 So when when people approach you and ask I want to become a service designer or I want to become a better service designer What is the first thing you say to them? I have a trick and that's start acting out The service rather than sit on your butt and think And that's usually a good thing when you're in a team start acting together the service because the service is not something That you're gonna pay for it something happens in I like that one. I think what would I say to someone? I Think practice your curiosity And and as kids we are all born with it. So it's like you need just to find it within your yourself. So To to understand if you will fall in love with service design is practicing your curiosity is going to give you some great answers