 We'll call the fifth regular meeting of the common council the order Madam clerk, would you please read the quote of the day? Thank you. The only way to do great work is to love what you do Very good, please call the roll There are twelve present all the person down in you van Akron Berg and van de Wiel are excused Next would be the approval of the minutes other than Ballinger Thank You mr. President. I move to stand down Pledge of Allegiance my bad. Okay. I'm a rookie the flowers are cloudy my judgment Please join me in the pledge Allegiance is a flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands One nation under God Indivisible with liberty and justice for all the pollen counts too high up here All right, all the person Ballinger. Thank you move to approve the minutes second It's a motion a second any discussions Hearing those all those in favor say aye. Hi post Next resignations city attorney Adams. We do have one resignation from all the person Eldenburg Effective June two Thank you very much Mayor's appointments. I believe there are none. There is a there is a mayor's appointment as well Do a motion for the resignation? Thank you, mr. President move to accept and file motion to accept and file any discussion Hearing none all those in favor say aye. Aye post Mayor's appointments as for mayor's appointment The mayor submits Cindy dross to be considered for an appointment to the joint review board as the LTC Representative with the term expiring April 30 of 2016 that will lie over Next we have a presentation from Amy Wilson of the Sheboygan tourism As you know, we generally get the numbers from the year before and in May during National Tourism Week the first week of May So we'll just review how 2014 went across the state and for our local area in 2014 across Wisconsin visits to ship or visits grew by 2% over 2013 hotel room demand is up by 3.5 percent the occupancy rates increased over 56 percent Average daily rate is also up over 3 percent and overall hotel revenues are up 7.4 percent across the state Please your travel comprises 88 percent of visitor spending. That's generally very consistent overnight visitors comprise about 67 percent of that Day trips and I'm sorry overnight visitors spend about 7.7 billion across the state day visitors spend about 3.8 8 billion There were 102 point million visitors to the state spending 11.4 billion in 2014 So visitors spent about 2.3 billion on lodging. That's an increase of over 7 percent More than 2.9 was spent on food and beverage That's an increase of 6.4 percent and the first time that food and beverage has surpassed lodging spending Retail captured almost 2.3 billion in visitor spending. That's an increase of 2.4 percent and Visitors spending on recreation increased 7.8 percent to more than 1.5 billion and Just to let you know recreation increases at a greater rate right now for the last four years than all the other categories and That's pretty much where we focus all our marketing efforts on in waterfront recreational assets So visitor spending Since 2010 has increased 38.6 million In in our county. This is visitor spending for our county. So in 2014 visitors spent 207.8 million So in a five years, that's almost a well little over 38 million dollar increase in visitor spending For room tax revenues just for the city of Sheboygan and this chart that you're looking at this actually What those numbers are are the 70% of room taxes collected that comprise? Just the tourism budget. It's not the 30% that goes to the general The general fund and it doesn't include blue Harbor So room tax revenues over the last five years have increased 49 percent 2014 we had a record-breaking year room tax collections and today is the fifth anniversary June 1st since the tourism Open office in the chamber since it opened So the city of Sheboygan collects about 40% of all room tax when blue Harbor is included about 40% across the county We go to the next chart. You'll see 2014 Every year we highlight in yellow What quarters are the record-breaking quarters in history and in 2014 every one of them were? so However, we just received today the quarter one room tax for 2015 and that broke the quarter one record for 2014 So hopefully we're on another good revenue increasing trend So the projections For the room tax projections that we turn in for the budgets every year usually ours come in in August But in 2015 and as always we project conservatively to avoid any risk and things we can't control natural disaster Hotel studying on fire, etc. Etc. So in 2015 we projected about 370,000 remember we have to project these before we know how we do in the year about 370,000 to come into the tourism budget Following a three-year pattern that showed a mitigated average of 396,000 But we will well be over that So that's the update if there are no questions Great. Thank you All right. Thank you Somebody's buzzing in who all them and born Thank You mr. President Amy with anything that's going on in Madison right now with the state budget I read some things that are possibly pending with how Municipalities can spend their room tax dollars is that possibly going to have an adverse effect on us or are we looking okay? It shouldn't affect us at all because the way our our tours and board in our system has set up already complies with the state statute And we're already following the law that they're trying to improve. Okay. Thanks Thank you very much Public forum madam clerk Okay, this evening first on the list is Jason Peters Jason if you could come on up And I need your home address, please Jason. It's a 1225 Cough minute. Okay, you will have five minutes. All right. Good evening. I would like to give an update to the Common Council the progress of the Army Foundation We have been working very well with the finance committee. They've given us some great advice I would like to personally thank Alderman Carlson At the last extort committee meeting he brought to light some miscommunication We had with another person and following our 501 see papers They will be filed shortly and I really want to thank him for this help It's kind of it's been a very nice experience working together But tonight you will be voting on whether to follow the historic committee recommendation to place the armory as a historical structure Landmarking locally protects the exterior and condition of the building. I want to stress It does not guarantee that the building cannot come down in the future For us, this is the first step in a process of setting up precedent that the armory is an important part of shaboy against past But more importantly its future Our hopefully goal is the next step. It will be state and national landmark which will help us with grant money and tax credits last month Alderman Theo and Alderman Damrell took a tour with me and Colin through the armory and Last week Colin and Jason Smith as a shaboy impressed along with Jim Drugger Drager The head of Wisconsin State Historical Society took a tour Mr. Drager said essentially nothing majority is wrong except the building has been neglected and needs cosmic fixes I really personally feel the condition of the building Through a lot of hearsay has been blown off proportion If you talk to two alderman that were there, it's a lot of cosmetic fixes But again tonight you will be voting on a recommendation from a committee that the mayor appointed I'm learning a lot in his last 18 months coming here and to me Going through all these different committees the finance committee historical committee the parks committee these people put in a lot of time just like yourselves and And to me it would be a no-brainer for you when you have four to two recommendation to landmark it If you don't it's a slap in the face of all the members of the historical committee Thank You Jason and Next on our list is Deborah is it Yochus? Sorry, if I didn't pronounce it right Close okay good and Deborah. I need your home address, please 1633 humble to have an inch for you. Okay, and you will have five minutes My name is Deborah. I have a Company Company called three of life properties recently acquired a property On north 11th Street that we would like to use for transitional housing a faith-based program We also are looking at another property that is coming for sale on north 11th Street Which is a five bedroom home? That we would be putting Male non-offender or non-violent offenders in People need Sorry, I'm very nervous. I Do jail ministry and I've done it for a year and a half and these people come out They have nowhere to go And they need people to walk alongside them and guide them and this is our mission is to just provide faith-based housing We have a curriculum And if you want to know more of that structured detail, I Have someone here that can explain that I don't know if anybody has questions for me. I'm pretty nervous Is there any I mean that the house that we would like to purchase is not currently on the market it is Set to go up any day now and we would like to Purchase that and use that for a transitional living program for males I don't know if there's objections Thanks, Debra. Thank you fine. I did great Anybody else? That's it. All right next on our mayor's announcements on board docs He saw the resignation of Alderperson Berg First I'd like to thank him for his past and current service We wish him the very best in his recovery and would ask that you keep him in your thoughts and prayers as we as he goes forward Unfortunately, that means that we have a vacancy in district one Wards one two and three Anyone interested in putting their name in for this position should submit a letter and resume to the city clerk at 828 Center Avenue or by email at Susan Richards at Sheboygan wi.gov you can also find that email address on our website By Friday June 12th council be voting on the new Alderperson at our next meeting on June 15th And there will be time allotted for any interested parties to Speak at the council to the council before the vote. So if you have any questions, please contact city clerk Richards Thank you. Next we'll move on to the consent agenda Like Alderperson Bellinger Thank You mr. President Like to make a motion to accept and file all all RO's accept and adopt all our C's and pass all resolute Resolutions and ordinances So motion in a second any discussion Hearing none will the clerk please call the roll He'll have an eyes All right motion passes Next move on to reports of officers 3.1 an RO by the historic preservation housing rehab Commission to whom was referred RO number 294 15 by the city clerk submitting a historical designation Application Sheboygan municipal auditorium and armory recommends that the auditorium and the armory be designated as a historical structure and directs the historic preservation Slash housing rehab Commission to start the process per the ordinance for officially designating the property historic all the person deal I make a motion that we accept File the arrow motion in second under discussion. These aren't labeled right all the person Carlson president I Would I'm gonna be opposing this Process and I hope that everybody else joins me for one main reason I don't think we need to put any unnecessary burdens on the future of the armory this committee The committee historic preservation already placed a 90-day hold on it and it actually Killed the development the only development deal that we had For this armory the bid process went out for 10 months We've all known that there have been issues here for at least two years now We put out like I said that 10 month bid process We only got one viable option and then this committee Effectively killed that Project luckily that project is still staying within the city However, it didn't solve the armory problem for the city This this process would place some restrictions on the building I'll be it it would be restrictions that we're putting on ourselves But once again, I don't think we need to do that because he's in development deals We all know that time is of the essence So whether it's five days a week or a month or two months or even 90 days It could kill something and I don't think we need to do that. We haven't gotten any real Other options for this project. So I want to be able to just keep our options open and this will not allow Thank you. Thank you for your comments all the person deal Thank You mr. President As mr. Peters mentioned, I went to the tour of the armory I haven't been in there in many many years. I was expecting just from what I heard from Everybody else that this is a complete disaster inside. It's a mess Doesn't need some work. Yes, but I was surprised that it wasn't as bad as I actually really anticipated Is there some areas inside there that are are bad? Absolutely, I think with some if the right group could find the right funding It can actually get back to what it was I know some some other people them persons haven't Lived here all their lives don't know the history of the of the armory. I have lived here all my life This is my hometown and I have some great memories there I think by Making this a historical landmark or whatever Classification it's called. I think we're showing that we do value the historical areas In our city and I know Alderman Collison said that we we killed the deal Why I think we didn't really kill anything. I think we saved the building is what we did This destination artist does a nation protects the exterior of the building Like he said it doesn't Say that somewhere down the line. We don't get any offers or this group can't put something together or funding or whatever Doesn't mean that somewhere down the line. We couldn't vote where it would get taken down. It doesn't Doesn't do that. It just protects the exterior of the building and may help them get some type of grants down the line And help for some other destinations So I'm obviously in favor of this and I hope everybody else is also thank you Thank you, all the person feel Alderman bitters Sponsored to her I also tour the I'll let my inner engineer side speak out for the moment It's not just cosmetic the problems that building are profound that it outside of the leaking The trash to roof There are things a The moment you try to do anything with that building is it ADA compliant? No Is it ain't close to me to that? No, is there a sprinkler system inside? No Is there a Is there a working HVAC system? Yeah, but it only does heat and It's steam boilers and I actually looked at the two boilers only one of them is Converting to a modern fuel the other one's still coal that Anyone who thinks well some cuz my cosmetic changes and a little bit of money will whip this thing back in the shape Not true. It's not gonna happen that way You're gonna end up Somewhere probably between five and ten million dollars to get this back to a viable Public building and I don't see us putting that on the backs of the people who got to pay it for this our local taxpayers I Someone proved to me wrong, but I don't see it and Actually, the exterior of the building is part of what's causing the problems inside There's leaking and there's water running through the exterior walls Trashing the interior You know I respect the All they're trying to do but it's not as rosy I Think thank you alderman bitters alderman bellinger Thank You mr. President during my last Feeding on the finance committee the Armory foundation came before us at that point in time and it was agreed that they would take a tour and hire a Architect and go through that facility with them and get a report back from an architect It's easy, you know for any one of us alderman or in somebody with an untrained eye to go and look at something and You know whether it's cosmetic or it's major structural or you know significant issues It's not as easy to see with an untrained eye So I would like to ask the question has an architect gone through it and has there been a report developed as to what The issues are of that building. Thank you Not sure who would know the answer to that Miss Lurkey motion to open the floor to miss Lurkey second Second all those in favor say hi Please my name is Jennifer Lurkey. I'm owner of legacy architecture here in Chicago. Again. I'm a historic preservation And we do preservation work across the state I've been in the building twice Once most recently this past Friday And I was also in the building last February February 14 not February 15 On both occasions. I was there with representatives from the Wisconsin Historical Society and they were there on my invitation The first visit in February 14. I was there with a potential client who was considering responding to the RFP and Most recently I was in the building I Do have to say the building is very structurally sound Yes, the roof is leaking. I saw no evidence of the walls leaking There's one major roof leak on the southeast corner of the building That's causing the water to basically filter down through the entire building I've heard rumors that the roof is collapsing which does not appear to be a case There's some plaster that has come down a very small amount of it due to the roof leaks Roof leak is the primary concern with the building as far as I'm concerned I have not been hired by anybody to do a report. I don't have any proposals out to do a report for anybody I certainly have those capabilities and I've done those on numerous buildings But I have not seen any structural problems And the major cause of the deterioration right now is the roof leaks Two of which I am aware of There is some concern with the stairs on the northwest corner of the building the foundation Has settled it's caused some crack with the concrete, but it's not building itself It's just the exterior stairs on the north side of the building As far as the landmark designation is concerned Several years ago we Work called an intensive survey report I don't know if you guys have access to it or have seen it The first edition of the report was issued in 2002 Paid for by the city. I was the primary investigator of it And the armory was identified as being potentially eligible for the state national register Therefore making it eligible for tax credits This building is eligible for quite some time Landmarking is different from eligibility though and tonight. We're here to talk about landmarking. So I Did write a letter of support to have this property In the intensive survey report Landmarking is not going to prevent you from bulldozing it in the future That 90-day stay is still going to be in place whether it's landmarked or not. So I really see no There are relatively few restrictions placed on this building if it's landmarked or not I don't know if anybody has any further questions. Any questions on the architectural Oliver, excuse me, I'll the person Belanger Thank You President Hammond Would you feel comfortable giving a ballpark? Dollar figure as to what it would cost to redo the roof and get an ADA compliant and Sprinklers and get everything I should Sprinklers issues too for existing buildings that are eligible for the national register You can use the international existing building code that is the building code that we use here in Wisconsin That would not depending on future use of the building it would not force you to make that building ADA compliant There is a ramp that leads to the first floor and the entire first floor is accessible That's usually the baseline minimum for ADA accessibility in all public buildings and places of work So as of right now the building meets all compliance standards As far as depending upon what the usage would be Depending on what the future use of the building there would be some if the building would stay Relatively in a similar use to what it's being used now. There would be nothing that would trigger Let's say elevators to be installed so that there would be accessibility to basement or the upper butcher level There are provisions in our building code. We use them all the time And there are all kinds of public buildings in the city that are not accessible right now As far as sprinklers are concerned, it's an existing building its grandfathered in unless there was some major change of use That would happen to the building nothing would trigger sprinkler systems So as it stands right now, you wouldn't have to worry about that the numbers that I have seen from other Contractors in town who have taken a stab at putting numbers together for this building have been in like a give-or-take That was also for Spaceport years ago. They were putting massive additions on the rare So I personally have not put any numbers together for it. I haven't looked at Detail whatsoever, but that is a number that I have seen Thank you any other questions for miss Lurkey Before we move on. Okay. Thank you very much Alderman Carlson Thank you. One of the bigger issues that I have with this is the fact that the I Think we're putting the cart before the horse here the Armory Foundation doesn't exist on paper It's not a legal entity and that's who filed this motion. There is no plan There is no Plan that has been presented to the city as of yet and like I said, it's almost been a two-year process Once again, I don't think we need to go through this process because there is no plan out there it's been almost two years and I guess according to a miscommunication. They haven't filed their 501 c3 They haven't filed tax papers even though we were told they did last year and a finance meeting There are a lot of issues here, and I don't think we need to do this to be quite honest with you. Thank you Thank you. Lemon Carlson all the men who say I am the senior water Rain Said the lodge does not have Somebody comes as a wedding there I think it's a good move like it's been said here Okay, thank you Older men born you're next Thank You mr. President Question if this building is not designated a historical structure that does not preclude Mr. Peters group from coming through with proposal to the finance committee doesn't know and it doesn't preclude them From getting their 501 designation. That's historical structure has nothing to do with that. No, thank you All the men bitters Thank you again, mr. President with all due respect to all the men who say and our architect speaker the When in her in her comments she she mentions well You'd be grandfathered if it wasn't a Changing purpose of the building Well the Armory Foundation whether they're recognized as an actual foundation or not their plan that The last plan I saw Coming to the city Talked about radical reuses for the for the building that As soon as you start remodeling rooms on the different floors And repurposing the main floor Entirely could be Suddenly not grandfathered anymore There there's a lot of other deeper issues In whether this could be used in the way that we're talking about if you're gonna keep it a basketball court Okay, but anything that you were gonna do upstairs it calls into question whether or not This that the plan that they came up was so far Is any good or not? And I go back to Alderman Alderman Carlson's comments that you know he had two years of Get anybody in here with a viable plan that we could act on That hasn't happened So I don't I Don't have any problem with the nostalgia and whether we should keep this as historic building Just realize what you're getting into if we pursue down the Let's make this historic it adds an extra hurdle if we ever did decide to do something different That's all I have Thank you. Okay. Thank you. I'll I'm in teal Thank you, mr. President. I just want to mention that what we're voting on here today is landmarking a building This isn't any discussion about if the shaboy foundation is gonna go in there Whether or something else is gonna go in there. What we're here to do is landmark a building. I think we need to remember that And Personless art Thank You President Hammond, and we have a question for attorney Adams By landmarking this building what restrictions does it have on the property and on us? You know in short It adds another layer is what it does I think earlier during public forum the comet was made that it doesn't prevent this The demolition of the property and that is correct as it is but it does Basically add another layer of there's a time frame There's a holding period during which no action could be taken and the historic commission takes a look at that That's it to put it into a nutshell. That's what it does Is it adds another layer of let's look at this before we make that a decision to do these a Major demolition or a major project on the outside Any other discussion we're gonna have to Any other discussion from the other person It was a motion in a second to accept and file Recommendation of the committee to designate it a historic landmark so By voting I you're accepting that it's a accepting the Resolution to make it a historic landmark You're not everybody understand what they're going on five eyes six nose Motion fails 3.2 through 3.9 will be referred to various committees for resolutions 4.1's a resolution by Myself authorizing entering into an agreement with Donahue and associates for engineering services for the reconstruction of Pennsylvania Avenue From North 7th Street to North 5th Street All the person bellinger. Thank you, mr. President move to suspend the rules Second some motion in a second to suspend any objections Rules are suspended alderman bellinger. Thank you move to pass the resolution I get right motion is second to put the resolution upon its passage under discussion nearing none will the clerk please call the roll eleven eyes motion carries 4.2 resolution by myself authorizing the continuation of the self-insured workers compensation program all the person bellinger Thank you and move to suspend the rules Any objections to suspending the rules Hearing none, please continue. Thank you make a motion to pass the resolution It's most in a second to put the resolution upon its passage under discussion Hearing none, please call the roll 11 eyes motion carries 4.3 a resolution by myself authorizing submittal of an Office of Healthy Homes and Lead Hazard control grant and approving the memorandum of understanding between the city county and housing authority Alderman bellinger Thank You mr. President motion to suspend any objections to suspending the rules Please continue. Thank you, then move to pass the resolution Motion is second to put the resolution upon its passage under discussion Hearing none will the clerk please call the roll Ten eyes one no motion carries 4.3 4 through 4.1 1 will be referred to various committees And the reports of committees 5 1 and RC by law and licensing to whom was referred RO number 10 15 16 by the city clerk Submitting various license applications Recommends that the taxi cab driver's license application number 68 68 be denied based on his failure to accurately reveal all relevant convictions on his Application is record of violations related to the license of Fent or activity and his record as a repeat law Violator other person Lissard. Thank You president Hammond. I move that the report of committee be accepted and adopted Motion in multiple seconds Under discussion He came before our committee and there was a number of citations that he failed to put on his application One Standing out the most is he had a felony eluding that took two months for him to turn himself in and the police department did not recommend us approving this application so I Am asking for the support of this court All the personal sorry Sorry, I apologize is been cleansing here Please continue Any under discussion? We know where the clerk. Please call the roll 11 eyes Motion carries five two and five three will be re-referred to public protection and safety Six one under ordinances six one through six four will be revered referred to various committees Which takes us to other matters City Attorney Adams, we have three the first one seven point one is a resolution accepting two hundred and thirty nine thousand four hundred fifty nine dollars in grant monies from the US Environmental Protection Agency for green infrastructure implementation at the land in King parks that will be referred to finance 7.2 is an RO submitting various license applications for the period and in December 31st 2015 and June 30th 2017 that'll be referred to lawn licensing 7.3 is an RO submitting various license applications for the period ending June 30 2016 that'll be referred to lawn licensing that said we have Concluded all the person bellinger move to adjourn the most in a second to adjourn All those in favor say aye aye post your adjourned. Thank you