 about we changed it can i put what when we when i tweet out oh sure should be in the title i'm just hoping that know what we're really discussing i was gonna say just don't don't give it a second you might tweet out a link that ends up being walk preempting all looks like like it according to my thing we're lying no one comes in in chat yet so that's not reassuring you gotta give a moment to file in true to watch the show was just sitting up in advance or anything well there we go i think it's all working now okay give it like i said you're like five minutes but that should be the link and don't worry about thumbnail it's it's correct for normal people normal yeah i said it i went there that's you hear me if you if you don't see the thumbnail proper that means you're a bad person five dollars to see the thumbnail it's all nails are a premium feature you want access to the premium thumbnails yes just just give up a treat it's only gonna go on your ass it's only five dollars it's like two coffees two frackety i'm checking myself it's not showing up on my channel yet this the amount people in chat this can't be a secret stream so that's something excellent who knows how long that'll last hello everyone i hope i hope hello works properly hola senora i just saw someone make a make a joke that was if i think i was southpaw if he comes back you'll be called kim john undead i thought she let me into though is that the suicide see that you're but uh... it's insensitive though this confirmed yet i don't know yeah is it that is he not dead there's that image of him apparently dead yeah i think that was a photoshop job but uh... i know that there's been a lot of like apparently activity between china and north korea as if they're all like in panic mode get off my lawn no you get off my lawn oh god the brain surgery not even once that's my opinion that's that's my hot take for the day just letting you know i don't think you should have brain surgery is that what happened well because brain surgery because because it can go bad you know the times that it goes good it's just not worth it what if you got brain cancer just well that's it then straight away it'll be fine it's like rolling badly on monopoly you just gotta be like well that's it you don't just get brain surgery do you i mean if you paid for it i guess they just go around in there is that a new mechanical monopoly brain surgery i would be on board that's the piece that i normally am the brain just disembodied brain can can one only not no it's no inside a head or anything just an actual brain brain and one of them the hat the hat was always my go-to piece because it hides a brain beneath is that why uh... well i have a skull so and that hides a brain beneath yet yes knew it that really it's more of an accessory i love to accessorize all i wear is an accessory new it no clothes just a hat just a hat so i'm a little doggie head so uh... this is you've had the eighty three because they do to is me maroonies uh... we're getting closer and closer to that number one hundred rags is not terrifying it is terrifying ten thousand our streaming coming i imagine i think it's open corona would destroy civilization before we had to try to digit this even even if it did we people be like but still streaming for but like all you hear people outside breaking into our houses and just like hang on it'll just be you streaming to no one like everyone else is dead yeah people told me i needed to research e-fap they said you need to look into this so i looked into it it's like e-fap number fifty went on for like two fucking days and i know that if we have a twenty six hour whatever stream for if i would have to people be like wow you guys gotta let us down there don't very long i'll just be like have to kill someone it shouldn't be first anniversary was a day your second anniversary has to be two days that's how it works eventually until we can figure out a way that we can take rotations and it's just a non-stop e-fap stream you have to say it's like one one week per month just to cover all the superchats yeah i mean the seventh anniversary should be a week long right seven weeks good fucking like the e-fap one hundred seven year long stream per seventh anniversary seven year long yeah seven years our anniversary stream will be seven years long so on the fifteenth year we could start our eighth year so when we will be finishing our seventh year anniversary stream around about the fourteenth anniversary is that how that works around abouts damn well i mean you know it's out in the tenth as well though so yeah can you run them concurrently we have multiple e-fap streams at the same time just surrounded by computers constantly streaming e-fap it has to be done well e-fap three ninety two is on a commercial break from raid shadow legends um yeah this is number three like i said we got some got a new blood and old blood all at the same time welcome new guest big fan about woman uh... mister heal this baby face and uh... you'd preferably go by as right yeah yeah well and welcome to e-fap how do thank you thank you for having me thank you for breaking jeremy's heart the other day yeah watching his soul die use it i i did see that part of the stream once i'd left you you guys wrote it in the like jerry's just like hey how you do it like to moler of the ball was like hey as come on e-fap yet jerry's like hey as you want to come on to e-fap it's just it just died inside that's the thing he doesn't he doesn't do bat woman content he can't really associate with us like you gotta to appreciate that woman is too basically be an e-fap such a such a good she's back tomorrow oh yeah there's a new it's just back tomorrow me uh... we watched two episodes the other day uh... two more where we're uh... we're one behind will be two behind tomorrow but one take long catch up does does that women does that woman ever actually stop because it just seems to be on like all the time i certainly hope not never it's been like three episodes this year so they oh yeah they've had to slow it down because of the virus and stuff but uh... she'll be back to be back in themselves yeah she'll take care of us remember they're not the second season after seven uh... hero she's a bitch they did that with the the captain marvel trailer as well they like the hero thing so some marketing guy just must have sat there looking at the word hero for hours and he was like wait a minute wait a minute how come i never saw it like my fair lady by jove i've got it he's like we can get she if we have a word that works for that like what about shed she was born in a shed we'll have she first yeah the most the most mundane origin story for a hero ever superhero name is super ho there you go we can't call her that is like alright super rake oh no no no that's the villain i'm going to rape you and you know what super ho she'd beat the shit out of all the bad guys they wouldn't stand a chance also she has the best morals and she's really funny she's really funny okay landscape architecture do we need we'll need characters to show up and tell her literally that she's funny and really nice and a good person you know someone someone might be like oh god is this bullshit kind of jokes like no this happened in captain marvel there was a scene where her friend said you are very intelligent very funny very amazing that's your personality it was just like what the fuck i can imagine the advertisements when they pop on the television they'll have a few starter images and then we'll see the words form on the screen shed tool and then reveals she too love it i hope there's someone from marvel watching this this is probably getting commissioned right now because i can't fucking the fucking dogs right shed tool that's amazing i can't i didn't think oh yeah he's uh he's he's losing faith with the the fandom menace isn't he people don't like him as much what did he do specifically it was uh it was announced that he it was his idea what to what was done in the sequel trilogy with the layer and luke right or something like that or he approved yeah the layer thing it's like the layer should be the bestest of the best ever well and she should do all the things and then Ray should be like awesome besties maybe like everyone's the best in the men of poopy face but from what i've heard people are liking clone was still so that's something though apparently i've heard rumblings i don't know the context for this but it amuses me apparently dothmore lost a fight because he didn't cut a pole or something there was apparently a pole he was supposed to cut and he just didn't for no reason look a metal beam i don't know this is the thing i've seen screenshots he lost a fight because he didn't just cut something and i'm waiting for chat to like go nuts because they'll know all about this and i'm just sitting here with no context being like come come thing i don't know this isn't like a nightclub is pole dancing is dothmore's pole dancing i feel like with a robotic lower half your pole dancing career would be there's pros and cons you'll be faster maybe you'll be faster showing them your robotic bottom half hey man yeah the allure is not really there don't shame don't shame some people like that now if if he was do you think like all of him is tattooed like that ever ever to chat i say it was dumb i don't know what the specifics are but it was dumb whatever happened with wall it was it was dumb i'm just curious as well is there like another darthmore going around that's got like his legs but like a robotic top half with a prince with a prince albert who kissed always is dead all true um so yes no they're going to they're going to reinvigorate star wars with their new female leads tv show no female centric female centric can you please get it right not centric so it's going to be multiple carries we're all karen's everywhere we're all going to be very excited to see what they come out with online that's going to be next generation amazing content i can't wait i'm just i mean it it's just a surefire thing i don't see how it could possibly fail just watch them watch them go they're very good at it yeah i'm sure the show will be great and we'll watch every episode not ironically at all but just like batwoman will have another female hero heroine shed tool that we can watch every single week watch or dominate the theory about this is that because it was leaked basically they didn't make an official announcement about the show it was like bob eiger has to be the one who actually commissioned shows now he's like taking control of that and they had this thing kind of in development so they're like well if we leak it and all the press starts going nuts over this amazing female centric show he's going to have no choice but to commission it because if he cancels it now after everyone's gone nuts about it well then it's just going to look like he's keeping the women down so it's a pretty smart move on their part it's like basically forced his hand how long is it going to take i'm desperate for this new content i demand it right now especially with how mandalorian season two is not until the end of the year right we need this desperately even though that that's got a season three yeah but apparently there's no concept at all it's just female centric show they haven't got anything you say that like that's not incredible what's wrong with you well it's it's brave and it's stunning i would say oh yes oh god can you just imagine the pitch meeting for this it's like so what's your concept listen star wars yeah female centric whoa what else that's it love it love it you're hired it's like you know like lightsabers and stuff yeah but held by a girl lots of them whoa didn't we kind of do that with ray and it's like no she was just an experiment this is for real this year just testing the waters and that was definitely a success so we need this is the evolution of ray we made like a billion dollars of course it was a success you're like yeah yeah yeah i guess didn't the first one make two billion yeah okay it went down a little that's fine i don't need you in your thoughts oh i get it that's a double meaning the fucking numbers anyway i was saying that we got new blood and old blood welcome old blood being both critical drinker and smile around how do you gents do i'm so old old blood could be in a young person god yeah yeah i've been around in a while you guys been doing your different different things we got a nice big collection of tisms today because all the people here like joker isn't that right hmm that is correct you all hate women yes hate women i mean i did check all of all your channels you've got lots of videos saying all films are bad except the ones with male protagonists it's like ooh yeah a bit awkward but well you know that's why i brought you on to try and smooth that out a bit you can admit that you know you've made mistakes and that you're about to criticize this film now or celebrate it depending on which video we watch first which is probably we could do wins or sins first it's not really hugely important but what would be preferable do you think what would the audience want what do the cast want who knows i guess i could ask that's a possibility do a poll if only there was a way all right i guess we should do it the easiest way possible ask the should we should we ask the chat if they want wins or sins and they can post sins or wins in the in the thing for wins or sins or wins they're already doing it no they're already doing it there you go they don't care they're already doing it got sins and sins when wins and sins i was about to say if it's close we might actually have to i thought it was going to be pretty clear but i guess you got all kinds of a lot of sins yeah i think we got i think the sins have it yeah i think so do you think it's because they think that sins video will be worse i let people cheat and then they keep repeating it those bastards well it does seem to be that it's moving around a lot so i'm sure that's they wouldn't do that they wouldn't the efab chat would never do that they're they're good people they would never trick us i would be offended by such things um yeah okay we can do sins first you guys uh big fans of cinema sins i think right um like maybe five years ago i watched a couple videos and like a couple videos it's funny i was like okay j after like a half year knowing j maybe for a year i can't remember because you know nobody likes to remember how long they've known j uh he was like cinema sins have gotten worse like they they got worse they were good and i was like no they weren't and he was like yeah no they were and then we did a stream we watched cinema sins's first video i think it was avengers and he like gets loads of shit wrong and i was like see he was always terrible i don't know what i've achieved by doing it when you talk about movies on youtube that's uh that's it's fine um i mean i could just have words appear on screen visuals piano music if we learn anything really quickly and then people won't really think too much about what you're saying just ding ding ding ding ding don't forget the black and white as well we can learn a lot from thought theater he knew his shit even he knew his shit so well he was just it was like almost clockwork um and we can take pieces from that and we can evolve it into other things like cinema wins and sins do uh so yeah i've posted a link in the uh in the chat we all share if you can click it it'll take you to a browser we're uh we'll be watching the video because i see that we got four names in here which means one of you fuckers hasn't oh there you go i'm doing it now i'm new so unprofessional jesus what do i pay you for it everyone does streams i watch a video together oh is that so he actually is on a poll i just i read tweets about it dothmore poll i'm on porn hub he's on a poll and i don't think this is what people were talking about oh oh my goodness dothmore the first result is actually dothmore pole dance on youtube from hailey what i'm confused oh my it's actually like how strange i don't know how to what do we what how is this dothmore she's just got red hair oh look she comes out with a lightsaber careful she's swinging that thing around that's like a million degrees oh don't worry i got the cover up can't have people seeing this she's gonna get wobblies out yeah we got demonetized for sure people this dothmore pole dance gamma at night gamma at night yeah it's get it off or stick your lightsaber with us i guess that explains explains the clones she kicked it she tried to twist it it'll burn she just licked it she licked the lightsaber she's got she's got a choroban level durasteel tongue okay it's in the law she's put the weapon down now how's she gonna defend herself on that pole to defend yourself oh you know what well let's see if we can try and keep this going right we can remember to do this but every time we have guests we should ask them without poisoning any kind of well what they prefer out of christmas and halloween just to see what they say halloween no no don't poison don't poison anything well it's already poisoned it's not kind of poisoned if what you say because heal's poisoned it now is that what you think it's all ruined i prefer christmas because i got a little nephew he's six years old seven years old and he goes crazy at christmas when you give him presents and it's the bestest thing in the world ever that's what i told him i said that you've spoken to his nephew smile on a little on a little child every christmas i look through the window at heal's as his house and i see his little family getting their presents and their little faces are lighting up with glee and i go that's the spirit of christmas alright drinker what do you prefer christmas or halloween well i think you know the answer here like christmas it's socially acceptable to drink at 9am so that's gotta be my favorite wow molly this backfired on you how can it possibly backfire people can like everyone loves transformers rags people can be wrong people do like transformers and they're wrong alright then oh halloween it's just so because the last time we did the poll last time and i mean i saved it because i figured i might need the hard data to always have my little fingers totally christmas it's totally christmas i would i would bet that most people would prefer christmas again they can be wrong it's fine the superior holiday the superior festive activities are always a halloween i've got a question though am i the only pervert still watching the poll dancing no you're not okay that is five minutes of poll dancing and i'm in three minutes 42 seconds now she's now twisting on the poll while twisting the lightsaber as well can this be law i don't know i didn't know dathmore had a vagina so the thing is like this isn't christmasy at all really like there's a little bit of dark mall this is just the lazy of a photographer just run across the screen what this is so amateur look at her it's half the problem i am i don't think this is dathmore i'm gonna be honest with you i'm not gonna go that far well dathmore can wear a wig so anyway you guys wanna watch a video yeah let's let her finish you know you gotta give her her space i'm gonna have to leave the chat for a couple of minutes if i spent 20 quid on this dance i'd seriously wanna speak to the manager about a refund i just said well clearly they clearly they're hiring so i'd be like well i'll give it a go just spin around and paint my face up i'll be dark whoever you want me to be can you imagine that she was paid to do this oh my god you like star wars she's just like what are you someone in the audience goes you four suck at least you get paid i guess we're starting with the cinema sins on jocker we actually gave it a good ol rewatch recently film isn't terrible i will put it out there that's pretty neat and so it'll be interesting to see everything that's wrong with it because that's what cinema sins promises to do to tell you everything that's wrong with the film i'm sure that's not clickbaits you're hyperbolic i'm pretty sure he nails it all so how does it feel you guys ready to get educated sure his criticisms are fully valid and i'm looking forward to hearing what he's got to say oh my goodness does the video show up for you everybody this is everything oh so it is working for everybody but critical drinker hold on let me see well everything wrong with everything wrong with that's not even aligned is it that's not even it's strange this is the e-fap this is what they're gonna say now they just made fun of the spacing in the fire but the thing is we do do that that's fine we do that as well as other things yes and should with be capitalized i'm pretty sure he capitalized the whole thing as for whether or not it should be that way you know you don't capitalize like in the you're gonna tell him how to be capitalizing really this is a guy who's way more successful than you rags how would you possibly know better than him he's not successful at proper senate structure for titles it's a month to speak to his manager he's not saying no everything wrong with stupid distal was disney it's um no accidentally because because the UI isn't as as uh i guess intuitive as i prefer accidentally moved something away in a way that i didn't want to i can't have things being slightly out of sync it'll bug me okay get yourself onto stream yards man it's easier what did i say stream yards is gay until i decide to eventually use it okay it's a big gay or small gay though that's the question you know about the big gay we all do all right that should do it they change it every once in a while slightly on watchtogether.com where they slightly move the screen or some shit and i have to change it for us but now it's back to normal again okay that's good can't lose this incredible context do we need to discuss the positioning of the everything wrong with i feel like in 18 minutes or less is too high like the 18 is too close to the o he does that because that's just something people get enticed to click if they see it in x minutes or less thing when it's just fucking meaningless because he changes it every video it shows you how long the video is he might have a minute of outro you guys are being tizmy you can't do this you gotta leave him alone he's got a minute of saying please subscribe to my patreon you can just make every video everything wrong with film in two days or less you know a retro logo loses it's effect when a media plug shows up at the bottom of the screen i don't think i think it had a lot of effects and i really enjoyed seeing that yeah i think it's the kind of effort most films wouldn't put in some do it's pretty neat it's like hey look at this the old vision of our logo showing up because this film is set in an older time oh no it says warn a meteor on it that means that we're taking out of that immersion now okay and every year at the best holiday which is christmas as we've established all the families together my grandparents are in the room then i walk in everyone's like fuck god damn it rags you ruined grandma i don't want to know what that means christmas at your house is wild man yeah you're looking at my fucking nephew you're ruining your grandma i think there's something wrong with you no it's because i'm she's the old thing and then i arrive as the new thing and that ruins the old thing that's the first sin all we took from it was you ruined grandma and we want to interpret it as we will i feel like that's gonna be made a bebop rags ruined grandma and christmas christmas jesus birthday all right plenty of consistent ruin grandma fine it's a game for the family this is why you can't possibly give like a game plan for what a stream is gonna be about fucking your grandma no then you didn't have to go that direction it could have been anything we talked about eggnog and christmas carols and shit you went straight to the rags had to go and ruin grandma grandma ain't got no more eggs it might have been one left rags you don't know i was just saying i think that this video is gonna be as dry and barren as she is oh no but i think to look at it it's terrible it's rare for a movie to include critical reviews about itself anywhere much less at the very beginning critical reviews are terrible remember guys i think he's making a good little joke that's clever because the lady said is bad and then he's like films bad 88% of audiences they loved it but you know what it's this shit hey man what was it the person we covered he said it opens with joker hates black women that person didn't like it did they no they didn't does movie bob count as the other 12% of the audience because he's so massive yeah as long as the video is 89% or higher you know that movie bob likes it i just he's just so perpetually fucking frustrated that people like this movie because he's like stop it it's not about anything stop you don't like it oh it was the TYT channel that said joker hates black women oh yeah that was right this is the whole movie right here he tugs it himself enough he can see himself as funny the movie tugs it itself enough vague setting obvious references it can see itself it's unique when you're going like i don't know a film that it's close to people say taxi driver which is fucking wrong people say king of comedy which is closer but still wrong i think people who say this movies like taxi driver have not seen taxi driver i don't even know what he was trying to say this is what this film feels like like a gym style in written type of Batman adventure from the 80s that's how i feel my page just reset what time are we on the show not for you we got these convenient subtitles we can pause on his points you got this whole movie right here he tugs it himself this whole movie right here he tugs it himself enough he can see himself as funny the movie tugs it itself enough vague setting obvious references it can see itself as unique what's vague about the setting it's gotham city i don't yeah is this point that it's close enough to other things well gotham was just new york anyway so it's nothing vague it's very specific i don't really this is one of cinemasyn's problems with his writing like i'm not entirely sure of what he's trying to say here you know that means you can fill in with whatever you want i thought the point of cinemasyn's is meant to point at like logical flaws that's like some portion of what he does the rest of it is these attempts at like genuine attempts at being funny and i don't know jay had this problem you have to try and figure it out every time like this one wasn't a joke this one is him trying to say critically tugs it itself enough it can see it itself as unique i think he's trying to say it's a copy what about me what am i tugging you're not a film buff so you what would you know your grandma tugging at grandma at christmas all right well here we go this is the whole movie right here he tugs it himself enough he can see himself as funny the movie tugs it itself enough vague setting obvious references it can see itself as unique when you're going out of business why would you spend money on a sign clown okay so we got this from some other people as well a lot of people feel this is a valid criticism it's hilarious Jenny Nicholson's point was why would you care about your sign if you're going out of business she said like sign breaking you wouldn't give a shit because who cares you're going out of business that was her point well this is what i mean you get this point you're like okay let's chill out let's reset let's go all the way back to you've decided you're going out of business and you're gonna sell your shit you decide you want to get the attention of the people to sell your shit you know what gets attention fucking clown a big clown with a sign saying everything must go prices are really low we got to get rid of that stock any everything on sales if you're gonna criticize it on that basis you might as well just say why would you care about any of your stock remaining you're going out of business yeah you don't have any investment in that business right I mean it's only a business nobody spends money when going out of business you understand nobody nobody would do that the concept that spend money to make more money is it's a foreign idea to these people like these are adults who are saying this thinking that this is an actual flaw with the film adults well I mean it's always struck me as I don't even do we have a thing for the other than being wrong it's just like faulty nitpicking it's like you're desperate to find something wrong and you pick this like weird it's not like they're spending money on a TV ads they're literally paying somebody like probably well maybe like a minimum wage or whatever just yeah I'm sure they get good deals with the agency for the clowns not to mention by the way if they did do a TV ad and so it was like why pay for TV ad you go out of business I would still be like well because you go out of business now a lot of people know to come to the store and buy stuff my question would be what was the guy doing playing the piano on the screen that would be my question for company the clown also it's a isn't it a music store yeah it's a music store so the piano and the guy playing it probably there's already yeah I'm sure it didn't cost you could buy the piano if you cash in the house you know there's a good chance that piano guys just like actually always selling pianos works there I think a guy with a sign is going to be pretty cheap well this is very mean I don't like why why is everybody like oh my god it's the clown spinning aside what are you nuts this is gonna it's gonna cost you everything no one do you go out of business do you think he watches if you watch his tv whenever he sees an ad he thinks the same thing he's like oh there's these companies are trying to make money why are they spending money on advertisements you're wasting your money yeah it is it's speculating to accumulate Kenny's music shop is the place you've got a going out of business banner which is what all businesses in real life do no banners are cheap no most businesses just pack up and leave the second they go out of business they don't spend any money like I said they don't even open because that would cost money I can imagine that Cinema Sins man is driving down the road and he sees them small business with a sign up front that says going out of business everything on sale must liquidate all assets and he's like idiot spending money walks in the store your lights are on you're going out of business fire everybody immediately why are you cutting your prices you're going out of business this man needs to watch the Don Beverage videos stop spending money giving the movie a sin for me never being able to see the film that's a joke you see if you throw in the jokes that means that whenever you get something wrong that thing can also be a joke if you need it to which he's also said in his defense if you guys are unaware of this that he deliberately gets things wrong sometimes because he finds it funny this means you cannot criticize Cinema Sins I think there's a sign on the left that says bondage fee oh no I want to see bondage fee is she covering up in titty disappointing the film is a prude sweet search the kind of street youth that would do this or exactly the type of folks to be quickly brainwashed into a violent cult by a charismatic leader loser that goes on tv and fights back or is that the point also why is that a sin so he points out these are the kind of kids that could easily be radicalized by a dude on tv who's pushing a possible political position dig I guess it would be better for the film if no one was ever influenced by anything in the movie that's the problem he might be here right now being like no that's a good thing why did you sin it so for this guy basically anything that happens in the movie at any point can be a sin this is where you can categorize his sins you have jokes then you have just neutral observations just things are happening and then it's a sin and then actual inconsistencies it goes into those three like I don't know if we'll find more than that actually because like what you perceived contradictions as well he's very strange like I don't understand and this is another one of the because we talk about this with a lot of different video essayists not that he is counted but he's in the community if you will because they all hate him I don't think people are listening the biggest fans of his videos because you know this is we'll get through the whole thing and make some kind of conclusion on it but like what were you supposed to make of that yeah when you were watching this as one of his fans what were the thoughts going through your head we've got it pulled so we haven't seen his next point yet but I'm just reading it also who goes running after a large group of thieves of our cobbled side is he desperate do you think there might be anything in this film that implies he's desperate it wasn't his sign the film establishes the sign belong to the owner of the shop yeah it would be something the sign cost a lot of money well it gets taken out of his paycheck right some massive investment yeah and he didn't get paid because the sign got broken and he went back because he didn't have a sign so he didn't get any money out of it most folks would just go back to the boss and say they got robbed it's like he'd do that eventually so after he tried to get it back how are you concluding that that makes more sense than trying to get the side back first also it's the boss who makes fun of him by saying kids wouldn't make any sense yeah kids wouldn't steal a sign the fuck and then he's like why would I take the side he's like I don't know why the fuck you would take a side but the side's gone so we've covered this before because a lot of people have trouble with this but it's like if you're the manager that you've loaned out a clown to is complaining that one of their assets is either lost or broken the buck's got to stop somewhere and all anyone knows is Arthur had the sign where'd the sign go he's like oh kid stole it you're like oh kid stole it okay sure why would kids steal a sign ridiculous who goes running after our large group of thieves over a cardboard sign is he desperate baby is he stupid I guess so most folks would just go back to the boss they got robbed the movie does do that he does that afterwards but in the moment in this immediate moment when he could still see them and potentially catch them I like how the movie needed a reason for him to run after them it's just like but there was a reason it took a sign that's the reason they stole the sign that's the reason they took his stuff he went to stuff back yeah we have to get really fundamental it's like he has they took money to live we have to elaborate on the basics of private property and ownership we need him to get his ass beaten so he does I'm not convinced he had a good reason to run after them into an alley that's what you get for trying to sell stuff so far this is my life story was that him trying to say they're absurdly evil or something that was their motivation yeah so again they're just punk kids it happens with somebody yeah they literally bully and beat up a clown that would actually be funny bullies don't exist well what was it Jenny was like this city is just cartoonishly evil there's not this many mean people and it's just like what the fuck I lived in a quite English village when I was a kid I got my football taken off me by a gang of bullies that doesn't make sense they wouldn't do that that's mean did you run after them into an alley? I went back to my mum and said mum my football got stolen from her you got taken out of your pocket money you ran into an alley and they hit you with a football and it shattered into pieces this is Gotham city one of the worst cities on the planet if not the worst it's currently in a state of serious decay there's giant rats roaming the streets super rats there's so many horrible people in this place he runs through a crowded street where there's thousands of people going about their lives and not doing anything remotely bad it's Gotham city this is why Batman comes it's fucking well run why is this in when you make a weird joke why is this in when you make a weird joke I know it doesn't matter you know how you said at the beginning he was probably going to be reaching for stuff and this was going to be as barren as Rags's grandmother well yeah this is what we're getting so far it's just like making up problems that don't exist well like check out this quality of writing god damn movie your title is so big it makes me think you have a tiny penis films don't have penis his film is obviously compensating for its lack of fill in blank with its large title I'm sure he will be very consistent that all of the films with large titles are trying to hide something what's a movie he likes Captain Marvel so big it makes me think you have a tiny penis I don't want to harp on it for like what a shit joke the movie is overcompensating for its insecurity for a tiny penis now it has a tiny penis he has just a hate boner for this movie he's trying to ruin Joker like Rags ruined grandma at Christmas comic book movie giant title war he's trying laughing this movie we have no context so I guess the complaint is that it's too long isn't that the point that is meant to make you feel uncomfortable at first you're like oh he's laughing at something and then you're like wait what is this wait why is it this is juxtaposition because he starts off in the therapist's office and he's laughing and it's painful because of his condition and then at the end of the film he's in Arkham Asylum in the therapist's office and he's laughing uncontrollably and he's not in pain because he's laughing because he loves it he's thinking about the joke the things that he's done so it's a juxtaposition from start to end of how the character has developed from this pitiful creature at the beginning to this disgusting villain at the end who's reveling in this chaos and it ties in with how he finds it painful to stop the laughter in like the first half of the film whatever when he thinks his life is a tragedy but when he thinks it's a comedy he no longer needs to prevent the laughter just embrace it no more pain yeah it's good shit but no too long too long he's going to complain about the flashbacks in the ranks that's the one for the tick boxes oh yeah look Joaquin is amazing in this movie I'll take a sin off here and now for it he rules all throughout this movie the clocks read eleven eleven is this movie a continuation of us does Arthur have a doppelganger is he the doppelganger anyway reading some stuff on the internet says the number eleven can mean anxious shy stressed conflicted scattered which seems to fit symbolically anyway all the clocks being eleven eleven is a f***ing sin oh so you took the time to go investigate what the significance of that was it's a sin it took up my time that's a sin no one thinks it's my time what are we supposed to do with this we're watching a film which has very obvious hallucinations slash delusional episodes I'm on the walls man f*** man they are the worst part of the movie absolutely and he's like what could it be I was just like oh well I thought the point of it was like he still feels as though he's as controlled and claustrophobic as he was in the asylum which is where the other clock was that everything is at a standstill there's also ways you can probably interpret it but yeah I don't know I think this thing is neat the clocks read the same numbers but okay it's a sin everyone seven different medications surely they must be doing something what lady is that really how mental health medicine works by sheer math so she's not um a professional she's just a social worker right and she's just trying to break the ice get him to talk about anything also that seems like a reasonable thing to ask you are on seven different medications this must be doing something to you like at the very least diarrhea please like you just drank two gallons of bleach surely that must be doing something to you like that's not how the body works just by math I mean yeah the question is fair is this not we're giving you we're giving you seven medications well remember uh depending on which reviewer we're talking to that would kill you just seven medications don't have to be any specific could all be placebo's they should kill you did he inject the bleach or did he just chugged that shit man he's sitting on the couch watching the Murray show and he's just down in it that bathroom is a wreck crushed up all the pills melted them in water and then put them into a syringe that's the way to do it he's in its blue yes I don't know how he does it while everyone compares Joker to a bunch of Scorsese movies the one it really takes after is I don't feel at home in this world anymore in which every person Melanie linsky runs into as an asshole or dildos or she doesn't want it's weird guy in the subway yeah she like you can you can argue she could have been nicer to him but like she's clearly you're in Gotham okay and there's a weird looking dude playing with the kid it's like yeah maybe not maybe not yeah but no she's an asshole maybe since he lets everybody play with his kids on the subway in Gotham oh well there you go does he let people ruin his grandma at Christmas keep forgetting that part on the bus at Christmas yeah I hope if I had to walk up the set of stairs every time I went home I would literally die also yeah how's that a sin a photographic location of the character we're all just confused like what also if you had to walk up those stairs every day you wouldn't die you would get really fit yeah you get really good at it eventually do you think there are scenes in this film where Joker is running around and you're like man look at this guy yeah and he's really thin and light because probably he walks everywhere and goes up 1000 stairs a day can you like picture writing that though where he's like maybe his point was that it's it's too I can't even like the idea that it should you know have some drastic repercussions of having to walk up this thing and that the movie doesn't I don't know address that this is what I mean like I don't even but people do use this staircase it's a real staircase like I don't even do they think it was a modern art piece they're like you know what it was invented for the movie between these buildings I don't know what to do with this but like always you go up the stairs the only time we see him go down the stairs is when he's Joker always going to his mundane life and then the coming down is his liberation represents him struggling to get through each day because he's always tired and he's always like dejected when he walks up it but then you know he's seen here in this sin like right I'm adding 10 sins for all the assets that turned these stairs into a tourist destination so regular pedestrians are inconvenienced like well think about it they're all going to die now can't walk up these stairs and so would he add a sin to Rocky for like the Rocky steps this is where I was going with this right so if he's not actually making an actual point he's just trying to be funny again I wonder it's like I'm going to say if I had to climb these stairs it would kill me it's like oh that's the joke I think dads do better than that oh yeah I can see what you did there but oh man climbing stairs that'll kill me oh dad you're impossible yes these stairs are real and I'm adding 10 sins for all the assets that have turned these stairs into a tourist destination so that regular pedestrians are inconvenienced that is the film's fault of course the film should have known better than to portray stairs I'll teach you to be successful and shooting in real life locations instead of studio sets wait this isn't about to be a sin is it why does this part he's sinning the movie because he wouldn't touch something in the movie this thing in the movie's dirty that's a sin this thing in a city that's meant to be grimy and dirty and crime ridden looks dirty and he needed to tell us there's just mounds of garbage bags everywhere and he's complaining about it and he wanted to let us know that he wouldn't touch that rail and simultaneously that that's with sinning the movie why didn't he sin this whole fucking room why didn't he sin the floor this is insightful content apartment complex had a cage around the mail these mailboxes all have locks and keys stop them city you fucking idiot why is there a cage around the... so that it's more difficult to break into people's mail which is a felony by the way breaking into the mail as far as I'm aware so we expect there would be a dude who locks that up and opens it up between well before and after the night passes right that's the idea yeah like a lot of like yeah when he's got to deliver he can walk in there close the gate lock it and then put everything in you know so that no one can yeah or just leave in the generally bigger packages or whatever this is like saying like why do you lock your car idiot how many people try to break in really yeah why would you lock your car I mean you've got a maybe the key I'm gonna lose my fucking shit with this guy it's a cage the vast majority of apartment complexes have a mail room that is locked so you have to put a key code in that only residents know and then you need the mailbox to key to open the you know the mailbox this is a normal thing and it's probably just a good idea well he says this appears to be the slums therefore they wouldn't have it oh okay because I know that when I'm driving through the ghetto all of the liquor stores definitely don't have iron bars all over the doors well hey man the slums they know of every house has railings over them hey man they haven't discovered metal over there okay they're getting there so I guess so I guess cages around the mailbox is only they should only be in like high-class neighborhoods where there's less crime I guess so yeah you shouldn't have more security in more risk prone areas I don't get it that's the slums why the extra money spent on a male prison cage that isn't even closed all the time why would you why would you have it closed all the time I'm trying to think of a cage that is damn this security no one can get to the mail not even the mailman can put the mail in there this guy's got a real issue with spending money on anything spending money on cages and signs whatever next what the fuck like this is the this is the level that cinema says is that it's just like why is he wearing a coat it doesn't look that cold it's like damn nailed it nailed it I guess it's October right so I guess it's chili October 15th case you missed the whole thing about the garbage strike at the beginning and the fact that everyone in Gotham is an asshole and all the streets lined with garbage everywhere this movie pounds you with Gotham is a place information it's almost like all the stuff that I was that pounding us said yeah and at the beginning you gave this a sin for having Gotham be a vague setting and now you're complaining because there's too many detail I refuse to accept this is pounding all the things he's mentioned are in the background the tv is on screen for like two seconds before it pans over the radio these are not individual scenes for each just to reiterate the same fucking message yeah and isn't the point of this the Arthur like can't even escape from it in his own home like even here he's being kind of reminded of how crappy the world is yeah and like he's like oh we can see the garbage stuff and it's like that's in the background of other scenes like what you're talking about there is just decent world building at that point but it's a sin when it's world too big Jeff Stewart isn't a good name I worked for that family for years at least you can do this right back super not casual Batman references super it's Thomas Wayne it's his father it's not a Batman reference it seems really casual though they're just talking a couple two lines about the Wayne's okay and it's it's almost like it's setting up that this character is a thing he's going to feature in this story I'm very confused of what the criticism is it's just potential father which is actually still left ambiguous at the end of the film because although it seems to have been debunked when he's putting on his makeup to go to the show at the end of the film he has the picture of his mum when she's younger and on the back it says love your smile T.W. Thomas Wayne so it's actually ambiguous that Thomas Wayne have actually had a relationship with her after all the things you can take that is that he did actually cover it up or that she took that and converted it in her head to something way bigger it's nice and ambiguous it's nice in that part it's nice and vague yeah maybe maybe Thomas Wayne took advantage of her mental instability and tried to use that to you know he ruined her on Christmas um so yeah what was he trying to say it's like oh Batman reference here that's the thing with adaptation people people will automatically just be like oh you're fucking just Batman gonna be in this like no actually no he's not so super not casual Batman reference it's super not casual no Batman reference it would be odd if we didn't get any mention of who the who Gotham's you know high class elite were given the setting it just makes sense Batman are getting younger of each other you know haven't read that even about him oh well that's a sin I guess talking about Thomas Wayne very casually also if you want to believe anything this woman says you shouldn't have cast that horrible mother from 6 feet under casting he doesn't like the casting choice alright watch they made Robert De Niro the Jerry Lewis character in this King of Comedy people like say that oh it's just like his other movies like did you ever actually see those other movies or do you just telling us that you have seen those other movies well Robert De Niro's in it right so well there you go this movie's a lot like the departed in that way this movie's a lot like um what's a stardust wasn't Robert De Niro in that I think so it was like a pirate I didn't want to see stardust that was a weird movie isn't that the sequel to the Tommy yeah it's I specifically watched both of those movies after this movie came out because people said it was like those other two movies so we watched both of those movies we watched three no we watched four we watched taxi driver King of Comedy falling down and you were never really there mm-hmm we watched four movies after this one that this was that Joker was being compared to and it wasn't like it was most like King of Comedy but it wasn't anything like King of Comedy but it had a little bit to Nero in it by the way of those four King of Comedy was the best followed by falling down then taxi driver then you were never really there there we go everybody's heard about the super rats that are in Gotham now right look Robert De Niro is a legend and we're lucky to have but he is super awkward and I can't imagine someone like him or the character he's playing ever getting a late what isn't isn't that the point that he's meant to be but isn't he meant to be like one of those sort of stiff wooden 1980s yeah he's uh obviously an older dude and he's a classic comedy even remember when he's like I want a clean show I want family friendly jokes I want yes I thought he pulled it off really well I believed it completely get down with the sickness what? get up come on get down with the soup talk show but in all seriousness I mean these guys in Arthur's fantasy he interrupts Murray's monologue and Murray is flattered enough to bring him on stage well it's because of what he says he ends up saying first he's almost you could tell he's primed to heckle well reverse heckle I don't fucking know what it is but he's like who the fuck was that well who's shouting out but then because of what Arthur says right even though this is a fantasy by the way so why would you even question the events running perfectly to real life but he says about how he- this fantasy doesn't make sense he says that um he looks after his mum and that he's trying to bring a smile to everyone's face like yeah that's reason enough to be like oh come on down you wonderful little bro family entertainment that everyone would watch that thing we established later is actually how he runs the show you know that thing you know that scene from the movie that you watched your breath taking but I like to think Arthur interrupted him because watching Robert De Niro try to do funny monologues is painful alright what do you want to what can we do with that alright this is not real conversation goes on for some time oh gosh these these are just two details these complaints you know I don't know what to do with them I think De Niro's character is meant to be awkward because at the end when Arthur meets to killing the three people from Wayne Enterprises he kind of relishes the opportunity to actually engage somebody with some deeper conversation like the mindless process he has to do every night oh you mean when he's like poking him about killing them yeah he recognizes the ratings that he's going to get for something like this yeah yeah exactly exactly and he wants the producer wants to turn it off the producer wants to cut it off but De Niro keeps going with it yeah I would say I get the impression he's got a slight moral imperative to it as well he wants to like you know chastise him for having killed them for our show like it's definitely possible but this is setting up another this scene is setting up another false father it's all about father figures that he he you know looks to but can't attain yeah so he's got the Thomas Wayne father figure got the Murray Franklin father figure whereas another number of course are because when we discover that he's adopted and was abused and all that kind of stuff there is no father so he's always reaching for well I think it's all set up yeah I think this fantasy ties into everything that he's looking for you know it's the father figure it's having a bit of recognition and having many people see him and know who he is you know and not just be an anonymous guy on the street and yeah and accept him it's because the bit where he says to him you know I wish I had a son like you you're doing a great yeah your life you know that's that's just the kind of praise I guess that or the kind of respect that he's been looking for his whole life so it's all those things all wrapped up watching Robert De Niro try to do funny monologues is painful this is not real conversation it is a not real conversation the fantasy he's having the person like what do you mean I'd love to see his ideal version of this scene where it's just like oh so what do you do I look after my mom and I want to bring a smile to people's faces get this guy out of here security talk show meanwhile I dream about ninja cows trying to steal my kidneys well you're not mentally well I don't know is he trying to say he's bored you think it's a joke wait it's painful to watch is what you're saying I would never claim that because I would have to sin him I wouldn't want to do that but my goodness like I dream about ninja cows trying to steal my kidneys how is that not lol so random penguin of doom oh yeah that's classic internet meme adrenaline movie accidentally includes footage from day 45 of production of the machinist probably the height why is that a sin well that's just oh I watched films reference actor loses weight for a role that requires him to lose weight there's a sin right there he was a chunky boy and you are never really here there so yeah he will do it he's like Christian Bale in that way which is why that was probably referenced also can you tell from that shot rags how many bullets that gun holds from this one here no I can't it's probably 6 if it's probably a 38 so it's probably a little 6 pretty sure people have figured out what gun it was because it's just the curious of the it holds too many for that scene later yeah bad bullets can you get revolvers that have like seven cylinders well seven shots in the cylinder yeah you can get those it could be a seven like 22 revolvers can have a bunch more because you know the rounds are smaller so you could put more in there but it's also established that that's actually loaded because when he's dicking about he accidentally fires it off anywhere oh sure the uh no he does not that's true there's spare bullets so it's just spare joke of breath dig assuming he's not asthmatic after living in Gotham all this time ding ding yeah chat seems to think it's either a five six or seven the average someone said it's a smith and wesson 36 chambered in 38 special double check real quick 30 smith and wesson model 36 when we see the gun later i could double check but it looks pretty close i love as well like spot the brits on this chat who know fuck all the guns is that one of them they're knife throwing things does that make tea according to the internet movie firearms database um it is a where is it never mind i thought it would pop something up if i pressed the thingy it's a smith and wesson's chief special pre-model 36 version looks like a pew pew probably the height of subtlety in this movie is when author accepts a gun from a guy who regularly makes fun of him while everybody plays the fool plays in the background so is that not subtle that's probably what i would describe subtle yeah like if we're really getting brass tax here it's like so what would he call it then if someone was to look at their exchange and go he's a fool would that be overt or would that that would like because this is apparently the guy doesn't take the mickey out of Arthur he calls Arthur his boy the guy takes the piss out the midget that's true actually yeah he doesn't make fun of him so he doesn't make he doesn't know he never made he doesn't he just speaks behind Arthur's back that's what we find out about him he's saying things behind his back but he doesn't say it to his face because he's a coward he picks on the little guy because he's a coward so it's inaccurate cinema sins ding to you sir ding it's been nothing but ding so far for cinema sins just like well there's another one this film Arthur accepts a gun from a guy who regularly makes fun of him while everybody plays the fool plays in the background can he's music a guy said you disappeared see here's why Arthur should have called his boss to report his ass beating so he's literally doing that right now and it makes no difference like this scene right here so that he wouldn't be blamed for not promoting the company he was hired to promote well everyone knows that he actually did it he just didn't do it for as long as he was doing and he lost the sign and everyone in the office seems to know about it yeah they seem to the scene with the gun just happened because remember the shot of him messing with the shoe you can see his bruises from behind so obviously they would see it as well they'd be like oh shit you were actually fucked up well yeah Randall gives them the gun because hey I heard about those thugs that beat you up you should carry a gun to protect yourself and then it's like why that previous scene happened and I just love that he's like you should have told your boss this and it's like he literally does it does fuck all because jobs can be extremely rough out of no fault of your own you can get punished hardcore for shit that happens I got accused of being the one who stole the whole bunch of games from the software portion of the toy store I worked in because that's where I worked it was creating because I came on and this was the trap of the toy store software was basically where you go to die because it's like the worst department because it's all games movies consoles everything obviously you can imagine that comes with software and nobody knows how to use any of it or catalog any of it so you just get thrown in there and obviously they tricked me because they were like oh do you like video games do you like movies and stuff and I was like oh yeah sure and they were like yeah you can go in that department great and then you get ditched there to do make everything work and the highlight of it was that I was told to take a stock check after having cataloged everything with those little scanner block devices you can get and they were like why haven't you done it yet and I was like I've been told that I was supposed to be taught how to do it and they were like you don't know how to do it this was like three months into the job and I was like nobody has taught me how to do this yet and they were like well you should have been taught I was like yeah this is my fault this is why I really like this scene in the Joker because it's in retail jobs things go wrong and you just get fucking blamed for it when you had nothing to do with it whatsoever if anything you're the victim and you're like yeah okay that's my fault now but every once per month a game would just go missing and it would always be a new release it would always be really curious yeah well the important aspect wasn't that it was always from our stock it was never from the shop floor it was very consistent is the problem it was like someone seems to be doing this and they were like well it's obviously Mola because he's the guy who is organizing software so he's the one who would have access so he's probably the one who's done it and I got this huge talking down to it it was like if you steal you'll lose your job especially if you're caught and I was like I was like this is the I need this job why would I just you know when you know that you're not the one but it's really hard to convince anyone else you're just like yeah I wouldn't but I didn't do it I don't know what you want me to say I mean if you want to come with me come with me with camera footage or something of me stealing something man be my guest but I have a sneaking suspicion that that camera footage doesn't exist and so they randomly did spot checks for bags and that's another reason why I was like how would I fucking steal this successfully when I've got like no way to hide it it would be really awkward I guess I shove it into my yeah shove it into my passport whatever so one night the outdoors team were working late and they all had bags and one of them was just the manager was with him and he was like ah I'm just going to do a random spot check and one of them was like ah I don't need to do that and he was like yeah yeah round of spot check let's go and he was like do you really need to do that and apparently it was just like super fucking awkward he was like give me a bag and he was like yeah and he searched it and he found I can't remember what game it was but it was sealed and it still had our toy stores it wasn't released yet was the point and so he lost his job the following day and then it turns out like he told somebody there that it's like something he'd been doing for a while because it's really easy to get away with and the point being was that I was like oh I wasn't the one who stole it the whole time no way they were like yeah somebody with a completely different department because that would be way smarter than to steal from your own department regularly but you know I'd be tomorrow in there somewhere but I'd be drawn into these meetings and they'd be like stop stealing please they'd be like I'm not okay I'm still not stealing but you know you have this attitude where it's like oh some kids stole your side okay why the fuck would they do that you're like I don't know why the fuck they would do that why would I know yeah because it's twice yeah it didn't get an apology at all management was just like good you shouldn't steal thanks instead he told no one and now he's going to get reprimanded wouldn't matter if he told them whenever wouldn't fucking believe them what is that critical drinkers seven man man I'm really curious what would happen your fire bullet does it have to then impact the bullet in the cylinder in front and it just starts this chain reaction until the last one shoots out super speed yeah I take it what I should have said was chamber rather than cylinder this looks like the kind of gun that they'd bring out in a film like commando where you're just like this and pulls it out it just keeps coming and coming and coming yeah the joke you could have that gun absolutely yeah and you know he would he would fire like a machine gun all of the cylinders are spinning it would just make sense just go with it they tried 10 bit Batman film where he pulls out a massive gun like that yeah it's like an elongated revolver it's awesome yeah it also does have the old cylinders on it yeah if you gave it a gear handle you could then just it would just look like gun from Final Fantasy so that's true it's just got a gunblade look about it doesn't it yeah that's the first person to say gunblade Yoshi P is currently putting that into the game it's a freedom revolver that one movie inspires Harmony Corrine to make a sequel to Trash Humpers called 32 short film shot near a Ferris wheel sometimes it's just nothing to say it's like okay Ferris wheel in the background I guess fuck that he really hates this fucking staircase like yeah it's the staircase to hell instead of going down you go up to get to hell is that a sin you're happy because you're at the top of the staircase and you don't have to climb anymore so surely that's happy to be in hell oh I wish I didn't get into heaven the stairs were a bitch you know people don't say that really people say dad jokes and stuff it's like but dad jokes make sense these ones are very confusing it's like the staircase to hell go up nailed it to hell instead of going down you have to walk up to get to hell okay courtship hey remember when we briefly it's awkward that's the sin he's not very good at courting a female go figure but she did the same to him in the lift it wasn't as awkward though she's super good at courtship which is why she's single what I just like that the scenes point is that he awkwardly recreates the thing she did in front of him in an attempt to try and like work with it and you know start it later he doesn't he doesn't manage to pull it off very well it's a little bit creepy and this guy's commentary that was you didn't do well socially awkward man is awkward in a social situation who knew never got pussy ding I wouldn't be surprised if this that would be one coming up see by the way look at this one I'm assuming you guys have got the same pause as me but he's like hey remember when we briefly decided as americans to cover our home toilet seats in carpet is that a sin decided as americans to cover our home toilet seats in carpet so being faithful my grandparents had that my grandparents had those things their toilet seat yeah lid even not the seat that was probably a bit awkward the inside of the bowl was carpeted it's really messy it tones down the backsplash yeah we discovered it's called Poseidon's kiss yeah oh it's a beautiful day we all know that oh uh Poseidon's kiss funny to be a comedian half the fan mail I get opens with this exact phrase yeah have you seen your videos well yeah I can't help but be like that's probably the best thing you said this whole video I don't know I'm terrible ding people dislike my youtube videos ding jukocking jukocking jukocking this is a wait your outtake the film gets a ding okay our commentary on this is just going to devolve to the point where every sin will just be chatty form words sorry this is a great shot the whole movie is full of great shots great acting great set designs one of the most well made movies I ever hated great shots this whole movie is full of great shots great acting great set design it's one of the most well made movies I ever hated look I understand this is just a film this is the one you're just not supposed to like like if you're a professional you're not supposed to like this this is the one you're not supposed to like you can't like it the coverage of it feels that way doesn't it it's so forced I mean he's just said great shots great acting etc the best film I ever hated your hatred doesn't marry what you've just said about the film maybe we'll understand it by the time we hit the end after all we're only a fourth of the way through when you've got a channel like cinemasins for your job is to pick apart bad movies maybe there's certain movies that you just shouldn't touch you know I mean like maybe you should just look at it and go nah this is a good film I'm just going to be wasting my time here or maybe his channel should have actually been both the cinema sin and the cinema win so he could balance the films that he was actually critiquing and then you could determine which one had more sins than wins and therefore it would have some sort of stakes instead of saying this film's great fuck off have a sin I want to I want to highlight the Joker's jokes are better than cinemasins jokes but look at this one what did the crazy man say to the straight jacket loosen up a little that's better than literally anything pretty good yeah loosen up a little nailed it why are poor people always confused because they don't make any sense okay why'd the old man like having insomnia because he didn't have to sleep with his wife and and Arthur is going to misspell words but why does he use half instead of have here and use the correct form of the word having twice yes you can what you think if that's what a mistake is his writing skills are not really good what a strange thing to criticize you can totally have that be the confusion that someone has about writing spelling words like why would so I'm so look how he spells insomnia he spells it incorrectly he's clearly got problems with spelling or well so his point is you have having and then he's like so when you spell have you should be able to spell it because you know how to spell having and I'm just sitting there like no you could easily be confused because these words in your head don't necessarily connect that way especially for someone like Arthur it's phonetically that's what he didn't have to sleep with his wife he's spelling it how he hears it yeah he's non-educated look how he spells people there's some words where embarrassed is one of those words that I just for the life of me I will never be able to spell embarrassed correctly the first time because I don't know the right I just unwriting of a you know some people sometimes and sometimes they won't I was going to say what if he pointed out like you spelled it right here but not here it'd be like yeah yeah I messed up like with like with tomorrow it was always learned it was Tom like a name like Tom that's how you know it so that you don't put two m's and only one are so we can carry on with the manager of the cloud rental place thought all right since we're it I know I know northeast southwest by going never eat soggy waffles and never eat shredded wheat with ours yeah my second grade teacher misprue it never eat soggy waffles why are you waffles soggy just like you ruin the whole point is to avoid them anyway okay it's fine soggy waffles they could be soggy from like all the butter and syrup you put on them which can make them taste very good so of course I was a second grade I was fucking stupid so I never this never occurred to me to suggest to her that actually soggy waffles because it waffles essentially a pancake with syrup holders built in that the syrup and the butter will turn it soggy but then it's also delicious I just bought it because I just bought into the system you know I didn't question the authority in that second grade classroom I should have been more like Joker never eat sexy waffles there you go that makes it work 100% because you would want to frame a sexy waffle even though it would rot it'd be fine Arthur was the best choice to entertain sick kids at a hospital apparently the manager of the clown rental place thought Arthur was the best choice to entertain sick kids at a hospital why not I haven't seen the other clowns maybe he was the only one available the whole time the film is talking about how the city is in major depression and how the social services are well being shut down or skimping out of course they're going to hire him he's already proven that he's perhaps vulnerable to attack on the street he couldn't hold onto the sign and stuff and you got set on by these how could he fuck up dance with the kids okay we'll send him to a really safe place where he just has to literally dance in a quiet room it says he got numerous complaints for his performance he had complaints about being weird to the other clowns the other guys working at the agency thought he was weird it's not that he's weird in his job it was the guy's at the back he said and he seems to be doing a pretty good job here until the gun falls out he's doing a good job I know kids are really big on that high brow entertainment I'm sure they're very critical of their clown entertainment while they're dying of cancer I just love the desperation it's like he's got numerous complaints and yet you throw him in here it's like this job and he does a good job here if his pistol didn't fall out of his pants this could have been a potential upbeat for him I put smiles on other faces and then he gets hit by a car that's an alternate movie it was apparently gotten numerous complaints about his performance in the past so sure, it was probably the best option wait, please I love this job so wait, did the hospital call security or something and kick Arthur out? has he been wandering the streets until it got dark to call his boss? no, we don't know how long he was there at the hospital all we need to do is figure out a scenario in which this could have taken place so you have hospital people call his job and tell them what happened and then Arthur calls his job people being like, please don't kick me out because he finds out that that's happened you could easily have had it be that he couldn't have come up with that excuse at first the whole is a part of his act thing and so he was just panicked he could have just left the place, you never know I'm assuming more clown jobs that day yeah, I think it's easy to assume he was asked to leave the hospital maybe he was confused about what he should do and he was panicking but he didn't want to go back to speak to his boss face to face and it's taking them the time to get the courage up to phone him so you get kicked out, right? and you're smart enough to know that they're going to tell your boss so you run to the nearest pay phone done I don't know why this is a problem we don't know enough here well, we don't know anything there's not enough to form a contradiction there's only a, huh, I guess he went to the pay phone and called his boss is he questioning the time that's elapsed because it's kind of night time in this scene where he's getting dark, whereas it was clearly day time when he was at the hospital so is it like what's he been doing all this time or whatever yeah, we don't know how long he was in the hospital that could still just be a half hour or an hour you don't know at that point it would just be like, okay I guess he took a while to get to the phone booth alright maybe he was at the hospital for a little bit trying to appeal with the people about how it's totally okay the gun isn't real, 100% and then they would show us it then, maybe like, uh you know, there's all kinds of things that could happen but it just has to be impossible, I guess oh, pay your phone wait a second, do we need to explain to chat what that is that he's in? alright, so chat it's taking it back a while this is called a phone booth so back in the days before the internet before realistic sex dolls before all that stuff before steam before steam, before PC gaming before gamma girl bathwater there were pay phones so if you needed to call someone out in the out in the world, you had all these little booths they had a telephone inside and they had his phone thing on a hook and he had to press all the individual numbers to call people they had to put money in see, all the young people in chat who might not know what these are and the way it would work is you type in their name and it would call them wherever they are pretty cool it would cause problems though if they were a person with the same name so you'd have to type their name and then two or whichever one they are in the cycle of how many of those people are alive it's a we know what it is we know what a phone booth is I know, I'm making a joke about it's old technology that we don't see anymore and we're young folks back when my grandmother wasn't dry and barren and ruined on Christmas at Christmas I feel like this payphone scene is all to set up Arthur's subway shootout instead of being a natural place for him to be at this moment how is that not natural if you have a problem on a job you need to speak to your boss urgently and there's no mobile phones then you're going to go to a payphone and call him yep, that seems to follow that's a logical thing to do and then you might get a trade-off and call someone if you're trying to make money I want to highlight that he doesn't need a way to get to his job meaning that he could go to the actual job talk to the guy in person and then have the subway scene after that anyway but it's going dark so maybe the closing and he can't get there in time this is what I'm trying to say is that we could have Cinema Sins this scene if he wants it still and everything runs the same so why is this unnatural yeah maybe he doesn't want to talk to his boss after that yeah, that's another one it's plenty to work with if only we had evidence of him being socially awkward yep making a parallel to Bernard Getz in this movie opens up a great discussion about Gotham's thirst for heroes in the throes of a growing sickness but there was a racial element to the Getz shootings and it was debatable he could even claim self-defense but this movie strips away a lot of that context and makes Arthur a straight up victim justified even though he does track down uhhhh the shootings that took place on a subway he's saying that they're like representing that event but they're not doing it in the same way, which is a bad and I like that he says that his actions seem justified when he hunts down and kills the last dude it's totally justified it's not at all like a fucking crazy killer this is the he's wrong because this is the turn in the film where the victim no longer becomes victim they become the hunter so this is the pivotal moment that turns him so he starts his scene as the victim and by the end of the victim he's the aggressor and from here on in for the rest of the film he's always the aggressor it doesn't matter because it's close to a real life event and it wasn't depicted in the same way yeah I guess this is supposed to be close to the 1984 New York subway shooting by Bernard Getz but it wasn't but this non real apparently this is supposed to mirror that but they didn't do it the right way yeah that's his whole problem they removed the racial component look what it says Rex it's almost like we're saying the villains in the world all have a good reason for being this way apparently that's what this scene says what they changed race to class that's what they did they changed race to class the villains in the world all have a good reason for being the way they are that's what this scene says I mean there's a reason for being the way they are there's always going to be a reason this is very confusing what does he mean by good reason like if it's a morally good reason to commit an act would you still be a villain the scene is saying that his response to the action is utterly deplorable what most people agree on is the first kill is absolutely fair enough to consider self-defense because he's potentially being beaten to death the second one is dodgy as fuck because it's like oh and then the third one yeah the third one's like nah yeah we've gone from victim to perpetrator it's that's the whole point I just like the idea that Jeremy watches this scene and he's like what a hero wait wait wait wait who's trying to crawl away from you you deserve it so he's a hero when he runs into the bathroom and shuts the door and starts to relish the fact that he's killed these people and he feels nothing he actually feels liberated by killing them that's not heroic I was going to say he refers to himself if you remember a little later as a hero through his imagination of the girl because she describes the event as heroic or that he took out like the scum and there's only what does she say something like this like a million left fuck them they deserved it because that's his attitude in his head everyone that wrongs him it's odd that a sin here is that these should have been black people it's odd that his I just don't understand the sin from a position of like why did they portray it as like a good thing for him to do it's like what do you mean where he getting that from I mean the third one certainly not he is a villain hunting down that third guy the third guy is like screaming in pain and like fear yeah he's totally running away yeah like the first two okay that's one thing the last guy nah that's murder you murdered the guy you hunted him down and killed him you're a bad person oh he could even claim self-defense but this would be stripped away a lot of that context and makes Arthur that context justified and it's not even this but like I don't understand why it has to be the same thing why is it all subway shooting have to be that thing that really happened but there's three stages here that the first guy self-defense the second guy ambiguous the third guy outright gun down murder so there is a there is a progression between the three people because of the transition of the character so Jeremy needs to shut the fuck up even though he does track down one of these dudes to kill him in cold blood that's he's a sympathetic character because we see him suffer it's almost like we're saying the villains I'm sorry what like why is this new I'm very curious about his position on like does he feel this way about like everyone that's a villain he's been a pitiful character until this point yeah this is the point we lose sympathy for him because he goes and turns from the victim into the villain that last bit throws me that it's almost like we're saying the villains in the world all have a good reason for being this way this one scene is now saying all villains have good reasons for being villains you're like um if this scene this subway scene was isolated as a short film then and he asked me what's the message of this short film I'd be like uh that people might feel people who are rightfully upset and angry and then defend themselves can take like the vengeance can lead them too far or they could become so self-righteous that they turn into villains themselves or that not every you know problemate against you justifies all the actions you take as a result something like that either way it would end with this character being a murderer is he saying it would have been preferable that joker was sitting there and he pulls out his gun he sees three dudes and just shoots them in cold blood because he thought it would be funny and he's like yeah good you're not saying the villain has a good reason for being this way is that the better vision of this scene because it's morally reprehensible to suggest that someone who is villainous had a reason to become what they were I don't know I feel like if this was not happening that he'd be sinning it as well you know it doesn't matter what they did the world all have a good reason for being this way and remember this guy becomes the f***ing joker I don't even know what we're supposed to think about that bad, bad man what are we supposed to think about that a damaged man gets pushed down a bad path by a traumatic incident that puts his life at risk and it makes him become increasingly you know reprehensible and violent like what are you supposed to think about that apart from that's the story that's a perfectly like logical chain of events for a character that's an arc yeah yeah and the whole basis of the jokers character is he's the epitome of one bad day that's that follows the joke or whatever it's a big prominent element of the killing joke he just he's a person who believes that you can be turned because of the events of one bad day come on is he suggesting that this guy is going to become the joker we know this from the film's title therefore the fact that we can feel anything for him that's f***ed up what are we supposed to think he's supposed to be the bad guy and at this point I'm like you have seen movies before right like film like I mean like does he think that in the king of comedy Rupert Pipkin is a hero I think he thinks all protagonists have to be good people and the second that you follow through on that you can't make them bad guys like the joker so this movie's f***ing up Paxi Driver the protagonist of tech what's his name Travis Pickle Travis Pickle yeah he's a guy I think he's incredibly unsympathetic and his motivations are incredibly confusing and mysterious but he is the protagonist how does that relate to this is one good but the other not good I think joker is way more fleshed out as a protagonist than he is so which one's good which one's bad I don't get it someone said Pipkin is like no it's Pipkin Pipkin right Pipkin they call him Pumpkin is the thing that's like this guy becomes the f***ing joker I don't even know what we're supposed to think why can't he at least phrase it so I know what I'm working with like I don't even really know what his criticism is there he becomes the joker what am I supposed to think about that I told you his problem with the scene is that these dudes aren't black because it doesn't mirror the real life thing close enough they stripped away the racial component when they didn't it wasn't there to strip away with they have a shooting where four dudes who happen to be white sorry three dudes who happen to be white beat up by a victim essentially is everybody like whenever you have a shooting is it gonna be like oh this is this is you know the Bernard gets shooting all over again or this is the um what was the big one the Trayvon Martin all over again it's just changed it things can't be their own thing they have to parallel something I was gonna say most people who saw this movie would not have known that it was referencing anything if at all yeah anyone who's not from America probably wouldn't get that and as was saying the point here is it's not a race issue ultimately it's a class issue in that this gets so much coverage because the guys who all get killed are rich successful businessmen and so that's something that he's touching on they ask Thomas Wayne in the first interview we see him in if he's like oh sorry to be asking these questions at such a difficult time it's like he didn't even know the people it's just that you know the ritual of part of this you know collective class and it's very bad when any one of them is murdered anyway it's just like while poor people as Arthur puts over it's like if I was on the floor you'd fucking step right over me you wouldn't care all those dynamics going on it's very about class it's because some people try and make it about race like a lot of people we covered have who's the wasn't it Nando versus movies who said it was it was racist of them to make the only minority significant character a hallucination remember that he said it's fucked up to do that there's one significant character in the whole kid film when it's half the black he's in every single Nah, Rob De Niro as well and he's not a black so Arthur's mom is a villain pretty much but she's white so I I don't even know what to do with stuff like that like this one character was black and like yeah Franklin's not in it too much he's a point of fixation for Arthur yeah well he's just objectifying a woman of color that's racist he's having a desire his constant is his battle with family with trying to have a normal life that's why he goes and pushes to the father figures the Thomas Waynes and the Franklin with his mother who he still holds on to regardless of the abusive way that she's behaved him all his life the woman who lives next door she's the girl fucking next door it's not fucking difficult to work out it's all this the kind of systems of family that he can't have but they're making you feel for him when he's a bad guy you imagine the horror definitely fires one shot into the first guy two into the second and one into the leg of the third that's four then when he catches him he shoots a fifth time then walks up to the guy and shoots three more times so if we're to assume he has six shots at maximum in it I always want to clarify for people right so one in the leg one in the back another one in the back that guy's dead whether or not he had additional bullets that guy's dead yeah this dude's this dude is dead if anything the extra bullets were just redundant pointless but yeah that is I think that is a fuck up yeah I agree that Arthur was carrying around the spare rounds and then reloaded the gun in between the times we see him unless it's the gun the drinker was specifying the 7th chamber the 7th cylinder gun you just whip that out of the purse I would love to see that action he did it Jeremy congratulations you did it good job buddy he's got it says 48 on the screen but I think it's one good job yes adrenaline why is that a sin why would you sin that killing yeah his blood is probably fucking pumping right now oh I've tried he's probably never felt more alive coursing through him coursing through him right now literally taking the lives of three people probably wouldn't give you any kind of you know experience I'm sure that would just be like you'd be like yeah I'll trundle off home I guess just another day and got them do you make your not really a comic book movie and stand out like it's high art and not some lowly movie we can't call cinema like Avengers Endgame have your main character take a time out and do introspective slow dances to a hunting cello theme Tony Stark could have done this while trapped on a Benatar Endgame might have gotten a lemon nominations too you sound bitter you sound like an upset angry why is Endgame not getting a domination it's just really poorly written it has a lot of issues it fucks with shit is it really this haven't forbid there's an artistical take here the music is one of the driving and is there really no other aspect to the movie that would elevate it apart from just moments like this a bit of classical music that's it that's the thing that nailed it Arthur is not comfortable we've established he's massively social he's not comfortable around people he's not comfortable in any situation this is the first time when he's murdered somebody that he actually relaxes and feels normal in his body and he's relishing in it this is the transformation this is the chrysalis they got a footage of me stealing that game and of course this rags meme and then once without context there's nothing I guess this that's our segue I don't poop with the door open I close the door when I poo that's the important law you got there in an empty house Stephen in an empty house I live alone I don't I still get to stay this is my space it's me here I still close the door when I poo I do it even when there's people in the house I have it open and do you know how it feels exhilarating you get adrenaline after you're done and you run out adrenaline fueled poop I can't shoot people on a subway so I just shoot it with the door open and then I go for a run my guests they just walk past and they stare at me and I just stare right back at them but yeah this is the point in the film where he truly feels free and he's nice and he's to be himself he's got that imagining that audience as well because obviously he does this at the end when he actually does get an audience it's all very quite the wonderful come down after that very intensive scene where he you know committed those people as you do he craves acceptance here he's putting himself at the end of the film he's being accepted by others or at least that's how he feels because they're all wearing the Joker masks and they're all giving him attention everything that he wanted it's all about acceptance these parts Jeremy this scene is actually happening in this scene this movie really wait sorry the fact that it's a loose nation is a sin what? it's just just just one second this scene is actually happening in this scene okay that is what a hallucination is that is a sin yep are all hallucinations sin? that's a pretty good hallucination if you ask me oh yeah man she's already got a baby you know she's down the fuck it's true it's only logical we really love it some stares in our last fortune movie like stares sorry Jeremy he just killed three fucking people you dumb motherfucker he's liberated himself he's now walking downstairs not upstairs oh my god the movie like stares sin how dare you man has millions of viewers why would you say this Pikachu is asking if mental illness is a sin yes it's a sin ding ding this part is mentally ill ding residents are taking the side of the killer how do people know enough about this story to have an opinion that the poor person was shooting at the rich people for a reason holy shit how do people know enough about the story to have an opinion on it oh buddy wow can you imagine somebody giving opinions on material they're clearly not familiar with can you imagine that being welcome to planet earth wow people aren't waiting until all of the facts are solid before forming opinions on it based on their life experiences and biases wow that doesn't happen ever no sir it's quite funny that he finds that unrealistic of humans it's like we like to share opinions on stuff remember there's a witness the woman yep they're the weird people around still well the people he ran past people on his way out of the train station they of course would have found out where they were murdered those people and then it would have been asked or they could have reported that he has a dude with like clown makeup or a mask or whatever they say that in the film as well there was a that when he goes back to you know being fired or whatever they said oh it was somebody in makeup and one of them corrects him he says no it was a guy in a mask and so I don't know if you guys are aware of this it clearly has seen somebody yeah but whenever something significant like this takes place lots of people are willing to apply motivation immediately like who was involved this person this person you're like oh was it because of blah blah blah blah blah blah and then someone else is like what you're no proof of that it's like no I know well I mean I don't know and there's some big you know outlet can cover it in that with that sort of framing and then it can become a huge thing immediately when and then you as the plucky honest journalist looks into it and it's like this has nothing to do with what everyone's saying it's got to do with it's like yes kind of what happens this happens a lot is what I'm trying to say yeah with humans construct narratives around anything they see because it helps them make sense of it and you know like you say they attribute meaning to things that they don't even necessarily understand we're good old patent seekers as humans we'll find them where they don't even exist that would rally them behind the killer the only thing people watching the news know is that three guys got shot in the subway by a guy in clown makeup even if they heard the other parts of the story how would this get framed as rich versus poor how many clowns working exactly so three extremely rich dudes we're all murdered by a guy in cloud makeup and you're like how could you possibly see this as the rich versus the poor how could you understand when the witnesses have been like this guy is a mental condition he was acting crazy he certainly wasn't dressed well he was looking like a clown wall street clowns you know the rich clowns you get a lot of the hello David hello Jacob hello bobo bobo he's just in the fucking office we need to look at the the projections for the third quarter bobo has the current results he's like hello he's like with his fucking notes he can't get in the door so he's doing the paint I got stuck in the door moving with the clown I love this idea of the clown that works at wall street I'll be right there with my charts I just got to get to the door they have like a line up of all these well dressed businesses walking in a line to their office and there's one of them is just a clown with huge clown feet just like squeaking every time he hits the ground alright Arthur you're fired turn in your clown shoes and your green hair no no not like clown shoes what kind of coward would do something that cold-blooded someone who hides behind a mask Thomas Wayne here scoffing about mask wearers and the movie is winking so hard at Batman that it sounds like I'm sorry yeah I don't this is what I mean about him he like he picks it up and then he's like that's too overt if I got it it's so obvious I thought it was neat that he's condemning shadowing he's condemning mask wearers as cowards when his son is very likely going to grow up to save this city while wearing a mask yeah shadowing it's just cool it's cool to think about because it's all about POV right in terms of and it makes total sense that he would say this this is a it's a reasonable thing to say this cowards hiding behind a mask he killed these people I just need a little bit of telephone going on there with how it's not a mask at all his makeup but with enough the witnesses can only have so much and now it's it's spread enough that it is a mask and other people are going to take up to wearing these masks to represent it easily happen which cracks the movement yep what if I watch this movie the first time and I didn't even think about the connection between Batman and Thomas Wayne with the mask thing what then is it still still too obvious I don't know was the thing I think that it would only be not obvious if nobody had any names in this then it would be like oh is that maybe a reference to something that's nice and subtle there's a movie theory what if this guy was Thomas Wayne I like the theory that Red Levy just talked about the old lady from the archives and the attack of the clones is Snoke because she wears kind of similar clothing colors and she kind of looks like it's just the best theory ever I know this place is called Pogos because that was John Wayne Gacy's clown name or whatever but Gotham Comedy Club must be steaming for not getting into this movie even though they were only established in 1996 okay so ding Pogos somehow so he's saying that if it is a reference to the John Wayne Gacy thing then it can't make sense well I was about to say so that's just fun for us in a meta way the movie doesn't actually have to have the Pogos that John Wayne Gacy doesn't have to exist even in this universe that's meta you can't criticize it for that I don't know what else to say it would be like if you had this shady place where all kinds of evil conspiracyisms happen in this building and the building's front is like a bar and it's called Nixon's it's like but Nixon wasn't even president yet in this timeline you'd be like it doesn't have to be it's just for us just for us to go oh look it's alright buddy pat on the head he'll be fine why would they name this thing after a murderer serial killing clown it seems really weird sounds like a clown like a funny name what if the guy's last name is Pogo who made it what if people didn't know that Gracie's clown name was Pogo imagine like when that actually happens in this timeline they shut this place down they're like oh fuck we can't be named after a fucking serial killer clown this fucked up maybe they're referring to pogo.com the website how long would they let him do this before pulling him off stage if he's got a set amount of time and he's not hurting anyone I imagine that they'd be like man this act sucks but we can't pull him off yeah the answer to this question is I don't know if you are if you are withholding valuable information from the rest of us I would like to be privy to aforementioned information please tell us the thing that you clearly know the rest of us don't the audience are booing they don't necessarily pull someone off there's all kinds of reasons why you could stay up there and if you've got an allotted 5 minute 10 minute slot and you open with laughing you could easily have people be like I wonder where he's going with this I wonder what's the this is a setup what's the fucking pay off I don't know I mean hey maybe an audience booing and all making fun of a terrible comedian that's entertaining I think the guy then did it as a hero so does he maybe even the movie does the movie doesn't why did you conclude the movie does obviously he does telling this to himself in his fantasy yes oh my god which means the movie thinks he's a hero well earlier on he gave this movie a sin for saying that this was a hallucination and now he's asking maybe he thinks he's the hero when his hallucination is telling him that he's the hero well he said so does he meaning he does think he's the hero maybe the movie does I think that's ridiculous it's not portrayed in a positive light these killings they're not something the movie's like he might be but he's a character it's a perfect example of fantasy versus reality in the fantasy he thinks he's the hero in reality he's the villain do you know how brutal it is when he kills Robert De Niro there's like screaming everyone's terrified and then he like awkwardly stands up and he doesn't know what to do with himself it's not like the movie played trumpets and everyone cheered it's like it's not what happened the way they frayed it finally we're free we've been released we found it when he shot the dudes on the subway with the flashing lights and the screaming and the blood that was totally the movie being like look how awesome this is look how good this is they gave and by the way they gave the movie specifically gave plenty of time to show the third guy trying to get away he goes to different subway cars he waits until the doors close to try and lose him he's afraid for his life and Joker is hunting him down that is the movie exactly he's precisely hunted down you just turned to the director he's like thumbs up this is a really good hero movie you know almost 30% of this entire movie is hallucinated and that's only if it's not 99% why would this woman how is it how does he conclude that all the scenes with her are 30% of the movie it takes up like 5 minutes at most I mean I suppose if you add in the sort of bit where he's celebrating with everyone after he's been pulled from the car wreckage that adds another 10 minutes to the it's 30% it's almost the third I thought he was just referring to the parts with her specifically when he said that I think he said I think he said it was just a hallucination so it could be alright then I feel like he's definitely not 30% either way you know if we're you know he's classing this again as a sin like what like a movie that's got an ambiguous ending that encourages you to think about it and rewatch it and puzzle out whether you know all of it's hallucination or just tiny parts of it or whatever like isn't that a good thing like a movie that encourages you to rewatch and rethink what you've seen how's that a sin I don't know the time to believe something is a hallucination here is when you have a good reason to believe that it is please point me to the part of this that you would think that that would justify the idea that 99% of it it's all a hallucination like why why would you think that because the clocks are the same oh alright why would this woman Yammer on and on year after year about Thomas Wayne to his son but never tell him that he was Thomas Wayne's son didn't she say that she didn't want to tell him or anyone else because of what people would say and then the scene ends with him saying what would they say Amar isn't that covered year after year about Thomas Wayne to her son but never tell him that he was Thomas Wayne's son she's like an endless fountain of Wayne information except one part that I can't think of a good reason for her to hide from Arthur yeah again she doesn't want him to know because of the whole what it'll do to everything else she thinks she's keeping it a secret for everybody's badness even though we don't even know if that's necessarily true yet there's good things about Thomas Wayne in this movie she only thinks that he's a good person he's going to help the city he's going to be good he's a good man we're like family to him she even stops him from laughing at something that Thomas Wayne says on the television she says that's not funny don't laugh at that thing that he said because it wasn't meant to be a joke but Arthur laughed at it anyway and she also explicitly says that she didn't want anybody to know and ruin his reputation and she doesn't want that so less people that know the better because what happens when Arthur finds out he goes right over to Wayne Manor and she's nuts yeah she's nuts as well also she's nuts as well yeah she clearly does not have him in the she only uses him there are multiple scenes in the film that kind of establish that his mother is not a good mom his terrible handwriting implies that he didn't get a good education she talks down to him she doesn't support him she's distant she allowed her partner to physically abuse him tie him to a radiator beat him around the head which probably caused a lot of mental problems while she herself was also being beaten by said boyfriend there's a lot of shit that we find out when he would go to the psychiatric hospital his life's fucked that's why he has the turning from tragedy to comedy because of all these revelations which attack him hit him at one time there's a lot of scenes that support why she doesn't tell him it's a shame that you picked up on these what was subtle to me was apparently obvious to you but the literal dialogue and the stuff in this film the scenes that they used you missed? I don't know maybe he took a bathroom break and didn't see them you should be familiar with the source material if you make a video like this I feel this 40s is finding out only because he read a letter not intended for him I was about to say something about everyone reading it well yeah because those letters aren't meant for him they're meant for Thomas Wayne he's not supposed to be reading them she doesn't want him to read them and also she was in the scene where he comes home late and she's sleeping in front of the television he gets her up and they dance for just a moment that all she seems to care about is make sure he deliver those letters and she goes off to bed kind of leaves them yeah and it seems that she's persistently writing to Thomas Wayne persistently he's mentioned multiple times he asks had anything in the mail for us you know did they write back yeah it seems to be a bit of a ritual that he checks she's not even his child anyway not his biological mother because he's adopted there's adoption papers in the file from hospital well she says that he forged those so I guess we're not definitive on that but I would if I was to take one side or the other there were stamps and presses on those there were stamps and presses these type of people aren't going to be able to forge those Thomas Wayne maybe, Thomas Wayne probably could oh right so you're saying if there was a relationship between her and Thomas Wayne yeah it's not unreasonable it's all ambiguous yeah that's the whole toss up whether or not I think they threw that in there on purpose that she says he forged it because it's to make us go uh huh it's possible seems unlikely to me but possible a newspaper on this train but it appears that the only people reading newspapers are on the aisle seat for a maximum camera the thing is like this Thomas Wayne isn't a villainous person in this film he's not a bad person he says that one kind of crappy thing he's kind of got a bad attitude in that one interview where he uses a bad choice of words but his actions he's not a I wouldn't categorize him as a bad person I'd say no I wouldn't either he's an elitist though yeah a little bit which is kind of understandable given his position but you know he's he's kind of concerned for trying to maintain law and order in Gotham I think he probably wants to make some kind of positive impact with his life and his concern I guess is protecting his son from Arthur when he shows up it's the classic sort of like he sees from his perspective they'll see from their perspective they're each other's villains they're the reason everything because he thinks that Gotham needs to be cleaned up these people need to be helped out because they're making even worse for themselves especially shooting the people in the subway while all of the poorer classes are like the rich fuck us over the rich do this the rich do that the whole class war their side is right it doesn't take a side both sides are portrayed as out of touch if anything the poor ones who are doing the big riots and it's very it doesn't outright say and I think that's one thing a lot of people are pissed off about with this movie is that it didn't condemn rich people rich people but no they are the bad ones I agree that it is quite critical of the people in this particularly the ones who attribute some kind of political motivation to what was just a random shooting of like a guy protecting himself you know that they wrap this up in all their own grievances and they form a movement around something which ultimately was never happened today exactly like this is the criticism I guess like it's so critical of modern culture that people wrap entire political movements around something that has no real meaning to begin with and if you remember when he kills Murray they just zoom out of the camera and you've got like 20 different forms of coverage already on it like the idea of that being something of a problem these days as well and a motivation for a lot of people to commit these sorts of crimes and just the way it's just news it's not somebody that got killed it's just some more news well I think there was only two and they were both from the Gotham the Gotham Journal so it's either like people were either reading the front page or they'd fold it over and were reading the middle I think it was all the same paper um yeah I was gonna replay that one yeah so vigilante clowns still at large from the city mayor news and kill the rich a new movement from the Gotham Journal also you'll find um certainly with the buses and where I'm at like trains as well to a degree but they'll actually give you newspapers as you get on like as a sort of you can get them on trains and then please don't kill anyone I must now and like this is the days before you had cell phones look at look at his environment as well this is another track of Arthur dirty subway before he's riding he's riding with the rich now yeah and they're all very well dressed changed his position he's no longer at the bottom he sees himself as the elite now and he's there with the Gotham elite this is all about the transformation of Arthur and it's done in a visual manner well so there's a guy reading next to the mirror the window right there you see him on the right cause he's he's saying that everybody's reading on the aisle so that the camera can catch all of the newspapers there's a guy reading next to the window but they you think that this is something that people do on the commute is they catch up with the news well he's just he's saying that it's like poorly I guess blocked that you have all the newspaper readers are on the aisle because it's like oh okay and he's saying it's only for the camera and it's like well I mean you've just got a random selection of people yeah this seems like something people would do while they're waiting for the subway to take them wherever they're going instead of just staring out the window at the scenery they've seen a million times before at this point that's a fair counter if you're on the window seat you have a choice of reading the newspaper or looking at the window right while if you're on the aisle seat you might be like I've got space to read the newspaper you do have more space to read the newspaper look at them all the best film he hates well this is what I mean I can't believe I'm defending this I'm like why why are we talking about this okay there's a newspaper on this train but it appears that the only people reading newspapers are on the aisle seat for maximum camera exposure oh there's Bruce Wayne doing his usual preparing for the prom at the end of Twilight as he talks there looks like there's a telescope out there I don't know what he's doing well I'm guessing that's just a Twilight reference it's a tree house he jumps down nice posh tree house I think he's just referencing Twilight like it's a gazebo thing that's in Twilight too Twilight that's it ding I'll never know because I'll never watch those fucking movies this again is why his videos are so fucking jarring because you go from like a criticism and then you do a joke and we're like wait was that oh okay I thought that was criticism again it's really hard to tell some of these we're supposed to we're actually supposed to just nod our heads and go anyway next one Batman looms large over this entire film look the the thing I've told people before that I really liked at the end of Joker was feeling that this is a city that needs a Batman now needs to be saved and it's perfect for like that setup which is why it's such a fun little um direction to take because pretty much all of the stuff we've had so far is Batman comes to a corrupted city as opposed to we see the city get corrupted at least to the Joker levels someone's saying someone's saying that he's referencing the gazebo because Robert Pattinson is gonna Pattinson is going to be the next Batman when was this when was this put out I feel like it probably would have been in time for that that was known for a while the Robert Pattinson thing but yeah all right again that's what I mean I figured it was a reference it's not a criticism it's just a reference it's like all right but the idea that sorry that just the two diametrically opposed villain and heroes that have in a moment what does he mean when he says Batman looms over this film like is he saying that in a bad way what is he suggesting he's saying it in a negative way yeah so we're just kind of stuck here like oh he's very subtly inserted in a couple of moments and that is it what's kind of the interesting point of Joker is that if you don't have all that meta information this plays completely normally but with the audience knowing what we know dare I say the director and writer are playing with that information a little bit it's like oh what's your name Bruce we're all like just beat me the idea that it looms over the film though I should be like well it wouldn't those names don't need to mean anything for this film to stand on its own anyway yeah they only add like sort of meta interest they don't actually improve the story itself as to what happens the Waynes could have been the Higgin' Bottoms anybody Bruce Banner? Almighty? Willis? The Lanch? awesome man good one Solaris there are theories that Arthur Fleck is not the actual Joker he just inspired the Joker but then I don't know why we're watching this movie if that's the case watch Gotham that cinches it he could only experience DC stuff through Batman it has to be related to Bruce Wade it can't be like a different character the idea that the Joker to Batman was inspired by a previous Joker and that previous Joker just wouldn't be interesting to see he's just concluded that why would we want to see that he says that it's a sin that Batman looms all over this film and then whenever he asks a question but what if this isn't the actual Joker if that's the case why are we even watching it like I don't get it he's referencing Gotham because they played with that idea in the TV show Gotham and then he's just decided that's what they didn't Gotham he's going to transplant the idea for this and the film never has done that it's never into it at any point also by the way important to note it's a little subtle but the film is called Joker not the Joker and in the comics there are three jokers right clowns this is this universe's Joker this is this universe's Joker they can do whatever they want I'm confused because again what's going on about it it's bad that Batman is so interconnected with this movie he looms over it wait a minute is this not Batman's Joker then why do we care why are we watching what's even the point which one is it mate and by the way did they ever actually state his age in this film no because he's like oh you'll be 60 god damn years old by the time Bruce becomes Batman couldn't they easily get away with being like Bruce ages by 15 years and Arthur looks exactly the same in the next film and they just argue that yeah he's older he was X age in the previous film and he's now Y age and you're like uh huh he could be 28 he could be 28 here for all yeah is there not something that you do not see on his birth certificate or something the day of birth and you can infer from that that he's like early 30s I think I'd have to check but if someone in chat said he's in his 30s yeah I remember seeing it and thinking oh man he looks pretty old for like early 30s but the weird part is like let's push let's push Joker to late fifties like well you can't do that like wait why why why does Joker have to be like not late fifties Joker's not a physical powerhouse that needs to be young in order to function like how old was Jack Nicholson when he portrayed him late fifties mid to late fifties ding that's what I mean I just think of the interesting aspect of a now grown up Batman who is doing Batman stuff who discovers Arthur Fleck the person who set all of this stuff up a result of which was his parents getting killed and he finds this old weak mentally ill Arthur Fleck like what is that interaction going to be anyway Joker must be 60 goddamn years old by the time Bruce becomes Batman what if he's a 60 year old Joker what happens then what is that interaction going to be like what if they meet the Joker can have goons the Joker can have a bane character he can have whatever he wants he could just be forgotten by the movement he's living in squalor he's struggling to survive he's just some guy what does Batman do now it's such a restrictive thing like you can't have a 60 year old Joker what if I don't know what if so um children okay hold on I've got the thing here birth date unknown oh my god it's as if it's something just like everything else really I'd be curious to scan through the film and see if it is actually never mentioned because if it isn't then yeah they've got freedom they can work with this he wants it yesterday for this and I don't remember them saying it no date on the actual thing either so you can't kind of get an idea maybe if he was a kid at that time either apparently the Arkham clerk says that the files are 30 years old that's something to work with if he's a kid then it'd be 30 I was about to say that means he's at least 30 years old alright and if that file has his birth certificate yeah you're right if that file has the record that he was beaten while attached to a radiator or whatever he's probably 30 what like between 35 and 40 I guess 35 and 40 it could be anywhere around there alright also kids are naive it's a common thing he's like why isn't the kid running away strange or dangerous cause he's a kid why does it I thought maybe you could have a gay Asian Alfred you know you got infinite options but like yeah Alfred doesn't have to be former SAS that's not a definitive even if he was someone grabbing your throat it can catch you off guard especially what seems to be Alfred's Alfred's not exactly he's not looking like that this fella but yeah getting choked up by loser cloud only non-former SAS kid full of such a thing is this supposed to be Alfred yeah this is Alfred everybody in chat or are you going to tell me this isn't Alfred it's John it's Alfred's dad he was the first one okay Alfred's away in the SAS right now but Alfred doesn't have to be former SAS no imagine if Arthur had come home just 10 minutes later his mom would be missing and he'd have no idea why but at least not for a good while so he would eventually find out and then go to hospital and then the police would find him there and so on the film doesn't even fucking change yeah remember the police let him go what is he trying to say he would still be in the exact position either way he goes home right he comes home and she's not there he's like mom where are you what the fuck and then he checks his answering machine there could be a call from someone saying your mother's been admitted to the hospital or he waits there for an hour and he gets called and it's like next to kin what's going on shower I just find it fascinating that he's like wow what a coincidence it could have happened at any point it doesn't change anything why are you saying this stop you hit my brain we got this videotape from Pogos Comedy Club right here in Gotham here's a guy who thinks if you just keep laughing it'll somehow make you funny I don't know if this is in Arthur's head or what but I have a couple questions about this scene first off did someone in the audience videotape this performance or was it Pogos Comedy Club Pogos does it they show it and he said he just said that didn't he the uh Murray he just said that it was from Pogos Comedy Club also why would it matter either way is it unreasonable I don't know that's what I mean I'm just I never get Pogos clearly is recording this to some degree do you not think they keep tapes of these performances well they show it when we go to Pogos for the first time I think they show the recordings happening and not all TVs are going to give the same level of footage and not all cameras are going to give the same level of footage Pogos had closed circuit televisions for the comedians how does he know how is it that you have arrived at this this shot is completely different than the one that shows up on Murray's show so because there could be more than one shot you've concluded it can't possibly be recorded by Pogos what if they said could we have the raw footage or like the tape itself so it's not showing on whatever this TV is it goes way better imagine this there's two cameras and this is showing us one shot I know I thought I would take it to the next level and you know so someone might say God this is just nitpicking I'd be like nope nitpicking is when you're accurate sorry this is just I don't even know what this is conjecture rambling desperately searching for any kind of criticism completely different than the one that shows up on Murray's show and this is the early 80s so it would be hard to believe that they set up multiple cameras in this place why? it doesn't mean it can't happen multiple cameras no it's old they would do that someone in chat said do they not think that video editing wasn't a thing I mean I can get that it perhaps seems that a bit of a stretch that a low level comedy club would invest in really expensive camera equipment I was gonna say if it's recognized by Murray's show he says it by name as if recognizable I guess people know Pogo's I don't know he was referencing it by name because that's where the footage came from he had to kind of state that but if it's someplace an open mic night for a guy who's got no experience like Arthur I just assumed it was kind of a dive well it doesn't have to be a big place to be successful and we don't even know how often that could just be for the hour of that day that we're gonna have an open mic and there's a couple of people we don't have enough information to really make a call yeah all we know is that they record the performances there and then they can lead to people getting their careers doesn't it make sense isn't that how comedians get around if it's open mic you never know who's gonna turn up they could spin some comedy gold you've discovered a new talent they go on you get a manager attached to them you make a lot of buck I assumed as well these videos are perhaps for the comedians themselves to play back and see what works about their show and what doesn't that sort of thing like they could maybe pay money to get the tape I don't know I think you've thought about this way more than fucking I just find that the comment so funny is like close circuit you're like why couldn't it be that it's presenting it to people in the back what's going on on stage while recording it why is that impossible how do you conclude this based off what evidence sir do you conclude said citation needed place second half while our first comedy is awful open mic nights in big cities freaking always have some awful sex plus Murray does this at the end of his monologue and it comes out of nowhere um what makes you think he hasn't done it before and why would it be a part of a segment in this show and not part of the monologue why do you not think that they have some plan as to what they're gonna do before they go live what why would it not be a really it's it's so easy he bounces off it as the point he plays clip and then he does a one-liner and that's part of his ending or opening monologue whatever I think you've seen it was the ending I don't understand why this would need to be its own segment or part of a segment I don't understand yeah and then they just move right along after these two parts would it be a reoccurring bit like stupid human tricks or couple characters like what makes you think it's not reoccurring that he randomly shows clips from aspiring comedians maybe some that are good some that are bad why not why not why not just Jeremy says feels like something that would be part of a segment in his show and not part of the monologue it would be a recurring bit like stupid human tricks or carpool karaoke man I just really wish they'd found a less sloppy way for Murray to mock I really wish you found a less sloppy way to criticize the film he said it was sloppy so it's fair he nailed it it would be ridiculous for someone to put things on their bedside cabinet and to drop the newspaper on the floor next to the bed where they were probably reading it literally have a gun on my bedside cabinet well somebody that smokes all the time in virtually every scene is smoking probably a chain smoker so let's see oh that's kind of interesting on my bedside table I have a gun I have a phone I have a notepad I don't smoke though but if you did but if you did if I did smoke I would probably well I wouldn't smoke inside because it's a rental so but yeah I mean it phoned a gun so it's got not unreasonable at all unless oh I mean I mean got my apartment dee can't have things oh I've got my chapstick over there airbands airbags we got you and your soggy waffles I will say that I am a waffle man myself this dog likes waffles I prefer waffles to pancakes that's me that's me but this is incredibly cute I do love me some soggy waffles though even though I misprue it in second grade and every soggy waffles is there like a critical point of sogginess that you can't go past like saturation down to a percentage if it just turns into mush or you're like no at the point where you have to eat it with a spoon I would imagine as long as you could still eat it with a fork you could even cut it with the fork if you could use the fork to you know cut it into smaller pieces for yourself before the coronavirus before the before the beer happened parents and I go to waffle house and Friday mornings plenty of soggy waffles there dee lish I do love my soggy waffles though I hope this isn't you from this this is a joke that only rags and I will even get can me idea anyway yeah so sorry so his criticism is how ridiculous that you have things in your shop that imply whatever characteristics about a character that's bad the resentment that's been building in the city for weeks seems close to exploding the movie seems to have decided that the main issue going on in Gotham right now is the resentment between the hams and the have nots but that's only after Arthur killed the guy in the subway what do you mean that's only after Arthur killed the guy in the subway the film opens with this on the radio and this is sparked off a wave of protests like this is the the match that lit the powder keg does he not know how world war one started everything's falling apart and then they finally have someone to blame basically as soon as he does that and each side has someone to blame if you will and then it doesn't help because Wayne is like lol clowns and then they're all like motherfucker I don't fucking own that shit I'm gonna dress up as a clown and then I'm gonna burn it down I'm gonna burn it down up until then the news was mostly about the garbage strike and the super rats now suddenly Gotham is a powder keg over a subway shooting that really doesn't symbol so okay so if you have super rats who do you think that's affecting more or less who do you do you think that the rich clown up in wall street as we've established do you think he's dealing with the super rats probably not do you think he's having to deal with the garbage strikes probably not who do you think that's really hitting and who do you think they're getting frustrated at who do you think is getting frustrated at when the social programs are cut who do you think gets annoyed when those things go down and medication is unavailable I'm sure it's all of the everyone whatsoever it's there's no divide that's happening there slowly that gets crystallized by a fucking event that has three rich people just saying it's also almost as if these people are attributing meaning to this the shooting and they've used it to justify their protests you know this is what we were saying earlier it's like this criticism of people who can use an unrelated act to justify really shitty behavior on their own part just because they're pissed off hasn't this also followed when Thomas Wayne said also that their clowns and they you know they haven't made something of their lives you know what he has so it's already had the rich and great the elite and all that well you know talk shit from the ivory tower kind of thing the media have already turned it into a rich versus poor from that event when nobody really knew that was actually what was happening like a poor guy killed three rich guys how fucked up is that they're all clowns stop it but no it came out of nowhere it's not even for a second they go oh was it self defense or anything because what do you mean be a question of them why would they attack a poor person why would they do such a thing yeah what was the struggle between rich and poor at all really how this incident became a spark and some sort of Gotham class revolution isn't earned by the movie at all wait what was the one before that he basically said yeah he didn't earn it's uh the class war yeah the all the newspapers accelerating the news and it's on the tv stations and people talk about it and it is like it's totally great democrat is called republicans cough cnn i agree with several people in chat all you can say is okay okay alright then oh boy clown kepai wane street but also where are they all getting these masks however many stores in Gotham had them why would you say surely they did do you not think that the manufacturers of these masks manufactured more than a couple in order to make oh i don't know a profit i feel like this got started all the way back when the clown shooting happened people were starting to pick up masks this is the little thing called supply and demand may have heard of it we're not seeing billions of masks we're seeing a selection of people wearing masks in the audience for all we know the shops are running out they're like oh my goodness so many people want these clown masks most people do not i can see seven actually i can see seven masks face paint how could they possibly get face paint yeah i see i see six in some face paint at least in v for vendetta v mailed them to everyone which is preposterous sure but not as preposterous as all what this so every citizen is not as preposterous as several people buying masks okay okay i love the idea that we just have this deleted scene that's like oh my god so many people are buying these masks bob we should get a we get an order in for more masks oh okay jimmy beep boop on his computer they're tapping it fleshy's over to a factory and they're like oh shit there's so many orders coming in oh my goodness there's so many orders a boxed up, sell a tape sent over they open them and then loads of people come in and collect them we're like oh thank goodness plot hole filled well you see they're porcelain they're porcelain masks that have been made with the finest of movies the fires the triangles they're very rare it makes it ridiculous absolutely ridiculous they can get that much the green hair uses pigment of crushed up hummingbirds flown in from the Himalayas what you're absolutely correct jeremy give it a sin give it a sin it's ridiculous you nailed it it's gonna be the suck crush up rubies and marble mortars and pestles and sprinkle them on the noses of each clown mask all the stores have hundreds of this mask and stock just in time for a protest movement it's not just in time it's been a while now it's been building and different people have been buying them at this didn't happen over a couple of hours I don't even know how long movie time has it been since he killed those guys probably a couple of weeks I'd have to watch it again to know but we've got plenty of time to work with at least also why are you complaining about people getting fucking clown masks like why come on it's gotta be something else anything you know significant yeah look the sign says clown for mayor and thomas wane called them clowns this is a reaction to thomas wane's tv appearance and if you were a capitalist shop owner spotting that you've just ran out of clown masks and all this clown stuff's going on guys let's get in more inventory crank up the price by 10% done it looking at a raging forest fire a massive conflagration in the woods and being like that couldn't have started with one match no but why would you invest money in more masks when you're going out of business what if this saved the business thank you so much thomas wane for calling them clowns you saved our business almost like both are playing it this way the cops get distracted almost immediately once Arthur arrives he's able to get past a barrier well hang on he's been there for who knows how long exactly he's walking through the crowd yeah but you know we could easily have skipped to when he sees an opportunity he clearly tries to sneak past once you know distraction happens which is inevitable because these people are extremely angry is he expecting the film to be four hours long so he's two hours of fucking Arthur meandering I want to see him on every subway every subway I want to see every single place he goes okay go down every step you know without anyone seeing him find a conspicuous guarded and unlocked door and make his way inside the rich people's gala um yeah it's it's relatively easy from to do all of this I think the it probably would have been harder had it been 100% realistic but it's not impossible it seems like it's a stretch at most well I think once you're past the police barricades outside there's gonna be less security to worry about if you theoretically get to the you know the employee area you'll probably find a place with his costumes to put on the uniform um and then you pretty much golden like you pretty much made it at that point I don't know why the door would be locked by default that particular door but also if the police have to get in and out of the building it should be unlocked for them as well and we are talking about a time where security is just less and significantly in general yes this is a pre-911 world arthur copies cinema since chris and tries to pose as an usher to get inside an auditorium let chris tell you from experience the people in charge of all the ushers at a place like this will notice you walking into an auditorium and did chris work as a as an usher in 1970 I don't know man seems like it'd be a different world because as someone is like I feel like different places have different levels of security and I feel like certainly from the back especially if you're focused on the film and you see an usher walking down you know away from you you're not going to notice oh this particular usher doesn't work here maybe it's not one you've seen before maybe so much that we don't know this is not unreasonable that he puts this on and can flip around for just a few moments while he looks for people and they will come and ask you what the f*** you are doing and they will kick you out if you tell them a bull*** story he is 100% blocking someone's view here I'm not sure I'm not sure I'm just standing in the aisle like f*** you are doing and they will kick you out if you tell them a bull*** story he is one what yeah whose view exactly maybe the guy furthest at the back on the aisle but even then yeah uh yeah I don't know maybe but uh clearly not enough for the person to be annoyed he's blocking the camera man's view I guess yeah how rude asshole 100% blocking someone's view here why would it benefit for a mayoral candidate but why is that a movie sin I don't know Arthur being you know a little non-self aware cause I really care why is that a sin because if it were good the guy would have gone hey I can't see who are you and then he gets exposed by the way there you go Charlie Chaplin Films how does this in any way connect to your campaign for mayor only just enjoying a movie doesn't necessarily have to also notice they have a live orchestra there to do music then I tell you that no theater randomly showing Charlie Chaplin Films would sell out to predominantly old white it's not randomly showing it it's not red there were banners on the outside yeah this was the piece it's a Wayne building isn't it this is owned by Thomas Wayne even where I live they do events where they show old movies and the theater is like a throwback kind of night like those are advertised on the radio and stuff and if you go back 20 years or 40 years then what's unreasonable about this like again you could see a live if you said hey they're gonna be showing old Charlie Chaplin Films or even old Tom and Jerry cartoons but there's gonna be live sound effects in a live orchestra it sounds interesting I mean I go to the orchestra every once in a while this is part of the drive to be mayor this is gonna be amusing he's gonna be getting the rich and the influential Gotham inviting them to this gala that he's gonna be putting on in a building that he owns you know my old nice orchestra Charlie Chan you know all very refined I think he's afterwards Charlie Chan Charlie Chan number two son he's gonna come around there it could be Charlie Charlie Chan and then afterwards they're just gonna schmooze and he's gonna try and get money off them probably for his mayor campaign yeah it's fundraiser you want to donate to me as mayor well it's like a luncheon where it's a thousand dollars a plate or whatever this is not a new concept the old white men in tuxedo's either it's set in the 70s 80s yeah 70s 80s yeah yeah I'm just gonna roll it back because I want to hear it out again because it was odd to me let Chris tell you from experience the people in charge of all the ushers at a place like this will notice you walking into an auditorium and they will come and ask you I don't accept you as an authority of how this theater it doesn't matter anyway he said they will do it he didn't say how fast who knows they may have done it just didn't do it right at that moment see any other ushers no that's what I mean I would say he can't say they forever well he's not there for that long it's a couple of minutes at most yeah he's in and out I will kick you out if you tell them a bullsh**t story he is 100% blocking for a mayoral candidate show old charlie chaplin films so why would a benefit for a mayoral candidate show old charlie chaplin films so the question should be well it shouldn't even be a question it's a mayoral benefit for a candidacy they're also gonna be showing a film why where's the problem what film would connect more to his campaign for mayor what should it have been instead taxi driver something to entertain them should they have filmed a film because charlie chaplin is famous as f**k at this point right so this is just something fun for them to do I don't understand why it has to be more than that how on the plane can it how on the plane can it your campaign for mayor if you tell me this is just a theater in the same building where are they playing commando and so then he moves on to say oh it's just a theater in the same building nobody's why are you where are you going right no jeremy has no idea that this building is actually wane's building he's got no idea at all he just thinks they turned up at the f**king cinema because he's a moron this is the wane building he's schmoozing he's a fundraising he's putting on a show for people my god and I'm sure there's other rooms where they can go for buffets and drinks and talk and this is the main event that they're all here for is to enjoy a theater experience with everyone else but no it has to connect to the mayor's campaign directly weird people used to like going to the movies especially if it's a high class sort of thing like this is probably treated like also this might not actually be a movie theater if there is a live orchestra here this could be a concert hall that they're showing a movie in little did you know his friend isn't usher so he would know better than you oh okay no theater randomly showing Charlie Chaplin films would sell out to predominantly old white men although I really don't understand that point I don't think they care who they're selling to surely surely if it is Charlie Chaplin films surely it's most likely to sell it to older people who remember Charlie Chaplin more than like teenagers in the 1980s also this is like a high class affair yeah Charlie Chaplin isn't like a low brow thing look at this theater it's a classic of the cinema and again this might not even be a this could be a concert hall if they're just projecting a movie onto this is called Wayne Hall the building is called Wayne Hall I've just checked so it could be used for multiple different functions why does everybody want me to notice the J's everyone's everyone's atting me what what about the J's J for Jeremy we demand J as his birthright to respond to cinema sims basically it's just lots of J's okay Joker just happens to be here in the theater which has the house lights mostly up right now during the presentation of a film C Thomas really doesn't bug people though and they're not that distracting are they they're like mood lights yeah it's not exactly very bright also these lights are behind the people so they don't even see them and the orchestra kind of needs lights to be able to see the music that they're playing yeah for the orchestras to see that if there's a good chance they would actually get outside helping as well for this specific event attempts yeah absolutely temp agency in the sea of people with his binocular vision then Wayne happens to need to f**king pee so Arthur can confront so spotting him shouldn't be too difficult enough time you just look around he knows what Thomas Wayne looks like secondly the idea that Thomas Wayne goes for a pee sure in fact I'm probably going to take a pee break here myself well that wouldn't make sense that's way too convenient yeah I already had one oh well slipped away when you guys see if episode poorly written rags wouldn't just happen to go for a pee the second that we cover a video talking about how someone conveniently went for a pee that's ridiculous now all I can think about is pee in and Niagara Falls and Noah's Ark Noah's Ark all right go pee so well this is going on I conveniently went for a pee came back in Avenue damn that's made up that's a retcon that could happen it's crazy world's f**king mental but yeah the idea like unironically that Wayne's going to go pee I'm just like I'm okay with this he's fine with me yeah so a pretty good video so far so I'm really making me rethink my position on Joker being a pretty strong movie I think actually it's not very good at all I'm waiting for the bits where he actually like he actually hates it like really vague or dumb s**t like what is the bit that you really hate that made you hate this film well he said he liked it all this is the greatest movie he's ever hate yeah why because he's a twat because he's just making videos like this for clickbait because the movie was popular then he gets him money well he'd be better off if he you know you would have thought that he would have made cinema wins before cinema wins made cinema wins I'm just going to look because I'm curious to know what the ratio is on this video oh yeah it's probably high I feel like his audience would be happy with this oh actually it is 82,000 upvotes and 23,000 downvotes damn that's pretty bad all engagement and if you look at the top comments a lot of this is disagree with him hey good for you cinema sins fans good for you look at this I can't imagine someone awkward at comedy getting a late night show Jimmy Fallon exists that's what you say I like this one the sea day was in watching this movie was uncomfortable ding well he has given sins for his own mistakes so there's no there's exist cinema sins I'm going to end this man's career cinema sins fans wake up people don't let him convince you of tisms make him do better videos because he can surely right alright kicking on money on making videos when he's trying to make money for a billionaire that is currently running for mayor do I convince that right why would they be security in the bathroom that'd be weird I mean I'm not saying it's impossible just I feel like that'd be odd do you have a safe been out there just just you know come in and watch him piss they could just be by the door outside plus yeah yeah like he's meant to be schmoozing for his mayor campaign like surely the last thing he would want to be security all around him like he wants to be accessible to his potential donors yeah p so Arthur can confront him in the bathroom where there is no security for a billionaire that is currently running for mayor do I convince that right great so in addition to mental illness we can also blame adoption for his eventual staff in life of crime alright this is it this is it right this is it Thomas Wayne did fuck Arthur Flex mum but then she adopted the child to say we've had a baby it's possible that's what it means what what what in addition to mental illness well I'm surprised you're not more outraged by this statement he's saying the film is saying that because he was adopted that led to his snap like as if the film is saying adoption bad watch those orphans man I mean we've cautioned chat about orphans before that is true but I'm pretty baffled by this conclusion here honestly but in the hospital in the next scene it's established that he was heavily abused by her boyfriend I was going to say it wasn't the adopted nature itself that's not the problem the problem was that his adopted mother allowed him to be essentially tortured that that is I personally I think that's the part that's the problem not the adopted part the adopted part not as much of an issue as the tied to radiator naked and bleeding that in my opinion also abused though and quite clearly mad the film is clearly saying that's because she adopted someone adoption in general is just bad I'll turn you nuts bad adoption drive a knife into that child it's an addition to mental illness we can also blame adoption for his eventual snap and life of crime the movie is pretty mostly set in 1981 but Wikipedia tells me answering machines weren't widespread until about 1984 which means Arthur is not only an early adopter but spent a fortune on this device holy shit bro alright so cool story yes he got a he got an early answering machine I guess alright if you are not only in a cloud agency where work is underway and you are trying to do stand up where you will need to be called if you are going to be people are going to pick you up an answering machine is actually the perfect kind of thing he would get for both of those things but Jeremy doesn't like that idea so a fortune he and his mother do not have why not just have a detective also why would you assume that the idea of he has like a really low paying job but he's able to sustain himself in here this place surely has enough money to eventually save it for an answering machine that's not too much of a crazy thing to assume yeah they clearly have food and they can pay their rent I mean I don't know it doesn't seem too ridiculous to me and the house also just because they weren't widespread doesn't mean they were necessarily expensive anyway he could have got a shitty answering machine they maybe just weren't widespread because people didn't understand the utility of them or they hadn't thought to get one yet they were impossibly expensive he didn't have to buy one brand new that's not necessarily what happened who knows where he got this one from maybe it was a friend where he worked maybe it was one in the place he worked they got a new one and he was like can I buy that off you who knows why does it have to be the answering machine so in the 1980s it looks like they could be things like the duo phone TAD114, 112A 111A looks like you could get them for in 1980s money $180 so about $518 today you could have stolen it well you could have stolen it it could have been somebody bought off a friend it could have been a gift that's kind of what I'm getting at you could eventually save up for it and you can consider it a luxury item but it's the kind of thing he would desperately want considering his job and choice of well, desire for career and again it's $520 hour maybe 180 of his pawn shop a closing down sale a musical store yeah it doesn't cost a fortune like calm down what is this suggestion by the way he says why not just have a detective leave a note on the door with his business card when he stops by earlier oh actually hold on demon horns he said no it's a plot hole so well no inference allowed we know that it's a luxury item we know it costs a lot of money and let's this is a fantasy city and a timeline that isn't a real one wouldn't be my first defense of it my real defense is that even in the real world they weren't that expensive like calm down but we're basically the cost of a video game console we're not saying $500 isn't a lot of money it's that you could theoretically save up $500 today yeah like this is $500 modern day so you guys imagine buying something that's $518 that's how much these days yeah 1980s cost today's value is $518 so like a new console comes out you buy the console a couple games an extra controller that's it I'm not gonna say equivalent detective leave a note on the door with his business card when he stopped by earlier I'm confused about the detective comment what does he mean it was an alternative they should have used like instead of him having an answering machine there are all other things he could have done it's like yeah they could have done those other things oh so because this message is about his mother right in the hospital they want to speak to him so they're saying he could have just left a note well but yeah I would just be like but there's no need and we need the answering machine for later as well when he gets contacted by the Murray show people no this is the detectives courting up saying we've missed you we want to speak to you right so honey he's saying the solution is leave a note but you could have everyone leave him notes through his door I guess but I would just be sitting there again like we have reason to assume that he'd want an answering machine and we have use for it in the story so so Arthur does not have a color TV does he in the living room is it black and white I can't remember if it's black or white or color because I saw this same page saying a color TV today's value was 1150 so I'm just curious well we'll find out do not have why not just have a detective leave a note on the door with his business card when he stopped by earlier why do you have to anachron antagonize me because he's doing it subtly a white guy said to a black guy if it were legal I'd have voted for Obama for a third term from get out like I said I can't release these records oh I didn't oh I didn't view that in a racial context my bad what did Arthur say yeah I hear you brother oh that's okay that's racial failure why do you have to anachronize me yeah I hear you brother cringiest line a white guy said to a black guy yeah white guy didn't have a problem with it I'm going to say this to other white guys I've heard it I've heard it in the wild I've seen it on documentaries about white people yeah but he says brother to a black guy the whites and here is a white guy isn't the whole point he's socially awkward isn't that like a stuff that would also tie into it yeah now in a fucking half now ding like I said I can't release these records I don't get the last bit I don't get the last bit I don't understand the last bit what but you can go get them out of the basement and read them to him they have to have a copy of the fucking documents you knit with if they give out copies of the if they give out the documents then they don't have the documents anymore yeah they have to have a copy record keeping purposes you can't give them out you need the original copies that's the point this is stupid yeah well I can't really buy Arthur somehow wrestling this file away from Carl since he's a hundred pound weakling reaching through a slot and Carl seems like he has a much better grip yeah Arthur's grabbing it he's got way better leverage than this guy does he's got a full grab on it and it was a surprise where he took this guy off guard and then if you remember it ends because Arthur head butts the wall and it freaks the guy out so yeah as he runs with the records to freedom I can't help but realize how little security this place has I wonder if criminal evil people ever break out of here if the building has security the security has to know that there's a problem security has to be notified then security has to go to a specific location in order to catch this person who's already bolted off security is not just going to be standing randomly around the hallways also the people who are like around and not handcuffed or anything they're the ones that are already like they wouldn't be that way if they were dangerous like yeah there's not a security guard at every door of every corridor of every level of this hospital you're right what a psychiatric hospital have a copy of her adoption certificate I'm not so this is tied to a whole case yeah it's like an important aspect of her life surely that's relevant to her her ongoing treatment yeah like that's where you see her birth date unknown so the idea that they would have that in there because her case is all about having been with someone who physically abused her and her adopted child like this is proof that she was adopted like why wouldn't that be in the case file I don't know unless someone who's an expert with the asylum records could tell us otherwise I would assume that this is a part of it so I'd say Joker is I don't know I don't know would be 30 to 40 still saying it definitely wouldn't I'm just wondering why Arkham has a file that seems to contain this woman's entire life's details relevant details I mean it has the records of her being here and the records of the adoption that she had which seems like it would be important information it's just fascinating to me that it's hard to understand why they would need all these important details to create a case for exactly what a mental state is what does this guy think like records are I don't know like I didn't put it on the iPad like you this is the whole point you save information damn there were a lot of newspaper articles about this one incident doesn't got them huge what it's quite a horrifying event that any newspaper would be willing to cover also this happened 30 years ago so you'd have for all we know that is all of the coverage so in the 1950s you know this probably was a really big deal of all the things to pick up on house of terror yeah man why did you why is that well what are they they put this in every single you must have this all the time you know a house with a wife slash girlfriend an adopted son tortured against irradiated by some horrible abusive father that must happen every day so of course they would cover it every day just as reference as well it mentions that he's 3 years old when they recovered him does that put him at 33 then 33 well we know now interesting there you go 33 years old such a long running story do you want to get committed because if you had 15 years to bring Wayne and then you add 15 years now to Arthur Fleck Arthur Fleck would be the same age as Joaquin Phoenix as when Batman comes around so boom there you go oh my god we did it guys we figured it out we've done it darewell of a psychiatric hospital after stealing private records that's how you get committed and I want to as chat pointed out this doesn't look like it's front page stuff and we don't know if this is a local newspaper or if this happened in necessarily Gotham city there's multiple newspapers there's multiple newspapers still today Arthur continues to find unlocked doors around a town wait did you say that Joaquin Phoenix was 58 were you trying to say something else 48 it would be 48 I was just curious he's he'd still be 33 plus 15 oh yeah you're right that is 48 so it's 3 years older than he currently is but if this movie was made 3 years from now it would be 1 to 1 yeah he'd be there and there about his current age so you know there'd be nothing weird about him looking the way he looks they wouldn't have to age him or anything linear time is cool linear time wait sorry what was that sin I can't miss any of these they're so insightful she forgot to lock her door oh really? that's how you get committed yeah she didn't lock her door alright the movie tried to tell you that it was but now that it's admitted lying to you what do we do with this now everything we've seen Arthur experience is called into question because of this Tyler Durden moment are there people not lying it's revealing yeah like the first time I watched this this was a reveal to me and then I looked back and was like oh they lied yeah I watched the joke for a second time and I know I was being lied to did the murders even happen did Murray really put his stand up back on the air did he really invite him to be on the show I guess we're supposed to think just this is a lie just what's a lie in case you know we're supposed to question all of it and that's fine it's open to interpretation yeah but I think it's reasonable to know that some of this stuff probably really the subway murders probably actually happened they have very lasting and consistent consequences to characters that are not around Arthur what Arthur hallucinated Thomas Wayne and Wayne's I'm getting killed I would just base it all on the way they frame all of it so that opening hallucination when he's with Murray is like this very deliberate it's almost like him just having a fantasy to himself this and they're very blatant they're like it's all the flashbacks with her and then the end I think there's plenty of room to be like I wonder how much of that is real him in the hallway with the bloodied feet and whether or not he whether or not the Waynes were shot but like the rest of it seems to be pretty I don't think it's about him wanting them dead necessarily yeah I've always assumed that's what he finds so funny is that how this all turned out in the end as a result of all of the pain that's been provided to him right like it all flips around and he's to have been so jealous of Bruce's life only to now have the end of the film has Bruce ending up in a position not too dissimilar from jokers in this movie as well just a complete tragedy well it's pretty unclear exactly what his position is on any of this anyway because obviously he's going to be going to the whole they're too over it with this reveal boo because that's what everybody does who doesn't wants to criticize this film basically didn't know that this relationship doesn't exist here's a highlight reel of all the stuff we wasted our time on to properly hammer you over so I'm pretty sure I'm pretty sure Evan like didn't know that this relationship doesn't exist here's a highlight reel of all the stuff we wasted our time on to properly hammer you over time I'm pretty sure Evan like made a tweet about this it comes to I think 11 seconds or something like that so think of all the YouTubers who went criticizing Joker fucking just rag on this particular bit like 11 seconds holy moly how did you survive did you leave the theater were you so insulted Evan says 9 seconds oh 9 9 seconds 9 seconds I'll never how did you yeah how did you deal with that guys well I've seen Joker three times so that's 27 seconds oh my god over the hip I think the more interesting part about that scene is did he kill jasmine's afterwards and the daughter because I don't know he does I think you say you think he would have I think he does yeah I think he kills her and he kills the daughter because he puts the gun he puts the gun to her head but look at his face it's when he first did it to her when she when he first met her it was all jokes but then when he puts it in to his head he's looking at her as if she's betrayed him because she was his fantasy and he fantasized everything and the reality was but he knows it was a hallucination he knows her he knows her oh why not the guys because the only people the only people that yeah but he even operates within a system he only attacks and kills people who have wronged him in some way yeah but he could look that because it was his fantasy and it never really happened he could use that as her rejecting him his face when he looks at her with the gun to her head this is all open for interpretation I don't think his answer one way or another but he looks at her in a really fucked off way as if he's gonna do something I think that definitely doesn't seem to fit the rest of his behavior though I always took it as this is where he's deciding for the first time he's actually gonna kill himself because he's lost the mum he's lost the girl the hallucination everything's falling to shit and obviously lost the job and it's always been a joke up till now he's been the gun and shooting it but that is this is the beginning of the end now he's committing to he's probably gonna kill himself and it's all the way up until the end of the film that he's going to go what's his name uh I'll forget but he lets him go why didn't he kill that guy witnessed him Gary he watched Gary watch him commit a murder he still let Gary go because Gary never wronged him in any way yeah but he never had fun that sees about Gary I don't I don't I don't believe you would kill her she's just done nothing wrong I don't think so yeah like I see his point though when he's looking at the it could be like well rage passion you know I think it's open for interpretation because it cuts off so abruptly yeah and he's delusional so it's like he could totally like tweet that I think if he left her alive the cops would have arrested him before he finished makeup but no she would have just been like wow this this the guy down the hall who has mental problems walked in here by accident that's even something that she suggests yeah and if he walked into the wrong apartment if he walked right out I can guarantee you should be locking that door from now on yeah I don't think she would have called the cops yeah it's full possibility I think there's so many open elements to this that it's maybe even tempting you to craft your own version of events the director said he didn't kill her oh did it which makes well that's that then makes sense I yeah I think it would be really really inconsistent of him yeah I literally like I'm just going from he seems to lay it out when he's with Murray that kills awful people and I just don't see how he could possibly interpret anything she's done is awful when she's done nothing yeah he kills people that deserve it and she doesn't but yeah someone is saying that there was a removed scene where she is watching him on the Murray show okay he revealed that the lead is seen from the final edit which would have showed Sophie watching the Joker's appearance on the Murray Franklin show he's went on to say that the filmmakers liked using the ambiguity surrounding Sophie's fate as a measure for fans reaction the Phoenix's character there you go most people that I've spoken to think he didn't kill her because they understand the idea that he only kills people that did him wrong she had nothing to do with it most people understood that even as a villain he was living by a certain code Phillips added of course he didn't kill this woman down the hall yeah okay alright fair enough he's hot though I got raw in the chat in caps lock he didn't kill her did not do it it's bullshit we had to there was plenty there there was the ambiguity there we didn't kill her and killed the child and of course we cut to five minutes of him laughing because Oscar bait got a bait Oscar bait got a bait was it eight seconds or oh yeah maniacal laughing in your underwear that's Oscar bait whatever works I guess but that my movie making notes for when I want to make an Oscar movie skinny unattractive man do heart monitors usually just stop making noise when someone dies monitor's job just to beep when someone's heart is beating but when it's over it's like alright I did my job so funnily enough when I just went to the comment section I saw one I didn't highlight it because I realized that we hadn't gotten to it yet apparently that's actually what they do and it's less likely for them to go be and that's a movie invention now I can't trust the comments you know completely maybe that's false that's what I've heard as well but it's the first top comment on the video says heartbeat monitors actually do go silent when heart beats stop flatlining was invented by TV and movies this is actually the first time I've seen it done right so I was if I was making a video response to this you know what you can do is you can it is only take five minutes of your time is you can call a hospital on your phone you can go to a phone booth chat knows what those are now because I explained to them and you can call up a hospital and ask them this question is like hey I'm just looking for information to see if what I saw in a movie is correct do heart monitors really do such and such thing and they'll probably tell you and they probably know that there's different models and makes of heart monitors and maybe they do different things or you just Google it I was gonna say you could just Google it whatever oh boy the amount of time it took to deliver that joke versus the payoff of that joke so again I don't know that it's impossible yeah he he's got like you're seeing the very reason that he would want to buy something like this in front of you look at what all those tapes say and also we know that the club the comedy club which he frequented to get a spot they recorded and he's very obsessed with being a good comedian to the point where he's studying comedians and just failing to understand what works about them so the only question is could he have the money to have afforded a color TV a VCR and an answering machine and I'm like well he's been living for what is what did we figure out 38 years was it 33 33 so yeah if he's managed to pay the bills and travel and food and he just saved everything else and it makes sense to me that he could have afforded these things especially because I bet stuff like this probably had an option for a payment plan not to mention that he didn't necessarily buy them brand new very true there we go we did it we did it guys also did no one at the hospital he does have a color TV did he so why are you not bitching about the color TV that's way more expensive than the that's like three times the cost of the answering machine yeah the answering machine well he also did no one at the hospital have any questions about how his mom died well there could have been a variety of different ways where they just assumed she died she had a stroke if she died then the thing we're talking 1980s again so she can you know put the pillow back put it there then walk out of the place and you'll have well this is the thing they will eventually find out I assume she was suffocated through like pathology whatever and then the police will be told and then they will want to question him which is exactly what happens well not necessarily I don't think because I don't think having had a stroke it would have been viewed as necessary suspicious and autopsies weren't something that was automatically done you've had a stroke you're old you're clearly infirm I think it could have easily been just put down to natural um well either way it's not long after this that the police come to him like he had it's this scene then the scene where he's dying is here and then they come just after he leaves the house but that's probably about the subway that's probably more about the subway oh I must I absolutely assume that's about his mom as well they'd be like she's dead now I don't think it's ridiculous to assume that the hospital would have figured out that she's died in a way that may be suspicious especially with she was alive before he visited and he he wasn't found anywhere and she was dead what clothes was he wearing when he went to the hospital I don't know why does it matter because if he's in different clothes now it's probably a different day which means he probably would have been informed already I can believe he came back and changed I don't know the site that I was looking at showed that the answering because if we're using that site I don't know if it's correct or not maybe that was a specific model however it showed the color TV as much as like two and a half times as expensive as the answering machine so what exact model was it but let's see in 1985 it was $500 for a 20-inch color TV and that's in 1985 so it's not exactly 1981 but that's still $1,200 adjusted for inflation so yeah if you're going to complain about him having an answering machine feel like the color TV might be significantly more expensive again I can believe he afforded all three of those over the course of being alive if he saved up for them which I think we have reason to assume he would but as for did no one at the hospital have any questions about how his mum died we don't know that they didn't and did he just leave yes he would have left there's no reason why anyone would stop him from leaving until they'd have reason to assume they should so it was that he has different clothes because there was a scene with the mum's funeral where the detectives visit him it's the day of the Murray show and the scene is in the trailer yes there is there because it's in the trailer when he smiles he's in the purple suit and he's smiling and that was meant to be at his mother's funeral and it was cut multiple people are bringing up that in the 80's rent to own was a big thing so yeah there you go plenty of there's all these reasonable pieces of information to just we can't see every single thing in a movie right the whole point is the fortune so we see all the things that we need to see and the rest is supposed to be based on information that we would mostly have or can find if we need it but I think I don't think Jeremy likes Google I think he just wanted to bitch at this movie yes please welcome a good friend of the show Mr. Ethan Chase so this is the Dark Knight Returns meets King of Comedy meets Taxi Driver so it's three different movies mixed into one so at what point is it's own movie the Dark Knight Returns King of Comedy and Taxi Drivers when you get to three or more it starts to become like maybe it's just its own thing how about that this is nothing to do with the Dark Knight Returns this is nothing it's more the killing joke he doesn't even know his end reference maybe it's the class thing from Dark Knight Returns and people rising up and King of Comedy is the aspiring to be a comedian through any means necessary and then Taxi Driver is he's kind of a crazyman Arthur's Journey mirrors more the killing joke than any of those sure this is what I mean I think that the elements that we take from these other ones all of them are just sort of like this connects to that, this connects to that there you go yeah I don't Evan's saying the talk show element of the Dark Knight Returns is it the Dark Knight Rises no, Returns Dark Knight Returns the book for the Frank Miller Chris Vanola movie which is also poopy wait which is poopy I should say it's not poopy, Joker's not poopy they watch all three of those movies again then watch this Joker movie a second time he's on the talk show with his shrink it isn't about Arthur Rink who's trying to use the Joker as a tool, as a token to further their own career so no, his reference is completely up I just thought he fucked up I didn't know Dark Knight Returns is even a thing but most people don't either Joker intends to go on the Murray Show and kill himself but it's a red herring and anyone that ever read or watched the Dark Knight Returns knows that already no, he absolutely is going to kill himself he's the vast majority of people who have never read it it's not a red herring he intends to do that it's only after what is said to him in the sequence that he decided he changes his mind he's planning to kill himself in the fucking make up room he suggests but it's a red herring and anyone that ever read or watched the Dark Knight Returns knows that already sadly, that's not very many of us compared to this film's overall audience but still, that herring is red alright, let me check any given book most people haven't read um the Dark Knight Returns he kills the whole room I usually, because the way I define red herring is usually when it's like this is totally leading you the wrong way that's not going to happen while this is totally what is going to happen it just changes right at the end based on his own decisions as a character I don't think that's considered a red herring no I think he absolutely intends to kill himself yeah, a character changing their mind isn't a red herring that's just not how I would classify it but maybe if we go broad or something even when he's in the the makeup room before the show after he's spoken to Murray and the producer and what he's sat back in the chair and he's got the gun pointed at his base of his neck but is it a red herring because it's not what we expected to happen I'm just like I don't think that's how we classify that at all like I'm assuming that he wants to copy that specific material which it's not it would be like someone saying a golem is thrown by Frodo before Shilob fucks up Frodo that's a red herring, golem comes back I don't think that's how we classify red herrings at all I've always associated red herrings with being like oh this is the answer to the mystery that's clearly it and it turns out that has nothing to do with the actual mystery that thing we were just talking about the red herring would be Murray shooting the Joker that would be the red herring that would be quite the ending wouldn't it here's a sentence I never thought I'd write the Joker dances too much in this movie alright someone in the chat saying Dark Knight Returns is the second most popular Batman comic behind Killing Joke most people haven't read Killing Joke yeah most people haven't read any given comic yeah most people haven't seen probably any given movie yeah I'd agree with them google red herring definitions I actually did I was curious about it I know how it's used in like conversations a clue or piece of information which is or intended to be misleading or distracting it's not misleading to tell us that the Joker intends to kill himself he does the red herring was a 2015 movie oh it's not to mislead the audience that he intends to kill himself he does intend to kill himself this is what I mean I just don't think it's not it's the color in a fish especially if this is the cover of your movie red herring you know what I'm sure that movie is fucking great and you're just hating if you would like to watch red herring oh my god starring that's Holly Velads and I know her because she was in Taken Rags she was in Taken remember she's the singer we keep neighbors we're coming away oh there's one of them neighbors who is in this film? Robert Scott Howard Holly Velads Chris McClure Sly Cooper and Eric Miles so according to Rotten Tomatoes the director of this Usakun he he is it is a strange foreign name I don't know how it's pronounced editor nine credits director six credits Kung Fu Earl Shishak with popcorn all caps capitalized and no eye in the width red herring sky and tears well I'm sold I can sleep happy now red herring Lance red herring he was an uncredited actor as a thug at police station in the 2006 film Tears of course that's where I know him from that's where I know him from a lot of people don't know because he wasn't in the credits but he was destined for greatness oh my god sadly that's not very many of us compared to this film's overall audience but still red herring is red here's a sentence I never thought I'd write the Joker dances too much in this movie this movie saw Mel Gibson's over the top axe attack felt compelled to outdo it in every way and I could only blur the entire screen as this incredibly violent overkill attack goes on for some time why is that a sin? violent death is violent why is it a sin? that's the question for every part of this psychopath kills somebody violently oh dear isn't the whole point that it's meant to be frenzied and over the top and uncontrolled because that's the kind of mentality he has now no the sin it's a ding get dinged mother fucker I guess Gary never tells the cops about this because Arthur is able to wait but okay let's run it so Gary his entire goal is to tell the police he doesn't have a mobile phone so he now needs to get to a payphone immediately or maybe knock on someone's door and hope that they have a house phone that he can use now he can't get to a payphone because he can't use them he's too small he's probably going to want to run away from the building I was going to say I think he'll run well I'm trying to be I'm trying to be as pedantic I'm going to be as pedantic as possible with this right best case scenario he does run he gets out of the building goes down the street he finds a payphone he gets on a stool he uses it there's a convenient stool he gets on it he pulls out the thing he's like oh my god Arthur just killed someone in front of me please help building and then the police will eventually get there is there enough time in that process for Arthur to get his makeup finished and his clothes on so you know he runs into the detectives on the way out right what I will say is I don't think they're necessarily connected to any contact from Gary because if Gary told them he murdered someone in front of me they probably wouldn't hesitate to chase him while they're like hey buddy where you going and then he runs and they're like I just don't think Gary could have done it in time I don't think he would have access to it in time before the Joker gets out of the building I assume if you do report a murder like that's going to be a priority call so the police are going to get there as quickly as they can I don't know maybe because Gotham's on the verge of exploding right now the police are stretched really thin so it would take them a while to make sure this is going on the same day true I'm not even convinced that Gary tells the police that's the other thing we've all assumed that he definitely would immediately while I don't know man he probably pretty terrified like maybe he got home and is like fuck I always hated that Randall asshole probably needs to process stuff just lock himself away feel safe compose and then think about it and then call the police process things faster than a normal sized okay I don't know why you're laughing at that Raj is that Gary has short legs he can't run fast that is true yeah it's an undeniable truth he goes really quick to run like a normal person it would have been really funny when a Joker leaves his apartment and walks down the hallway he passes Gary he's walking like the Joker he's walking normally down the sidewalk and he's moving the same speed as Gary running like oh hey Gary's trying to get the elevator but he can't reach the buttons so he's just waiting poor dude could you press the button clean up all that blood off his face reapply and have his makeup get pressed and stroll down the hallway guys this is the weirdest purge movie I've ever seen that's a sin okay I get it well because nobody else is using the stairs at the same time have you ever seen a staircase not being used you can only use one staircase at a time that's what you prefer there's nobody else there right faster than out of control I don't know they would think that he was telling a tall tale there's a famous song by the infamous Gary Glitter plays Gary Glitter is a convicted pedophile everyone should stop using his music in fact most sports arenas have been used fuck that shit yeah I don't think that's what we'd do the artist and the art that's separate as well oh the person who wrote the song is a pedophile so everyone else who was involved in the creation and the production of that song and even the tune itself should be stricken from the history record don't forget any film that's previously had it be censored let's make sure we mop up all the Harvey Weinstein movies Weinstein movies get rid of them they have to be purged everything that he was doing this is not some shit that you were going to be consistent with not a bad idea because it gets rid of a lot of Kevin Smith shit to hell with this idea that just because a person wrote something and then did a bad thing therefore we should stop like this is ridiculous I hate this idea I mean how much first off how much stuff are you going to lose like do you have to be a saint well it also makes you question what do you have to do to reach this point that you have to have all your stuff removed does murder count as well should we I mean what if you kill yourself that's killing a person true like what then Kevin Spacey movies out sorry guys who worked on those movies he's in it I'm pretty sure I saw a video about this I think it was actually Richard Lewis who was talking about this Gary Glitter didn't make a dime off of this movie and he's not even making money off this song anymore somebody else is making money off this song he sold the rights I think in part of the lawsuit of everything that got him convicted he had to sell the rights away so what so so stupid it is not it is not a principle that you are going to be able to consistently apply and you will not apply it consistently the first time your feelings aren't in alignment with but rags is a sin dang dang this guy doesn't come out and say that oh well we have to we have to strike Aquaman from the records because the heroine of the film is a domestic abuser oh boy I'm already excited for this next one I'm just going to let it play first stupid question but how do they know it's Arthur they only met him at the hospital how do they know it's Arthur so tell me if I'm wrong but don't they call him out they're like Arthur and then he turns and then he sprints away what makes you think that they might not think that's Arthur and they know they know he's a clown I just like that he said this might be a stupid question we're all just like oh boy here we go yes it is yes it is well that guy that we called Arthur looked at us and ran away we can't prove it's Arthur I guess do we have any reason to think that's Arthur's like well he's a clown it could be another clown it's just another clown called Arthur he's also got a guilty conscience the guy with his back someone said someone said in quotes no I'm Alfred he said policemen have only met him once the fucking police what did he look like what did our suspect look like don't know wasn't paying attention it's great I love it everyone is dressed as a clown these days because they hate rich people no they're not everyone is dressed as a clown these days because they hate rich people it's not everyone but alright Jesus Christ I'm gonna stop there is this clown supposed to be Alfred around the stairs we've seen that Arthur has to walk up these stairs and then go down a sidewalk to get to his apartment so they either went to his apartment and somehow so they were on his way they would have seen him they saw him go down the stairs and they followed him there we don't know where these two locations are relative to each other no we don't know if the staircase how long he's been dancing down the stairs yeah we don't know if the staircase is two minutes or one hour from the actual building gosh you better than this since I expect better from you well I just completely missed him even though he's been dance walking for 10 hours or the movie just needs them here and f*** you for asking and they obviously don't know about him murdering Randall yet or else they'd be running down the stairs after him well there's actually an argument for that being that let's pretend Gary did tell them and they were like oh god this guy's murdering people now they go hey hey Arthur just looking to have a chat buddy yep how you doing and he starts running and they go fuck he's running and they immediately run after him you know like there's no reason to assume this makes sense right and also how we have no reason to think that they would have that information not everyone's walking around with a cell phone in their pocket these days but even if they did if they shout at the top of the stair he's gonna bolt there's a good chance he'll just bolt anyway so if they can get closer and closer distance it's gonna allow them to get the guns out maybe I think if they were smarter they'd let him go down the stairs see which way he turns sprinting after him but it's you know oh he got to the train just as the doors were closing maybe this is a comic book movie everything that happens is so goddamn convenient so it's a train station it's a busy town there's lots of trains so now I've only been in a subway a couple times when I went to DC trains arrive all the time and they open and close every time they come and stop it's not really that incredible a coincidence and if he was to have sprinted directly there he would have gotten in earlier than he needed to he was heading toward it and he got in just before he would have ran out of time by his own sort of perception like I said if he had sprinted in fact him getting hit by a car was not convenient to him getting on this train was it so can't he see the open doors from a distance and if he sees the open doors from a distance he would want to move he would then go toward them yeah if there was no train there then he wouldn't go up and stand there and wait for a train exactly he would do something else just cause it's not in the frame doesn't mean it doesn't exist in the universe just like why would there be a train at the train station hahahaha hahahaha hahahahahaha hahahahahaha ding that's what they see us as like all the people who hate our effab shit they're like that's what you do oh you needed a car so you went to the road an awfully convenient hahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahaha oh you just went to a river and there happened to be water there huh That's I bet I bet cops it makes it to a subway train car where everyone is dressed as Joker I don't even have clearly not everybody in his escape and thankfully for him the cops get beaten to oblivion They kill somebody so he's he but he's he gets it rolling. He starts a fight It's really clever. That's a fight. Yeah He grabs a mask and the guy pushes in for grabbing his mask He gets bundled into somebody he then points to the other guy who's maskey stole so the guy hits him And that starts the whole process off and then the gun goes off and those officers are fucked Yeah, we know there's a well the event going on because they literally before you leave his apartment They're gonna. Why are you dressing up as a clown? You're going to the protest. He's like no No, he has no fucking he doesn't care about the politics of any of it He's he's entirely at it for he's been downtrodden and he's trodden right the fuck back He doesn't care. He doesn't care about any of this at all. He's going to kill himself on TV. Mm-hmm So he has an hour or two to kill someone said he didn't point he didn't point But he makes it so that he pulls the guy's mask off the guy pushes him He falls into someone and he immediately slides to the right or his left. I guess he like flicks his head He intimates that it's the other guy if I if I'm pushed just think of it logistically if I'm pushed by You into someone behind me and then I immediately duck the guy turns around sees you in an x-pushing motion And it's like why the fuck do you just push me and I'm I'm down there like he he that's pretty much what Joker does Like it jokers the reason it happens He's it's a smart move which is part of why when people are like how could this dumbass ever take out bat bad It's like I don't know bad. He's once he's off those medications He does seem to his brain seems to be operating in a more significant level. I don't know Kill before an APB goes out on an ass. How the fuck does this guy know that this dude pushed Arthur into him? How does he know Arthur didn't push? Yeah, yeah backs away. There you go. He backs. He backs. Yeah, he doesn't know He assumed why do you think people on a subway getting pushed around are the most rational of all humans? Yes, let me take a moment to decide who exactly was the one who pushed me Yeah, he gets pushed into a guy with like a blue Jacket the blue jacket guy instantly turns around punches the dude that from his perspective is standing there facing him Yeah, there's several ways it would be valid one is that he was pushed by him The other is he pushed a dude into me fuck that guy. It's not that dude's fault. It's that of the guy's fault And either way is like, oh, you know This is a highly charged environment where these guys are getting ready to go to a protest where they're all pissed off And they're they're ready to riot. So, you know, they're just spoiling for a fight no matter what Yeah, yeah I will say it is insanely Stupid for the policeman To one they are at opposite ends of an extremely crowded subway car to pull out a gun with your finger on the trigger and Point it towards the person in the back that you want to stop moving. That is insanely stupid But all tensions are high That would be the sin that I Would point out in this scenario Because at this point, they are not being accosted by anybody. They're not being punched by anybody There's a little commotion in the train, but the police people themselves. They're just basically walking through the train and they just Is it is she really bad move and they should know that as a policeman That that would be the point out Don't they pull out the gun to try and be like everyone get that get out of our way where cops we need to get to the Like that's why they're doing this while pointing it into a crowd of people I think I was gonna say I thought he's he had it up first and this once everyone starts pushing around everything gets out of Out of whack. He's the gun goes off and someone's been hit And he got pushed into that guy So I think he tries to show his grip on his gun which makes him pull the trigger Which no he when he first pulls out the gun He is literally pointing it like through to people who have nothing to do certainly dangerous Yeah, it is extremely dangerous like this is like this is the moment He pulls out the gun on the train Right here. I'm watching it back Like none of these people have anything to do with Arthur and Arthur's on the other side of the whole train car and Group of people and he's just like I'm just gonna pull out this gun and point it across this crowded train car For all this commotion is happening between us and Arthur Also this piece of artwork It's EFAP mythology is what it was So I like I like chat is in there Is that the dawn sharing love with Fringy? the frog old Yes What else we have here? We have Cook carrots is toniled with the woke on it He hates to be broken it at home. Oh my goodness You got that we have the snake on the Isle of Man See the the dragon is on one of the legs as well Yeah There is he's got pantyhose on one of them There is Pizza sword with pizza if we got a cosmic trick in in there Yeah, we got the spider web literature devil Black Sun face That's me holding the up sign think Yeah, you are holding the upside Don't give up That's you Next to chat, I believe yeah wolf is with the So the mouse with the cheese The good rat, I assume that's the good rat. He's looking at the cheese. Mm-hmm Who's that who's on the who's on the um the bike? The unicycle thing I Thought maybe I don't know and is it is it spraying toxic fumes into him as he as he rides it I guess It's internet gas Yeah, it was made by Illyria and Illyria is a very good name high-five There's a lot going on here. Mm-hmm And then we go back the cinemas in I feel like this movie was all should we give mark marin a role and someone replied now But then someone else replied but I love him so ultimately they decided to cast him but in the tiniest role That's a sin. That was a sin. There's an actor in this film Listen if they hadn't spent that nine seconds on the flashback, they could have given him nine more seconds of screen time Oh, so what's a waltier Jebs? That's probably what that was the watering the jab Couple of rules though no cursing the wolf color material doesn't Murray have someone who would do this run down for him You know like this character. No, no, why why wouldn't he do it? Yeah It makes sense that he would want to talk with his guests before they go live on his show. No one does that rags Nobody, okay, cuz I know that we actually we began the e-fap today And then we got everybody in the call We definitely weren't in a call and then hit the live button Cuz no one does that 10 15 20 minutes half an hour. Nope I've never even met these people. Why would you even want to have any connection with your guests before you first meet them? Why would you do that in any way shape or form? Most of the time with e-fap we just start them up and then we just put an open invite and first content creator Join just gets in that's how it works Yeah, he's also vetting him to go on the show. Yeah, obviously Depending on his answers that's gonna gone very differently like he said no off-color color that he's like, oh fuck you I could say what I want they'd be like This might not work actually, but this goes really well. He's quite friendly. He's quite civil because you know the makeup says don't put him on and then Murray's just like no, no, it's fine. It's fine Mark mirror. It's got a book a Book of jokes every writer or comedian I've ever known as a book of ideas. Yeah, they don't typically bring it on the fucking show Do they yeah fucking hell come on? That's not even hard I Although stand-up comedians who they get up to the mic and they hold this book out in front of them and just start reciting all their jokes Don't fucking tell me that typically comedians will walk on the stage with a fucking joke book that is not how they do it well Ricky Gervais does so Depending on what Have you seen the he did the one with the he had like the the Noah's Ark book, right? I remember that one That was funny as fuck Well either way like it's it's it's How would you not make fun of this on a show when you're like, oh he's got a joke book. Okay, of course you make fun of it They carry with them. This is not a reason to mock you gotta fill the time with a tree comedy is subjective Murray Isn't that what they say? I have a bad feeling. He's talking about your comedy shit. I mean Come on no one finds this funny come on Here is a clock that is not 1111 right here on the Murray Franklin show isn't this what isn't this the scene that he Breaks out of being real. Yeah, this is the most real. He ever is this is he is so engaged and focused Right here and this is just like once he shot Murray. It's done like his Transition has begun in a very very very significant way because he's no longer killing himself But I mean I just Doesn't it make more sense that it wouldn't be locked in with the rest of the clocks in the scene or am I crazy It certainly draws attention that this scene is it doesn't possess the quality that the rest of the scenes have Which does seem to be the case This scene is a very it doesn't Maybe to show that this scene doesn't have a kind of surrealistic aspect to it. It's not a hallucination This isn't a fantasy. This is the real world. He's not Envisioning it. It's not a hallucination Someone saying he's so focused that he knows the time. Oh, Jay said that Hey Jay loser I'm sorry before that's The clocks are always locked in place when he was on his meds and it's once he stopped taking them. That's what he's Another annoying story to move That is an interesting thought Hey drink it you've been Pikachu'd Oh But yeah, I don't know it seems like if they kept it 11 11 throughout the whole film I guess our only conclusion would be I guess he was in the asylum the whole time or something you could say it like that I just thought it was a It would be indicative that everything changes in this scene which it does so go there goes the consistency Everybody just yells and screams in each other. Nobody's civil anymore Facebook That was a sin What's Facebook got to do Because that's like what Facebook is So that's the that's the film as well We're all just sitting there like well You saw me The comedy is subjective. That was a joke That was a joke. God damn joke which is on the sin counter with all the objective criticisms Which means we can't criticize it Geez does Murray truly believe Arthur killed those guys or is this all about the show must go on? I feel like I'm alive. They try to So they think they think it's a joke at first They've been giving me out the out for it to be a joke and he commits to it And so Murray responds to him as though this is very serious He doesn't know for sure, but he's just taking what he said seriously And yeah, the producer is like lol stop stop stop and he's like no, I got this Yeah, making a motion to cut out, you know, like we're gonna cut me but he keeps going he wants to ding He wants to go with Facebook. You sound like you're making excuses for killing those young men Geez does Murray truly believe Arthur killed those guys or yes all about the show must go on I feel like on a live show This would have cut to commercial long ago and Arthur scored it out by security and detained until the cops came for question Yeah, the producer wants that Yeah, the producer does want that and that does eventually happen. He does get taken away And he's got a gun He becomes president Society Abandoned Donald Trump and treated will he treat him like trash, but society abandoned Donald Trump. I Guess I guess I don't know Obama was maybe sort of every president ever Obama was Maybe he's talking about the Rumble de Roosevelt Is this just are we just do we just have to squeeze an orange man bad in here to please all the people who didn't like Joker or Maybe I'm not familiar with He said he really likes Joker, but he hates it because He's a fucking idiot anyway, but yeah, we've all got to hate Trump fucking Trump. He ruined joke Yeah This ambulance is being driven by one of the insane clown posse and it's going to be the ex machina Joker needs to get out of This but again, I ask because I've seen he goes. He's in as the asylum the next scene. So I didn't really work out Clearly was captured Yeah, there's probably a couple ways that he could be broken out of this they're clearly intending on releasing him because he's the guy who killed Murray Means out of nowhere vehicles hitting another car across an intersection. I'll agree it would have been hard to set that up Yeah, what if it was in so the clown people? So I guess I have to see the reaction when they see him in the car How did this ambulance know a cop car was coming and how did that time the wreck just right or is this some kind of completely? Random happenstance in a world of chaos and it just so happens to free Joker way I'm assuming it was intentional. They immediately go to grab him from the car. It's not like they just wanted to drive into a police car I imagine I mean, I don't know actually because they Because you see from you're inside the car. You're looking in you have the two guys come around the car to see who's in back and then the first guy He looks in he looks to the second clown the second clown looks at him and he points at the Joker inside And then they look at him for a little while longer than they reach in to grab him so It actually kind of seems that they discovered that he was in the police car I mean, they might have they might have just been Waiting to hit the next vehicle that came across Oh, well, they wanted to just fuck with the police and release any prisoners They're currently taking away because they're probably rioters. It doesn't make sense. They'd hit a police car I don't think it specifically was this police car with the Joker in it Just because by their expressions it kind of seems that they're just looking in there like oh shit. This is the guy And even if even if it's not the guy although they don't recognize it is the guy it's still a rioter It's still a guy and yeah, it's one of his Wait, what was the Bruce Wayne thing? Oh The joke is like ha ha as if we didn't already know that his parents die lol It's actually I think it's one of the best transitions. I loved it the way too. Yeah It feels like the first time we've been given all of the context for the event beforehand as opposed to afterward Still with Joseph chill Potentially being the murderer. Maybe not cuz even that's a big you see in the comic It's parents were murdered. So here's the end of this movie. It's pretty good I guess but any of you have watched this movie if it wasn't called Joker. I guess it's probably Yeah, like people aren't upset because it's in Gotham people hate it because it Whatever a lot of it seems to be you're not supposed to like this because taking seven medications kills you rags. That's why Hate it cuz white guys like it. That's why they hate it Next thing that an independent production that has no chance in hell of getting an audience needs to do is somehow tied into a Thanos origin story just a guide I'll tell you why they hate it they hate it because they never got their bloody mass shooting that they desperately wanted That's why that shit was weird They go did and go did and go did somebody to do something at the Didn't release of this film was the joke that was running around that frozen to had more murders related to it So that's why they're pissed they're pissed because they never got their shooting so they could go to their Newspapers to their news articles to the fucking whatever and go back to them. So this is it We knew this would happen. We knew that it would incite this sort of behavior. That's why they don't like this film Fucking fucking late traffic all day yelling. I wish only half these people existed the end Jesus christ joker car movie goes all new heart at the end showing him in therapy and suggesting maybe none of what we saw was real Jesus or that maybe all of it was recanted by him to this lady and that's the end of the story That you can call it an unreliable narrator to a degree or that it all did happen Like if you you know take it wherever you want to I guess if you want to think the all of it was in his head It's just like all right How is that a sin to have a a movie with I don't know It means you're a bad person Yeah, it's people in the chat are pointing out frozen to had more violence associated with it than joker did Where were you? I said that two minutes ago I'm sorry what? How long was he standing in that interviewer lady from magnolia's blood to be able to make multiple perfect bloody shupers on the floor That must have been a lot of blood or this is what he's hallucinating because I I kind of I'm really on the fence about this last scene. I think the last scene's kind of a hallucination I think this is a daydream of his escaping this cell I just like that. He's like there's too much blood everything too much blood light coming from the window. It all seems very Dream-esque. Yeah, well it goes in slo-mo as well toward the end right again very dream-esque Yeah Well, that's it. These are these are usually just reference jokes that he does at the end All right. Yeah, that's cinema sins We made it. Wow Cinema sins is uh pretty good, huh? That was quite an experience I think I realized why I haven't seen one of these Yeah, like what else is there to say it's like there was barely anything in there. It was so bad to be fair Yeah, I don't think I've ever seen criticism for a movie reach so fucking hard in my life. Yeah. Yeah He's he's he's reached was so odd. He's like the elongated man Super hero reference. Was that too? Was that too much for you Jeremy? Oh, I don't know what else to say. It was really bad That was really bad. It works this video. Wow, we're just even We're up to four hours. I didn't even realize. Oh my god. Time travels fast Um, well, I mean Next is cinema wins. Is everybody still alive and active enough to do so? Yeah, at least 50% of my brain is still active. So yeah, and I think it should go smoother because he's He's gonna point out the things that are working about the movie, right? Someone said Arthur joking with Alfred is literally the only point. I'll give them like no that was bad Well, what was our bad point because he invented that Alfred had to be x sas when there's no reason that he has to be Well, it is in the in the source material rags in the comics. He is Oh Yeah, he's he's he's ex art It changes. He fluctuates what? Well, that's that that's that's all we'll get that is that in this iteration We don't even know that yet, but even if it were even if he were that doesn't mean you can't be strangled And he was clearly out of shape. He's yeah from his physique Yeah, even if you had the x sas or whatever he's still clearly in his like, you know retiring age Well then well from the sas anyway Nah, he was in his prime. We all know I can't see him like, you know lead in the uh Well, whatever missions they get up to So is everyone ready for the flip of the coin over to the other side of the internet where movies are praised Because I can't see cinema wins doing worse than cinema sins I don't know Well, this is part one so Oh, yeah, he had to split them up obviously because it when you get over 10 minutes, you've made a video Good for you. Anyway, let's do it sponsored by curiosity stream get free access to my streaming service nebula When you sign up for curiosity stream, oh nebula. That's the place for all the video sas do stuff together That we're not invited to because we're not we're not nice One day God, wouldn't you love rags to work with Patrick Willems cinema wins and many others like them lindsay alice You just gotta get that invite get that get that letter Nebula sign up now. I'm using my link in the description Joker is R rated There is some intense violence in the final act that I've censored for the video But the subject matter is the main thing that's not for everyone. Oh, kidoki You've been warned All right Based on found footage Oof that's a weird tale that pot one's a bit awkward, isn't it? What the hell just started Every time that we need to be warned Retro wb logo council joker start. Yeah, so We were actually on board with this. So this is what I mean This is gonna be a little bit more awkward because we might just go we agree I know he's the opposite. So it don't tell me this is gonna be the opposite. Just whatever Well, they don't like they're not in conjunction or anything But it will be funny how much they will have like a completely different take on each scene But it's just more likely that he will be right because cinemas in sucks There you go virtual logo. This is cool I mean, I think it's a I I would happen like with the concept of delivering wins It's like having a retro logo. I'm like, yeah, it's kind of cool. I'm okay with giving that a win It's just it's just whatever Well, if you're gonna give wins out for stuff, why not this? I liked it I remember people saying um Tarantino used like the original recordings of the music in hate for late or something And that's why it's got that little extra crispness to it around I was like, oh, here's a fuck. Who ever noticed that shit? Hey, man, there's probably some guy out there who was like, oh my god, that crisp. I love that crispiness I love it. So crispy music. Oh, it's so crisp You just hear that crunch on every note No, they're soggy waffles. They were soggy I can hear the soggy-ness of the waffle half this music is just The drip of the I'm okay with this being given a win. I approve Go counts for a joker style 80s opening credits a visual representation of this movie It physically hurts arthur to put on a happy face, especially when you consider the source telling him to do so His abusive mother his mother tells him that yeah So he tells us anyway says that she told him to put on a happy face in his hallucination with honoree Hmm Okay, maybe I guess it was I guess but she she certainly doesn't and It doesn't seem too any we don't see her do it. No She calls him happy that's her nickname for him as well. She always calls him happy God damn it I'm not one to read ahead on superchats Because do you think I am as actions and civil war contradicts as actions in the first I am a movie. I want to kill myself Don't worry. I will answer that uh when we get around to it I just I just I get asked that a lot and I'm like character rock. What's that go away In addition to these awesome Yeah, I was gonna say don't worry. We'll get to everything. I've got I've got it all at a big uh thing mean right mean rags got plenty of uh Super chests to get to um Notice how little of the sky we see and it's deliberate even when we do see the sky in a wide It's overcast other times buildings were digitally added to make Gotham its own oppressive character in the movie That's always trying to crush arthur Okay, sure Yeah, I can't really yeah, it's a fantasy city anyway, so it doesn't have to geographically conform to anything that exists That's it. Isn't um, I didn't know in films uh film in chicago or whatever Yeah, I wouldn't go off and be chicago not new york in that one Wait, was that a question or Yes, say again I didn't ask a question. Oh, all right then This moment of awfulness literally kicking a guy while he's down brought to you by icelandic composer. Thank god Anyway her oscar nominated at least absolutely killer score Droning and dragging and weeping this movie is not the same without it. Absolutely incredible. I'm so glad Yeah, uh, again, I feel like this might this might be awkward. I agree again, you know, like it's like We're very good to an efat where we just go this video good Yeah, we might set a record for the the head quickly we get through this one. That's very true And there's never I think it's actually got one of the best scores Oh, she's a great job. Yeah Absolutely It's the same shot as the wane the wanes when they were murdered Is it Like we're referencing that shot is the same shot as when we're like in the comic or No, I guess is like they're supposed to parallel each other the low shot because the the camera's close to the ground Staring down the alley Yeah, again, it's the yeah joker down at the beginning wanes down at the end Nice Bold slightly bleeding beyond the edges of the frame reminding us the joker is I don't know what you mean by that Isn't the point of joker as a character that he's a small man who's been like forgotten by society Yeah, the larger than life characters would be thomas wane or murray Well, the the joker does become larger than the light when the joke The idea of the joker does I suppose But before then no, he was nobody. That's the whole point of the joker. He was a nobody. There's anything about him I don't I wonder how many people did notice that it bled on the outsides and it's supposed to be a 65 millimeter Another I gotta say inspired choice for the joker laughter is supposed to be a joyful sound instead It rips at Arthur's throat and pulls his face into a grimace. I think I told you I'm pursuing a queer and stand-up comedy. No, you didn't think I did there you have it whether he did or no He believes that he did and one more person who didn't know he did Whether he did or didn't he knows he did So he what he did or didn't he thinks he did he did yes No, he believes it which is enough by the way, but he didn't know I mean, I think it's consistent with the character of his you know Social work where she's totally disinterested in what's going on He highlights that she doesn't listen which as for whether or not she actually does We can't really know ourselves because you don't see enough of them But um, I don't think so No, it is not Why I mean of course believing and knowing it's very different Uh Care about him doesn't I just hope my death makes more sense than my life Appreciating your own joke and also fake out and shadowing since he was already considering suicide Yeah, unless this fairy's considered it well ahead of time Always a little bit of white paint left over on his chin as if he can never Holy take the clown mask off something he learns to embrace I mean, I just assume that yeah, sure. Yeah, let's have a little touch Yeah, I'm not I'm not against it. I just you know I would want a caution not to jump as far into everything as possible whenever you see anything Yeah, I would almost say that it's just a it's just he didn't get it all off Like the first time it nice touch either way Happens we're left to sit with his condition and think about why and what's going on Lesser writers write a line of dialogue with the therapist comments on it I don't know why it's intrinsically better to Have him give a card that explains it that we have to read I mean, I the way that I like they did it. All right the way they did it dare I say But I don't know why it is necessarily better than another way of doing it Well, was it was it to bring in the card because it is not no part of the subway attack later Where he doesn't have the card anymore because Technically yes, and it's and it's nice and natural as well because we know like we're seeing something take place that would Yeah Yeah, but that is a um That is to get the card. Yes. He pats his vest and he starts to reach into his bag. Yes. He does And you know like the the idea that the he laughs for like a minute straight in that therapist scene Then she says uh Is the condition any better or worse as it changed? I wouldn't consider that unnatural I'd be fine with it that way too, but I'm cool with the way that they deliver it Nailing home arthur struggle and slog through life Apple a day keeps the doctor away was wakins motto during prep as in that's all he ate Everybody says Clear buoyance unless you the type of person who thinks thomas wane's son actually keeps the city in a perpetual state of crime What? I mean So she's saying he can save this city and and and I guess he's saying that she's like predicting On accident that his son will be the one that eventually does unless you consider his son Being one that oh, but thomas wane isn't his son. Well unless I miss let me do that again I have great mayor. Everybody says so he's the only one who could save the city clear buoyance Unless you the type of person who thinks thomas wane's son actually keeps the city. Yeah, so he is talking about the son Thomas wane. He's the only one who could save the city That would be If we're going with the batman mythos, then that would be bruce wane not thomas wane. Well, I guess he's trying to Thomas is mad Yeah, yeah, but he's saying his commentary is like she's accidentally predicting that thomas wane will save the city by Through his son technically by having a son who will stop crime unless you think That batman's existence in gotham encourages crime. Well, absolutely. I think that's i don't know why he's coming to god This is like what Mushi saved china This is the moment that justifies so much of the movie. Are we watching a fantasy a flash forward flash back We don't know arthur or his story yet. Well enough to know for sure What he's just he's watching the show and he's picturing himself on it Yeah, I thought it was obvious. It wouldn't be a flash back because he's never met uh Murray before and it wouldn't be a flash forward considering everything that happens So it's About dreams Yes, why seems goofy enough the irony here is that arthur is so out of touch with social norms He doesn't realize his fake laugh is off-putting. So it makes its way into his fantasy. He can't really get to know Seems to be a couple bits of confusion in chat. They got he means that batman is bad for gotham He's referring to batman. It's like, yeah, no, that's what we're talking about with thomas wane's son Meeting batman meaning bruce being batman Cleaning up gotham as batman But then he moves on to say unless you think that like batman perpetuates crime By existing just not true at all. Well, it's what batwoman brings up, right? She's like when I came back at attracted criminals But that would be the opposite of what happens like that's See I I mean you can all unless you're looking at it from the concept of as long as there is a vigilante There will be crime, but if the vigilante stomps out a lot of crime and continues to be a vigilante that is helping I do not endorse vigilanteism asterisk But that's kind of it's very that's why they set up that the gotham situation is so dire But that's basically what it takes it takes a batman Our very strength invites conflict Or challenge. I think he says I don't know. I haven't seen civil war in years I'm lying Sorry, what did he say? So it makes its way into his fantasy, but once we get to know our third We know this isn't how this interchange would have gone at least pre-jokerification Right. I don't know why that's a win. That's fine. Yeah, I don't know why that's a win Yeah, I mean I guess it's just Is he trying to say like this is this is like Clever misdirection because the signs are there that this is clearly a fantasy because he's much better at socially interacting than he would be in reality Like I don't I don't think there was ever any doubt that this was a fantasy right from the beginning It's for all the right there right in the audience on the left In laughter Even fantasy version murray doesn't believe the lines Arthur's writing for him Well, no, no, he's he's like wow how wholesome Yeah, I don't think he's like wow what what bullshit Let's see bite him down and then tells him. Oh, we're sure you're my son. Yeah Why would fantasy murray not believe Arthur's lines? It's yeah, this is him daydreaming. Arthur is the hero of his own daydream Yeah, why what a strange hero of his own story. Never mind his daydream Yeah, that's just persists You know this the lights the show the audience all that stuff I'd give it all up in a heartbeat to have a kid like you It does become pretty clear by the end. It isn't real And wouldn't you know the by the end by two seconds later? So why did he even bother with the like it could be a flash forward flashbacks like well, it's It's not This guy's silly. All right, you know, it's it's very a conventional approach, but okay Okay, I think I've a conceit for the entire movie Arthur is just stretching his leather shoes I guess but he shot from behind in a way that makes anyone seeing him uncomfortable He's all bone and sinew, but still comes off powerful and inhuman You could even project a sinister vibe onto him or say a political movement or other things being I don't know. He looks kind of pathetic and beaten and and down and Wait, wait, he's he looks like an old man that's bent over Or say when he walks he's hunched He's limpy and then as the film goes on and as he develops confidence starts to Straighten up and then by the end his shoulders are out his chest puffed up It's a he's a complete transformation in his movement. This is to show him at his lowest He's like a shade of gray looking like golem and this is the fucking Stronger cop nothing's been I mean, I guess He's he's saying you could attach to a lot of different things to this. I'm not you know I see he's missing the he's missing the the development of the character Not intentionally conveyed and you can pay me back some other time. He will Just in case you weren't sure if that laugh was fake. He's going out of business for god's sake Arthur I don't know if I keep this on That delivery Walking Phoenix is always a win. Yeah, I guess that line delivery was fine. I don't know of all the ones to highlight That one I'm just I'm just happy to concede it because of the job he did for the movie. Yeah, it was good It seems weird that if you're gonna like specifically give Particular lines Like I wonder why it was that one that kind of stuck with him I liked it Yeah, I liked it too I think that Arthur sees things in a different way than Sophie This interchange was a complete win in his mind, but he clearly freaked her right out Travis had a foresight to keep all his guns unloaded But I mean if dancing skill is more important to Arthur than we may have realized we're getting quick Why he's referring to see so is what he's already he's referring to travis bickle buckle belt sander whatever it is um Who is who is practicing and excessively Too many amounts of times pointing at nothing in his room Uh It's because we're already comparing it's taxi driver because this movie's just like the taxi driver because I haven't actually seen Fuck it noise Sino wins would have seen taxi driver. He's a Sina Sina Mastapisa. He knows his stuff. All right people Well, we saw taxi driver after this and it's just not even in this. It's just Nowhere near it Rags, you know, you're on an island with that Reposition right chat Who would this cast who Al you've seen taxi driver, right? Yeah, but not a long long time Brinker you've seen it, right? Yeah, likewise about like 15 years ago or something. God damn it As you see that right I've seen it, but at last time I saw it was 20 years ago. Well, yeah Those films I watched because well, you know, it's one of those 100 films that you're gonna watch before you die get a thing And I watched it oh Okay I know I know right. Okay That was the movie But this is not anything like the joker and taxi driver Are the anyone who says that it's just one's a rip off of the other is insane Yeah, I agree. I think that they're starkly different and the connections are way too broad and they annoy the fuck out of me But um inspired it's fine with me I don't it's like the idea that you got encouraged to make this because of things that came to your mind from having watched Taxi drivers like yeah, that's fine Someone said shut up rags joker borrows from taxi driver aesthetics But it's not trying to be the same movie because it's not the same movie at all Everyone's like it borrows taxi driver aesthetics. So Well, like grimy city This is what I mean, you have to get pretty broad you have to be like Yeah, it's pretty pretty broad grimy 80s city Could be A troubled protagonist Both his inability to know what is funny about the stand-up set laughing at the wrong times Even being confused when the audience laughs as well as signs of dyslexia, which tracks with what we find out later Since dyslexia has been called a neurological Wait he um he read his So he's got observations which looks to be spelt with us Zed, uh Maybe or not, but um cinema wins wrote it as though he wrote d Oh And he's flipped them because of dyslexia as opposed to the fact that it looks as if he wrote Oh, and then a b but backward if you know what I mean or flipped Um Well watch the way that he puts it on screen again He used when the audience laughs as well as signs of dyslexia which tracks see he's written it as if he's written a d But from what I can see on the pad. It just looks like oh and then b but the b is obviously Yeah, he like a six his point his point stands, but the way that he illustrates it is incorrect Yeah, I'm I'm totally the the I yeah, like I'm fine with it. It's just interesting that he decided that that was a d Wait actually hold up if he doesn't Yeah, that's not dyslexia that same. Yeah, that isn't dyslexia. That is an o and a b. That's not a d and an o You can see you can see the Also, I think you put a I think you put a zed maybe for because of observations. He thought that it was a zed Uh, yeah, we thought that we've seen that he writes Yeah, that seems to be the consistent way that joker writes is uh, he would speak it out to himself and be like This is how it's spelled then because he was never taught how the words were spelled. Yeah Yeah, yeah, I don't know if this is I actually don't yeah I I the moment ago I thought that he was Making at least a good observation, but here I think he's just wrong I mean, I look at it I think I think he could easily have dyslexia. I just think this poor example Yeah, if if you're gonna try and convince me he had uh dyslexia and you showed me this as an example You wouldn't have convinced me at all Especially look at always beneath it al w aze Also, how do you it's kind of hard to spot that he's definitely written out shins on the end there It just looks like s maybe h and then Yeah Facts with what we find out later since dyslexia has been called a neurological disorder This isn't dyslexia though No Also, we get put into arthur's shoes by missing the punchline since arthur would know it anyway He's trying to learn how to be a comic the same way you would learn to drive a car by watching formula one Or maybe a local drag race, but still and arthur even applies that observational humor to his own life I was hoping you'd come in and rob the place I mentioned the unreliable near he's trying to learn how to write comedy like trying to The idea that you could learn how to better write jokes by going to stand up makes a lot more sense than learning how to drive By going to watch formula one Yeah, I would I think that is yeah, I do think that's a better comparison Yeah, well, it's he literally wants to be a stand-up comedian. He doesn't want to be If I wanted to drive I don't watch lewis hamilton or ever and If you wanted to drive an f1 If you knew how to drive well and you wanted to learn how to become a formula one driver I could see it would make a lot of sense going to formula one. Then you would watch these people Yeah, but I think it's reasonable to have more sense. Yeah, that if you want to be a comic you would watch stand-up comics Timing delivery pacing reading the room inspiration Yeah Observations on that notebook, isn't he like I can't remember the arthur. I know he does Really that confident and deering smile is such a huge tell anytime you like what you're seeing assume You're only seeing what arthur wants you to see It's the logic that he's telling the story to that girl at the end of the film That's one of the many different ways people format how this film is running sort of thing To mention agreeing to that after confronting him about stalking her Oh Man something that should have us worried for arthur is actually terrifying when you remember that it's coming from the joker I'll admit here it is It's terrifying when it's coming from the joker I mean it's not coming from the joker This is the thing like for for our pov This is just this is a almost tragic moment because we're like, oh, no He's gonna attract the ire of these three when it's a condition he has Like I don't know about I'm not really thinking about the joker in this moment or anything Yeah, he's definitely isn't he's not joker yet No, this is this is what precipitates the turn but not the first bit Scene started I was literally thinking come on. We get it. He's having a rough life. You don't need to oh Never mind. We also don't see our oh, so that makes it his rough life not go away Then I murdered these people and I think it just wasn't a rough life Is he saying that he's tired of the scenes of people beating on him and then he was like, oh, that's not this scene Yeah, I think so I think he was just play he was imagining this playing out It's just he's gonna get a kick in and he's gonna go home even sadder So the fact that it turns out into this this kind of orgy of murder Yeah, just completely like changes the entire point of the scene Um, I just want to dress quickly you guys are incorrect when it comes to dyslexia It's very common for people with dyslexia to write letters backwards Like pb or d so what we pointed out was that that's what cinema wins pointed out and that that's not what was happening on the page Yeah, the page if you were going to convince us that he has dyslexia He might but that is not a good representation of it on the paper that was shown as the example Yeah Yeah, I don't know. I don't know why that got mixed, but uh, that's what we were trying to say Gun adding to the unreliable narrator and the snapping factor of these murders Not to mention Arthur's gun is a smith and westerner model 36 a 38 special Which is a revolver that holds five rounds one two three four five six seven eight I don't what if you were what if he reloaded between the times we saw him He could have thought I highly doubt it Absolutely. That's why nobody takes into consideration. It's just funny that he actually it is possible that he could have done it I mean, how much time does he have when that guy He waits for the doors to start to close before he gets out of the train to try and like lose him So could he have reloaded during that? Well, it's just like whenever we have a shot of the guy running away or banging on the thing It's like joker could be reloading it right now Yeah I mean, I imagine it's kind of a slow post this reloading a revolver Yeah, this one is a capacity of five, but this is a It's not it's a chief special Um Either way, he shoots too many times. Mm-hmm. I'm fine with that. Yeah Yeah, but the dude's fucked anyway, and even if he couldn't finish him off without the pistol It's very clear that he is okay with using more barbaric Methods to kill people Well, this is this is what we're highlighting the effect of him having bonus bullets doesn't really change much of anything Uh, but it's still I would have preferred it be accurate to the amount in the gun for sure I think this guy is reloading Some people felt the dancing was just quirkiness to be weird But the dancing is a pretty big part of a lot of people saying there's absolutely no way you're gonna reloaded it Yes, there is it's a fucking movie. We're using montage logic. He absolutely could have reloaded it It's a revolver. He couldn't have it's not like we've never seen a revolver reloaded on a movie before Yes, we're not saying it's impossible. He couldn't have done it. I'm saying they never show it and They never show him reloading it Yeah, that would be my issue is you need to show it Yeah Like as as the last guy's escaping you show him fiddling with bullets for a second You cut away you cut back and he's holding the gun ready again. We'd just be like, oh, I guess he did reload it Okay But uh, I refuse to agree that it's impossible for him to have done it in the montage that we saw especially because that's How film works is certain amounts of time can pass between each shot I don't think it's impossible, but I I don't think he did reload. I I do Yeah, neither do I I think it's a mistake. This guy this guy has a negligent discharge The second the first time he basically pulls it out and we see him with it so He's not he's not a he's not a gun guy Uh Highly stressful situation like this he's pumped up on it doesn't take anything away from the film It's not an error which takes anything away But this is what we have to talk about because the flaw is actually so that's yeah That's what I mean. There's so little to rip into this film before it's like right then this would be the one And again, I agree as a flaw. They shouldn't uh, it's it's unfortunate, but there we are It takes roughly five seconds to put five rounds in a revolver I'm sure that works out great for you I'm certain. Well, yeah, even I would be like well, it's gonna depend on the person shortly Yeah, I uh, also speed reloaders, but he's not gonna have that It wouldn't take me five seconds. I'll tell you that for now. Yeah, you are not gonna know not him See because five seconds may not even know how to reload it. Okay. He knows how to reload it. He knows how to load it Come on now We keep bouncing between extremes It's just like look there wasn't enough time from what we saw that he could have loaded it. Is it impossible? No, but it's way too unlikely to not have shown it definitely unlikely Because he reloaded it because he shot the bullet in his apartment. So he would have reloaded that Maybe he trained with Jerry McCuffin Ah All right, let's draw it back a little bit two three four five Six seven eight I don't think this guy is reloading Some people felt the dancing was just quirkiness to be weird But the dancing is a pretty big part of Arthur and his connection to his own reality He dances freely as a clown because he can and he wants to he also believes He's a great dancer and when he's feeling powerful playing with his new gun coming up with jokes He thinks they're funny murdering three people. He almost can't stop the dance Yeah, that's good. Yeah Oh, I feel like that music might take us down now. Who knows? Oh boy now his own personal dance music drowns out the world He's slipping the fantasy You could even look at the dancing as the start of the veneer of reality feeling back for Arthur Is that part of your new life Arthur? If your dancing doesn't end the trick You're just gonna shoot yourself more clairvoyance when the guy was singing That his name was carnival Which is crazy because that's my clown name work Which could be evidence that the story is an embellishment at best Even I didn't know if I really existed Is it? Oh, I have a negative thought Trailers destroy good lines make them gone and then memes reduce them to atoms still a line still a meme Uh Is that a Is that a meme? No, I like, you know, I'm not I'm not like the the biggest meme on the planet, but uh, I've seen it around But I've never felt like it was super overused I've seen the staircase one way more than that one Yeah, I've never I don't think I've actually seen the negative thoughts mean so Yeah, so there are some uh That all I have are negative thoughts. Yeah, it does seem to be a meme. I've just never seen it before Oh, I know it's a meme, but I don't think it was destroyed that scene or anything. All right Eek John Wayne Gacy reference still think Arthur's an anti hero John Wayne Gacy reference good job everybody. You know that thing that John Wayne Gacy used the clown name And he's suggesting that they're referencing it to show that Arthur is Not a hero not an anti-hero hero, but a villain I'm guessing Those memes though That's relatable in the worst way you open your mouth to speak and your vocal courses don't work We get to breathe before speaking So what if he didn't reload after his apartment then that five before he leaves the train and if he reloads during walking He would five new no if he didn't So what's really weird? So that doesn't make sense. Um He would if he didn't if assuming the cylinder was full of the five shots He has his discharge in his apartment Um, that would mean he has four left But surely he would reload it and in his home like surely I guess domino is pretty lucky if she can make the crowd laugh again feeling powerful after his date so more dancing Yeah, it's good consistency We cut right past the initial confrontation another jarring smack to the senses Thomas Wayne's back stories vary from version to version But for this world to have the general public seem to embrace him as the beacon he often is But of course in joker's version of events. He's just plain evil the subtext of I mean Just plain evil if he's so a bit of a stretch by the logic of everything we see is joker's perspective Then we have all the pieces we need to conclude that wane is pure evil. I'd be like I don't think so At worst he's he's dismissive and he's kind of arrogant kind of a dick kind of Not even Yeah, I I think it's a stretch to call him evil The joker creating batman this time even foreshadowing their future meetings with the bars between them you stretch enough clowns You stretch enough clown shoes you could choke the life out of just about anybody, okay Each step along arthur's transformation We get moments where he peeks his head above his previous limitations Each new level of confidence coincides with an event the murders learning the truth about his mom and the Of his supposed stepbrother. I also think he stopped his meds and they're leaving a system slowly It's left open ended after he has to stop his meds. He can't get him from anywhere Yeah, he says where am I supposed to get them from she says sorry. I think that's pretty definitive that he's not getting them Yeah It doesn't he and he says he stopped taking his meds to Gary and randall. Well, he's saying we don't know when specifically he stopped, which yeah, sure Even the doors hate the poor in this society Exit only That's kind of fucked up Not everything subtle Not everything is subtle It's just an exit only side the point is he's not paying attention a bit I don't know Is there a deeper read of that scene that the society doesn't see him because he's poor even though it's perfectly rational Like there's clearly a rule that it's an exit only and arthur wants to break that rule and he gets resistance Oh, I get it. He has to follow the rules Are you see supposed to follow the rules? But he doesn't follow the rule and it's a little tough at the beginning when he eats the door But then it opens the door someone comes out. Yeah He uses somebody else and he slips it this it's foreshadowing It's almost like it could be proof. He's dyslexic dyslexic people can read It says exit Maybe there's a kind of dyslexia where you maybe misread exit as It's uh exit. Yeah, only Tixie Instance to suggest he's breaking free from his fantasy right there. Everyone laughed at me. Well, no one's laughing now You can say that again pal of all the terrible things that happened to arthur. That's number one the worst I think he's finding out the truth about his mother. Yeah You probably I think like Eh You you were a tortured child adopted possibly by someone who is trying to convince everybody that they were With a person who is really powerful and ditched you all or that is actually true And it did happen either way your mother screwed your whole life over. It's like great Versus a guy you like on tv is laughing at you. I don't know. I feel like they're significant both of them But I don't think that one's the the bigger one He just repeated his punchline and got a laugh as if arthur's intent wasn't precisely that self-deprecation style humor They laughed at Murray's joke Well, I think I mean wins if I can call him that is technically on point here to a degree arthur's joke Is that uh, this joke will not be funny. So if no one laughs at it, it's worked because it said like Everyone's gonna laugh for you. No one's laughing now And so you know what I mean like it's but but then Murray like an ironic way Well, that's the thing right? It's about the this is why I think Murray's works because Murray's got an audience That's totally on board with him anyway. And so he's like, yeah, you're right Yeah, and I guess it's meant to be the delivery of it as well like arthur is very still eating awkward and Yeah, it doesn't work for him. But Murray's like smooth and relaxed and confident and he can make it work Yes, delivery especially especially after you gotta consider it's consider that that minute or whatever of him like awkwardly laughing Before he started his set you'd be like, oh While Murray is just probably had like a really good show up to that point and people totally on board like it makes sense to me that uh Murray despite technically almost repeating the joke is getting a laugh where he didn't Was perfect, but he would have gotten a chuckle. Sometimes the taxi driver nods are quick and subtle Other times with someone assigned. Wait, did I miss the taxi driver reference? Sorry. Let's let's roll that back Nicely that self deprecation style humor. Look the delivery wasn't perfect, but he would have gotten a chuckle sometimes the taxi We are all clowns. We what's the reference? We are the people versus we are all clowns Yeah, we're all clowns. I don't know if you want to call that a taxi driver reference Okay, what film isn't taxi driver at this point I just I feel like riots and protests with all kinds of signs. You probably connect a lot to a lot Yeah, I don't think this is a nod to taxi driver. This well, even if it were signs. It's fine Yeah, it's fine. If it was I just don't think it is Also holding a gun to your head and pretending to shoot it. Taxi driver doesn't fucking own that. Okay Yeah, that's that's definitely attack. This is the thing man Like I am sure that there are aesthetic similarities and you pulled some qualities from taxi driver But point they kind of like this can't be it Molo, that's the Stowell's reference. The side almost says Palpatine So true exit only Not exactly a match cut but a fun transition nonetheless Settling scene either way But first particular neurological disorders crave confinement like a security blanket You could also say Arthur went into his cocoon and joked that he has Not sure how since that looks like one of those locked from the outside bridges fun fact No, maybe not. Oh, I guess he said looks like so he's safe But um, we did talk about this before because someone else brought up but The law for the Fridge safety or whatever had passed by the time this movie is set. So we're all good on that department Or at least there is room to believe it was a fridge. He could escape from the inside. You're fine. We're fine Okay, everyone calm down. Jesus From this creepy silent screaming scene, John cash in is also an Arkham inmate on Gotham the show Okay, yikes, just breezing over the lobotomy there She had a lobotomy, yeah That makes you really put into question how much you can trust from her doesn't it? But then again, what if it was faked? What if she's actually okay Things are falling into place and now as it starts to unravel We get to see Arthur remembering the one real thing that happened between him and Sophie. Is that a J? Uh, I don't really sure. Uh, sure. Yeah Yeah And the horror strings slowly lead us to confirm what we've been suspecting for a while Since we're already talking about the score, how about the shining horns marking Arthur's exit? Pain and terror mixed into an uncontrollable maniacal laugh Almost like Arthur has no control Taxi shining This just in only Joaquin is up to the task of this thorough impersonation knock knock The saddest part is that I believe Arthur thinks he'd get a laugh from that punchline. Yeah, you know um It's uh, there's a couple of moments in that scene with the the audience's reactions are telling for uh, what he thinks will happen Sometimes it's hard to keep your brain from thinking. Oh, that was the first to lose When you consider that Arthur vindictively wants to play the part that Murray created for him as the failed comic joker And he's ready to take credit for the murders He needs to embrace the persona of the murderer who had that green hairpiece. It makes sense What's with the makeup? Yeah, I'm fine with that. No I don't think so because it was uh, I think he made the decision to confess when he's actually sat down And I think it was premeditated. I don't know. I think there's room that he was gonna kill himself after Announcing that. I don't know. Well, I'd have to look at the scene again. You might be right, but um the idea that he's gonna own the title of joker and then own the the The clown makeup and stuff like to me it follows through whether or not he's gonna Do it because that's the persona of the killer for those people on the subway and he's about to own those murders Yeah, that's I'm not sure about it. I'd have to rewatch Um Evan says that uh, he wasn't going to confess. He was just gonna tell the joke and kill himself But yeah, go maybe you're right on that. I'd have to rewatch it My mom died Celebrating Creepiest stance and look ever. Thank you Thank you so much. I just want to google. I suppose Suppose Yeah Okay, intense moment that's perfectly joker. Every other murderer would be worrying about gary talking considering killing him So we're freaked out that the chain lock was a ploy just to mess with gary, but he's full joker now He likes gary and he only kills awful people. Nothing else matters All right, that's a good scene and now the stairs that were a sense of again I hate to do it, but like if I've got nothing to if I just agree with him. I'm just like, okay Yeah When gary couldn't get out the apartment And then he went to the door and he opened it then he shut it again. I thought oh no now. He's gonna kill gary. Yeah And then he just then he opened it back up and let him out It's a brilliant way to play with your expectations that scene Hmm You and they have no clue what he's gonna do like it could go it either way Yeah, yeah, absolutely I'm up are a breeze to dance down as he fully embodies his new skin dancing not in private Not for work, but because it's part of who he is At least he got the up down Yeah, he's the up down part of it. Fuck it now No, it's sin for every stair and inside Arthur's head and his assistant on the track is cheering him on The dirty handrails Pull back we get to hear and feel what's really going on It's not triumphant. It's tragic and it's not a perfect match But the track seems to be at least based on a slowed-down version of gary glitter's hay song I'm gonna keep bringing this up But I really like the idea that arthur is just living out of fantasy at this point He's lost his grasp on what's real and even if everything that's happening is 100 real all his fear is gone because he sees Himself as the architect of his own reality and truly has nothing to lose No remorse. No guilt. It's funny to him and he's cool with that now But not as cool as you'll be when I seamlessly segue to how you can see part two right now before it's up on youtube tomorrow You just need to slow mo dates your nebula That's how they get you That's how they get you get on that nebula folks play on over to today's sponsor curiosity stream Who has partnered with my new streaming service nebula where bull is new streaming service really? 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Thank god It's a gun that would have had a heart attack and died So you can accidentally flash a tit on stream and not be banned, but if you say Retard then you're gonna lose your account. Well one is hate speech one is porn, so it's fine And apparently this guy has said he once got hosted for 4 000 viewers Did a minor booty shake and got suspended within 45 minutes or seven days? A booty shake? Oh Well, maybe you should have been a fucking thought streamer rbk arab at your fellow arab Get with the program you were born the wrong gender. It's get over it so um Have people been banned for this sort of thing before she getting i'm guessing she's gonna get special treatment That's gonna be the drama. Oh she'll get she'll get special treatment Of course like we've seen this before Nothing will happen. They won't do a thing No, you'll just you'll just claim it the wardrobe malfunction. I didn't mean to do it. Uh twitch has their darlings All right then on to part two you've been warned Sorry, there's just too much too many white guys today, so Oh, not this again Well, let's get this right out of the way. I know I know but That's bad guy Bucking just knows how to play the game look at his whole demeanor now the way he walks the with the strut the confidence It's not hunched. He's not limping It's complete demeanor change. It's very good and to me those aren't tears of torment They're tears of self-realization of his dreams coming true Hey, hey, mr. Franklin. Oh come on glow is good. So our comic book movies I don't know what glow is. I'm assuming it's a reference to Was not Gorgeous ladies are wrestling. Yeah, that guy was one of the main actors in glow. All right Is it is it controversial to say glow is good or? Uh Yeah I haven't seen I haven't seen anything past season one, but I did I did enjoy season They kind of ran out of stories and it just felt like random shit happening in season two So Pretty meandering Oh, wow patrick williams put out a tweet saying that uh infinity war Is oh well end game is much better than infinity war on every level Oh I disagree For reasons or what it just he says it's crazy that anyone would debate this Oh, wow Is this is this trolling or what? I mean, yeah, it's gonna be that's just because this is the thing Anything you could name from end game. I feel like infimity will probably did better Um, I'm trying to think of I guess like an epic grand scale battle. It's like was it better at end game? It was like, oh, I guess so you got that well captain captain marvel getting her ass knocked out. That was Yeah, you don't get that. I'm sure Yeah, Thanos was no it's Thanos was nowhere near as No, definitely not Uh, well patrick just he just turned a generic bad guy for For end game make the video patrick will cover it Oh, yes, patrick, please explain to me why Thanos in end game is better than Thanos in infinity war I would love to see that video when he's like, please make it you're destroying my plans I'm gonna reduce the entire universe to atoms. You're like, oh That's not as interesting I'm gonna destroy the universe like all the other bad villains no one will remember We had creepiest now witnessed most sinister and foreboding There's the moment he decided to just die wouldn't make him matter But maybe taking Murray out with him would ever since I Killed us the wall street guy and our kings of comedy homage and why Kings of comedy. Oh, does it mean king of comedy or am I am I missing something with that? Three wall street guys not triggering memories Is because Pip can kill anybody I feel like I'm missing a key element of that reference. I'm like, I feel blind on it I'm just gonna let it go Um Yeah, chat help help me out. I don't quite remember this part and I really like king of comedy, but I don't quite get the reference I'm just I was running by one more time if anyone anyone here can spot Matter, but me yes, we get it with him Ever since I killed us the wall street guy And I think you ever intended to kill my until Things changed here. Yeah I Don't see how that's a king of comedy homage Okay, we're not the only ones who aren't following good Is the on is the on air confession? He's wrong. That's what he means But in king of comedy he technically admits to it, but he plays it off as a joke and no one thinks that it's real Yeah But in this he definitely he admits it and wants everyone to know that it isn't a joke It is real. He's specifically Joker specifically says it's not a joke There's no joke Well, you guys still think that in-game have different than us Well, they definitively have different than us is yeah, it's literally whether or not it's justified as a whole different conversation. I I I think there's an argument to be had but which one is more compelling Joker is real Yeah, I have no idea what they are referring to by a king of comedy kings of king of comedy homage Yeah, I'm lost on that one I like this movie up until Joker goes on the Murray show, but it was so much until It was mostly those flashback scenes in the killing joke and without cutting back to Joker Didn't feel like Joker and now that he's fully detached from reality. Arthur feels like the Joker What I love is not that he kills Murray or even his speech It's that Arthur's fantasy Arthur's version of reality Which up until this point was not reality takes over and it's as if he entirely Believes he's inside of fantasy and it's released him from his tics stutters and condition You think that killing those guys is he doesn't think that he's a fantasy here though No, I'm yeah, I'm not following that entirely No, he knows this is real Yeah, he absolutely knows this is real This is if anything this is like the most real moment in the film for him Yeah, he came to kill himself This all been leading up to this This is what I mean like this is the climax for everything A lot of this feels like I've I've got a Re-re-listen and then be like where are you? Where's where have you drawn this from? I feel like I should have been following it better if he's been running this throughout but This whole like what Joker perceives as real or not seems to fluctuate in this video and I'm not quite grasping it, you know At least according to uh winds I do and I'm tired of pretending it's not They couldn't carry a tune to save their lives. Okay. Now that's the joker I mean buster bluth joker bluth folks are juice and take it like good little boys That we won't werewolves and go wild I might even venture to say this final outrage speech is a reversion of sorts Which is why it's a bit childish back to before he'd started to try to fit into society a time before his condition I'll tell you what you get all the police. Get what you deserve All right Okay, okay He bled the f word, but you showed someone getting shot And you censored the blood on the wall. He bled the blood on the wall, but he left the shot to the fucking head Why would Why would you sense if you're gonna censor one of those you censor the fucking head Why did you do that? He's got to be fucking I feel like I'm being fucked with yeah It's not gonna be a joke. It's not gonna be a joke, surely Why would you say if he said to the fern I would have fucking died laughing if he said to that fucking fern He censored the the splat but not the actual wound Can somebody please censor everything but Murray's head This is the kid friendly vision where you only see the wound What I'm picturing someone like being stabbed in the chest little blood is seeping out, but the moment it seeps out it blurs People are saying gadelb, what do I even get down for this? How does that even work? I have to do the exact same thing I suppose It'd be like japanese poid where you blur out the seaman but not the dick Have a censor Wardig I guess And blur everything on screen except the violence What a what a creative choice I love it I like I like the way Joker looks like a little 2d pixel art joke That caught me so off guard the fact Oh Let's see it again You can see the whole thing except the red on the wall now looks a little blurry Look at that. Oh my god How do you this has to be a joke look at that His blood offends the deco they got a fucking That's it That's the line that a million articles tiptoed around while claiming this was gonna incite the incels and holy cow Is that not what's happening here at best or worst? I don't know it's a mentally ill man ready to die to be seen killing a man who wronged him at worst or best It's a condemnation of the upper class the powerful class billionaires and career politicians lack of social safety nets Or even on a micro level a guy like wane punching a mentally ill man in the nose rather than even listen to his story He did listen to his story Yeah, that's why he punched him in the fucking nose In fact, wane was pretty patient in this scene He heard him out even tried to explain to him the situation and when the guy lost his mind started laughing like a crazy person Because obviously wane doesn't know his condition He was just like you think this is funny? Punches him and then almost as if the film knew what ralf and whoever else we're gonna say as he walks away He says come near my son again, and I'll kill you Because it's supposed to tell you his mindset right there Yeah, he did hear him out. He gave him quite a bit of time actually Let alone help him or his ex family employee penny If he saw this place it would make him by the way if in that bathroom If once wane said oh wait, you're the guy who you know, was at the gate yesterday If he didn't if he immediately punched him after that, he'd still be justified. Yeah, I still make sense You choked my butler and you fucked around with my son Like i'm not even gonna hear your story. You're a crazy person Yeah, thomas wane was probably more reason than I think Out of my son's mouth like you you really crossed a line with that one Hmm, he's got to go back to his twilight telescope The one said jay is talking to no bullshit right now like on street It's not hilarious Jay and no bullshit Oh is it on twitter Also, what is the context of that chat inform me inform me? I'm waiting for it. Come on on chat. You can do it Come on james Somebody just j. All right something JJ JJ. Hmm on stream. Look on twitter. It is on stream On j stream or Wait, it's not like streaming on twitter, right? That's not a thing as far as I know Ifap are now watching chat how the tables have turned There's no is no bullshit streaming chat roulette. What? Why how who wait what the debating who's gayer Jay isn't it Nicholas De Oreo Oh wait, let me try that through here. I should be able to find it. Very curious What the hell Destiny some black guy ricky burwick. No bullshit. Jay axie turkey tom. I mean Who is oh, he's Nazi like I've never admitted to you wish you wish All right, we'll have to check that out some other time. Oh, it's apparently internet blood sports as well So that's probably gonna be Oh, wow, I can't wait to not watch it. I was gonna say we'll we'll check back with jay once he's um Sure, jay can tell us all about it. Yeah We're busy ripping into cinema whins and his his his dingle bells Yeah, that's what we're making. I'm not sure how anyone can walk away thinking arthur or the riots He's inspired our alt right and not just a violent occupy movement. What am I missing? Yeah, I know right that ultimately arthur truly isn't political and anything he started was completely accidental But if you have to pin him on one side, it's not the white supremacist side Oh Yeah, it's weird that they would try and it's it's almost like everything that we don't want to like or shouldn't like is alt right or something Yeah, yeah There's no race component of this in the movie. I can't think of a single. Oh, yeah, that's right Uh, he joker calls the one guy brother That makes him a white supremacist. I totally forgot. I forgot He doesn't have a single position in line with them and the riots are not divided on racial lines at all They're divided on class lines. He's mad at the elite again Even that's a stretch because he's just the joker now chaos is his mo It's terrible But he's actually allowing himself to laugh this time because even though he thought killing the free wall street guys was funny Society told him he shouldn't laugh, but it's all out in the open now another parallel from earlier free on the bus Depressed in cops in the back of a cop car. That's a good Beautiful hand actually even more parallels no matter how much he planned He never knew what to do with the gun after the joke again that this joker origin is just a nothing. That's a good I never never noticed that I did I just I noticed the clumsiness Yeah Didn't know what to do next he'd done Something he didn't actually plan Guy living out his last day that turns into forever is really compelling He had nothing to lose because he was ready to die But then thought maybe one more joke, but then he didn't die So he still got nothing to lose so why not keep going? He's free so free that he doesn't even try to escape being arrested at this point again If arthur has any ideology it's that he believes no one sees him That's why this moment is so important to him the reason he tears that ideology Yeah, I was gonna say I was waiting for more Yeah, I would call an ideology So a fantastic reason to continue down the joker path kills three guys gets articles written about him starts a movement Kills a talk show host got them burns and his new henchmen rescue him from the cops And using the blood from his rebirth car crash to form the joker smile sometimes on the nose is just what you need And regardless of how icky you might feel it's a moment he's been practicing for Whether this laughter is his condition or not he's embracing it now The outbursts were always when he was afraid or stressed and now he's trapped looking at his perpetual last day He can just lean into it and let it happen rather than fighting it Almost like he can let the laughter guide how he should feel rather than feeling conflicted. What's so funny? It's somewhat ambiguous He could just be thinking about how funny it is that he inspired the murder of ruse's parents Or at least he thinks he did since he didn't actually see this happen And if he's clairvoyant enough, you wouldn't necessarily need to see it happen if you'd heard about it If he's clairvoyant enough he could no that's not a thing Um, that's not a thing Yeah, but off that He would probably hear about it. That's a big that's gonna be The two on on the same night Murray is killed live and a protester kills thomas wane Those are going to be the big events that everyone's going to be talking about for forever. Yes Enough could realize he inspired batman or maybe the entire movie is the joke Maybe he's a seasoned joker who's gone up against batman a million times And this is just the fantasy version of his rise to power that's capped off. That feels like a big old rich arouni Yeah, you're pulling that out of the ether By him being the reason bruce's parents are dead and none of it happened He's just an arkham plotting his next escape literally making his therapist drop her guard So he can get the jump on her and kill her and escape not to mention the commentary on the state of mental health treatment Where he's just been passed off to another caretaker that wouldn't even know to ask about his condition Because we don't know that yet. They don't give a shit about people like you Arthur And we know so little about people like me either. I like the sense of it I have to show a guy getting shot through the head I feel like they would have pulled up this guy's file and they would know that he was in a mental institution Or this is him in there now or he was there like they would know I mean, I don't see how they wouldn't have records So Yeah, booby was a story joker just told the therapist in order to make us the audience feel sorry for him when he's just a bad Dude, or we could try to connect some dots when someone says you wouldn't get it people often respond try me And then he specifically sings the stomping on a dream line from Murray Sinatra theme song called that's life And then has bloody footprints the joke being that he brought the song to life again His style of humor is pretty dry. Well, no one's laughing now That's life and now you're dead. The real fun is that it's left up to you because making any definitive statement about the joker is seemingly impossible I already covered it. I mean, I think there's I've he definitely killed Murray I think I think some of the things in this film absolutely do occur I just don't I don't think it's worthwhile being like, uh, it's all it's all up there. Who the fuck knows? He's like, oh, but that's hmm We're just gonna pick and choose random things that we think did and didn't have I don't know I just Makes more sense to me that uh, you'd have to have a reason to assume any of the things that May have been hallucinations were hallucinations Something from the film to imply instead of just saying well, look at the way it ended. It's all hallucinations like Or imagined or falsely told But sure The idea that a movie like joker would inspire mass shootings or any kind of violence is dumb Sensationalism from people slash sites looking for clicks and quotes. It isn't supported by any of the That's In fact, the only connection. Hey, man, you can't make like half hour videos on youtube. That's not a thing They put these limits in man. It's horrible. Wow his video. Wow. Can you man? Yeah, his last one was what 12 minutes or something like that She 12 oh my that's that's like 25 minutes in total then Bloody hell Good lord That's true In violent acts because if people are at the movie theater, they're less likely to go violent Sing doesn't even matter what the movie is about movies music and video games Don't make people more violent and even beyond that Arthur doesn't kill because the system mistreated him He kills because they were awful and also Whether you think the movie makes a political statement or not Arthur isn't trying to joker isn't the incel anthem If anything if I if someone was to say rags What is the political message of the joker? I'd be Like uh, you could be rich or poor from anywhere and still be a bad person Yeah That's the way I saw it is that uh, we got bad people all over the place We have we have the downtrodden picking on and making victims of other people who are downtrodden in this film several times And so it's it's not like they're only depicting the rich being horrible in fact some of the You know having the two Wealthy people in an alleyway trying to protect their son get gunned down is not exactly a great way to portray Hey rich people are bad. It's like no It's it's a complicated affair you have to I mean you say something along the lines of how by just blaming Thomas wane does it and I mean everyone does both sides do it if you just blame another group because of their class and assume malicious intent or that intent or all their problems are because of the other group Then you're not talking with them. You're not communicating You are projecting perhaps and that just makes things worse. It just leads to things getting worse. You have to cooperate It's not you know, that's probably The the biggest thing I would pull from it if you said Pull a political message out of the joke. It's more about people than it is politics If you remove the relationships from dexter, does it become toxic? Do you truly believe arthur was driven by his lack of girlfriend? The medaness of trying to pre-blame a movie character for violent acts that haven't even been committed when the character They're trying to blame exist inside a story that clearly says arthur is mentally ill and is trying to use awful people as scapegoats When the truth is that he just thinks it's funny statistically It's actually the media around pieces of art like this talking about it that are more likely to inspire a real I think there's some truth in the fact that arthur killed people because they were awful And because it was it impacted him and it made his life worse It wasn't just because he wanted to scapegoat it because he thought it was funny Well, I think it ties in with the the fact that he spares people that are mostly good Yeah, and it's hilarious, but he doesn't do it. Yeah. Well, it always makes me laugh Life jokers, you know reminding people of bad people the media made famous because they did bad things Stop it. It's all tragically meta and frustrating and I refuse to play into it any more than I already have by acknowledging it I mean you could have just not acknowledged it I'm just saying Just saying Well, you're not going to be able to stop the machine by pointing out the machine pretty much at all I don't know Sensationalizing all things is pretty much just the the climate we're in. I don't see that stopping for a long time Yeah, but I think that it's fine of him saying that these things that they are saying they're ridiculous Don't listen to them. I I seriously doubt that does more harm than good Well, I'm not commenting on whether or not does I think it's fine to talk about it. He's just like Arguing that there's a chance. He's adding to it by talking about it. Oh, yeah, he's not. I think he's taking it away Yeah, which is good thing. Let's go. What I was saying is if he feels that way He could have just not spoken about it at all and been one of the bigger influences Who doesn't even mention that side of the film because that's not the film But uh, you know, it's fine do whatever you want Or and it's also not the same without Joaquin any unevenness in his performance Or to what level his illness affects him are easily explained by the unreliable narrator And it's also tricky because as his story unravels he grows and that feels lazy to me in that kind of in that sensation I don't think that it's necessarily negative Or positive, but to just say that any potential problems Can be solved by saying unreliable narrator Yeah, I don't think we need that Yeah, the idea that he's more lucid in some scenes than others You could easily just point to whatever's happening currently and see what things match up Or why he would be behaving in certain ways like when he's talking to her for the first time He's like calm smiling. He makes a pretty good joke as well uh It's all fantasy at that point. So of course he's uh able to purport himself. Well, it's not actually happening I don't know what she says something like uh She mentions like going to kill someone or something and then he's like well I have a gun which we know is true, but she doesn't so it comes across as funny Uh, that was robbing the bank She said um, will you follow me and stuff? and uh, who's like Yeah, and then she said well, I was kind of hoping you come inside and rob the bank He's like, well, I've got a gun. I could always come back tomorrow And then she left And I think what he was trying to say because he showed a clip from that was like, oh, he's Not as unhinged in that moment. He's not a socially awkward So would that be considered an inconsistency that could be explained by an unreliable narrative? And I just be like, oh, I mean it's that point is That's what I mean. It's it's like, why would we need that? It's a fantasy So it would be whatever in his mind. He he feels he can perform as hmm Proof in the strings keeping him tethered to our reality break Joker is a lot about the difference between how the world sees Arthur and how Arthur sees Arthur Arthur lives inside fantasy land. It's the only time he gets to be happy Almost all of his interactions with real people are awful. Even his mother Sophie is the one exception And that's just because she didn't immediately recoil. So he built her into his fantasy His life slowly becomes more and more mythic Newspapers are writing about him at the same time for unrelated reasons. He's invited on the Murray show And after murdering Murray, he's essentially worshiped by people who think he has a plan You say that like it's a coincidence, but it's like it's all it all lines up It all comes back to the fact that he wants to be Involved in comedy clowning and making people happy like both the The pursuit of stand-up and the career as a as a clown Both of them are informed by that and they're they're the both the plot lines that lead to each other joining at the end Because the the getting fired plot line leads to him killing the three guys in the subway While simultaneously the failed comedian plot line leads to him going on Murray's show So But they're both representative of his goal, which is to make people laugh to make people smile because that's what he was told to do Plan he doesn't he was just following a dust bunny along the sidewalk when fantasy took over his life And of course he's going to embrace that the idea that the movement and infamy of the Joker was just a mentally ill man Getting revenge because he was mocked the get what you deserve line wasn't meant to some profound statement It was a dark joke. You did it again. I sort of look at Joker as the middle I guess it really wasn't a mistake It was a dark joke I sort of look at Joker as the middle of the road between pretty good period drama and well-crafted comic book movie That breaks the mold Logan in some ways, but maybe not as fully realized as Logan I don't think Joker has a ton to say it would rather present some ideas about mental illness and class warfare and show Potential outcome not every movie has to pick a side. So I think it works here My biggest complaint other than the occasional hammer to the face one liner Is the reliance on story beats and homages to taxi driver that became distracting at sometimes Arthur may have seen it five years earlier and was just imitating Travis bickle Wow How was he imitating him? Well, I mean if everyone sees it it's got to be the Practicing because protesters hold up signs in this so that's Imaginary assailants he needs to shoot So there was no assailant in this fantasy Someone was asking him how he's such a good dancer and he decides to shoot them. It's the opposite of an assailant. Yeah He he doesn't need to shoot. He accidentally shoots. He didn't mean to It was a negligent discharge He assumed the gun wasn't loaded. He certainly regrets it immediately. He's like, oh fuck. Yeah Drop the gun jumps around the other side of the Table also practicing lines again with the broad. It's like so he's like talking to himself And he writes comedy lines versus Travis in front of a mirror Practicing actual lines like I'm just like The hair change at the end So Travis shaves into a like a mohawk and he dies at green See what I mean by broad Just like Nick they do something their hair changes in some way He get the way he gets a gun It's all the same at all. Travis buys one from like a cellar while Uh, he gets given one by a friend who's not actually being friendly with him There's a crags most normies aren't gun nuts. That doesn't excuse getting your info wrong Now besides even if you if you didn't know anything about guns you'd still want to get the imaginary assailants part Right or at least you should Like that part was just wrong There wasn't there wasn't any imaginary assailants in this part of the film And he doesn't need to shoot them shoot the early taste for killing that feels justified the hair The early taste for killing that feels justified If he had it Who's the first person travis kills in taxi driver? Isn't it no no one until the end? Or am I misremembering that? No, he kills the guy on no Because I was at the end too um He tried to kill unless he's referring to his time in vietnam Yeah, but I don't that didn't give him a taste for killing did it? I don't I don't really remember that being something of a Point it was a oh he kills the robber in the store. That's true Yeah, that's it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah I don't know that that But like again seeing what he kills that guy and you can tell he's very like almost disturbed by it in the shop And awkwardly leaves while joker like immediately wants to hunt down that third guy and kill the shit out of him I just don't yeah, he's eventual. He is um and also if I'm saying if he had a taste for killing That feels justified So but he doesn't go down to hunt anybody Like even when he goes to murray the show he intends to kill himself He doesn't like it when randall show he kills randall when randall shows up He doesn't go to kill randall while while travis is going to kill the uh The pinner palpatine Oh, yeah, palpatine. There was no intention to kill randall randall was part of the plan. No another joker phrase Uh, he just happened he's just happened stance came by gary And because he had betrayed him and because he realized he was coming round to see Whether or not, you know the story synced about the gun because he was only concerned about the gun. He wasn't concerned about Arthur and he just saw it as an opportunity to um To to kill it and another awful person And I guess he so I guess with his with his mom right But that's retaliation for his mom ruining his life essentially His mom was an awful person the abuse that he suffered the fact that she wasn't his mother She was actually adopted Because he certainly believed that what so what did senator palpatine do to travis bickle? Jewish Jewish that's the thing. He's just poured his sense of lack of purpose into Deciding to make a move in killing palpatine. So it'd be I like calling palpatine. I know it's palatine. I just like palpatine I know it's palatine. I call him palpatine Um Yeah, well, this is this is kind of gets to the the root of all of this the every single time anyone compares these two movies They are broad as fuck and it's always like We could do this with mostly every movie ever you can get nice and broad And of all the all of all the comparisons king of comedy is the closest but that's still not saying much It is still quite broad No, but when you say it's king of comedy and taxi driver and uh, what's the All the other ones put together right returns. Also, uh, you were never really here also falling down Also Killing joke as well. Yeah. Yeah, if something is a combination of five other things Uh, it's basically its own thing at this point. I feel Well, that's what everyone is this kind of a statement on art all art is iterative Like it all comes from somewhere everyone whenever you do anything in art. You're like, oh, this is kind of This is this and it all evolves Is it we only there's also a showcase? Thor comics with an alternate joker who isn't affected By the chemicals and actually does paint paint his face and you know make up himself up And as Evan In Evan Monroe and chat says that the the you are never really here Comparisons basically made because he has a mom. He takes care of completely different characters completely different relationship Oh, yeah, the relationship is basically the opposite But whatever he takes care of his mom. So it's got the other movie Joker changing cats. I agree And the way he gets a gun empty in a magazine into a dead dude cylinder this time with a slow start and brutal ending Planning suicide, but plans go awry Sorry, so we got we got more now emptying emptying a magazine into a dead dude This is now tantamount to being the same thing. Don't have magazines stop this immediately. Do not say that Empty magazine into a dead dude It's been seen a million times. I was gonna say this is a lot of stuff a lot of stuff The slow start brutal ending Yeah, the slow start brutal ending is like again I feel like we're gonna apply this to a shit ton of films. That's not unique whatsoever planning suicide, but plans go awry Uh, so Travis pickle right he changes his plans specifically for a reason again broad versus context So Travis would have killed himself, but he ran out of ammo Uh, joker doesn't kill himself because he decides he doesn't want to Yeah Very very different a thing. Look at this a finger gun to the head Smoking gun the smoking finger Um Yeah, taxi driver invented that Stalking a campaigning politician But it wasn't because he was a politician. It's because it was his dad. Yeah completely different context again It's so frustrated like you're not paying any attention to how different Instead of looking at the differences you specifically look at where they connect and you do it and you'll get broader and broader until they finally connect So annoying A finger gun to the head stalking a campaigning politician even doing political things without having a political reason right? Doing political things without having a political reason Because I guess in taxi driver anything political Yeah, he was he was a political that was the whole thing He's an angry Guy having a rant and then he kills someone But yeah, he's starting a political party and their platform is be nice to people Blurry lines between hero and villain No, they're a nun. I don't know If anyone thinks he's a fucking hero Deliberately monotonous score homages to the killing joke are more excusable Truthfully neither has any more of a complete message than joker joker is just a bad day story Okay, how far can you push people before they snap travis had a line jim gordon has a line But we specifically travis had a line I I think of all these travis bickle's motivations are the worst explained Travis had a line his line was I guess prostitution Like kidnapping girls was Consider all of it like this gum level activities, right all the people that he sees in his uh Ride in the taxi, but I think Yeah, the uh, what's happening with the girl pushes him over the To want to happily kill them. I would suppose is what he's trying to say there also As ra just pointed out monotonous score. I'm not sure if I don't know if I'd describe it as monotonous What is the right word for for what's happening in the score? But I think I guess I see how he wanted to use that word I guess it wasn't dynamic enough for him I don't I don't even haunting The oscar winning score Okay, I don't know. I don't I don't know Arthur clearly had a line and I'm not about to pretend like joker handles its portrayal of mental illness. Well at all How does it not is it is do you have to portray mental illness? Does it have to be a certain way to be done correctly? I'm confused. He said sadly. That's not a joker problem It's a comic book problem How tell me what what the correct way is to portray mental illness the incredible vast complexity That is mental illness. Tell me what the correct way to portray that is Yeah, I feel like you got to be careful when like because what they accidentally do as well some Uh critics will be like this is a bad portrayal of this mental illness And then someone with that mental illness be like this is one to one what it's like and then they'll be like, oh well No But his mental illness is not even determined. Just know that he is mentally ill He is on seven non-descript medications I'm curious what his problem actually is because he's just said it's It's not handled well Paranoid Yeah, at all. Yeah I think they purposely keep it vague though because Did he suffer trauma when he was beaten when he was tied to the radiator and all this kind of stuff It's it's left broad because it doesn't want To commit to a specific mental illness so people can Start doing the whole well. This isn't a you know portrayal of this in that way He's mentally ill. He's the fucking I don't see how this film does anything except make you empathize with people who have mental illnesses I'm curious because he's got a comma. So maybe he's gonna Provide uh more detail a comic book problem So I didn't expect them to reinvent the wheel every joker from niggleson to ledger to leto all had some form of mental illness But we are cool with a billionaire in a batsuit punching them in the face really hard And then sending them to an asane asylum slash prison where they receive no help because comics Okay, wow, that's we got we got a lot to unpack there. Holy moly, uh This guy doesn't read comics. So he What it's not even that like the idea that okay, so if they're Mentally ill that means putting them in a mental asylum after they've committed murder is bad Like uh Maybe the idea that they're not getting the help they need is tragic and it's like oh well Yeah, the the systems do what they can right, but like the idea that's not his responsibility Also, I mean batman is preventing them from hurting other people and we're like Oh, we only accept that that's okay because comics. It's like what? And if anything batman would be absolutely justified killing villains all the time, but he chooses not to that's like his thing Is that he doesn't kill people, right? He he puts them in People to feel the way that he did he doesn't want somebody to go through Loss like he had that's his kind of Morality when it comes to killing also, I'd be curious what he would say the uh, uh, the joker in the dark nights mental illness was specifically What if I told you that mental illness is bad Like I know it's I know we're not supposed to say it, but it's people I assume that mental illness that something's wrong with you. It's not your fault But yeah, I was gonna say the the illness portion of it already sort of enters into the bad for health Yeah, so Yeah, so that'll have detrimental effects on how you view the world and how you process information and how you think Yeah, and his point is that we're happy to see those people get punched in the face because comics It's like whoa, that is not that's not what's happening things It's not like batman bursts into these people's houses strangles and beats them like ha ha. I'm your mentally ill It's like no, he's usually saving people's lives It's because they do bad things And it's not like every villain in the batman universe is mentally ill like some of them are just career criminals who want to Someone want money someone power prestige like And also you could be mentally ill but be acting totally in and be completely able to be held responsible for your actions If you're mentally ill and you go out and commit a bunch of crimes And do a bunch of stuff and be a super villain. You can't just say oh, he was mentally ill He's off the hook got to treat him especially like no, that's not how this works Especially considering how terrible people can be who don't have any mental illnesses at all Like what you think every horrible person has a mental illness is like no people who are totally normal are capable of horrendous things And we're allowed to beat them but not the mentally ill This is I don't know where this point came from. I feel like he's really half baked Like it is head. We're happy He thinks that we're happy to see batman beat these people up Just in general because it's batman. Woohoo comic books. Woohoo, and he's like no It's horrible because they're mentally ill and it's like Motherfucker if he's beating them up to prevent them from killing someone else Whether they're mentally ill or not doesn't even fucking come into the equation at that point If that if that was his point Then that would mean batman would be systematically going around goth them just punching anyone who was mentally That's what I was saying. He breaks into people's houses He checks if they're mentally ill if they are he beats them Oh no batman Yes, what right in the fucking kisser and To reiterate the first point It really really bugs me when people Reducto ad absurdum this whole. Oh, he dresses in a bat's you bat suit. That's okay. He's like, yeah dressing in a costume Doesn't mean that you're mentally ill it hides his identity and he gets the fucking the ability to fly or glide Like and it's armor like and he's it's shaped in a way that it's something he fears and he's spreading that fear to the people He's stopping like there's plenty of motivation and justification for it. Doesn't have to be just fucking bat suit. He's insane Okay Plenty of evidence suggests that batman is actually crazy. I'm not against that I'm just saying that like why Why do we resort to this every time like when we want to get serious about it? We just like pretend that comics are just these vapid idiot pieces of writing That are like lol bad guy punch good guy good guy beat bad guy into prison. Yay It's like I don't think it's ever been that simple. I mean maybe in some of the earliest shit, but I Come on the killing joke ends with batman and the joker laughing together That's how the killing joke ends So anyway Do you think that's straight up other Nicholson? So there's that I will say that the problems people had with the killing joke Are definitely amplified here a lot of fans believe joker needs to be a force of nature and giving him a back story robs him of his power I don't know if it was allen moore's intention, but since batman's part it's an adaptation. Why not? Yeah, but even in the killing joke Joker says himself. I don't know if it happened this way I I think I sometimes think things differently. So even in the killing joke itself He says I don't even know if this is true. This is reliable things change things happen. I think in a different manner every time So it's all ambiguous the whole thing anyway Part in that story is mostly about confronting the idea that his relationship with the joker will end in death I've always thought a joker origin made sense in that story You can't empathize with the force of nature Yeah, I don't know about that statement you can't empathize with the force of nature we're going Like wouldn't people describe Heath Ledger's joker as a force of nature in in the dark night and simultaneously He's trying to make a point that everybody Uh has a line everybody can fail the world is made up of people trying to like, you know Like there's a lot of points he makes in that film that makes you go And you could possibly empathize with his goals So, yeah, I don't know about that one bad choices a mentally ill low-wage worker taking care of his mentally ill Liar of a mother being mocked by his idol on tv As far as whether she's a liar or not Impression in the dark night that joker was uh More than a man you know vindictive. Yeah, or you know, he he You didn't think as if right. I'm gonna specifically Uh be vindictive to this person or that person. It was just no he was using People as he saw fit to achieve his goals You didn't think you know when he when he killed rachel you didn't think he did Rachel I think he did it specifically because he hated her dent. No He he left it to chance. Which one would be saved he bet on batman for sure Saving and therefore that's why he switched Uh where where he said the two people were because he he bet on batman So that that's all well and good So rachel was the one that died, but he didn't you didn't think there was any when I say malice You know towards harvey dent. It was the game. He was playing with batman He knew he he was he was guessing batman. He was seeing if he was correct He knew or thought batman will go after rachel and not yeah harvey So I'm gonna switch their load I'm gonna switch where I've said they are because that's who he's going to say And then he's gonna go and it's gonna be harvey and that's hopefully gonna push batman over the edge If it doesn't push him, it's gonna push harvey. So rachel was just a tool Nothing more to the joker. That's the force of nature That's to suggest that thomas is arthur's dad penny has that picture thomas wrote on the back of and it's a little strange that He knew arthur was adopted if he wasn't intimately involved in pennies life and really did plant the papers and story And maybe even got her committed like I said in part one the fun is that we don't know We don't need to know it could all be inside arthur's head anyway Reception to this movie was super divisive and I totally get why not It's only super divisive in the sense that sir By and large people really really like this movie Yeah, it did really well Yeah, um It seems to be like certain youtubers propagating the idea that It's terrible or that it's bad for horrible reasons that are nonsense. It's one of those movies Yeah, how many people have been on that invisible list? How do we cover it now? Don't they've all been so weak Yeah, like people who say that this film is bad Like there is definitely pushback against that idea But um, yeah, I'd say I've seen more youtubers say that this film is good than bad But maybe that's what he's referring to with super divisive the in in the critic community on youtube specifically because he's a he's a big part of it, I guess Yes But not everyone loves it and even I understand why it made you nervous even if I don't agree with the reasoning However, there's something I've been slowly learning about critics and general audience members alike This will sound strange coming from me, but every movie has a slew of problems from the overt to the miniscule flawless movies all right, so Surely every movie has a slew of problems No, well, but theoretically by his premise flawless movies can exist. Yes If there are problems there are solutions question mark Yes And if one has a problem compared with what you see as correct Theoretically a flawless movie could exist is all I'd want to ask him and if he said yes, but it doesn't I'd be like interesting Have you seen all movies? I mean it is the the idea that he's very already like no not possible as far as I'm concerned. It's probably Then maybe one out there most of people would reference 12 angry men I'm not sure what the flaw in that film would even be if you could find one Um But I don't I don't I don't the attitude behind this bugs me You know, well, I mean, maybe I'm being cynical right now But I feel like the attitude here is like there are flaws in everything. So shut up. It's like well, no Even if they were definitively flaws and everything it's still worth finding out what they were and Maybe even figuring out how to avoid them in future, right? That's that's the idea I think so And also I mean if you want to I mean a perfect movie It's just a a five minute Video of a chair in a room What's the flaw of it that you know what I mean, that's objectively that seems to be perfect to me There's no protagonist Yeah, it doesn't it's a ripping off taxi driver Look the plot the plot as a chair continues to sit in a room as as evans just kind of said as well shouldn't we like Try and separate them out into being like oh this one has loads of flaws, but this one doesn't interesting Maybe we should highlight the one with less flaws and then not condemn but criticize the one with more flaws Everly, uh, or you know either He's he's moving on saying That how much the flaws Joker's a great movie, but it's not a great spider-man movie That's true. You could you could do these silly little fucking flaws all day long if you want to That's why you look at them as a much broader, you know Well, like I like that you follow up with saying how much the flaws bother us Is in large part how to do with how we feel it's like no, it's entirely to do with how we feel How much it bothers us It doesn't care though a flaw doesn't care math doesn't give a shit that you don't feel like two plus two shouldn't be four Yeah, like how much does how much math bothers me is entirely subjective. What does that have to do with anything? But me like I don't gravity doesn't give a shit that it hurts you when you jump off a building No, there's there's a little entity like a little man with gravity and he's like, oh no, I killed another one today Guys I'm full of a cliff. He's like no Leave Murray's head Clearly he was bothered by the blood splat and not the fucking gaping wound Murray's head Different strokes Don't exist and whether those flaws bother us depends in large part to how we feel about the movie That's entirely razor thin line between masterpiece and schlocky What? No It's a razor thin line between the return of the king and the room razor thin line One piece of dialogue changed. They're the same movie Yeah Okay Holy moly razor thin line between masterpiece and try hard nonsense. Okay Is this just like something he put in because it sounded good and he's like, I don't have to think about it too much Well, this is the thing. I'm not even sure that like people on his team would agree with this. This sounds a little like, hmm This line can shift based on our emotions hard nonsense And how do you know it should raise your thin line or it can shift based on emotions? Yeah, that sounds like you have no basis for any of this at all. You're just like, I don't know It's there maybe sometimes it's thick thin moves left and right up and down Every single movie will fall apart when you start picking it apart objectively No, I disagree Well, okay, we'll say this Maybe that's true Maybe it's true. However, even assuming that is true That will still get us better more consistently written movies Well, even if it is a fool's errand, it will still move us towards something better Um, what what what have we done today? If not take all of cinema sins is critical Hypernit picks into parts and pieces of the story and then been like, oh no, that's actually inaccurate the more we tear apart layers of Joker there's actually things that make a lot of sense What I'm saying is you could flip this statement to be every single movie will get stronger when you start picking it apart Objectively, it's like no, it turns out every single movie will You know result differently when picking it apart in the details depends on who made it and how they made it Some things get worse. Yeah, simple as that based on how good they are in terms of, you know This is what I mean Like I challenge him to do this and this is the thing if he thinks that like that's what cinema sins does I'd be like you're graven miss gravely mistaken. Like it's fucking he doesn't do that job whatsoever Over like Let the three quarters of his inverted commerce sins were nonsense. It's absolute nonsense And I think I'm being generous It's the thing you go through scene by scene you'll find stuff that's like, oh, that's shaky and then you'll find stuff It's like, oh my god, that makes so much sense high five good stuff I'm not joking lord of the rings is full of plot contrivance plot convenience characters acting like aliens A fantasy world Characters acting like aliens They yeah, they basically are did you see the wizard he didn't act like Also, I take issue with the word full of or words It's like there's no fucking way lord of rings is full of plot contrivance convenience and characters acting like aliens. I don't even Full of it. What is what is this often just plain hot nonsense? What is but That's why you have to have contrivances and conveniences because plot has to happen Otherwise you do have Arthur fleck walking around the outside of wane hall for two hours waiting for an opportune moment to slip under the Rating yeah, all you all you've got to do is play the odds as in like What are the likelihood that wane would want to go to the bathroom? It's like pretty much 100 guaranteed you'd want to do it at some point Is it likely it would happen soon after arthur arrives? It's like I could It's not it's not impossible or anything. It's just like well, there you go. Well, we'll use that That's good enough. Let's let's show arthur arrive Let's show arthur sort of look around for a little bit and then we'll have him go to the toilets You don't have a have a have into the exact same time Um, but yeah, I don't know. This is an interesting Really interesting position to take the plot. You know this this video wasn't so bad up until now It was like you do it. Okay, but are you sort of critique at the end? It's just completely all over the place. Well. Yeah, he's trying to advocate that like shut up. Everything sucks No, no, it doesn't though I think he's just trying to be a bit lofty and he just doesn't actually know And often just plain hot nonsense on more than one occasion. They are still how it's a razor's edge between Lord of the Rings and a shitty movie Wait, I'll be determined that it's still a masterpiece. How can this yeah, I was about to say How can they be masterpiece films with his logic at all? Yeah, how can any film be better than the than another if they're all hot nonsense filled with plot contrivances and shit I don't understand Taxi driver itself exists in an alternate reality 1970s new york city with dialogue from 40 50 60 years ago in general was painfully unrealistic Oh, he's criticizing taxi driver now 40 50 no Taxi driver it's dialogue from that time wasn't unrealistic by definition It was realistic because that's what happened. Is that what he's saying right now Is that taxi driver is now unrealistic because the dialogue in it would be accurate to the time which is painfully But but so but if it's so watching an old movie like watching an old black and white 1940s movie is The way they talked was unrealistic But that's the way I'm confused. Is he saying unrealistic to modern times in which it's not set That's not what realistic means I'm so I'm so lost. What does he mean alternate reality 1970s as well? Well, he says always painfully unrealistic. So I think he's saying when it came out the dialogue was In his words painfully So it was theatrical and I don't understand like a film But but something doesn't have to be realistic Like yeah, I need started this off by saying it existed an alternate reality 1970s new york city But I need I need a reference. I'm confused. What part of the dialogues are you referring to specifically? That's unrealistic Are you talking to me? Is that painfully unrealistic? Atmolar, I think he means I think he means dated but even that it's gay The dialogue from 40 50 60 years ago in general was always painfully. Why are your visuals still joker as well when you're talking about taxi driver He says in general was always unrealistic Painfully painfully unrealistic in general was always unrealistic always unrealistic That's like when someone says absolutely, maybe Definitely, maybe Um, yeah, I'm just gonna roll it back this this this is falling apart dialogue from 40 50 60 years ago in general was always painfully unrealistic in general was always Okay, yeah, I'll agree with this guy Maybe 100% of the time it is 50% accurate Tomiak mentally ill cabbie builds a quick release sleeve gun contraption in an afternoon and then we have why is that wrong? Why is that bad? What yeah, the what he builds isn't entirely out. He so you got drawers, right? He dismantles one and so the railing that it attaches to he just puts it onto his arm and attaches the gun to the I feel like I could do that It's actually really kind of simple You could do it yourself if someone paid if someone said i'm gonna give you $10,000 to make a quick release sleeve gun contraption You might find a way to somehow do it And also being mentally ill is this broad catch all kind of term You could do it Maybe because you're mentally ill maybe because yeah easier for you to do it what you think einstein was all there in the head What a strange thing the one universally agreed writing crutch We all know you can't use but the good outweighs the bad Wait, but how can it be good or bad? What i'm confused How have you determined that not only that good outweighs the bad But there is good and bad and that you can differentiate between the two It's so odd. He's like on our team, but he says none of it really matters You know like you can actually determine where the flaws are and where the pros are But ultimately who cares It's like what why like yeah, we all we all know that movies can be good and bad, but you can't just say that Like okay, I am I am completely and utterly almost maybe a little bit confused Like if you are if your channel is cinema wins Like I feel like saying or implying that There is no good and bad would be counterproductive. There's no way you can't say that's the case How can anything be a win compared to a sin if that's the case? And doesn't this make a mockery of the fact that he just deals with inverted commas wins Yeah, maybe Gone through in the film. Maybe he's trying to say that you know when it comes to films They're all winning and losing at the same time You're like, oh That kind of makes it a little beating less but okay There's a there's a razor thin gap between winning and losing apparently So there's a razor thin gap between joker, which took over a billion on a 50 million budget and birds of prey Which just took 200 million on an 85 million dollar budget and is probably in the red Dude, look at this. Look at this rambly shit. We like the way the movie made us feel Even if you feel bad at the end you could like that feeling What are you talking about So apparently Hold up And his Jurassic park video he says this Screenplays acting plotting lighting filming all that stuff can be judged objectively, but usually I just don't see the point What isn't that what he does? I'm so fucking confused at the the mo of this channel at this point You just you just keep going down until he gives because everyone will eventually give You're like, okay, so why should we watch your channel just your opinions and he'll say Yes, is what he'll say and then you say How did you arrive at those opinions like just purely your feelings? Like you you're having something that you're getting these opinions from we're both watching the same scenes We're both looking at the same Shots listening to the same dialogue We're all we all have a finite amount of information that we're processing here How did you arrive at those opinions? What data and references did you use? Why if you accept these things exist and that they could be good or bad? How would you not see the point in talking about them? You would you come across as the person who would want to recognize that And then scream the good things from the rooftops I don't understand Like it's all meaningless like why devalue your own work so much I like this is acting can be judged objectively when that's pretty tough like To definitively argue why an actor is doing better than another one Yeah, I don't even know where I am on that one right now Like I could I could as far as I know I could only argue the general on that But I don't know if I could argue Yeah, we typically appeal to It's subjective We define the emotion and what facial expression they should have and are they portraying that? That's about as far as you can go It's a complicated thing to talk about but he seems to think that it's you know Done and done. Yeah, I mean, but we've said time and time again that not everything can be judged objectively to the same degree. Yeah I mean, it's it's just it's not something that covers everything Well, you know a gun firing bullets that couldn't possibly be in the gun. It's pretty definitive. There's no like Oh, well, I feel like it can be you're like, okay It's like completely undermining what you just spent the last uh 20 30 minutes or rather talking about yeah, I don't get it What's the point of him talking about the things that he'd like then? You know Well, I thought that these videos would go further than that like he's not just saying what he likes He's talking about the actual things that are definitively provable that are actually pretty good And we agreed with a lot of the stuff he brought up like yeah, that is a good thing That is a well done thing, but yeah What a what an adventure it was new and inventive and we like the way the movie made us feel Even if you feel bad at the end you can like that feeling and so we let the problems slide or we don't even notice No, if you let the problems slide, that's a flaw on you. Well, I'm not even going that far I'm just like, oh, so you agree that they exist. I don't care how much they affect you or not We're just talking about the existence and then the possibilities for ironing them out in future like what? I'm confused like I said, I'm really confused about this. I don't I don't know Change our emotions and the problems will be all we see what we see doesn't determine what the flaws are Yeah, the flaw exists regardless Yeah, you can feel if I was to however you want about it Yeah, if there's a theater playing a film and everyone just gets up and leaves That doesn't make the problems go away They're still there in the film Motions and the problems will be all we see and that includes social or political statements We interpret affecting our experience. This probably isn't used to anyone If we change our emotions to happiness then the problems are not all we can see They're gonna be the thing that we're probably going to completely miss because we're gonna be happy and I'm just picking up on the positive aspects So it doesn't make any sense what he's saying This is just and when people are absolutely a mitigated rambling trash And when people apply like a political statement to the movie for example rich people bad I'd be like no that movie the movie does not Have that give me your references and then if they were like well The rich people are overthrown and it's celebrated at the end. I'd just be like Sorry They aren't overthrown. Well, yeah, I was gonna say Gotham is just rioted It's not necessarily that anything has happened that can't be reversed or fixed and that's certainly what seems to be the The goal now That city needs to be healed in a bad position But you know, this is the thing a lot of people come away with a lot of stuff and you talk to them And you figure out their references and then you you throw in curveballs You're like, so how come a lot of the poor victimize the poor If it's a class a film about how the rich victimized the poor And then I guess they could try and be like well the poor Brainwashed into doing that or something that you you'll start to get like the Scrambling for trying to make their points fit whatever But like we said when you get more definitive Like a gun can only hold so many bullets and they fire more than could be held There's no like interpretation like oh other than unreliable narrator, which is uh commonly Uh uses an ejector seat, I guess We are feelings matter. It's just frustrating to watch the same exact people complain about the exact same detail in one movie And defended in another give me an example But you I bet you fucking won't I bet you won't give us an example. I'm good. Yeah, I curious who I'm curious if he's thinking who he's thinking about when he says this and for some reason I'm getting the vibe that it's like I wonder if he's talking about like the people who rip into tlj and then those people who are like, you know These problems are the ot right? Yeah, and their problems there, too Yeah, that's that's the always the response if they are present then they are problems as well And I like that he says that he's guilty of it as well But I'm assuming he's gonna give us another curveball as well because the truth is we can't completely control our emotions And pure objectivity is pretty much impossible for humans. Which means we shouldn't fucking try it all, huh? So there are things that we can find out objectively not everything to the same degree But we have systems that we can use that are designed specifically to remove the biases from individuals Like what do you think science is built upon? That's all like idea of it is to remove the biases of humans And to get to the best explanations for the stuff around us And I mean I doubt you're gonna complain about that especially seeing how successful it is I mean if he's simply talking about you cannot be fully objective about everything as a as a human or something Like some kind of super agreeable statement which is like okay We're like maybe a singular human. Yeah, sure if someone said a singular human an individual cannot be purely objective Yeah, I will agree with that But a large group of people using a system that is specifically designed to remove biases and And independently verify things and remove biases then I would agree that yeah We can have a system that removes all subjectivity also, doesn't this just fall the fuck apart when he said All that stuff can be judged objectively, but he doesn't see the point like So and if it's not possible to do something to its perfect level It shouldn't be done or tempted. Is he suggesting you can do it? look We so it's possible, but not for humans. Is that is that how that's consistent? Like you you could possibly Like can a robot be created? We have to create the robot rags. It's happening. It's got a dump. Just get it Talk to do Man, this is weird shit I guess joker got us talking about some things and I'm glad that the original hysteria has subsided We'll have to wait a few decades to see where this movie lands in history. You don't always have to say something to be Where it lands in history doesn't mean anything about objectivity. You don't always have to say something to be remembered Well, yeah You could do stuff Don't have to say But it depends on what you mean by said well, I just I'm amused by the I think it means a message You know a moral a message I guess Next week is either going to be a re-upload with some additions to a okay. I don't I was gonna say I don't want another ad We're all right. Well, yeah There we go. Jets we did cinema twins and cinema twins I think I think wins was better except for that ending Until the last couple of minutes and then it's like he he was wanting to make some big high-minded point That he didn't know how to make Or what he was trying to say It's like you don't have to you don't always have to like wrap your video up with some like big grandiose Like philosophical debate like you're just analyzing the the good aspects of our film It's enough to just do that sometimes And and that that does it I suppose That does it for my sanity I think I think at best, you know, he had a an idea of what he wanted to say and it just totally got away from it and at worse I mean if he wanted to go for the The milk toast perspective, which is all stuff has flaws. How much it bothers you is down to you. They'd be like, yeah, okay Whatever I got this feeling though that he thinks he's a lot cleverer than he is and he's probably not I would say I guarantee not Wow I um No, there's no need to devalue your own work It's like you don't have to do that. Sure. Somebody else out there will do it for you. No need to The ending is basically him saying Give up folks just give up It's a razor thin edge between a great movie and a terrible movie Oh, I don't even if it's a razor thin edge. What was even the distinction? What's the point of the distinction? Yeah, how do you tell? wild Yeah, that's it. Um I suppose we shall move into good old-fashioned Super chats now, uh, but if anybody of you of you wonderful lot would like to jump out at this point, it's um I suppose it's up to you. Well, how's everyone feeling? Uh, I feel emotionally drained after that Well, uh, I mean I can I've got all the ones that we haven't covered yet me and rags in a in a Uh, no pad I can try and get through as many of this episodes as I can in case they involve you guys, uh Or Go ahead. Yeah, I I would like to stay for the super chats, but I do have to get up tomorrow, unfortunately So I'll probably need to drop out there. I would say in that case Why don't you talk about your channel and what you've been doing lately during all of this quarantine stuff? I always hate this bar where I have to describe my own channel. I feel like I'm trying to sell myself That's the fuck Shall do it Okay, so my channel is a movie and tv review channel where I talk about random movies that I like and hate and try to give reasonably coherent arguments for both And I've done a couple of different sections within it like Where I try to fix broken characters from movies and try and rewrite them to make them better And I also do a recommend series where I talk about some of my favorite films from over the years and why I think they're really good Uh, so that's pretty much what I do and in terms of what I've been up to in lockdown Mostly just drinking and masturbating to be honest. It's the best thing to do Ray. Oh, there's um Goga is in in chat. He's one. He made the um the the meme where uh, we're all in Star Wars. It's it's like that was fantastic Yeah, I was gonna say I can't show those live because they'll get definitely taken down for copyright But uh, he was looking to see if you'd seen it. So I know I shared it on twitter today. I think oh, there you go That was the first time I'd spotted it. I think someone mentioned it on my last live stream And I was like, oh, I need to try and find that and it was only today that I happened to see it Uh, but no, it was excellent. It was really good. We got all my greatest hits there Well, then it's um, it's been fun. Mr. Dranklage Thank you very much. We shall see you in the futures Excellent so I should look forward to it. See you later And then there were four either of you gentlemen wish to leave us or uh, are you going to stay? Yeah, I'll stick around for some chess Oh, right. I'll be, I'll be good to head out now too. Oh, wow Abandonment is totally fine. Do you want me to do you want do you want to promote your channel yet or? There's gonna be stuff on there eventually keep keep sub in one day something will happen. There you go one day Um, I I take pride in being more subbed than uh, some people on youtube who spend all day Just making response videos to other people. Wow. There you go. You do you you have thousands of subscribers people are just waiting for that content No, it's still in it. It's still in the triple digits right now. It's still still there But now I know it's uh, yeah, it's been it's been good fun and uh, oh man, those those blue memes could be great It's worth it just for that I keep forgetting that my channel has a one on it instead of an L. It's like the only time I use the names like that It's awful a one I didn't know why I probably because I can't remember my last one and then I just went off I probably could it's not pretty for But yes, anyway, uh, yeah, it's been good. I'll see you guys later then anyway Bye Oh Wait, yeah, let me show this meme on on the streamer's email email email. No, so if you guys have seen big trouble little china Uh, it does Kind of get ripped off by joker if you think about it. Got I have it's right white male heroes are treated as jokes by the people around them You got the ethnic sidekicks men wearing makeup A corrupt elder villain that the hero laughs at when meeting them and uh the arm spread pose in the poster This is just a few of of thousands of direct copycat moments that I uh Well, I'll be honest with you. It makes it kind of difficult to enjoy joker. I will say Well, yeah, I know that I hate it I'm glad that the truth is getting out there though. If you guys know, I mean, it's nice to wake up sheeple Just to rip off of big trouble and love china particularly the bit when they get the wizards flying The straw hats on I love that in joker now Pikachu made like a meme for when I was talking about nebula I guess this is maybe like oh my god nebula. I I don't think I want to be on nebula, honestly Um, what do you want jay? I invaded e fat. Why? Um, I have I have powers. Were you were you recently on a stream with a bunch of tisms? Uh, that's what yeah, I mean like it's not how I expected to be spending my evening. I'll I'll say that much How'd it go? It's fun. I asked no bullshit about the joker Oh shit What is the stream that you were on over there or no? He said that he never said that yet. It's over He said that he never said that that we played in the clip, uh, and he was like, um I can't remember what he said after we played in the clip. He like he just kept moving on Yeah, he'll just flat out fucking deny it despite the proof and he's like he was like so someone was like, um Did you Did you say that there were a suspicious amount of women in black panther and he said no, I never said that Right so then They pull up the clip And they play in him saying him saying it like, you know that and uh his argument for why he never said that is He says there were a suspicious amount of female characters around the king This argument was that they were power for power like paraphrasing him. He's he's not real. Is he How can he be real? Love's is insane I mean I legit asked him was like, oh, so you have a problem with paraphrasing and he says yes Oh So when we say women we should have said female characters Yeah, that's that's fair. That's fair actually. I agree. I agree Dude was so much fun Was it like you him and a moderator or was this Something oh, there were loads of people that fucking freaky bourwick showed up. I wasn't expecting that It was like it was like a cluster fucking like 10 people by the end. How did you get on there? Like what happened? Oh, like I've been on their streams before So, uh, I was already in the server and I just like there's there's like a waiting to call Uh voice chat and I I entered that and he let me in and I was like, oh Well, we're about to do super chats, so Epic do you really want to be here jay? All right, yeah, I'll stick around for a while. Also jay answer you you're your king of all, uh virtue What should I do focus the the efap super chats from this stream because one of the guests is still here Or do the ones from the previous streams that haven't been answered yet first Uh, I'd go with this stream first. Wow, I agree. Well, then I can't be held responsible or alternate from one to the other Wait, can you still access the old super chance? Why wouldn't I be able to we can have this cover because they took out the the place in youtube where you uh Oh, no, I'm looking at them through the the new one now, which I don't like but what are you gonna do? Oh, I didn't know you could do that Okay, uh horizon zero dawn is coming to pc also high rags Hello Yes, as is finally here on efap true Then hi look six and a half hours so far. Yeah It's been a ride Finally a notification for the live stream Um, yes, that person's still there like yes They've been waiting for that. Uh, I got my hi So, yeah, I've already noticed it took like a couple of hours, but then people were like, yeah It's not in the um the sub feed anymore the the video just keeps getting removed from there after a certain amount of time Um, which is a shame. I don't know how to fix that But it basically means that the only people who will be able to stay on the stream at that point The ones who already found it or the ones that happen to be uh on my channel looking at stuff at the time Weird Hello long man. I lost a family member today. So I really needed this. I love all the content you put out and high rags No, hello Uh, yeah, hope you're doing okay. Yeah, sorry to hear that. That's the account is fred the cosmic chicken as well. So it's uh longtime viewer, I imagine Yeah, I hope you're doing okay Oy moly still waiting on that iron man three praise. It's not gonna happen movie sucks Patrick woelms thinks that it's the best of all the iron man I'm sure he I'm sure he does Why do I sound surprised? Yeah, well, he tweeted out apparently that he thinks infinity war is worse is is worse than end game on basically every level I'm gonna say jay would know about that and said this is your worst take Like this is a professional youtube film reviewer that some people respect I mean, how is he just going from like the emotional payoff pretty much and exclusively But even that's a that right with by that standard I would say yeah, sure Well, I wouldn't I don't know that I would because I feel like the emotional payoffs are kind of damaged Yeah, like one I really like but others and like what? I found fat Thor too jarring Yeah, I didn't like fat Thor. Yeah, they fucked up for what I I'm still like a big uh What's the one I'm looking for supporter not supporter whatever fuck it Yeah, I'm still a big step for the idea that um That fat Thor is an inherently bad idea playing it off as a joke is where they ruined it Yeah, it's really also depends on where he goes next that could determine whether or not the journey was worth it Um, but I'm worried very worried Like I prefer uh Thor's aesthetic is like a a large guy like I preferred him as like a a tank It makes sense considering he's Thor Wait when you say tanked you mean when he's like armored up at the end fine Thanos, but also fat Yeah, like he's still like he's fat, but he's still got muscle on him Like he's a he's a strong man rather than a bodybuilder and I prefer that look for him Yeah, I can agree with that. He looks I think he looks pretty awesome. Uh in the final fight Yeah Now this one just says rags Oh Well, well that's it Uh moeller explained to drinker why starship troopers is bad satire. Oh boy. I love you all Well, um That he's not here. So satirizing. Yeah, this is this that's where it gets complicated. A lot of people will give the I mean, I would probably just he uh, He watched does he watch sargon's content? I would just send him a sargon video. It's free enough to run to um It's pretty in depth. Hmm Also says love you all very kind think very much Well, I mean we're As much as a content creator can love a viewer, you know, it's uh as much as I you know, I it's is responsible to love a person on the internet Dear eFap, would you please stop being copycats and streaming when we do? Thank you love smudcast I'm pretty sure If we started before them We'd be going after they finish. So it's totally fine. But uh, I hope they're doing well I don't know. I think they did one today. Saturday's right Well, we yeah, I mean we can't we've been consistent on that now for a while, right? We've been good. Yeah Yay I expect it Uh, please start asking every guest from now on the halloween vs christmas question to fill the void of the episode nine question Also, hi ragaloid Hello, i'm sorry j all of the guests answered christmas this time around Of course they do. Oh, that's okay to be wrong I agree Uh, awks like you's content long man But awks like eFap. That's pretty cool That's good. I'll take that Ahoy longman the pattern's still there but fwiw for What would fwiw be for for when I win for what is chat what's fwiw For what I wager fwiw Bat women inside whales women They're plus size What it's worth. There you go Um For what it's worth palpatine never electrocuted himself in the ot the lightning arcs under him to hit vader in return of the jedi But it never hits him. He still exploded though I mean, it's you can it's a fun little thing That he doesn't kind of gets hit by lightning all the time. It's it's fun uh Watch academic academic academic agents new star wars video I don't know who that is Well, yeah, I'll put it in the thing. All right, uh Uh kim yong's sister got the dictator slash fendom vibes fendom vibes All right. I'm done. I'm done Uh I rags fam don Uh, so he did a cigar stream a week ago. Um, it's like a star wars debate was palpatine in the right all along He blew up a planet. The older on thing is pretty inexcusable Yeah, like He blew up a planet Wait, okay, I this feels like a debate that would be worth watching I'm gonna watch this before I watch the rings It's about we've constructed a narrative heroic narrative where palpatine is the supreme man of action Who nearly saved the galaxy from simping degenerates and flat current in fiat currency? I don't remember that in the I don't remember that in the films um Yeah, hi rags Hi, will you cover fallout 76 wastelanders? Probably not because my attention will be on the mandalorian But I'm curious morbidly In a strange way So you're gonna say that obese way In obese way I'm curious enough to fallout 76 I want to meet these enemies who steal your character Shit Yeah For permanently as well. You can't get it by Now that could be an interesting legit gameplay feature But we know that was an accident. They didn't mean that We put it in case he turns out they want your stuff For efap 100 you should all react to efap one I It's we could do something like that at the end We could be like just playing the opening of efap one for the ls bring it all around It's it's been a lot two years at that point. That's that's like a lot of days That's like more than 400 days more than 500 days 500 600 No, no way We carefully can't go too high mass is hard. You realize that if you uh, I've forgotten what I was gonna say math Please tell me you guys saw the phantom apprentice That sounds familiar. Is that a fan made thing? No, wait, is that the last clone wars episode? No, we didn't. Oh, is it what's the clone wars? No, we didn't see it. I don't like I said I just I heard some funny memes on twitter about how Darth Maul could have won the day if he had just slashed a poll And then when I said it Chat either had yeah, it was dumb or no, that's not what happened. So I'll let I'll let someone else run that war me and me and rags are just not up on the clone war-tisms You know, we're not up on there Darth Maul No, right Spoilers it's this is Darth Maul in a pole. Okay, that's all I know Um It might have been Uh mauler have you seen and then a collection of characters. I think you'll really enjoy season two Okay Don't want to figure out what that is Let's google it But Um It's a this it comes up with cat videos Oh Cat video season two looking milk a cat licking out the first thing that comes up is uh Hello, mr. Rags Hello There you go. That's what it's called. Hello, mr. Rags. Maul. Have you seen hello, mr. Rags? I've not I Apparently season two is pretty good. Yeah, it sounds like it. Come on boy. Uh, the seasons are great Covering bad joker takes without jay longbone Well, it happened eventually. I'm so sorry I figured Yeah, she's awesome, but it's only so much joketism. She can take I'm sure I think we're all excited because a new bat one episode is out in what two days now. Where's it today? No today. Oh my god Uh, hi, I'm the guy that makes bread pickles and lasagna with his wife She's been sewing reusable masks for those caregivers. She works with and I couldn't be more proud Can everyone give her an Uh, I'm a motherfucking t-rex I'm a motherfucking t-rex Yeah, I guess that's what I'm a motherfucking t-rex. I'm a motherfucking t-rex What is that? That's what he's I'm a mfing t-rex. I'm an mfing t-rex as well There's a part of me that wants to say Not only am I not a tyrannosaurus rex, but I've never once a single time fucked to my mother Well, but you have your granny at christmas. Yeah, no, you just ruined the granny at christmas. That's different. I just ruined her E-fab quote without context. I had a goldfish, but it died. I ate it when I tried to taste it with my balls Uh Taste it with my balls I don't know. There's taste buds in the balls, right? Or around them. Sure. Why not? Um, molla, please remove a book error from return of the king mini 408 Gandalf has aragorn track golem during the 17 years between bilbo's party and frodo's quest Uh, I don't know Uh, if that's something that we didn't add in because we hadn't read the book or something that was forgotten Just don't worry about it. It'll be fine. I'm I'm not 100% sure of what that's I guess that's official kim don kim jong un is dead Oh Yeah, kim jong un is dead, uh botched heart surgery Boss People are getting killed, huh? Here's the thing. I don't know This could have been who knows if it was an accident This is gonna this is interesting I was gonna say does that have like significant repercussions for everything or nuclear war Who's the next one? I don't know. Probably one of the generals. It goes kim jong ill king jong un King jong would you go from ill to un to what what comes next? I think marky march next charles charles king john charles It's movie bob next. He's next in life. Oh, no Oh, yeah, no, it's your sister that says sister is next. Oh, he's shoes and he's he was 36 Damn Well, um Mola, can you say if the world chooses to become my enemy? I will fight like I always have All right If the world chooses to become my enemy, I will fight like I always have it's for a meme apparently Uh picked up the w e g star wars rpg a must read for anyone writing wanting to write star wars stories I recommend checking it out for the chapters on designing adventures. It sets a great base for making a story feel like star wars That's cool. That's really cool Uh, there was a character called stripparella I'm not sure what that is relating to but very well That sounds like trauma or something Uh, hey mullinator serious question. What mic are you using that would be an 80 2020 xlr microphone It's good shit And uh, that ends with also high rags Hello Rags the captain marvel trailer pitch was effing gold kudos sir Oh shed tool That feels so long ago Because it was Mola are you ever going to change a profile pic or have you permanently settled on this iteration? I feel like I could change it in future if a particular piece of fan art makes me go But I really like this one. Yeah, so Possible, but uh semi-permanent. Let's put it that way Have you watched after life? I highly recommend it. Yes. I've seen season one. I like it a lot I heard season two released recently and i'm probably gonna check it out soon It's uh, it's a good little tv show. I recommend it's only like three hours long in total right now for season one quite easy to get into It's a bit dark It's uh, it's about suicide antisms. That's quite funny as well Suicide is badass Are you going to efat mini the rest of the cw tv shows or at least season one of the different shows and rank them? All so high rags Hello We're only doing batwoman for now and maybe in the future. They could be super girl There also could be something, you know other than that. We're not a hundred percent sure I gotta get batwoman sold out first I guess someone Someone's showing a screenshot here of the darth mall thing Yeah, I So couldn't he have just cut that and she would have fallen Oh Well, no he cuts in front of him you'll be fine. He cuts in front of him not behind him Oh, wait, Jesus Okay, no, no, no. I yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah fans. I didn't realize it was only connected at one end Wait, if he was connected at both ends, how would he cut it so that he fell and she fell? I was assuming it would like Fuck it. I don't care Like I was assuming I was assuming that like it was it was some kind of pole that if you cut it in half It would no longer have its structural integrity and stay up. That's what was happening in my brain I realize that that is not what was happening in me ever. Don't don't look at the screen She's a fucking like she's a fucking force user. She can jump high like well, this is the thing I don't I don't know the full context of this fight. I don't know if if you want her to fall There are easier ways than pushing using cutting the pole. I don't know. That's pretty easy Yeah, you're using a sword that can cut through like butter. Like why not? I don't know if using the force is easier actually A sword that can cut through butter No, like butter. Like butter. Like butter. God Yeah, I don't know. We don't have the context for this. It could be more or less stupid. Like who knows Uh Go eat homemade pizza now. We'll be back. Oh gonna go eat. All right. Well, I hope that they Mashed up, you know order it eat it and came back and I'm like well time for another pizza Um more please say sub to can't say the d-word lol intoxicated three pio also welcome welcome as also also high rags Hi so It says it says say sub to can't say the d-word lol intoxicated three pio. What are what are what am I supposed to say? Sub to the dank droid Uh crew what What's the d-word you can't say damn. I don't know So that's too damn intoxicated three pio. Oh drunk three pio But what's the word I can't say drunk Why would that be wait that's censored on super chance moller, please say Sub to drunk three pio Okay, because intoxicated is another word for drunk can't say the d-word But wait, but the meme is that I fucked it up the last time they asked me to do it So I don't know if they're telling me to fuck it up on papers again Or that they couldn't write drunk into the super chat and that they want me to say that What how that's dumb. What if you wanted to say the past tense of drink in your super chat? But I don't know. I don't know. Well, this is the thing. It's youtube. I don't know Subscribe to past tense of swim Swoon Subscribe to intoxicated three pio. Is that what they wanted? Yeah, we good. Did we do it? Yeah What's from John Ellis Bush Bush I like saying his name whenever his name comes up So as are you a heel or are you a baby face? Uh Tonight, uh, I've been a little bit healish But some baby face in there as well But definitely a bit heal with that last bloody cinema wins nonsense Something like drunk isn't the past term of drink rags It is if you're gonna use it as a it's it is if it's the past participle Used for the present perfect and past perfect tenses So you'd say I drank, you know, I drank tea Yesterday, but you would say I have never drunk tea I had never drunk tea It's like swum, right? I I swim, right? I swim I swam I have swum Because that's English English is gay Black debate. It is a very kind. It is a very tisny language Um, so as are you the referee wouldn't want to misgender you Uh, my pronouns are squiggle and Just squiggle So it would be I squiggle I squaggled yesterday But I have squuggled Dude, we don't want to know about your squaggling I do pronouns pronouns. Did you ruin grandma with your squaggle? I don't have a squaggle At Christmas The biggest problem with the clone wars now is Ahsoka Just exists to disagree with everyone and so she ends up contradicting herself, but Maul is good. I rags. Uhu Hello, uhu Well, that's a debate between Yeah, Ahsoka People are gonna Beneficially suspended Is what now? Uh, Alinity has been officially suspended. Oh, oh my god Wait, what how long shocked actually Don't know don't know that but yeah So much news while doing efap. What the what in the world? How could they do this to us? Oh, she's uh, she got three days for shunga. Oh, that's so that's what that's three days of nipple She showed a boobleton and so twitch are like you you my goodness. How dare you stop that? Oh my god a boobleton That's illegal It is very against you don't say a bad word or else you'll be banned for ever maybe Yeah, show a tit just for the period of lockdown. It should be legal to show tits on on twitch dicks as well and and virginis You know, I feel like that's uh while we're in lockdown that's reasonable a virgin Virgin It's like what else will flashers do the pretty well they pretty much do Yeah, they don't they can't actually show tit they can't show nipples They can't show nipple they can clearly show tit nirpial on jay jay jay subscribe to my channel. It's just five dollars. You don't need it Does as show his nipples on stream if you don't if you don't have five dollars the irresponsible What? Here i'm if it it was if it was a legit accident. I don't think that you need Telly telly tubbies after dark Telly telly after dark Yo, his face makes that image It's like hey guys that fucking baby son is gone now. We can start myself a good It's actually uh, he's actually he's actually snorting a line of coke off his dick That's what's happening here. It's just not taking any chance grandma. No Oh Anyway Because this is a this is a wholesome family stream. Jesus Uh, disney must be severed from lucas film like the many limbs over the years in star wars All right. Oh Jesus that happened That child looks like he controls them these like this These are my serpents It's just awkward because one of them is called tinky winky, which is just like, oh Ho is my favorite Mole is easily beaten by a padawan. I kid you not well Mole was beaten by a padawan before Get it because there'll be one Yeah, yeah, yes. Oh my god. What telly tubbies only has 3.7 on IMGV All out of out of 10 Oh Who's going that high trashing the the fucking Trashing telly tubby Who's going like no, this is fucking terrible. All right. Let's see these reviews We've got 10 out of 10s 10. Let's get a zero. See what's Going on here So the first one out of 10 review I can see says trust me. I think telly tubbies has already been classified under horror on IMGV Is that that book can't be legit. I don't know. That's the thing it's That looks like I don't know, man The words are a photoshop, maybe Uh, yeah, sure the the words are but I think the picture the picture really does look pretty indicative of those 60 70s sci-fi anthology. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think the picture is legit. It's the it's the lettering Yeah, but it isn't actually dipsy life life after telly tubbies lost in the dimension of the sun Can you uh, I'm just gonna I'm just gonna post one of these reviews. I'll uh I'll let you let you give it a read rags if you want to All right, let's say one out of 10 star review by keegan santiago Dear lord, I hate this show so much It is so annoying and disturbing. My son cries every time he sees this show I have to tell him every night that there is no telly tubby in his closet Oh Almost every night my son screams telly tubbies telly tubbies And I race to his room I see him with the baseball bat running around screaming the telly tubbies are coming the telly tubbies are coming And note that my son at 17 So thank you telly tubbies for ruining my son's childhood I hate all of you. Ho tinky winky you and never the rest of your names I like that it says take winky at the rags it says All of you tink winky Yeah Good times All right, um, how come mola never gets kicked? Well, if I get kicked everyone gets kicked we can't have that It's terrible Please watch gaming sins everything wrong with mass effect three redux by gcn Is that like a different person again gaming sins or is that like a subsidiary of cinema? Oh, it's a different person Yeah, there are several channels that do gaming sins but gaming sins is an average channel I've covered them like twice. I think Are they bad? I can't remember They've got some bad videos. I don't know if they're bad overall. I can't really remember We've all got bad videos. Yeah, we've all got bad videos. Yeah, jay Yeah, John camp here Sorry Tater tots or hash browns also high rags Hi, um, I'm gonna go with hash browns. I'm gonna pick. I'm gonna pick. I'm not sure. I don't even know what What are tater tots? I mean, are they are they potato Yeah That's browns agree. I know tater tots from, um, napoleon dynamite When he shoves them all into his pocket I thought like what isn't a tater top what like americans call a seesaw what tater totter It's like a breaded tater top It's basically just it's like they're pretty much just the same thing. They just have different shapes Yeah, so the difference is do you like So so a tater top has more unmolested potatoes inside of it Whereas hash browns because they are spread out and more flat. They are there's more grilled potato to them And I prefer hash browns. I like the really crunchy aspect of the potatoes wait Hang on I think I prefer unmolested potatoes I I clicked an image and I was like what and then I was you know like you click an image on google images And you read the text below the image. I read the text below the image and I was like, oh That's not what I thought that was gonna say Um Favorite post star in lesbian sexy So do you think that dipsy there sticks His oh my god poker into pose hole Yes, is this dipsy's doing a fucking power stance. Look at that shit It's that's that's almost T posing dipsy fucks dipsy does Well, here. Let's google it. Who is the sexiest tele tub I'm curious what you're fine winky myself I wouldn't fuck any of them personally You'd fuck them impersonally like like you like a prostitute Yeah, yeah, yeah, I would want to discard them afterwards Why what is this website like Jay? I need to show you what I've just seen as a result of you sending me here Well Why would people be disgusted by that? Um, it's so normal and not disgusting. Pube lashes are pube lashes Oh, wow. Oh my goodness. No, it looks like a bunch of dead spiders That's like one of the best things it can look like as well So pubes don't if they are unkempt they look terrible Then that is a that is a garden that must be maintained and trimmed or eradicated turn that shit into a parking lot Yeah Interestingly enough I was looking for uh information on what is the sexiest tele tubby As one does and I found a I found an article from the bbc From 1999 It is called gay tinky winky bad for children Um the innocent world of the tele tubbies is under attack from america's religious right The reverend jelly jerry fallwell a former spokesman for america's moral majority has denounced the bbc tv children show He said it does not provide a good role model for children because tinky winky is gay Is tinky winky gay? I don't know, but I just so happens that I said of all of them. I found him the hottest So there you go. That's why well, I said possible. You can fuck him. Yeah, I yeah Um, if I had to choose I'd fuck tinky winky turns out. He's totally gay. He'd be into it Uh cheerful tinky winky the purple character with a triangular aerial on his head carries a handbag But apart from that Seems much the same as his friends la la dipsy and po the characters are famous for their use of baby language Including the catchphrases Meaning hello and uh oh for oh dear But the tele tubbies have made the reverend fall well Chancellor of liberty university in lynchburg virginia Hot under the collar. He decided to out tinky winky in the february edition of his national liberty journal This is a real headline hang on I think so maybe this is Uh-oh tinky winky's sexuality under spotlight is a real headline Wow irish times dot com I don't know if that's I don't know if that's a real source. It sounds like one, but I've never heard of the irish times before So he said there are So he said that there are subtle depictions of gay sexuality And they are intentional and later issues a statement that read as a christian I feel that role modeling the gay lifestyle is damaging to the moral lives of children Dude that so sounds like no bullshit looking for sjw moments and tele tubbies 2020 no bullshit is the 1999 Jerry fall vote fall. Well, dude. I could so see It's a bullshit doing a video about how tinky winky is gay As the bbc spokeswoman said as far as we're concerned tinky winky is simply a sweet technological baby with a magic bag So a gay person basically What would the bbc of 2020 say? They are proud that tinky winky is an open and out gay person. Exactly. Exactly 2020 um 2020 tinky winky would proudly get married on screen He's just like a whatever it is. He's he's a whatever. It's it's just a tinky. He's it's a tally tubby. They don't fuck The tally tubby species has four genders and they're all represented in the show each one has a different Well, there's some for four genders one of each Yeah Whenever there's a new one born It's a just a new gender Yes Can I be a male? Ah, sorry. No tinky winky called that. Can I be a female? Oh, no, uh dip sees that Ah, shit What else is there? Can I change genders every day? Oh, no, that's that's uh, that's po po is That po is that So anyway Say what critical drinker, please sign my face also win I I think uh, what do we do with this? I I guess You would do it metaphorically. All right, and that's there you go um Hey, smile around a long time. No here try not to say mollus First name this time lol. We must keep up the myth that his name is clancy also kick j You don't know that it's not glancy Mola, do you did you see the tweet recently from the massive who said that objective critique isn't real because once someone disagrees and says A movie is good then your proof that it's bad is null That's Interesting. All right, then I'm glad we uh, someone disagrees with you then that what? Well, I mean What oh, oh that reminds me. You know, uh bob vids you you're aware of him, right? I is He released a video recently for the first time in like three years. Mm-hmm and in it. He does the Uh, the this is what an objective review would be and then shows a little robot Yeah film came out in this year. It is this long it does that I was like, oh Well, he had a much weirder take on it than I've ever seen right He has no idea what people who believe in objectivity actually believe he said that's a shocker No, even less so than usual he's his um his description of what um people who believe in objectivity believe is um That once a certain number of people agree on something's quality, then it becomes objective. Oh, so he's shad It's just just I think that kind of Kind of in a weird way. Shads are wildcard That's very true Well depends on what because shad thinks about the consistency thing as well But that fucking retard gushin thought that We think objectivity is consensus Where do they pull this shit from? No, I don't think Like what yeah Well, I guess not It's too long in finish just to clarify shad We'll have multiple ones to use so one it would be like consistency, which is not about Who says is or isn't but on the other hand you'll have like Like the genre one where something should be something because that's how most people understand it to be So that one would be considered like You know majority opinion, I guess Oh my goodness. I Okay, so I need I need you to feast your eyes on Bayowin's Latest creation Am I? Oh Oh boy, is it about the telly-tubbies? Oh, it's about something Oh, it's gonna be Bayowin out for a while. Let us see it. Yeah, what's taking so long? Don't keep the people waiting It's long Oh, that's rags grandma Oh At Christmas we we nail our stockings to the wall No, the Christmas is fine poor Kremis. Oh my goodness Oh Rags you've ruined grandma and on Christmas Well Yeah, yeah only razor tailed for her dignity. I ruined our work version on the patreon. I don't think so I I ruined her teeth out Oh, she's having a cigarette Because old lady's smoke. Mm-hmm after fucking No, after ruining after ruining And then you have a cigarette I hid that's what uh, that's what Star Wars did Oh goodness. Wow, Bayowin. I oh whenever I get whenever I see in my DMs Bayowin's face pop up with a big red one next to it I'm like, oh god What's happening last bear? We're not There was there was one I feel like recently last time it was bumble rags Oh, that was J for getting bumble rags How tall are you I'm six six foot even six enemies I'm six centimeters tall. Well, I'm a dog. So it's an unfair comparison What are you in dog height? In dog height Oh, it like converted to human height. Mm-hmm Six one Like I heard you say that you were uh, 511 on a stream. I'm like 510 511 Yeah, that's that's pretty impressive for a dog. So yeah, you measure you measure at the shoulders. I think but but uh I'm I'm curious. How much? Well, never mind. We won't get into that. I was curious. You seem twiggy He's very very very live I'm very narrow very lanky Yes, lanky. No lanky Lanky jay Speaking of jay, this next one says the one time chat wants jay here. Yeah jay you missed us covering cinema wins Uh, yeah, I did miss that. I was busy talking to people more important than you You also miss cinema sins I saw a lot of that No, but you weren't in the in the here and the now Well, I was in the chat Lies and the chat was chanting my name Without kicking it. Yeah, why is that you is there some kind of connection you have with cinema sins or something? um I'm I I fucked his wife Oh Damn kind of shows that we're pretty biased to have you on and not him, you know Pretty fucked up of us to do that No, I'm here to represent him. Anyway, what would you all think about a star wars show about a sith lord that is morally gray? As in they don't like the idea of fighting someone the feel is weaker than them also high rags Uh, hey So the morally grayness is that they don't want to fight someone that is weak More weaker than them Oh Certainly room for it. Good. Good. Good work. I'm sure there's certainly room for it I guess but you'd have to have more than I don't want to fight someone weaker than me to be morally gray Let's let's be honest. If that was the announcement. Okay. If that was an announcement like if they um Uh, disney announced new star wars series. It's about a sith who's morally gray and refuses to fight anyone weaker than themselves I would be thrilled that that's what they're focusing on No, I they would say uh our lead character who's a trans woman of color Is it's I that's just the cast because their latest their latest announcement was we're making a new star wars show It's centered around women. I'm like Oh, we don't like women Uh, what is it about though? women I was gonna say Women in space the movie Women can't go to space Some of them some of them It's a lot of it a lot of women in space A lot of space. Oh, true Forced the guests to take the movie bob challenge, uh We're not in the interest of killing our guests, but We can always let them know about it. Maybe they can decide themselves I forget what it even is. It's like it's like four four burgers for medium Uh, like sodas two large fries Two 20 mcnuggets. I think is that it? 40 mcnuggets. Yeah, if you eat all of that In within 90 minutes, you win the movie bob challenge No, I'd be sick. Well, he considers it a small meal Well here, I'll just here's a like an average meal. Nope. Not average Click on that. Oh my god. He did say small Was this a joke like no, this is movie bob How Oh god, I've just been puking all over the place see I I feel like if I prepared for like a day and didn't eat anything for ages before I could eat that I don't think I could I don't think I think it's like a a physical space inside of the body issue The drinks throw me off. I don't think I can do it a lot of it All the drinks. I didn't realize the drinks. Oh, there are four sodas there. What do you be able to do without sodas? Those drinks are gonna make you vomit that post mix is just the only way without the drinks is if I've maximized the time to the 90 minutes Like stop eat loads as quickly as possible and then take like a break and hopefully by the time you Mathematically calculate how many bites per minute you need to take I reckon I could eat that Like I can put a lot of food away if I need to do it Take the movie bulb challenge He ate that in 90 minutes No, that was the the tweet was somebody offers you $3,500 to finish everything on this tray in 90 minutes Could or would you do it? This McDonald's still open. Can I puke? I don't know. I don't know if McDonald's is open Yeah, you wouldn't know that That's an interesting stipulation because I feel like I would Well, if we can do that, that's just doesn't do a point is cheating Oh, I uh fast food. I very rarely ever get fast food. I had Popeyes on Friday Because I was out and about uh for a portion of the day doing this and that and I needed a bite So I was like, oh, here's Popeyes. I haven't been there and Maybe ever I went and had some Popeyes is all right So stories over Is that Yeah, had some Popeyes. It was all right. Do the challenge. That's that's the moral of the story. Do the challenge Um, no puking always in back. No, it says puking always invalidates. That makes sense. No, no, no, no You can puke you have to swallow the puke back down To be fair at least you don't have to eat McDonald's. Yeah. No, you still I was gonna say it's puked up McDonald's. So yeah It probably tastes better Uh finished Buffy season six, it was amazing Buffy EFAP when I don't know how I would do a Buffy EFAP You'd be I don't I don't know how that would work. Maybe if I force Braggs to get through all of it. I'll consider it Gary from Nerdrodder kid love Oh, yeah, he'd be someone I'd have on for it Not Gary from Joker Um, if he's up for it I like Gary from Joker. He seemed like a cool dude Who's the better who's the better midget? out of Gary well, I'll I'm getting there out of um, I'm thinking of I'm thinking my out of Out of Gary from Joker, uh, peter dinklage from game of thrones Or um, I don't know the middle guy in the lollipop guild It's just like peter dinklage from game of thrones like it's the act of Dave Peter dinklage from game of thrones. Well, well gary from joker. It's just gary Gary from joker, you're dinklage from game of thrones. Maybe you've heard of him. Um Or the middle lollipop guild mate. I my favorite is peter dinklage. I'm putting it out there. He's my chosen. Really? Yep Yeah, he's neat, but would fucking kill warwick davis in a fight. Yeah I feel like what what who's who's uh, who's we man from jackass? How old's he? How old he's probably about 40 90s I mean now, yeah I wonder midgets age gracefully Yes, I don't know. Why don't you have a look? I suppose it I don't want to ruin any more grandmas. All right See you got to take up midget right The dwarves still shrink when they get older Yeah, they just disappear when they die of old age. They just shrink it to nothing There's a really high pitch scream I need dwarves in the chat. How you doing? We love this for us We love dude. I've yeah like There's a thousand people watching. What's the rate of dwarfism? Is there statistically speaking a dwarf in the chat? I need to find this out Uh rate of dwarfism One in one in 15,000 people that seems low. I thought it would be more than that really Well, theoretically you see more dwarves a dwarf has watched defab, right? Well, it's probably because they live in like in the mountains and stuff What? So you don't notice them in your daily life, but if you go to the strong Then you'll see a bunch of them there I was saying I feel like I I see a lot more dwarves in my day-to-day life than one in every 15,000 people I see Really? Yeah, maybe that maybe you're just lucky that You're in a dwarf dense area Oh, no, I've I've lived in a lot of places and this is just like a pretty hard and first thing like I would have just seen was more than that. I feel like counting. Why are you talking about what makes you hard? To be fair, I've not been taking you how many people. Yes to be fair I've not been counting like how many people I've been seeing like it could be that I'm just underestimating and it actually is one in every 15,000 people I see And I've just been underestimating the amount of other people I see Chat brings up a good point. Is it the same dwarf? No, that you keep seeing the same door. Yeah Jake, can you be sure? Yeah, but can you be sure it's it's a different dwarf. It's not the same dwarf like if Chances are if you see them the second time they'll it'll be different day. They'll be wearing different clothes you know Maybe they've done their beard a different way or you know have a different helmet on New cologne Yeah I bet dwarves can drink a lot They just seem like they're very stout and alcohol resistant I feel like the lower body weight is going to have its impact on how much you can drink though Oh, yeah, I'm sure but like what when it comes to like body size to you know, like like relatively like like it can a 100 pound dwarf Like drink more than a 200 pound human you know I feel like Peter's English could drink me under the table more like relative to body size, you know, yeah So anyway, hey, I'm on episode 30 now. Mola talked about cinemasins being terrible from the start there, too Oh, it took me that long to say it I've been against it ever since I would not came up sooner. Yeah I covered them before that Covered them like 17. Oh, yeah, wait. No, I covered we covered them with you, right? Because we I brought yeah, we covered twice his predator video. It was like episode fucking five or some shit I think it was seven or seven either way Yeah, it was seven I know your show better than you you are fired. I was this my show. This is you're the manager Yeah, jay Jesus, I mean you host it Oh, okay. All right. Yeah, we'll let everyone believe that I make all the decisions. Okay You'll this baby face love your vids mate. What do you think of shadowlands? Uh, thank you number one and uh number two. I've not I've not checked out anything not at all So I don't know Yeah, sorry. Yeah, this ends with get Louis Levi on already It's definitely an hour to do pile. Absolutely. Yep. Got a lot in that to do pile. It's a big old chunkus Finally he'll this baby face is on efap fantastic. Blessed be the dawn Thank you Down with halloween christmas forever. Oh Yeah, just like those christmas fanatics to destroy all the other holidays To christmas forever would be the worst. Yes, it would it would be horrible Oh, isn't there some of the like mick foley or something the rest Christmas room in his house or some christmas christmas room. Yeah, there's some some shit like that That's like a build a good punishment Being sent to the christmas room And then he goes in there and he dresses in santa He's like got a real fetish for santa for christmas time and shit Well, if you got to have a fetish for something No, there are so many Like just like being tied up like a normal person Well, we've got got some devs vaults going on in the stream Naturally Keep it simple. Mm-hmm I feel like that's not as simple as you can make it. So getting tied up versus fairies. Which one is the more controversial fetish? Straw ball probably getting tied up because tied up involves physically getting tied up No, but like I feel like Yeah, I feel like it's more accepted than the disgusting other one I'm getting different answers in chat. Would you like to fuck me? I look like a giraffe What does that mean? Honey, you know what they say about long necks Oh Yeah, it's a long climb high up heads Very frustrating blowjobs Yeah, they have to I don't know what the neck. I don't know what the long neck has to do with giving a giraffe a blowjob No, the giraffe will be giving you the blow Yeah, nice save Very awkward for them because the neck's gonna get in the way and it's like Lie down Necks gonna give it to you Big and so a giraffe is gonna really struggle at the breast at times never mind at the breast of time You know so the breast of time It was the breast of time it was the breast of times it was the breast of times it was the first of times The first of times you This is the first case scenario Having a woman dresses an animal doesn't do it for me Well, that's only a subsection of it What about a man rags is like there's plenty more to choose from Yeah There you go. I think it's called. Um, let me double check. Um, what about an animal dresses a girl? Um What are they wearing the girl like? Oh, no So that so that's called the girl and they're wearing it. That's a mursuit Who fucking the and the animal costumes basically Not weird at all There we are. Oh, no, that's fucking weird, but that's gonna say that the complete silence told everyone how weird it was In fact, that's the the vast majority of furries to my understanding do not mursuit Probably because it involves wearing a full body costume while you're fucking. Yeah, that could be at least you're fucking so good for you I guess What with your like your arms and legs sort of constrained Not constrained. You're in a costume. You're wearing your animal costume, but there's holes in it What's that? I'm saying yeah, can you get your legs out or your legs? Can you well, I mean you could take the costume out, but That you could move them wherever you want. I suppose you're just in the animal costume That betrays the whole nature of the fish then if you're gonna do that that's fucking the nature of the what? Fucking commit to it, right? You got to have your fucking hands trapped inside your arms trapped inside Your legs trapped inside and if you want to fuck then you got to try fuck Trace the nature of the fish You don't betray it. I don't understand what this means. Actually, I don't I You know, you're gonna be flopping around on the floor trying to get your fucking dick in that vargoo I think now Why would you probably like direction? Anyway, and it's really unsexy. She can't open her legs Which makes it all good because now now she's got to bend the knees a bit get the ass up And you and you you're on the ground so you're trying to now get yourself I think that all mer suits are but what if they aren't fish, right? I'm saying what if your first sonar? What if your spirit animal isn't a fish? Like if you want to make out like a parrot, then you're betraying the fish No, no, no a no, no, I think we have a we have a betraying the nature You've betrayed the nature of no no no mur isn't like a mermaid mur as an m. You are As in gold frankincense That's m y r r So I think we've exhausted this topic unless anyone else was just Because i'm not a mur suitor myself Let's go back to you at the tally-tally's genders All four of them are you are a tinky-winky, dipsy, alala, or a po I have a car People will take that out of context and believe that we think that there are four genders in there that's Oh This is disturbing stuff you're playing Oh, that's you asked what an animal you asked what an animal dressed as a girl would be and I found it That's sort of very good disguise though animal dressed as a girl Yeah, no the answer is no not a girl. Oh that is an animal dressed as a girl No, it's pretty adorable, but I wouldn't fuck it I don't well the second the second one's a girl, but it's clearly a lesbian So she would be interesting like something a lesbian would wear So it kind of it's already scuppered my my option. So the only option I've got is fucking bessie dressed up as a Waitress in some 1950s diner You know how rare gay sheep Do you know how rare they are in the uk? I mean might be a dime a dozen over in the states, but here you don't have 19 So I'm going to have to say You have a third option All right of the three this is probably the best. Oh, yeah, absolutely. It's not even close. It's not even fucking close That's Cyrus from trailer park Cyrus from trailer park Oh, no, I can't put a the cheetah Yeah Oh well Learned something new today Oh Hi, Moeller. I started watching buffy because of you and I'm on season four now. Thank you also high wags Hello, yes, enjoy get to season five and six. They're the ones. They're the ones to give you the big ol flumpus Oh, have fun Sony's doing a one punch man movie Oh boy Unbridled rage and coming you all wanted have you watched season two yet? No, I'm scared of it The same um You should read the manga. It's rad. Also. What are your thoughts on on pat and woolly? Pat and woolly Did you spell that pat and woolly? Not pat and woolly pat and woolly apparently pat and woolly is like a It's like a I'm getting pretty tired. So I'm gonna hop out here Very well jail Kick jay Oh, apparently it's super best friends plays. Okay. Yeah, I don't know anything about him. I'm sorry We're uneducated on such subjects Uh christmas is dependent on having family to be enjoyed to its fullest halloween can be enjoyed in full on one's own Halloween is objectively better I don't think that logic follows I don't think things are better because orphans can enjoy them easier I imagine they're referring to like, you know, you can have tizm family sometimes not just no family That still includes orphans. It does. It does just not just orphans, you know Yeah, I feel like that kind of ruins it for you though. I think team halloween is uh They've been Yeah, I just Well, I don't appeal to popularity. In fact, my opinions are often unpopular. It's it's it's the hard road for me I'll I'll stick to what's right even in favor against such waves of disagreement. It's fine. I'll survive You guys should check out extraction on netflix story and characterization Uh is a bit cliche but fight choreography camera works a real treat also high rags Hello extraction. Yeah, I've never heard of it, but uh, maybe a cue By the way, I haven't heard a lot of stuff on netflix. Have you tried terminator resistance yet? I have not but I've heard good things Yeah, I've heard it's all right. Mm-hmm This one just says my r is hard That's fair enough. Yeah, I'm not gonna take that away from A massive on twitter said they want to see brie larson and jody wittaker tango and cash remake because favorite actors charisma singularity Absolutely, I want I want that film I'll stop no And I want it to be a big budget 150 million 10 trillion dollars, I think is the only way Uh money for rags star wars stripper career. Hello ol rago, right? Yeah, that's good Resident Evil 3 was the big gay some force pushes up there I am I don't know enough about Resident Evil 3, but I I've heard differing dissenting perspectives upon it Yeah, definitely seems to be far more mixed in its reception than uh, Yes, yeah, it's a lot lot shorter For a start. I'm just waiting for four. Give me four. Mm-hmm four. What's the best thing for a remake? So I worry about a resident evil four. I'm curious, but I'm still really worried Well, there's me naively assuming that they won't fuck with it. Okay, just because I think that four is modern enough to where It doesn't need to be changed in any real way Like if it's a re like if anything resident evil four should be remastered Not It's not hd remake, you know hd Yeah, but even Even like the current versions you could buy that are hd you could still tell like this was a game from a long ass time ago It looks like an old game but Hate uh him go with me with this resident evil four remake Scoping up ashley's skirt. Hmm. I don't think they're gonna let that happen You pervert Or she just didn't fucking have anything there. You just see why wait, isn't she underage? It just bricks whatever platform you're playing it on. You're like, oh She's like 21 22 Oh, I thought she was like I don't even know it. I thought she was I just wanted to make sure because it's a japanese game and you can never Fucking tell with these people. She's at college And at the end at the end when she's uh on the jet ski would Yeah, jonah jonah jonah fuck And he's like no way back It's like well, he's he's dead now. He's he died a few days ago. So Maybe the newly un being conducive to Yeah, what are the films besides joker? Do you consider to be unjustly derided or willfully misunderstood? Captain marvel Is a masterpiece. It's just captured humanity So Unjustly maligned derided and willfully misunderstood Prometheus no that film deserves everything it got Oh, yeah, civil war is probably fair shit tons of people hate civil war and think it's terrible and oftentimes it's because they're like Yeah, because they do the whole like Uh Stupid that the government are trying to stop them from saving the world to take which is always like Uh, the last jedi. Why would you even? Iron man three and no dark knight right no stop suggesting movies that's that are the big gay Tross I like that It's poopy I give it I give it a big old poop sticker and I put it on there and it smells weird Batman and robin what do you mean that movie is really awful, but I love it I love it, but it is like Pirates of the Caribbean three what is this everyone's just recommending shitty wait robocop isn't like maligned or derided Yeah Robocop what do they mean the new one? Oh Starship troopers. That's mine. I'm throwing my hat in with stuff Most people like that film these days. I don't like it. Yeah. Yeah Just people have this weird Think that it's this weird fascist movie Because they saw a man in a trench coat. So I guess they're like, oh Well fascist do weird trench coats do you disagree with that? Oh, no, that's how you tell them apart If you do you're a fascist a fact schist A fact that's what we are. We're fact. We like facts. I'm wishistic about it That's sort of all right. Well chat such Incredibles to okay chat enough put it down put it down Wallace and kromik here's to the we're rabbit people like that movie. I love Wallace and kromik here's to the we're rabbit. Fuck you Inception's divisive What are some funny american stereotypes in your country? Oh, I live in America. So this is easy Well, I was gonna say the ones that we have over here all just generated from media, right? A lot of them are like traceable to just your standard populace of like simpsons or whatever. It's like, oh, they like guns They're like they're obnoxious They're like Fucking riding horses. They wear cowboy hats Those americans riding their horses Fat arrogant Uh dumb Entitled orange man All americans the orange man What are the ones some of the ones you know, right? Huh? Oh a lot of the cowboy stuff. Um The the the redneck hillbilly thing Um, the super carons Huh? Karen's everywhere. Yeah, I feel like that's just everywhere. Karen that uh, probably mostly in america. I guess I don't know Karen's will unite us That bring us together I think I think Karen's They came from california That's where they that's where they They they were developed In a lab um, I think they kind of just Wow, we're sort of metamorphised In into science. They were in cocoons Yeah Yeah, say that like that's weird And then they demanded immediately to speak to your manager It makes sense to me They're like, oh my god, I just like I'm out of my cocoon and stop Oh, this guy They don't deserve to speak stop them It's the patriarchy stop out um Rags and his grandma ruining dog rocket At christmas Grandma ruining dog Um, I'd be a good band name Thoughts on the alien franchise How would you rank the films also high raggled mcdaggled Hello, uh, so I quite love the alien franchise, but really only because of two of them Uh, they all they all suck Alien three is probably the best of all of the suck Um, and then alien and aliens I kind of love almost equally aliens just cinches it for me though because I love the characters in aliens versus The expert atmosphere being nailed in the first alien like alien is fucking great But aliens I get really invested in ripply and newt and uh, well everybody It was how to escalate a franchise Mola you made fun of movie bob for his obesity again. Here's more money Also Wow movie bob that fat slob. Oh my goodness. Also my god the evolution of efab memes has been absolutely insane The evolution of them. I mean they've been pretty they've been pretty nuts from the gecko. Remember the one of the first proper like Things into it was kyle ben It was thanos, but with kyle michael seara's face and kyla ren's hair And they did some really good photoshop saw that shit Oh my god people said you need to bone up on the efab memes before You can't you up. All right. There are like 10,000 memes. Yeah It's like I can't do that. Are you crazy? I'm just gonna have to ride it out But like open I like went into the first few and I was just like Welcome to the bone zone Welcome I watched your ds2 series at least 20 times. I love it. It's funny to see our amnesia soma series and the differences The music was horrible. Hey, well hang on the music is from uh westworld and uh ad from soba Was the music that bad? Oh wait was the ds2 series just has dark souls music in it. I'm confused now, but I'm glad you enjoy them Maybe it was my balancing. I don't know but thank you Uh all those evolved as a critic I have rags mola settle this is nightmare before christmas a halloween or christmas movie When did it come out? That's a good question I'm I'm willing to concede it's kind of a christmas movie I think I The point of the movie is to bring love happy disjoy to everybody and he gets that from going to christmas land so Hey, yeah, that's because christmas is the best holiday. Yeah. Well, I mean halloween has cool factor It blows christmas out of the water with a cool factor I'm sorry, man. Cool rule of cool The rule of cool Uh, also have you read the throad books drinkers are cool reindeer. What up? Oh el hang on christmas elves are not cool Yeah, they are they're lame elves from like lord of the rings are cool They make toys Yeah, it's amazing fucking slave labor over here. That's so cool. Dude slavery is cool. Oh, no Wow Rags this they will quote you rags stop as an as and I we're talking about that in our private dms before we came on efat We were talking about how cool slavery was I I was like, what's your what's your favorite like institution and he was like on slavery. I was like, I know It's so many good institutions for slavery man. Oh, yeah, I'm all the way dark. He just went right Yeah rape is badass Because it's institutionized rape If you're not believed that you should get out Yeah, there's a question for drinker about whether or not he's read the thrawn books I uh, I can hang on to that one. No idea when that may or may not be answered. I'm afraid um There's pop that over here Okay My critical review of mohler. I love this channel and I want some more game streams. Oh I do too. Yeah, we need to do that. We keep saying we will kind of and then we kind of we We got to get batwoman soiled charging this out jay. Damn it. Yeah Good fire him Well, once we have this new editor Yes, there's so many bad movies. I'm sure we'd love to watch Once the ones we have watched can be put on youtube Yeah, all right, uh my critical review of oh, wait. Yeah, I love rag. Hello. Smiler drink man good All right, that's that's from glib. I know he knows english He sounds like a nice guy with really good taste in men Yes My dad once told me of a business that had a going out of business sign up for several years because the going out of business Status made them profitable again after being in trouble before Why would you get a sign if you're going out of business? That's dumb. I've learned this from many youtube intellect utils psych It's one of the most like that's the take that a like this is something you would expect a child to say Yes, who's never been outside or understand anything this one dimensional Thinking that stops at step one Give your grandma a good old tug Oh, no I don't know why but last week I dreamed that I was watching alex jones on live tv reacting to gedel Did you imagine it? My goodness, I think he'd be a little confused Muldig wait for it. He's a conspiracy wizard. You'll see what the message of it overall was He's going crazy in this coped shite. He's going mad. Yeah, I'll bet Muldig consider inviting chris avalon after you finish koto to you Doldly long iman He said that he is always open to talk about star wars Fair enough Uh, would you guys see that rise of skywalker is the star wars equivalent of the justice league 2017 certainly seems that way to me I feel like rise of skywalk is probably worse Do the super heroes know which way up is? A lot to ask She might go up. Oh no. No, I don't know where to go and away Left right and away Backward square I used to be proud that cinema sins followed me on twitter and now I'm ashamed How do you please and follow me Yeah Andy sycno followed me. I don't know if he still does Um, but uh, yeah, that was a funny one Mollin rags, what do you think about the new female centric star wars show being made? I can't wait It'll be a terrible. It's going to be horrible. We will check it out for sure I feel like we could have a bat woman on our hands and I'll happily check it out We might have a bat woman on our hands, boy He's Making them keep making them imagine a team of bat women All competing over who could get all the glory Get the most people killed I let four bad guys go today. I let three bad guys go today. Whoa I scissored today so I beat all of you. Oh my god I scissored the bad guy and let her go Yeah Cinema sins is okay Cinema sins is okay with you robbing him. He'll just tell his boss Yeah, well, this is the way I mean his his whole assessment of that whole fucking part of the film is very weird But a lot of people's is a lot of people seem to just not be able to accept that sequence of events. It's so odd Why would you have a side move? Uh, hello, mawler and co. Which fictional universe would each of you prefer to live in and why? Um out of all of them. Yeah, if it's all of them, I guess Probably I would probably say mass effect is definitely up there Um, I might go with mass effect as a fictional universe to live in Um, if I had to go for the future if I had to go for something that was like fantasy or past That'd probably go with um Oh, I don't know. I'll think about it, but I I'd say mass effect um Yes attempted by what I know about the the deus axe universe Seems pretty neat, uh Probably not star wars because it's pretty dangerous What else we got like like it's all futuristicy ones True lots of carons Robo-carons. Oh no, not the robo-caron Manda-carons Uh, oh come on. That's a possibility actually be interesting Middle-earth for the well, we're talking about fantasy and passwords middle-earth is a possibility assuming it's not in war times Seems like it'd be a lot of fun to live there Yeah, but there's still like no magic for the most part like you won't have access to magic So if you have a terrible disease or something like that Like it wouldn't be terrible But I feel as if it's close enough to the real old real old times that Like my impact as a day-to-day citizen I think the future is the way to go The progress of technology interstellar travel How good all the tech will be The kind of fun that you could have you could fuck aliens like man I think it'd be I'd think that'd be the tits Well depending on the alien, yeah Yeah, they could have six that could have none Oh, I mean like as a as a turn of phrase However, they could also have many tits Universal standards so far seems to be a pair will do you Also rags, would you poop with the door open with green eggs and ham with jay watching? No, I wouldn't poop with the door open for even if no one was there to watch I'd still close the Close the door. That's the Um origin of the controversy. I almost said controversy for whatever reason I know that's how some people say it For whatever reason I went to have that be my default People And then it's he got banned for three days by the Oh, well Shouldn't be showing your boobs. That's wrong. It hurts the children's eyes So if if an accident's an accident if they were if they gave her a warning or put her on If they gave her a warrant an official warning for that like, okay It was an accident sure the problem is that people do tiny little things And then they get banned for a week or a month or just kicked off the platform So you'd think that if that's how they treated stuff like that She's been showing a tit would be a bit more than three days I mean, I don't get it. Not with your girl. And then at least she brings too many bucks Super rats were a thing in new york in the 70s. Well, how about that? Did they get the super cats then I don't know. Why would you think I'd know the answer to that? I'm not like a genius I am pretty up to date on that actually It's cool that you know it took a class in college new york rat studies in the 70s The road to eldorado was directed by a frenchman So fapping to shell or saying les formages is technically cultural appropriation Yeah, but they culture aided the appropriate of the Eldorado Eldoradians eldorado Eldorado the elderites sound goofy to me My only flaw with joker is that the joker by the steve miller band wasn't played at any time during the film That's a pretty big flaw Cinema sins isn't funny. I'm sure they've cracked a good joke at some point Yeah, at least once like accidentally. Yeah Like they told a pun that they didn't know was a pun at the time and then people said hey bro nice pun And so they said, yeah, we meant. Yeah, I'm a pun master Jokers bad. Are you guys actually racist because all the reasonable statements you make lead me to say yes Am I I mean the truth the truth. What do you what do you expect us to do about it? It's like we can't escape it. You can either be rational and real or you can be not a racist And that's the tooth Mugloys and wagsu what are your thoughts about dockwood? Have you played it? I've played it for a little bit and what I've played is legitimately good It's one of those games on my list of go back and finish I played it for like I want to say two hours. Maybe three. I thought it was really cool and I never played it again and I don't know why I blame society I also blame society Have you played have you played katana zero? No Katana zero. No, I haven't if not try it also praise wolf and high mood b I guess that's mood b. I don't I hello Reg hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on Alinity is tweeted out Saying that she's actually been given a 24 hour ban Wow, and she doesn't think and she doesn't think it's enough and she's trying to get extended to three days Wow It's like all right Please this has got to be a fake. It's got to be a fake tweet. Please I don't think it's any harder daddy. My goodness Uh rags opinion on void interactives ready or not Here I can I don't think I've played that. Let me double check. Um It's not like the one game I told you to play The answer is no, this is the first person shooter, right? Yeah, this is the I'm pretty sure this is the first person shooter A realistic tactical first person shooter No, I have not played ready or not All right Mola I thought Robert Downey jr. Did a poor job portraying you in dr Longdoodle and the film only being two hours. No appreciation for efap lore at all Yeah, most people don't know that um dr Longdoodle was an adaptation of efap. We were not happy with it. We weren't even paid. They just they just stole it stole it all But uh, you know, we'll get it right eventually. Maybe one day Adaptations are hard. They wanted to go their own direction and uh, we appreciate them for that But we don't appreciate them for anything else Will we ever get deep voice smiler back? Well, he's got a different microphone now. So we would hope not But you never know. Yeah, but he could you could make a good microphone worse Is that possible? Yeah, he could fuck around with the settings my god Uh, watch clone wars. It's full of plot holes contrivances and inconsistencies a lot of your audience likely loves it So rags should definitely see it on Oh sweet. That's what I need on my fucking mind The clone wars the show Low-hanging I don't trust people about these sorts of things anymore Low-hanging fruit Jeremy also high ragu Hello Is this thing Jeremy is low-hanging fruit? I don't know But the the Jeremy from cinema sins not the Jeremy from geeks and gamers not the Jeremy from the quartering not the Is there another Jeremy kids Jeremy? Yeah Fallen chair like all those people you had all that work and effort to have and raise a child And you're like who's leaving Jeremy like stop dude. Jerome. No one does that Do something that not everyone else is yeah Tony's wrong in homecoming when he says vulture isn't an alleged avengers level threat The avengers raided hydra in age of ultron who also had shatari weapons and loki scepter vulture's also been going for four years Yeah, but the hydra people Are using the scepter the scepter can control people's minds the scepter doesn't exist by the time Homecoming comes around And as much as the vulture is just he's not really like global threat level And they're mopping up the end of uh winter soldier in age of ultron. They're trying to just clear out hydra And so if vulture was a part of hydra they might have done that but he was just some dude in some place Yeah, he wasn't doing the amount of damage I'd love to see you guys watch arches Arch is the 40k imperium of man fascist video You want us to cover it? I mean I I just I don't have much context if any about 40k I don't know enough about Stuff and yeah, I don't know about I don't know enough about warhammer stuff Uh vulture also sells black hole grenades, which is basically selling nukes on the street Tony should have dealt with him directly, especially since he's been working under tony's radar for that long Uh, we only hear about We only hear about the idea that they have them We never actually see them in use there's a good chance that tony didn't even know they had Access to or we're selling them, but again, we don't even see them in the in the uh film But that just like destroys a small space, right? Well, yeah, those they're the ones from Thor 2 and they were pretty cool if not insane. They were really cool. Yeah But they weren't And what's the difference between in terms of destruction? What's the difference between that and just a strong just a grenade really? Yeah, like it's gonna kill the person probably if it blows up near them No matter what uh kind of like a grenade a grenade A grenade speaking of warhammer 40k. Did you guys watch a statis? Yeah, I did It's great. I don't even hear about how good it is. I've seen memes made it from it. I haven't seen the actual idiot Uh Yeah, the last part is super The humans were the good guys in avatar I assume I mean the james camera one and uh, yeah, of course. They were just trying to get the unobtainium To protect the people on the planet. Okay, I haven't seen that Anti-human bigots Acting as if like they have borders or something First off no borders. Everyone should be able to go where they want and private property Yeah, like those aliens all of a sudden they're like, oh, no, no, no We definitely understand borders and private property now that someone else has come along Private property Uh, imagine your town is filled with garbage mutants giant rats crime everywhere unemployment your local news won't talk about that, right? So unreal Oh, I think this is because Jeremy was like god so on the nose that it's on the news that there's super rats Yeah, okay. Can you imagine? I'm nuts. Um crazy Rags is remarkably dog-like in his personality Is the grandma that rags ruined supposed to be alfred? No I've dreamed about being a chat member I've dreamed about being a chat member called on to efab dreams like this happen So we can pinpoint exactly where we are in the super chance. This is when Jeremy is commenting on The Joker's initial fantasy in the film. That's how early we are Oh, wow Maybe the monologue wasn't funny because it was in Arthur's head and he isn't a great charismatic joke teller I mean, yeah, I guess they're talking about Maybe Murray's monologue. He doesn't he doesn't make any jokes. Does he or does he? Oh, what he says the solution to the super rats is super cats. That's one of the jokes he makes I don't remember Jeremy saying it was unfunny though Uh, yeah, he didn't he says Oh, well, he says that uh, Robert De Niro is awkward or something, right? Yeah, yeah I'm like, okay Awkward Total sin count 1.2 billion Nice nine shots at 9th avenue at the number nine train I'm gonna start calling my saturday night parties 1.2 billion neat Uh, Joker is the film that proves objectivity for me. It's fantastic, but I don't like it It's also the only time the Joker has been a good character. Oh Oh, shit. You're gonna rile up chat with that one Person super chatter. How dare you rile them up? They're gonna they're gonna hit you with what was it? The socks with batteries in them or bars of soap Like we did to search. Yeah I've been on seven medications in the past that obviously did something but ultimately at times depending on the medications might not always be helpful Yeah, it's perfectly uh Potentially gonna happen. I don't know why that was considered so Unrealistic or or even rude that she was like they must be doing sub thing Because Jeremy said so. All right nailed it Uh, Joker hates those who hurt small people and kids Wait, does that mean Joker hates people who hurt small people and he hates kids? Joker hates kids. I could believe it Yeah A lot about medication is trial and error and sometimes medications are meant to counteract the side effects of other medications It's a very complicated process to say the least Yes, it is very true. Yeah, I imagine you have to go to like college to learn how it all works and no, no It's complicated and just need a book Is need a book Mall not cutting the beam was dumb, but it was it was but it was the only problem with the episode But it was still dumb. Okay This is a guy who makes Well, apparently. I don't know. I haven't seen it. All right This is a guy who makes fun of others jokes and comedy god I want to bang on those cinema shins until they snap in half hashtag legend of raw or legion of raw Oh my goodness I get that if you're gonna if you're gonna pick out the sins, but you gotta be fucking charl Try and be funny. Yeah, that'd be great It was shit Yeah, if you're gonna make fun of comedy then man, if you ain't gonna play that game you better be On fire with the joketisms You covered sins infinity war will you do end game? Um I mean we could do all kinds of stuff from cinema sins and wins. It's just that we got we got a Look around, you know, lots different people to cover. We haven't done wins or sins in a while We thought it'd be a nice little double bill to have them back to back on joker Yeah, I think it worked well. We'll probably do it again Down the line, we'll have them both on a single subject and see how they do Sins and wins. Yeah, the sin the cinema twins cinema twins How do you even fire a seven-cylinder revolver? Easily, hey man, it came from a guy who's regularly drunk. Okay You'll find a way Mola used to steal games now he steals people in people's enjoyment of art or If I can't enjoy the art in this game, then no one can enjoy art. That's my whole motivation I turned up thinking we were gonna discuss joker and then I find out the first thing I find out. Oh, we're gonna watch cinema sins Hey, we got to talk all about the good stuff in joker though. It was well worth it You stole those games Mola I was hacked no Maybe for the next e-fab gaming you could play anomaly. It's a kind of freestyle role-playing game about paranormal investigation could be good for law Oh, I've never heard of it Uh anomaly game collection anomaly warzone earth, but Let me see I'll go to steam and take a look. Hmm talk about bat woman She's she and she's gay. Who's your favorite character in bat woman s? Uh, I know it's a tough question. Uh, probably Alice Wait, you like it because what do you grace Scott? I number one totally ban the shit out of Rachel scars and Number two. She's just chewing a senior. She's just going for it. Fair enough. It's absolute fucking shit Our favorite is Jacob and we don't know why I like I like Jacob. I feel like he's died inside He's died in the show like three times No, no, I mean do grace Scott has died inside. Oh, totally. You can tell he's fucking done with his own life with this show, but it's still I just want things to work out Jacob and nobody else. Yeah, I guarantee you he's begging Begging to be killed off at the end of the season Well, yeah, I feel like he's gonna die by the end of the season, but you never know. He's like the only name in this show so Because I feel like ruby rose is destroying whatever she had with her name by doing this show Jane this could have been such a well, I don't know. It's the cw Yeah But it could have been a very Average show if they could have been so average and yet Here we are Very consistent Norse out at 10s forever Uh carpet everyone rose. Oh my god. Yeah, she's she's surprised me consistently with how bad her acting is My favorite character is hot. Oh Oh, yeah, hot luke is the best, but he was he's not even real Saihan luke. No hot luke. Remember him. He was he was in one episode in crisis on infinite earth You like Alternate universe luke tweak Uh, not twink twink luke. I mean, I'm willing to say he was just chad luke He was a twink. He was living out. He was living at wane manager service bruise. You could tell Fucking he was that was his negro man service Deccanoff. He was extremely He's he's super buff He has a gun. He means business what we got we got shitty muffin baking luke. Yeah, I went hot luke from alternate universe Yeah, we did we did get we did get would you like some fairy cakes in the oven? I I made you some bat muffins for your birthday some bat cupcakes. There's only one Pull down before I put some Something that was the sprinkling over the top some powdered sugar If that is lame luke we like chad luke I want chad luke chad luke could be amazing He could have been the vehicle that really teaches Batwoman about how batman did things and how he did all the stuff in his techniques and Oh, man, but I think I did actually compliment Sexy luke I want to remind you both that she's the she's the paragon of courage No, she's not I can't say what I want to say because we live in But um, no, she is absolutely 100% not um, she's the paragon of cunt Cuntage Oh, no courage And then I like I liked it the other week when Look, we are talking batwoman now. I liked it the other week. Oh wait. We haven't seen it We haven't seen it. Yeah, right and she says I am hope I was like, no that's super girl. You dumb bitch. You're Hey, man, if you've got a lot of courage, maybe that means you have hope as well God, yeah, I just had a vision of dan and dave just like batwoman kind of forgot that she was the paragon of courage Poor girl. It's hard to keep track of that sort of thing And I want to hate super good You just don't It's not worth the effort No, I I don't watch anyway. I had to tap out but I mean I can't get mad at her. That show looks so good. Why would why would you tap out? Oh I think I had I had to wash my hair Uh Fuck mary kill mike jay and rich evans I rise kick jay Oh, I guess kill jay No, wait What do you mean no way? Well, you gotta know wait It's very rich evans. I was gonna say who am I marrying here? Probably rich Pretty pretty funny. It would be His name is rich Yeah It's but marrying kill is between mike and jay. I mean mike and rich because jay would be fucked That's how that would work because then you can kick him too Well, put it this way. Would you rather get rutted by mike or jay? Probably What if you're the one doing the rutting? And and I will say this even though jay is definitely the more handsome of the two there are some strange attractive paternal quality that mike has You could you could cuddle mike you could cuddle mike after a sec Mike I don't know but jay's got the hair jay's hair is just like ultra good at them. So It's so tough um So this is between uh, so mike j rich, um, oh wait I've been operating on uh our jay this whole time, but I guess we should be focusing on their jay I completely blanked that they have a jay for some reason. Oh my goodness Okay, yes in that case mary I still don't know if I want to marry mike or rich mary rich fuck mike kill jay I want to marry I I say marry rich right number one that laugh is the laugh of an And number two, I kind of think that rich will be like you go rich. Can you put the kettle on for us? And oh, yeah, he's just used to doing all the dirty works rich why you why are you there? I think rich would be able to be anyone's true love And then might might would just tell you to piss off So I can do it. All right. I think might would be difficult to love mary rich, I'm gonna fuck jay and kill mike. I'm sorry Oh, yeah, I think that's cool. I think that's the right answer I'm gonna Some about there's some about mike there's something about mike I just want to I just wanted to fucking raw me All right then Anyone jack come on e-fap any of you That's too cool. Yeah, they're great bunch Um carpet everyone also high wags Hello One of the few youtube movie reviewers that I actually trust and respect is jeremy johns because he talks like well a real person when he talks He does He doesn't come across as someone who He kind of comes across as someone who scripts sort of like I do quote-unquote scripts where You might Maybe he doesn't even script because he makes the little bite sized edits So maybe he just stops and thinks and then just kind of says it And then he like he he takes little segments like he says a few sentences or maybe a paragraph And he doesn't script it it just kind of you know comes out That makes sense. Yes. It seems more earnest Um as is it true that jeremy is a simp? Uh jeremy is indeed a simp. I yeah, I was there for that announcement. It was crazy, but it was true Yeah, that's I'm afraid If they create a new star wars series in an alternate all-female timeline, doesn't that set up an alternate timeline exist in canon? Including perhaps timelines where the sd didn't occur. Hmm Yes, I suppose It's it's all we have left is to pretend there's a universe where such horrible things didn't happen That's what we're left with Make the shows make them don't be a pussy make these shows Um You think you think we want them make I don't I don't know what to make of this one exactly I'll just read it. Uh nocturnal ejaculate saves women I don't think any of us disagree with that, right? An external admission Uh, what did you what did you say max? nocturnal omission Uh When you come in you sleep, I don't I don't know uh, I don't know we got that but uh Nocturnal ejaculate saves women. Okay My best difference They prostate So are they saying wet dreams save? Wet dreams save lives a good a good nighttime rutting Yes, I watched the nsg debate again last night. Oh not so great debate guy Why do I do it just to suffer also starts crying you guys gonna buy the tla blu-rays, right? I mean the Everyone should buy all blu-rays was the point. He's trying to make cheese Um Look i'm the guy i'm the guy I'm the guy that never saw riser skywalker and just watched your video Wow So you've been lied to You know that I made up all the shit in my video, right? Yeah, but that's exactly what I wanted the movie to be so they actually do know how to go up. I was just lying I mean, I'm obviously i'm not gonna be able to get away with that. Am I I heard somebody somebody's defense of it was well Emperor palpatine force lifted them up. So they still they didn't actually know which I need the scene where a dude on a ship is like look out the fucking window Wherever the floor is go the opposite way. They're like Oh But regardless of whether it's their engines lifting them or palpatine. They're going up. Yeah, it wouldn't matter Makes sense because he's all Hi guys, i'm starting to make videos and i'm getting ready to record you have a specific microphone you recommend I know next to nothing about this Um affordable microphones All I remember is it goes snowball to Yeti to like 80 2020 to um the The one that like the h3 podcast use I forget what they're called all the time They're like Well, that's what I mean like that's how it scales So A lot of microphones require the use of a like like a mixer in the xlr jacks and stuff and If you don't want to mess with any of that if you just want a plug-in microphone 80 what I use is an 80 20 usb plus an 80 2020 usb plus Just a usb mic no mixer. You just plug it into the back of your pc And you're good to go and that's what I've used for years and years now Oh There you go and that will be very high quality for pretty much anything you ever want to use But that is my suggestion the 80 2020 usb plus You don't have to buy a mixer for it. It is just a usb 3 Into your pc What about good? What about a decent xlr? I don't know. I've never used one Okay So I've got the uh the go xlr. I was like, what do you know you're a dog? Oh I was like, of course, of course, I should have should have thought about that before I opened my trap Thoughts on dead shot gun try out in suicide squad Are they talking about when he's just shooting the targets or Yeah, well, he just picks up who says well, you gotta let me pick this up Like, you know, he just picks up and shoots everything All right Yeah, I saw that clip. It was like, all right This is kind of cool. I guess I don't know. Yeah He's he's hitting the same point over and over and over and over and over again Made a little hole ladies Sorry Yeah Okay, have you guys seen the star wars despecialized editions first time I've seen the ot in 20 years shocked by how great they are Nothing else with the star wars logo even comes close. They are the ones I use in my videos the despecialized ones You can find clips of some of them in the YouTube and stuff like that, but uh in the youtube Yeah, but they're pretty nifty. They definitely kind of show their age, but they hold up pretty well Remember what moss Isley used to look like I didn't and then I saw it and I'm like damn, that's a fucking retcon Yeah, everyone kissing george's ass and he fucked everything For ages now one of them is like you got george back get george back. We're so sorry We legitimately didn't make fun of you, but anything's better I want the person who made george ought to come back We'll we'll accept the yes and this course and yes, it does get everywhere. Please come I'll take 10 gun guns over one ray Yeah, I really would So apparently jeremy has made it a priority to panda to the woke twitter crowd in many recent sins videos I found his fake maligning of joker to be quite revealing Yeah, it it definitely looked um It definitely looked as if he was uh playing the uh Hey, look at me. I'm one of you Little bit. Yeah, it did feel weird too. Like I don't know where orange orange runs bad It really is like a An obligation to not like this movie Unless maybe all of his videos are just that bad He liked the shooting of it. He liked the acting in it He mentioned a couple of other things that he liked about and then he just the bestest film that I hated Left us confused, yeah It's just makes you sound really really stupid and it's if you're being purposely Wow Hello rags Hello Mauler hello and drinker. Oh There was no halaya. Hello for us Uh, watched all your content three times and was never bored unrelated question to the videos to you mauler What do you say is objectively wrong with game of thrones from season five to season seven? Oh boy, that's a lot. There's all kinds of tisms in there. Um baristan selmie's 12 examples 12 baristan selmie's death was bad. The blackfish's death was really bad The plot line for the blackfish was retarded. They bring him back just to have him go out like a wet fart um The everything to do with the sand snakes was horrible Everything to do with dawn was pretty horrible Uh What else is what happens in season? Uh, the battle of bastards doesn't really make any sense. It's fun to watch But a lot of it's pretty dumb and really lucky uh Season seven. Oh the wall episode that's season seven So I could I could break it down into individual pieces But I think I'll just go for the bigger ones the the rate at which a message is sent from john to denarius And then back is insanely quick compared to the zombies getting defeated by fucking What what even is what is happened with the water? Is dead away so the carp pots would get them. Why not throw spears? It's stupid uh and then uh I guess the the the night king throwing a spear at the the wrong dragon He chooses to hit one in flight instead of the one that has all of his enemies on it. That was weird Uh, what else we got C season five and six for a member more of it. I like the sparrow storyline. That seemed pretty strong um Oh, uh tyrian going for a Uh castley rock seemed really stupid in the middle of this war Like he really wants to take it and even from when he starts that plan It's like why though like what would you achieve by capturing it really? When the lancest is a pretty much fully moved into uh king's landing just seemed like a dumb choice as well Uh, right uh, what about him? The way she just uh Yeah, yeah, I would wipe some all out with poison. Yeah. Yeah, that's kind of lame. Um Is oh the john and danny hooking up that was that was pretty that that's 11. What did you say 12 right? Sure, okay The winter is coming just doesn't fucking matter They they make a huge deal out of it. It finally arrives. I think at the end of season seven or end of season six and The rest of the show you barely fucking notice There you go Jump jumping. It's our gary new fucking So, um, yeah, there's loads more wrong. I just have to go and watch them all again Which I don't really want to for obvious reasons If hardcore henry remains on watched I will recreate the subway scene from joker, but this but Sub the three white dudes out for you dumbo's. I'll be Arthur. Oh my goodness Well, we best get watching that hardcore henry eventually then Yeah, that sounds uh It's gonna be maybe excessive, but you know, well, yeah, it's really up to him. So I've been asking for a long time. Mm-hmm Uh Moeller they called him a clown. I'm axing you in a Todd Phillips fanatical universe Will you give this supposed alfred leeway and buy the blu-rays? And there's top tier references right there Stay strong don't watch hardcore henry until j watches lord of the rings Oh, we could make that deal Why would we hold a good movie for ourselves hostage? Do you know it's good I've heard it's good And maybe maybe by that logic We're showing some suffering and j will then be like I must watch lord of the rings to put them out of their suffering Hmm. Also glib just said hardcore henry. Isn't that good? Oh my goodness gracious. Well, I guess we shouldn't see it Um, it had eight chambers nice tried jeremy slow clap I The most common thing I'm seeing is that it has five that small that shoots 38 specials had eight chambers Um, I binged for me. Yeah I binge watched all e-fab batwoman last week one of the best best comedies I've watched in a while. Thanks. Hola mola. Hola As wild ride, man Uh drinker mouth perrito rags Hello Yeah, I assume it's hello. I don't know. You never know what these things are you know My dream date would be listening to mauler and drinker read lord of the rings while I check rags for ticks and express his bum bum glands also high rags Hello Yeah Wait, never mind. I goofed have mercy on me. Oh, that was the same guy about the about the gun. Yeah I feel like jeremy would know the amount of time before being pulled off the stage for bad comedy. Oh Oh, shit That's a good super chat Uh rags poop with the door open or make response videos. We miss your can tent Um, don't worry. I'm working on a really big mandalorian video. It's gonna be big and long and hard Up up up Managing to actually lose weight during lockdown eating better and loads of exercise and shooting cans with my airgun greetings from florida man Hello. Oh, hello florida man The question whiz batman in joker is like whiz spider man in venom the difference is that joker is a better movie than venom Oh, where the hell's carmen sandiego? Where the hell is everybody? Everybody should be in everything. Do you agree? That's diversity, right? Probably No, no diversity means no white people in anything Just use comic book logic older joker takes a chemical bath facing batman and becomes younger and insane Oh, all right All right chemical bath solves everything. Mm-hmm. Who is your favorite guardian of the galaxy? Rocket are we dracks? Batwoman Oh my god, they are guardians of the galaxy. Well, there's only one galaxy left. So, yeah, she's the power gun of courage. It's true Stunning and brave Great cast hello raggoltism Hello, hi, baby I I said hello No, it's it's it's referencing as Oh So they said they said hi baby. Yeah, there you go nailed it. Uh And al he's not here. I'm afraid. Hello, mr. Drinkles. He's not here. I'm afraid I missed your anniversary stream. So happy drunk aversary sir poured myself a fat glass of luga vulin Laga vulin, sorry to sip in your sip on in your honor Hello, marblington. Can you give half of this to drink her? Sure I will make a nude I remember batwoman got hit by a two ton truck when she was on a bike. I do he's fine. It was really good Should happen every episode I feel In this universe All right in this universe alfred is former s s not s s Fulmer I like the idea the alfred's there he's like You will suffer if you do this again I Pogo the clown of wall street I loved rags reaction to the shell fan art source also ra has graced this chat Uh source for the rags fan art. I don't have one. I'm afraid I can't remember where I got it from I think it was the uh efap memes channel but uh Obviously, you couldn't screenshot it out of the uh the efap. It's probably pretty high quality on 1080p Mola j just entered the chat. Please fix it. Thank you. Oh, he's already been kicked is fine Back then also shops wouldn't get political and probably wouldn't care about protests since it's legal to do so I don't know if that's referencing. I feel like maybe the masks part. I'm not sure Say that one more time Back then also shops wouldn't get political and probably wouldn't care about protests since it's illegal to do so since it's legal to do so Shops wouldn't care about protests Well, if there was a protest outside and they were upset and angry and I mean, there was clearly looting and rioting. They'd be concerned then I guess the I mean if it was a bunch of um I mean as we can see they would definitely not be down with a protest like that that would represent damage to the business But if it was maybe a different group in a different movie protesting peacefully and calmly Then they wouldn't care about that not sure really Don't be worried about their masks which cost three cents each. Oh, no My stock Don't take my stock too many drugs ding too many cameras ding too many beautiful cinematic shots ding pretty much Yeah Yeah, people were more trusted later not enough cameras not enough beautiful dig People were more trusting in the 70s and 80s due to the age of Aquarius That's why so many serial killers have become infamous at the time The age of Aquarius the age of Aquarius. I'm an Aquarius. Are you now? Yeah, uh Oh my goodness Mahler, what are you? I bet you're cancer Why would you say this to me? Because you have a hard exoskeleton, but on the inside. I bet you're a big sake. I'm libra Oh I remember being upset because I wanted to be Scorpio, which is way cooler. I'm a fucking fish That's Pisces Oh, sorry. I'm a urn of water Oh, well caught with a ball Let's see what a query with two of us are a query So let's see. I'm gonna I went to astrology dash zodiac dash signs.com So here are our our traits, right? So first off we've got lucky numbers Four absolutely. Yeah, oh seven No, uh, yeah, yeah 22 No in 29 No, um, our greatest overall compact. We're very compatible with leos and sagittari Sagittarius is gonna hit up my dms with that yo Um, our element is air Oh sweet It says quality Until our quality is fixed All right fixed Apparently libra's is is air as well. So how about that? Oh, yeah, that's just that's just blown us a bunch of hot air That's us. Yep. Um, oh, it says our day is saturday Yay That's today No, it's sunday now for Oh, it's still saturday. Well, we started on saturday. So we're just running off all that saturday energy It's for fucking fucking morning here Um, so it says that our strengths were progressive original independent and humanitarian And our weaknesses are we we run from emotional expression Um, so they can't call it man babies Uh, it says we're temperamental. I guess we are then we are uncompromising and aloof Well, I wouldn't say that These are so broad anybody could be anything. Well, yeah, that's the point right astrology. It's fucking horseshit But um, it's a horse a query is born are shy and quiet But on the other hand they can be eccentric and energetic But they we are we are deep thinkers and highly intellectual people who love helping others Hmm, absolutely. What's that mean? Yeah Oh, you know what intellect you told absolutely. What does that mean? Uh, intellectual we're highly intellectual people who love helping others Yes, like if they want to know what microphone they should get Yes Yeah, and there's a bunch of other horseshit here Oh, Aquarius love and sex dresses a fish All right. Um, it says love compatibility. You said you were a what were you? Uh Mahler you were a holy bra A libra. Let's let's do a love compatibility match. Ooh Okay, let's do a match Uh, wow, we have So we have a very high intimacy and sexual compatibility score Boom obviously got him. Yeah a very high trust score However, we score very low on our communication and intellect scores. Oh, we just We just all about that sex. I'm waiting for you to make any decision in your in their lives And you won't enjoy my spontaneous unpredictable nature. Um Hmm, I feel I feel like this could maybe have some flaws in it Maybe I'm not willing to just jump onto that. You know who knows but Like imagine reading this and the summary because there's a bunch of different Crap here and it says there is a strong understanding between a libra and an Aquarius partner due to their shared element of air And I'm like put a bunch of fucking nonsense like people buy into this or people out there who think this is real How dare you it is completely real Oh It really is because of our shared element of air. There's a strong understanding between you and I If you are one of those earth fags, then I don't think we'd be able to get along At least you're not some water boy true Some fire pussy. Yeah, we're a bunch of air chads up in here Gosh people are gonna be so jealous of the air chads evaporating all your water So remember by controlling air we pretty much just control it all because we can just put air around everything anyway Well, at least the sex will be great. Mm-hmm That's what I take away from that. Yep That's why it was the first one they listed Was can you fuck them? And that was a big big w on the fuckage Yay Mollie you should release your unbridled rage for the final episode of Game of Thrones on May 19th That is one year anniversary of the finale I don't think I could get it. I can't get it done in that the amount of time Who would it would take a while to do that maybe two year anniversary The volume they asking would you take off your gas mask to kiss rags on the mouth? It's like not all kisses have to be on the mouth. Yeah And you know which mouth The silence is deafening Uh where I live they showed the original star wars with a live orchestra back in january So, yeah, this stuff is pretty common. Also Guten tag Hey, Molo wanted to let you know that the last airbender is coming to netflix may 15th And you should redo your review on it first don't know ever by the way. I've not really reviewed it I just talked about it And it's it's not something I'm that interested in you know, but but good stuff I know people love it and netflix is pretty popular already. So yeah, I'll work out Uh, well the movie No, no the uh No, the show Hi paparagu Oh, hello Now you streamed with sitch. Do you still remain inconclusive on the statement? Mola is superior to PSA sitch whim Do I have to pit all my friends and acquaintances against each other apparently according to the super chat? Well I guess I'll never know until I know what sitch's Astrological sign is true Peanuts boy, what are you and why aren't you showing them with the rest of the rest of the class? Yeah Hmm Well, if you want to come over and grab some Um Honey and dry roasted peanuts salted with sea salt then damn That's good. Yeah, he knows what's up. Yeah, all right. I prefer. I'm just roasted. I don't I mean actually when it comes to peanuts like I just like them raw I don't like them salted. I just kind of like them How they I just Just want my fresh peeled goobers Honey, honey roasted Yeah, fine Pistachios you like this Oh, yeah, Pistachios good. Pistachios are great. I don't know how to pronounce this Weirdman rags. We're in maguro zag. Do your folk hail from? I do not know. I do not know Uh, when is the merch still coming? I would like to order a skin for my naked gas mask I don't know if we're gonna be selling gas mask skins. So I'm just saying It's in Hungary by the way It's in Hungary. Yes, that's where the magi are people NATO NATO I bet rags loves his raw nuts. Yeah Yeah, um merch one day one day Thomas Wayne isn't the potus. He probably doesn't think he needs that much protection Well, yeah to accompany him while he goes to the toilet like what no why And plus it looks really bad if you have to have armed of security guards in the shitter This is true It makes you think like wow things are really getting terrible around here Like I feel like seeing the security guard almost makes you feel more unsafe because now you're like Oh, they need security guards in the boo room What if Thomas Wayne suffers from stage fright and that's why he's he can't have guards Because we're like Yeah, it's possible to the stall instead of the urinal You don't know that And then joker jumps up and says hi dad over the top of the of the of the little door randomly Hi dad. Nice cock. Nice cock Looks just like mine. We must be related And then there's this weird awkward moment where joker shows him his cock And then they're like, oh my god That that this looks just like mine We must be father and son. It must be related And then they skip off holding each other's cock Yeah, except their their pants are around their ankles. So they just have to hop out This isn't weird at all for me anybody who says it is isn't isn't experiencing life correctly Doesn't hate, you know, they're they're a bunch of haters that are fucking Like alfred like alfred alfred the well-known nazi And thomas wade accidentally peed on it. Yeah a little bit of wee on his on his very expense Oh, yeah, it happens. No no shaming it unless there is Uh, maybe You didn't think there's anything left, but then it's just a bit too much and it's like ah it hit the inside of my And he's like Now it's dripping down into the trowel And I can't get to the tissue in time because i'm still going And then it's it's on the sock It's down the leg This it's all getting ruined, I know You're done. I only wear an accessory I'm just a head. I don't even have I'm just a head. I actually knew that Hmm New products can exist for years before they're popular Yeah, there's a lot of reasons how he could have acquired those things There's no reason to assume ultimately that it's like no impossible. Stop it Ating women and minorities existed long before efab made it popular. This is true No, it it was a round we did to make it popular though. We are the ones that let everyone know about it A lot of people didn't know about it. Honestly. It's kind of crazy when you think about it Uh, is he mad that the film subverted his expectations? Oh, I mean, I'm not saying he's not, you know, I I I think there's some credence to that I'm not going to say that's the case. I don't want to you know, I'm just saying No, he clearly liked the film He just had to say he he didn't like it Because his friend his friends didn't like Yeah, that's cool It's like peer pressure They're looking babies You can't like that. You are not allowed Disgusting in cells Yeah, okay, that's gotta be a school shooting because there's fail Test goddamn yifters all of you end of test Oh A bit random, but I wanted to send my support slash Thanks to you mohler for providing quality content And also inspiration to stop my own channel with a long man critique of assassin's creed odyssey editing is very hard also high rags Hello Glad you enjoy and good luck with the long manning Uh Yay, raw is back. I did see him. I think it's because we're covering joker. He's a big fan of yokeer Break their legs raw oh god Jeremy opens his mouth. Oh my god, shut up Wow I think jeremy was annoying chat toward the end there They were they were they were losing their patience her neck would start bruising She was uh strangled. Uh, well suffocated with a pillow. So her neck should be Mostly fine, right? It's not like he actually Strangulized her People are gonna start simping for kim yo Jong aren't they? Perhaps jung Dead No, the sister right someone mentioned a sister. Oh I've seen pictures her like a few years ago face And now she's like white really white gaunt A miserable as fuck. It's like and then the deadings like She's seeing some shit I imagine so Uh Hey mohler, is there a movie you'd like you used to like but later on realized it was bad and didn't like it anymore Uh, I kind of feel a way about get out. I really liked it after I first watched it Then I watched y'all's video and I saw it again later sometime. I can't remember and I remember being like man. This isn't as fun thinking about how stupid all of it is It can happen it can happen Uh Another proof of your racism. Well. Yeah, of course you guys got any ones like that where you go I like it and then you go. I don't like it as much now Um Last Jedi when we came out everyone was just like, hey, did you like it? Yeah Well, there's this part that I didn't like I think it might be the one that comes to mind is John Wick 2 Oh I really liked it when I first saw it, but then you know You thought about it for Then you're like, oh the fights are shit and none of this makes any sense. Oh, okay You have to satisfy a blood marker, but you cannot kill anyone on the high table But you cannot not complete a job for a blood marker and he has impunity to fucking kill you if you don't But you will be killed if you kill anyone on the high table But you can kill someone on the high table and if you finish your blood marker You could then kill him even if he's on the high table because that's what they imply in the film It's like oh, he's coming for you now. It's like but he's on the high table And you can put bounties on anybody whenever you want Just no restrictions. I guess fucking Flumpy as hell that film Doesn't make any sense Yes Um, I'm a bit busy, but saw you guys talking about Joker I just wanted to mention the one criticism that is repeated is that Why does Murray have a camera at the comedy club when earlier he's best specifically mentions he does that Does what like place clips? I don't know I I could believe that they send tapes in just sort of like help promote pogos, you know Uh could be like minority report where a guy gives tom cruise a head start because he's nice to him What are we talking about? um Oh where oh a head start right right Gary gives Arthur a head start because he likes him. I don't know if Gary likes Arthur Well, I thought he was trying to say that Arthur gave Gary a head start Oh, but he never goes after Gary. Yeah, you're probably right. He probably means that he gave Arthur a Some time. I don't really believe that would be his concern. I think he finds the murder of The other dude to be abhorrent Yeah, like that seems like a really nice thing to do I'm willing to bet that he was just fucking terrified and that he didn't necessarily go straight to the police because he was so scared of dying Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think you just just run Run rabbit I mean hit lia made some nice paintings. He did he did from what I've heard there from very nice dogs. Yeah Yeah, it could have been all bad I think there's a little hit there in all of us a little bit. Yeah a little bit here in there Yeah, definitely just a little It's a little bit. No, it's a little bit. No No, it's a twinge. Yep Just just a drop Just a flick Just a just a little sludge a little bit Tiny just a little bit tiny tattoo. I have only ever gashed three Jews in See see just a pinch Just a pinch like a pinch of salt. No, except that was that was for science experiment at school Just a pinch of Hitler This one just says the arkanside joke At a bit of miscellany What is the arkanside joke? Oh because I'm from arkansas And you commit arkanside I could yeah, I don't even know what that is. It's that killing the state of arkansas You can't because it is a wonderful state that lives in each of our hearts. Oh And ideas are bulletproof or something He gets shot a lot and doesn't die. What's up with that? Who? The Oh because he's like superhuman or whatever Oh all right I didn't know what the nature of these experiments were Do you even read the comic the graphic novel? No, I didn't well, then you're obviously Got a little bit got a lot of hitler in you. I was just a little A lot better Instead of scanning for metachlorians you can scan over how much hitler there is My goodness this child has I've his hitler readings are off the charts I've never seen this Over 38 000 hitlers Don't let jacob kain find out because he's jewish now. I guess. Oh, yeah, he's jewish now Yeah It was important that that was established Absolutely Bit gloriously. We have to have this scene in front of us in a gurg I got to see a black jew though. Yeah, yeah, that was exciting At least they were wearing some PPE will on the subway PPE some penis protection equipment I mean important personal protective equipment No penis protection My penis protection equipment I don't know. I'd still like to have it out there, you know, I think I think it's worth the risk to just Flan it just want to wiggle it around Shake what, you know, it's it's gonna be unprotected Oh, I mean, I mean they won't be protected for me is what you mean They turned kim jung-un into a pickle funniest shit Into a pickle because he was in a vegetative state Oh The Popeye's chicken sandwich caused more violence than joker Corona sins Corona sin slash wins Mola, do you think iron man's actions in civil war contradict the actions in the first movie? Hey, remember when I read this out partially? I do or has the character progressed past that in the situation civil war is complicated So in i-man one The conclusion is he's going to take his mistakes of his legacy and his himself into his own hands and solve them himself Then i-man two it goes way too far and he almost kills himself because of the equipment he's come up with and the Wrecklessness of his approach Ending with like undoing the biggest mistakes. I guess you could argue iron man three is Dealing with ptsd in a funny way I'll also once again dealing with The another fucking person from iron man's history who's come around to be like i'm gonna fuck you up And then age of ultron super important for uh, he's terrible in that he was uh He age of ultron is the big game changer He makes like this awesome technology to defend the earth and then it turns on him and tries to kill everybody and so now he's like maybe Maybe i'm not the person who should always decide what is best for a Earth because I regularly fuck it up And that a lot of the things that the avengers have done outside of just me personally Have had a lot of really awful repercussions And I think it's time for the avengers much like a lot of military or policing factions of the world Come under some kind of accountability They should be the kind of power they have maybe shouldn't be down exactly to to the person holding it as opposed to You know a governing body of some kind that can decide hey Maybe we do send the nuke over there or we don't you know and uh Where whether or not you stand wherever you do on that He's still not in favor of like the government Basically saying hey, I am I go blow up this city filled with innocent people because we want you to You would obviously not do that but simultaneously Should there uh be some kind of accountability is the important part and after all the events that previous films Uh, it's perfectly informed that you would have a lot of hold-ups about being completely individual still And cap goes on the complete reverse journey He starts out being like team shield team everybody gets told what to do and we do it all the way over to No, it's down to the individual person should decide Um And I like how they conflict is good shit I got everyone saying team cap go ahead and become vigilantes Look at what happens people shoot each other into shit It's awful team cap. I know everybody's gonna be team cap eventually that we said For the people who thought we said jacob's dead. He's not Wait, when did we say oh we said I said he's been killed loads of times I think that's what about obviously Now oh, I was more concerned for a fictional tv character than I did the dictator of North korea Yeah, yeah, you know, it happened. We we've all been there. Yeah, don't hey, this was star wars that be going He's dead now. He's dead now He's dead now Look at that shit. They become they become vigilantes. Anyway. Yeah, that was the point They were always gonna be a vigilantes eventually, but it's good to not be a vigilante for as long as possible That's all cap was fighting against really Oh, sorry, that's what uh, I am unwanted The you know what's useful when you're trying to save the world from threats Not having to fight the world at the same time. How about that? How about that? Hey molla, help me launder this money. Thanks. Oh Oh my goodness From one massive to another thanks guys for helping me get through the process of becoming Howard Hughes don bless you Uh All right In the dark knight returns joker only reverts back because batman came back Yes, correct Oh, that that would explain his line about how about batman being the cause of a certain crime, I guess Even though that's not really fair, is it? Of course not. Let's just take the police away Because some people as a result of the police being there want to attack the police. Yeah Uh, are you guys going to cover patty willams again? If you don't uh, if you don't you have no taste And I don't want to be friends with you Who knows? Maybe one day we will if he makes that block mail If he makes that video about why, um, infinity war is worse than in the game Oh, yeah, we'll cover the show that that is that's yeah, I don't care if it's e fat bait, you know, we're diving in Since the b and o are so close together. He mistook the o for having the line. Yeah. Yeah, that's that's what I think happened as well Yeah Off topic super chat for later ever considered having a cringe drunk stream where you all try to read and react to chris chan sonichu comic I uh I don't think we we've considered that but You know, what comes That drunk stream You know what comes close to that is probably the fucking gotham high what we did coming soon Stay tuned to jay long bones channel for rags metal Moller and jay long bone reading Gotham high Nice rags gets to be alfred Don't say the whole voice like that No, I don't voice like a gay asian man. Oh my god. So this is a Asian a guest appearance by bernie sanders benard sundore Benard sanders Also hi there rags mickey rooney Oh, hello. I mean, how row do me a favor and yiff in hell fur fag. Oh my god I would yiff wherever I goddamn well, please I stopped watching four hours ago and you've only gotten through 25 sins pathetic Well, we finished it now didn't we? Discord update There's working days which have finished by time we've done this fucking podcast That's true Discord update. I am inevitable. I've I've survived this long so I have dyslexia and switching bs or ds or s's and zeds is very common I can still screw it up more than I'd like to admit today Yeah, uh, I don't disbelieve it. I just uh, think that he may have inferred that from something that it wasn't Um drinker rate rags his ability to handle liquor Well If he was a tin. All right. Well, what uh, I mean, uh a tin Yeah, that sounded just like drinker. So I think that was him. Yeah, I know That's a 10. If there's anything I like it's drinking Apparently I'm a scott now What do you mean apparently you're a scott now? apparently Drinking is what I do critically You've you kind of gone glaswegian. I'm confused Eh I know So, uh, beautiful Rolled an nh3 tank with five acres left. I am now sad I don't know what that means. Can someone translate? Oh, I don't know I don't know I'm super confused Don't understand the references you're using I need to drink critically. Oh my god. I just realized the drinker's right here. Oh my god Oh, I'm right here Oh the whole time can rags do an american accent Can you can you do an american accent? Hey, oh, yeah, wait, I'll be back just a second I do I do them in my uh I had to do a canadian one for my april fools video I did uh, I was trying to I think it's canadian anyways What I would just write accent is which is he does um It's very nasally and uh like that and You have to extend it's very uh You know what I mean, and you're just like, oh my god, so annoying About Beautiful I used to in my in my accent It's world and people always spell it in my comment section is w u r l d world And then they noticed I was definitely not myself in that video because I was like world And they're like, no he's saying it wrong Can you do any uh, can you do any fun accents? An accent of rags This is rags doing critical dreams. It's like wow, that's so accurate I think I'm not going too bad of a scotch accent. I'm going to pretty much go for it right there, you know There are too much drivers over I wouldn't see if you had it once a few times Well, I used to put a lot of rugby back in the day and that's a lot As you're seeing them quite a lot of them come from scotland So I'm just kind of pick up the way that they deal with ones and stuff Did you pick up any Welsh? Well actually it's a bit of a gay Welsh I suppose, you know No, like you could like it you could change it up if you wanted it You could talk like any kind of well see you talk like a fuck any annoying Oh, you could bring it right down like you're a fucking rugby commentator Oh, here comes allowing jones with the ball coming up the left field Here he goes Oh, there he goes. Yeah, you're right. Oh, I got back to Scottish You could do very expression at Scottish as well as though, you know Yeah, that's very true. You could be very expressive with it. That's true You could just really go out there Like my god, it's a beautiful fucking country, you know, and we're stuck in this fucking shite Fucking shite set fucking concrete blizzard and shite You know with your fucking chips and fucking herring It's like it's beautiful grass and green everywhere else Stuck here wasting away fucking ridiculous, man That was my German accent Yeah Yeah, we have we have people from all over the world conie feb and we're all like you're all fake We all know we're just putting it on I've been accused many times of putting my accent on No, I do I put on my English accent. This is my normal Yeah, but it's like I've gone to youtube and like people are just like, oh you're fucking Scottish twat Yeah So I was like, right I'm gonna have to fucking do something about it. So I just uh Then I decided to put on the the old english fuck Yes, very strong english voice Very clear It allows you to express yourself very efficiently Yeah, and and then you switch off the microphone and it just starts to fucking go back to like this at it Just fucking bullshit Relax me Put my feet up grab a beer and shit. I don't have to worry about these english fucking Then stream gets flicked on you're like, oh, yeah, welcome back Oh, hi. Hi, surely good Very very good to see you today Fucking cunt Wow rags missed out on so much Okay, I know hey rags. I've returned. I oh I've always got this twit Twit How fucking dare you You're fucking pussy Twitter the fuck says twit fucking speak like a man. You're fucking twat I want to do an american accent, but I can't win it. Ah, give it a shot That's pretty It's about I can I can probably do uh, I can kind of do a little bit If I kind of just buy you light there, it's then Karen waiting to break free You want to break free Break free from it I want to break free I want to break free Yeah, fucking poof I love freddy. Oh dare you sir. Also. I love this drawing I tried to channel my inner critical drinker and while that might have failed in a spectacular way I did feel the need to grab an alcoholic beverage It only makes sense I'm getting into character. How did you just say alcoholic beverage? What the fuck Ah, sorry, I mean I had to grab myself. I deliberate a mug of grog Are you fucking talking shite you are I don't believe it for a second standing over there all smug and shite What the fuck is this? That's fan art-like, innit? Oh, one of the arsefags or something Is there something wrong with being an arsefag? Um, you are one of the You one of the earth facts or something the sex is great though Oh Why's it got a why am I speaking Scottish? Why's it got a key whole mouth? Oh more of that's you that is me Oh my you have discovered the truth of it Oh, oh my god. I thought it was Oh, yeah, I see. Yeah, I see what's going on. They've tricked you. I know you smoked It's because I don't No What do you think that was skeletor? Yeah Yeah, yeah I Rags has got a cigarette rags. How can you smoke as a teen? That ain't no cigarette. They're the penis. Oh Hey Why is it smoke? Oh, okay So anyway rolled an n through n h3 tank. What does that mean? What does it mean? n h3 tank. What is this? What is this? Yeah, what is it? What is it, bro? National health service National health service tank with five bacon. All right, fine. I'm moving on edit the dark tower reload with joker's face Oh the reload I remember that I was in like the trailer Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's fine. That's everyone's favorite pokemon everyone's favorite childhood memory Transformers one is objectively good y'all's worst fears be well and molla hates saying yee-ha Oh yee-ha So everyone's favorite pokemon mines blastoise or zapdos. They were my two favorites My favorite pokemon is bat one Everyone's favorite childhood memory badges to train her No But do you have a bad Favorite childhood memory, what have you guys got? I don't know Getting sexually abused by my uncle. Oh I don't know I I lived a pretty wholesome and happy childhood for the most part So I have many good memories Um, I have no good childhood memories. I have one So I had everyone's childhood one is coming to mind So when I was a wee lad I played And like with this I grade school When I was a kid I was pretty small. I was a short guy. I just my my growth spurt came pretty late like high school Just that's just how it was a little guy But I I went I joined the basketball team I'm this scrawny little white kid Out there with basketball man, but but our team was great. Our team was amazing. We won like state tournaments. We were amazing But I only scored a single time for our first season I was always a defense player and I was really good at it because I would always harass I was good at like predicting where the ball would Go and people were dribbling it around so I could take the ball from the other team pretty well But that was about all I could do well, but I was really good at it And I only scored one single time and the team like made it An effort to pass me the ball just so I could score a single time And I remember doing it. I remember that one time we were I know where it was But We were Playing this other team We were winning by a bunch because we were doing good and they were almost desperately Passing me the ball over and over and over just so that that season I could say that I scored a goal And when I did when I threw that ball up there that was half my oh my god this The jubilation of the room the cacophony of cheering how proud I felt of myself was just Immeasurable to a child that was one of the most meaningful things that ever happened to me You know for a kid was scoring that one basket throwing that ball up there and somehow magically It went in the orange hoop that was mm just Oh I think you should make a movie about it. Yeah. Yeah Let's call it the hoop or something My you've reminded me of one of mine is this is it's a it's a favorite thing that I never forgot He got you know dodgeball dodgeball is fun. You know is dodgeball We were having like an end of year. I can't remember what year it was a dodgeball game And uh this time because everything's special. It was like each side gets one of the teachers It's like, oh, shit That's nice to get serious because they're like twice the size of us and way more athletic it and shit So it's like oh an hour side Well, it came down to enemy team had no one left except the teacher It was really good at this and there was like seven of us. I think And unfortunately for the teacher all the balls had ended up on our side I think it was like five and so we picked him up and we were like, okay He can't dodge them all if we all throw it at the same time So and and he was just like hmm And uh, so we all a we were like three two. What are we all through the he went prone and dodged all of them Then picked like two up threw them at the same time knocked out two grabbed another two through the two Knocked out another two and the rest are just like He's gonna kill him And I was so impressed. I was just watching like wow. You really just just fucking one. Didn't you? Who is this god? He nailed it It was an honor to be destroyed Oh, it was so cool because he he he saw right through our devious plans. He knew what to do I I guess sports are a big thing because I remember getting my debut in the Junior school football team and scoring on my debut. So that's always stayed. I think I scored two goals in my debut A couple of tap-ins nothing special. Oh to be young again. I to be young again I'm thinking I want to celebrate but we're like thrashing the other team and nobody was celebrating We scored goals And then there was I was in a five-a-side tournament. I was about 12 years old And we had this terrible group of misfits And all the good footballers from the the school had gone into their set teams And the club teams were there and we called ourselves the red and white bandits The shit is name The red and white bandits White bandits because he had red tops and white shorts and red and white socks and we came up against our um It was our club at the town that we're in it was our club under 12s or whatever it would be and then they We're gonna what, you know, we were expecting them to wipe the floor with us and then they scored a goal And we're like fuck, you know one nail down. Okay And then we equalize and we're like what the fuck we equalize and then they went and scored again I'm like, okay. Normal business is going to be resumed now and then We started got filled and somebody passed the ball and I beat their last defender and from a little ways out I twatted the ball And it went in and I got an equalizer to make it 2-2 and then I could celebrate that we were proper fucking Celebrating and then we lost 6-2 Yeah, but just that moment just getting that equalize that that jubilation Everyone jumping on you touching you. It's great. Oh When you when you recount that story you should probably avoid mentioning that part specifically because it makes you it makes It sound like you were you were happy about different things, but it's fine It's it's bill because I was 37 at the time. Uh-huh. Yeah Mm-hmm So anyway Uh, they also said that um Transformers is objectively good. No, uh, I need to rewatch them, but I'm pretty sure they weren't that great the first one was all right The first one was all right The door the cops point out in the moment he went the wrong way He felt he was injured by the world not recognizing him While it is really caused by him taking the wrong path works as a metaphor I suppose you can work with that Uh, you guys covered patricia taxon's video on rags. We still haven't and I've heard there's another one So, uh, we'll be sure to get them going just as soon as we care to moments Um, I believe they're about how rags is like the worst youtuber in existence and how I know right The other one is about how you can't be objective with us. It's like, all right Murray has the credentials to make bad jokes and people laugh at them It's the difference between Dave Chappelle doing his material and everyone laughing and someone trying to do the same routine At an open mic night. Yeah, I think I think that's fair Is this supposed to be taxi driver? Yes In that patrick williams thread even jack sainte disagrees with him, it's a little funny to go through Well, it's because endgame is kind of a mess Like as much as you know, we all we all had a lot of fun with it. Oh boy It's got some flumps tangled up christmas tree lights. That's the way to look at it He's released from his tics and neurosis because he thinks he'll be dead in five minutes I mean, I assumed that it was tied to his confidence and his medication. Yeah, I just thought yeah I thought it's a change of attitude instead of killing himself. He will become the killer His purpose was killing the people who he deemed to be You know one more thing on more however, it isn't his character to do something like that It also left up to interpretation if he wanted to be captured He even said so and his capture would lead him to Sidious I suppose that's for the people who are interested in the discussion on the clone wars It's it's like censoring the balls and not the d Oh, yeah about oh, that's how far we are into the chats now. We're up to the cinema wins video What a dipshit bled the blood on the wall lol. Yeah, that was uh, that was pretty funny That was pretty hilarious, you know, it wouldn't surprise me at all. I know right why bother at all You know, it wouldn't surprise me at all if youtube's auto demonetization actually works this way where you blur out everything but the head I mean sure I just think it's hilarious If your goal was to like protect people from seeing the horrors and just show a guy Fucking head with a big bullet hole in it. Like oh well Unrelated the last two episodes of clone wars have been weirdly amazing Not a fan of felonies new mandos, but credit with credits do excellent work. All right I'm related Sorry The battle from handle. Oh Oh, yeah, yeah Unrelated but I love the coffin dance meme The coffin dance meme Yeah, you know those four guys with a coffin Oh Sharing love for memes is never unrelated Who's the more annoying character rose tico or conor from angel keep up? Keep up doing the dawn's work and hello bob. Yeah, that's tough Because rose is so ineffectual and has barely any screen time That you could probably ignore her, but she is pretty fucking annoying. So Yeah, like oh just imagine establishing fin in the previous film and then saying hey, you know Cut him off in the second one I'll make one of our main characters. Let's just make him second to this stupid Conor gets fixed Rose does not so maybe if rose was fixed on the line, I would pick her for a less annoying Conor was good Leave conor alone. Have you seen angel? Yeah, have you seen buffy? Yeah He's an aquarius As much as you're very wrong conor was fucking annoying as hell I don't know why the hell you would have liked him, especially season four, but Right when he first started he was annoying, but no, it's not even when he first started He's all right at the end of season three. It's season four. He's a fucking idiot. He constantly gets manipulated by everybody Well, that's because he's yeah, yeah, because he's an idiot. Yep And he constantly gets in the way and he constantly ruins plans. Also. He fucking is okay I don't spoil too much here, but he does something pretty uh irredeemable In the penultimate episodes of season four If you remember Oh, it's been I can't he's a bad person is my point and it's we're lucky. He gets um Fixed it's great. And the angels got great. It's got the best tv show happening ever We should talk about that sometime Baller is constantly on the prowl for people who have seen these shows. It's because nobody's seen the I started love buffing so it's great I Didn't all good things is the tng ending, right? Yes, even though it's not the ending because I got the movies Well, it's not because that's a completely different Picard So to me that's where tng finishes very well I mean the film cast don't act like like in the first film Uh murrin the city she just can't be asked to do the accident So suddenly she's like coming all right all right guys diana troy if you've got any fucking the problem your head and shit Whatever, but you can fucking come and have a talk to me if you Don't sit in fact want it It's like oh you you sounded much much different in the series Yeah, well people change Yeah Yeah, you spin a bit bothered You spend seasons slash years on a spaceship. You'll change she was Nearly out in season one nearly got sacked and it nearly got boot season one And then here she is seven seasons later gets into the movie I think she owns the place. Oh i'm not doing my fucking accent Fuck it Well, if you can't handle me without the accent then you can't do something She got australian Yeah, you can't handle me without me accent. You don't have me. Yeah I hit you with my car I think for you would be upset if you heard you using that accent Give me like he'd say no no no no, that's what he always does Yeah So what's what's your stance on once more with feelings? It's fucking great. It's like one of the best tv show episodes ever Good. Yeah, that's the correct answer Yeah, what about the body? Oh god, that is oh Jesus Christ. That's one of the greatest tv episodes ever again. Yeah, it's fucking amazing Heartbreaking but amazing worse than the tower of doctors the last Better Oh, yeah, because it's because the great thing about that is it's so real It's like, you know, you kind of forget about the whole slayer stuff and yeah The show becomes real life for an episode Yeah, and it and it's uh, and it's really great and then even dawn who can suffer Um, you know, she has that little moment with her and it's just This is horrible even that little bitch who I hate, you know She's uh, she's not doing too well. So few people in chat. We even know what we're talking about It's fine. It's fine. It's fine. Um So this says it wasn't a joke. It was a message casual cruelty may have unintended consequences Don't do it be understanding of other people for your own sake Not sure what that's referencing in specificity What no Hmm Come on guys. We all know joker was just a zoetropolis ripoff It's true Don't try to deny it. Don't try to deny it zoetropolis It's the straight to dvd ripoff version Zoetropolis Uh, joker was wrong in the killing joke though. Jim didn't break even after everything joker did to him and Barbara But it wasn't he was well. Yeah, he was wrong because yeah, his target was actually jim batman Uh, he because he wanted to to show batman that anybody can break And uh, yeah jim jim wouldn't He wouldn't no matter because he's like he's horrible if you think about what Jim gordon had to go through in the killing joke. It's horrific It's like that scene with george c scott in cinema Where he's watching his uh, his daughter in a porno And he's like turn it off and you just all you see is his face You just seem just falling apart and then the joker of course shoots shoots Barbara Strips her and takes lots of photographs of her puts them all in this fairground ride Kid naps gordon torches gordon um humiliates him And then sends him into the ride and then he's showing all these pictures of his naked daughter What the and you know, who knows what the joker may have done to her as well Mm-hmm, but gordon came out and he's still he's still where batman came through was just like no bring him in Bring him in by the book bring him in by the book Mm-hmm the only killing jokes Yeah, I only hear good things about it. Uh, the only issue I have with the joker is how the wanes die There's a riot of insane clowns that personally hate me. Let's go to the streets where there are tons of them instead of hiding in the cinema So if they're looting places It's not going to be safe for long anywhere Uh, so the idea is to get out and get to an alleyway as soon as possible. Maybe slink a way to safety They came out vexed though. So I think there was shit going on at the cinema. It made them. Yeah, they were clearly fleeing. Yeah Yeah So I'm as far I thought it was really good. I thought it was actually the best Way to do the origin story or they're just all mixed in Excellent It's very good. Many video essayists are post-mod cultural Marxists It's all right then there are objective flaws and subjective flaws I'm sick of these xenomorph characters acting like aliens how contrived You might mean lying between great and pretentious Yeah, even still I feel like that's a pretty how can you call that a razor thin line like jeez I think he said exactly what he Yeah And it was just stupid. Oh rags. They're sending us. Uh, sending us these these these secret cryptic memes Don't let affix ribble have any prozoxo no matter what Oh, so Mahler, you're you're turning into this strange Robot, and I can't quite understand anything that you're saying I will I will I will have to say I'll have to paste it to you In order for you to understand it because I think my connection will prevent me From being able to get it through I see the pasting but Yeah Oh All right, no idea what this means. No, do I? No No Yeah, no clue good fellas equals joker robertineiro wore a suit Yeah Oh, no, singapore. You're not saving us Long live efap 100 more years. Oh, I don't know about that. I don't know Yeah 100 more years 100 million. All right. We'll try and record a few episodes ahead of time together Because I don't know if I'll make it that long. I don't know Yeah In david attenborough voice and now we'll place joker in front of the long man's den Oh, it appears its lengthy neck out to give a sniff It appears to be pleased with the offerings as it drags it back into its dwelling That's not bad. That's pretty good. I like that. All right. That's good. I'm gonna give you some I did I I did voice acting for two years didn't go well. It's really fucking hard to make it voice acting Isn't that what young years trying to do? Really Good for him. I guess we moved over to voice acting land that he's trying to get and I think he's got his first gig Well Have fun. You sound like this kid bad for that woman What up my ewoks, it's rewind time. Oh, yeah Botched in the same degree that epstein killed himself I don't know but they were referring to something that got botched I don't know. We would have been talking about all kinds of things about really bad. Am I actually Bad robot I mean if singapore isn't solving this problem. I don't know what would be But you guys sound fine on my end and I'm pretty sure that chat can hear me fine So if you guys just pretend like you can hear me Oh, yeah, yeah, absolutely. Definitely. Uh-huh. I agree rags. Can I get a I'm a granny ruining sheba doggo? Say that one more time. Yeah, six of them. I will hang on. I'll pace. I think so. I used to I might they want me to say I'm a granny ruining sheba doggo Kim is dead. Oh, but so is his doctor sad face Nizzle happens, I guess Come on. His sister probably hadn't killed off. Dr. Fine. He did his job. He gets paid. It makes sense. He is Is this true? That's all it says. It just says is this true He's dead. Definitely. Yes, it's true in welsh voice. Why are we here just to suffer? Oh, is it just to suffer is it? Why are we here? Oh, why'd you do that for? They butcher the English language and they take pride in it. You made me suffer and Boy, you're why are we here boy? Oh, just just oh, but they say but all the time. Oh fucking hell bet I recently finished the final draft script for a birds of prey critique Would you all be interested in watching if I sent it once the video's done high rag? Hey We try to avoid Encouraging that because then we're gonna get shit tons probably and then we wouldn't be able to decide how to you know pick and choose so Good luck with it I haven't seen birds of prey I didn't rush to the okay. First off. That's a slur, but second off. Yeah never ran to the computer Go and buy myself a birds of prey ticket It's a canine slur Hey, man, the truth is the truth. What? Dog shit that is right there Totally as I think your poop's better than my poop, huh? I think you do think that I think you do Open wait wait you you relieve yourself inside your house where you live. Yeah through a sewage system. Yeah Uh, oh, why would you poop in the uh, that's disgusting Broadside and shit on the lawn Shit on the lawn Help the plants grow Really shit The title of my tros review is episode nine an atrocity Get it the overall script sits at 78k over 162 pages and i'll be recording on my third draft of a part one of three Got some good efap references in there Good luck sir. That sounds like a hell of a project You are the longman once and incarnate 78k words. Yep. That's a long one for sure We saw a tweet, uh yesterday, I believe or today that Roundtable was shocked in awe that his script had reached 2000 words. He was he was like, oh my god 2000 that's like my intro currently Yeah, that's probably five percent of my intro from the tfa videos, but hey everybody's different Rags I didn't a thousand words. Wow. I know it's honestly like whoa just chill Uh rags, I didn't know you're into incest lol Sometimes you don't choose the granny life the granny life chooses you Yeah So apparently a superman game by the arkham dev was rejected Really? um Oh, yeah, it says rocks. I got a thing here rock steady once make super Warner brothers reportedly says no Well You can't make a game now that we ruin the character Is this a joke? No, this is movibob the best way to describe movibob I mean movibob is a very intelligent man with lots of incredible takes, okay peace You guys are also hateful Uh movibob or gta big smoke who would win the challenge gta big smoke I feel like if movibob is confident in describing it as a fairly small amount. I feel like he'd dominate Yeah No, I said fairly check it again. Check it again Gonna get your research right man. Oh god. Yeah, fuck. This is a fairly small Anyway, we're gonna do it. Jesus the main reason fast cook so fast and last so Is that there isn't much density to it I wouldn't want to eat a double helping of nugget in that time frame, but I could easily I can absolutely believe that Bob of the great rotundanus could absolutely just like inhale that meal From platyp rotundil on or something like that Y'all should invite movibob on efap just saying Do you really think we wouldn't immediately have him on? Like do you think they'd be even a chance to heart beat? I would love to pick his much superior brain. He's he thinks we're horrible horrible people. So Which is funny because his horribleness would not prevent him from getting on you Uh best crossover for any film slash movie franchises Uh I guess would the mcu probably be it like so it's pretty pretty incredible with all those characters Lord of the Rings mcu. Oh, is this like a theoretical one? Why not? All right, uh Fucking I don't know Oh, what about alien and predator? What if they did that in like a movie? Yeah, how could you fuck that up? It seems so it sounds so Yeah, and yet superman predator was a Superman aliens That was quite interesting because superman had to go into space. So he went away from powers were starting to wane and wane Oh What about star trek and star wars here? It's a so confusion amongst the elderly we have picard from picard meeting ray and we're like, no, this isn't You are the greatest jedi I have ever seen ray And she's like thank you. I know Oh I am all the jedi And I am all the trek all the captains Oh, okay Um Yeah, it's kind of hard to pick a crossover because I just assume it'll be done terribly. Um, what about uh Oh Conan and game of thrones lord of the rings and game of thrones. What a crazy clash of real is sticky Tisms with grounded and then fantasy magical tisms That could be fun All right Mr. Frodo Touch them horizon and dead space Isn't that redundant? No, I think they would mesh really well together Star trek and dead space tally tubbies and dead space Yeah, like I feel like like star trek and dead space would be fucking wild like how do you do how do they deal with that? Yeah, I'm more I'm more humbled with that than the event horizon one Yeah All right, there you go. We did it Fucking fucking brutal dead space and star trek So this one just says Mawla you're gay. What am I supposed to do with this? What am I supposed to do with this? Jay is a dwarf sexual also kick Jay Very true Rattle-fragile I decided to build an amd system. The part should be here soon Any tips for a first-time pc builder also high moops ski j bad Yeah, it sounds like you've already picked out your parts, which is a big part of it, but um Just make sure you assemble it property property simply your property properly um Don't get discouraged if it doesn't quite work just follow the instructions and Do what you need to do and enjoy your system. I don't know what you mean in the form of like advice Don't tighten screws too tightly. You know stuff like that Um don't force anything don't shove it in there so fast and rough that it breaks I just have to assume that they mean advice in terms of building the actual pc at this point So, yeah First amd always Someone chats in sonic verse the flash Hey, that's actually not bad. That's not terrible. It sounds kind of gay Yeah, exactly. Yeah, I meant that a good way So, uh, all what is your favorite mohler insult from his videos? Mine is carnival penis with wobbly dildo coming second also high rag is Hello Love me a good wobbly dildo I know with with being a brick a insults are just every day life. So you don't really process. It's just like Yes I mean, I'd probably go with cabbage. I just like my cabbage. It's a funny name for anything. It's a funny word cabbage That's a good one mohler. I know there's a reason we kept you around. Mm-hmm There you go. That's the vote for all three of us, I guess Well, I love bint when I do mine I do like it. Yeah, I think I've used bint at some point. I feel like I did Spike says bint all the time It's great. It makes sense. It is a great way Um, you can't you can't you're really cool. You can't cool, you know Rags you made fun of movie bob's obesity. Here's some money or mohler. Here's some money Oh, thanks. I was making uh, yeah, that's great. That fat's laugh Uh, do we need to change the song to grandma got run over by a sheba inu now? No, she got ruined by a sheba inu Christmas elves are the only elves where they belong locked up and forced to make toys for good human children. Oh my god Wow poor lego left This is locked up making toys for good children Just seems like they're just sighing not say anything enough to be like Why the fuck didn't your elf eyes see that these two parts of the train aren't connected legolas? I used to be a great warrior. No, you didn't legolas now making some toys No, you didn't legolas. You worked in it Yeah 48 hour stream telling your stories about the magic jewelry. No one believes your horseshit So fucking full of himself. Hey, this is legolas. If he ever starts talking about some eyeball tower Just ignore him I just I just love this this theoretical elf After all Theoretical elf manager character who's just like shut the fuck up legolas get back to work Shut up legolas legolas. What do you what do we what do you think we're fucking paying you for? Oh, yeah, that's right Now get back to work Your productivity's down Get a fuck off 48 hour stream for efap 100 No Are you sure you didn't come from sloth lorian? You work so slow The other elves would laugh and legolas would look down the other elves would have laughed at that That's I'm sorry. I didn't get that. That's a little elvish humor. I threw in there. So it might have gone over your head No, I ain't got that If efap gaming resumes you must add doki doki literature club to the list play with at least four people Yes, so you can at least can you get each voice separate characters? Yeah, yeah, that is that is some great shit that sounds pretty. Yeah. All right Oh, it's really no, yeah, yeah, you're gonna No, no, no. Yeah. Yeah No, I mean, I just I'm just thinking about all my favorite games can be described as oh, no, no, no. Yeah, yeah I agree kind of like which no because I'm kind of like thinking which which one should you pick which girl should you pick? I don't at the end of the day So just go for it. Oh, that's how women are you you just don't matter through the day Yeah, I don't really imagine just pick one Wow If you do plan on playing ddlc Do not look up anything related to it. You must avoid spoilers at all cost the game is much more fun that way All right. Yeah, I don't know anything I I hear people talk about it in this weird cryptic way and it's creepy So I'm sure that I can uh, I'm curious to see what's up. Yeah, I figure it's some kind of Yuri's best whole thing is an allegory for like the drug industry or something. I don't know Yeah, don't look it. Don't look into it though Had to search stream be long donwoks. Hi rags and mall. Hello Oh, hi. Hello there The solution to super rats is super chats. Oh my god Oh, wow. Um, I see what you did there. How about an e-fap on the ewok movies? I mean It's a possibility the anime ones man, that would be a blast from the fucking past It's a possibility low gray and the sun star shadow stone And all those those weird villainous creatures that kind of remind me of the grinch What about wicket? Wicked w work. Yeah, yeah And uh, t-bo was the other one. Yeah, so wicket Wicket's parents gave him a first-hand middle name with the same letter as his surname at the front. Why wicket w work? Yeah, why? Because it's warwick davis inside No, I asked about the parents. They didn't know that when he was being born in the universe Yeah, they're just like we're gonna have a baby. It's like who is it? It's like wicket Who is it? It's warwick davis So it's shoving me to a fucking third twat Also, yeah, they're not animated the ewok ones. I'm pretty sure they're live-action Oh, then we are referring to completely different then. Yeah, then that means as an ire We're talking about a whole different animal Oh boy, I'm talking about the live-action. Oh, I wasn't I was talking about the animated one. No, I'm talking about live-action one Oh my god My goodness Um, you should start calling the debates efap masterbates I get it high rags Hello Now the stream didn't come up with my sub feed. What the hell? Uh, what in the ever-loving dawn? I don't know. I'm we're gonna have to look into that Look into look into pieces of it parts of it It's not allowed in the sub feed for some reason. It does kind of feel shadow banny, doesn't it? It does. Yeah, but youtube would never do that. No, youtube wouldn't do that Uh, reading the terminator novelization one of the section headers was misspelled to read homicide division instead of homicide This is right before the terminator arrives at the police station. Damn all right Like like they misspelled it on the wall um How do you misspell homicide to read homicide division? It's not misspelling. It's an addition. Yeah, it just sounds like I don't know Homicide division. All right. You should just be homicide But they added a division they cleverly added the word division. Maybe they wanted to get people into math Muller and no mulliful veto say that's daddy's cookie That's daddy's cookie terminates into stem Oh, yeah, I feel like they're under our terminators into stem um Yeah, that's daddy's cookie hyal rag What what's daddy's cookie? I don't really know it just that's all I'm supposed to say that Was it a secret? It could be a super sticker Oh Ben 10. Oh wait, you didn't respond to hyal rag. I'm assuming you don't want to miss that. Oh hyal There they go. That's an important one. I won't specify why it's just important Ben 10 Oh, no, no, it's nothing to do with what the hell No, no Ben 10 versus green lantern settle an old debate I don't know enough about ben 10 I feel like if he has the mental capacity of a 10 year old, I assume he's 10, right? No, he's a hundred 110 The 10 stands for the 10 powers he has flight super strength super sight super agility super healing super uh speed Super he can Grow to like certain lengths like you can extend super he can grow Super super Super's temperature. He can be like cold and hot whatever he wants. That's two And super hearing that's that's why he's been 10 he has the 10 powers of ben Now I some people think that's my superpower See ben 10 made over a billion dollars because he could steal with his super powers Wow, that's a robot over 10 of the kids Hey kids rubbery he's fucking badass if you have super powers. He had super killing was a power he could kill people Super killing Yeah, no, I don't I don't fuck all of our ben 10 at greenland tonight. I know bits about Yes But but uh, I think chat's gonna have to deal with that one because I don't know if the three of us could answer it Do you put a vote in for ben 10 or green lantern go? Surely it'd be green lantern because How old has been 10 spots supposed to be I thought he's supposed to be 10 10 power well then he's a fucking retard so Green lantern will be able to kick his ass because it's not exactly hard to outsmart a 10 year old damn There you go. There's the final word Yeah, a lot of people in chat are saying he's not he's not 10. He has 10 powers A lot of people are saying that's 10 powers. It's not that he's 10 I hear that ben 10 is 10. No, no, it says ben 10 is 10 powers. It's 10 powers How old is ben 10 he's uh, he's like he's like see he has 10 powers Yeah, see a 30 year old ben 10 with 10 powers is going to annihilate the green lantern. Let's be honest But doesn't the green lantern have a bunch of powers they can use he doesn't have 10 It's a catch all power though. He doesn't have 10 powers No, it's it rings The ring operates through will power. Does he have super grow? I don't think so He's got super he's got super grow is up Somebody says he is 10 he is ben 10 and he is 10 Oh, yeah, he does a lot of this hinges on whether or not he's 10 because if he's 10 that my money's on green lantern What if he's 30 with 10 powers? Then he'll kick the shit out of the green lantern. Maybe I guess I mean like 10 like it depends on the extent of the powers So super grow means he's like mr. Fantastic Of the will power of the green lantern. So if it was like how jordan from the movie Ryan reynolds is then he'll probably get the disaster So we agree But if it's green how jordan for the comics, then We held jordan from the comics with gel horn Ben 10 k greatest and greatest bestest ever that was invented yesterday by dc comics then They're the bestest ever None of them could hold a candle to Catwoman from god of life Ben 40k Ben 40k Ben 10 is like he's he would be like a demon of Zine because he could transform all the time in the new shapes My my my nergal demons right next week Uh, hi guys been watching since august and currently watching new year's eve part two. May the toxic brood continue to be massive Oh god, they're catching up. They're catching up Quick make more you fat more fat more fat fat fat and then weird noises happened and we didn't know what to say Objectively speaking. What is avengers age of ultron's biggest flaw? That would be ultron. He's an idiot He gets to the point where he's in the internet and he has like access to shit tons of metal And he manages to put himself into just one area and it all gets blown away and he gets pulled out of the internet If he had spread himself out put himself into hard drives and little Fucking tiny pieces of metal and drives all over the world, which he could easily have done That would have been the really smart choice, but instead he's just sort of fucked it up And I don't believe for a second that that would happen And I don't just because fucking vision grabbed his head and looked at him doesn't mean he's pulled out of the internet I don't even see how that could fucking work. But even if even if even if Ultron jumped onto rags computer from the internet He would then jump into rags's hard drives and usb's whatever's currently connected And then when he gets sucked out of the internet, he wouldn't suck him out of the hard drives Would it especially if he disconnected them, which plenty of people would have at that point It says Would you really want to get sucked out of the internet? I thought you liked it here Oh, I'll go back All right It's all temporary Grab my head and suck me out of the internet daddy Trying it after I got missed last stream. What do you guys think of the upcoming dune remake and what is your favorite current version? Like a book feels bad man. I don't know anything about dune Not really. I saw the kyle mclacklin one 30 years ago I'm aware of it, but I haven't seen it. I've only read the book um I liked it quite a bit um, so I I can't wait to see what our Latest cinematic adaptation of old muad d will be. I'm sure it'll be fantastic. Yay I don't have confidence in anything hollywood produces just as a rule of thumb now I just assume it's going to be shit. And if not, I'll be pleasantly surprised and happy you know You know, you've achieved a lot when you went from a baby faced clean shaven boy with a Yankee cap and a face like so for making response videos into creating a first sonar Based on an outdated cringy meme rags It wasn't based on like first off. I don't look like at it all anymore. I have changed quite a bit and I think For the better. I'm quite a handsome lad not to toot my own proverbial horn but um Yeah, I uh, it wasn't based on any meme. It was just uh It's a nice isn't like good critter. I like I like dogs. I like shiba inus. I thought they were cute and Their meme ability was a part of it, but that's not why I chose it Too bad I haven't watched past efap like 30s something because you guys went off about game of thrones But it's forced me to read the books. Thanks for everything All right. Yeah I feel like If you all really want some spice for this sometimes dead just like your food stream Dead stream I think we're doing just fine It's pretty rowdy Uh, then please bring on jim aka mr. Matica mate I uh, I don't I don't think he'd be interested in coming on efap. I don't even know if he comes on podcast these days But uh Find a movie likes or maybe yeah, if he's if he's interested, you know, it could work Uh Anything yeah, I have a feeling he's not gonna care, but there's gotta be some movies. He cares about maybe who knows Question What is the fastest thing in the world? Answer rags in a chinese wet market What Though to be honest the chinese eat dogs So I'm running very quick to get away from the chinese Though his doge fissona is more dead than his discord server jk mate Well, he just said this stream was uh, these more these more life I did she was I I I think it's doing just fine I am oh in my opinion in my subjective objective opinion It's subjectitism Uh mohler in your best singing voice, please What is this grandma got run over by and I'm rags? Walking home from toneloks christmas eve you may say no such thing as objectivity, but as for me and efap we believe I'm not seeing that I was I even What even is It's just winning a christmas jingles. Where's the halloween jingles, huh? Yeah, where are those jingles? Terrible terrible terrible terrible Wow, so according to the terminator novel published in 85 dr. Silverman had a gay lover named douglas possibly duggy the abusive guard from t2 Oh Well Douggy was creepy as fuck if that's that guy So good for silverman Yeah I like my I like my boy is creepy Um Wow, so according to the terminator. Oh wait. Yeah, wesker voice complete waffle saturation Do you like chicken egg waffle flavored pancakes? Chicken egg waffle flavored pancakes. That's what they said. Yeah No, I kind of want my waffles just waffle flavored then I could put on them. Whatever I want I don't need to mess with uh with with the classics, you know Very true No, no, they misspelled homoside as homo side. Oh Sorry, I must have uh missed that when I was reading it. They're not homo side homo side homo side I see well That's a tad awkward isn't it Mola the liar steals your pies Oh, no What does it mean the liar steals my pies Stop stealing my pies Uh, a normal anomaly is a tarot based role playing game Fair enough Press f for me. I did the big gay by leaving a stream running all night. I know I now have a 21 hour stream on my twitch Well Cut it up into the most entertaining bits each of the Times you may have woken up during the night and done something fun, you know But you could put that in stream highlights. I don't know it's not all going to waste We do chief So I just realized at least I think That I can't get to the streamlabs ones again. I was able to collect them off stream ready for Reading a backlog or something and it locked me out again I think it might have something to do with where I'm signed in on streamlabs obs Which I can't change until I'm offline But hopefully if I do change it to the correct sign in because it's on like a google account instead of the youtube one Uh, it should stop Tissoming which it has been doing for the past couple of streams and uh While there's mr. Worldwide, he doesn't even know where he's logged into his accounts from he just all over the place So true So what I'm gonna do is collect them Put them into the uh backlog We got an overflow coming. We will we will we will sort out. It's all collected And uh, possibly try and sort them out on the end of the one we're doing next week. We've already planned um The next e-fap it's gonna be it's gonna be a different kind of e-fap. I don't want to bait too much in case it doesn't go to plan But uh, who knows what'll happen interesting to them as I was going to say, but I think we're probably gonna We're gonna lock up there. Um, sorry for the people who have not had this stuff answered just yet But um, I desperately need to eat some food tisms because I uh, I actually woke up and started doing e-fap it wasn't um Wasn't necessarily the smartest decision I fell asleep three times at the last pipe Uh I was here Yes, uh, so like I said, we'll we'll sort them out if not at the end of the next e-fap It'll be its own thing. We'll do like a one of those mini ones Uh other than that update wise tfa part three is coming along still it's a nightmare, but it's still coming It'll get there eventually it's a it's a big tism and I believe rags is mandalorian one is coming along as well Yeah, it's being worked on It'll be big. I think both of these will be very big large videos all that Pretty titanic videos to get you through But before we even Consider going offline We'd like to like to spill. I thank you to our our brand new Guest today, mr. Heel versus baby face. 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Yeah It was it was fun talking about joker from the two sides of the coin Obviously cinema sins being the superior one. He really managed to expose the film for its flaws While winds was desperately trying to keep up And uh, yeah, and thanks obviously to drinker and al and j for coming on when they did and uh, the memes And the very kind donations rags and I shall return next week on saturday if everything goes to plan And like I said, we'll be doing something a little bit different Just a little bit different. Could be could be really nifty. Who knows what we've been cooking up We'll be hoping it works out. It probably won't but what anyway So, uh, thank you all for watching. We will catch you next time And a good night Bye. Bye. See you later toodaloo ruin your grandma's Yes