 So we're here with IZORG, IZORG. IZORG, yeah. So who are you? I'm Laurent Jamais and one of the founders of the company in charge of the business development. So what are we looking at here? What is this? That's the first image sensor on plastic. So we are the first company to develop image sensor on plastic. Did you say image sensor? Yeah. So, like a camera? Yes, like a camera, yes. What we are developing is large-area image sensor with different market and application. So, are you able to recognize the joconde or how does it work? Yes, so that's for this demo is the principle of scanning surface where you just scan all over the surface the image. One of the first application is for medical markets where we are developing large-area image sensor for X-ray equipment where we can develop more cost-effective products or more robust products with a plastic substrate, so more robust to shock. So how much more cost-effective compared to existing solutions? Or is it just different solutions? No, it's a very significant cost-solution at least 30% reducing the cost versus the traditional technologies. And what are you showing here for example? Is this a touchscreen? So that's a new also proof of concept where we just integrate the technology behind the LCD. The principle that you just push infrared light over surface of display that's the light is reflected by your hand and pushed through the display and detected by the optical sensor. We create just the 3D effect. We call it the post-Tac-Tac technology just create new effect with 3D interaction typically for graphics and gaming. So this is different from normal touch? Yes, that's different from normal touch because it's compatible with touch. You don't actually touch it? No, you don't touch it. You can touch if you want. You can? Or you get close? Yes, but you can also interact without touching the surface. How far can you be? Typically about 2-3 cm, just to create interaction with graphics typically for gaming. So you just do quick gestures and how about wearable? Wearable, so that's also something we are just starting to develop. That's typical of this kind of band that you can put inside the wrist. So it's flexible like this and that we can use for different applications. It can be used for biometrics, applications or health monitoring. We just can monitor for example the blood in the ant and you can have very accurate information for example on oximetry. So that's typical for biometrics or health monitoring. So where would you put this exactly? It looks a little bit dark. Does it go in front of the screen or on the side of it? So for this one it's inside the plastic for example. Inside the wristband? The wristband that's typical integration possibility. For the display it will be backside of the display so you don't care about transparency. So just behind the LCD stack and that's the major benefit of the technology you don't need to be transparent. Because there is this distance that works? Because the infrared light is going through the LCD so as we are sensing the infrared light we don't need to be in front of the display. But are you losing some sensitivity because it goes through something? Yes, so we need that to have a very sensitive device exactly to detect the minimum light quantity. So what are you looking at over here? What is this? So that's the typical fold we are manufacturing in the biocline as these are unit photodiode. So each point is a pixel, is a photodiode and typically you can use this for example for user interface products but you can interact with it without touching the surface. What is this number? It's just to indicate that you are detecting position of finger all over the surface. So right here in this product you have some of these there? Exactly. How many of these do you have there? It's typical about 12 sensors. So this could be perfect for smartwatch? Yes. Our typical application is for home appliances where you can interact with surface with grease or water. So it's not taking pictures right? What is it doing? Depends on the application. It can take pictures for example for this one can be the concept of mobile scanner so just imagine that in the future you get just a surface able to scan typical barcode so it can be used for barcode reading or typecode reading so it can take a picture of a special code. So how efficient is it at reading this barcode compared to a regular smartphone camera? The concept is to have this for example embedded inside the equipment or inside the wearable equipment so that's compared to camera you don't need to have a special camera or device it will be embedded inside the equipment. So what's the way it was the power consumption? Very low power consumption, very low weight, we're talking you see about 2 grams and the prices can be typical depending on the market and product but very costly because we are printing materials on surface. So your material is on this? No, no this one is just an example of barcode, the product is this one we are just making the position of liquid material on top of the plastic. Alright, so just a little liquid material, so are you printed electronics? Yes, that's exactly what we call the printed electronics because we print liquid materials on plastic you call it organic electronics because we are using organic materials from the organic chemistry or you can talk about larger real electronics. So is this only some prototypes, how about huge quantities, how soon? We plan to have mass production units in 2 years in MIMOJ, Centre of France and with first product for example for quantity of jet so we are right now developing product for volume quantity within 1 or 2 years. And you need some printers, some hardware to make it, you're not making those things right? Yes, we buy equipment, we make some special partnership with equipment suppliers. So right now it's just prototyping R&D stage right? Right now it's within 2 years, within 2 years. Yes, with mass production units in MIMOJ. So how big is it going to be? Are you the only ones doing this? Yes, we are the only company developing optical sensor on plastic and there will be a large capacity manufacturing unit in MIMOJ. So this is a little bit, it's funny because this is like, it looks like a display so it could cover the display or it could cover the area of the display? Yes, it's behind the display, yes. So what's the future? Is it just going to be able to take pictures and stuff? Is it going to get better and better? What's happening? The future is really to support emerging megatrends for the electronics so for medical segment, new sensor for medical equipment, wearable device, security for with biometrics, health monitoring, connected objects so we are supporting all these megatrends of the electronics for medical segment, health control, security and connected objects. Robotics? Robotics as well, exactly yes. Wearable robotics and IoT stuff? IoT, industrial IoT, yes. So basically when you get close to something it knows you there or something? For the market we are just... Or the humans interacting with things? Yes, human interaction, so detection of objects and optical sensor is very good because it's not intrusive. So did you invent this? It's not really invention, it's a vision supported by the founder of the company, it's a product vision and we work a big research lab to develop the technology with a mixed competence of technology, product design and business development.