 Well, here we are again, and we're going to try to translate another sentence from the Hobbit. This is the third sentence of the Hobbit, and it describes the door of the hole, of the Hobbit hole, so let's see what we can do. It had a perfectly round door, so if I look in the dictionary, part is probably what we're going for in that the hole has as a component a door. So, PogBoo, X1 is a part of X2, so we would want setPogBoo in order to invert that so that X2 has as a component X1. So, I guess we'll just say ka. We don't need shu. SetPogBoo, PogBoo. Okay, and now we need a perfectly round door, so maybe just pa, low. So, one of a perfectly round door, so maybe we should just put this as a tanru. So, door, okay, so there's a vorme, which is a doorway, and there's vrogai, which is a door. I think that's probably the thing that we want. vrogai, and now we need to modify that by making it round, so we'll say round shukla, so it's a round type door, and now we need to modify that with perfect, so perfect. Yeah, sure, prane, prane, X1 is perfect in property, whatever, so prane, shukla, vrogai, a perfectly round door. Okay, like a porthole, so like, I think there's a word simsa, so that means similar to. So, I think that what we want here is, let's see, is there. So, in this case, maybe I should just use an incidental relative phrase, so it's not a round door, which is like a porthole, but a round door, which is like a porthole. What am I trying to say here? I don't want to use poi, because then we're pointing out that it's that particular door, which is like a porthole, as opposed to any other door which was not like a porthole. Noi just is like an additional, an additional description. So, noi simsa, which incidentally was like, now porthole, porthole, do we even have porthole? Well, it looks like we don't. And I thought this was supposed to give an error saying there's nothing like, there's nothing there, so a porthole is a ship's window, so maybe we should just use a tanru that says ship type window. So, here's a window, shanko, shanko, low shanko, and a ship, blotty is a boat ship or vessel, so blotty. Blotty shanko would be a tanru, meaning a ship type of window. Now, obviously, windows on ships are not necessarily perfectly round, but sort of maybe the canonical window on a ship, what you think of when somebody tells you, oh yeah, it's like a window on a ship, maybe. I'm not really too happy with this. Maybe I could say a ship type round type window, blotty shukla shanko, a ship type round window. So, this sort of further basically says that this is the kind of window on a ship that's round, so. Let's go ahead and put this in the parser to make sure that Noy gets attached to low prane shukla vrogai and doesn't get attached to anything else, because I hate when that happens. And yes, indeed, Noy is attached to low prane shukla vrogai. Now, this is important, because the next part of the sentence is painted green, and this is referring, obviously, to the door, not the porthole. That would be kind of silly. So now it had a perfectly round door, which was painted green. So, if I put poi here, right, let's just say poi melatu, just to have something to stick in there. And I go to the parser and I say poi melatu. What does this attach to? Well, it attaches to, it obviously attaches to the most recent sumti, which is what poi is supposed to do. And what we really want to attach it to is vrogai. So, what we need to do is we need to end this Noy phrase, and the way to end Noy, or poi, the way to terminate it is with kuho. So, if I simply stick in kuho, we can now see that the Noy phrase is now, at least it should be terminated. I'm trying to match up these brackets, let's see. So, here is the angle bracket for this. Here is the angle bracket here, so poi applies to this entire phrase, basically vrogai, which is what I want. So, I need to stick in kuho to terminate that. Now, painted green, which was painted green. A tanru meaning greenly painted, well, green, is shrinno, so shrinno. Now, paint, is there a word for paint? There is no word for paint, but there is a word for paint, shinta. Let's see, but shinta is a paint. So, if I were to say shinta, I would basically be saying that this, which was a green paint, which is not what I want, again. Shinta puhi, P1 paints surface P3 with paint P2, that's a possibility. That's pretty much all we've got. So, what's punji? Punji, no, it's just setting upon. So, I think we need something to do with shinta puhi, and what would we do? Greenly paints, it's not greenly paints. So, I suppose what we could do is if we had se shinta puhi, then that would mean that the surface, X1, is painted by X2. But, you know, since we're not going to have an X2, it just means is painted. So, shinta puhi, se shinta puhi. So, this basically means greenly painted. At least, I think that's what it means. Please correct me if I'm wrong. With a shiny yellow brass knob. So, which was greenly painted and which had, let's end the pui phrase and put in another pui. So, we can say, again, we can use pagbu because it has as component pui se pagbu, which had as component the door had as component a shiny yellow brass knob. So, again, maybe we can just make this a tanru. A shiny type, yellow type, brass type knob. Now, a brass type knob makes sense. The problem with tanru, and I probably made this mistake right here, perfectly round door. So, tanru, group to the left. So, when you've got, you know, one brivla followed by another brivla, followed by another brivla, the brivla group to the left. So, what this three-part tanru means is, first of all, pranashukla, perfectly round. And then that modifies vrogai, so perfectly round type of door. So, in this case, that makes sense. If it actually grouped to the right, which, again, it doesn't, then you would have to interpret this tanru first as shukla vrogai, a round type of door, and then it would somehow be a perfect round type of door, which doesn't make any sense. I mean, what is a perfect door? Well, I guess it's a door that completely fills its opening. I don't know. So, this, in fact, is correct. Now, when we get to shiny yellow brass knob, I don't think this is going to be a complete tanru, because if it was going to group to the left, then we would have shiny modifying yellow, in other words, it's shiny yellow, and then that would modify brass, so that it's a shiny yellow type of brass, and then that would modify knob, and I'm not really sure that's what we're going for. I think what we're going for is that the knob is both shiny and yellow and brass. Maybe yellow could modify brass in here, right, because brass does have a yellow type color, so maybe I could, for lack of a better term, tanru those two together. But basically what we're saying is that the knob is both yellow brass and shiny, so maybe we should go with that. So, what we want is sepagnu, so one of. So, let's go with knob first. Knob. All right, that's, oh look, here is actually a door knob, so we can get even more specific. A vrogai batke, which makes sense, door knob, right? But, I mean, we're kind of talking about a door anyway, so maybe it should be obvious. On the other hand, if we just say batke, maybe you might think of something else. So, let's just go with vrogai batke, right? Vrogai batke. Vrogai batke, a door knob. Okay, now we want to modify that by saying, where's the sentence? First of all, let's say that it's, well, is the brass shiny? Well, the knob is shiny too. Yeah, let's just have shiny, modified knob, why not? I'm just making an executive decision here. Okay, so here we go. Guzminra is shiny, so Guzminra. So, this is a tanru, meaning that it's a shiny type door knob. And for brivla, we can use zhe to indicate that it's both of these. Or should we use zhai, indicating that it's a mixture of these? Well, okay, so shiny is the optical portion of the knob. And yellow brass, well, yellow is kind of also optical, but brass is a material. And what I'm going for is, like in my example, black and white cat. You can't use zhe because that would mean that it's both a black cat and a white cat simultaneously. But here, I don't think there's any conflict between being shiny at the same time as being yellow brass. So I think zhe is fine. If it wasn't, I think I would use zhai, I think that's the right word. Or zhoi, I forget what it is. But in any case, now we need yellow and brass. So yellow, yellow is pelhu, pelhu. And now we need brass. There we go, lastu. All right. And I believe we need a bo here in order to group these two together. Because otherwise, if we didn't have this bo, then I think, according to the grouping rules, pelhu, guzminra, and pelhu would then modify lastu. Let's plug it into the parser and see how it groups without bo. Well, it doesn't group at all because I screwed something up. It's not that extra space, is it? No. Let's get rid of this last poi. All right, so that wasn't the mistake. What was the mistake? Poi sepagnu, pa lo guzminra. Well, let's just get rid of all the modifiers. So that didn't work. What mistake did I make? Poi sepagnu. Let me just try sellpagnu. No, sepagnu. Is it possible that it won't accept two pois? It won't accept two pois. I wonder why that is? Okay, I think the thing is that you can only have one poi phrase, which kind of sort of makes sense from a parsing perspective. Inside poi, I think I need to use an and. In other words, which was x and y. So I'm going to use gihe in order to use an afterthought here. So it was both. Oops, let me pull up this here. There we go. So which was greenly painted and containing or and contained. Now, again, I wanted to check the grouping of this tanru. So now let's take a look at it. All right. Okay, so we can see that without the bow, right, as I thought, guzminra, je pelhu, je bound its neighbors together. And now that entire thing is modifying lastu. So now I need to stick a bow in here. And if I stick bull in here, let's see what happens. Now we can see that bull lastu pelhu modifies lastu. And the je now joins together guzminra and pelhu bull lastu. So that's what I want here. Pelhu bull lastu. Okay. And let me just make sure that Vrogai Batke is now in this whole thing. Guzminra je pelhu bull lastu modifies Vrogai Batke. Excellent. So that is a shiny yellow brass knob in the exact middle. Okay. Could use, again, a relative phrase with a shiny yellow brass knob that was in the exact middle, or which was in the exact middle. Poi. So let me just stick my go-to phrase, poimlatu, right. So Poi is now modifying the shiny yellow brass knob, which was in the exact middle. So central. What I'm trying to go for is like, here we go, miju. X1 is in the middle. So what I want to say is perfectly in the middle. Poi, which was prana perfectly miju, miju in the middle of X2. So maybe I should just say prana miju va of the door. No, because does va refer to Vrogai Batke, or does it move up one level and refer to Vrogai? I am not sure. Well, I can always just say Lev Vrogai. If it's not perfectly obvious, it's in the middle of the door, not in the middle of anything else. Okay. Well, there you go. There is the sentence translated. So the whole had as part one of a perfectly round door, which was similar to a boat type round window. Oh, okay. Yeah, I made the mistake here. This is a boat type of round. What does that even mean? Bull, a boat type of round type of window, right? A boat type round window and that which was painted, which was greenly painted and had as a part one of a shiny and yellow brass knob, which was perfectly placed in the middle of the door. Okay. So I am definitely looking forward to your feedback on this translation. Can you get it even more compact than this? Hopefully we'll see that in the feedback. So shall I go ahead and try the next sentence? So here is the next sentence. Yeah, sure. Let's go ahead and translate this one. Let's add some bulk to this video. Now, before I continue, I did review the rules on using laterals as prosumpti. Laterals in Lujban is l'erfoo. L'erfoo, so this is basically a letter form. And basically it's left up to context, and it usually refers to the previously named sumpti. That begins with that letter. So if I did put va in here, you would say, oh, well, that's obviously something to do with V. So it could be Vrogai Batke, but because it's based on context, there's no reason for me to say that the shiny yellow brass knob was right in the middle of the knob. It doesn't make any sense. So it would have to refer to Vrogai. So I think I'm okay with using va here. Now, one of the other ways that I could possibly shorten this up a little bit is I could make a lujvo. So making a lujvo out of a tanru, according to the complete Lujban language anyway, is that happens when a tanru is used so often that it may as well be a single word. And it's possible, I guess, for me to combine shukla and shanko. So what I would do is I would use the rafsi for shanko. So we have shaho and shank. So I would be forced to use shaho because lujvo, as with all brivla, have to end in a vowel. And then if I look at shukla, I can either use shuk or shukl. So if I use shuk, shukshaho, as long as that's actually valid, let me just plug it into the parser and it doesn't break. So shukshaho would basically mean X1 is a round window. So then I could replace this with shukshaho. Now I'm not going to do that because I really don't like to form lujvo because I'm not a lujvomaker. I guess making a lujvo is sort of like saying that this concept is so common that it deserves its own word. And I don't know that a round window deserves its own word. So I'll just leave it at that. Now in terms of the second sentence, the fourth sentence, the door, okay, the door. So we know that the door is going to be va. The door opened onto a tube-shaped hall like a tunnel. So to open out onto, now when I looked up door, I also saw doorway, vorme. X1 is a doorway between X2 and X3. So maybe I can say that the door was a doorway. Let's see. No, because a door is not a doorway. Oh, this is interesting. Look at this. Here's a word. Zda shravro is a hall door slash front door. I wonder if I should just use that. No, I guess not. I mean, the English was just, you know, it had a door. The assumption is that it was a front door. So I won't make that assumption. Okay, so the door opened onto. Okay, so maybe I could use this definition down here, shravro. It basically means X1 is a front door between X2 and X3 of structure X4. So I could say that va, the door, was a front door between the tube-shaped hall. And I don't have to say what else it was between, because, well, I guess it's pretty obvious it's a front door, so it would be between the outside. So I could say that va was shravro, shravro, shravro, a front door between, so now I have to say between a tube-shaped hall. So between palo one of a. Okay, so tube-shaped hall, this would be a tube type of hall, right? So let's look at tube, tube, not roub. Tube, right? Tubnu, tubnu hall. No, it's not a city town hall. It's not a hall door. I thought there was a hallway. Word? Yeah, hallway. So, nerklagi, nerklagi. Okay, so the door, the door was a door between, or in this case, to a tube type of hall, like a tunnel. Well, we've done like before, noi simsalo, noi binding to the most recent sumti, a tunnel, all right? What's a tunnel? Tunnel. Kevluha, a tunnel. Okay, now here's this colon, so we're basically now talking about the tunnel. We could use ije, ije, and ka, the tunnel, was very comfortable, or the tunnel was a very comfortable tunnel. So ka kevluha, the tunnel was a tunnel, or it was a tunnel, a very comfortable tunnel. So there's that word comfortable again. And kufegao, I could use kufegao again. X1 makes X2 comfortable, so it makes comfortable. A kufegao, kufegao kevluha would be a making comfortable type tunnel. That's fine. Very, very, what can we do there? Very. Actually, I think the word for very is muche, for obvious reasons. It's much in extreme, it's much in property X2. So what we want is muche. Okay, now here's, here we're going to run into a problem. A much type make comfortable type of tunnel. Does that make sense? Yeah, I guess so. A much type of making comfortable type of tunnel. I could be wrong, but let's just go with that. So a very comfortable tunnel without smoke. All right, without. We know that there's a word for that. Without. Lacking. No, I did it again. Again, shlahu, shlahu, which was poi, maybe which was incidentally, or which, which was. Yeah, I think, I think, I think we want to use poi instead of noi because it's specifically a tunnel without smoke. It's not a tunnel that happens to be without smoke. So, so poi, shlahu, which was without smoke. Smoke. Don more. Don more without smoke and with. That's great. So we used without. Because the rest of the sentence is going to be about with. So maybe I should just go with what I used before with. What did I use before instead of shlahu? I can't even remember now. Can. Oh, filled with. No, I don't want filled with. Filled completely filled because then not should know what just means not completely filled. Maybe it means partially filled. Right. So, so Vasru, Vasru Nolo Donmo. So, which contained no smoke. And now I can use. Yeah. Can I use a year here? No. I need. Well, it's, it's going to be a breed detail. Right. So that would be. Yeah. Yeah. With. Well, actually, it's not going to be a breed detail. No, no, no. It's going to be. Yeah. Let me just add. Yeah. And plug this into the parser. Plug this into the parser. First of all, to make sure that I haven't screwed up. I have screwed up. Come. Let's just get rid of. That's not the problem. Is it. Poi. Poi Mlaatu. Hmm. What went wrong here? Oh. Right. Because there's no Sumti here. This is a celebrate and you can't have an incidental phrase for a celebrate. Let's see. It was. Wow. Okay. It was a tunnel. Which was without. Okay. So the problem is the problem is that what I've got here is a celebrate and poi modifies Sumti. So what I really want is something in here. Which means is and I think there is a word for that identical. There's mean to. Wasn't there like do. So this is a celebrate that means that X one is identical to X two. So the tunnel was identical to. There we go. It was identical to a much making comfort tunnel. Which was cat. So. So that is what I need here. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Go. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. To. Do. Do. We'll go. Do. Then. We'll come up with a new term for somebody who's living there and who haven't had any. Make sure. I'm lying to you. All. Quick. Don't watch this. So. What happened? I'm going to watch my third. does group with nomlatu which means that lo danmo and I wanted to make sure that no did not apply to this entire group here so so it's eh and floors tiled and carpeted so what we really mean is tiled and carpeted floors so well first of all what's a floor it's a digi centa interesting lull guy is a floor covering we might be able to use that lull d is just a floor I think digi centa is what we want um because that is literally the floor of a building so la digi centa so it had a floor but basically it had a floor carpeted so lull guy does mean carpet but what we actually want to say is that the floor was carpeted I don't think we can say a carpet type floor um or can we what's a carpet type floor honestly I think it can only mean a floor with a carpet on it or a carpeted floor lull guy sure let's go with it and now let's look at tile tile a tile okay it's not going to be a roof tile or a reptile no um tapla so tapla gel lull guy so this basically means a um a tile type and carpet type of floor which I think means a carpeted a tiled and carpeted floor provided with polished chairs so um can we continue with eh because vasru means um it's the exact definition again just contains holds sure contains uh contains polished chairs eh lull chair dizu and what is polish okay spali um oh okay but polish would be test spali so I think I need test spali um I could even go ter spali in order to uh to to make that a lugevo I mean I really don't see why why it can't be a lugevo right because ses spali test spali vest spali um those those may as all may as well be be lugevo um there's only one meaning to it right so ter spali is there ter ter spali no I mean it's it's just test spali which which is fine I mean we all know what ter spali means um back to spali okay so um polish x1 so a polish type chair ooh yeah I don't know if that's entirely clear what that means because I could think of a shoe shining chair right a chair that's specifically for for polishing ooh okay hmm well chairs which were polished los dizu poi test spali uh chairs which were polished sure let's do that los dizu poi ter spali I'm not sure if I need uh cool let's go ahead and plug this into the parser see if I've made any mistakes no everything looks pretty good so far um and with uh or um containing uh chairs that were polished and lots and lots of pegs for hats and coats okay what's a peg peg no not the parser peg there's a pin slash peg pizne but I thought there was like a clothes hook what's that clothes cook no that is a clothes hook so I think we can use um lots and lots of pegs so lots and lots of clothes hooks um so many so he I think there's an additional let's see indefinite numbers let's look at indefinite numbers most many can I just say many many I don't want to say too many um much of maybe many many can I say so he saw he does that mean many many so he saw he well yeah I guess it does I mean the parser does sort of combine so he saw he so um many many I don't know if that's that's reasonable but I'm gonna go with it um many many uh clothes uh what were the clothes hook or clothes cook tafa genhu tafa get tafa genhu um kuhou uh eh containing many many of clothes hooks uh for hats and coats um I I could say hat and coat type of uh pegs of clothes hooks um hat and coat type yeah sure why not so what's a hat a hat is a sedatahu uh it's not specifically for top hats but you know just hats sedatahu lor sedatahu je a hat type and uh coat costa je costa tafa genhu so many many of hat and coat type of clothes hooks I think that's perfectly reasonable the hobbit was fond of visitors um I would like to use um reason because right the reason for lots and lots of pegs for hats and coats was that the hobbit was fond of visitors um but now I don't think that if I use something like uh I can never remember what it is kuhi no uh kuhah so riha uh riha is uh physically because of um and what's the other one there is the physical which is sort of like the mechanical cause and then there is the human reasoning cause and I can't remember what it was let's look at the justification motivation yeah muhi motivation that's what I'm looking for so muhi because of motive now I'm not sure if I could just stick muhi over here right because I think that if I just put muhi over here that is going to apply to the most recent celbri which is way back here vasru um muhi uh lanu mlatu right because of catness let's uh let's just stick this entire thing up in the parser and see where muhi applies to so it applies to this angle bracket here which starts right here yes yes I think it starts over here so in other words it contains all these things because of catness um and really we want to apply muhi to just this to just uh this section right over here why do we have many many uh clothes hooks hat and coat type clothes hooks so how do I apply muhi to just this phrase when I don't have a celbri and I think the answer is going to be add a celbri so that means that um to this celbri I'm going to need to break it up and do something like giha vasru and then this right so that muhi now applies to vasru I don't really like that but I don't know what the alternative is lanu mlatu um so now we could see that muhi applies to this bracket right over here and we can see that this bracket begins right here which is exactly what we want so um I would definitely like your feedback on this is this uh is this the only way of doing it or is there a more compact way to do it so um because of the hobbit being fond of visitors lanu le reader hobby shu fond or liked orange sure nelshi shunelshi law visitor visit or um vitke guests law vitke and that's the sentence that's it so let me read it out in lojban eva shravro palo tubnu nerclaji noisimsa lo kevluha ije ka du lo mucce kufegao kevluha poi vasru no lo danmo e lo tabla gelolgai digio senta elostizu poi terspali kuho gihe vasru sohi sohi los sedata who jakosta tafagen who muhi lanu le reader hobby shunelshi lo vitke and uh putting an english gloss on that the door uh was a doorway to a um tube type hall incidentally like a tunnel and a tunnel identical with um a very making comfort tunnel which was uh which was containing no smoke and contained um tiled and carpeted floors and chairs which were polished and filled with many many hat and coat type clothes hooks because of the fact that or uh because of um the hobbit being fond of visitors i think that's it so so that that was uh pretty good i think straightforward uh not very difficult translation again there are a few issues with this um namely in um is this valid saying mucce kufegao to just mean you know very very x sort of thing um is this valid well it is valid but is this the the best way of doing it to to break up the sentence so that muhi applies to this and only this part of the sentence and so he saw he is that really the done thing um and let's see i don't really think i have any other weirdnesses in here i would like to make the the first part of the sentence a little less wordy i mean the the door was a door or the the yeah the door was a door um well it was a door right um so maybe that's reasonable um it was identical to okay it being the tunnel the tunnel was identical to a very comfortable tunnel and uh one thing that i really should fix though is ter spolly should actually be cell spolly because if we use set spolly that means that surface x one is polished by agent x two with polish x three so polished should really be cell spolly um and in that case it's not a polish type um chair but a uh it's not a a chair it's not a polish type chair it is a polished type chair so i think it's valid to just do that so there we go um those are the next two sentences in the hobbit translated um thank you for watching again i'm really interested in your feedback um even if it's just a thumbs up or a thumbs down if you if you roll that way um but i'm more interested in um in uh lujbanists or lujban fans um interpretation of this and feedback on my translation so until the next time i shall see you thanks for watching