, that's socially and political structures. But in person, not understanding a lot of stuff. That's social and political structures. When it comes to the word of God and stuff, people a lot of times shot back because they don't understand. No, no, forget religion. I hate religion. I said it right. I hate religion. I'm talking about social and political structures. Christ came to stop. No, I agree. Look at this. So you understand? I'm not religious. I'm not a religious man. I'm not. I'm talking about social and political structures. Right? And when you talk about this, our people, like you said, they'll divert. That's right. That's what I'm telling you. They'll divert. Bye bye, amen. And I love Bob. Like, bro. He's saying it. I've seen it. But then we can't ask for freedom. We got to then be a democracy. It's fine. I'm with it. Let's go. Chest out. Back in Hollywood. Woo. You know, when you knew he was, like, feeling away, like saying, oh, you know, he's right. He said, I'll never build another lottery, too, because, amen. Brandon. Brandon. Brandon. Brandon. Brandon. And went another way. Two religious. When he said that, what did you think? I don't know. Because I wasn't mad at it because I know he didn't understand what I was saying. And, by all, I was my friend. We talked about the BET Awards. And I'm happy you back. I'm happy I'm back, too. No, it's real. That's real. Back from what? Back from... He had a... I'm going to tell you why. I got to hear this. I'm going to tell you. Back from the knowledge that I have is giving me from God. Sometimes you can't express it. Like you say, when people hear that, it's about religion. It's going to say religion. Right? Because they don't understand. And this is why white people always buy me. Because they understand, I understand what they know. And I understand what everybody... What people that don't know. It's just common structures. Like civilizations. It's like, how we... With these cameras, the podcast. Because we know that on a podcast, we can... You got the whole camera set up. This is a structure. That's right. So, when you start talking knowledge to people, like, man, man, man, man, let's get these bitches. That's all they want. You know what I'm saying? They don't want to hear... It's not even about truth. It's just like the structure. It's like, okay, get up at 5 a.m. I work out at 7. I eat this. I eat that. It's just structure. When you talk... So, what I'm saying, when I talk actual structure, and anytime you talk structure, and society, and this is the frustrations you have when God gives you knowledge. It's a gift. Yeah, but it's also a curse. Because when you try to relay the knowledge to people, they tend to look at you as a religious zealot. They tend to look at you as somebody that you're better than them. And you're just trying to get them to see the common sense of life. Okay. Well, the thing I can say to you, man, is you got to understand, man, that, like you said earlier, when you say something, it holds weight. Yes. It's powerful because of... It's like you got to understand. It's like when you're dealing with power, with God's structure behind it, it basically gives you... There's a power, a dunamis. You know what I mean? Oh, come on now. There's a power in what you do, what you say that regularly the natural mind can perceive the things of spiritual, of the spiritual... Well, this is natural stuff I'm saying. It's like how do you build a building? It's just construct. If I was to write a script, we have 95 pages. We have the first act, the second act, the third act. It's just structures. And I realized that a lot of people don't like structure. But you're building the infrastructure, but y'all say, y'all hate the infrastructure. When I say, y'all, I'm someone, people who don't like structure are still on the internet, which is the infrastructure, the platform that we're all making money off of, that we're doing, it's still infrastructure. That's right. So when I'm talking about another platform of infrastructure, they usually are crazy because they don't understand infrastructure. They're just going with the status quo. I got to ask you, man. We got to get into some... I got to get into some... I'm sorry about that. No, man. You went in. You went in. That doesn't even mean going in. I know that. We can go building. That doesn't even mean going in. The question was, okay, being that you come from such a religious background. Spiritual background. Spiritual background. Father, grandfather, so forth. I don't believe in religion, by the way. I know you said that before. I'm going to say it again. I hope you put that on your... I do not believe in religion. I believe in the almighty God and it's in his lifestyles. But since you came from that background, how do they feel about... how you feel about things right now? Everyone knows everything's broken. Really, the world is getting better right now? Is it really? No. Is it? I like the way you said that. Is it really? Do you remember what I said? I like the way you said that. Judge a tree by a fruit of berries. It's the world getting better right now. Do we feel better? Good. But the reason why I ask you that because I know that when you have those roots like that, sometimes tradition plays a big part where they're not able to change their thinking. That's on them. I can't do it again. That's what my communion is. And then you come this way. That's why I got my shirt off. You know that... I don't care about tradition. In Christ, take tradition and turn on his back. I don't care about the traditions of men. I don't care about all this extra stuff. That's real. Because it's all a scam. Matthew 15's tradition of men made the winner go out of none effect. They become none effective when you start. It's not effective. And I'm not trying to bring religion. I know what you're saying. We don't want to bring religion but we want to bring religious books. There is good things. So the purity of the book. That's right. But people take the purity of the book and they take it and they go left with it. That's real. And then now you got this whole thing that we're... You know what I'm saying? We got a whole other thing going on. That's because people are not well read as it pertains to literature, understanding, man. It's a lot. Man, when you read the Bible, or any holy book as an actor, you can see it even more because you're looking at how it's played out and how it was written. I'm a writer, actor, and producer. So I'm looking at the whole thing. You go, okay, we got Shakespearean. Okay, they did this here. I'm looking at the style. That's right. You're getting the camera. Don't never give an actor a Bible. That's real though. No, I get it. Don't give that because we're going to break it down like we're about to play it. Play it. I really... I should have been in the book of Clarence. Forget y'all. You think that's gonna be a really good movie? It's gonna be a... I mean, no matter what, I like the imaging. That's real. There's probably gonna be some stuff in there, but that don't make sense. But I like the imaging of our people, and it seems so right. Just looking like that. Y'all should go see it. He said, I'm the 13th apostle. I gotta be that. I gotta ask you, have you... I love it. Since all this stuff has happened all these years have passed. That was a smart way to get more imaging. Martin Lawrence, have you spoken to him? Do y'all have a relationship? I was supposed to go through his charity event, and I was out of town with my family, so... So you hadn't spoken to him in years? By the way, I love Martin Lawrence. I love Cat Williams. I love Kevin Hart. I love Eddie Murphy. These are my brothers. Mike Epps, I love you. We've had amazing times as brotherhood. Like, you know what I'm saying? I know I'm saying that with an open shirt, and you're like, Don't be saying you got... No, I did a movie called Roll Bones with Mike. Yeah, you sure did. Mike is amazing, man. I'm really... My thing is, when I talk to people on this show, and if you watch this show, you know I... I love FaZe out there. Shout out to FaZe out there. That's my point now. Don't mess around, but I'm just gonna say, The internet has taken over when it comes down to comedians coming up, getting on the grind. They don't go to a lot of these old places where y'all used to go in these old buildings and do y'all set up, and y'all get y'all... Y'all respect that way. Now, they can do, like, my boy, Deadzy Banks, Country Wayne. Shout out to them. So, they come in a different way. Like, when it comes down to these two different things, when I came into this game, I started to see that there was a schism, there was a split to where some would say, Hey, they didn't come in the right way. Some would say, Wait a minute, some would say, Hey, you know these guys, you know what I'm saying? They good. Like, Mike, I see him rocking with Deadzy a lot, and Bubba Dub, that's my boy. You know, I'm just saying, like, how do you feel when it comes down to the old traditional way that the comedians came into the game versus the way they do now and the money they make because they make some money? You see it. They're amazing. I think Mojo, Mojo, shout out to Mojo, shout out to Deadzy, shout out to Country Wayne. All I'd say is that please study the art of acting. Okay. It may not even matter because they get numbers. They do. And they have an audience that they're entertaining, and I respect that. And I respect the fact that they're doing their things. The thing is that, like, I just always wanted to be on screen with Denzel and Eddie and Martin and these guys are just actors, you know what I mean? Just high-level actors, and now you have to do other things. But with the technology that's going on, it's almost like saying, Charlie Chaplin, how do you feel about an actor that talks? You know, you got the new wave coming in. Charlie was amazing. But you got talkies now that got the talkies. So the internet comedians, they're the new version. They're the talkies of technology. So if you can't cross over with the talkies, then, you know, the moment, it's not funny, but it's kind of sad at the same time. But the moment Charlie Chaplin heard his voice, they didn't like it. Wow. And it messed his career up. And he stayed in the time of silent films. So I try to always embrace the new. Stay classic. Stay amazing because that's timeless. And once you can be timeless, your spirit can go in any form of structure. I don't know how y'all can cut this up. I don't even know how y'all can cut this up. They put headlines on the internet, Brandon Jackson shirt is off, and he's got wounds. I'm gonna say that. No, I just want to, I really want to understand, like, what do you say to them? Like, you know that you came from a different, you come from no school. What do you say to those youngsters when you run into them? I say study. Study? Study? You do tell them that. I've only run into Mojo. Okay. And I encourage them to study film. And that's it. That's it, okay. Because they all want to get, here's the scam on me. I'm on the internet. I'm popular. But then they all want to get into film. That's real. Now, now you're going to sit down for three months. You try to do your sketches. Now you got to do your sketch in a hotel room or your apartment or your thing, condo, while you're doing a film and learning all these lines. See, I write, produce, direct, all that stuff. I do all of it. Because Ben still is my mentor. That's my boy. I was going to ask you about it. Ben still is my mentor. So I'm about, you know, I'm about the, you know, the white boys going in, typing while we in the club. They type in movies while we in a damn club. Wow. That's the shit I like. Excuse my language, but that's the shit like, when we in the club, they're like, hey bro, what are you, they're listening to everybody and typing movies. Wow. While popping bottles. Hard. You know what I mean? I'm like, okay, Seth Rogen, all these guys, they're just having the best time ever. Feeling the culture while they're writing films for Paramount. Wow. That's what I'm used to. That's whole. That's the class I come from. I love it. But when things and times has changed so much, where like, I remember growing up, back in the days, you didn't have to be, you didn't have people making their own film. You didn't have, it was like such, like unattainable, unattainable to just a regular joe. It's like you had to go to acting class. You had to go get a certain, you had to go through certain things to get to where you are. Yeah. Now it's become a thing where you want to be in a movie. Okay, let's go. I got some cameras. I got this and that. Let me fill this and then pitch this to 2B or whoever and get my movie out. Well, I believe that reaches the glass ceiling because at a certain time we start laughing at it and then we want to see better. But he's not saying that you heard what he said. I can show you a 2B movie right here and he just showed you, oh man, he died this. And he showed me pretty much how every, like low budget 2B movie that hadn't been thrown out through thoroughly is being pushed out there. Shout out to 2B movies. Are you from the 2B world? I'm from Detroit. So you pushing 2B out there? You pushing, No, I support young filmmakers that's trying to do their thing. Okay. Because they all from my city. By the way, we're the number one city that's putting out these movies. Really? Yeah, I'm sorry. Wow. When you did Envy, you was a kid. I did Envy when I was like 16. That's right. So that was a time where when you think about it and you go back to that place versus doing something now, how would you go in and illustrate because you wasn't producing back then, of course, but how would you go in today? How do you set it up for us? When I see your 2B film versus, you know, one of the ones that, you know, my boy in right there, you know what I'm talking about? The goop. You know what I'm talking about? What we got to do, we got to give the filmmakers time to learn how to make great films. Okay. It's drug dealing, turning to movies. You take your drug money and you put it into films and you can't down anybody because they didn't go to film school. They just trying to make money for their family. You heard you made million dollars over here, million over here. Just give me over 2B. Of course I'm going to, you know, try. If I know I can make a way, that's the only thing I'm going to love about our people. We will make a way out of no way. We'll be like, look, I got these cameras. I'm going to set it up and we're going to do the best we can. We're going to just get better as we go. The problem is, is that once it gets time to, when it gets down to the thing and they didn't expect for 2B to be branded the way it is, because the way it is is like the black network. Not even a black network. It's not even BET. It's like the worst black network. Because it used to feel like it was all these bootleg movies. I used to always see on 2B. I used to hate watching 2B. And they made billions of dollars. They made money didn't. Fox ain't going to give you if it ain't making money. Listen, they made billions of dollars. And now that they have the billions of dollars, they're going to do a rock star, big names, whatever. But we still built them. Just like when Martin wasn't nothing. It's like when Living Color wasn't nothing. All these things was just some independent. Oh, who's Kenan Harvey Wains? Oh, blah, blah, blah. Eddie Murphy's friend. And now they became one of the hottest shows ever. It's the same thing, different time, different structures. So I love that our people made a billion dollars with 2B. But now you have to move. Now we're evolving. And 2B, I'm out there to speak for the network because I have a deal with them. I would say this, that I know something that the quality and standards had to come up anyways. You know, and that's why I can't say when Cat Williams talking about black content and how we need to get it to come up. I mean, he had a whole run with 2B. The money he makes on one show could have funded thousands of 2B movies. I see 2B movies making for $5,000, $10,000. Yeah, but how do you get the information to where you, because he's a sharp dude, but how do you make that bridge? You got to listen. You got to listen. It's hard to get somebody to listen with money, man. Well, there you go. I'm just being real. But it's real. But that's personal choice. Yeah. So if someone, if you want the pulse of the culture, which he is, and you know, and that's why I got my new book called Producer's State of Mind. Producer's State of Mind, and Actor's State of Mind is already out and Producer's State of Mind. I knew about it. You know what I'm saying? Does 2B ever get to a point where it's competing with what Hollywood has established? What do you mean? It is Hollywood. I know it, but I mean it. But it's coming up a different way. Shout out to Adam Lewis and who produced Big Mama's House. Shout out to Adam Lewis and who produced two of my movies. Who's the executive over at 2B. So he comes straight. It's the same thing. I get it. People. That's hard. But I had a producer came on here, and he's actually did his own movie. Shout out to all my Heather. Thank you so much for being my deal. Shout out to all my white friends. Love y'all so much. That's real. And he said that the so-called bootleg movies, the worst-looking movies get more views than the... Who said that? Someone else who actually have a film on 2B. Really? He's smart. He said they get... What's his name? He's from Arkansas, isn't it? Yeah, but that's great for viewership. But... I'll see James. I'll see James, yeah. I'll see James. He said that the worst ones get way more views. Because he had good quality and he was upset because he did that whole movie on his own. Independent. It was a great deal. Is that true? But then there's branding. But then there's branding. In fact, 2B had a Super Bowl commercial. They don't want to be branded as the ghetto network. And no offense, I love those movies. Because I'm from Detroit, I understand it. But I'm like, it's just corporate advertising. Then there becomes financial instruments, which I talk about in my book. Man, I gotta shoot. They don't need... They just need enough. Say it like that. They just need enough. They need enough viewership and then you can bring in financial instruments. I gotta ask you, did you... What made you not... You was gonna take the role in coming to America too. Yeah. But you decided not to go that route. What was the reasoning behind it? I just didn't like the script. I love Eddie Murphy. I just was a little scarred with other things I've done. And I wanted to not play a bunch of people's sons. So, that's it. It wasn't something to worry about. Okay, so you know, leaving that, you know how important it is when you go into a role, how it affects you later on, now that you've been through the stuff that you've been through. From Lollery Ticket, I'm doing mamas from Percy, all this stuff. I got it. I see the spirituality attached to it. And I just look at it and go, okay, how does this look? Okay, Bobo. And then, you know, prayerfully, you don't have to see my internet. Being like, yo, y'all, they just changed the script. Because I know what it means. I know what it is. So, it's only spirituality. Only in that aspect, you're talking about it affects you. It doesn't affect you as in getting future roles. It just affects you personally, like, with the roles that you're picking, why you're not picking certain roles. I mean, you realize they reproduced what, like this day, we've always been in Zell because he made a pathway for that. Right. Me, they will always look at me for the better guy who's going to do this thing because I made a pathway for that. I'm changing my pathway. Not saying it's going to be perfect, but I'm changing my pathway. And that's where they're, that's why we're doing these interviews. Right. And not many can do that because I know that, I remember seeing an interview with that gentleman on Jamie Foxx show. Which one? The Square. I call him The Square. The light skin. What's his name again? Braxton. And he said that. Yeah, he went in to an audition and his biggest pet peeve is when you go into an audition and the person sitting there interviewing you, looking at you as Braxton, he's calling you Braxton like, hello, that's not what I'm coming in here for. Yeah, well, he defined that character and he's a really good actor. I mean, that's one of those things where you got, it's hard to shake. Back then it wasn't things to shake it, but that's why I do these podcasts. Oh, that's Brandon. Okay, because if I'm not going to make my name in Hollywood, which I will, the people will know who I am because I'm defining my story about what I say. Hopefully it's edited right and then it's not a false headline, which I trust the integrity of this boss talk, which that's why I came on here. Right. Well, I'm coming up there whenever you release these moves, like when I went and did that and you know, will it down there? I'm coming to Detroit. I want to help, you know, like when movies are coming out, I be wanting to be in the midst of our people, man, because I have a... We over there, we've got DR2 Studio, Sobdenus Reed. I was going to ask you that. I want to know the build up. Well, you ain't getting out of the structure and the build up of DR2. I want you to explain to me how you guys even developed it, how it came to be. That's a deeper conversation. I can't talk about it. Really? Well, we're in the middle of lawyers right now in a good way. In a good way. Okay. So we're in a deal, so I don't want to talk about what is coming because you don't want to project, but I'll tell you this, it's some big things coming. Okay. And shout out to all my white friends. Shout out to Sam Horitz. Shout out to... Who else? Adam Lewison. Shout out to Heather who gave me my deal over there. Shout out to Netflix. Shout out to Peacock. Shout out to everybody that's blessing us real quick just because I'm not a house Negro, but I love you guys. You guys are my friends. I got to ask you about just the standard like how therapeutic it is. How much does it help you when you're going at stage to talk about the things that you know that you've been through? How much does that push the scale forward? Well, it gives you a chance. John the Majors can never say what really happened unless he goes on on ABC and they edit it a certain way. You know? That scares me. So I always stay on stage. I got to ask you a question. So how big... Okay, being an actor, being a stand-up comic, doing the things that you've been doing from a young age, how does mental health affect you? Being able to balance your regular life with your work life and actually like as you said to shaking all of that off. Do you have to see a therapist? No, just pray. Pray fast. You know. Talk to God. God's my therapist. In everything. In everything. I give all glory to the Mosai. I don't care. Y'all can say what y'all want to say. I'm not religious. But I give all glory to the Mosai or the creator or the universe, whatever you want to call it. Everybody got a different name. Hashem, Jesus, whatever y'all want to call it. The universe, whatever. That's what I give glory to. Because everybody at one point, no matter even if you believe in God, you still have to deal with mental attacks. Yeah, the Almighty teaches us how to do that. So give me an example of something that came on you one day and you had to... Because there's young kids, there are people who watch these shows. And I like to help people through these cameras. How did you deal with it? How did you overcome it? Give me that obstacle. You never had it? So you never had obstacles at all? No, no. I had a lot of obstacles because of my mental health. It was almost trying to just figure it out. It's like, you know, we don't deny mental health, but I'm saying it was almost trying to... You're going through a journey. And I can't say everyone came from a strong background. I came from so I can't really not be empathetic, but I will say turn to what's inside you, turn to that voice that tells you, you know, the truth on what you should do that's better, that's better meant for you. And for me, it comes from the Holy Scriptures. And if you don't have that, there's also a survivalist thing that humans have, that you have to lean on survival. Lean on if you want to live, if that's your choice. You can't control everything, but what you can do, you can control how you react to everything. And that's what I seem to understand. So as much healthy, if you want that change, some people don't want to change. So you can't just be like, oh, I went through this thing and now I'm sad, you know, how do I feel? Okay, now I want to hurt myself, right? Who do I turn to? Okay, you got drugs, alcohol, women, and whatever. You said I got to look inside. It's the same thing. You know, these messages been going on for so long with the Wizard of Oz. You know, Dorothy was already home. It means everything inside you, Christ, the Kingdom is in you. You have to choose to bring that thing out inside of you to go to the next level. That's a personal choice. And that's why you can't interfere. All you can do is inspire. You can't interfere. You can inspire for them to go to that choice. You know? It's deep. I know. Every time I get deep, I feel like you're going to edit it. No. Don't edit it. You need to go watch Boss Talk. I'm there right here. That's what I do. I love it. Don't edit it, bro. Bro, what I'm editing for? It's all really, really organic. And the people need to know the truth, bro. Jesus turned my water into Hennessy. No, because the reason why I always say that or something like that is because when I think about the generation that we're in, when I say mental health, because growing up, when people start first talking about it, I'm like being an older person, I'm like, okay, what are you all talking about mental health? You just need a good whooping or you need a good whatever and move on or have a tougher skin. But what I've realized about this generation is the fact that the reason why people think the way how they do or react the way they do is because they have traumatic things that happen. When I say traumatic, I don't mean nothing like, doesn't have to be anything crazy, like rape or anything like that. It could be just neglect. You're a father. You didn't pay me attention, whatever. And because of that, this is the way the reason why I am like how I am as I got older and people don't look back on their childhood and really reflect and like, okay, why do I do this? It's because of this. How can I restructure my thinking so I can now be progressive in how I move forward? Well, that's the lack of mentorship in our community and when there is the answers and the problems, I was saying to somebody, you can't bring problems or solutions. A lot of us like to bring problems. Wait a minute. That's what, that was the whole deal with like Cat Williams and all the stuff that was said. It was a lot of issues that was resolved for him. He spoke on them. He spoke on a lot of stuff. We don't have a solution. You know what I mean? I took seven years off of my career to find solutions for African-Americans. Seven years. Seven years. Seven hard years. I almost lost my house trying to build and build solutions for African-Americans and I did it. You know what I presented to them? They said I was a devil. Who did you present it to? Oh, I got a lot of solutions. Just don't, don't get me started. Okay, but... I got so many solutions for us to make it that if we chose to do it, we would do it. If not, that's on us and that's why no other nationality feels sorry for us because we do not choose to win because of trauma, as she says. Okay. Okay. You are... That's real. I used to be a leader also. When you are a leader to God, you always sound above the people. I'm not above the people. I'm with y'all. Don't forget to sing on Lollipop ticket. I understand it. I grew up in Detroit. We built, my family built all this stuff, bro. Okay. We built these constructs to make sure our people can eat right, to have gyms, and have these things. Everybody in the community gave us problems and the white man gave us problems and y'all still, y'all I mean everybody gave us problems on solutions period and I'm trapped and know I'm you know I'm so passionate about that because when I come up with solution I hear a problem well I can't just like the children Israel it's just like what we are we say a problem when Moses came with it with the the solution they gave a problem to him and God had a smite them mother fudgers because that's that mentality of a problem and we have to be sincere to trauma like she said but when I come with a solution you cannot or when we a group of us great thinkers intellects know we not thugs we're intellects to come over solutions for the problem you get mad at us and we say we're house niggers you say we ain't ish stop we're trying to save and help the people to have something that's the minimalist thing a dollar a day that's one solution I have a dollar a day a dollar a day that's 365 dollars a year yeah that's one Yeezy that's one Jordan a year from 14 percent of population will get the fun by Robert Smith who's a billionaire don't need the money that's right in Austin yeah everybody love it okay we get a series seven SCC licensed person to watch the fun and we'll put the money towards the community and we'll update the community we have 24-hour surveillance inside of the office to make sure nothing is being stolen and we'll AI or whatever figured out technology to know that this cannot be compromised but we're a community of followers a dollar a day I want to say followers a dollar a day they're gonna sit down you have to get a handful of people who agree they watch they want to see you succeed at whatever you my first my comic show was 25 freaking dollars and 30 dollars is almost sold out I doubt a dollar for me to make you laugh you're gonna pay me 25 bucks and I'm gonna make a lot of money this weekend a dollar a day period from 1.2 trillion dollars a year spending power one dollar out of that get the fuck out of here man y'all don't want problems y'all black people want problems like solutions because I came with solutions with the kingdom a seal everything you know I'm getting back to working my shirt off because I came to the people and they don't want it I like that man that's good stuff that's real that's a song about you going on that's gonna be when I when I look at you and the I loved your solution while I go to and I didn't say nothing no I got no I love I loved it so I got I got a thing where you give to receive you every time you give you receive a buck to you receive money every time you give how about that have you read time to Robert Smith I'm gonna reach out to him you better well only reason why for the trust factor of the fund because black people all about who control the money it's like yeah who control any of money and which are your treasury United States of America y'all put y'all trust that and God we trust like who's got you know I'm saying yeah in essence so you know it's like we trust everything but what we spoke to trust and I get it because there are certain things that you got to have legal stamp or stance standpoints for but at same time it's like if you have such a secure base situation that's going with the law of America and the law of what we're doing it could work and we got to stop thinking it's not gonna work let me ask you something do you have you ever worked on you you met Jamie Foxx of course straight up from that right here 30 minutes away Tarot Texas like like we have you ever you did have you ever did anything together me and Jamie we hosted this concert together which never got released by the way on it was a stand-up comedy thing and they said I was cussing too much that's funny I didn't want to know your thoughts on Jamie to be honest Jamie's great you know I think the most high it's been dealing with him for years I think he's had to call in his life and he's he's trying to figure it out yeah and every now I ask you that cuz of the what he went through a few months back that was real you know I mean yeah deal where where a lot of people was worried I was worried actually one of the guys did like man you don't big fan like it's just like if anything happened our people it's like dang well he gonna be able to come back from that you know what I mean but he been trickling you know I mean doing this thing but it you can tell it's not like it was as aggressive for the internet and stuff like that you know you know sometimes God pulls our yanks our cord you know yeah to do what he called us to do wow it's not for us to understand yeah we it's not a fuss understand like some people don't I'm saying so many things that make so much sense to me but y'all be like that is what's going on it makes so much sense to me I get it a Kanye Kanye probably you know you probably get you know they Kanye vibe you're like like think about it like when you start talking about God and when you start talking about processes and you start talking about different things that other people are scared of fear touching you're gonna get a certain you're gonna get a certain you're gonna get a certain look yeah it's gonna be it's come it's gonna come I don't bash me opposed to Kanye I don't bash other communities to uplift ours I focus on our problem because of the narcissism is deflecting going okay but you also can expose when you deflect you know there were certain things that the other communities did that cause respect that we have to bow to mm that they did what happened in 1918 we just I just don't believe that what do you do nobody's stronger than our unity do you ever I don't believe nobody's stronger to our unity and system do you like we refuse to create a infrastructure and system because we always have these but what about this what about that yeah we need a guy to crack the sky for us to come together but you know they don't need that so power to them shout to all the communities that came together unity love y'all guys got the inspirations how about that yep that's real well when you came back out with your solutions who did you present your solutions to the people where first the spiritual community okay and then they call me a devil okay it's only Christ can do that and then it became some other stuff and listen first if you're gonna do you got to go to the spiritual community first and then you have to go to the legal you know make sure it's legal and then presented to the people that most people with consciousness are presented to and they gave me more of a headache than other wow but I'll say let's all go to the strip club everybody going to the strip club if I say let's all go here let's go here let's all go smash some hoes we're gonna unite for that shit that's real let's go smash let's go spend 20 grand 100 grand on some bitches I promise you niggas will unite for that but if I say let's go spend a hundred grand to buy this community or buy oh no that's not enough money but to buy up this house oh it's all this ain't gonna get talked to my account money listen now you got to count when it's time to do some righteous that's so real but when we was but when we saw him close strip we was getting hoes you ain't got no account then that's real that is so real hate that shit but it's real so over the top do you in Detroit they was building up different they were buying up different land and stuff you've seen that buying up different it was us correct people was buying up land doing a lot of different thing how do you feel that that whole thing is right now at this point but all my house from DJ and be actually it's righteous I love them and I did you buy houses from DJ that's not comedy my that's not the activist up there I know I know Angela you bought some stuff from over there you know it's Detroit Strictly it is controlled by other communities that's it I mean what can we do come together motherfuckers so it's all the same matrix if you come together or die that's it or not who cares I got my shirt off nigga I'm about to do another movie I don't care I'm gonna go back to work I don't care yeah you think about Detroit you think about flip water all we bought all that shit up and then and bro I'm not doing this stuff either y'all want to come together and unite the kingdom or y'all don't if don't y'all don't I'm I don't care I'm going back to work anyways what do y'all do y'all don't I don't care I love I love I love my people I chose you all this shit I talked all this truth I agree with cat I did all this I'm not gonna stop what I'm doing to feed my family if people don't want to leave leave Hollywood and go where and go where leave your job and then donate to my church man fuck you leave your job and donate to my spirituality fuck you why am I gonna donate if I leave my job now I'm going on stage I'm acting I'm doing sex scenes with the with the girls and I'm gonna do what I do as an actor and I'm gonna have a great time the greatest time ever and I'm gonna make love to my wife in different countries young kids my ass I am out I'm not done it no because there's no point everybody to the most one of the most amazing man Martin Luther King Farrakhan Risa Islam of all these people have came together Christians Muslims Israelites we still have a problem coming together I'm going back to work because when I leave my job you have no place to put me wow no place to put me wow I'm going I'm you know okay me and my five kids are coming to your house and we're gonna eat your food wow brother the Bible says get out no nigga you told me to leave am I doing this with this this this bullshit this matrix bullshit no I get it I definitely not self-righteous I'm not all the way holy I'm just striving to be the best man I can be under God and that's all I can be like King David he was the best man he could be the God I'm not Christ I'm not the holy one and we're the one that comes floating in I am a brother that was getting shot at Jamison and I'm drinking in the sea right now and I'm the best time ever enjoying life boss talk one-on-one guys we hear that's what I am that's my boy Brandon T Jackson getting it in what are some upcoming films we can look out for you yeah man forget it I guess you whatever my new show Netflix and BT called family business I'm a new star that show I'm business Orleans and we show a new movie called beginning to see the light I say I went quick to work I went quick to work yeah I got my new comedy special Netflix called still Detroit we filming out this year also I got a couple of things fighting well I can't say that I can't say that cuz that's in development I got a lot of films in the filament that I don't want to speak cuz I won't really get in trouble but being Terry Crews we teaming up God bless ask you about him yeah how's he doing he's doing great I just don't like I don't like that people didn't feel sorry for him we went through a lot I was gonna ask you about that I got him a note I was like I was just wanting to know like how did you feel about when he went through that and the way that he was you know the way nobody supported Terry Crews a man that was a black man that was sexually harassed and then when Cassie come out everybody crying wow but nobody bought her album none these women bought her album why did you buy the album that's real she been waiting so long for you to answer that call but album why did you buy the album you just supported so much oh oh right yes I I support Cassie that's my friend but I bought her album you buy a album I got Cassie album in my phone right now need the phone I got Cassie album do you cuz if she was to be a platinum star maybe she would have find a way maybe maybe she could have finds her thing she was under certain subjections and things you don't know what was going on but y'all talk about that support bonus come down to support building a art and when they stand up for it all y'all running oh well when it comes in male Gibson though then they got a whole crew Wow he got a whole gangster crew like oh I've been hurt oh now I'm gonna come back with this movie they get a hundred million you don't gotta sue and listen I totally in support of of of anything that's against women brutality I'm so supportive of anything against a hurting women understand I'm saying but y'all can't have so as Chris Rock said selective outrage on when it comes down to okay oh yeah exactly you to support her when you thought okay boom oh I like it me the whatever but now she want to come on say blah blah blah this and that I'm like yo support her every everywhere in each which way that's all I'm saying be be with me when I'm down not this one I'm up you know good will y'all motherfuckers and then buy her album all y'all talking all that shit so I'm a oh Cassie then did you buy her album I bought her album I was on tour with her that's all her Ryan Leslie all them dudes whatever and you know it's like this like I pray I'm praying for Diddy wow did he show me nothing but love in in the past I don't like to see our brothers fall I'm praying for Titi Jakes I'm praying for our brothers like if you got a power-bottom spirit then we're gonna ask God to do with our bottom I don't know what it means this dude just said power-bottom spirit I'm saying that if you do I still forgive you and I pray that God deliver you from the power-bottom spirit this dude's tripping power-bottom spirit I'll just tell you the truth if he do got a power-bottom spirit the internet takes stuff and just it crams it in your face I know that's what I'm saying we don't know if Titi Jakes did any of these stuff so we don't know we don't know but I'm saying if you have if he did let's think of worst case scenario the power-bottom spirit I've seen him dancing if you gotta okay but we don't laugh cuz Charlie Sheen gave all those women a's came back with a platinum TV show he's saying there's no redemption program for black people if he does have a pot of bombs stop me with that no you use the power-bottom spirit we're gonna pray that whatever it is he he finds the light I know it's so funny he's like he finds the light no but we so just meant so we're not gonna get but white folks can do whatever they want yeah that's real have a pot of bomb spirit we like it's sorry every time you say it's real it's real it's true it's true like it's a thing it's it's no we not we're not trying to I don't know the problem is I'm saying but it's a real thing and I can promise you that me and definitely noted it's a real thing power-bottom spirits have just not been identified on both talk one-on-one that's what just happened I'm telling you I'm trying to be an asshole I'm trying to tell you if someone do have that spirit I'm gonna laugh yeah no it's a real thing though and it's a lot of people comedian to it's I know I'm knowledge about the community now if someone has that spirit I'll be respectful we have to we have to we have to pray for me the Charlie she came back also I'm saying he made it and Jason come back to and did he I'm saying that right now I know it sounds so bad whatever God has for them and the judgment and whatever's happening I pray for the grace and mercy of God for them and I love them brothers and please keep this in here cuz I don't just want the power I mean I'll go back to this I thought about this while ago is people being placed in different position because of different moves being made that's over them like Cat Williams alluded to Kevin Hart being put in a position because of certain moves that he was willing to do ludicrous was this really is it really a thing where people put you in a position because of the moves you make I think God controls everything I think I'm all right I think Kevin Hart worked hard and I think Kevin did what he did and in the way where he just learned how to to make content very fast and very good and he hooked up with Jeff clannigan who was a great promoter and he blew up on the on the comedy the hype and I mean on the comedy all stars and then it was it was cosmic it was God I don't know what it does behind the scenes but I'm not gonna tell me Kevin Hart doesn't work hard I'm not gonna tell me doesn't know how to create content the way you do and he again tell me that is a great team Dave Becky Pookie we are them dudes there may I know them they're great at what they do so sometimes it'd be your team and some people just don't want to work with cat and that's okay I want to work with cat I love Kevin I love all of them yeah but I'm saying I will work with both of them but what I'm telling you is that they don't have a structure what it pertains to of a balance towards each other it's a competition well man that's not a competition it's not a competition with spending power black America and that's just black America because both of them are crossover so fuck the competition bullshit and that's why I deal with the kingdom I don't deal with separatism that's real that's a scam and our people that's the biggest scam of our people oh yeah okay that's on him that's his mindset I see it as a cat helped me sell so many tickets this weekend thank you cat it was no competition he said my name 43 million people saw it and now my tickets are selling like crazy thank you cat Wow what do you think about what do you think about cat um putting Kevin Hart X on tour with him it's great that's our work that's money we're all slaves let's work money be made let's work for the master it don't matter we're having a good time that's real money we're free we're not free there's no black nation there's no nation over conda we have it the best time ever no one is above anybody in the kingdom we all are who we are who we are so cat and Kevin go back out for that's on them the two OGs are 50 years old 45 48 50 and they can have it that fighting old spirit that spirit of fighting this old and I pray that my youngest see the example of two men that can make something great that is hard man I love the way you answer these questions the kingdom I love the way you answer the question because you asked something with precision and you basically that's just gotta talk I know I'm gonna see it's the truth though this is like it needs to be heard you know I mean like these are questions that I asked because I know that others will see it and they'll be able to understand further you dope brother be able to even you know set back and even analyze it do you do you value the time that you spent going out and trying to figure out all these different things to be honest with you it's hard for me because I had the whole community turned against me had Hollywood community and also look at me like I was crazy I love them even for that because I did come off crazy and I had the religious community come off me so I don't abide by their standards I'm making new pathways or old pathways with Christ talks about the kingdom and it's not religion it's not going and it's not doing what people say I don't shout the Muslims shout the Israelites shout the Christians come together and build the kingdom wow y'all scared of that oh because my mom is sad because Jesus said because Moses said it's always a scan one not to unite it's alright that's why I don't care you know what about Hollywood we unite to make great art that's it period and we have a great time and we love each other and we in peace when I come over to spirituality and that is the Hollywood's a scam too but and the religion is a scam too how about that I'm I'm neither y'all I'm not Hollywood or religion I'm the kingdom I'm brandy Jackson a son of the most high and having the best time ever on Hennessy and chilling and speaking truth tell everybody what it can find you at this week I'm talking about all of it okay let's go once and in Bob Rob all weekend y'all come through I can't say that it will be this election electrifying but it will be definitely electrifying but um if the spirit come on and let it come on but we have a good time I'm very funny I know I'm very conscious all it's improv from Friday through a Sunday we have two shows every 9 9 30 a 7 30 9 30 y'all come through the nigga from broke rope on says he grown now man then they the hey hey lottery ticket he grows in Jackson Percy Jackson man I love him was he almost 40 with kids it's a grown man now I know they like who's this yeah I didn't even know there was a new person Jackson show that came out did you see it fuck that show man cuz you weren't in there no I mean that well how could I be I'm you know did they gonna brought you back in the older person but someone else it's all about writing someone else is playing my role so you can't be like I was there let's do meta versus in a dad with the spider man if you do a spider man thing where it's like meta verse but that's not that's what this was well no I mean they well if I was business wise that's smart I love that Disney did this they what they did was they got 12 year olds to play 12 year olds we were 25 year olds like what's going on but we were good yeah I thought we were good damn weird and um Percy Jackson's amazing is a great thing and it actually tapped into the spiritual side of you know the gods and you know all that stuff spiritually so I love all that mystical type things I got more for y'all for that y'all like it's over like what happened when you did like I could like let me grow they want you to stay in the old testament people love the movies they like me I watch them all the time yeah I'll watch them over and over again I love it too but what can I make some more stuff I know exactly please because I'm like I got some fire coming bro man I don't know the movies that you're in until they unless they hit the big screen because it'd be so shocking to me when I actually like look up actors name and I'm like oh what that didn't go big screen I never saw this I'm like let me watch this yeah you'd be surprised how many other films people are in you just didn't know Clifton yeah I done so many so many films Clifton Powell man I wasn't working with him what is how's that he's so professional I gotta just give him Clifton Powell shout out to Clifton Powell by the way I know the cameras y'all you can look straight at my great close-up but this one's too close these two are the money shot yeah yeah Clifton Clifton will take a $5,000 movie act like it's a hundred million dollar movie it's hard I like it and I love that it gives every energy to a movie that could be considered grassroots yeah that the producer might never done a camera never done anything for he might have like like five dollars ten dollars give him like Leo shoot me on two days wow I'm a what two days you got two days this much money wow man we shot Clifton out on that movie so quick and he was such a pleasure to work with wow and we had some chicken after we went to the bar we chill that's my brother right there we had some drinks we had some shots brothers lemon pepper wings and we had a great time shout out to Clifton I had to get him in there man before you get out of here man like I say you brothers man inspiring my wife friends Clifton Ben Stiller down in junior Robert Downey Junior Chris Tucker all my all my black and white friends we might not be the same but we can understand each other and respect each other because it would never be the same say that right now but we will always respect to understand our differences and come together and make some money until God comes back okay one more question I'm like in previous interviews I've seen you you talk about that you've never had to do sexual favors to grow in the industry I really said a mine screen up but I was on a astral plane interview the last one that came out like yeah but okay but you know we regular people when we hear stories we hear people we hear these things but we don't know it's just a hearsay or rumor have you ever had to see that happen to somebody no I've seen like black orgies with fucking rockstar I'm not gonna name names I don't want I've seen all that shit but that's just rockstar whatever and I always left 20 minutes 30 minutes for the devil get there right well yeah 30 million 30 minutes will never get there and even I tried to say God will always kick me out I never did the orgy parties that shit man that's just great and it's like that now it was funny even I wanted to do it as a young kid to have fun at the guy was like go home so I was called got enough room that's good I'm like can I go no no no you're not the exact words you're not one of us wow what does that mean I'm who's us I just killed the show who was us Godhead of the play so he said one security guard said to me you're not one of us go home I'm like who's us the other one I'm trying to fuck some bitches to I'm 19 yeah you know I mean so that was stuck with me when he said that but not I never done sexual favors for that's why I don't care was the whole on screen stuff I know what I do off screen you saw you saw you saw the call I had you need some money let's get the kids telling me hey dad that's why I really am y'all can have his images matrix images I know I do these podcasts y'all can know who I am right Brandon because I can write my story on some oh he did this he did that is okay calm down I've never done any sexual favors for any parts I'm just talented and anointed by God to do what I need to do and I'm I'm I'm a boast on his mercies and grace not on myself and doesn't close any doors from you know why should it watch a lot of actors and actresses they're scared that why I don't do this then I can't get this because you don't know how to make righteous sacrifices selfless sacrifice fast and praying doing what things you don't want to do 24 day fast 40 day fast my let's let's go here Nelson Mandela and Gandhi fasted the same time before they got a jail God could make ways out of nowhere everybody wants to talk about what the devil can do what can God do God gonna make me a billionaire I know my billionaire yeah I care about it I mean you know I'm a billionaire when I don't care about it I don't care about being billionaires all fake but I'll be a billionaire just so I can bless people I know that but I'm a billionaire my son gonna be a billionaire cuz we made our we made our prices with God it's so simple going 10 day fast Wow thank you so much for coming on show man we love you brother see I cut me off when I got these we got to get you out of here from the back that I got to get you out of you I'm trying to make sure they're all night brother we are ever made first of all let me tell you amazing time I'm trying to get people to see how to get it besides the quote unquote Illuminati nigga no God will if you fight with God he'll fight with you and then Illuminati will bow to God how about that that's be that's an that's a new one that's huge the Illuminati thank you father the Illuminati will bow to the Almighty man thank you so much man thank you so much man we love you brother hey man I know you coming back to boss talk 101 I'm going I'm coming up to Detroit come through comment and see you I'm coming to the studio I'm coming and set up I'm coming to hang out I'm telling you now cuz I do it will I do it mm-hmm on my own I believe I believe I come up there I do it all the time I need you come up to the show okay okay you got I gotta come I come there by show if you tell me to be there I'm coming let me know I'm give you tickets I'm coming come through me and my wife and tell all all the audience come through because I the way I speak here is funnier of course I spoke a little deep no we got something I go deep but I'm fun here okay I'll have fun because I like cuz the first person the comedian I've ever seen go deep with who Eddie Griffin Eddie Griffin yeah I love it I love it I've never seen the comedians go deep till I saw him cuz comedians are deep cuz God uses us to do what we do but can be shout out to Eddie Griffin but I don't go that deep I'm actually like who's this guy I'm actually more fun stage like another thing my shirt off is because God say you like what about the voice do you still do that voice which one one when you was in big mama house was that real how hard was that doing that voice that's that's interesting question you know that's interesting question I you know it's funny I was thinking about doing that voice my girl characters and when I play my my girlfriends and my yeah and it doesn't sit right with me don't sit right but some but some but sometimes I do slip into the the the character to portray my sisters okay aunties you know something like that like you know I try that like cuz if you if you're doing or your ex-girlfriend you know I mean so it's like it's definitely I thought about that tell me what is voice come up and I was just like how do Detroit how do Detroit women sound how to how do my sister sound I just listen to that yeah yeah tonality yeah but um don't cut it where I said I slip into the voice please got you man you overthinking it no I know you're blog is integral but sometimes they were like boss talk boss talk to take it all down boss talk to shut it down I already know I know I know I know I've been good to me I wouldn't done it if I felt that yeah but sometimes I say that because it's almost insecurity because I've seen people do it with my words yeah like comedy I think twist a lot of like they mean that like Brandon's I'm like that's all like yeah this is how they move it around well one thing about it you know you can always put a call in but once it's out there it's out there too though I know that's a whole band and that's what I'm saying what I'm saying man thank you so much for coming on the show we love you Brandon you family now we did a great show so much what we had to do I hope you got what you got I got what I got it's going down y'all stop out there to the improv in all it's in Texas let's get it popping boss I wanna one what a boss is tall and we have love you