 We gon' talk, we gon' hang up. Yeah, she gettin' off on that more play. She all the boys, she all the boys she need to hear. Yeah, that's hard. Big shit, big shit. Check it, man. Check it, check it, check it. This is Unicode. This is your boy, E.C.E.O. And I'm here with the lovely, amazing official, Miss Jamaica. What's going on? You know, you know what I'm gonna do. Man, whole love, man. We got a hell of a star in this thing, man. Uh-huh. Hey, man, this guy right here, man. Every time I call him, man, he always gonna pick that phone up and say, man, you need me. I'm there, man. I love you, man, that boy. Man, I got another love for y'all. A little run-in' L.F. is in the building. In the building. Save, man. And I've been using that while the bosses talk. I go hard with that, yeah? I done seen a lot of bosses come talk with y'all, too. Save, man. It's been some crazy things happening, man. Mm-hmm. Like, we probably went viral, like, five, six times on some... I'll be like, what the heck just happened? Say, I be watchin' so... I don't know which ones I didn't watch. I do know which ones I didn't watch, but it be going on like... Crazy. Niggas be mad. It be a lot of them. And y'all don't even... Y'all ain't... I'm just trying to... Hey, man, I'm just here. Get it off your chest. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But at the end of the day, it's always a light at the end of the tunnel. We always looking for, okay, man, yeah, we here, but can we get there? We do look for that. But sometimes, I think some of it's just Niggas just bein' his feelings or something. No, I can tell you exactly what it is. I mean, for most entertainers, you dig what I'm sayin', I feel like y'all as being good interviewers, it's like in the entertainment industry, y'all like almost therapist to the folks. These folks come up here and they wanna tell y'all what's goin' on. They wanna tell y'all how they feelin'. They... Like, that's what therapy is. Yeah. You see what I'm sayin'? It is. They don't want it to be dry and just tellin' it to your barber at the barber shop or just that another. They want the world to hear these stories, too. You understand me? So it's like, they get it all right here. So I feel like it's like, oh no, y'all therapist. Y'all gotta start sayin' y'all stuff is therapist to some of these artists in these entertainers because they come out here and they really be like, like you said, they get it. They get it. You know what I'm sayin'? Yeah. Because a lot of people talk and then afterwards they're like, you know what, I didn't mean to say that much. Man, no. No, no, no, we can't take that. The latest one was... Pippin Ken said, you know, PMC, he had a tape. He had a six tape. We did not expect that. I know. I've seen that. I've seen that. It went crazy. I've seen that. Everybody picked it up and started taking it. He went to be out. He went everywhere with that tape. I've seen it. I've seen it at the address. He's like, man, I'm not tryin' to come down. But there was another guy that took the story and put people in those places and made it look away. So he had to go on Beehive and basically recant the stuff that was going viral, that was going viral in the wrong way. Now on my show, even behind them, they shouted out Boss Talk 101 because they say, you know, we didn't say that, but it's been taken that way by certain people. And I'm like, hey, man, I just give you the story. He called me that night. Even when I'm coming back on Boss Talk, you got me lit out here. I say, yeah, let's get it. Now I fuckin' with Ken. I've been fuckin' with Ken for years. Man, I love that dude, man. We talkin' to him. We talkin' to Ken at Big T. He was pushing the DVDs hustling, though. He's a hustler. He sold me two when he was here. He probably don't sell me two when I get to ATM. Oh, sure. We got the mix. Probably the same two. He called like that. Bro, I'm gonna tell you, if you want to say- If you tell him, go give it to somebody else. Yeah. I done done that for him, though. Like, I feel for him. Me too. You know what I'm sayin'? I'm gonna tell you somethin'. I tell you, the first time I bought that DVD with PMC on it, we was at the DGs. Like I told him on here, and he know it, and when we left DGs that night, I told him, no, I had a blue hat on. The next morning, I drove all the way to Tunica, Mississippi. Yeah. That nigga told me that night, he said, I'm gonna follow you to you buy the DVD. Man, that nigga was in Tunica, Mississippi, six, seven hours away. At the store, I walked in. I was in there doing somethin'. He said, I told you, I'm gonna follow the hat to you buy- Nigga, I bought that DVD. I said, you're a nigga? He's got a buck of a little brother here. Hey, hey, man. This nigga fly! I said, it was some kind of thing going on in Tunica, Mississippi. I was in Memphis messin' around, and I'll never forget that. I tell you that every time- The way that nigga- The way that nigga talk, you know that nigga's a successful P. He was fly with them words. I don't know where he get them words from, but he was so shocked. That P.M.L., boy. He was so shocked. Man, it's shot out to him, man, and like I said, we about to blink back up. We already be talking about it. We gonna get it, keep it going. Y'all gonna see a lot more stuff. I told him about the culture, man. It's like, I'm just pushing for the culture to keep this thing to where people can understand the history. Most of the people- You know, there's a lot of niggas like- Me and Bobo, we talk all the time now, you know, he be on the show a lot. And I told Bobo, I'm like, he like, man, they just don't know the history. They just don't know the history. I said, that's called, that's your fault. That's y'all fault because we got to show them the history. But even having legends like Bobo coming in here, giving you that, them stories, like he been having them stories. He could have gave them stories. That's right. Like that's why it's like- I thought he had to be a comfortable spot though. Most definitely. He done watched it. He had to know he could come. No, he did. He called me. At least it was the first place he came and did interviews. Yeah, he didn't go nowhere else. That's love. He got all the stories. Yeah. Yeah. And he love Bob. We talk daily. We talk today for a while. We gonna, we chopped it up because I'm a beyond, I told you, I'm a PmC fanatic. So with that, they could call up like, whatever going on, stop. This nigga got my ear and they go, what you saying? Really? We be talking like that. So, but at the end of the day, he just a dope guy, man that I think he's gonna go far. He feel to start his podcast. I'm pretty soon. And I just know he feel to go in. He got a lot of stuff in the pipes and in developing. And that's a lot of stuff that we're doing. You know, we really staging the factor. He bought to come on the scene and he bought to be a whole, whole nother outlet. Yeah. I think Dallas is one of the most creative media bases that, that people have. And we don't realize that sometimes you can't see the picture from being in the picture. Exactly. There's a lot of people here, dope people here. When you look at the Dallas global, when you look at a real life street star, when you look at what tune is he moved to Houston. But when you look at Big D the mogul, like all of the state cheese, TV, all that stuff out of here, man. And you don't really see that kind of stuff going on in other cities that deep and embedded Atlanta somewhat like getting like it too though. So you just got to look and see what's going on. But I think Dallas has one of the most demanding and promoting like bloggers and cause I mentioned all the blog got trill talk, no pill talk. You got a lot of people man. What's doing this? And they all got different fan bases that if you can tap in with each one of them, you can cover so much ground with them folks. Everybody gonna see you. They gonna see you, man. And that's the dope part, man. So I know you have been on, when you on breakfast brothers, the TV show, and when you went on that TV show, you know, we followed it up. We've been on there. So we're right behind you. Yeah. Yeah. That's right. It's a dope experience though. Shout out to Rick, man. Rick dope, man. So, so, I mean, I love the energy in there too. I actually took a set and interviewed him down there. Oh, yeah. What? I'm that one. The set was live too, though. Correct. That's why I wanted to get that scene. I wanted to get that whole scene. I said, all right, let me do you down here. Why? Cause he been on the show. Okay. But let me get out here with the camera. Let me get out here with the backdrop. Let me, let me get you on film while when our show come out, I can go and put yours out with ours. You know what I mean? Yeah. So that'd be dope. But just thinking outside the box, bro. That's it. People can't just pick up like that, but I got a dope wife that she got in my back and we can put the camera together anywhere. Oh, yeah. Y'all hustling. Like I told you, I see y'all moving, grooving, y'all going across the map, man. Y'all going across. You know how the movies be having the monstroses with the cart. It's moving out. It's show the United States and it's show the lines with the car following over there. Then going over there. That's how it's going. Yeah. Y'all going to be doing. Y'all hustling. Y'all going, going to the money. We was in New Orleans a few weeks, well, a month ago and we was with Mac. Mac just got off. No limit. I did him. And then I did. Project Barbie. I did Project Barbie. Paco. I did a KLC. But the most dope is one I did was Shirani. She's the one that started like Birdman. She took. She took BG's record and sent it to Universal to deal with P and baby. That's. And she's a store, the record store in New Orleans where because back then nobody wanted to deal with rap music because I thought it was too dangerous. It was too ghetto. It was too. You see what I mean? So she was like, no, what are you talking about? So everybody had to go through her stores. Yeah. Many friends. Four stores. So she'd been around for a very long time. OG. OG. Yes. Yeah. She a staple. And that's, that's, that was what we did. I interviews that too. It's just dope to when they embrace you in the city like that. But it's dope when you got, when you, when you go to get the information and you approach it knowing like the history, like, like what y'all even giving me that like she got these stores. Y'all going to go do it at these stores. That's what you told me you feeling going to do in the shot. In the shot. Yeah. It's like, where, where are you going to be at? It's just building that, that I don't know, it's a, it's a suspense thing there as well. Cause it's like, this is where, I don't know. I just, I don't know. I'm real into like. But you have to be, to me, you have to be older or a certain frame of mind to really respect it and really know what it carries because this younger generation with all these young kids coming up, rapping, doing music, they don't care about the industry. They don't care about a lot of stuff. But they'll watch it. If you embrace it the way that it needed to be embraced. It's like mixing a gumbo up. If you put it together right, they'll look at it and always say, you can't get in front of it. You know what I'm saying? Some of these youngsters, they don't want to. It's cool. That ain't y'all talking audience. You don't say y'all talking audience. It's a bunch of people that maybe haven't seen it. Like you said, the folks that when it's, when they see it served up and packaged a certain way, you can get them. That's right. But you know how you just want it being good people. You want to touch the math. You want to touch everybody because even although it might not be your forte for you to know where you come from. Know your history because as long as you black, you need to know this stuff. No facts. You understand what I mean? But some people don't care, but you need to know your history. A lot of people just living to die because they're not teaching it in schools. No, for sure. I'm not teaching it in school. You need to figure out how to learn it. But I can tell you right now, like I said, with people like Bobo, Steve B. Low, different people that have been in Dallas, they really love Dallas. This nigga live and breathe Dallas. I was rocking in Houston with Balambinio. But nigga, I'm a Dallas nigga from Hart, Snake and all these other man, this nigga is the one. Like he's going to be that one that can also feel these gaps where these youngsters can look back at the history and then know how to push forward a little better. You know what I mean? So you, we just need to go to work. That's what I look at. Yeah. If we go to work, we can lay it and show it out how it is. And next thing you know, people can look at it and kind of build from it. You know, I feel like they get all the information from the stories. That's what the beauty of that's what it is. This platform because people can come through her, tell a story that nobody heard before. From somebody that's right there, right there, that's telling you the angle that they was at. And then y'all might get another one for coming through her. That was there too. And they give you that angle of it. And now motherfuckers putting the whole story together. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. No, it's just dope because I'm one of them niggas. I'm like, Oh, heard from them. Let me hear it from them. Like I'm watching. I'm watching like you have to hear both sides. Exactly. Let me let me ask you about the just the boogie movement in the way. Cause that's where you came in at, right? Like how was it like that energy and that feel and do you feel like we are sitting in the right place since we've made it thus far? Oh, as far as that, that, um, early in on that movement, uh, I was like, I was like one of the younger niggas. You understand what I'm saying? Like I was, I boogied. You know, I was that one of the dancing niggas, but as far as like getting my music in it, it was hard. Was it like, I don't believe I had like a boogie record during the boogie movement. Yeah, I get it. You know what I'm saying? Cause I had Mr. Hit that on here and we was talking about it and he was telling me some stuff. Man, that nigga told me so many different things man about how it started and just, just the things that he went through, you know, far as being, cause he was coming to shop during that time in the boogie movement. So this time rain during the time of yours or was it before they time was before. I don't, I'll say, damn, how can I explain this? Um, to me, it was more so over, uh, junior high high school. Okay. I ain't gonna say like college pro or I'm gonna say college. Now I ain't gonna say college pro. Matter of fact, we keep on junior high high school. So junior high was like me, young nation, DMV. Yeah. Um, which is got like shot. It's a lot of niggas still doing they best shit. That's come from out of DMV. Uh, uh, DJ white chocolate was in that, that era. Um, it was, um, the GS boys, all Prince and all them boys, they had, they, they moved, but they got in on the main screen. Yeah, they moved in, yeah. We was all on the ground with it. We were doing, um, holding walls, the club getting shot up. Yeah. We run around, you know what I mean? Doing every, every, doing the chilling circuit. Was that right? Anytime. What, what? No, that was, that was, this is, um, a little bit after rag daddy time. Um, a nigga done plenty of shows at rag daddy time. Both of them. So this was before, you know, cause we had rainwater on here. So rainwater talk about a Hawaii trip that he was taking. Yeah. This was, this was, all this stuff like that. So he said he took a lot of people. He did that. He did that. So he did reach out to you too? No, no, no. See, this is what I'm trying to tell you. So it was on your high side of this. He was younger. And then you had the high school side of this, which you had your Trillie, Prince Briggs. Yeah. That's how I hit that. All that shit like that. Your young T's. You had, uh, the Rose doing his best. Yeah. Uh, God, it's so much. Y'all, I'm on the spot. Party boy. Party boy. Yeah. Niggas going to be mad at me. I don't care though, cause it's. I miss those days. I miss those days. I miss those days. Damn D had that. Yeah. She did. Me out in the middle of that. Like we, we were sneaking in the club. You know what I'm saying? We were sneaking in. I was sneaking in the club. Papa Rose, like her grandma, grandma DJ shit. Come on. Come on. Type shit. Like that's how I was getting in there hearing this shit. Yeah. Like even just learning, learning how to make the music that was just a little bit more mature. Cause I was already having my way. Like everybody that was in the junior high shit. We was, we was already analytically, if you would have got them, like I always love to say simulate our lives in that next two years, we was going to be in position anyway. Cause we was working our ass off and all the kids that, that was around us at the time there was our age, they was turning 18, 19. We was going to be the ones in the club. So now you're going to have to play us. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? They're going to be requesting this shit. Like they ain't, they, they ain't in the clubs right now. They out here at these house parties and these, these little team events playing our shit. They not playing that grown shit. You understand what I'm saying? So it just kind of translated over. That's why I say it was more so up trust in the process and it grew with it. But even with that, I was on the low side of that. Yeah. I wouldn't know. I never, I don't feel like I was ever pushed to the forefront of none of that shit. Yeah. Yeah. I think people just noticed like this nigga is swimming through every water. He just, he won't go away. No, thanks. And I think that's dope because that's what built a nasty and strength to be honest with you. No, thanks. Cause it was just more so, it was frustration. You know, you, when you know, you dope. Did you? And it's just more so a thing of you have to understand, like what I was learning during that time was more so understanding the game and just where I was at the time. You never was frustrated to a point of where you was going to give it up. No. I, I, in my mind, I ain't never. You was always, I ain't never been a quitter. I lie and be like, yeah, long line. But you know, that's, that's just to get people talking. That's to get the algorithm going. You didn't understand. Yeah. Yeah. But that's like those people who talk about, oh, I'm retiring and then come right back around. I didn't do that. I didn't do that. I'm telling you like, but, but what it does is the people that don't want you to go, you get that love. You know what I'm saying? You might need that that day. I need it that day. Everybody like, yeah, no, you'd be like, you, people will step up and speak. I don't, I don't, it's just, I don't. You'll never normally even talk. Yeah. They never talk and then be the people that you need to see, not the people that's around you every day. Like, all right. I always tell people all the time, like monetize everybody around you. When you see that everybody around you ain't making your ends meet. You got to go get, you got to build that fan base. You inspired Jim Money to grade this little dude. He talked about you like, man, this dude, you really inspired him in Waco, you know, and he did, he just did High Boy West. It's my dog. He did High Boy West Boosie, a song. But, but I'll be looking at, I'll be like, man, you know, cause he, when I met him, I was through you when he came here and he, just the way that he respected you and your movement and how he talked about it. He was like, man, man, I fell in love when I seen running at the school. You know, this is the stuff that I hold on to. Yeah. That's the stuff I hear. I'm like, that's dope, man. Cause that was, and I look what it sparked in him. But shit, I took shit from Gio at the time, like at the time that I met Gio, Gio had a, his manager name was Big Philly. Like now I'm giving you all these good stories now. You know what I'm saying? He had a manager name Big Philly at the time and Big Philly is a graphic designer. Okay. And Giovanni, he always been good with the cameras and whatnot. He got there from Big Philly. That's why he shoot videos and whatnot. Okay. Okay. So his look was always on a hundred. Yeah. I'm like, all right. I ain't never heard a song from this nigga. But this nigga. He look like a star. It's there. Like, you know what I'm saying? Even just as far as the presentation. Right. So just me tapping in and locking in with him. I'm like, hey, what you doing? He's like, oh, I'm using Photoshop. He'll tell you. I'm like, what programs you recording on? I'm a learner. You learned it. You understand what I'm saying? Like with me, he probably just saw talent. Yeah. Yeah. But see, I just, I'm a hustler. So I'm looking around always trying to build what I got. Elevate. You know what I'm saying? Like, like that's like some more podcasts that's coming here right now. And they sit back in the cut and don't learn nothing. That's great. And they growing. They just sitting over there and they falling instead of looking around, coming over here, trying to see what programs you recording to get the mic in. You understand me? What? What? That's me though. Yeah. That's how I always been. That's like, still to this day, I'm a learner. Like every day I want to learn something new. That's why I said some parents will call their kids and like, ooh, you nosy. But it's not really that you nosy. You're eager for information no matter what information it is. You're eager to learn. Yeah. That's why it's called research. You got to go search it. You got to go search for this shit. Like if you not searching, it ain't just going to fall on your lap. So when them songs first hit the, shake them haters off. What was that? What was the my duggies? All these different songs then yours. Throw that ass in the circle, man. Where was your mindset at when that song hit like that? I'm just thinking about the bangers that come out of the city. You know what I'm saying? My mindset at the time, I was in, actually I was in Atlanta when I dropped the circle. Okay. And I was doing some shit with, you know, labels, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That was my first real taste of some label shit. And just, it was just weird. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? It was weird. My fucker got me there. You can ask, Mike Fresh was there. Lil' Zach the DJ, he was there. Like these folks can vouch. And these folks, these folks, I got in the room with these folks. And these folks wanted me to make a cowboy torx home. No. So I'm talented enough to do it, but it's still like, it was like pulling teeth. You dig what I'm saying? It just wasn't, it wasn't natural. It wasn't a jammer. It wasn't, it wasn't what I was on. I was on some young wow, like I say wow, outlandish shit. Like I'm more of a, I'll catch you off guard with my bars. You feel what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. Like I'm used comedy. I'm just, I just be me on my records. Yeah. So it was more so it was a forceful thing. And it was terrible. And I ain't want to meet with no more labels. You didn't want to meet with them no more. Cause I had just dropped circle. I'm sitting there telling them like why we in here trying to make new records? Well, y'all can take this motherfucker. And I appreciate it. But I'm glad they didn't. Cause with it taking an independent route, what it did was it slow, it slowly grew. And it slowly grew. It got bigger and bigger and bigger. It goes viral every month. Right now. Right now. It's a, what it's a crack head and Milwaukee dancing in mud. Right now, this weekend went viral. Two days ago, Haley and Chloe Bailey is skating on a Tik Tok to it. Like it's just, it happens. Like it's one of them things where it's one of God's gifts to me. You stay on social media every day looking to see who is taking it viral or you get notifications. They tagging me. They tagging. Yeah, they tagging me. That's love. I literally just got to the point where I follow somebody that ain't following me. I never was for that. I just never was for it. Like I just never was for it. Like, you know what I'm saying? I like to have a relationship. You know what I mean? Like I feel like it's not necessary. Like I can be a fan of you and go to your page and go off your page. Yeah, yeah. But I don't have to be. Probably I don't need you on my timeline and you're ignoring the nigga all day. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's why I don't ignore none of my people and shit like that because I know how I feel to just be another comment. Man, that's probably why you like Pimping Ken because he say he, what do you say? He holly hood. Yeah. Even though he be with some of the biggest people and he can send me these texts and show me these things, he still, he out here with the comment everyday man because he knows that that means something. These are people that really he locked in. And the only difference between you and the common person is a mindset. It's nothing physical, it's nothing that will keep, like that's why I'm like, man, I can't treat people fucked up because I'm in a better position because it's like that's just my mindset put me here. They had that same mindset. They can be here. You see what I'm saying? What's the craziest thing ever happened to you as far as a fan, something that we don't have to be crazy. It could be something sentimental too. Craziest thing ever happened to me. A fan. Damn. Pulled you off stage. I didn't got pulled off stage plenty of times. Like I didn't got my drawers pulled off me on stage. Seriously. It's on YouTube. It's on YouTube. They pulled my whole booty out. Pulled my whole booty out. They try to get to you. They try to get to me. That was when I had my hot top. That was in the younger days. Oh yeah. You were loving it. You were talking. My people was like stop getting so goddamn close to the stage. Like now you don't feel this love. Got to get it. That's all you have people pulling at you. That's dope, man. So what's your love? You got to feel that. Like that's one of the things that as an artist you want to feel that. Anybody ever fainted yet? I hope not. I ain't never seen it. I ain't never seen it. I don't have people cry. I don't get it. I ain't mad at it. Because they love you. I don't get it. You don't get it. I don't get it. I don't get it. But you know I respect you. I respect you. Let me tell you. I heard a story. And I'm not going to say which artist this happened to. But I was told that this artist had a stalker. This is how it was. So he wasn't at home. He had security and all of that. This chick went through the mud. Got up to his house. Broke the window. So she didn't come through the front door. She broke the window. Broke the window. Broke the window. Broke the window. Broke the window. Broke the window. Broke the window. Broke the window. Broke the window. Broke the window. Broke the window. Broke the window. Broke the window. Broke the window. Broke the window. Broke the window. Broke the window. Broke the window. Broke the window. Broke the window. Broke the window. Broke the window. Broke the window. Broke the window. Broke the window. Broke the window. Broke the window. Broke the window. Broke the window. Broke the window. You have a fan, that's what he's like. That's not a fandom on it. You know, you crossed that line. You're a threat. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're a threat. You know, you, you know, you, you, you've breached. You've breached, you've breached security. Yeah, you've breached security at this point. And I feel like you gotta, you gotta, you know. My family in here, for sure. I don't play like that. Even, even before I was in a position and having a family and things of that nature, I couldn't, I don't believe it would work like that with me. No. I don't, I don't know. I feel like the police would be coming to pick somebody up. But not like that. Like you in my house already. I ain't there. You in there. You have some drainage. You startled me. You startled me when I got there. That was crazy, man. I done walked in and, and, and these bros and shit, I gotta pick up bros and shit. What the hell is this? There's no coming to America. She lucky for you. You know, you know, that's weird. I got, I got more bookers that got my names, had it on them that I ain't never even. And your face and all that, but. Yeah. Yeah. It's just come for you. It's crazy. It's really crazy. Here, here I am again. I ain't mad at it, but I wouldn't have done that. And if I could have talked to them before they did that, I would have told them not to do it. Don't do it. Not to do it. You know what I'm saying? That just me being the type of guy I am, you know, I'm not, I feel like that. I feel like in order to be an artist, what I've been watching here lately is, um, they make it to where you gotta be like a narcissist. Like you gotta just like be about you, you, you, you. Like that shit is draining when I, when I see certain people and they just always talking about them and they don't even be really nothing going on. It's like you trying to, you're trying to force yourself to like yourself. That, that might be real though, because, you know, a lot of times people, like when I give people advice, I give them advice, not just for them, but really for me. So a lot of times when people are in the mirror or on social media talking about themselves, it's really because they don't like themselves because a lot of artists go through a lot of pressure. A lot of, um, to stay on top. Yeah. And some people do give in and put their morals to the side and just do whatever just to stay on top. That's one thing I can applaud you for because you don't ever follow the masses. I can't. My mama didn't raise me like that. I can't. I love the fact that you don't do that. I see how you move with, you know, your kids, family, everything like that. That's, that's the world to you, right? That's the world. That's, that's all that really matter to me. Mm. You know what I'm saying? What's that guy named? I was looking for it. The one that just died because he was at this girl's house. What is this? Man, recipe trouble. Trouble, yeah. That was it. I was hearing the story and that's, I thought about when you said they broke in the house but this was the thing where this girl had a person or something the way it came. But I just. But they weren't together. But they weren't together. Right. She broke up with him like seven days before. I say this all the time. A week. When you're in the country, like I don't, I go to the country, right? Remember how you sell clothes? I be in the country, man. I be hustling. I never would talk to these people, women out in the country like that because let me tell you something, man. It's dudes that like women, even though they wasn't together. It's dudes that like women. When you come to that country and they ain't seen you, they already go with that woman in their mind. And it, cause there ain't nobody else there. Dog, when I go to country town for the past 10 years, you come in the country town, they appreciate you. They do first off. Everybody appreciates you for being there. But you got them haters. That's like, man, fuck this. I don't like that nigga, man. Even coming in here, everybody, look at that. Cause this they town. This they town. So, you know, we play on their mind. We, I see the niggas, hey, come on, come on, printing. Take this box. That's it. Show them love. We gonna show you love. We gonna, we gonna, we gonna counter that with some love. That's real. Cause at the end of the day, I don't want nothing here. No. I'm just coming. I'm going to go back home. Be folks, enjoy yourself tonight. That's it. I don't want your old lady. They be thinking that in their mind. What you just said in their mind, they know you fly. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Maybe they're all looking at you. They know you fly. That's what's going on. But it's like, man, what's the reality? This is what I want. Like, if I can have a quick, come back here, talk to me real quick. It'll be 30 seconds. What's the reality of me taking your girl, making her my move of Dallas, move my girl out the house, move, kicking kids out the house, change my whole life for your girl right here in this town. I don't even know what she do. Don't know her name. How would I do that? Bro, this your girl. Exactly. You know what I'm saying? This your girl. Now, one of my potters won't smash from her and she gonna push up like that's me. Hey, man. That ain't me. See y'all, that's the girl. You know what I'm saying? I don't want her. It's too much of a hazard to you understand me. Like, I was always like, we're really like that on the road too. Like coming up, just dealing with women. Like, I don't know none of y'all. You know, periodically from trouble, going back down, it been more. It's been a lot more. More three. More three, but it's been more. It's been a lot more. You got the great, all these boys, but you got different people in there. That little boy that killed himself up here. This in hip hop, is it because it's more it rappers now or something? It seemed like, it almost seemed like they're targeted for evil or something bad happening. You understand what I'm saying? Because all the genres don't suffer from it. It's got a lot more rappers now too though, little runny. I wouldn't say that. The reason I would say a lot of genres don't suffer from it is, well other genres do suffer from it, but when they start to die be overdoses or that nature, like something they did to die self. A lot of these artists, they get into a position and they one foot in, one foot out. And what I mean by that is, or they people still learn. So they in the streets still. At the end of the day, I personally know what music money look like. You understand what I'm saying? I know how long it take to come. The real, you know who getting it. You can see who booked, if they ain't posting no flyers they not booked. They're not booked like that. You understand what I mean? If they doing shows and they ain't posting no flyers they own it, they not getting paid for that show. So they hustling at that point. So everything is, they spending money. Even if they got it, they spending it. You see what I'm saying? And a lot of these people not having these things, they just not having that, they not having that security. You see what I'm saying? Do they only make a lot of money from book shows or can they make a lot of money from other avenues in music? I mean, if you're some streaming, you booked. So that's where I'd be like, yeah, yeah. They can't fake me with the numbers. If they listening, somebody wanna see you in live. They wanna see this live. If this got 10 million, they wanna see it live. Yeah, yeah. For example, Lil Earl, he went up quick, he's booked. It's that simple. We traveling like crazy. If the song's hot, you do shows. Everything else, you can become a personality where you make music, but people like your lifestyle. They'll book you to come host. You ain't got no song they know. So they just really wanna see you. So once you get that run out, a lot of people dry up and get out. Like I've been here for a long time. So I see them come and go and I'll be knowing what they doing wrong. I'm like, bro, he need a single right now. He hot, he hot with no single. If he can get a single, he gonna be out of here. And they never get a single. And then you got these arms like, man, oh, ain't making no singing. It's not for a radio. We talking about a song that just people can play over and over again. Somebody that can say, oh, this the song I know about you. Like when Young Doll came out, and then he had all them records. But when that preach hit, that's what he was in that little book about. Like they calling now. You see what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. And you can do 30 songs, I don't know. But when you get to that song. It's going up. Yeah, yeah, that's it. They wanna see it at least once. Now I agree 100%. I got a question about shows. So I was told that when you travel everywhere else and you get booked, that Dallas pays the most for book shows than anywhere else. Probably when you're not from here. Yeah, that's what I mean. When you're not from here. Yeah, when you're not from here. When you're not, oh, Dallas, they got the paper to do it. I don't see them bringing artists in it. I know they're charging arm in the leg. You see what I'm saying? Even if they patching up to get these artists like, these artists is coming and getting bags in Dallas for sure. They love coming here for sure. But the people here in Dallas who are from here are not getting that from their own city. No, it's a product without honor in its own country. But the beauty of it is, because you gotta call it beautiful, is this goes on in every city. That's correct. It's not just here. That's so true. I promise you it's not just here. Like the artists that's in these other cities, the artists that's from there, I'm going to these cities doing my show. I'm like, yeah, come for it with me. Come for it with me. Come get on stage with me. That gives, get them book. And they got a hot song. They're like, nah, I ain't get books. Till you fuck with me, they saw you fuck with me. But that's just how they do you in your hometown. It's like growing up in a household. Like I used to tell people all the time, a lot of people used to say, I'm the king of this, I'm the king of that. That's like walking around your house screaming, you're the king of this house. Who cur? Nobody cares. You gotta go to your neighbor house and tell them you're the king of that. That's right. So everybody can know, oh, he the king of that house. That's it. But outside of your house, I don't know you the king of that house. Don't know that. So you gotta go traveling. So you start until everybody on the next street know in the next neighborhood, in the next city, in the next state know that. All that self-proclaimed stuff be so, like the game is so narcissistic dog, it's sick because it'd be so, the people that be narcissistic be the least talented mother fucker, black boy. They mama put confidence in they and they was little. That's all I can see. I don't see it no other way. And ain't nothing wrong with it. But hip-hop, like I always said, hip-hop is one of them games where it ain't about who, good, it's not a sport. Everybody like to compete, but this music industry is not a sport. It's a show. It's not even, I wouldn't even say it's necessary. It's a show. It's a show for show. And it's all about who's the most entertainer. Right. That's why I say it's a show. Even if it's terrible. Even if it's cringe. Even if it's terrible. If I can get a laugh on it, every time I see it, I'm gonna click that before I click to this song. You can be silly. You can be stupid. You can be whatever. I think, I wanna almost say TikTok caused that. No. You've been waiting for that. This has been the beginning of entertainment. Like, this is where gimmicks come from. This is why so many accidentally rich motherfuckers out there right now. Like, the game can laugh you to a bag. Mm-hmm. You know what I'm saying? But then people don't understand that when you start that way, you gotta keep it up. Even when you don't feel like it. But you see the ones that don't know that because they come and get washed up. They get washed up. I gotta ask you about the verses to other night. I've been, me and Bobo, we been going back and forth about this. Did you watch it? Uh-huh. I just, you know, we had our thing. He looked at me when he was on this show and say, I know you wanted it in Texas, nigga. I say, yeah, I feel like that would've went harder in Texas. I'm gonna tell y'all, nigga, I don't care about y'all trying to be him and bum, being politically correct. But I'm telling them that energy would've been different in the room. But see, they had their phones up, that's Bobo. I say, hell, they have phones at every show. In my mind, I'm thinking, if it was coming like, if it was in Texas, they'd have had their phones up, but niggas would've knew them song, man. I just feel that way. But I think they wanted to be on neutral ground. How did you feel about the verses? I mean, shit. OGs. OGs, both of them. OGs. Yeah, you can't take that wrong with a similar fan base, but two different fan bases as well. You know what I'm saying? Pushing two different cultures. Yeah. At the same like, era though, which is dope though, because I know they got up there and got to do them records. And at the time, I can just imagine how they were when all this shit was happening. They never did a concert. They never did no concert together. It's crazy, but they never worked together. A lot of people don't, they don't work in the moment. Yeah. I tell my niggas all the time. I'm like, bro, go watch the last dance with Michael Jordan. Everything you see is your highlight right now. You in it. What you doing? Or are you shining? Or are you sitting around letting these years go by and then you're gonna do a documentary and be like, now I'm only did one thing good. Damn. Like, nah, bro, you gotta be elite out here. You gotta be building your highlight tape. Y'all building y'all highlight tape as we speak. Yeah, nah, you see what I'm saying? You right. I'm walking in my highlight right now. When I'm goddamn 60, I wanna be telling a million stories about what I was doing from this time to this time. So when you think about that verses, the song, I felt the missing of PMC. It was like a tribute to PMC to me. Like, and I know a bun because he's opened it up. And he like, I'm a show lover, you know, and he had the shirt under there. I was like, damn, I miss PMC. You know what I'm saying? I'm being recorded in my mind. Man, that's a big pimp with a bit. It would have been stupid, wouldn't it? Damn. It would have been a verse. It would have been a real verse. It would have been a tribute. It would have been, yeah. He'd have been tripping. He'd have went in. That would have been, it's the real side. That would have been, wow, it's the real side, baby. Calm down, baby. Calm down, baby. Man, do you know how much ruckus just do this cause, man, since he passed away, how people have really came to the forefront and be like, nigga, it's pimp, man. But then we look at it. Even Megan, I'm the Tony Snow, you know what I mean? But look at it, Tony Snow. Look at the game at that time. Nobody was that vocal. No. And when they were vocal, they were being politically vocal. Pimp was saying what the fuck he wanted to say from his heart. And he definitely was down to that side like nobody being, I've never seen a body ripping like that. I probably will never see it again. From his heart. He meant it. He meant it. He stood on business. Still on business. Like, we might got good laughs and all that shit when he was doing what he was doing. That nigga meant that. And that makes sense because shit, niggas like me, he paid away for niggas like me. Damn, you right. You know what I'm saying? You right. Well, we've still been, oh, don't cut your niggas don't, can't spell ABC. Yeah, that's right. Because that's what they thought of us. You see what I'm saying? Yeah, he said niggas, boy, that could ain't the sound. I never get enough of listening to him talk on there, man. Cause he made some niggas, and will it be? God, dog. Will it be a problem, man? You're a. A dog. Them Texas boy. A dog. A serious, man. So when you think about, OK, here's something I asked little Kiki, man. I'm going to ask you the same thing. When you look at, say, when you look at Dallas and Houston, I asked little Kiki. I was like, you know, why do he feel? Why do we think that, you know, the Houston scene and the Dallas scene, they have music together, but it's a separate entity. You know what I mean? I almost want to answer my own question, but I want to know what you think about it. Why is it seems it's Texas, but it seems you know, separated? I wouldn't say it separated, especially now, like I feel like it's more tapped in than it ever been. OK, at this point, a lot of artists is fuck with each other from Dallas to Houston. They younger, but shit, that's the beauty of it. You know what I'm saying? That they are soft walking and really coming down here a lot. They tapped in here, man. They tapped in here. But Pym used to come here. That was his thing. He loved Dallas. But Pym used to be Bobo now. Yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? It wasn't no artist to do this to, because how I look at it still to this day, like from an artist's perspective, when you look at Dallas and Houston, it's just it's more structure. It's like big brother, little brother. OK, and we little brother. Yeah, we we bring a whole another energy. I'm not, you know, we don't take nothing from what we got going, but it's just far as what we got to see in the industry. Niggas win like big doing rap. And it's done that. They got a lot of they got a lot of niggas up right now. They don't rap no more. They came in rapping that they did the game. They played the game and won. So they they taking that game and tossing that game back. And tossing that game back to them. You know, you see, you know what I'm saying? More so with us. We had some people get in. But maybe they they didn't get no information like that. I mean, well, maybe they didn't. Oh, I don't know. Nobody personally reached down to me and gave me no information. You had to come with it. You feel I'm saying everything I went. I went by my head. When you think about, I know, ESG said that. Pretty much Houston, because, you know, he from Louisiana, but he moved to Houston. He said Houston found their sound. But when you look at Dallas to him, one may rap this way, the other may rap this way. And they didn't find it sound like Houston had a sound that they was and creating and pushing. Yeah, everybody pushed that one that. Well, yeah, everybody pushed that one sound with that unit that that pop at that time, like screw and all that. And then everything that trickled off of Monday. Even if they didn't reach back, just being able to see that. That's what I'm saying. Like just being able to see somebody winning. Like to me, I couldn't that couldn't be in my right there with me and me seeing. Oh, that's what you did. That's what you did. That's what you did. That create other dogs. But not seeing it, you just, you know, you getting blindfolded and going. Yeah. And you fall into this, you fall into sticker bugs, you fall into all this type of shit. When you doing it, how? I can say how I did. I don't know all the other artists. Yeah. Even like, because I know Houston, they're like, man, everybody reached there and didn't get me nothing. Man, just seeing it sometime, you might have seen it and just apply to see yourself. You, he didn't have to tell you that. You got it from them though. You know what I'm saying? Rapaline, carpet, Menonite. Crazy. Crazy. That Menonite. Imagine anybody can see that first hand. It's right there. Come on man. That births other hustlers, that births other CEOs. That's what he said affected him. Yes. That's what it is. So growing up not seeing shit like that. Shit. He just in a in a pit of swimming, everybody's doing songs, like you said. Yeah. This is the point in time where Dallas was mad at Dallas cause they sounded like Atlanta. But I was like, how can you be mad at these niggas sounding like all the DJs play. They playing Atlanta, they not playing these niggas. Let me get this, this is obviously the sound that y'all want, let me goddamn get close to it so y'all can play my record. So that's what niggas was on. So I understand every aspect when I look at it. I get it, I was, I was, I was like, well, you know, prison, Dallas Cowboys, that separates Houston allers or Houston titans, whatever that those are, those are gaps cause these niggas is in here. Really, I know they not playing about that, that whole Dallas Houston niggas will die over that. Yeah. And on lockdown, I'm telling you. Yeah. That makes up, that makes for issue in itself. Yeah. That we don't talk about, but it's an issue. I know first hand, it's a damn issue. Yeah. No. But because sports is big, right? So people like, hell no, I'm with Dallas. Oh, I'm with it. And it be going down just like that. Mm-hmm. Another thing me and Lucky talked about was he, he was like, I love Dallas man. I even got a whole CD with a done chief, big chief. Mm-hmm. Like we have, we did a whole project together. I was love Dallas. Shout out to Don Chief, man. Yeah. He's, I love Dallas and man, love Don Chief. Don Chief worked hard during his era. He was in his own bubble look like, bro. From my perspective, when I looked at Don Chief and the way he was doing them, he greeted volumes and all that stuff. Bro, he had his own, when you went in big T and you went by Cap of the Boom or you went by Diamond D. Diamond D. You heard this nigga man. Mm-hmm. And then it was working. He was bringing it through. Like y'all work man. Listen man, the whole city need to understand what we did in Dallas. Me and Chief, me and Chief been locked in all year. No, real shit. For real? Like yeah, like just, we got some shit. We got records. For real? Like me and Chief talk every morning. That's dope. Every morning, I can't make this shit up. I can't like, but you just draw a brain cheek. Cheek gonna be like, oh man, it feel good. I'm telling you, cause he appreciate that type of shit just cause we done had some conversations where he feel like a lot of niggas didn't understand like what he was doing and the shit he was putting together and how monster mental it was. I was ready. It's my photo internet. It was my photo internet. And the nigga, like I said, as far as lyrics and the way he was getting around beats and cadences and doing this thing, he was popping man. I mean, Jim Jones, all of them niggas knew it. D niggas knew it. They felt it in New York. You know what I'm saying? And they felt it everywhere because it was going chief dropping. If I'm not mistaken, it's either the ninth or the eighth of July, a Satya Summer. So shy to cheat. I'm trying to bring that boy back on here, but I'm trying to do it in a way. I had some plans, you know that with him and them guys, cause I wanted to come bless the game. Get some guys I want to really, you know, it's a monumental thing for me cause I love Dallas, man. So I'm trying to get him and Luchi and Pookie back on here. You know, that's hard. Oh yeah. I'm throw with it, bro. I be over here trying to figure it out. Like these niggas, I tell them all the time, I'll be like, bro. Cause they be like, little bro, you got them. I'll be like, no, nigga. Y'all niggas, I saw this shit. Like these are the things that I did get to see. Yeah, yeah. You see what I'm saying? Like you see, you see that shit. You at Capita Boom, new era. My sister's working new era. So I'm getting all this shit. You in there, like, yeah. You know what I'm saying? I'm knowing Diamond D. I'm a little bitty nigga running up there. Like, you get older and you can work in here. Type shit. Like me and Diamond locked me in there to see him hustling doing, what he doing, making legit money right there. You know what I mean? He did the same. And it's still there. It's a staple. It's a staple. So just to see niggas winning. It's a lot of, like you said, it's a lot of bosses out here. Yes, sir. It's a lot of bosses out here to talk to. They just, I feel like the game done drain. You know, the game, the game would drain you out of wanting to just like be in a light. Yeah. Doing what you're doing. Like it's like, all right, let me just make my money now. Yeah. I'm cool with like trying to be on this like, cause these little niggas, bro, they posting five times a day. Yeah. Like, you can't keep up, bitch. You may have got the way. That's in real time. You want to be an artist. You got these niggas, baby, you want to be artist. I'm like, bro, these little niggas is posting a lot. They giving them content, content on top of content on top of content on top of content. If you can't do that, man, you got to get out the way or you got to put your best foot for it every time you come. No, 100% man. I'm glad you just told me that his project jump dropping it. I'm going to try to get him in here before that. When I come back from Chicago, I'm going to hit them boys up and try to, you know what you got to do? We got to get them in here. Cause like I said, I've been, I already talked to, I talked to Pook and Looch. I hadn't talked to Dunn chief, but I'm going to talk to him. I got to say. I'll call chief. Yeah. We got to get him up. I got you. Yeah. He got to get over here. Cause you know how I do it, man. Cause I know already what it brings. People get to see this, man. And it's something special in it. And I don't think people really ever tapped into it in a way to where if you put it just right, people are going to respect it even more. And they don't tell them where it can turn up. I just, I know I have faith in God too. So I already know, like if I take one step forward, he going to take two toward me and anything. No, thanks. You know what I'm saying? That's the way I feel. I got to talk to you about you jumping out that damn airplane or something, a helicopter or whatever that was. I don't know. It was a plane. I don't know. I don't know. I ain't going to lie. I don't lie. First thing he's like, he crazy. I said they're crazy right there. He is crazy. I never do that. He's like, we listen to it together. And he was like, no. I said, I don't want to know something that's funny. That was that. It wasn't a bucket list thing. What it was, it was me. It was me. I was telling myself, like I always have to like, get in my own head. Cause like growing up, I ain't ride roller coasters. Okay. Have y'all been to Six Flags? Yes. I've been, I never rode a, you don't ride that shit. I don't do that. He don't ride it. So you ride rides. Have you rode the runaway mountain? Yes. So it's pitch black in there. Right. That was the first roller coaster I rode. That was the first roller coaster I rode. So anybody that know, I'm a kid, my mama, sister, brother. They're like, oh, come on. This is your first roller coaster. This is going to be easy. It's lighting. It's nothing going on. It's easy, but it's scary. You don't see shit. But it's scary. I freaked out. I don't want to get on shit else. So my whole life, I never rode roller coasters. So I find myself going. I used to go to the top of the line and I walked through. Go down, wait for my mom and then we'll come in. Like, it just, they bugged me up with that. Like, I can't see. And my bug got twirling and whirling and going on. I get motion sickness real bad. Like, I can't even swing on a swing too long. Really? Yeah. When I skydived, I almost threw up. Oh, what's going on? That shit there, it is. So what made you want to do it? You made it look good. I said, I need to, like, I ain't rode a roller coaster. Overcome the fare. In 15 years, like. And you didn't want to ride a roller coaster. So you just took it. I still don't want to ride a roller coaster. Let's get it over with it. So when somebody, when I go to the next amusement park, when I take my kids to Disney, man, they like, you ain't riding, man, I jumped out of the mud fucking plane. I ain't got to get on the old. Yeah, I wasn't even bigger in battle. You went, I'm done. I'm done. I don't burn. I never got on them rides. So you go out here, kids get on the roller coaster and you're not going to get on there with them. At all. Enjoy yourself. That's what they want to do. I'm going to paint for the picture. When it, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I was going to do it, but that's not me. That ain't going down like that. So how did it feel? I want to know. How did it feel? Yes. All right. Stomach don't drop. It don't. So imagine jumping off this table in. But you were safe because he was, he's a professional and he's behind you. Yeah, but see what they doing is all day, he is jumping out of the plane. Right. He, when he came, when they came and scooped us up, they had just jumped with somebody else. So that shit just back to back to back to back to back. You couldn't get ready. Back to back to back to back. Let me get ready. Now I was sitting there. They take you through a training course. That's what you're doing. They got a nice little time slot where everything move like this. So the plane moving, it's another plane coming, another plane coming. They got that workers. They got the people that are teaching you what you need to know, how you need to be doing. So you don't fuck up the nigga behind you. But I think you do it four times and then you can jump by yourself. Like that ain't enough times. No. For me to put my life in my hands. No. No, I need by myself. No, 10. And I think about it at 10. You just need one? Hell no. I can't do it, bro. Who did it with you? Paint. Stretch did it. Stretch did it with me. Paint did it. Who else did that shit? So it was one more person. I think. But if not, it was for show them too. Yeah, I think it was just them. Have they done it before? Never. So everybody. Everybody can. Who has the funniest reaction? Not everybody. Okay. Cause I know y'all. So I'm cool the whole time. I'm in my head. I'm cool. It's my birthday too, y'all. So this happened last year. It was last year, last July. Okay. So boom, I'm like, cool. Let's go do this shit. I'm finna go do it. I'm in there. My little girl, she in a little thing. My girl there. My potter's like, all right, boy, you wanna do this shit, we doing it. We gon' do it with you. We thuggin' with you, bitch. Let's go. Cool. Let's get to it. Go through the training course. I'm the one in class, joking, playing. Oh, yeah, fuck it. I'm tryin' to be comfortable. You know, I'm tryin' to psych myself out. I ain't ate nothin', though. Yeah, cause you drank a red bull. Oh, damn. Drank a red bull. Plain cum. It's all gravy. You dig it, I'm sayin'. Get on the plane. I'm talkin' my shit out. Put my little ugly goggles on and whatnot. We get up there, I'm used to flyin', so flyin' is no problem. We all the way up there. Lookin' out, I'm like, oh, yeah, yeah, that's it. Right here, that's it. We finna do this, y'all. Hell no. When that door opened and you stood up right there. No, I wanted to be the first to jump. Get it over with. I'm like, hey, let me go first. Nobody's goin' before me. Besides the people that individually went, that was up there with us. They went ahead and jumped out. They look like goddamn swans comin' out that bitch. Ain't no other bitch knowin' to do it. When they open the door, I open that door and them niggas that can do it, jumped out, like they were jumpin' in the swimming pool. But you feel the wind. I'm sayin' why? You can feel the wind. You feel the wind. Do you feel it? Hell yeah, you feel it. You feel all that. This is the fastest you will ever go raw to the earth with wind just hitting you. It's like, you can't breathe, damn it. When they open the door, how do they let you, like we gotta just open the door now. Did you try to change your mind? Like you want to say open the door? You're like, nah, I don't want to do it no more. Nah, I got to find a door. I was like, I'm ready to jump. Like, let's get it. Let me go first. I don't want to jump. But you, how up in there are they just goin', how fast you think they goin' when they open them door? I don't know. Cause they goin'. Oh, you movin'. You up there. When you jumped, what was in your mind the whole time? Nothing. I screamed and I said, oh, didn't look. I know I paid to get the camera shit recorded. So I'm like, you had to change up. I had to shake it up real quick. I said, all right, come on, let me get right. Boom. So now I'm just doing what I'm supposed to be doing. I'm like, all right, I'm gonna put my hands up like they taught me. Yeah, but you really in your mind like, I got this, all right. In my mind I'm, you fallin', you just fallin'. Ain't no stomach drop, you literally just shootin' down. And you literally just- It seemed like when he did this or something, y'all shot back up. Yeah, because that slows you down once you have your hand like this. It control you. Right. You know what I'm sayin'? It control you. So it ain't slow you down. Cause the wind. The cameraman is just still fallin', fallin'. Okay. He ain't shot his self like this so he just fallin', givin' his angles. The cameraman called the little white boy. He sittin' there. He got the cameraman in one hand. He like, come on, man. I'm like, but he needs crazy. I'm like, I pay for it here. Cause the whole package is too much to not be up there. You can't be going down. Yeah, you gotta look like you're enjoying yourself. You hear, we hear the wind in the sky. He jumped off like a something too. He did some jumping off a mountain. Oh, the cannon. Yeah, the cannon. Cannon. That's, that ain't no control. I thought he was by himself. I always thought he was trippin'. But that shit, I'm tellin', bro, I'm comin' down. You pull your own shit. Oh, they don't pull it? You have to pull it? They will pull it at a certain, cause they get you like, I don't know what that shit called. I hate not knowing exactly what it's called, but you see how high up you are. When you get to a certain spot, there we go, boom. See, she can go jump out at one point. There you go. They tell you at a certain spot, there where they teach you, go here and start, reach back and pull for your shit. Or you can get, they even give you like a, if you like to fall a little longer, don't let it get to this. Me, right before I even got to the first one. Hey, we was in the air, listen, we was in the air on parachutes. You remembered it. What? I'm talking about, we was in the air, I was watching everybody else shoot down. I'm like, they'll go point, they'll go stretch, they shoot them down. They landed before me. Remember, I'm telling y'all jump first, but I pull first too. Yeah. Cause I'm thinking, I'm thinking, okay, this shit gonna stop unless we get here. Now your stomach dropping cause you, Yeah, it pulls you up. Yeah, yeah. I'm telling them, bro, I'm like, all right, bro, I'm gonna give it up right here, right now. I didn't, but it was one of them things where you know what your mouth get, you knew all that spit, you got to keep it spitting. Yeah. And now I know, you know that, you got to do a breathing control right when you feel like you're finna throw, you got to get that air you need. So I found that, I got down on the ground, I asked bro, I said, why do I feel like, like all my energy gone? He said, hey, you ate? I said, I ain't ate nothing. I said, I just drunk a red bull. He said, you ain't giving that adrenaline, nothing to feed off of. You need to go get you something to eat right now before you pass out. I'm talking about, I get out, I'm pulling my shit off. And I'm talking about, I'm moving like, I feel heavy. I feel like I got on a body weight now. And I'm like, hell nah, I'm drenched, sweating. So as I get back into the place to get your, get your shit back, everybody that's coming up next, cause I remember I told you it's a nice little order going in. Everybody's going next, they looking at me like, I'm freaking them out. How was it? I'm drenched. Like, man, that shit, that shit, I'm gonna kill me. I'm scaring everybody on purpose at this point though. But I really fit. Like, I went, remember I'm telling you it's my birthday. My girl took me to a nice little yard bird, some of the yard bird. Yeah, I know how that, I threw up. Wow. I threw up right there. Just, luckily we was eating outside. I hate doing that too. So I feel like the heat made me throw up. But I threw up. It just was a terrible, that was a terrible birthday. I ain't gonna cap, I ain't gonna lie to you. You ain't gonna forget it though. Too light one, it wasn't your birthday. It wasn't your birthday. Send my love. That boy fit to go in on the love. What you gonna do this time? Not a goddamn thing. That baby turned one. That girl turned one. She just turned one. No, she turned one last Saturday. Yeah, she just turned one. So how's that been though, man? Cause you had the boy already, but how was the highs? He turned four in two weeks. In two weeks. How's the daughter being different from the son? That's daddy's a little girl. She's a cry baby. Really? She's a cry baby. Only around you are. She's a, I would say a pandemic baby. Okay. She'll, she ain't really go nowhere. And then when we did go places, it's not the average, when you got your baby out, everybody, you go to church, I'm not giving you my baby. You might got COVID. When we go to family things, I'm not passing my baby around. Cause she ain't, this is the baby. And she can't fight off with what you can fight off. So I just, I feel like that's what I was like. That's what I call, yeah. Gary Payton defense with my baby. Stick on to you like glue. For sure. And she really don't like no other man. Like, she be like. But she'll go to women. Oh, she'll go to women. Okay. If she feel like it. She is a mean little baby. Her attitude. She's mean. Whose attitude she got? Mine. But you're not mean. You gotta mean what? You see how he paused when I said that he paused? I saw that. I'm not mean. I'm blunt. And I feel like my baby just blunt. Okay. I don't know if a baby can be blunt, but I got a blunt baby. You know what I'm saying? She kind of just. Well, in today's society, let me ask you a question. What's your baby? Cause I know you like to plan ahead. You know, everybody's creating wealth for even the kids nowadays. How are you working to create wealth for her? Not through your company or what you're doing, but it's kinda cause they do whether they have a page for their baby and do a TikTok for their baby or Instagram and have them start making money that way. What are you doing for your child? Not gonna put her in no entertainment industry. Like she gotta get to the age where she wanna be in it. Cause I sleep, eat, breathe this shit. And it's not nothing that I tell nobody to do. Like you gotta be a fucking lunatic to do this and win too. Cause this shit ain't promised. You can't go do four years of this like you do in college and get a music degree or get a podcasting degree. No, you gotta win. You gotta make it. Like so it's damn near like, and then when you see the odds, it's more people trying to make it doing what we do than it is trying to make it in the NFL. Than it is trying to make it in the NBA. It's 50 motherfuckers being drafted. 50 lives being changed right then. Money right there in their face overnight from doing that for how many other years in this, you don't get that. Like it's not a guarantee. So I would say I would want my kids to do some more shit that's like secure. But if they wants to say I wanna do this, I'm not gonna tell them they can't do it. But they gotta say they wanna do it. Cause I know like, man, you don't want to just draw a struggle. Like you don't have to. Yeah, you gotta start getting well for them early. No, you have to. I gotta ask you about the music. Just what, when is the next project coming out? I just dropped the project. I linked up with my partner, my good friend at Go Prez, Dallas, you did what I'm saying. And we dropped the project, which is it's a lot of information on it. Okay. It's just, it's one of them, it's one of them grown. It's one of them grown projects. You know what I'm saying? What's it called? It's called Go Prez. Oh, Go Prez. Go Prez, yeah. Go Prez and it's their motherfuckers. Hard. It's hard, y'all. It's hard. Like it's just, it's wordy. You know what I'm saying? What inspired you to do this? I always do these type of projects. I haven't done it in a long time. I always swung through every genre when I was doing what I was doing. Like I know for a fact, summer coming, I'm finna drop some clubs though. Just cause I know how the game work. You know, I know how to move in it. You know what I mean? I know how to swim through the waters. But at the same time, I know it's a fan base that appreciate me as a full artist. So I get them that type of stuff. And I keep building them. I keep feeding them. I keep giving them stuff cause they steadily growing. I ain't worried about the speed that they grow, but they growing. You know what I'm saying? I know how to monetize with them. I done seen you in the shirt place getting shirt. I do my own merchant shit. Like this shit, it comes from self. So it's more so who won it? Who gonna get up in the morning? When you don't wanna do it, is you gonna do it. You know what I'm saying? Well dude, you, Top Off. I mean, what's going on with Top Off? Last time, I think Half Pine was here since you was here last. And he was telling me about certain people that wasn't there anymore. Who's all dealing with Top Off now? Or like, how's things going over there? Top Off is lovely from my angle. Pine angle is, he went out his way to manage. Yes. You know what I mean? So now what you got is, you have people that are counting on you. You know what I'm saying? And they may not like how you're doing, what you're doing for them. Or you might not like how they working. And like that's the thing of working with motherfuckers. You know what I'm saying? That's why I never wanted to do no group shit. It's hard for me to be able to count on you. You gonna bring your bitch you. You know what I'm saying? I can count on me, but I can't count on somebody else. And I can't let somebody else jeopardize something good possibly, especially in the game that you don't know if you're gonna be in it or not. Coming up, I can see niggas flaking and doing certain things. So I would attach myself from this. So what Top Off is, Top Off is created by JT, rest of your soul. You know what I'm saying? We was kids. So it's more so we keeping that name alive and paint was like, shit, what better way to store my management coming in and call the Top Off management and just extend on our brand. So a lot of the times we come up with like, he'll say Top Off family and then he'll say Top Off people that I manage. Cause these people can go. Like, you know what I'm saying? We always tell them that, you know what I'm saying? Like we family, we locked in. These folks talking about for you as a lifestyle. Yeah, that's family. Like this shit is on your life. This shit tatted on me twice. But like, nigga, I'm crazy. I got it on me twice. You know what I'm saying? You believe in it because you do it. Double time. You did what I'm saying. Your boy passed away. It's different. Chasing it, fighting for it. You know what I mean? That brand. So it just always been with me. I'm gonna push it to the end of the, to the end of the, to the moon. You see what I'm saying? My publishing company is Top Off publishing. You see what I'm saying? It's been that from since 2010 when I made my ass cap. Yeah, yeah. It's just, I don't know. As far as all the artists, it's a, it's a group thing. You know, we all throw each other bones to pick, but it's still a, man, this game is, this game of grind. We're gonna get up and go get it. And I ain't gonna, you know, I ain't gonna babysit you. Nobody. No, no, no. But I think, I think you, like I said, you, what? I gotta ask you about different things, man. Yellow, he been in, been in the news a lot. Lordy's was just here with me the other night. Just with it, with what you see him with, with Yellow, do you, is he gonna be all right, you think? Yellow actually texts me yesterday and say, all his cases dropped. Really? Yeah. That's good. He done. That's dope. But I personally know Yellow, like Yellow is like big on like church shit, like so. Man, that nigga, he been paying his time. He paying his time with his street money. Like I watched this boy do that. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. So he's, he's touched, like it's just more so. It's more money, more problems, man. Like, well, maybe I can get a damn interview now. I've been pushing for that for ever though. No, it ain't happening. He ain't been doing no prayers, no nothing. And I have some good insight on that nigga. Well, he has great friends just sitting around him. Clear? I don't know why. I mean, it's love. I got people around that nigga, man. Yeah, talk to him. I'll talk to him. I got people around him. I know people that got him. Because I think that some people, even though we have people around him, they still very skeptical about who and what to do with, you know, certain things. Yeah, yeah. But I can feel it. I can feel it. I mean, I mean, just, just being in his shoes, I mean, I wouldn't personally want to be there. I tell it all the time, like, but, but that's why yellow, yellow's nice and rich. I'm gonna let y'all know that. Like that boy know that. He is nice and filthy. The one thing I know is he a dope artist and I've been rooting for him a long time, bro. Yeah. And to be real with you, I've been a fan. We've been on places together. And I don't, I don't cry no nigga. That just ain't me. But I said, whenever somebody not on this show, I say I got to work hard. I'll be thinking in my mind. I focus on that point. Yeah. But he one of those guys that because of him not doing press, I kind of, you know, like this, he going through his thing or whatnot. Me, you know, me and Lordy talk every all the time. Exactly. But at, and other people, but at the end of the day, I want to him to want to come on here. You know what I mean? I'm gonna put that book in his ear cuss. It's different over here because we don't make a nigga do nothing over here. If you, you know that atmosphere. It's really like, damn, you know, like we go, I go in there, I ain't got work by no pressure, none of that. He had to hear it from a nigga like me. You know what I'm saying? And he, y'all already had Lordy's through here. So it's like, even if it's like gotta be arranged, like, cause I know how yellow moves. I know what I'm saying. But I know y'all gonna move. Man, we ready. According to how, you know what I mean? To make anybody comfortable. So yeah, I'm a for show. Gonna put that book in there. So be looking for that. Oh, yeah. For show. I've been thinking about like, man, are we ready to get that boy on here yet? And then I was like, now. I was probably talking right now. I told him like, when he text me that, I text him back on this morning. I was just like, hey, bro. That's a blessing. I said, look, it's time for you to step on. Everybody that prayed on your downfall now. Yeah. This how I talk to you. Like this, it's time for you to, I said, it's time for you to be super sad yellow. Like now, here it is. Yeah. What you gonna do? It's time. He gon, he gon, man, he built like, I know him. He gon, he gon step up to the plate. And he been swinging it that motherfucking charge, sitting over the fence. I know it. You know what I'm saying? Like I said, as far as the music and the star power, that's no problem. No, that's it. Like I said, this nigga, when he step in the room, you know this nigga's a star. When this nigga, I tell people all the time, when he not in Dallas, nigga's gon go crazy for that nigga, man. Cause they seen this nigga, man. This nigga I saw with everybody. Chris Brown, Gucci, man, me, me goes, this nigga, this nigga guy, he like you. I'm beyond with you. That ain't got, no, that ain't got songs with motherfuckers. That ain't got songs, boy. Listen, the boy ready. And I know that. And I tell people, like, that nigga, the biggest nigga in Dallas, when they come out under this music and like, if he go play, the niggas know this nigga. When they think of Dallas, they think of that nigga, man. I'm being real because of the way he, when I did different things with different groups of people. Yeah. Now yours is different because you write and you do all kinds of stuff. You might miss it. But this nigga here was in the front forefront. When I go to Atlanta, I'm over at that nigga exclusive game. Tony and he walked out. That's on me, baby. I go Dallas, everywhere I go, I go to LA. That's on me. I see this nigga everywhere. That's what he record. That's what he was just, I don't like that. But I already, I was listening to the one where he, that Stevie Wonder, I was listening to that stuff before all that. I was listening to that designer. I was one of them guys. I'm here, nigga. I'll record that. You did? Trappin' designer? Yeah. But you gotta realize I own stores. So that song, and I was mad about the video. That was crazy. It was in Villa, or it wasn't Villa that time. It might have been Villa at the time. When he did the video, it was in a store like, I'm like, damn, why they couldn't be over here at Boston? It wasn't Boston. You need fashion back there. There wasn't no Boston stock, you know what I'm saying? But I didn't, I was just like, I love the designer thing. And then, you know, different people that he rock with, like different people, Charles, all these people that he know. I've been always asked about him and stuff, man. So it's been, he a good nigga, man. That nigga a good nigga, man. Y'all got this thing, man. I can tell you right now, the city, if that's the case, and if that boy come out the way he gonna come out, I know y'all for to do some crazy stuff, to be honest with you. I feel like, to me, I feel like everybody, I'd be like, ah, the city is dry. I'd be like, man, I don't see what y'all see. Yeah. I was here when the city was dry. Nigga, help me get this motherfucker moist. No, I see this building. I seen my nigga getting money. Like, what is y'all talking about? Now, if it's you not getting money, don't call the city dry, because this motherfucker is getting money out here. Doing exactly what you do. You just gotta figure that out. Don't call the city dry. You got another platinum plaque or something, I know. I was just about that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, move up with platinum. Right. I was just about that. So I seen you, you know, I said, add up boy ears. You know what I'm saying? I'm for to stop following him. I'm for to stop following him. God, good. He got his shirt off. He ain't like, what's that boy name? Seco P. No, not Seco. Wiz Khalifa, you know. No, I ain't gonna be in my drive. No, I ain't gonna burn up. I ain't gonna burn up all my male followers, man. Boy, I got a cameraman to be trying to do that. I feel I'm following that nigga. I used to do that. I used to do shit like that. I used to do shit like that. And my partners used to tell me like, bro, man, I'm feeling a pop run. I'm feeling a follow you, bro. I said, okay, I understand. I understand, I understand, I understand my nigga. I get it. What's the craziest thing you've ever done as an artist? Are you going back to that? What's the craziest thing that I've ever done? The craziest thing you've ever done. I think the craziest thing that I've ever done was when I thought of that, the cool it now concept. When I was, have y'all seen the cool it now video? You saw it, boom. So I'm on the camera on the music video. It looked like I'm hitting the girl. I'm having sex on the couch. Okay. You know what I'm saying? And that video, so that video did, at the time, it did the best numbers for me ever. Like in a night, in a, cause I was butt naked. That's your acting skills. It is, but it wasn't that, at the time frame, the game wasn't seeing none of that. You know, the game wasn't doing none of that. So they thought you really was doing that. Oh, it looked like it. It looked just like it. But the beauty of it was, that thing did 100,000 in 24 hours. Damn. You know what I'm saying? Did 100, 100,000, it got blocked on the third day. On the third day it had like 450,000. You didn't blur it out or nothing? It's blurred out, but it's still just, yeah, YouTube, that's when they first started. Now they clock in, they show half a, you show half a booty shit, you getting blocked. You getting blocked. You going on that block list. But it was the, to me it was more so the process of how I rolled that out. The day before we got on Facebook, we got blocked on there too. In pint, I said pint, look, we already got the scene going, go out there, make it seem like you catching me, having six. We're not going, because nobody heard the song yet. I was releasing the song with a video. So I'm like, pint, we did two takes of it. We still have both takes. You know what I'm saying? So to see the, that clip did a hundred K overnight. Right. Before it got blocked, and we was like, they was like, man, what's going to satisfy you? I'm like, bro, if the video do the exact same things, you know, it's just like a lot. A lot might go crazy, but then the truth might get 5,000 views. So I was like, man, just give me that equal match. And it did that. So I was like, yeah. So it was like, it was one of them plays where you just, you be able to sit back and you know that your mind like, what the shit you think can work. But that's been my whole career. Like even like with me dealing with different labels, this that another, the majority of the shit that worked for me was my mind. You see what I'm saying? And I wish I wasn't fucking with none of them labels. I'll say that right here. I wish I didn't fuck with none. I wish I was just, you know what I mean? Trusting my, you know what I mean? It was independent labels. So I was still independent, you know what I mean? But just to not, because at the time frame, me learning the game, they was learning the game. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? The only thing they had on me is age. And so that'll be like, that's like my main thing that I want to teach artists like, man, don't let nobody come swindle you. Cause that's basically, they basically pimping you. Trust yourself. They pimping you. Basically pimping. When you look at it, like that's cool. I can say that. I can stand on that. But I wasn't going to allow that type of shit to keep happening. And I'm the nigga putting these plays. Not today when you have so much information out there that you can acquire yourself. The only thing that I see that some people would want someone to overlook them, I'm not going to always say a label is the fact that that person might have more contacts than they do. They have more networking skills. They're in certain rooms that they want to get into. That's the only reason I see that they'd want to, you know. No. Entangle themselves. I know a lot of people that tangle themselves in that. I will also say to that artist, like if you're seeing this person, you're like, man, they tapped in. Asking, can you pay for that contact before you just get them 20% of something they ain't worked for. So you can do that. Before you make them your manager and get them 20% of something that you ain't made yet. So people sell contact books? Hell yeah. Okay. Hell yeah. Let me ask you this. I got to jump off that before you get off your big extra plug though. Is he next up? He hard. And then he came over here and the nigga voice so deep. I be wanting more music though. Maybe I'm pushing to it. I want that nigga to drop all the time. See, cause these young niggas got you on it. Yeah. You hear them drop, drop, drop, drop, drop. I want that nigga to drop, nigga. But if you like them, you don't want them to worry you out. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? You don't want to find out a nigga's special move before a nigga goddamn can show the world his special move. Yeah. When he's special move, the world see it. You can be like, I've been doing bro. Cause that's what people do to us as artists. You know what I'm saying? That's the hard part about catching it from the ground up. The people around you that was pushing you, they feel like they know you and they feel like they heard the best of you or they get your style or this that and the other. When they not understanding, it's a whole world out there that I need you, the person that know me to be able to explain to these people what it is. But instead they pull off when it don't happen on the time that they feel like it should happen for you. Yeah, I get it. You know what I'm saying? So now you become that nigga that rap. No, no. Oh, that's just such such. That's why I tell niggas, man, go get you some wins. Cause the wins gonna, it's ice breakers when you getting them big rooms. Yeah. Like every, like people ask me all the time, man, how you getting the right in game? I don't know, nigga. But you one of them guys. I can say this, the best shit that ever happened to me in them writing rooms was me being able to say, oh, I had this song, that song, this song. And the artist that I'm writing for be like, oh, I heard that before. So now they trust it. They're like, oh, he know how to make his own records as well. Like, so it's different when you already have a catalog as well and you can go in there with leverage. But everybody be like, I'll be like, man, I can't get you that type. I don't know that game. Like I just use what I work and how I move my juices. You be the best, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. Nah, man, you gifted, man. That's what happens, man. Like your gift will make room for you. I gotta say that, you know what I mean? I appreciate it. Like man, you've been blessed, man. Like I said, you did another boss talking of you. I'ma always get you in here periodically, bro. I got the last question. Oh, you gonna bring it on home? Yes, but the name Lil Ronnick, you know a lot of people with the name Lil, anything in front of their name, after they get older, they always change that little or drop that little or whatever. Why you still have it? Lil Ronnick M.F. I don't know why I still got my name Lil Ronnick M.F. Cause you ain't Lil no more? Yeah, I just, I always been Lil Ronnick cause you know, that's my dad's name. So I always been Lil Ronnick growing up. The mother of is what separated me from all of the Lil Ronnick's. I don't know. I don't know. Would you ever change a Lil, drop it off or anything at all? I mean, I'm a Lil nigger for a project. It may be time marketable. We don't know. In my mind, I don't know why I would change my name too. No, you keep the Ronnie, but there's the Lil. So Ronnick M.F. Yeah. Cause look, the mother of on my name is always giving me grief. Why? Cause it's a short acronym for a curse word. So a lot of radios when I go do shit, they just call me Lil Ronnick. I'm like, no. So I used to get to the station, do my interviews. I'm like, yeah, I go by the name Lil Ronnick M.F. I will always correct it. But you didn't say the whole curse word, you just say it. Exactly. Before I made Mother F, it was motherfucker. I used to call myself motherfucker. Yeah. Yeah. It was all the way uncut. So they did not want to say that, of course. Raw. It was raw. But that's dope. Some people still call me Lil Ronnick motherfucker. Like, it's like, it's one of them things where, I don't know. It's hard to explain, but I don't know what I would change my name to. I probably would change my name to my real name. Ronnie Wright. Really? That would be a dope project. Just Ronnie Wright. That's a dope project. I'm just thinking of projects. You know what I'm saying? Because shit, you say when you get old, I'm 30. Shit, I don't know how much older I can get to take that mother out. You know what I'm saying? Nah, you got a dope brand, man. However you do it, I know you blessed, you smart, man. Sharp. Sharp with it, bruh. Before I get out of here, I want to tell everybody to go check out, we just did a short film. We shot about Half-Life films. It was wrote by Cinnamon Day, that's Pink Girl. It's a short film. It's called Right My Wrongs. I got the lead and role in that. That's online right now. And that's another thing I was thinking about, and I forgot, because I know you're such a great actor. I would love to see you in the film. So that's gonna be dope. How do you think it turned out? It's out. It's out. How do you think it turned out? Dope. We about to watch it. It was dope. Where can we find it? It's on YouTube. On YouTube. And how long is it? It's a short film. How long is it? It's a short film. It's 15 minutes. That's it. It's 15 minutes. That's good. But the average short film is 10 minutes. Yeah. I want to see you in a full-blown movie. So we are shooting a full-blown movie. We actually in the midst of finishing and writing, and we gonna start filming. That's dope, man. At the end of this month. What's about? If I tell you that, put it like this. It's not a shoot a month bang bang. Romance, drama. It's gonna have dramas, it's gonna have romances. It's for sure gonna have a comedy in it. But it's gonna give you everything that a movie would give you. You know what I'm saying? You just not looking at actors you're familiar with. So it's just more so us jumping in that water the same way we jumped in this music business. We jumped in that water. All local actors? People gonna like it and people not. But we know that's what come with it. You know what I'm saying? We can't touch everybody, but we won't get anybody to see it. And of course half-pined filmed it. Half-pined filmed it. Half-pined edited it. You know what I'm saying? Who wrote it? And he said his girl wrote it. His girl wrote it, yeah. The movie and both of them, okay? That's gonna be dope, man. I'm gonna watch it, the short film for sure. Shout out to Would You Look at This Productions. That's this new one. I wasn't called. Okay, let me see. It's called Write My Rones. It's spelt like my last name, right? Write My Rones. We gonna rock out with that. And it's on, where is it, Amazon? No, it's on YouTube right now. It's on YouTube. Y'all letting the niggas just eat all of it. That was our test. That was our test. Like, we finna really, we just, now we kick back and look at it. It's like, ah, bitch, it's y'all, y'all, let's rock. Oh, it's up. That's why. That's all you gotta do is see it. Then you know what you need to fix, and what you need to, how you need to move. You can put everything in the palm of your own hand. You know, we got, y'all, we got the YouTube channels. You know what I'm saying? We got prime time that we about to do. That's what my skit's gonna be at. Like, it's, you can do what you wanna do long. You got, you guys got great followings, man. It's some people, believe it or not, Lurani, that don't even understand either the YouTube algorithm, the stuff that they, I'm being real. It's some real known dudes that deal with everybody that don't understand the concept of that. And I be trying to help educate these people. But a lot of them niggas is not content creators. No, no, they not. I feel like once you become a content creator, you become driven on them analytics, cause that's how I was. So you be trying to figure it out for sure for sure? It show you, it's a map. That's right. If you know how to read that shit, it's telling you where to push it. Oh, y'all like that? Let me get y'all some more of that. Y'all like that? Let me get you some more of that. Like, when you looking at back office and you see them numbers, they tell you the age of motherfuckers, they tell you the male female, like you know who fucking with you. But some people don't even know how to get that far. I'm telling you. But here we are again, E. If they grown and we can do it, they can do it. They just don't want to do it. Damn it, boy. That's all it is, boy. I hate it, man. Because like I said- And you can't want it for him. I knew it. I'll be wanting it for niggas all the time too, bro. You can't want it for him. Check it, man. Hey, man, thank you so much for coming on the show, man. Hey, boss talk, man. We're the bosses talk, man. Check it, man. We're out.