 Okay, we're back. We're live four o'clock rock. We're off to see the wizard and the way and the wizard is Hawaii The state of clean energy favorite show our Wednesday energy show where it all happens We learned so much, you know We see inside the crystal ball of what's gonna happen and Carolyn Carl is joining us and John Cole is our special guest and Soon enough you will see Sharon Moriwaki Back from her travels and we're having a reunion here today with Sharon and me Okay, so the first thing you do is we're gonna talk about energy efficiency day, Carolyn Yes, the inaugural energy First one so we're here joining millions of Americans in celebrating energy efficiency day today October 5th, so something extra special here is that we wanted to thank the governor for Proclaiming today energy efficiency day for Hawaii. That's great. So we got some video of that Oh, yeah, let's see what it looks like and you can tell us what happened Yeah, this was a fantastic day where we were joined by the commissioners and Governor read the proclamation. This is our entire team here out in blue to support energy efficiency You know it is the smartest cleanest way to get us and cheapest to get us to our clean energy goals here in Hawaii huge amount of energy is Efficiency absolutely and our program Hawaii energy is here to help residents and businesses get there faster You know last year alone We saved almost a hundred and fifty million kwh to the system level It's a lot and it's happening every day and there's little things that we can do So is this a celebration as the energy day efficiency day happening all over the country? It is yeah We've joined a number millions actually a number of different organizations about Efficiency groups utility programs large corporations and just getting the word out to people to help them make Smarter decisions about their energy use to stop being wasteful to know that there's little things you can do whether it be changing Your light bulbs changing, you know the way that you wash your clothes Tips all over if you visit our Hawaii energy calm right now You can follow us on Twitter Instagram and see all the great stuff that we're talking about We actually hit the streets today to downtown at lunch. What did you do you walk you walk the streets? We spread the good word We gave out all sorts of information again Just raising awareness and you and believe how excited people get just at the simple tips that they can take home right away And implement fast quick Solutions to reducing your electricity for video blue shirts, too. That may have been it We had a big horn and clappers But you know what I get out of this I get out of the fact that the whole energy efficiency You know phenomenon And public interest is is going national and then it's taking it's taking room Yeah, it's connecting up and it becomes a national phenomenon now. It's not just the state of Hawaii It's not just your organization It's everyone involved in energy is picking up on totally and not only is it a national level But I really feel like here in Hawaii We're leading the way too with everything that we have in a town will probably talk a lot about renewable integration projects Margaret all sorts of stuff that's happening in our universities, but Programs stakeholders all all over the country are recognizing, you know, what we're doing here on on all sides So it's a good thing it has to keep on going exactly You know, we have to have the same conversation, you know next year, but yeah sooner than next year So next week next week, all right, I'll do that So but now knowing that knowing we are now in kind of a new paradigm with energy efficiency day once a year anyway How should people conduct themselves today to help you celebrate to help us all celebrate energy efficiency day? Carolyn well social media is a great way to get the word out again visit Hawaii energy calm at my Hawaii energy Twitter Instagram The hashtag for energy efficiency day is hashtag EE day 2016 So you can see all the cool stuff pictures of lights and groups and big facilities all sorts of cool stuff I was just checking it out earlier But you know as always on every day you can reach out to us So Hawaii energy calm you can give us a call 5 3 7 5 5 7 7 And just we're here to help as a resource for both, you know the residential and the business customer So you can realize the savings quicker guys around a roll. We're trying yeah every day John You have questions or comment. What do you want to say about this? How does it react? Was your heart beat faster like mine? Absolutely, yeah, absolutely. I mean as the inaugural one I think that there's a lot of groups that got on board a bit later But preparation will continue throughout this year to make it even bigger and better more street corners next year More awareness exactly May I you can quote me on this every day is energy efficiency in my world for sure? Thank you so much. That's Carolyn Carl deputy director of the Hawaii conservation and energy a great organization and So much involved in this very important initiative. Thank you. Thank you very much We're gonna take a short break. We'll come back and you are again going to see Sharon Roy Wacky and enjoy her as we do I'm Stan energy man, and I want you to be here every Friday noon Think tech Hawaii calm. What's the show be there? 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So keep staying tuned 11 a.m. Every Wednesday on the Savvy Chick show We'll see you next time Looking to energize your Friday afternoon tune in to stand the energy man at 12 noon Aloha Friday here on think tech Hawaii Pumped hydro, that's the word we just had a great show on Hawaii the state of clean energy with George St. John and Ray Starling and we're talking about how how okay with back we're live. We're here. Look at us This is Hawaii the state of clean energy every Wednesday at 4 p.m. We have such fun We learn so much we meet such interesting people like John Cole Sharon you and me And this month this month is really exciting because we're going to hear what is happening at the University Let's preface that you know, there's a lot of stuff happening and you can quote me on this There's a lot of stuff happening at the University. It's so big. It's such a juggernaut of stuff I mean everywhere you look there's something happening and the problem with that is we've got to tie it together So John is there in the middle of it at H and E I wish everybody knows stands for Hawaii natural energy Institute John sees it all happening So John what is happening and how are you tying it together? Like you said Jay, there's an awful lot happening and I'm sure I'm not even aware of everything and I Do not tie it all together. I do see a lot of things that could be and work better eventually My plan for today was just to kind of go through the different programs and colleges and schools that I know about and just highlight a few of the things that are going on and Concentrate a little bit on the College of Engineering and H and E I itself Also because I know more about those but And there's a few other areas as I go through my list that are going to be on shows later this month So good. I'll explain. So this is the month for what's going on at UH right good So like I said, there's a lot going on there The College of Engineering has various programs that I'll discuss a little later today H and E I I mean our mission is renewable energy and efficiency and in helping to make partnerships and You know develop technologies and demonstrations of technologies and to help inform policy in the state And I'll talk a little bit about that later. There's also things going on at the law school for a long time. They've had a very robust environmental law program which is Nationally recognized and more recently they've within that environmental law program They've started an energy law program as well, and I know you probably know And she helped start that and she's away right now on a Fulbright award in Mexico I think helping them with some of their energy and energy policy issues Also at the business school, I mean There's a lot of things going on, but they have a PACE program, which is Pacific Asian Center for Entrepreneurship Where they kind of try to meld different disciplines and put it in a business context and H and E I itself had Funded a couple of fellowships there So what kind of business I mean, how does the business school? So it's the idea is to kind of merge the technology analysis and the business Issues together where they could kind of cross-train between the business legal and techno technological aspects of three energy systems Yeah, so they learn how to create a business in energy sounds like a startup entrepreneur Yeah, I mean that's kind of the idea of the PACE program But I mean we sponsored a few to concentrate that on energy But the program itself is widespread across almost any business idea different and separate from the other Accelerators around town right this is just at PACE right and later. I'm going to mention one an accelerator at UH I might as well do that now. It's called accelerate UH and would you spell that because that's a straight spelling X LR The numeral 8 UH so it's called accelerate UH and they're there to help Any entrepreneur that's kind of linked to UH it can be students it can be faculty it can be alumni Pretty much anybody who has a link to UH and an idea with a business or maybe a patent type thing That they want to go out and pursue They're there to help them through the process to help them Train in the various aspects that they're going to have to go through to you know, either develop a business or help them get a patent and monetize that and They've been active in the energy area, too. I mean we have a couple of H&EI people that have gone through their program One for patents and others for business We actually just had a briefing by them a week or so ago To you know encourage more of us because there are quite a few H&EI faculty who would have patents and stuff with their energy and they would help them You know kind of bring that out in an entrepreneurial way to get it out there more in the business world and the actual Use and monetization Do they just help you if I had a project and I wanted to start a business or I want to sell this Product or do you have to go through their training program in order to get the help? Well, they have an application process and they actually do some initial funding They look at your application that they have like venture capitalists from you know The mainland who are on the team and actually, you know talk to Prospects and the people who are in the program So they help not only guide them with the education and how to get through the process But also with funding I mean they start with one round of funding and if it keeps going They can do another and then you know guide you toward even more funding You have to be affiliated with the university or can I just off the street say hey? I need some help I have this idea I want to say. I'm not positive I think it's has to be affiliated with the university in some way So you have to be part of the program. You have to apply for the program Yeah, they do have like a short application form where you can get your idea in front of them And they'll consider it and maybe ask you to elaborate That's great program Okay, and by the way if you've become aware of any of those groups That have an idea worth discussing here and that's right bring them here Love to have a show with them Sir we do that kind of show by Skype all around the country because they pitched they pitched to us Now when they do you know most of time we say okay pitch to us on the air But if they want to pitch to us here from the university, we'll do that Yeah, well, you said a couple are from H&E I right what kind of projects it is I know Mitch Ewan who does a lot of hydrogen work at UH head it has a patent He's gone through their program. I'm not sure if the patent is pending or it's being worked out I don't know if it's been granted yet, and I know there's other you know Different things and bioplastics and things like that have been going on Yeah What's it a Yamamoto Susan Scott Yamamoto of who runs pace She's been on the show many times She's she's really good to see a great organizer from that activity. Yeah, that sounds good. That's a great connection. Yeah, you're in it Okay, and the next college I was going to bring up is the School of Social Sciences, which Sharon is works for Includes the Public Policy Center which Sharon works for who they do energy and policy research and facilitate the whole energy Policy form policy form comes out of the College of Social Sciences So, I mean they do a lot of work to try to help coordinate Most of the energy stakeholders in the state, you know get issues just in the group for discussion where Frank discussion can be had and you know people can think about how to approach our problems We have several regular meetings a year where people you know kind of give updates as to what they've been doing and We actually talk about the issues that are you know either pending or need resolution For us to move forward in clean energy and I think you know They do a great service and facilitating that discussion and and trying to get some solutions and results with some safety In other words, if I reveal an idea to you, you're not gonna copy me This is all a trust basis Facilitate good discussion civil discussion on the issues And also within the school of social sciences is the University of Hawaii economic research Organization and they've been doing work with energy they do some modeling that Kind of looks at energy and its impacts on the state economy whether it's the pricing of energy and or You know how many people are getting solar PV They've looked at a lot of different issues that you know have wider statewide economic impacts And actually next week's show we're gonna concentrate on that We'll have a guest from you hero here and talk about that McKenna coughed so we'll talk about that a lot more in detail next week. I feel it coming on though John party party Energy party. Oh, I say UH energy All the people at UH who were involved all the people you've been listing all the organizations Departments and groups and what have you they should all have a party and say hi That would be invaluable for them to connect up because out of that will flow new ideas Connections I would agree. That's true. I think that might be a way to connect everybody to get an organizer There is a lot going on and even within h&i I don't know everybody that works there We're kind of in different buildings and you know our own offices or labs So I think good to get our communication and connection making is definitely a good idea Good idea Jay. Yeah, okay. I'm ready I did want to mention one other please part of UH it's involved in a lot of energy research And that's the applied research laboratory at the University. They were established just like eight years ago They're sponsored by the Department of Defense and the Navy and they look at researching and developing and Testing technology, you know that will help further the Navy's goals and a big piece of that is on the energy side And actually two weeks from now. We're gonna have Karl Kampanya. Oh good. He's gonna be he's going to be here Talking about yeah, a lot of what they do, you know Green fuels and biofuels initiatives and waste energy and a lot of other things that they're looking at, you know There could be a database on this about who's doing what? When the who the individuals are and contacts and it could be on the website. It could be on H and It's a good start and John has done a great job and just getting all the people who are doing things because there's a lot And like I said, I don't know everything that's going on So I'm sure there's other areas that I haven't touched on where people are looking at clean energy issues being renewable energy Integration or efficiency type of things and if I can mention for the last show of this month Somebody from hnei Jim mastery will be on talking about energy efficiency Things hnei is doing and on campus We've got some test buildings that were just completed their net zero buildings and there's a lot going on there And he's also gonna bring in how you know the UH campuses has a requirement to be net zero and I think it's 2045 as In a state law a year or two ago. So there's a lot of work being done on that So Jim won't be here to all the campuses or just Manola all the campuses are working toward that Yeah, I think they're working toward but when you think about it you you realize that Every that I can think of every school every agency every department They're all doing something on energy because it's It's what's happening For example We have as a host Martin de Speng he teaches at at the school of architecture Very interested in sustainability You know in dealing with climate change and sea level rise and all those Environmental issues but also energy and energy efficiency. You know design a house these days you have to do that You're an architect so there's connections that that go beyond the people who are actively involved You know in energy people who are doing, you know other things in energy from the university Yeah, and and today I think Economics has always been a factor in why but I think more and more and more it's becoming so I mean Even I'm sure people are happy when they do these things that it helps the environment and slows climate change And but more and more it's becoming just an economic decision Yeah, especially on the energy efficiency side when there's so many things people can do and Devices they can put in that can help them use less energy and you know not have to spend the money on it And then other things like PV and things like that were the cost coming down It just makes economic sense to people and I think that's what grabs people At least initially more than more than a lot of the other things at least regular people aren't involved in energy every day Like we are but we need you hero We need we need McKenna Kaufman and her friends because we have to make that evaluation on everything We do sometimes you're gonna find out that efficiency is great and it saves you money Sometimes you're gonna find out that it's not great and doesn't save you money And you have to make the evaluation you have to in order to determine a strategy You have to ask those questions and an economist is a good person to ask I want to know since John John is like the heart of H&E I She said that in public What is what does? H&E I is charged we call you you folks the research arm for energy for the state because you you are the agency You know established by law to be the energy agency or doing research and renewables and Assessing them. So what what is the big kind of things that that H&E I is doing? Like you said, we were established in the statute and Initially just to you know work with government and organizations to reduce the state's dependence on fossil fuels And we've been doing that for a long time a lot of it is through federal grants and things like that and Eventually we got some state funding which comes through to state barrel tax, but that wasn't until you know 2009 or so and So I mean we've got a lot of areas of interest where we do research on technologies and different ways to integrate things into the grid and A lot of what we're trying to do is use that to help better inform state policy Whether it's at the legislative level the PUC level or or other places We feel like we have the capability to do some independent technical analysis to help better inform the policy making or decisions that are being made And it's independent in the sense that a lot of times all the PUC or Legislature may have to look at is something either from the utility who May or may not have an interest in doing or moving forward on the policy path that the legislature for instance chooses or You know some of the industries and vendors of the technologies who definitely have their own business interests So we hope to be you know an independent Technological resource to help you know that that policy making on whatever level it is. It's really objective data and data driven Analyses and recommendations. Let me give that Lily You are authoritative you are a scientific organization You are dedicated to finding policy based on data and science There's nobody else who does it quite like you and you're clear clean You know, you're not you know hung in any particular agenda So you are very authoritative and we started saying we count on you To approach the legislature and straighten them out on things they might be confused about and as we go as we go forward That becomes all all the more the case John. No pressure But it is important it is important because you know, we have a lot of opinions swirling around Some of which are good and some of which are not But then you need to have it stuff so much back driven and research driven and do the testing which is what you folks do Yeah, the analysis just now is definitely in the short strokes on trying to figure out the best way It's easy to make a mistake. It's hard to recover from the mistake We need the best thinking we can get you are in the center of that job. Okay serious. See it was a heart I Don't that the need is there. I mean I wish we could answer everything But I mean we do analyses to try to you know Help inform the best decisions we can whether it's you know what we can do to help get more renewables on the grid What the cost of that is what the benefit is if it's worth spending money on this or that? In a lot of ways this state is in the forefront in this area So I mean as best as we can we like to inform that was you know technical analyses that are independent of You know like you said having any any chin in the game and wanting one up come over another We just want to help do it the best way we can so where can I find your stuff? Where can I look at your reports? What can I learn about your projects? It's all on our website. I believe it's That's hnei.hawaii.edu You can go and learn a lot there Okay, Sharon time for you to close make a summary and close I think that research is really important the analyses are really important The university plays a pivotal role in all of that and we count on them so I'm glad that John hnei is doing that in the forefront and Leading the way and hopefully coordinating and we'll hear more about that in the weeks to come Yeah, great John. Thank you so much. Thank you not only for doing these shows and setting them up But for doing what you do with hnei. I appreciate that. Thank you guys. Thank you