 Sir, I wish to be the part of the government mechanism and secondly, sir, it's considered to be one of the best services in the country. So, it gives me a good career option. So, what qualities will you bring to this job? Sir, I think my compassionate nature, my confidence and integrity would help me. And secondly, sir, that in times of crisis, I wouldn't give up easily. So, I think that will help me. Good. Very good. You should also mention things like honesty, integrity, professional confidence. You strive for professional. You believe in rule of law. You have moral courage and readiness to live in crisis. These qualities are required for these jobs, which you should always mention. Formal. Are you doing some job now? Yes, sir. So, last time you were doing, you have left that? Yes, sir. I left. So, you are settling and this is your first interview? This is my second attempt and second interview. Okay. Tell me, political science and international relations is your option. Why political science is called a science? Sir, it is called a science because of the use of experimentation techniques and the data analysis that is being done recently. So, it cannot be considered as a natural science, but it is an inexact science. So, from there it is considered as a science, a part of social science. And behaviorism and post-behaviorism, can you mention something about them? Sir, behaviorism was an attempt to make political science purely database. It was after the Second World War and use of experimentation analysis, research was focused on that. But it was led by David Easton. During that time, David Easton felt that because of these things, they have ignored the current happenings around the world. So, therefore he realized that political science should be both data as well as value-based. So, he only propagated the idea of post-behaviorism. Now, China in some circles is being described as a destructive power in India. Do you agree? Yes, sir, we can. Please tell me why it is being said so? Sir, because of the policies that are followed by China. The recent being its manipulation of the currency, which is problematic for trade. Secondly, sir, its geopolitical aspects. Examples are in South China Sea, there are disputes. Sir, in the Belt and Road Initiative, that debt track policy of China, where small countries, they give a high amount of loans and they get indebted to China. Sir, why India is so much concerned about the growing influence of China in India also? Sir, there are multiple reasons for that. One is the security reason that China is considering itself as the master of South China Sea, with disputes all the countries, which is interrupting the freedom of navigation as well as the communication lanes. Which might hamper the trade prospects for India in that reason, sir. Why India knows so much strategic importance for India? You should start with that. How it is there? Okay, then tell me, you know, in the international relations, now it is not a bipolar war, it is a multipolar war. What should be the kind of, you know, strategy or a policy strategy of a country like India? Should it be aligned to the US? What kind of alignment, what kind of policy, what kind of strategy it should adopt? Sir, the strategies that one should adopt should be selective based on, it should not be guided by ideology, but by our national interests in terms of economy, in terms of our national security and in terms of our improvement in our cultural relations, so that India can project itself as a leader. So, sir, when we analyze this, when we see this policy trends, wherever we can see, we have to meet our energy security so we can increase our engagement with the Middle East. Sir, we need to improve our trade. So, ACTI's policy is focusing on RCN as a market. Sir, we need to, we need entry in United Nations Security Council, NSG. So, therefore, we are engaging with more and more countries to build the alliance. Now, tell me, this white revolution, you know about white revolution? It's a little about it, sir. It is about politics. Sir, it's about the milk production in the country. How can it become a success? What is the root of its secret behind its success? Sir, I think the secret behind would be the success of the cooperative movement. Yes. Are these the reason? Involvement of the, involvement of the grass root farmers, which have their dairy, they collectivize their milk production and hence we could expand our production. Correct. Sir, you are a mechanical engineer from VIT Velo. Who established VIT Velo? Sir, VIT was established by Mr. J. Vishwanathan. When? Sir, in 1984. 1984? Yes. Now, how this knowledge will be helped for you as a civil servant? Sir, here I'd like to say two things. As an engineer, sir, I have skills which promote resource optimization and problem-solving approach. And sir, as a mechanical engineer, specifically, sir, there are techniques like PERT and CPM which help in project management. Also, sir, in later, in coming years, we'll be more guided by a technology like drone technology for surveillance as well as farm management. Also, sir, robotics is coming up. So I think these things will... Why there is an impression in the country that at the grass root level, there is a disconnect with the CPM? Sir, one reason is that people are not aware about the schemes and policies of the government. So they do not have the knowledge to approach for their rights. Sir, second reason is the insensitivity of the grass root officials which consider themselves as rulers rather than servants, so which has decreased the faith of people in the administration. Sir, besides the CPM, would you be able to do it? Sir, I'd be able to do it. I have to make the administration reach out to the people, the deficit between the... how? Sir, that can be... that openness of the district administration to people if they can come and register their complaints. Also, sir, social media can be used for their grievance addressable mechanisms. What do you know about the Make in India program? Sir, the Make in India program was launched in 2014 to make India have for design innovation and manufacturing. Any concrete success stories? Sir, concrete success stories are not finalised at the moment but they are on the pipeline like German, 47 German companies are ready to invest in India. Sir, there are no concrete success stories? Sir, I'm not aware of any big... but bits and pieces are electronic industry, it's growing, sir. I'll read on this. And what about the Skill in India program? Why did not succeed? Sir, there are multiple reasons for that. One reason is that the skills that are being promoted in Skill India, they get obsolete very fast in terms of innovative technology. Second, sir, most of the jobs are being automated so the requirements of people is less. But employment, there are two views. One says there is jobless growth in India. Other says, you know, there is no job drought. In fact, there is shortage of manpower. Jobs are there. Which one do you think is correct and why? Sir, I was reading about this and both the reports they have quoted their data with respect to the job. What was your view? Sir, here I would say that we are shifting from the traditional concept of job to work, that from the entrepreneurship schemes as well as the Skill India scheme, people are focusing towards their own enterprises. So maybe the formal sector jobs are not creating, but people in future they will get jobs. What do you know about the central budget? Sir, there are a few major aspects of budget. One was the Aishman Bharat scheme that was launched. Second, sir, in agriculture sector, many reforms were there. First was giving the MSP 1.5 times the cost. Second, sir, integration of rural markets into rural hearts into rural markets. What role defense in infrastructure? You are interested in cricket. Why was the recent IPA match shifted out of Chennai? It was because the protests in Chennai regarding the Cauvery Management Board issue where they protested against the central government for its delay in implementation of the Supreme Court Board. So who asked that the Cauvery Board should be constituted? Was it based on the Supreme Court judgment? Ma'am, the Supreme Court had mentioned only the scheme, the word scheme. So what did the Supreme Court say in their judgment regarding the Cauvery sharing of waters? Ma'am, the judgment in February. Ma'am, the Supreme Court judgment had increased the share of Karnataka by 14 TNC fee. Okay, but why? Because of the ongoing crisis in landlord. You can see the three principles. One is right, ongoing crisis of drinking water and water. And the other two? Ma'am, one was that Cauvery should be considered as a national asset. Yes. And they also took into account the groundwater available. Yes, because of that. So now where have the games been shifted to? Ma'am, they have been shifted to Pune. Okay, it's final. Now you've also taken part in writing for the Hindi? No, ma'am. What is this, you've written chapter of newspaper, the Hindu? Ma'am, this was a club that I started. So that was called the Hindu? The Hindu Education Plus Club. It's the student chapter of the Hindu newspaper. So what did you do? What was your role there? Ma'am, I founded that club because the newspaper, the Hindu, they had an observation that people in academic backgrounds, they only focus on their curriculum and they are not aware of their general surroundings, the current affairs. So this club was focused on developing leadership skills among the students so that they understand issues going around. So how did you develop the leadership skills for your other fellow members? Ma'am, we had many events going on continuously like debates, discussions and people were made to take part in them. So they had an understanding of the issues. Now you've also written graphology, what is graphology? Ma'am, graphology is handwriting analysis. Handwriting keeps changing. Ma'am, they keep changing but at a particular moment, some things can be figured out. It's not a science so it's purely on interpretive reasons. So it's just a recreation. All right, good. Now you're from Uttar Pradesh and one years of old is Encounters. Our Encounters are good technique to get down prime and address the lower motor situation. Ma'am, I think Encounters are justified only in the case of self-defense. Yes, only in the case of self-defense. They should not be made a norm. Our focus should be on to establish rule of law based on the principles in our constitution like faith in our police system. People should approach, proper trials should take place, investigations should take place. Now we find that there are protests of the rights and these protestors become violent when in times where there was caste based protest or it was protest against the SCAC judgment which escaped or it is against a movie. Are we becoming intolerant as a society? Ma'am, as a society, I would agree to this but I would say that there are some fringe elements which are becoming intolerant because they utilize the insecurities in the people through social media and instigating them that such and such thing will be bad for you. I think that is the reason why a large section of people we see protesting against them. Now, can you mention some of the internal security problems which are complete basis today? Ma'am, internal security problems would be the insurgency in Chamukhashmi in north-east in Chhattisgarh. Ma'am, second would be draft trafficking and human trafficking which is a part of organized crime. Ma'am, another would be cybersecurity issues. Yes. So tell me something about this left-wing experience and which are the states which are affected by it? Ma'am, the major states that are affected by which are Chhattisgarh, Deshpingwal, Andhra Pradesh. Not at this location anymore. Yes, ma'am. Yes, ma'am. Yes, ma'am. Yes, ma'am. Yes, ma'am. Just mention what are the global challenges which our country faces today. Just mention them. I don't want any details. Ma'am, one is terrorism. Second is climate change. Third, I would say is the trade issue. Next is humanitarian. And pandemics, pandemic, illnesses, diseases become health issues. Finally, policy. Thank you. Ma'am, for a while I was finding out what are the different decisions and things. In entire Sigma business solutions like this. Sir, this company is using big data analytics. I was a part of a retail company where I worked as an assortment standing. What is the marketing concern? Sir, it is purely big data analytics. It was my job was, yes it can be related to marketing because my job was assortment standing. So we used to tell our clients which products to be kept and which stores. Okay. So it is a part of marketing. I will ask you something general. How do you look at the setup of the Indian economy? Sir, I would say that the economy is recovering at the moment because there are some issues, our statistics which... I would like you to come in on the message of the macroeconomic indicator. Yes, sir. I was coming to that. Sir, the macroeconomic indicators that are current account deficit is 1.8% of the GDP. Then the fiscal deficit... Which is on the higher side. The fiscal deficit, our government wasn't able to meet its target at its 3.5%. So there we can say that issues are there but we are uncovering that. As in the economic survey, it was mentioned that... Inflation is unpredictable. Inflation is unpredictable. But we say that... For the reserves, how much we have? Sir, around $420 million. $420. $420. So that also is compensated separately. Yes, sir. There are certain problems of the balance of payment side. Sir, it's a great asset that is high. Trade deficit is high as you said. And future scenario also looks problematic. All imports, all prices are on the right side. All prices are on the right. Export is an uncertain... So on balance, how would you describe the present state of the economy? In one sentence if I ask you to explain. Sir, I would say that the potential is there and we are recovering at the moment. I wouldn't say that we are successful right now. But we are recovering. We are all ready to recover it. What concerns? There are concerns. Okay. What is the disinvestment? Sir, it's the reduction of government stakes in the public sector units. Right now some disinvestment... Sir, I would support the disinvestment because of the large debt. The 50,000 crore debt is there for the... How actually this is the reduction process involved? Sir, recently some details were given that 76% stakes will be disinvested. 50% stake in the flying and 50% stake in the ground management and 100% stake in the... There are also from second quarters, people are saying that we should try to go into more private areas of the public sector. So take on that. The proposal that has been given is on the recent cases of Punjab National Bank issue. But sir, here I would like to say that ownership is not the issue. We need to have some reform measures in the bank governance. That would be more important. Private sector banks are also susceptible to... Absolutely, I agree on that. Last question. Internet is so reliant on media. Very hosted last month. How significant is that? Sir, it is very significant because in future we are aiming at a 100 gigawatt target for solar energy. And to achieve the target, we need investments in technology as well as skills and manpower. So a collective alliance of these countries will help in achieving that. How many countries are there in this area? Sir, 120 members are there but the treaty has been ratified by around 60 members. Any initiative taken in the meeting of the alliance for creation of a fund of things like that? Sir, I agree on that. You have to agree on that. Thank you. The final mechanical engineering. Sir, mechanical engineering involves creation of systems based on the concepts of force and motion and energy. So that we can help, we can make our tasks easier. Is it a technology? Mechanical engineering is a technology application of science. Sir, technology is a process where the technology is being made. What is the difference between mechanical engineering and automation? Sir, mechanical engineering is a wide subject which involves creation of machines as well as project management as well as plans. Automation or is it a result of mechanical engineering? Is it a part of mechanical engineering? Part or outcome? Sir, outcome of one part of mechanical engineering. What is the difference between robotics and automation? Sir, there is a very slight difference as far as you can think. Automation involves anything that has been instructed to do a job repeatedly. And robotics involves physical aspects. So I would say that automation is a component of robotics. One component of robotics. What is the difference between a robot and a drone? Sir, a robot can be any machine that does work based on the inputs given. And a drone is an unmanned aerial vehicle. It is a type of robot. Is it a type of robot? Yes, and freedom. A drone is, which is pre-programmed, it does the same work repeatedly, right? Like putting a robot in a machine, in a car, like this, cutting. It doesn't change its function. Whereas a drone can change. It can be controlled by direct or not. A drone is flying. You see, you go to that target, it goes to that target. Then it goes to that target. Sir, I think robots can also be maneuvered. Yes, robots. Every maneuver? Yes, I know. Are there any field robots? Are there maneuverables that can perform multi-task? Sir, the recent robot that has been created by Japan, Sir, Asimov, it is a movable robot. It can do multiple things. It is based on artificial intelligence, sir. And recently, Sophia robot was launched by a company. It is also capable of anchoring. It is capable of multi-tasking. Define robotics? Sir, robotics would be a branch of science which is a combination of mechanical engineering as well as electronics engineering to create systems that may or may not have intelligence to do work, but they can do works repeatedly. Is government ability an adopting technology? Embracing technology? Yes, sir. Give some evidence? Sir, one is the e-governance where internet has been used to deliver services to the people directly. Sir, other aspects would be, sir, government is shifting towards electrical vehicles and it is focusing on electrical vehicles, sir. Sir, technology can be constructed. It is a part of our daily system. What is the government's approach towards artificial intelligence? Sir, recently, Nithya Ayoga had a proposal to consider the aspects of artificial intelligence in health education and education and sectors which are hazardous with their artificial intelligence can be... Right, we close the interview.