 Griefing is when we have players who are looking for some utility other than what the game wants them to find. They're trying to figure out how many team mounts they can flash back. Yep. They're playing Counter-Strike. It's like they're team killing, right? It's like they're having fun torturing people. In World of Warcraft they're like spawn camping and killing people who come back to life, right? They're finding fun in something other than what the game wants them to find fun in, right? Maybe they're just playing baseball and they're trying to steal as many bases as they can, I guess could help you get more runs. Probably won't. Sometimes it won't, right? Maybe they're trying to steal a base when there's like a full, you know, every base loaded or something, right? It's like it might be that idea, but they're just, they just enjoy that part of the game and not the game as designed and they're not trying to win.