 a rent house in Greece because I need to move out of Lebanon. Lebanon is not doing me any favors. All right, guys, we should be live. Sweet. So for those of you that are hanging out in the YouTube chat, this is going to be a Linux content creator meetup to help raise money to help out Dark Zero, the creator of Zero Linux. You guys know him as Steve. He needs money because of the current situation in Lebanon where he is restricted to only having two hours of power a day. Is that right, Steve? In the weekend, we get four hours and the rest of the weekdays we get two hours of state provided electricity. Yeah. So obviously you need a generator to be able to buy a generator like you put in the description. It's rent. Rent a generator. Yeah, because buying a generator it the neighbors will not like it. Oh, yeah. I'm sure they had a chance to buy a generator that you would not be liking it, but they'd still do it. Yeah. No, renting is cheaper because buying a generator you have to maintain it and everything. Whereas if you rent it, the maintenance is on them. All your renting is the is the power and it's getting it's increasing in price every month. Mm-hmm. Because they're a mafia. We call them a generator mafia. They're not really a mafia, but that's what we call them because they keep increasing because they're not they're not they're not controlled. They're not controlled by the government or anything. They behave as they wish. They're independent. It's like you have to go to Don Corleone to get power. Kinda, yeah. Kinda. They could like if we refuse to go abide by their rules they don't rule out how much they not really not how much power they call them because they're not so sad. That is just I find that control hard to believe in control by the government. Today's date and time that there's society that still works that way on the basics of humanity of humanity. Well, well, all you have to you don't have to look very far. Alex ask the wife in Philippines. It's worse than the Philippines away from Manila, away from Manila that this is so bad. Yeah, I know what you mean about the brownouts and stuff like that. But in the town that I have my house in, which is Pampanga and more specifically, Sindilan in Pampanga, there's not a whole they don't suffer from the brownouts. I don't know what if their power grid is better. I don't understand it, but same here. Same here. There are there are small towns here who get 24 hour of power because they have private generators. Yeah. So and I really want to work on zero Linux nonstop, but it won't allow me. They won't allow me. It's like I want I want to sit down and I want to start making it working on the XFCE edition. I had to to create a freaking Frankenstein over rice because I didn't have enough power to finish it up by the time I needed to finish it. So now it's just a theme applied and that's it. I didn't do anything. Yeah. When we talked about it, sound like you're still struggling to get I think was the panel working properly the way you wanted it. Yeah. Well, we we moved away from Polybar. We went back to the XFCE panel. I'm using a thing called Kanagawa, the thing I call on the yeah, it's actually Kanagawa. It's it's something known in the Japanese thing. I use the Kanagawa wallpaper and then I try to for some reason any of you know XFCE well because for some reason on playing the icons won't know no matter what icon pack I use they won't change. I know XFCE exists and I could maneuver around in it, but as far as like usually when I download Manjaro, I download the XFCE ISO, but not to use XFCE. It's usually to install something else. That's one way of my rescue. It's just a desktop environment. I boot in to install another desktop environment. Yeah, that's one way of doing it because XFCE is real mess. And if you now Matt if he if he made it on the stream today but unfortunately didn't and we may have some some other video content creators join us. We did put out a call to several folks and we knew not everybody could join at this time is obviously time zones around the world. I know some of the US content creators I contacted. One of them just completely ghosted me because you know he lives in California or whatever and you know, whatever I didn't expect a response. I even felt bad sending the email out as like is he really going to get up at like 3 a.m. to meet us at 5 a.m. Probably not. Well good for me and Brody that it's for me. It's 3 p.m. and for Brody it's 9 p.m. Yeah, yeah, yes, it's good for me. It's good for me, bro. He says just took away from my gaming. I talked to Matt because he's a very good. He loves XFCE for some reason and he writes it pretty well. But I talked to him regarding the panel as there's a problem with the 4.18 and I got to the bottom of it after what three hours of talking to him. Hey guys, I just realized nobody's watching the stream. Hold on just a second. Make the mistake like I have before and not made it public. Yeah, that's going to be it. Give me just a second. It's private. Yep. Oh, it's unlisted. Well, like I said, you know, I don't stream that often and usually the only stream I do is my monthly patron stream. Yeah, and that's just the same settings every month. I actually had to create a new stream this time. So let me figure out you just go to the setting edit and then at the bottom you select public. Yep. You scroll down and you see public. You change it from unlisted to public. Well, those that watch it on the rerun, they'll catch everything we've talked about this far. But now we should actually get people actually being able to watch the stream. I'm surprised your chat wasn't blowing up. I can't see anything. I thought you guys were starting late. Well, if it's unlisted, they probably wouldn't even see in the... They wouldn't. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, but if they clicked the link from Twitter or whatever, they would have seen it. But as I was saying, we're talking about XFCE, but with XFCE 4.18, they introduced a bug and I reported it upstream and no reply. The thread is empty. It's only me. The panel, they did something to the panel with all this Wayland, new Wayland stuff that they're introducing for 4.20. The panel, as soon as you make it floating, it no longer adapts to different resolutions. So let's say I did it floating a certain size on 1080p. If somebody has an ultra-wide that's like 5,000, whatever, the panel is going to look like a pixel, like a small pixel in the center of the screen and all the windows will go underneath. So it's not going to stop them. How do you say? It's going to go behind the panel. Yeah. In 4.17 or 16 or whatever the prior one was, it was working just fine. So in order to bypass that, I had to stick it to the top and then it will adapt. So no longer can I do rounded corners and all the sexy stuff and I tried poly bar, tint to panel and everything. We were like, ah, why bother? Just ship XFCE with XFCE element. Don't just go, don't break it. All right, so the folks in the YouTube chat that are just now joining us, we actually started streaming about seven or eight minutes ago, but I had the stream set to unlisted, but don't worry. You only missed a few minutes at the beginning of the stream and it wasn't any really deep conversation that you missed, but if you go back and rewatch the stream later, you can catch those first few minutes if you're really concerned about what we talked about. And we redo the intro then just mentioned what the stream is about. Yeah, we should. Steve, give them a little brief intro as far as your situation with the power in Lebanon. Yeah, we're doing this stream. We invited the various YouTube content creators like Brody, the Linux Tube and well, TT, because he's streaming it. It was my idea because I'm in a tough bind right now. Zero Linux needs to survive and I'm the situation in Lebanon is we're getting two hours of state provided electricity a week on weekends. We get four hours and in order to rent the exorbitant prices of renting generator power. I need to raise some money and the reason the goal is set at 1000 is because something came up. I need to go be my sister's best man on her wedding in Serbia. Uh, plus if you want a hyperland on zero Linux need to get me an AMD card. When he said hyperland, he started coughing. Yeah, hyperland is there you go. Stop saying that Steve. Yeah, that's that's that's the gist of it so far and we were talking about XFCE because it's coming to zero Linux. Yeah, zero Linux XFCE spin is coming alongside the GNOME to complete the DE trilogy collection and there will be a what people decided to call hyper zero instead of zero hype because zero hype is not a real good name. Well, somebody for XFCE wanted me to call it zerox, but zero. That's not going to fly. No, no, that would have caused you some legal issues potentially. So I was like, okay, zero access for a whole lot more. Yeah, so zero XFCE is going to be called zero XFCE. The hyperland edition will be called hyper zero because if in case you people don't know zero in Greek means I know. So all the naming schemes for zero Linux is zero Linux means I know Linux. Dark zero darkness I know. Zero XFCE I know XFCE and hyper I know hyper I know because I have ADHD. Hyper. Box three. What did you do? You called it something that causes me to to to to call. I'll send him a DM. The same thing happens to me every time I mention GNOME. So but those those spins were working me and a person on Discord called the dark sorry Ansible. What's his name? His name is broken Ansible on the Discord. We're working on a website dedicated to spins. It will have GNOME. XFCE and the other one. I'm not going to mention it again because I'm going to call sure not mentioned. So it's going to contain those three. It's going to be dedicated and those three will be available. Donation for the ISO and then I need to make money somehow and that's what we were going to talk about. If if you feel like you're when you donate you're not getting anything in exchange and return. You will be getting you will be having access unlocking access to XFCE GNOME and the third one. When the third one whenever it comes out if you want it earlier that may help me afford a 6800 XT earlier. But yeah or build for free the code is out there. It's three simple commands in terminal and you got yourself an ISO you have to be on arch on an arch distro arch based distro to do that because it uses the arch repositories. But other than that the code is free and I'm trying I even have some merge but nobody buys that merge because the quality from I guess. Please bring like string elements on me. What were you doing your third? When what? What were you doing your merge story? Stream elements. Yeah, yeah. Okay. Stream elements but for some reason nobody cares. I didn't realize all three items and that's it. I'm trying my best to monetize the project as best as I can but apparently online is not it takes time it takes time I just need to be patient. It takes a long time and I need to get I've been doing this for two years I'll be the ISO some releasing in May will be the second anniversary I've been doing this for two years. So I'm like if in two years it didn't pick up how long will it take some people tell me it needs time people need to trust that the distro is not going to die like solace like for example solace. I guess you didn't see the message that came out today then came back and said the project is coming back to the new team he's rejoining solace and bringing stuff back. So there's been enough attention given between DT and a couple of the people that did videos on it that he said you know what I think I need to come back. I was doing fine. Yeah, he says it has absolutely nothing to do with DT but you know it's it seems like a weird time. Oh yeah, he posted it on Reddit. Yeah, yeah, over on the solace Reddit. Well, that's good. But I mean if the guy don't want to be a part of the project he left a while back and he's just coming to help him out. Still somebody somebody eventually has to take control right now. You have to have leadership control is just coming back to help. I guess you're going to make sure that it's straight right now because it's like a dormant project and people are complaining but then surely he's eventually going to move on to what he was wanting to go do anyway, which is fine. Yeah, but then what's going to happen like this is it's a band-aid. It's not really a fix. He hasn't given full details yet. He's supposed to be giving the rest of the details a bit later in the week. What he said so far is the project is continuing and a new team is being put together to work on it. He's going to be in like this. I guess side management T-roll not like the main person running it, but it's sort of unclear what's going to happen until you know you give it a bit of time because you can always say I was a new team that's going to run it and then it goes for like a week a month, a couple of months, but then a year from now, you know, if it's not going then the project didn't exactly plan out like pan out the way you'd expect it to. So still in this like we say where it's unclear. So basically he failed working on on the on the bud on a budgie desktop environment or whatever thing he wanted to work on when a budgie still going. No, I mean, but a lot of people work on budgie. But he's not his project. What he set out to do. He failed that. That's why he's coming back. No, I don't think so. I think it's more of, you know, he probably does care that Solis was dying without him and he's just coming back to make sure to try to do the right thing. You know, try to make sure that all the forum is mess of the forums back online. Um, as of yesterday, I checked their website and still half of it was not working. Yeah, I believe that was one of the things that was on like the list of things. He wanted to get back up working and I think he wants like he wanted to rebuild the website like get all the backup working and then ditch everything that's there and rebuild it up using modernize it. Yeah, using some other system docker saw or something. I don't know what it was called. Um, whether that happens once again, as I said, it's a matter of whether things actually continue or, you know, people are worried. That's all I can say right now. People are worried that like nothing's going to happen. The project is dead. Uh, now there is some communication. You know, it's it's in a very weird state. There's a lot of big name distros out there that are either now dormant or they no longer release as often as they used to. Yeah, that's always been the case. Yeah, but like I've seen dozens of these things die over the years. Oh yeah. And so many of them much bigger than soulless even. Yeah. They were very popular and then overnight they're just gone. Yeah, like one of the few independent distros. Yeah. And and for example, uh, when I saw that, uh, what's a called, uh, cinnamon is becoming a, uh, an official spin of you want to know. I'm like mint. Uh, hello, they had the cinnamon edition, I believe as an official flavor very briefly and then they removed it as an official flavor. I think now it's an official flavor. Again, it's it's been around the people that are working on that particular distro. It's just why are people so scared that mint will die because of it? I've not seen anyone afraid is going to die. I don't say I've never seen anything about that. Yeah, that's just people that try to stir up drama boon to cinnamon and Linux mint cinnamon. They won't have any. I mean, they don't really compete for the same space. You're also going to have like the snap problem that a bunch of you has as well, like mint still is going to be not using snaps. So still has that as the selling point. The people that use Linux mint to many of them. I mean, Linux mint really started as a protest distro. Right. It started as those of you that don't want to use a boon to come use Linux mint. Yeah. Yeah. So why would a boon to cinnamon and Linux mint compete for the same crowd? They really won't. Well, uh, it's kind of like dev wine. Does dev wine really take people away from Debian? No, because they weren't going to use Debian anyway. If you were one of those kinds of people that are so anti system D Debian wouldn't. Oh, sorry. Sorry to mean overstep you there, but I would actually venture to say that more people probably are downloading the LMDE versus the boon to mint now because of that. They just don't want to. They don't want to be associated with the flat pack stuff. Yeah. I think the not having. I think always like the worrying about like the content of this stuff is one of those things where there's always going to be like a lot of I guess a lot of argumentation about whether it should be there, what solution you should be using and there's always going to be distros that pop up in like we are the snap distro. We are the flat back distro. We are the nothing distro and. I don't I don't know why the so many people care about it. Just use what you want to use. Like exactly exactly. My point is like I've been in this Linux world for three years now. I see a lot of people. Okay. They for example, I told them I use arch because arch gives me what I need and and the flexibility to shape it to however I want. A lot of hate and they explode. Why are you using your charges on stable arch will explode in your face. You reboot arch for either. You know you get a lot of people in the community and a lot of a lot of times as people that haven't been around that long you can tell somebody who's just been around a few months maybe a year or two at most once you've been around a while people stop telling you you're using the wrong software you shouldn't be using that distro use this distro because it's you know you shouldn't use this package format use there were this and that system use this one you know after a while you realize that's pointless people are going to use whatever the hell they want you telling people what to use makes absolutely no difference. The people that like try to tell people quit using snaps use flat packs and they think that's going to somehow make flat pack better or some universal standard. No, that's never going to happen. That's never happened with anything in Linux. There are no universal standards. We're never going to have one baggage format. We're never going to have one distro never going to have one in it system as big as system D is we still have six five and yet at six run it open RC GNU shepherd and 15 others somehow we all agreed on one kernel though because no one wants to maintain another kernel. Yeah, we got we got the Linux Libre kernel. It's not very good Linux kernel. It's just Linux and they just put some things out like there's no actual like independent you got to get rid of those proprietary blobs Brody. Yeah, you can't have but that's not I need my blobs to make my hard work. The next Libre kernel is great. I don't have a machine that can boot it, but well the thing is the thing is that is not that not anything new that I mean DT could attest this has been using for a while I've been using for a long time and that's not something new to this community at all. We can't agree on any freaking thing. It seems like yeah, but yeah, people on the internet especially are going to argue to death if you're you're using the wrong text editor you're using the wrong terminal emulator. You're using the wrong desktop environment. Shut up. Yeah, exactly shut up. I use what I'm using what works for me. Why like I I see a lot of people hating on others who use Gen 2. Well, that's understandable. Wait, wait, wait, Matt is using Gen 2. He's not having a lot of issues just a few issues. It's Matt related issues. They're not issues with Gen 2. It's not Gen 2 that I have a problem with. It's source based distros in general that I have a problem. Let's lump them all together. Yeah, I like my time. Oh, he's not actually using Gen 2. He's using Redcore. So it's a yeah. It's a way to use Gen 2 to install Gen 2. It uses the Colormar is installer. So absolutely does. And does Redcore use system D? I can't remember if it uses system D or not, which is interesting system D in it. That's one where you could use whatever. Yeah, but I see why do people like to hate on him because he's using Redcore. It's based on Gen 2. Okay, but what's right? If it works for him, why, you know, you see Gen 2 correctly. Yeah. You didn't install Gen 2. The Gen 2 way is like the archway. You didn't install it. Well, well guys, Brody here Brody here attempted. I love that. I did. I gave up. I got like 40 hours into it like this. I want to, I'm done. It may be some streaming on the main channel. Well, you can make the Gen 2 installation almost as long as the LFS installation. The standard Gen 2 installation. Most people do is that Stage 4 installation, which most of it's already built for you, even though it still takes you eight hours to compile the kernel and all that. You didn't have to compile like everything. But if you go to a Stage 1 installation at Gen 2, yeah, you're going to take a couple of days. When I did my Gen 2 stream, I annoyed people because I did everything wrong. I was like, let's just have, let's have a binary kernel. Let's have binary this, binary that. Let's not install Gen 2 at all. Watch how annoyed people get. There's another one like Gen 2. I forgot the name of it that you have to install from source. There's several that you often have to build packages from source. What's it called? Oh, I don't know. They've built a few distros over the years. I know they had an Ubuntu-based distro that was used internally amongst them, but that wouldn't be source-based. There was a source-based like Gen 2. I forgot the name of it. Well, Chrome OS is built on a Gen 2 kernel, but I don't think you have to compile anything on Chrome OS, do you? No. It's all binary packages. Yeah, but there was another one like Gen 2 that someone attempted to install. I watched his 18-hour, there was one stream. It was part one of like 15. Crap. And I've tried to tell you guys, you guys that are doing Linux, YouTube, and I've told so many of you guys, quit doing Gen 2 live streams. Nobody wants to watch GCC compile. Are you sure about that? Nobody wants to watch that. Do you know how many people watch my LFS stream? They just want to see you suffer. Well, then they get mad, especially if it actually compiles correctly and you reboot and everything works. Oh, man, he installed it, right? That's fair. They're so disappointed. Yeah, so the source-based distros, like, okay, here's the thing. They don't tell people the... How should I put it? Distros are not very well described. They say, okay, Arch not beginner user friendly. Okay, that's true, but why? They don't explain why. Gen 2 not beginner user friendly. Okay, but why? They never explain why. They just throw... They put it in category. They categorize them without explaining. But they're not wrong. Like, their categorization is correct. I love the fact that it's correct. There's nothing to argue there, but you have to explain why. I explain to people Arch Linux has a lot of moving parts. It's a rolling distro. The update can... One day, your system could be working just fine. You run an update, reboot the system. If you're not running BTRFS with snapshots, you are in for a bad day. Like, we happened to drop on September. Tell me about it. Remember, I just recently nuked my drive, my parent system? I had to rebuild it. I did it all in two days, two and a half days from ground zero. I did not have a snapshot, not one, because I had done so much, and I thought that it was automatically doing it because I had it set up for auto snapshots. Something happened where that broke, so I was literally up a river without a paddle or motor and probably even a canoe at the same time. You know what I'm saying? I was like, damn it! Good thing you were able to bring everything back in two days, unlike me. I took me a week to bring everything back, but I need to shout out a few people who so far contributed to Zero Linux. Shout out to Armin Luer. Sorry if I butchered your name. Yeah, I wouldn't have got it either. Benjamin Burden and Awful Pirate. Awful Pirate. I like the name. Yeah, Awful Pirate. I am a good pirate. I pirate on the game. And I want to mention somebody in the YouTube chat, Helmut Fischer. He says, are you guys doing the Gen 2 installations when you're compiling things like GCC? If you redirect the output to slash dev slash null, so nobody can see the compilation anyway, that'll solve that problem. Just have a black screen. It's like nothing's going on, you don't even know. For hours. Oh, that's a brilliant idea. I know this guy runs a small channel where he streams installing Gen 2 on things like a PS2 and stuff. I'm going to tell him to do that, because he would do like 40 hours just leaving the system running. And never, ever on a live stream compile a web browser. Firefox has a binary in the Gen 2 repos also. Don't compile LibreOffice. It's got a binary. Everything that has a binary. Everything that has a binary. And even if it doesn't have a binary, there's probably an app image out there. Don't get me started on app images. There's a mastodon application that is an app image. I found it on the AUR, tried to build it. All it did was compress the app image and then installed the app image when you installed it. You found an app image on the AUR? Yeah, it's not an app image. It's like the PKG build downloads the app image, puts it in a ZST package. When you install the ZST package, it puts the app image in application. I've installed a few of those too. It's a AUR package, but the package build literally it downloads the app image and throws it in slash opt or something. That's like, why didn't I just cut out the middle man, the AUR, and go and get the app image myself? Exactly. And with Deezer, for example, with Deezer, whoa, gosh, she's in the house. I heard somebody talking about Gen2, so I had to come and join. Gen2? Of course. You see, I used to do these things where I would install Gen2 on weekly live streams. On YouTube, I have a 70% retention rate off of seven and a half hour live streams. So I don't know what you guys are talking about. People actually do want to watch Gen2. Of course. Yeah, the three people that watch that stream, yeah, they sit there for them. They're the only ones watching that. You somehow managed to capture everybody that wants to watch that. You own the Gen2 compilation addict space. To be fair, I do think that I have low key of the one that inspired most of the people that actually started doing Gen2 installations. I believe I legitimately talked you into the how to install Gen2 video you posted like a year ago. Oh, well. Watching. Who, me? Distral hacking. You're distral hacking. I've done a couple of Gen2 installations on my channel. That wasn't the first one I did. This is the first one you did, but I think I was the one that I think I do honestly think that I talked you into the last one. What made me do that one was there were several other people doing them at the time. Of course. Gonna copy these trends. And they were all doing it on a live stream. And it's like, let me show you guys how to do this properly. I'm gonna pre-record it and cut out all the compilation and make like a 20-minute video instead of an 8-hour live stream. You still edited the wrong Make.com file, but that's fine. I did. But I fixed it because we went back in the next video when I had to install the DWM. I think I installed DWM. Yeah, it was next to Oregon DWM. I always go with the easiest things. Of which you still installed DWM the wrong way, but it's fine. Well, I didn't add it to the packages. I'm just gonna go build it myself from suckless.com or suckless.org. Well, you see, if you use the emergency Yeah, you can use emergency. You could actually have emergency patch DWM for you. For you, yeah. It's fantastic. It is, but yeah. It was a VM. I blew it away like about 5 minutes after I was done with that video. Let's see. Gen 2 speed runs. I do have a stage 4 tarball still, so I think I just went that by default. I mean, if we wanted to do some speedrunning as far as quick gen 2 installations, Josh has, you compiled on Raspberry Pi, so I'm pretty sure you finished it last. Yeah. Let's see. The of 27 Raspberry Pi's will actually, they take about 3.5 days to compile the kernel. 27 Raspberry Pi's. That's about equivalent to an Intel Celeron. These are Pi 2's running off of a 5V connection over a phone line. Yeah. No, we needed that kind of comedy. Thank you, Josh. You're welcome. I got a super chat from Bulgri. I probably mispronounced my Brazilian money isn't worth much, but I want to help a very good distro. Please keep working hard. Your work is incredible. Yeah, you guys that want to donate with YouTube super chats, if it's convenient, go ahead and I will make a donation to DarkZero over on Kofi later. Okay. Offal Pirate was super generous. 100 euro donation. Wow. Yeah. Offal Pirate. He's not that awful. Yeah. Joseph DeGarmo in the chat. Zero Linux, if you tell Calamari's to install with ButterFS, there's literally a button in the Zero Linux welcome tool that will actually enable Snapper for you. Yeah. Okay. There's a secret to this script. You did it right after I bished at him about it. I did it after you told me about it, but I didn't write it. It was chat GPT who wrote it. If it works. You're the enemy. Well, I didn't know how to do if statements. I'm not very good at if statements. So I was like chat GPT how can I write it? Can you write me a script that detects if the user's partition scheme is BTRFS only then install initialized snapper otherwise say no snapper, no BTRFS? I impressed it worked. I don't know if most people called it but Alex was triggered when you talked about chat GPT either because you know he's got an issue with that person whom I will not mention. Yeah. I don't know who you're talking about. Me neither. But chat GPT not only wrote it. I even went ahead and told it to design the the bash script with a message on top in ASCII and I started having fun with chat GPT but that's the only and last time I will use the chat GPT because there's one thing people don't consider when it comes to chat GPT sometimes you ask it to write code for you but that code is behind a proprietary license you can't know so you have no control as to the output that it will give you it will just scour the database that it has and give you whatever maybe one day you will use a code and the owner of that code will come at you and tell you hey you're using my proprietary code so there's a lot of question marks around that I can't speak for chat GPT but at least for GitHub co-pilot Microsoft considered it then they stopped considering it and then they were like you know what licenses they don't exist everything is public domain now just do whatever you want let's not think about this problem until someone has enough money to deal with it but we're Microsoft so no one has enough money to deal with it to deal with it exactly exactly chat GPT I would say the people that are asking chat GPT to write any kind of code for them they're probably the kind of people that are asking like examples of give me an example of a while loop and bash and chat GPT to spit out something but it's not like they're actually it's not somebody's program that they're actually going to then reuse I would think that's mostly what people are probably when you connect it to the internet like Microsoft did and then it's going to scour the internet and give you some code that you don't know where it comes from you can ask where it got its sources from just type sources in response to where it says it or just link all the sources that it used to find the code you can actually ask chat GPT would Richard Stallman be okay with this and it'll give you a yes or no answer okay that's one way of going it I think one of the problem people do tend to forget about with chat GPT it still exists over on stack overflow and forums things like that you don't really know where that code actually comes from whether it's come from a GPO project or anything like that so the problem still exists elsewhere it's just more I don't know chat GPT is just the hot thing to talk about right now so that's the place where the issue is really focused on that's the kind of thing I got when I told one of my guys on my discord that I had chat GPT write the code for the butter fs thing snapper thing he was like dude did you make sure that the code is legit dude did you make sure it's not behind a proprietary license I wouldn't use a tool that has chat GPT code in it I was like you have valid arguments but yeah this is general code it's an if statement so it's not like somebody wrote that if statement yeah a lot of it is just generic just reused code anyway is probably most of the examples it's not going to be something super unique and the fact that I told it to design the output my way it's my way it's not somebody who wrote it that way it says zero Linux snapper whatever whatever so I'm like okay I give it my own flair but still some code can be proprietary with your own flair but the code is still proprietary it doesn't change that fact and monad in the youtube chat says it's fantastic at reasoning about haskell code chat GPT I have not tried that chat GPT however however as a guy that has done somewhat efficient lua programming chat GPT can't write a lua script for the life of it yeah well lua lua it's really good is like the big popular languages lua obviously is popular but it's not like python it's not java no it's definitely not right it's not one of the large ones no but if you're going to be scripting anything you might as well script in lua because you know it is by far the fastest scripting language possible I was scripted in it so for the window manager I was going to go with awesome yeah I was going to go with awesome because of Brody here what are you what's that I was going to select awesome for the zero linux window manager edition because of you because you've been using it for so long and even you what I admire about your setup is it's exactly like mine I still have the exact same wallpaper of zero linux December edition I haven't needed to change it and in your awesome setup you had the same read in whatever abstract wallpaper for the longest time and you've been doing your videos on that system for two years now and a year a year and a half I don't remember it's been the same setup you haven't you didn't even change icon place that's because I was too lazy to find another one okay that was actually I believe it was generated by mid-journey actually yeah one of those mid-journey pictures I was like oh it looks cool I'm going to use that and then I just chucked it into I think I chucked into y32x to upscale it to 4k and then make it not as awful looking and it came out pretty good I would say yeah and what I wanted to say was that your setup proves to people if it works keep on using it and then I use hyperland I actually really want to like the awesome window manager but I have a real problem with the awesome window manager that rc.lua file is not a configuration file there are mandatory functions in that file that is not a configuration file if you have mandatory functions in there to be fair the same can be said about dwm as well it doesn't have a configuration file well I mean it's got .h file you can say that actually about a lot of the window managers that have their config in a programming language some of the imports or yeah like if you remove all of them yeah it ain't working honestly like if we're going to talk about a window manager that doesn't actually have a configuration file can we can we just point out like what is it bspwm where it's just like yeah you have to use sxhkd and then there's no configuration file there's an api there's an api that is cool and you just write in whatever language you want technically that's like the window manager that doesn't have a configuration file brody just brody he left us he decided he decided he just didn't want to be here and talking with us that's all it is shots fired at bspwm that's exactly what it is swm gremlin got him don't say anything bad about xmonad it will rejoin in like 13 seconds for everyone oh brody's back welcome back did jitzy just die jitzy reset the connection for everyone jitzy reset the connection that's what happened the jitzy servers just went to put we were going down one by one you see we thought it was honestly because I mentioned bspwm because you were the first one to go brody first person brody then dt then me then everybody else how was the last one in there I'm like where'd everybody go yep we're back jitzy servers reset I guess they reset the servers on every morning it's not every morning it's like on a set schedule and they run on a cron job or something like that if you remember I've asked the jitzy me about this before because they use systemd timers I think it's a legit cron drive that they run but they have to reset the connection because some people just never close their web browser and the fun thing is that if you just never close your web browser and you recently connected to jitzy that webRTC connection is still persistent just in case you decide that you're going to come back so they run a script like every 12 or so hours that just resets all the connections at once huh that makes sense I know I don't know what it is now I know a few years ago YouTube had a thing where 9 and a half hours jitzy me actually runs rel on youtube there was a time limit I think 9 and a half hours or something it was a long time but if you try to live stream for 24 hours you couldn't because they don't let somebody just turn on a stream and leave it running for a year they have a hard time you can ask lofi girl about that one but oddly enough there's a channel I follow called prime sanatos he's a greek guy he puts synthwave music running 24-7 his last stream was 3600 hours 3600 hours what 3600 hours wow it's probably still transcoding some of the news channel streams they just stream 24-7 I guess they have special permissions for some of these you got CNN russians they just leave it running all the time the channel takeovers they just stream elon musk the entire time you know yeah the ltt takeover with musk not a real one it was a fake elon musk but hey you could have fooled me it was a very real elon musk at one point before we got booted we were talking about awesome and lua and you were mentioning zero linux was considering an awesome window manager edition yeah but as soon as I saw the rc.lua when you sobered up and then you realized that I didn't sign up to read alien language thank you yeah there's a lot of commas there's a lot of commas everywhere it's like is it trying to make text to speech talk with commas my own and then pause and then mention the rest what birdie awesome config is great can I use birdie's awesome config my awesome config is basically the default with some minor tweaks to make it more annoying I don't know how to configure awesome don't ask me I was gonna say that because all you did was change the wallpaper at one point I had this really sick awesome configuration that evolved me adding over my line count was like 17,000 lines at one point in just the rc.lua file I really should have just modularized it but then one day I blew up an installation that's basically what I do for a living at this point and I realized I never backed up to a .files repo do I want to do that again because I just did nothing but take her with awesome window manager for a solid month and that was it I had a situation a couple of weeks ago I didn't mention it on camera and I had backups and I got all my get repositories of all my really important stuff I blew away my home directory by accident I don't know if that ever happened to you guys have you ever I was hoping I wouldn't the only one that ever rm-rf the wrong directory I'm ready to not have that happen I might have enabled automatic defragging and just watch it defrag my entire drive into non-existence well you guys just made a mistake well you see I was working on a bug report I wanted to see if I could replicate the issue guess what I did well that's one of those things with me I knew I did something when I did I was like oh did I really do what I just did let me do an LS nothing's there did you get that rock pit feeling sinking feeling in your stomach too my computer chair and I went straight to the kitchen I had six back of beer in the fridge it was only three o'clock in the afternoon and I was like I need one my personal favorite is when the hard drive actually dies while you're running the session so you gotta run the LS command and you just get a disk full error so then you run du because du is like the only utility that can actually like index disk space and then du fails because there's no detected disk anymore no but the way I blew up my my home directory is I usually here's how I do things I don't run butterfs I'm an XFS guy because of performance I transfer a lot of big files so I launched timeshift I had it configured to back up only the home directory because I have six drives in my system and I have one drive that's constantly empty I was like I need to use it for something I usually launch timeshift create a backup of my home directory on that drive format blow up the system reinstall and then bring back my home directory but for some odd reason I had forgotten that I removed timeshift and reinstalled it therefore it reset the settings so it backed up the system not the home directory so I ended up with no home directory so I restored an empty home directory so I was like and guess what there was in my home directory my whole entire zero linux project and the versions on github were outdated by months old my fun one was I had a hard drive that was dying you know when you boot up your system there's like for just a moment like a systemd hey checking things to make sure everything is good yeah yeah for about six months every so often that would fail and when that failed I had to do like a disc repair I just kept doing the disc repair I was like I'll deal with it later I'll deal with it later and then eventually eventually some of my videos started disappearing I was like did you make a video about this on one point? I think you did so I was like I should probably fix it now I shouldn't die so I got a new drive got everything off that got everything on the new one it was all good I lost about a week of videos but it's fine I've seen the same thing with those hard drives when they start failing you'll go to copy files and it just doesn't copy right what the hell is going on what's wrong with my computer? has any of you suffered a weird bug on linux where you are syncing files from one drive to another but the resulting mirror on the new drive they're all sim links I've never experienced that I don't know what happened but apparently our sync config went all wacky and it started creating sim links where all the files it was backing up I had videos I had music zero linux project when I opened them they were all sim links and I'm starting to have the same issue right now where that's another weird issue I'm having I don't know if it's me or something else I open my documents in my documents there's music downloads my documents but all those are sim links the same thing inside there everything is replicating as all the folders I don't know what's happening to my system but as soon as I release the second anniversary I'm blowing up this installation installing all over it maybe it's one of those chat gpt scripts going awry oh yeah I had to give up on a sim linking because I use getlab and getlab hates sim links so I just quit sim linking with ben I gave up on vs code because of sim links it doesn't like sim links either code does not tell you without a sim link it will just display the file I'll explain what happened to josh because it was on his episode you'll translate for us he was working on zero linux but he didn't want sddm or he wanted to change from sddm to lightdm or rise worse up when he opened the display manager sim link inside at c system d system it's a sim link so it will github will open vs code will open the one on your system on your active your installed active system because it's so he edited his own display manager dot service file not the one he was I was literally modifying the display manager dot service file on my host system not the display manager I wanted to be editing of course the next morning that's when I found out that I was working with the wrong file because my system no longer had a graphical session on boob he's like exactly a blue it's fine it just continues my theory that zero linux is a horribly broken operating system that nobody should use I have something to say about your latest video about installing making your own arch iso ho ho ho ho okay DT beautiful we got a real professional here wonderful video that's a good start you saved me from having to do that video nobody wants to do that video I didn't want to do that video I wanted to if I had power I was going to if I had power I was gonna do it I actually had that video planned two years ago I just made it but there were so many mistakes in that video there's going to be when you're not a distro exactly and this is what I wanted to point out is but that was the point of me leaving the mistakes in I could have went back and fix some of them but the people that are asking on how to use arch iso they're gonna make all those mistakes you got the main point out of the way that's the important part I gave them a rough outline of where to start I didn't forget you forgetting to enable the display manager that was one of them I gave them a little note about that in the comments that I annotated what I wanted to say was they know to go put the slash at the system D service files and I knew that when I booted in it I knew I was the display manager and it takes so long to rebuild the iso I'm gonna rebuild the iso and just for that welcome to my world welcome to my world because it is easy to if you want to build an arch iso with no desktop environment you can even include a modified version of the arch install script you can just take the arch install script that is included on the iso and modify it if you're not doing any customizations you actually don't have to go in there and edit the the root file system as far as the arch iso you don't need to do anything you can just build a plain arch iso off the arch iso yeah and we have well in Xero Linux we have a tool called abs it's called arch build script but we're changing the name because there's something else called abs on arch so we need to fix the name but this tool if you run it with the flag-v flag it will build vanilla arch latest packages vanilla arch and if you type vb it's gonna build baseline it's gonna build the baseline arch iso so with the minimal like you showed in your video and we have other flags to build Xero Linux the flag specific to Xero Linux to build the XFCE the GNOME or the KDE but your video was you pointed out something in your video that a lot of people should know the relaying folder the Etsy part of the relaying folder is your system it will end up on your system so what you did you did something very smart and you did it unintentionally you put the pacman.com another copy of pacman.com and Etsy you did very good that was just a guess on my part you know a lot of times I don't read the wiki half the time when I'm doing these videos so as soon as it didn't install the right packages I was like pacman is the problem so it's not in the right directory for one thing if you want to include the modified pacman.com with your repository on it on the end user's system after installation you will have to have your own version of pacman.com and Etsy so the idea is the way people should think about it I was actually surprised that they didn't already have an example pacman.com in Slash Etsy no considering an arch based distro yeah no no because what they do in Arch Linux they copy over the one that is in AirRoot.fs they copy it over to Etsy but when you customize it it no longer does that it only copies because a certain file unmodified has a certain hash certain I don't know I can kind of understand why they have the two different pacman.com because when you're building the ISO you may want to connect to different repositories like I do zero I have the ISO repo the ISO repo has calamaris it has no business being on the end user system afterwards so it's very complex it begins the more you want to customize the more complex it gets because you have to start adding the services from the services you have to for example like I told Josh with the display manager the way you fix it is right click properties on the file displaymanager.service because it's a sim link right if it's pointing to LightDM and you want it to point to LightDM you change in the links to part LightDM and you click OK and you don't touch that file hmm so on the packages x8664 you add LightDM instead of SDDM then when it starts the display manager is going to start LightDM because you have a sim link to LightDM so in the chat he can't use coffee OK I'll send you it's fundraiser fundraiser OK and I got a super chat from random characters I'm not sure what that name is supposed to be did everyone see Brody's rep response to DT I did that was awesome I was going to yeah I blocked that out for some reason you should I sent you the alternative link in Jitsi I did see another comment earlier from Amante Deso DT and Brody Robinson have you settled the argument about if Linux becomes complicated or not I feel like people assume that if you make a reaction video of someone or something I also think people assume like opinions or like facts when you share your thoughts or opinions or experiences but Linux is hard you're wrong back to the ArchISO real quick Steve one thing about the ArchISO thing that I didn't want to do too much customization on that video is because the ArchISO is very much like a base arch installation I can't install it the way everybody else will install it as far as the same programs and the same things it's a framework for you to do what you want with it I just explained the question the question it raised because you mentioned at the end of the video you mentioned that okay there's no way to install the system the way I did it yeah because I know that was going to be the number one question hey man there's no installer on it well I could add the Calamari installer to it at some point you just take the if you if you look hard enough you're going to see the ArchISO script yeah I mean yeah you can modify it's a bash script at the end of the day it's a bash script I thought it was Python but that's not what Python, it's a mix of match it builds the ArchISO you can always go through the command line installer and modify it just put DTOS and the DTOS but the people that are asking how to build an ISO they're asking how to build an ISO with a real installer that I can hit okay three times and be done okay so Calamari they're looking for something quick and easy yeah Calamari is the only one or end curses a simple end curses install or you could just write your own installer from scratch if you had a skill you can create your own end curses install where it will only have three prompts and it will do everything else automatically make something just for yourself there's not even any reason to have the prompts just automatically do it yeah the Arch Linux does that with Ariser with Ariser or Alice or whatever it's called it's just start and it will do everything automatically walk away it even installs his nemesis scripts and everything so yeah there's a million at one point I had an Ansible script that would install Gen2 oh come on the folks in the chat are wondering if Stallman is joining us today I sent Richard an email he didn't respond yeah Richard Stallman if he comes here we're going to be decapitated he's too busy looking for foot gunk I can't identify but DT did you get the Pondraiser link it's in jitzy chat I'm sorry yeah I missed the let's see if I can put that in the YouTube chat it's in the jitzy chat because I don't have YouTube open so I can keep my connections sane I got you but what's the distro maintainer's best friend a hot swappable drive a hot swappable drive correct my friend this is my hot swappable thing it's broken I have another one I replace it with another one and this one is a funny little thing I found for $2 it's a 3.5 or 2.5 inch to 3.5 inch drive bay if you have a 2.5 inch SSD let's see spare computer keyboard that has like a 30 foot extension cable on it another spare computer I just activated Josh so well I got a 6 bay icy dock in my machine so I got up to 7 drives that's an icy dock too are we showing things I have a phone I can't show the icy dock because it's in the computer but I mean apparently I mean they're showing stuff that's not even connected I'm actually using mine I'm just showing all these things here because apparently I have a distro maintainer now I have a golf ball I got a cell phone I have a 50 water bottle I have a couple we went comedy style right now we walked on attention to what yeah uh helmet I'm talking about hot swappable machines I have a server rack and everything's on rails so I can I can just pull it out so yes I do have hot swappable machines well people have been asking me for a while now when will I release the new ex-monad edition the new rice I'm using with the upcoming version of ZeroLenix it's got puji just go to everything that has got puji in the name that's what I did I imagine when you put out there you know that you were talking about considering spins I imagine you got bombarded with a plethora of requests yeah there was one guy don't say BSBWM again because it killed the stream last time some guy came to me and he wanted me to rebase ZeroLenix on Debian I was like why you would have to rebuild all the packages people have asked me the same thing why don't you just redo all your packages for Nix I was like why that's like I'd have to put in so many hours of work for what reason so I could distro hop one day I'll do a video on NixOS one day I keep saying it I've been putting it off I haven't asked a million times I've been putting it off I ain't gonna lie I'm not lying I'm sure it's on NixOS well NixOS the package manager on NixOS is kind of actually I think I have a proper video on NixOS now that I think about it well the NixOS package manager is a nightmare because I try to install because I watched Chris Titus text video Nix is the best package manager whatever I was like I'll install it in a VM I'll test it I try to install Telegram it pulls every PNG every file separately one by one one by one one by one there's like 50,000 files that you want to know why why because Nix is actually a source-based package manager that uses a binary cache we've talked about this Dark Zero source-based distributions or Josh wasn't here earlier when we well you see I was just driving home from work I actually just got home from work that's all hey DT is live right now well it's that thing that Steve was telling me about the other day but I really couldn't understand it so I was like now because for me when it downloads millions of small files it takes longer than installing one big file it does the Geeks package manager on GoodnewGeeks is the same way it takes me 45 minutes to compile the Alacrity terminal I was like I ain't got time for that ain't nobody got time for that I'm like okay by the way I want to ask you guys has any one of you tried the new Malvad browser I don't even know what that is that's the Malvad VPN collaboration with someone sent me an article about it but it just I added it as a flatback in my tool in my zero welcome tool for those who want to try it but I don't see anything special about it opens regular web pages GKSudo in chat here DTOS for Gen2 believe it or not I have an ebuild for it of course you do of course you do keep in mind I build all my packages as binaries so we're not compiling it's fine because all I'm doing is importing more configuration scripts for compiling things but Malvad browser I was like okay it's faster than Tor but it doesn't support Tor URL yeah it's it doesn't like so you can't connect to onion domains I feel like it can I know there's a website where I download GOG games from for free now they decided to go behind a Tor URL got onion URL I didn't properly check it out I know they're doing some privacy at all with the perks of a VPN yeah it has the Malvad VPN built in does it have the VPN built in you just answered that my question is why would they make a web browser that connects to the Tor network that doesn't actually connect to Tor domains because that just makes no sense and actually kind of just defeats the purpose of using Tor because at that point then you're just using a proxy server agree why wouldn't you just use the Tor browser like if you're really concerned yeah just use it Tor browser from time to time because I want to visit Tor website don't get me demonetized please Linux Tor website Linux Tor let's see so it doesn't work in regular browsers so I have to use the Tor browser for some reason but it's very slow very very slow I don't like the Tor browser well I wonder why it's super slow because you're basically just going through consumer grade gear through multiple hops at a single time you might be crossing the entire globe by the time you reach your destination which is literally right next door to your house exactly I was going to say the same thing it's not meant to be fast it's just meant to be secure secure exactly I keep looking at what Malvad browser is doing and I'm very confused to why it exists it seems like it's just built in VPN or something yeah it's a built in VPN that redirects all the Firefox traffic through the VPN service but I'm not seeing any way to confirm if it's actually using Tor by default no it doesn't use Tor I know I don't think so I'm sure someone did it correct us it's just a branding it doesn't use Tor or places Tor with the Malvad VPN so why does Tor keep getting mentioned then because it's a collaboration between Tor or name association for I think they forked the Tor browser they're just not using the underlying Tor oh so it's Firefox then yeah it's Firefox based sure okay whatever yeah when I was looking into it I discovered 10 other different Firefox based browsers Mercury browser Waterfox G browser G5 browser I don't think Waterfox is very well maintained these days they changed the name the G4 became G it's Waterfox G now it's Waterfox G the naming the naming is really horrible Waterfox G and you got the ones by Garuda the ones by I don't know in different Firefox based browsers out there you only found 10 I wasn't looking I just looked for a Malvad Malvad browser that's what I got I got 10 software so anybody's free to fork it I mean that's the nature of it well yeah the nature of open source at the end of the day everybody should just use GNU Icecat which is the best yeah and when you mentioned it's open source you opened up a can of worms the can of worms that yeah there are no tour connections at all going to it's just a name yeah they did the name simply because of its popularity so it's going to automatically generate a lot of download links it's kind of a an underhanded marketing kind of ploy that's kind of free for them that's kind of sad because you know I actually like what Malvad does as a VPN service but that just I just don't know about that one no that one is just Malvad's the one that you can pay with with crypto isn't it you can pay with crypto or you can even send them cash in the mail wow cause that's how I pay them they send them cash I literally write my account number basically what you do is you write your account number as a return address and then you just mail it and then you just mail them $5 yeah it works my account has been disabled yet well if you're not sending any serious amount of money but you're in the US Josh a lot of things get jacked in the mail you don't ever ship anything really expensive unless you're insured on that package cause the people that work at the post office and the people that sort it some of those people are shady I know oh yeah I've had stuff disappear in the mail in plenty of time I'm a Vivaldi user I'm temporarily using Brave for now because there is no Vivaldi for iOS as soon as I mentioned it on Postodon Vivaldi replied to me and they were like subscribe to our newsletter iOS version is coming real soon and if you're a brave user you're gonna get a big update because it finally implemented the biggest feature people have been asking about forever was the downloads it's now not that weird bar at the bottom of the screen now when you click download it doesn't display anything it's just got the little download button at the top in the browser like every other browser just letting you know something's downloading but it doesn't have that weird bottom third I honestly never realized that good new iSCAT but yeah you know what the new iSCAT is based off of Webkit no Firefox yeah but it has evil proprietary stuff that we gotta get rid of we're at a point in the stream I think we could just refresh the people on the the reason for that since we've been going for a while we probably shouldn't go too much longer we talked about your situation since earlier in the stream so refresh people on what's going on with you Steve which was the point of this stream the point of the stream is together my favorite YouTube content creators my number one there's no number one number two they're all the same try not to play favorites here the A team I woke up this morning first thing I did was watch Brody's Brody's video of last night talking about the various package managers and sub package managers and sub sub package managers because we're still missing that in the Linux world, more confusion yeah absolutely but the point of this stream is together some of my favorite YouTube content creators and try to raise the one thousand dollars that I need by the end of this month for two reasons one of the managers best man on her wedding in Serbia not here so I have to travel and I have to cover expenses because we have no power basically not enough power for me to continue working on zero Linux if you wanted to survive I need to make money somehow and jobs here are the highest paying job local job here is you get paid a hundred dollars a month and rent is 500 wow and generators is like 150 and so on and so forth so you can imagine I need to keep paying the bills somehow so your support to the links supplied by I supplied DT with so if you can help out that will be great you're not forced to and by supporting also you unlock access to the upcoming known release and the access to you really so you will get something in return as well it's not nothing for nothing it's not something for nothing so yeah that's it and we're not going to go on for much longer because as you can see I'm still recovering from a cold I've been coughing my lungs out and some of us are going to go back to bed yeah sorry to have brought you up so early Linux 2 Linux 2 everything is a tube I'm not a tube for the record I've been asked about this I did not name my channel to be related to DT's it just happened it was really weird one of those things where it's just like I'm gonna make a YouTube channel tube is in the website's name so I'm just making off of that who's this distro tube guy right yeah so I'm gonna say this guys thank you really thank you from the bottom of my heart for doing this this goes to show that in the Linux community there are still good people around we are very few for me it's it's exactly like you said Alex I keep seeing a lot of hate he doesn't like like okay this is your side I think it is which is weird because we had a good connection Jack wagons in the YouTube comments but honestly the people that comment on the videos on YouTube they're much better than some of the Linux subreddits that you go to yeah what's that out there no don't do that no no no no no no no but stay off twitter stay off the face page stay off all that stuff that's it I don't know what do you mean you don't have snap face I don't know if you two would let me actually post that link in the chat DT's all cleared up now oh no the network is great now it was just for those couple of minutes now it's pretty good people are now done downloading their windows updates and their systems are currently rebooting they turned the computers on that's exactly what happened yeah well what it is they turned the computers on they got the notification of the update and windows decided it was going to force them to reboot the system to install the update it's a forced reboot so we're going to lose the stream again here in about the next 15 minutes or so as they split up again and find more updates well I just wanted to finish by saying give us a last word here Steve and we'll get a last word from everybody else on the stream my last word is always going to be the same it's not when people put the start trying to charge for their time that means it's a negative thing free and open source does not mean free monetarily it means free as in freedom people got to differentiate the two terms freedom and free of cost in the very near future there will be a lot of packages especially on FlatHub the way they're doing things and if you don't know what I'm talking about go watch Brody's video about that FlatHub is going to start allowing developers to get paid for their time not the code you can still go to the code and mess with the code and do whatever you want but developers will be allowed to charge for their time for packages on the FlatHub you can just compile it yourself if you don't want to pay but what I'm doing with zero Linux spins is now being used across the board on Linux I'm not the only one doing it that's what I'm saying don't be too scared if you see something behind a donation wall donation means if you want you donate you don't want you can get the code and do whatever you want with it that's all it means don't be scared if you see dollar signs on a project okay the donation thing will still remain up until the end of the month so if you can support and help me reach 1000 bucks that'll be great thanks DT Josh give us the last word as we wrap this up Solus is not a dead project if you read their announcement yesterday more announcements coming tomorrow apparently Aiki and Josh Strobel are both back on the project to some extent but I don't know how much those are the two guys that basically made the distribution popular so we'll find but in the meantime I am running it as my distro that's interesting Brody give us the last word I've got Steve coming on the podcast later this week so if you want to hear more about what's going on and just more about what's going on with zero Linux whether it's the XFC stuff the GNOME stuff or just generally his situation that'll be out later in the week so be sure to go check that out over on Tech of a T besides that I don't really have much to say I hope that whatever you can whatever people can donate go ahead and donate I will send something after the stream it looks beautiful I card in I'm not going to do that with the camera on so later I'll do that but yeah I hope that you get at least even if you don't get to the entire goal I hope you get whatever you can that's the most important part if I don't get it all I'll manage with what I get but thank you all to all I need to thank everyone who donated during the stream I went from 6% and of course people will watch afterwards too but the people who donated during the live stream it took me from 6% to 27% so 21% increase wow alright Alex give us the last word so for me basically I just want to say it's been an honor to be on with Brody and DT and Josh and of course Steve's like my brother him and I talk all the time and you know I've totally support this guy 100% everything he does so I hope he gets that and more you know the work that he does like he said you know having stuff behind a paywall you shouldn't be afraid I mean nobody goes to work for free they expect to be paid you know and that's what developers do and that's my only means of raising money raising rent and everything and as for what I got going on I'm currently in the middle of building I just released my teaser video today but I am doing gaming series where I'm playing games on different OS's and stuff like that to show how cool it is and how good it's working so those are going to be members only videos for the most part some will drop as public ones members only so that's what I'm working on and I got other cool stuff coming along the way and I'm thinking about starting another podcast because I actually know a lot of people and work in the music scene here in Seattle and so I'm thinking about starting a podcast interviewing a lot of tribute bands and stuff like that so that's just a little side project I'm getting ready to start and Brody Brody before I go when would you be getting the steam deck that when valve will sell it in my country that's when I'm getting it sell it in your country? you can import it I imported it from Dubai because there's a store in Dubai I trust when I used to live there I used to buy everything from there I ordered it from there it arrived within three days but if you should ever get it try Chimera OS on it I know you heard of Chimera OS you must have heard about it they now support the steam deck with the steam UI and everything but why wouldn't you just run Zero Linux on it? haha I'll tell you why because it's not an immutable file system I did customize it to Zero Linux way but every update I have to redo everything because immutable I was setting you up there Steve it took me two hours to redo everything I'm not gonna do it again alright well I appreciate you guys hanging out Steve I wish you the best of luck I need to get better first I obviously need to take care of that since you mentioned Hyperland earlier in the stream you've been coughing like crazy don't do that Steve Foxry rename it and my last word is simply thanking you guys for getting together this morning for me and Alex and Josh evening for Steve I don't know what time it is for you Brody it's about 11pm oh it's real late for you that's fine time zones it kind of sucks I do want to thank the YouTube chat you guys were great we had some questions and comments a couple super chats which I'll pass along that money I'll donate to Steve's coffee later I forgot to mention one thing I did an interview with Foxry right after Brody did it with Foxry and at the end of the stream we ended the stream Foxry told me I preferred the interview with Brody at least he did his research and I was like that coffee right here I don't use Wayland I don't like Wayland because I just did the stream because I wanted to be to put myself in the shoes of a regular user not knowledgeable user a regular user who doesn't know anything so I put myself in the shoes Shots fired at regular users Shots fired at regular users but he's correct when he said he did say during the the interview was Hyperland is not for beginner users you want to shoot yourself in the foot you try Hyperland so I'll have that released for members only for the first two weeks and after that it'll be public after I come back from Serbia Thanks Steve, thanks everybody thanks YouTube and other than that let's all just wave by to YouTube