 So, please let me introduce you Mr. Frantisek Algoldor Apfelbeck. Frantisek is a biotechnologist who arrived from South Korea and he's actually a food and beverage hacker and he travels around the world and learns and mostly teaches about fermentation. And today he would like to introduce you his concept that he would like to develop next year in hacker spaces around Europe. And his vision is to implement food hacking into hack communities and to move this topic from big corporates to open source. Please welcome the fermentation master Frantisek. Thank you very much. Hello. I will go through the presentation starting a bit about my personal history after what I have been up to. Before I joined the hacker movement, when I joined the hacker movement and later on we will talk about the current state and the future vision, which is for me today the main thing, what I am after. You can see the experimental fermentation center network which is quite a long name. I like to call it Chihiro. It's a project which I am talking, thinking about for good five years or so and part of doing. Now I am thinking about really trying to move to the next stage to make it happen as a major thing in my life. As said, Frantisek, Apfelbeck, Algor in the computer world, food hacking base and dancing drops groups, which are mostly now kind of supporting my activities and through which I work. You can see the food hacking base logo and you can see the page too. My one. Now next slide. Congratulations. Okay, so personal introduction. Who am I and where I am from? I am from Czech Republic. I have been studying biotechnology, molecular biology and related subjects on different universities in Czech, Ireland, Holland. I decided to leave academic world some time ago and I become interested during my work travels into the field of fermentation, which I enjoy very much and which I want to continue to do. You can see that basically the hacker movement which I entered through the noise bridge in San Francisco was very inspirational for me. I have been involved there with food, beverage and drink experimentation and later on promoted in different places. I believe that bringing the ancient knowledge of the food and drink productions with today's science, which I'm where I'm coming from and technology, it's something what is worth of doing and I want to help to promote it. So promotion. How does it work? You can see the food and drink base. Food and drink base's project started around 2011 with Nick Farr. We have been part of his Hacker Sonnet plane on the last camp and basically we later became independent. We are a group of people from all around the world who basically love to play with the food, drinks and experiment. We believe that all these things are cool and they should be part of the hacker movement. There are many reasons for that. One of them, I don't want to say opposition but alternative to the big corporate world, for example, our idea is to support creation of the subgroups and groups within the hacker spaces all around the world and come together on a big international event where we can exchange ideas, get together and present what we do and get more people in. Supporting basically the creation of the community, strengthening the binds in the hacker spaces and promoting this way the movement in the food they all drink hacking. International networking is really important. This year, for example, here at the camp, we have a probiotic drink everywhere project where we try to brew around 200 liters of probiotic drinks, sharing them with the people around, bringing them from different hacker spaces from Hamburg to check the public from South Korea and sharing the experience. Another one, which for example, I also got lots of help from the tech Inc in Holland and Art Marinsen was the experiment incubator where we finally have the PCB version of our control which will make our fermentation more easy and fun so we can control temperature when we like, etc. So things like that we do with fricking base and we promote it further, trying to get the people in the hacker spaces to realize it is possible, it is doable, you can have a kitchen, you can have a small biolab and your hacker space will not go out in the flame, at least not most of the time. Generally it's a wet shower when you over ferment. So if you want to see it in reality here on the camp, visit fricking base, which is next to the Melee base. That's the best way, I think, to go. Now, dancing drops. What is dancing drops? Chong Chong Mall. That's a group which we have in South Korea. Basically, me and my girlfriend, Unha, started continuing with fermentation in Korea. I'm there for nearly four years and I have to say that being in Korea for four years in Jeju Island was very interesting but due to a variety of difficulties, I am ready to wrap up the experience and move back to Europe. That's basically a big part of this presentation, what I want to do here. Anyway, we have been doing what I am going to talk about bringing community together, doing workshops and learning, giving the experience to the people for over three years there. And I have done it in different groups, which I will mention later on. And it was a great testing ground. So it's not that now I'm coming and I want to do a project, which I have never touched, no. I have experienced which kind of was hardly gained and I want to now turn it to the goal. One thing which I definitely realize having small Biolab production facility that would be the main one because we do a bit of business. We have a restaurant there, small one as a business point and now a Hecker's Residency. So if you are around, you can come and you can crash or stay for a few weeks or a month after agreement to learn something from us. Now the options are really wide. What I realize is that running a place like that, especially if you are partly reliant on production, it's everyday activity. You cannot leave, for example, for a longer period of time. So compared to the educational and experimental, having part of the project production is a bit difficult. I'm mentioning that here a bit out of line because I will mention it several times and it's important. Of course, at the end, you see covering living expenses. Most of you in the Hecker spaces are used that you have to get your job, you have to get the money and after that you can play in the Hecker spaces. Some people already have the job which I like and they want to do it from the Hecker spaces. That's basically the way which I want to go. I want to invest my time and energy in something what I like and what I believe in and I want to cover my living. So this project is not about me being on the street without the resources which was true for many years but in this case, it's something to have resources to do what I like the way as I believe. Now, experimentation, experimental centers, what is it? It's a wide, wide topic. I will go through that quickly. They are ancient. This is not a new thing. Since we are around and run around with fermenting meat maybe 20,000 years ago from making the Breton nation Egypt or beer in Mesopotamia, etc., there were always places where people gathered around something what they like. Fermentation are not excluded. More recent development in Europe, you know I'm sure that Belgium or other countries have monasteries from 11th and 12th centuries they are brewing. Amazing example, I think of community of people coming together during the chores on daily basis, accumulating knowledge, experimenting with great results in brews of alcoholic non-alcoholic stuff and sharing the knowledge of writing it down for the next centuries. Getting the resources partly by sustainability of the monastery and partly also through the kind of crowdsourcing or grants from the local fellow, the Lord or the church. I think that's a nice example and also again mentioning it's not a new thing on the world. Now, there are more kind of things happening these days to a degree. You have business, non-profit, for-profit kind of you know lens where you can do it. I have to say, I will mention probably academy because it's my background or focus on academy. Academy has happened concerning the fermentation arts and natural science arts around you know, let's say 1900s, you know late 1900s century, 1980 whatever sorry, 1880 and so on. You got people who are interested in the subject, they got the grants, they got infrastructure, they got equipment, they get great knowledge through studying the schools. So it's a nice setup from this point of view. On the other hand, if you want to do something on academy, you have to be aware of the hierarchic infrastructure. You have to be aware of maybe 10 years, at least I would say of career involvement and you realize that there are some things which may take quite a bit to develop. It's basically really hard to get in, to get what you want and you still have to be successful to be able to do so. Otherwise you get into some project which you don't even want to be. Now, other thing of course is that what I don't like for so much about academy, there's a lot of applied actually but generally it's for some larger style of production, corporation based and so on. I don't like that. I like small and medium production so something that I didn't enjoy. Now, in this way I was also very impressed by the hacker movement because when I came to noise bridge I have seen a place where you could come do stuff and share it, enjoy it and you would actually get a lot of resources for your thing as long as they were community based and shared by the community, which I love. So no problem for me. I like that. Basically I like the openness and the flexibility. So that's something that really attracted me and I have realized that food and drink kind of biohacking is something what is not done actually in hackers places too much and I really believe that it would be fun from what I have seen already. There were kind of interest and it's also important. So now if you talk about what I'm actually what I'm talking about experimental fermentation center you have a physical place. Physical place is important. You would have there things like experimental kitchen. You can call it like that or experimental lab where you have basic equipment for preparing the food for your membership dinners or member dinners which definitely give you some cash and also kind of you know happy faces for your future projects in your community. You bring people together. You will have some educational venue. That's workshop place. The workshop place can be shared especially if it's a bit adjusted with the usual group. So that's another thing which definitely I recommend. Virtual place. You know it from your space. You have some big pages. You have IRC channels. You know you have you know mailing list. So you are out there. You get things documented and you put it out for others to share. I like community run and community share. So I like the model how the Hacker spaces are run. And I think it would be really nice to use it also for this basically approach where you know for me most of these kind of you know fermentation centers you know or groups you know subgroups should be a part of the larger Hacker spaces. You know there may be some independent kind of meaning especially topical Hacker spaces which I would like to build but most of them would be part of all the traditional Hacker spaces like noise breach you know you know progress bar you know brimlap you know many others. And it's happening which is nice. Now you should definitely think about if you want to create some kitchen corner where you can ferment beer or make a cheese or something like or grow mushrooms which are glowing in the dark. Respect your fellow members I have seen a few laptops being kind of put out of service by Expo in the Cambodia smelly two-year-old cheese which you really love may not be exactly the thing for the guy sitting next to you. So respect to the community is very important because bringing the community it's actually one of the gifts of making food and drinks and sharing it. So you should try not to take it apart but bring it through this. So respect and respect the mother. You know whatever you do you should I think consider is it what you do okay or it can it cause the closure of the Hacker space. Like you know it's nice to play with the GMO for some people but to do it properly and on the lines you actually need a lot of things to know and you may get in trouble if you don't. Now next one. So I do believe that doing the food drink biohacking to get is fun and it's possible. I have seen this being happening quite often. Appearance of the Hacker spaces of this type around the world are frequent and through my work in Tastebridge which is so beautiful Nacebridge we did many events and got those people in. We did the same with on and one new masters in Goalway Dancing Drops I described now and for example Hectoria which I have seen I am not involved you know happening in from Yugoslavia so things are moving on you know I'm only in it for five years and I see it happening. I believe that the experimental centers should be innovative they should bring really kind of you know new things a bit of research definitely in. They should collaborate with bigger places like academia because you will be not able to do at least now some deep research you need to collaborate. Educational classes like you know workshops as you do you know Hacker space is great which can lead later on to the programs set it together or put together from the workshop no problem plus you know of course if the people are doing that I don't see a problem why they should not be able to get some living costs covered by that. Applied I love applied so basically getting these things done in a way that it has a significance in a real world is really important. So that's only what I'm really after and I would love to see some pilot production at least or at least collaboration. Now binding Hacker community together around the table you know on the membership meeting I already mentioned and extend to each other I think it's quite self-explaning. Now structure I was kind of making a job of easy to clean surfaces etc. air conditioning that secondary we can talk about it later and there are lots of things of this type. Place specificity it's important is it just one Hacker space or is it kind of you know happening in all around. I prefer the way when you can start you take the lead and people join and different Hacker spaces are joining in and collaborating. So rather multiple up startup current recommendations are happening now. What should be in community based open source I said. Documentation Friday you should put it out when you do it. Exponent when you in definitely educational when you in. It's nice to have some such utility in the corner if you want to do this because otherwise you are out of steam and cleaning. Sad but important. Residency would be great but may take some time and money and small-scale production collaboration mentioned difficult for me important but not maybe so much for you. Now what I'm after final model development. I want to create a concept basically then within six seven years I can apply. I have experience which I can show both very practical and now I am up to getting resources to make it happen. I would like to make it happen in Europe. What I need is time and to prepare. So this presentation part is my call for people to realize that I'm up to that and I would like to start next year to make it happen. So what do I need my main project is to establish community which is open to create things around the food drink share it experiment learn and hopefully with practical appliances to the local community around and also internationally. It should be sustainable financially and this model which will be built with the shared father international collaboration it's key so definitely in now first phase within first year I need to secure physical location I need to specify the program what is going to be done in the next several years because it's up to six year project I need to get resources sorted at least partly for the first two to three years I can make sure the collaboration will be great I am absolutely happy to do it part as a PhD program but not as a main thing just to get me a bit more organized newsletters, portals you know that stuff kind of you know if you want to do something structurally you have to keep it going and community repetitiveness helps this first year I can imagine living costs for me sitting on the house it's around 20 000 euros and I can be nearly anywhere hopefully less but I have to be realistic now what I want to say are the basic kind of mentioned the first phase participation on the main events I need to travel a bit so some intercontinental intercontinental kind of travels hacker space will be most likely in Europe this is actually kind of 100% close to working life expenses covered 1200 at least you know per month is clear 20 000 in the year base of sourcing and is what I get which is ethically okay I would prefer no commercial corporations big corporations and focus on crowd sourcing maybe some pattern I believe and what I like and other types of support now picture of Urekin base at CCC here just that you have a picture in the presentation I definitely don't have too much I like black and green second phase how much time do I have am I in minus seven minutes okay I will cut it down a little bit on the questions okay I still need a bit of time for this basically next phase the second phase of course is a bit more unclear because I need that year to prepare it I need a time but within the next phase is setting up the experimental venue and educational venue that means acquiring and building up the physical plates that's crucial starting up experimenting and workshops starting to build up the community within these places all of that should be happening within second year basically of the project building pilot scape production would be great but it may be postponed or collaborated with testing infrastructure running it it has to be done so kind of that's all part of these things of course the hacker residency something what I would like to have in because of collaboration but I would like to start to check within the next second year on that and academic report hanging in I can imagine the very first year another 20,000 personal expenses and 10 to 20,000 running costs you know the cost of record spaces so if you are independent from the beginning it will cost money if I have it in the record space it will be cheaper so you'll see and of course building costs that will be easily five to 25,000 for things which you need to do this total 45,000, 60,000 a year I think that's doable this is the second year so we have first second year second year sources again main crowdsourcing campaign and after basically grants patron etc second phase results things are basically running we are set we are doing things we are promoting within the location no time to travel too much outdoor location for the first two years of running really yet third phase facilities are really done you are in this moment kind of having two years to do it so first two years basically preparation now two to three years doing the stuff to get information get the all the important info out starting to collaborate international starting to travel a bit more you have to get you know research and things done and increasing of course the self dependency so you are starting to increase your profit or whatever ways you are getting resources it will be combined so you do not rely completely on one source or something external that's crucial you know the budget I think with this 35,000 that's something what you know with all the kind of you know stuff it's kind of necessity now sustainable development this is the final phase when you finish up basically this is your kind of conclusions summary you get your sustainable model of how to do this you put it on the paper you put it electronically out and you share it I think that this should be done without 40, 60,000 year hopefully within one to two years this money at that time should be generated by the project so you know the project should be fully sufficient in that time in that let's say last fifth, sixth year fourth, fifth, sixth year depending budget should be covered things should be clean and the place should be operational without let's say with external influence but in a proper way now future goals should be set because the project of this type is completed and should be exported out this is just a quick thing to see everything you know in the line you can see if I click once more this will take around six years I want to start next year 2016, 2021 I would like to have it done as really my main project I estimate between 200 to 250,000 Euro it will cost it may be lower if I get really good deal which this is why I'm actually here to promote and get some collaboration but in reality the cost will be around this at least who is going to cover it I have to find out but this will be the cost now project of the benefit that's for us to see in the years to come and I hope that I will be able to report on success within next years on Congress and conferences like that sorry for flying through that quite quickly but I got a bit out of the time so I had to focus now the last slide the thanks slide is just with info for you to see where to contact me and on the online world you know where to check with me my web pages are there www.Franciscoffabay.org so are the foot again based pages and I would like to thank Dancing Drops foot again based community to be supportive in the last years and the Adams corporation also the foundation which helped me to come here paying actually for my flight tickets so I do enjoy that because otherwise I will be not here I'll be not giving the presentation so please spread the word check this presentation give it to someone who is interested or who may be interested and the next year I hope to start this to make it happen here somewhere in Europe and I'm looking for places and people who'd like to be involved and make this happen and later on spread it around the world in your hacker spaces or independent kind of topical hacker spaces that's all I am afraid I may not have time for the questions we will see in a moment I just would like to thank you and see you soon on the 32 C3 thanks thank you very much for the interesting presentation and do we have someone who has a question that want to ask very quickly okay so you are welcome to come to the foot hacking place foot hacking base yes foot hacking base next to the meleways just pop in see the concept you know we'll be there you have been probably there anyway okay thank you very much and have a nice evening don't forget to drink water get ready for some weather forecast with storm or wind that might come and keep all the other announcements and yeah have a very nice camp and enjoy have a nice evening thank you