 Take the game over. It was a challenge all week. On the line of scrimmage, it won the game. That's what the old line did. And the play of the running backs during that sequence, non-straight runs there. So we could have picked it up. I thought about it at times, but when you're watching the intent and the way those guys were going up front, where they were blocking, and the way that our guys were running the football, and that was all three of the runners, why pick it up? And so that was encouraging. That's who we need to be to close out games. And just one game, but we needed that win in the worst way. And I thought overall, it was a good team win. And yeah, so along those lines, how gratifying was it to stop the three game losing streak and move into first place in the NFC South? Yeah, look, this thing's got to play out. I mean, we got six games go, right? And it'll feel like six lifetimes. I mean, it's just the national football league. And the eggs and flows. I mean, you call about a couple plays in the last two games. And we knew coming off in the bye week, everything we talked about, just some of the things logistically we want to do as a staff, we certainly did that. Waze, we wanted to play, getting some guys in space. I thought it helped us. And then rolling for personnel defensively, keeping guys fresh, I think you saw a little bit of that. So we got plenty of stuff to work on, as always. But overall, a good team win. Arthur, what went into the decision to play CP more? That's really the first time, other than in injury situation. Yeah, he's been building on it. As you saw a little bit in Tampa, but where you saw him, I mean, he can play all over the place. And it gives you another guy. We didn't have to go out there. But if we need to win one-on-one outside, he gives you that. And you talk about being fresh. I mean, those are hard guys to tackle when you get momentum and you're getting into the drives, and we believe in our conditioning. So he'll continue, just like, depending on the plan. But all these guys, as we hopefully continue to get better, and they'll all be involved. How do you feel Dez did today? Yeah, look, overall, I mean, a lot of those drives early, he got in space, talked about it, using his legs as a weapon, which I thought he did pretty well. They adjusted on some of his own read stuff, which got us on that first drive in the third quarter. Little bit of, we were going fast in and out, trying to, in the half of the touchdown, not giving the ball back. And we liked the angle of it. He had to move, I believe. Cale and Saunders kind of got in the way, and a little miscommunication over there. And Matthew got up under it. So the other one, he was trying to make a play being a little greedy. But what you like about him is the way he came back. They hit pressure. Easy play would be underneath, but he believed in it. He drifted, big time throw to Bijan. Got him 101 in space, which we wanted. So he doesn't flinch. So yeah, obviously, you don't want the turnovers. Thankfully today, we were 0. And we were able to get Jesse's interception, and then Jesse punched the ball out. So thankful for that. But he's resilient, and we'll keep working. I think he was 4-4 on the 95-yard drive, but he had scuffled a little bit. Did you have any hesitation in putting the ball in his hands in this situation? You got to believe in him. Josh, when you put him out there, and that's what he's done. His history will show you that just throughout all the games he played in college, he's pretty damn good in critical situations in the 4-quarter. He's done that in the NFL. Like I said, we got to keep working. So we got a lot of belief, and more importantly, those guys got belief. You called a time. You weren't happy about that time out. You had to call before the Bijon pass. Well, I talked about logistics. But yes, somebody came out. It gets under 15, so you have a mechanism to get up on the ball, so you don't have to burn it. And then it was too slow. And so I wasn't kind of, and I guess it must be living right, because the next play we got to touch on, thankfully. Well, I wondered if you had thought you'd lost that play, and that's why you were miffed about having to call that time out now. No, no. It was somebody sobbed. It was, yeah, that was the one error that we had. Hate wasting time out. Wasn't going to take a delay in a game there. And so we had to use it. But we'll get that fixed. And on Jesse, I mean, those two plays feel like kind of a knack thing. Yeah, there were some things that Jesse, like a lot of our guys, I mean, they're prideful players. He puts a lot of work in. There's something he thought he got to jump on it. And then it's the effort on with that. He got down the sideline. And then Zach Harrison, you know, Zach making those blocks. I mean, it takes everybody, but great play. And then Jesse's play punching the ball out on the hill. That was kind of a turning point in the game. All right, unless my eyes were deceiving me, I thought I saw Dave Ragon in the box today. Yeah, so if that's the case. And A, the thought process, and how did it help you? Well, this is for me. Steve and I collaborate on everything. And both of us didn't be down. And I think there's some things with Dave's experience that he could help Des as he was seeing unfold up top. And as they communicated. So instead of both of us being down, it was just a logistical thing where I thought, and I thought it worked well today. Dave's got a good presence and good feel. And the communication between the staff and me and the quarterbacks, I thought helped. Because again, you see some things down here, but we just thought it would be a change up. And I'm obviously happy with the results today. Couldn't help but notice after the miss field goal, obviously there was a lot of celebration on the sideline almost to the point of a sense of relief, really. Can you just talk about what the last couple of weeks have been like for not just you, but the players and the atmosphere around the team? Yeah, I think, Jeff, I mean, you've covered sports a long time. And guys, I keep saying it's not just coach talk. This is a different group. And I mean that in a great way. I mean, they just, these guys work so damn hard. And I know everybody works hard as pro sports, but have you seen our Wednesday practice? It felt like training camp. It was a, it was a damn battle. And these guys wanted to win. So, and I would argue that paid off. I mean, it felt like a heavyweight fight. It was physical, the hell out there. I think it was, it was kind of cathartic for a lot of those guys, because they know they put a lot of work in. Guys were frustrated. It felt like there was a player to here. That's what the games have come down to. We lost those two at the end. And we had an opportunity, thankfully, to go take it out on somebody else. And so it was probably more cathartic, I would say, but it's a whole team. It's a close team. Arthur, you mentioned defensive, that you guys were kind of rotating guys a little bit more. It was Helms and Richie part of that, too? Or is that something maybe where DeMarco's kind of pushing it more time? Well, both. I think, you know, too, as you're, can people want to get you in so much sub-defense? They weren't playing a lot of heavy personnel when some of their tight end packages felt little. And so that's the, you know, that's a lot of the NFL right now. And so, you know, people do that. And they try to get the smaller guys into the run fits. So you're just trying to change it up, putting guys in spots where you think you can maximize them. And that's a credit to DeMarco as well. Even you saw Tragell out there a little bit, too. And in terms of, like you mentioned with Dave, being up in the box, is there an example from today that really stands out of where you thought that worked? Yeah, because, you know, you do so much self-scouting. So everybody's got tendencies. And so you're trying to break, you're gonna always try to break yours. They're trying to break theirs. But how, it's not just what they're playing, how they're playing, you know, what the match-up looks like up top. You know, I've got my view, I've got the surface. There's a lot of, like I said, it's sometimes like a NASCAR pit crew. And I just think there were some things I wanted to see and it was more about some of the match-ups, really. And just how they're playing, whether they're safe, if these are, if they're leaning, if they're a certain guy or not, you know, pre-snap, if they're trying to roll in the quarterback that you may not be able to see from ground level. Coach, you talked about Jesse Bates's two turnovers, but can you just talk about the red zone play overall of your defense? Yes, I mean, we got down there twice, obviously, this point at the turn of the ball over, but the other one, we ran in. And then defensively, you know, we gave up some yards, but it comes down to situational football and two enormous plays down there and holding on the field goals. So we'll get some other stuff cleaned up. You know, they had some new new wrinkles. They hit, they hit a lot of shots, kind of between the 20s, but when it came to those critical downs, that was the difference. Thank you. Congrats on the win. Can you walk us through? What was your mindset was in the week kind of leading up to this game? Yeah, I mean, this week was huge as a team for a whole. Let's go out there and get a win. However it came, good, bad, ugly, go out there and get a win. That's what we did, came out here, played as a team, both offense, defense and special teams. You know, obviously a lot of things, we can go back and clean up a lot of things we can be better at, but we're pretty happy because we came out here with a win. Hey, Dez, obviously the two picks, but then Arthur was talking about how, what he likes about you is you were able to respond and you had that big pass to Bajon. Just how important was it to respond the way you did? Yeah, I mean, it's always the next play mentality. No matter what happens, good, bad, ugly, just move on to the next play. And, you know, not only with myself, but everyone on the field. Everyone's got to move on, everyone's got to keep going and play each play as a new play. And obviously, you know, we got the matchup, we won, abused on on the backer, was able to give a ball, you know, the O-line did a heck of a job all day, have given me enough time to stand in the pocket, deliver a ball. They did a heck of a job in the run game, moving the line of scrimmage. Not only the offensive line, but defensive line as well. You know, that's through our team, is where we're going to live and die at, is our upfront five. Yeah, I just wanted to add on to that, how happy were you to see the offense play the way they did at the end of the game to kind of just salt that thing away on the ground? Yeah, it was huge. You know, all week they were challenged to go back in and be that line that we know they can be. They stepped up to the challenge and did a great job and, you know, right there before we took that field with like seven minutes left, you know, Drew Dalman, our center, he told me, he said, hey, let's end this game with the ball in our hands. And I said, yes, sir, let's go. And, you know, obviously we didn't, we came back and the defense, great job of shutting them down when we were able to finish with the ball in our hands. Obviously, you know, Ku coming down, making the kick. But yeah, it was a huge drive. Yes, you're right. How did Dave, moving up to the box, help you just another set of eyes from upstairs and maybe something that in previous games he might not have noticed, because he was on field level, how that would help you tonight? Yeah, I mean, like you said, it was just another set of eyes. Being at that level, usually it's just, it's art and rags up here. And then when you got, you know, our assistant coach Kramer up in the box. But yeah, it's just another set of eyes that's able to see from a different vantage point. And then, you know, communicating with him on the sideline, communicating with Kramer on the sideline. And then like we said to Taylor and Logan do a great job of being another two sets of eyes just to be able to help me out there and whatever I need. Yeah, it looked like you involved yourself as a runner at some pretty key times in this game. Was that something you guys really wanted to emphasize in your style of play, kind of moving forward this season? Yeah, I mean, it had nothing to do with, you know, the offensive scheme or anything like that. You know, we saw throughout, you know, the entirety of their season that, you know, they struggled with quarterback play extension with quarterback scrambling up and out of the pocket. So that we knew it if one, two, and possibly three wasn't there, that three was probably going to be my legs and just take off and go. So, you know, I got off a couple of the reads and then just, you know, found an open spot in the pocket and got out. Does when Jesse gets that interception and then is able to keep going and take it for a touchdown, just what's going through your head as you're watching that play unfold? Yeah, that's huge. I mean, obviously that's a huge momentum swing in any game when you get a pick six, especially one that long. Obviously, you know, kind of deflaced the other team, but, you know, for us as a offense, you know, we kind of had to stay ready because at that point, you know, and then they go back out on the field, it felt like we hadn't been on the field for quite some time. So, you know, it was a great job with offense coming back out and responding. But obviously, like you said, a great job with the defense stepping up, creating a turnover and creating points off that turnover. Kayden called Jesse a game changer and just said, you know, the way the team can feed off a momentum, like an energy play like that is so big. Just what are your thoughts on how he can change the game for y'all? Yeah, like you said, energy and then playmaking. The way he's able to play the field, play that safety position, be able to be all over the field and confuse quarterbacks. He does a great job of it. That's obviously, you know why he's our number one safety back there. And like you said, just energy. I mean, he's not only a great energy provider, but he's a great leader of this team, a great person to have on our team. And he's just going to continue to do great things for us. Desivir, can you just talk us through the touchdown pass to Bijan? You kind of had a guy right in your face there. Blitzer coming off the line. Yeah, it was the same play we ran earlier that I kind of scrambled on down there in the red zone and like almost ran into Kyle. It was the same exact play. That one of his own covers, this one we got matched up in man. I felt pressure, took my drop, saw the match up with him and DeMario. And just put it up for a ball to go get him. I know it's just one game, but coach was talking, stressing the importance of this moment today. Relief, is that a way to describe how you feel? This team feels right now? I wouldn't say relief, more so just excited. Just excited to go out there and get the win. Obviously having a tough three or four weeks, just being able to go out here and get a win at home, it's huge. Arthur mentioned the Wednesday practice and how much he liked the intent. What do you remember about Wednesday? I mean, yeah, Wednesday was the day that we went out there, I mean, it's week 12. A lot of guys on Wednesday, when you put the pads on can go out there and maybe have a softer practice or a jog through practice or not full speed, but what we do in our style to play is full speed and pads almost every time we can do it. And so our intent out there on Wednesday was just fast, physical, great energy, great practice. The weather wasn't perfect, but it was what we needed. And like we said, it was just a great one to start off the week with. Was there anything you tried to do specifically that day to sort of foster that culture? No, I mean, like I said, I think my entire time just coming out this week was playing free, playing fast and having fun. I think I did that out there in practice and obviously did that today. The 95 yard drive, I think you were four or four. What do you remember specifically about the keys to that drive? To being successful there? Yeah, like we said, I think the number one thing for the key of all the drives was the guys up front. Those five men up front did a heck of a job. But like we said, giving me enough time, blocking for Bijon, blocking for CP, blocking for Tyler, and did everything that they could do to move the line of scrimmage. Yeah, there's a coach told us that David Rogones up in the box today, how did that help the operation? He was talking about logistics and so forth. Yeah, no, like we said, it was just another set of eyes up there. Being able to communicate, having another set of eyes, not only up in the box, but like we said, we got multiple on the field with Taylor and Logan and Coach Kramer, but it was just another set of eyes to give a different perspective and hopefully be able to communicate and see things better. Then on the interception at two or one, we couldn't tell it would look like Jonu and Bijon were in the same area of vicinity. What happened on that play? Yeah, I was just going to Bijon. You know, I probably threw about six inches too far inside. He kind of, you know, there was hands up down there in the red zone. Might have lost it, whatever it was. Gotta be a better ball, gotta put it on him. And what was it like in the huddle in that last key drive, not the kneel down, but the one where the y'all read it nine times in a row, where the linemen all fired up about that? The linemen were all just like we said earlier, you know, we had a challenge to them early in the week to go out and play their brand of ball, which is tough, nasty and physical, and move that defensive line and which we did. We wore them down in that fourth quarter, was able to possess that ball for the last five and a half, six minutes, whatever it may have been. They did a heck of a job of being able to get up there and keep the ball moving forward. Props to Bijon, Tyler and CP of all being able to go out there, you know, take control of the ball, get those first downs and keep it moving. Desmond, you guys, the next time you take the field, we'll have the division league in December. What does that mean to this team that have the division league this late in the year? Yeah, I mean, that just means we gotta show up every week to go to play. We obviously knew that this game was huge for that, which was, you know, one of the driving reasons of going out here and get a win. Now we gotta keep it, you know, we haven't won back to back games since the first two weeks. So we gotta go on the road against the Jets, you know, who is a great team, great, great upfront on both sides of the ball. And we gotta be able to go out there and get a win. Desmond, I got two things for you. Can you shed some light on what it felt like for you to get pulled and now to come back in the starting lineup? What did you learn from that experience? How did that help you in this moment? Yeah, you know, I think honestly, you know, it taught me how to be a true backup. It taught me, you know, that you, you know, obviously preparing as a starter every single day. But like I told someone earlier in the week, you know, I don't think I've actually been a backup in my career. You know, I've never came off the bench in the fourth quarter of a game to go in and have to play and go win a game. And so for me, you know, that taught me, you know, not only respect that you gotta have for backups, but you know, just the ability that, you know, it doesn't matter who it is, whether it's a quarterback position, safety position, center position, it's a next man up mentality. When your number is called, you gotta be ready to go and you gotta go out there and execute the same game plan that everyone else has been working all week that you might not have got the same amount of reps at. Did it make you appreciate it even more or do anything in your approach when you are the starter? I mean, yeah, I mean, it makes you appreciate everything. Obviously just being grateful to have the opportunity to come out here and play the game we love. You know, obviously everyone who's on that field, everyone who's dressed wants to be out there playing. Obviously we know at our position as a quarterback position, it's only gonna be one person. And so yeah, I mean, it obviously feels great to get back out there. And like we said, to go get a win as a team. One last thing, your decisions to run the day spot on in multiple situations. What went into some of those decisions and have you processed it a little bit better on when to run versus not? Yeah, like we said, I think I did a good job of just going through my progressions. And then like we saw on film from numerous teams before, you know, they kind of struggled with quarterbacks, play extending quarterbacks, getting out the pocket. So, you know, once I saw the first couple of reads weren't there, I found a window and made it get out because they run a lot of match coverage, whether it's one high or two high, underneath they're all match, eyes are off the quarterback. So at that point it's taking a run. Thanks. Desmond, you might have answered this, Ray, but the touchdown pass to Bijon, how much did you actually see Bijon versus see the defense, the rusher come in and just kind of know maybe where you were thrown? Yeah, I didn't really feel the rusher. I knew that he was coming and whoever was coming was coming hot. And I just saw, you know, the back of DeMario's Jersey and Bijon running with them. So, you know, like I told Bijon that at that point, that was his backyard ball, threw it off the back of my foot, gave him a ball, he could go get, trusted him. Like we said, we've reped it before. You know, that was the play we ran earlier in the game that I actually scrambled on, kind of ran into Kyle down there in the red zone and we went back to it, got a different look and we made it, we executed it. Early in the game, you guys went up for a fourth and two when Gary moving, what was supposed to happen on that play? Yeah, I mean, we were supposed to get a first down. Right. I mean, beyond the, I mean, was that a bad decision on you to keep it? Was that a pull? No, we ended up kind of filtering it through wrong up front. We had two ended up coming off outside. So if you handed it off, Tyler's getting smacked, I pulled it, I got a guy sitting on me waiting outside. So, you know, if we go back, I could probably re-idea better, you know, work things out and we'll get it blocked up. From talking to a couple of your teammates, it sounds like maybe the last two weeks before the buy, you guys maybe felt a little sluggish overall. Did you sense that too? Because you've talked a lot about energy in the last like five, six days. Was that kind of what you were referring to in some ways or? Yeah, I want to say the sluggish, but just, you know, sometimes, like we said, it's week nine, 10, 11, 12. Things can start to get in the routine and become repetitive and go day after day, week after week. And sometimes, you know, guys can get lost in that. Obviously, you know, especially rookies, obviously B&B in a rookie last year, and you know, it's a long season. And obviously those rookies aren't used to it, but just everyone in general, it's a long season. So just being everyone, having the energy and passion to come up here every single day, go to work and get better. You know, that's something that we got to keep up and keep that energy going. Thank y'all. Safe trial.