 Welprnwnd ar unrhythetaeth, i chi gyd. Ysbryd angen, mae'n meddwl y Dyn ni'n meddwl yng Nghymru. Mae'r dyn ni wedi'r cyffredin newydd yma ar gyfer y bydd ymgyrch y pandemig ymddangos yn fwy fwy fwy fwy fwy fwy fwy fwy fwy fwy fwy fwy fwy fwy fwy fwy fwy fwy fwy fwy fwy fwy fwy fwy fwy fwy fwy a ymgyrch yn effeithio. Mae'n meddwl yw'r ddwy'n meddwl ar gyfer y bydd ymgyrch yn fwy fwy fwy fwy fwy fwy fwy fwy fwy fwy. Aelodd dŵr, byddwn yn cyffredin newydd ymgyrch ymgyrch y fwy fwy fwy fwy fwy fwy fwy fwy fwy fwy fwy fwy fwy fwy fwy fwy, ddod o'r cyflawni. Mae'r ddau'r ddiwylliant yn yw'r ysgol yn dda. Ond mae'n fwrdd yn ymddi'r colli'r hynny, ond ond dwy'r virus yn hyn yn ei gael. Ond yn ymddi'r mae unigodd sgol, ydych yn fawr i'r ddweud i'r ddweud i'r ddweud i'r ddweud i'r ddweud i'r jodd. In Scotland, strict new measures have been introduced, pubs and other hospitality businesses have been closed completely in the central belt. And we are told that on Monday the UK Government will tighten restrictions in parts of Wales where the level of the virus is higher than anywhere here, sorry I'm going to be a pun, will tighten restrictions in parts of England where levels of the virus are higher than anywhere in Wales. And further afield in Europe, lockdown measures are again being introduced because the virus is once again out of control. Here in Wales too, the virus is waking up for winter. The approach we are taking is to balance the need to act together to turn back the tide of coronavirus but only to restrict freedoms where we know that that has to be done. And this is a difficult balancing act. Where we can, we will do our very best to change the rules to make life easier while always putting the protection of health at the forefront of everything we do. Last week we changed the local restriction rules to enable people who live alone and are single parents to form a temporary bubble with another household in their local authority area to deal with loneliness and isolation. Now we intend to amend the regulations to allow children to take part in organised sporting activity if these take place outside their county boundaries. Now I know that these are small changes in a difficult national picture and that difficult national picture is reflected in the figures we have seen this week. The number of people admitted to hospital with coronavirus in Wales has been rising over the last seven days. More people are testing positive every day. There are more reports this week of coronavirus in care homes in Wales and sadly more people are dying from this deadly disease and our thoughts as ever are with those people's friends and their families. Now as ever in these sessions we try and describe the state of the virus and I want to show you three slides which demonstrates how the virus is behaving in each of the areas where local restrictions are in place. Now it's important for me to say that these local restrictions have not yet had a chance to make a difference in many parts of Wales. The area where they have been enforced for the shortest period is north Wales but this slide demonstrates how very sharp, steep and continuing the rises in north Wales have been particularly in the north east of Wales. You see the number there in Flintshire and Denbyshire well above 100 people in every 100,000 in the population. We're also closely monitoring the position in Gwynedd in north Wales. Gwynedd isn't on the slide here because there are no local restrictions currently in place but cases have been rising rapidly in Gwynedd as well. We are working closely with the local incident management team including the local authority to understand what is driving those figures better and to consider whether further measures are needed to control the spread of coronavirus in that part of north west Wales as well. This second slide shows the case of coronavirus in four local authorities in the centre and south west of Wales and again it shows just how sharply cases have been rising in Swansea, in Bridgend and in Neathborthalbert since mid-September. The bottom line you see there is Camarventia and in Camarventia it is only Llanelli which is subject to local restrictions and the good news there and its early and modest good news is that you can see towards the end of the period cases beginning to fall in that part of Wales. Now I know that these slides are not on the screen for very long and we'll make sure that they are there on our own social media channel so that people can see them and look at them in detail and for longer. The final slide today shows that where the restrictions have been in place for longest and that's in parts of south east Wales there is evidence that the rise in cases has slowed and that the virus is beginning to come under control. You see that most dramatically here in the case of the county of Blaenau Gwent where at its peak that yellow line showing that there were over 300 cases per 100,000 of the population and that number has come down sharply and is now below 100 and those improvements where we are seeing them are due to the efforts of everyone living in those parts of Wales doing the everyday things which make the greatest difference and helping us all by sticking with the new restrictions and I know that that is true in all those parts of Wales where we've had to impose these local measures but even in south east Wales where we are actively exploring next steps with local authority leaders and others we're not yet at the point where the pattern is stable enough to allow us to begin to relax restrictions. Now I understand of course that it is against this difficult background that people are worried and anxious about what the next few months might hold. We're all of us worried about the virus and about the impact of further measures on our health and our families and on our livelihoods and it's entirely understandable that people can feel frustrated about having to live with ongoing restrictions in their lives. So many of us live in one part of Wales but have family members and others who are important to us in other parts of our country and we're separated from them and it's really difficult and frustrating to find ourselves back in the position we faced earlier in the year but we do know too and I know that you know too that unless we take actions now the position will get worse not better and as hard as we are working with our local authority colleagues with the health service and with the police there is no quick way of making things get easier or better soon. Over this winter we will all be asked to make further sacrifices to protect the most vulnerable to prevent our NHS from being overwhelmed and to keep as many businesses open and livelihoods operating safely as safely as we can and the Welsh Government will be with you on every step of that journey. The decisions we will take will be carefully and thoroughly made. If we need to take further action to keep us all safe we will not hesitate to do so where the health of people in Wales is at stake and every time we act we will report to you because coronavirus cannot be turned back by government alone as has been the case since all this first started it is only by working and acting together that we can keep Wales safe. Diolch yn fawr iawn wrth gwrs i chi gyd. I'm going to begin taking questions now and all the answers will continue to be broadcast until the end of the press conference live on our own social media channels. But the first question this afternoon is going to come from Tilleri Glynjones of BBC Wales. Diolch, Tilleri. Nawn dad, diolch yn fawr iawn clif wedi dod gos gawn i dda i atab yn Gymraeg os gwelwch yn mef, can I have both answers in Welsh. We're expecting an announcement this afternoon from the Chancellor Rysi Siunach about support for businesses if further lockdown restrictions are placed on businesses. Have you had reassurances from the Treasury that those plans will apply to businesses in Wales that may be forced to shut by any further Welsh government restrictions? Well, we're looking forward to hearing what the Chancellor has to say this afternoon and glad that he has listened to calls which have been made by the Welsh Government, the Scottish Government and by businesses in those parts of England who have been forced to restrict their operation or to shut because of coronavirus that more help is needed to support those jobs and to support those livelihoods. We were in correspondence with the Treasury yesterday to make sure that if there is money that will go to support businesses in England that that money must be available to support all parts of the United Kingdom. Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales as well, where we too have to take action to bear down on the virus. We are yet to hear from the Treasury the mechanism by which that will be achieved, but the principle that support that is available to one part of the United Kingdom must be available to all is a principle that I'm sure this UK Government will want to go on honouring. Dyn ni ddim wedi clywed o ddiwrth drosolus yn barod am syt, mae nhw'n mynd i cefnogi busnesau yma yng Nghymru, ond y regwyddor, os mae nhw'n mynd i rhoi cefnogaeth i busnesau yn llwygur, mae nhw'n rhaid i yr un cymorth bod bydd ar gael i busnesau yn unrhywle anoddenus yn edrych dwi'n siŵr beth bydd y regwyddor yna yn taro gyda'r Llywodraeth a Dynus yn edrych. O dwi'n ni'n siar ac gyda'r drosolus ac gyda'r Llywodraeth yn yr albann ddwy, a ni'n edrych ymlaen i clywed a mynylion gyda'r gynhyrchu o'r prymhorma. Yn fawr iawn, Ffwrng Gething said on the radio this morning that he was concerned that some people still didn't think the virus was real. Are you worried that there are still some people out there who don't take the virus seriously enough? Well, we know that there are, at the fringe of Welsh society, still groups who try to promote the idea to others that the virus is somehow not real, that it's just made up, that it's a hoax, that it's things that governments and other are trying to pull you the wool over your eyes about it. But that is right at the very fringe of things in Wales, and of course absolutely untrue. The virus is completely real and completely still wreaking its havoc in the lives of families in different parts of Wales. There are other people who, I think, relaxed their guard during the summer months who believed that because things were improving we were on an inevitable journey to the elimination of the virus. Unfortunately, that has not turned out to be true, and some people are still catching up with the fact that the virus is back, and in some parts of Wales, back with a vengeance, and that we've all got to return to the things that were making a difference earlier in the year because we need that difference to be made again now. But the huge majority of people in Wales, I think, still want to do the right thing, want to make sure that they're making their contribution, and as I said when we show that slide of improvements in some parts of Wales, it's because of those efforts that we can still have confidence that by acting together we can still turn the tide on the upswing in the virus we've seen over the last few weeks. Mae rai bobl yn hymry o'n i fyrbach y dyn nhw sy'n dal i ddweud, dydy coronavirus dim yn digwydd, jyst rhywbeth mae llawoddraeth y bobl eraill yn dweud i we. O'r cwrs mae hwnna ddim yn wir, mae coronavirus dani am y angymru, mae'n cael effaith drwg dros ben mewn nifer o'r lefydd yma angymru. Mae rai bobl eraill dros yr haf wedi tyni awers o'r mae pethen a wella ac oeddwn i'n ar y ffordd i'r poit ble oedd coronavirus ymynd i dyflani. Yn anffodus mae hwnna ddim wedi digwydd y mae rai bobl, ddim cwyt eto wedi newid be mae nhw'n neud i dylio'r lan gyda'r ysafaelfa ni'n wynebu ar hyn o bryd, ond y mwyafrif fawr o bobl angymru. Yn dal i neud popeth mae nhw'n gallu neud i helpu ni gyd i troi coronavirus yn ôl. A pan oedd o'n ni'n dangos y slaid am beth i wedi digwydd yn y de dwy rai, mae hwnna'n dal i dangos, pan ni yn gweithio degilydd fel na, ni yn gallu cael effaith positif a dyna beth dwi'n siŵr a mwyafrif fawr o bobl angymru yn isio weld ac yn isio neud. Thank you. For the avoidance of doubt, are you considering taking the same action that we are seeing in Scotland, and if you do take that action, what measures will be in place to support those businesses, aside from what the Chancellor may or may not amount? James Lee approach we are taking in Wales is to match the actions we take to the source of the problem. So if we were to see in Wales areas of coronavirus rising because those cases were traced to hospitality businesses and that was why numbers are rising, we would of course take action to deal with that, but it is really important that actions match the cause of the problem and when I was talking with the Chief Constable of Gwent and others yesterday, the evidence on the ground in that part of Wales was that the numbers that are rising are not being caused in hospitality businesses. So we will take action in relation to hospitality where the evidence tells us that that is the cause of the problem and if we need to take action we will and it will be a repertoire of measures including the sort of measures you have seen in Scotland and some of the ones that are being trailed across our border in England and then we will need to draw on the same stream of funding that the Chancellor is about to announce for businesses in England so that we can support businesses in Wales in the same way. Thank you. Secondly, can you try and explain to us what's going on in Cwmchart Organic? There are now three hospitals with three separate COVID outbreaks unlike any we've seen in the whole of Wales for the entirety of the pandemic. It seems like awfully bad luck for that health board or is there something else going on that you can enlighten us on because it seems to be an outlier in what's happening in those hospitals? Well, the Cwmchart Organic area is not just an outlier in relation to what is happening in hospitals but you will have seen from that slide that the incidence of coronavirus in that part of Wales is higher than any other part of Wales. We have local authorities there where the numbers are the highest of all and where the positivity rates are the highest of all. So, not only are the numbers elevated but when people come forward to be tested, I think I'm right in saying that some parts of the Cwmchart Organic area are the only part of Wales where positivity rates are above 10% and it is just inevitable that when coronavirus is spreading in the community at that rate that you see flows onward into hospitals at a rate that you will not see in parts of Wales where coronavirus is not at the same level. So, the position in the hospitals is a reflection of the position in the community and that part of Wales has seen more coronavirus and a steeper rise in coronavirus than elsewhere. The slight ray of hope is that numbers have begun to come down in the community particularly in the RCT area and that people are working very hard indeed to make sure that where coronavirus enters a hospital with someone who is a positive case that everything is being done to make sure that that isn't spread more widely amongst patients who are already admitted. James, thank you to Will Hayward at Wales Online. Thank you First Minister. People are clearly feeling lockdown fatigue at the moment. South Wales police have spoken today about issues of non-compliance. How significant do you think this problem is and how does it affect your ability to control the virus in Wales? Well, I think we've got to be alert to it. Well, there's no doubt that people who are being asked again to take measures in their own lives to restrict their freedoms and stop them doing things that in any other time we would take for granted. That is a bigger ask than it was earlier in the year. Nevertheless, the big picture continues to be that most people want to do the right thing. When we were talking, as I said yesterday to senior police officers in the Gwent area, their estimate of compliance was still that it was at 95%. When they have had to stop cars because of travel restrictions, they are not finding people travelling across borders other than for the permitted reasons. So, while there is fatigue and we've got to be aware of it, I still think that the big picture is that most people want to know what the right thing is to do and then to make their contribution. It's why, though, we need to work together to be able to demonstrate to people that if those efforts begin to succeed, we can find a path out of this. Those two small measures that I mentioned at the beginning of what I had to say earlier of allowing single adult households to form an alliance with another household, allowing young people to travel across borders for organised sporting activities, they're small signs of how we can move these restrictions back out of people's lives provided we act together to get on top of the virus. Thank you. Previous Welsh Government modelling has said that we will see a peak at the end of December. Has the recent rise changed the severity or the timing of that peak and could it now be peak miles before Christmas? There's no new concluded modelling to replace the modelling that we published some weeks ago but the people who work on the modelling for us are updating that all the time. The early onset of the virus has been sharper than was originally predicted in the model and we will continue to get advice from them as to whether or not they think the timing of the peak has altered and whether the steepness and whether the peak of the rise in coronavirus needs to be change in our planning as well but we don't have that as yet and the current planning assumptions are the ones published by us I think now some three or four weeks ago. Thanks. We're over to Dan Bevan at LBC. Good afternoon First Minister, thank you. This week the President of the United States retweeted some criticism of the Welsh Government's approach with regards to rolling local lockdowns. I wonder what your reaction to that was. What you feel his messaging says when he talks about the drug that he took in his recovery to record, excuse me, he described as a cure. I wonder what you thought on that. Well I think the tweet that the President retweeted said that if Joe Biden were to be elected then the United States could look like Wales and there are very very many people in the United States who would be absolutely delighted if they had the levels of coronavirus that we have over there, if they had the sort of health service that we have available here over there and if they had the sort of government that conducts business on behalf of their population in the orderly and careful way that we do on behalf of the Welsh population. So I think many people will have read that tweet and will be thinking to themselves if only that could be true. Thank you and with regards to those rolling lockdowns you've already mentioned about potential fatigue coming as a result of these local lockdowns. So do you think that's hyperlocal lockdowns or at least producing maps like some council areas have where they show where the little hotspots are in these council areas? Do you think that could be a potential way of mitigating sent fatigue? I think those maps are really useful for people because they demonstrate where coronavirus is to be found in a local area and how the pattern of coronavirus is changing as well. I think we've demonstrated down that where we used a local restriction in Comarthenshire, you know in the Llanelli, in the south east corner of Comarthenshire, rather than further north and further west where there wasn't coronavirus in the same level of circulation, that that was a sensible thing to do and the slide showed that there's been some success as a result. If we are able to reduce restrictions and tighten the areas around which those restrictions are required that is certainly part of the repertoire of actions we are thinking about in the Welsh Government and indeed we're discussing with local authority leaders only yesterday. Dan, thank you to Mark Hutchins of Five Life. Diolch, thanks very much. There appears to be some mixed messaging about the hospitality sector and you referred to comments by Gwent Police there and yet it's hard to think that people behave differently in pubs in Wales from how people behave in Scotland and England. Do you have up to date data as to what proportion of cases can be linked to the hospitality sector? Mark, I don't think I could probably accept the basic premise of the question. If you think of the position in Scotland, for example, when there was an outbreak in Aberdeen, it was very clear that that was linked directly to hospitality and the actions of the Scottish Government were to close pubs and bear down on that industry. A couple of weeks later there was an outbreak in Glasgow where the Scottish Government didn't close pubs at all because the evidence was that that was being driven by household transmission, not by pubs. So it is perfectly possible, I think, that the impact of the hospitality industry on local flare-ups does differ from place to place and that's why in the Welsh Government our aim is always to find out what is driving the numbers in a locality and to match the actions we take against the cause and where hospitality is a problem, then we would take action. But if there isn't evidence that that is what is driving the numbers, then I don't think it's proportionate and I don't think it responds to the many people who are employed in that industry to take action where we don't have the evidence that that is what we need to do. So we do have evidence, so we collect the figures and we were hearing figures yesterday from colleagues in different parts of Wales at the number of cases that are being driven along by people returning to Wales from elsewhere who have the virus, the number of cases for example that are being produced by student populations coming back to Wales, the percentage of the number of cases that are happening in care homes in Wales, the number of cases that are happening through household transmission, so that sort of fine grained detail is available to us, reported to us by local authorities or TTP teams and others and it's complex. It doesn't point in a single easily communicable direction but it does allow us to try to match the actions we take against the cause of a problem in different parts of Wales. So just to clarify my extra half of the question that you haven't got a figure for the hospitality sector cases proportion and the second question people often ask me is if I know I'm sure they ask you much more regularly when are we coming out of local restrictions. It's the case isn't it that you want to see at least two consecutive weeks of much lower figures than we've got at the moment, so on that basis that suggests doesn't it that every area of Wales under lockdown at the moment is at least two weeks away from coming out and probably several more. Well we use two basic tests and then we have more sophisticated information behind it. We use the positivity rate and the threshold there is if it's more than 5% then you need to take action. It's below 5% in the gwent area now as a result I think of the actions that have been taken and we need a seven day incidence figure, you know the number of people who are suffering from it to be to be below 50 and in parts of gwent over the last week it has bubbled up and down, slightly above, slightly below and we need as I said in my first remarks a more reliable certain pattern of that figure being below the 50 threshold and sinking further below it. I don't think we necessarily need another two weeks for that to happen in some parts of Wales and we review the restrictions every seven days so we will be back around the table again before Thursday of next week. You've got to offer people some hope that the actions they are taking will lead to an improvement and I'm very conscious of that in relation to the question I was asked earlier about people being willing to continue to comply with the restrictions so we will look to see whether there are any opportunities even if they are slight and preliminary to lift those restrictions but we'll only be able to do that. This is the fundamental test where we're confident that it is in the public health interest of those populations to do so. Mark, thank you over to Rob Taylor at rexham.com afternoon First Minister. The leader of Conway Council has made formal requests for removal of travel restrictions. Is the response to that and as you mentioned travel it's now a week after you said you have powers to take action possibly naming specific areas of England in our regulations. What options are being considered to solve that issue where people in English hot spots can still come to Welsh lockdown areas and how imminent is a decision on that? Rob thank you very much. I've signed off a reply to the letter I received from the leader of Conway council. I'm afraid this is not the moment at which we can lift travel restrictions. I entirely understand his concerns for that local economy but figures in Conway are rising not falling and figures on either side of Conway in Denbyshire and Gwynedd are rising and not falling as well. It's always been the case that the measures we take will have some time before they can make an impact and it's only a week since the restrictions were introduced in the four local authority areas in north Wales. So it is I'm afraid premature and against the evidence for us to consider lifting restrictions while the position is getting worse and not getting better. I'm yet to receive a reply to my letter to the Prime Minister which is very disappointing given the seriousness of the issue. You will have read Rob I'm sure as I have speculation that the UK Government is to introduce some travel restrictions in high incidence areas in England and this has never been a matter of preventing people coming across the border. It's a matter of people from high incidence areas not going to low incidence areas wherever those may be whether they're in England or Scotland or Wales. So if the Prime Minister is preparing to take action on Monday I'm prepared to wait until Monday to see what that action might be and to see how far it goes in protecting low incidence areas in Wales. In the meantime we have been preparing a set of potential actions that we could take working with our lawyers and if on Monday it turns out that what we are hearing doesn't happen we're not confident that the UK Government will do the right thing and just prevent people from areas in England where the incidence rate is far in excess of some parts of Wales and far in excess of some other parts of England the UK government isn't prepared to do that sensible thing and prevent people from travelling and spreading the virus with them then we will have to rely on our own powers which we do have and will use but because we are hearing that the UK Government may do the right thing I'm prepared to wait until Monday to hear what that might be. Thank you and more local authorities are publishing the heat map style information that I think you referred to as being really useful earlier. Is it possible to clarify if more councils have that data and if the decision to publish it is taken locally or not and earlier this year Public Health Wales data was expanded to local authority level to further inform people. Will hospitalisation data be published as well? Rob, I'm slightly not guessing but I don't have it in front of me. I think the position is that all local authorities do have that information and that it's then a matter of how useful they find it to produce those heat maps and what capacity they have in terms of their own local technology to do so but I don't believe that it is a deficit in information that gets in their way of doing that. The difficulty of hospital level information has generally been that when numbers are low then there's always a risk that the data isn't anonymised that people can be traced from the data and I know you and I have discussed this earlier in the summer and as numbers were falling so that problem was getting greater. As numbers rise again it may well be that we will be able to publish hospital level data without running the risk that individual patients could be identified as a result so I'm very happy that we will keep that under review and see if we do get to a point where it would be possible to do that. We've got a new colleague joining us today which is very nice and we'll go over next to Janet Hughes of Gloucestershire Life. What it is, Mr Baker. What it is? I can run an area by work and they've crossed the border on the basis so actually we've all gotten up to many restrictions over this week. I know we've made five problems areas in the final time so I thought that that would represent all of Gloucestershire or whatever. Can you hear me? Janet, I'm really sorry the line is coming and going a lot and in the end I wasn't able to hear enough of the question to be able to answer it. Do you want to try one more time and if it doesn't improve we'll go to the next person and come back to you but if you wanted to have one more go. Thank you. Thank you. I live on a border area where people cross the border in the Wi-Fi and their local pounds are off and the space doesn't change at all. So when we were talking about travel restrictions in my province there we raised a few numbers. I was just wondering what message you would have when you would have done all this. I think I'm just about to understand how you would bring it in and say you've been talking about it. I like the border area where people give a message to the border. Yes of course. Thank you very much and this year the border has always been a really important to us, to many of us in Wales. I have family members myself living in Gloucester and the poorest nature of our border is such we've always got to tend to it carefully and I just want to reinforce the answer that I gave a moment ago to Rob Taylor that when we talk about people travelling into parts of Wales where there is still not much coronavirus in circulation that is not a border issue for us. It's just a general issue. We don't allow people in Wales to travel to those areas. We don't think it is fair, sensible or the right thing for people from other parts of the UK to be able to travel there either. In the meantime of course our friends and colleagues across the border are always in our thoughts when we are making decisions. We have young people from Wales who travel every day for education in England. We have people who come to work from England into Wales. We will do our very best to make sure that any decisions we make we communicate that as carefully as we can to people who live across our border and for them to know. They are our friends, they are our colleagues and we never take decisions in the sense of thinking that they are a problem that we have to solve. Is there an exception that happened when it happened with Stacey Solomon and Joe and Simon Cole of the colour writer this week? Do you think the message has been diluted? And also you say about powers. You can talk to Gwenda Police. What powers would you use and has there been a problem with people coming over the border where they shouldn't have been into Newport from England? There aren't reports of that being a problem as I said in earlier question. Gwenda Police reported yesterday from memory of over 300 vehicles that they had stopped and only a handful of cases where they had needed to impose fixed penalty notices. And as earlier in the summer where there were people who didn't realise that there were different rules that applied in Wales who came across the border, the reports then too were that provided people had that carefully explained to them the reasons why we had different rules in Wales set out. People were very keen to do the right thing to comply with them and that's been our experience this time too. I agree with you, Janif. I heard the first part of the question right. It's very easy for this to be reported as though it were a border issue. But for me it's never been that. It is simply about across the United Kingdom trying to protect those parts of our country, Wales and other nations where there isn't coronavirus needing local restrictions from people who live in parts where there is a lot of coronavirus about and who may inadvertently, by travelling to those other places, take that virus with them. Thank you very much and thank you for joining us today. Lastly this morning then to Steve Bagnell of The Daily Post. Thank you, First Minister. You have touched on this previously. What is the date of staying about the impact of the North Wales lockdown, which obviously has four counties on restricted measures at the moment, and with the restrictions set to be reviewed next week, are they likely to be extended if current trends continue? Well if current trends continue, Stephen, they are definitely likely to be continued because every day for the last seven days we have seen rises across the four counties that are currently subject to measures and as I mentioned earlier, further west in Gwynedd as well, we have three of the four local authorities on the latest figures I've had which have gone through the hundred barrier and until we are able to arrest that rise and turn the tide back again, I'm afraid the measures we have in place will need to continue to be there, but we wouldn't have expected, you know, the public health experts who advise us would never have expected to see a change in that pattern within the first week. Thank you First Minister and then we have Halloween and bonfire night coming up, two big social events. What is the current guidance on say where the trick or treating is going to be allowed or bonfire events go ahead or will that be decided closer to the time depending on how COVID-19 is spreading? Well we will provide further guidance closer to the time but we are already being asked questions as you can imagine about these events and I think the truth is that if these events are to go ahead at all they will have to go ahead in a different way to the way that they would have done in any other year. I'm very reluctant to say to children and young people that Halloween is cancelled in Wales but I do think that there are ways in which it might be possible for a different sort of celebration to take place that doesn't cause risks to them or to others so I know there are people working very hard on this with imaginative ideas about things that could be done that would still allow children to enjoy that occasion but it will have to be done in ways that keep them and other people safe. We'll be providing some further thoughts and guidance on that as we get closer to the time. Thank you all very much indeed. Thank you.