 Hello, and welcome, sir. How are you doing? How are you doing, Satan? How's life? Oh, you know, it's very, it's nice here in hell. The coronavirus doesn't exist here. It's fine. It evaporates before it can get down there. Although all the toilet paper down here is used already. So that's one downfall. But everything else is doing fine. It's working on my comic. I don't think I mentioned it on EFAT, but I have a comic out. Dr. Alpha in Dr. Alpha Miracle Child on Indiegogo is still available. It has something actually big coming on that fund. So if you give me a link, that'll be in the top of the description if you want. Oh, sure. Just give me a second here. Heck, that shizzle out. What can you tell people about it? Oh, the blurb is Dr. Alpha is one of the most dangerous super villains in the galaxy, but only one of them. So it's kind of, it's going in the veins of Alan Moore's killing joke. It was really inspired by the killing joke. It's a big fan of Alan Moore, big fan of Neil Gaiman, and specifically Garth Ennis and Frank Miller. So it's kind of a mix of all those. But it's kind of putting the perspective of a superhero world in from the perspective of a super villain. And it's about as a lot of twists and turns, it was made with a pulp fiction formula, not the movie, but the actual genre of writing. So I use an old pulp fiction formula to write it. People said it was really good. And I also have another comic out that came free, if you sign up for this one, the LadyBidnight Christmas Special. It came out around January, a little late. But as soon as this other thing lands for Dr. Alpha, this next new project, this next new installment in it, I'll release a new link so that everyone who backed it can have a read through of LadyBidnight, the jolly goodbye. It's 10 pages long. Oh, there you go. It's awesome. And it's really awesome that you're creating stuff like that. How do you find the split between that and sort of YouTube videos and stuff? It's pretty tough. Well, we've got more indoor time now, right? Oh, yeah. Especially now. But fortunately for me, I'm just the writer on it, and I'm not the artist on it. So my job was to finish the script, which I did. And now the art is being produced. It's good. It's good. Ex-an artist. Yes. And speaking of which, I feel like, I don't know, pure whatever eFab, I should probably just casually mention like, yes, we're aware of the coronavirus thing that's happening. Be careful, I guess, everybody. Stock up on that toilet paper, but maybe, you know, not too much. They need to open a toilet paper store. That's it. Like, that's all they sell. Just have it connected to the warehouse and it just drops in silent. I saw this video. I don't know if you've seen it. It was on Twitter, where these people bring out a palette of toilet paper, and these other customers just run up to it, start ripping it apart and grabbing it. I think I saw that. And I saw people fighting over this stuff. They put in zombie sounds, and it was perfect. I mean, here in America, it gets crazy. I mean, we had people stabbing each other over chicken's hand, which is a Popeyes. So you can only imagine how violent they could get over toilet paper. You ate the chicken sandwich, now you need the toilet paper to finish it off. Resort to leaves, you know? Gosh, what are things coming to? That's too pedestrian. You can't use leaves. Well, just have the kind of diet that gives you what do they call them, like phantom poops or ghost poops, where they just plop right out and you didn't even know. There you go. That's the solution. No need for toilet paper. Well, I mean, if you've got loads of clothes, you know, you're going to have to sacrifice a couple of them, I guess. That's where we're at now. Society crumbles. So, man, we're down to the Versace. I'm just picturing what magazines is probably the first thing people go to, right? I guess. But yeah, from what I understand, there's plenty of toilet paper in warehouses, and they just need to get them to the stores. That's all. Yeah, it's going to be delivered. Yeah. Don't start using your issues of People Magazine or Mad Magazine. You can use the Enquirer, I guess, but save the other ones. Do you know anybody who has it yet? That's becoming a thing now. It's like, does anyone know anyone yet? As far as I'm aware, none of my friends or family have it yet. Me neither. I'm not that famous yet. Yeah, we need to expand the network. Yeah. Are there any YouTubers of some fame? Have any of them gone down with it yet? I'm pretty sure if they have, they would make endless videos about it. Yeah. They'd have an endless stream about it, because that's how you get money now. You could say out of the coronavirus, and then you get your top building. Oh, speaking of top building, the amount of coronavirus films that'll come out years from now is going to be these horror films where it'll have that green CGI effect on someone's hand, and then they touch a wall and it stays there, and some other guy rests against it and goes on him, and then he hugs his baby, and it's like, then the intro goes to the baby. Have you read Max Brooks's World War Z? No, I saw the film. I just thought it was kind of ironic that because the zombie virus in World War Z starts in China too. What are you doing over there, Chayna? Max Brooks predicted this years ahead of time. Well, there's that weird theory that's like, was it a weapon? Was it a weapon that was prematurely released? It's like, I doubt it. Because apparently they had some sort of lab there in Wuhan. That's where the thing originated. I'll tell you what, it's a good time to be a Martian. I'll say that. They are laughing at us right now. Not getting over here. They got plenty of toilet paper. They first they send us soy, now they send us the coronavirus. Thanks, Martians. Imagine that, like, you know how they said there's little capsules or whatever into space filled with pieces of human culture and stuff? Imagine they just threw the coronavirus in there. They're just like, oh, you know, give them a bit of a human experience. Hey, it's like, what the fuck? It affects the whole planet. All of humanity is in there now. Yes. They're the good and the bad. Yeah, we had, you know, it's thematically relevant. We have to tell them about our hills and valleys. They're like a bloody kitchen knife in there. They're like, okay. I heard recently that you and I and many others are having a video made about them from the wonderful Patricia Taksin. Oh, yeah. I was told, though, that I don't actually appear in the video. She just stole my artwork to make the thumbnail. So, I'm on the video. Well, yes, I mean, you know, putting Satan on your thumbnail, not bad. Yeah. So, I mean, people couldn't, hey, look, this looks good. Yeah, I think the, the theory right now going is that it's going to, you know, put the, put the lid on objectivity, stop us naughty boys from talking about it. So, everyone out there who will listen to this in the future, our time, our time on YouTube is done. Our days are numbered. Patricia Taksin. It's pretty funny, we both look like villainous characters, though. It's cackling about objectivity. If something was to be proven about whether or not the categorization of objectivity is false or not, the fundamental that I think is relevant here would be our arguments are all still there. So, if they appeal to the individual, they would still be completely sound. Right. I mean, regardless of whether, whether, what connections or what the conclusions, Patricia Paksin's or Taksin, whatever her name is, whatever conclusions she comes to in that video, that doesn't take away the work that is out there already, the videos that we've made already. So, we, because I know this is true in your videos, and I try to make it true in mine, but that we, we put forth a premise, and then we put forth assertions, and then we put forth examples to boost those assertions, and those create arguments. And people can look at those arguments and they can say, well, that's not, that doesn't fit. I don't agree with those, or they can say, I agree with those. So, it doesn't matter what label you put on these arguments, or what label you put on our final mentality that sent us to make these arguments. What matters is, are these arguments fitting to you? Do these arguments make sense to you? These arguments now seem real to you or not? And they become much more effective once you find out the individual's position on, on the content. So, for example, I get just right into a position where he, he like, he essentially agrees tacitly that Holdo is a bit stupid. And the killer argument for that one is when Poe discovers the transports, they're all being fueled and people are going into them. So, telling him the plan at that point is no different, if you're concerned about him leaking it, than it is now. He can leak that regardless, you know? He can leak the fact that you've got transports that are about to leave. So, tell him the plan anyway. Like, if you're really concerned about it being a mole, which by the way, she's not. There's just no indication of that whatsoever. But let's just say you are. She decides to let everybody die so that he can't find out about crate. You can't wrestle out of that one. That's just her being utterly ridiculous. And so, like he said, that didn't bother him, you know, that element. But the thing is, when you look at their own work, like, he uses that as the crux of his argument for Poe's arc. Like, his being wrongness and his fuck up with the leaking information relies on Holdo not telling him the plan. So, if your thesis requires that piece to make sense, and it doesn't, it should then, you know, change your outcome, right? Like, your own thesis. Right. So, sometimes you need to find out what these people's positions even are, rather than just pointing out how these things are silly. And they, you know, instead they just go, ah, I don't care about it. And you're like, okay. But then you find out later. It's like, oh, you did care about it though. You do care about this a lot. You're just telling me that now because, you know, it doesn't make sense. You don't want to be proven. You don't want to be wrong. You don't want to be, you don't want to have this assertion. And then you'll be wrong. You just like the movie. Okay. It's not just, they're not trying to put forth some sort of philosophy. They just really like the last Jedi. Which is fine. You just really like the movie. It's fine. Go ahead and like it. It's very, it's a, it's action. Well, not really action packed. It's, it, there's a lot of visuals. There's a lot of, it has stuff in it. There's things happen. There's the lightsaber clashes at one point. It may be a wonky dream, but it does, it counts. It's a series of events. It certainly is a series of events that they, that happen. Take place next to each other. Um, but yeah, so that'll be interesting to check out. I'm guessing you guys would cover that one on your, um, I'll guess possibly is it, uh, you and some other one. Yeah, probably. I've been told that she's been trying to do this stuff. And, uh, I'm not sure she did one on Jack St. Or Jack made one on me and, uh, Patricia cameoed for about, I think a 10 minute segment inside it. Is that why you're, you're gone from YouTube? Is that why I was, I was killed. Expunged. They have one of the things that makes me, makes me laugh is the, uh, so in my Black Panther video, I question, uh, why he's called Black Panther in the first place. And, uh, they find that would like the, the peak of Nick Pickery. And I was like, Oh man, I'd love to like just, just have them, uh, in a conversation for that one point, I'd be like, so. Do you know why he's called Iron Man? It's like, he, they, they comment on it in the film. I think he says it's an accurate name. It's just the one that the press sort of apply after they see a man made of metal. Oh yeah. Um, Captain America, he's like this patriotic cartoon hero. He, he absorbs that personality and then actually fights and just owns the name. And then it's Sheldon's to cap. You're like, okay, um, Captain Marvel had this problem. I don't know if you saw that movie, but, um, no, I still, I saw the previews of the movie and the trailers of the movie. It, unless, unless I can use it, I'm not going to watch it. They couldn't, um, they screwed it up. So she, her original job was like a pilot. She was a captain. Like, all right, I'm following. Then her boss was called Mar-Vell. Like that was the name Mar-Vell. And, uh, it's getting lazy. At the end of the film, when she gets her like, you know, huge second wind and wins, wins the whole thing, she refers to it. She says, I am Carol. It's really funny. But, uh, not Captain Marvel or anything. And so you're supposed to assume she pulled the name Mar-Vell, made it Marvel. And then she retains the rank from like years ago and she was a part of the Air Force. Like I was really confused. I was like, why is she called Captain Marvel? Like that doesn't follow. Same for Black Panther, right? You're like, oh, well, he's wearing a Black Panther suit. So he's called Black Panther. And it's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm rolling back further than that. Why is it a Black Panther suit? Why? He just has the Black Panther suit. And I know that people are like, well, did you need to know? I was like, I guess not really. But it's still pretty funny that he's like the only one outside of Captain Marvel that they've actually fucked this up on. It's not hard. It's actually a pretty good question. I mean, they could have brought in some sort of like legend or something. Well, they had an opportunity. Their God was vast. I think the Panther God or something, but they never make the connection. They're just like, Panther God is... I'm not even sure if it's very confusing enough to watch it again. But it's like the comet brought the vibranium that infected a plant that they ate and became superhumans. Also, they managed to weave the vibranium into this suit. And they based the look of the suit after a Panther, I guess. But that's the part that I wanted in the film. Of course, the design was based after Bust. Then I would assume, I was like, why isn't that in there? And that's just a casual question. I'm just like, why didn't you include the part where he's called Black Panther? And they all find it hilarious as a criticism. I'm just like, I don't know. Make sense to me. But yeah, fine, annihilated. That's the thing. I don't mind fucking things up. I point out my own fuckups quite irregularly. One of the ones that still blows my mind is that Black Panther starts in... It's like a flashback thing. I'm probably going to get this wrong again. But I think it's 1997, 1992, and I called it 1977. So that makes everybody significantly older, if that was the truth. I was like, oh fuck. It happens. And that's the thing. It's fine. Oh yeah, it happens all the time. Yeah. I'm probably going to get some stuff wrong today. Which obviously, yeah, the whole reason we're here, I'll put timestamps so people know where the conversation starts. I was, I've watched Avatar The Last Airbender relatively recently. And my fans were very distraught to find out that I was not a fan. I hope there was some rumblings going on. Some rumblings. Some rumblings. Yes, people. This is one of those... We've had a few of these in the past. So like saying that Spider-Man Homecoming is good. Saying Godzilla, King of the Monsters is bad. And saying Mandalorian is bad. These are the most controversial things that have come out of eFab. There's a couple more of them. And people, depending on how controversial the stance, people want qualification, right? Faster. It makes sense. It's just that sometimes you need to, I want to get the format right. I don't want to just like, blur it out random thoughts. Because I think it can piss people off even more, you know? Oh yeah. But you know, we've done that plenty of times. I think one of the things we concluded, because about Godzilla, like, one of the initial sort of ideas was like, Godzilla's not supposed to be like well-written. It's just monsters fight each other. And it's just weird. I'm like, why couldn't it be just make it well-written too? You couldn't fight monsters. Yeah, the very first Godzilla was well-written. I mean, it was a masterpiece of a... It was like a commentary on the dangers of nuclear power and energy. And the dangers of going too far with science. It had all kinds of themes and context and things it was trying to say. They wrapped it up in a giant monster. But to make it entertaining, but it was still very well-written. Have you seen the new one? The brand new one? No, not the brand new one. The villain's motivation is humans are ruining the planet with stuff like climate change. We need monsters to get rid of all of us. Wow. Okay, actually, I'm not surprised that modern Hollywood would make things something like that. Yeah. They hate people. They actually hate people. I just got blown away by it because like halfway through the movie, she realizes her daughter is potentially going to die and above us all this and like the child's dance is in it. And he has like one scene where he gets to talk properly and he's like, what exactly did you think would happen? It's like, what? The monsters were just going to like stamp on all the bad men. It's like, jeez. But it's weirdly rational because the film, you know, is kind of retarded constantly. And there's just like that one character who's pointing it out and he's like, probably shuffle him off. You know, you don't want to do that. Yeah. You know, we still haven't released. We're getting around to the eFab movies of we've got like a reaction, anything watching that film. So they'll, you know, people will be able to see the arguments for that more in depth. But this one, I think I've seen a lot of people want to hear what I have to say about this, this show. And I figured I did talk to ER about some of my issues. And he did clear some stuff up for me that I had like misunderstood. But I thought, yeah, we could hang out and talk a bit about have a talk last year, Bender, if you're willing. Yeah, it sounds good to me. All right. And so I saw it the one time and this is going off of what I remembered and then just clarifying some things through like Wikipedia's and stuff to make sure I didn't screw some stuff up. And obviously I'm coming from the perspective that I would call the show sub par. Like if I was to put on a 10 scale, it's like a four, um, which I know is very controversial. It's something that's supposed to say. Yeah, that's the thing. Like as much as we, you know, point those out as like a funny thing, it's like, it is, it is fucking like I understand this happens both ways. Like if someone walks into a call and just casually admits like, yeah, the OT probably the worst of the Star Wars films, like everyone else is going to be silent for a moment. It'd be like, excuse me. But what was that? It's like, well, you know, they try to be as good as the sequels, but they just don't get there. No, they heard you correctly. And, um, like all I would say about, um, statements like that until they qualify it, you could ignore it. Because what does it mean exactly unless they do qualify and then you're going to have to see about what the qualification is. Because I don't see many videos criticizing the OT, except for return of the Jedi. Most people don't go after empire or a new hope. There's some sacred cows in pop culture. And the original Star Wars trilogy, that's one of them. I mean, you can criticize. Yeah, yeah. We did that once. People were like, I think, I can't remember if it was a Super Charo comment, but it was like the second they criticized the OT, all of you have all crumbled because that's what the audience is based on. And I was like, all right, it's stupid that the speeder ships in empire attack the AT-AT's head on. They should have gone around. It's like, it's just, well, that's the thing, right? So it was like, how dare you? I'd be like, I mean, you know, just about them from behind. What are they going to do? I can't remember. I'd have to re-watch it, but I don't think they have any weaponry on their backs today, the AT-AT's. No, they don't. They just have them on that head thing that they have. Yeah. And some of the speeder ship things that are actually wiped out by those. And so it's just like, damn, guys, you should have cycled around the area and come at them. But this is the thing. I love empire. It's like my favorite Star Wars movie. There's loads of good shit in there, but it's not like, there's not going to be some stuff you can, you can pick out. I just, the last thing I want is people thinking, uh-huh. So they're just as good as the sequels. You're like, I got a bit. And no, never go that far. The sequels are garbage. Oh, yeah. I want to clarify. I don't think Avatar is as bad as the sequels in any way, shape or form. Some hyperbolic things were said. This would be the very calm discussion where we try and say everything we mean, as opposed to hyperbolic statements. So yeah, like if I don't know where I put it. So have you seen Crisis on Infinite Earths at all? Uh, I know it's, which one? I think they've done that. Oh, the recent, uh, the recent CW. Oh, the one with the Arrowverse? Yeah. I haven't watched any of those. They all look terrible. So they are my zero or one, I guess, on the scale. Like that. I'm so glad I've watched it now because I'm like, yep, that is rock bottom. They, um, they destroy time and space, but like a wizard teleports them to a place outside of time and space. And they just chill. And I was like, this place exists outside of time and space. You're like, that's interesting. So lazy. When you add in time travel, that's how you know you've run out of ideas unless your whole show is predicated on time travel. Yeah. Oh, it's, it's mind-numbing. They break every possible thing you could possibly ever build anything with. So yeah, Batwoman is like a step above that. It's still really bad, but it's like a step above. And then like the sequels are steps above that, but they're still the worst thing ever as well. Like maybe one step. So I'm building up and then, you know, there's this nice big gap. And then we're close to like average, I guess. And I just put like avatars just below the line for me. And yeah, we can talk about why if you'd like. Sure, let's go ahead. So, um, see what you got. All right. So you probably agree that all of the stakes, at least for the end of season two, are built by the idea that if he is killed in the avatar state, the avatars gone forever, that will break the cycle. Right. Yeah. And that's, as far as I remember, he, they mentioned that that if he is in the avatar state, he's killed, breaks the avatar cycle. I'm not really sure how they know that. That was going to be my question. Because this is the thing. When it was first introduced, I think I was, I could have off if I asked Wolf or not, but I remember just thinking about it like, How would you know? Because you'd be dead. Mr. Avatar. I think it's a, it's a piece of knowledge that has just been spread around into common knowledge. And it's probably coming from who knows if it's true or not. First of all, which that's not really the point, but it could, there is enough ambiguity there because the avatar has been around for a long, long time. I'm really sure how long it is. And ironically, I know, and Cora, they kind of recond it to being ridiculously short. Yeah. But in Avatar, let's say murder, I forgot what it canonically was, but it's been a long time. It's been several, many, many, general reincarnations of the avatar. So it could be, there's some scholars in the background as they've been shown that the world includes a lot of scholarly organizations. And even from season one, they included this. And then there could have been someone who knew, I can, someone to put things together. Like we have scientists today that can conjecture by logic and things that this and this and this will happen if this happens. It hasn't happened before. It's not, it's something that could happen. Others putting together what might be able to happen if certain conditions are met within the universe or atmosphere or whatever. I could say the same thing might happen with the avatar state. There might be some scholars who are very well-rounded, well-studied in the spiritual aspects of the earth and the spiritual nature. As if you remember in season one, the avatar is said to be the bridge between the mortal world and the spirit world. And the avatar itself is very connected to the spiritual world, the spiritual nature of the earth. Which is why I'm pretty sure it's called avatar because he's supposed to be the representation of all the earth's might and power and all that stuff. So there could very well have been some guy or some scholars. So weird that she is. Stephen Hawkins. She has the name of James Cameron's avatar. So weird to know this. I didn't think he did it on purpose, honestly. I think he did it on purpose. Yeah, it's very possible. I think all he cares about is the fame and the money at this point. He wants it to be super... That's been delayed now because of coronavirus. Yeah, because of coronavirus, like everything else has. But I think there could have been some spiritual scholar or some nature scholar. It's weird that they didn't... There's Stephen Hawkins or whatever. It's weird they didn't have any sort of even a throwaway line for it. Because there's a lot of stuff we could sort of assume as to how it's possible that they knew it. And I would say the pin point of the criticism would be that the season two finale's big emotional payoff is based on that knowledge. And so it's like, how did we know this? And it's just like, they kind of just do. It's fine. It's like, okay. They kind of just do. I mean, it's been so much... It's been an avatar's been around so long. It's so much ambiguity that we can kind of accept that someone delved into it somehow. There's some spiritual sage who can tell us these sorts of things in the past. Yeah. Again, these are more just sort of getting them said. I'm really not looking for one of us to either concede or deny or whatever. Just to explore kind of both sides, how it could be better, how it could be worse, maybe, and then just move on to another one. And this is hopefully brain food for people who both like and don't like avatar. And obviously just looking for discussion about it. I don't think I've ever met someone who didn't like avatar as their friend. Everyone holds it up on such a high pitch. I think maybe, I don't know what it is. Like, I just... We'll get through some more of these and I'll try and explain it better, like what my experience was, I guess. So, Aang's been frozen for a hundred years. And he wakes up or he's woken up by what I think a lot of people would call like. It wasn't like a cause and effect thing. And he's like, oh my goodness, like he's stumbled across, which is fine. But within the next few months, if my timeline's correct, he like is able to sort of deal with two, what I would call very, at least by the world's rules, from what I understand, extremely rare galactic events that like, had he woken up a few months, or let's say a year later, he would have lost essentially. Like the Fire Nation would have taken over completely because of Sozin's Comet. So I guess what I'm saying is like, wow, it's really convenient timing that he would manage to wake up before what they established is going to be their only chance to take out the Fire Nation during the Black Sun and before Sozin's Comet fully arrived, despite being asleep for a hundred years. Obviously that is, what I'm talking about is the premise of the show at that point, but do you see what I mean? Yeah, but there's a lot of aspects of fate, just right from the show's title, The Last Airbender. He's the one guy, I mean, it's an aspect of fate by itself that he just happens to have a relationship with that monk. What is the way of his name? Iskyatsu or something like that. So, so tight-knit was the relationship that the other monks decided to separate them so he can get some training done. And his nature, by his very nature, decides to run away because he's a playful kid, and he's also a kid. And it's by a twist of fate, he was caught in a storm on his way to run away that caused him to fall into the ocean. That caused him to freeze himself, and then he happened to be found 100 years later. And it's a spirit, fate, destiny. It's a lot of things that are happening in the Avatar Last Airbender that wouldn't be really all the acceptable in, say, another franchise. But in this franchise specifically, it's more tolerable, if not completely acceptable because they added in the nature of spirits, nature of fate, and nature of destiny because destiny on its own chooses the avatar. It's kind of like anyone, there's so many people that could have been the Avatar, but Aang was chosen specifically by fate or by destiny. And you could say that he was frozen by fate, maybe he's frozen by destiny. He was destined to freeze, and he was destined to be thought out the right time. And then maybe there is some hand in there because destiny in the first place chose Aang to become the Avatar. The Earth is the one that controls this stuff. So yeah, those are there, I think, specifically for a reason because it's to make you ask these questions. Is there some sort of guiding hand about? Is there some sort of spirit or some nature or will of the Earth that kind of manipulates events to certain degrees? But it's never answered. It's sort of like it's there, we might be able to imply it, but it's never specifically answered. Though there are some sort of evidence there, like the nature of the spirit realm and how spirits can take form enter the world. And there are other spiritual and metaphysical aspects that can help explain that to a degree. So you would sort of imply there that destiny sort of pushed Kitara and Saka into the position of having to wake him up through different things. And their timing was close. Because if they had waited any longer, whoof. Very close. But yeah, all I'm going to say is mechanically, like it's just it was incredibly important to take advantage of those two events. And obviously the other criticisms are put to rest by the idea that these are very rare things. Like, for example, it's like, how does everyone know what eclipses do? And it's like, because eclipses are very rare in this universe, I guess. So in that case, then it's just like, damn, it was lucky he got up in time for that. And I get it. Like if a guiding, not Jesus, but some kind of higher force is going to be pushing things into certain directions. I would say that's not preferable for me in my story, even though it happens in things I love a lot. Like I've just it'll bring in the questions, of course. Like, why aren't you doing more spirit people? Why are you doing more Jesus? He's just sitting up there like pushing chess pieces. I mean, the avatar on its own is very rare. There's only one of them at a time in any generation. And then you have the, because of the, well, let's say the Eastern mysticism they added in here, the Chinese mysticism, the kind of mythology they have in here. There is a lot of, there's a lot to do with fate and destiny and whether or not you choose your own, you choose your own, or is there someone guiding your hands? You know, to the power, you go back, the power of the ancestors, guiding your family's destiny, which is why they traditionally pray to the ancestors. Because if you didn't, you might upset an ancestor and suddenly you're, I don't know, someone keys your car or something. I don't know. But that is so much fate tied into when you add in the East, especially Eastern mysticism. I mean, it exists in Western mysticism too. But when you add in Eastern mysticism, it also adds in that aspect of fate and ancestral destiny, ancestral line, ancestral blood. And so it's very easy to recognize or to acknowledge that there might be some sort of continual interference by the spirits or by someone from the past. And that element is actually in there with the element of the avatar's past selves, which Aang does interact with on occasion, specifically Roku, most of all. I guess Roku went off to find his own TV line or something. But he convenes with the past lives of the avatar. There are spirits, there are spiritual realm. The avatar is noted as the bridge between the mortal realm, spiritual realm. So those aspects are in there, those aspects that are tied specifically to fate. So yeah, the sotan's comet is very rare and is very lucky that they found Aang when they did. And that Katara was able to break that gigantic boulder of ice with Saka's little bat thing, his little weapon. I've got what they're actually called, but... Is that a boomerang? No, that's a boomerang. Oh, right. I'm sorry, yeah, I know. It's club. I forgot what they're specifically called. Used to know what they're specifically called, but she was able to break that thing on her own with her puny little arms. They break that gigantic block of ice and free Aang, right, when he needed to be. So it's also, you have to remember that the avatar is there. So in the first place, to calm certain events. Now it's implied that it's possible that an avatar could go their whole lives without encountering a world-changing event. Roku almost did. He was really old by the time his big calamity came upon him, but there usually is one, at least one, gigantic thing in a generation, but the avatar is specifically there to do this sort of thing. He's put there by fate or by the fate of the earth or whatever you want to call it, but the avatar isn't the avatar because the earth chose him to be the avatar, or whatever you want to call it. That's the easy way to put the earth chose him to be the avatar. That's how it goes. It's weird to begin with, but there's also inherently an aspect of fate. Well, it was interesting you brought up Roku because the next thing, this is something I was just sticking in the old noggin. So they make a big deal about how the avatar can speak to the past avatar, specifically Roku by going to a fire temple and he needs to enter the temple's sacred room once the light from the winter solstice hits the statue's eyes. He can speak with Roku directly. I think the way he's made aware of that is through Roku's dragon in the spirit world. Enter the spirit world, and he was able to be guided there by Roku. Yeah, Roku. Roku's animal. So it's a huge deal when he finally gets to speak to him. Obviously he learns a lot of important stuff from that. But then there are other instances where Roku casually shows up and it just confuses me a little bit. When Aang is out in the middle of the ocean and he's really down on his motivation, Roku shows up and gives him a bit of an Obi-Wan style. Like, Luke, let's get going, buddy. You gotta do it. This is important. He's in the finale. I think it's the one before the finale. I can't remember. When he's talking about killing Ozai, like obviously Roku gives his perspective on that one. I assume he would have been, let's say, in Aang's head in some degree when he becomes Godzilla at the end of Season 1, because I doubt Aang knew what he was doing with that. It was more the other avatars. Then there's, do you remember Zhong Zhong? The Fire Nation, Fire Teacher, Firebender. Oh, yeah. Was he part of the Lotus Club? Yes. So he's like, I'm not going to teach you Aang because I think he says he's too reckless or something like that, or weak, I think it is. And Roku just shows up and he's like, hey, teach him. He's like, okay, geez, I'll do it. And it's like, man, Roku could just sort of, because they made a huge deal out of it, but then it just sort of seems that he could just show up where he wants to when he wants to. And I'm just like, man, why isn't he like teaching Aang? Why isn't he tutoring him on loads of stuff? Because it was incredibly important information that he got out of Roku when he meets him in Season 1. And I just figured that Roku could tell him all kinds of things. Because obviously, I think in Season 3, Roku gives him the full history on him and Sozin. And I guess to teach Aang about just how a friendship can go to shit, how it can start a war, that sort of thing. And I was just like, man, the amount of knowledge Roku has and for some reason, like they established that it's this well that is impossibly hard to actually tap, but then simultaneously it just shows up whenever he kind of needs. Sorry about that. No problemo. Did you hear what was the last thing you heard me say? Oh yeah, you're talking about how Roku just came out of nowhere and actually convinced Zhong Zhong to train Aang? Yeah, he also pops up in the ocean and he pops up on that lion turtle just for the finale. And he pops up on his own hometown islandy thing to tell Aang stuff. And so basically like, I think in Season 1, they were like, this is a huge deal. And then they were like kind of wanting him to sort of come in where they needed him to in different areas. And so it just got me to the point where I was like, man, if Roku can do this, he needs to just teach Aang a shit ton of stuff. Go on, Roku. Get in there to be his fire bender teacher. Yeah, just trade him up. I mean, what's what, he's just being lazy. He's lazy Roku. Lazy Roku. But I think the Zhong Zhong thing, I'm not really sure what's going on, but it's been showing all, it's been showing that there's a connection between Zhong Zhong and Airo. And there is, if you remember from the first season, I don't know because it's kind of obscure almost, but remember that there's an episode where Airo gets captured. And in the Abridge series of Avatar, it's called, he was having his naked Airo time and he got captured by Earthbenders. Yeah, yeah. And that's the same episode where Aang goes into the spirit world. And so Airo, well, let me back up a little bit. So Aang, he climbs on Roku's spirit dragon thing. And he goes soaring through the air in the spirit world. No one can see him except for Airo. Airo can see him. And Airo is just, whoa, there's a big dragon going over my head in the spirit realm. And everyone, all the Earthbenders, like, what's going on? Why are you freaking out? He's like, oh, no reason. And but thing is, Airo can, he can see spirits. And he's part of that, he's an old man. Why is old man part of that? Well, yeah, for sure. I think I'm actually on board with the idea that Aang could probably speak to Roku in the spirit world or whatever. It's just weird to me that like, they took so much time to say that it has to be the winter solstice light shining on his statue in the secret room in the fire temple. Like, clearly all of that's not necessary. We can talk to him in other places. Here's what I'm getting at. I mean, the Airo is, he can see spirits. So Zhang Zhang, he being also a wise, a wizened old man, and part of the White Lotus Society or organization or whatever, it would make sense that they share similar techniques. That's what being as part of society might be, to share wisdom, especially a society of old men like that. So maybe Zhang Zhang can also see spirits, but that might explain why Zhang Zhang could see Roku. Now back to Aang and being able to see Roku outside of that temple thingy, is that when the winter solstice is approaching, Aang was a novice. He was basically just Aang who had some natural talent in bending other elements and able to tap into the power of the avatar accidentally. So he was kind of, he was brand new. He was very, he was just told he was the avatar before he was frozen. And they're not supposed to tell you until you're 16, he was 12. And so there you have it. But then, so he was a novice. He was not really focused. He was just a boy. So when he went to the Airtar temple or the temple where he met Roku, he was not connected to his past selves yet. He was not, he was just Aang who could tap into the avatar sometimes. So when he goes into that temple, he meets Roku and Roku helps him connect. They would notice that that's the time when Roku was able to actually come alive, come back to the real world and start destroying stuff and beating up the priests as you do. And then he was able to connect with Aang. To me, that part of the whole winter solstice ritual allowed Aang to focus and connect with his past selves, with his past selves being represented by Roku, the previous avatar. And from then on, he was able to, Roku could connect to Aang directly through the spirit realm. As is the winter solstice event, was able to start and spark that connection in the first place, which was why it was such a big deal that he had to do all that, go to that temple and go to the whole ritual to start that connection in the first place. And then from then on, he had a retroactive connection to Roku from then on out where Roku could just appear when he needed to pick up gear. All I guess I would want is a line for that, just to give me that so I can sit on that nicely as well. But the only other thing that's left is to... Oh, you can see that. See that? I don't see... They might be, by the way, I might have missed it, but I don't see why he isn't telling Aang more as these seasons go on. Like, they're desperately in need of a firebending teacher. And it's like, I don't know, maybe Roku, he could probably do it. And you know, if you were like, I can't firebend as a spirit. I'd be like, no, you don't need to. Just show him the techniques and give him the Yoda style. Like, you need to do the thing with the thing. Yeah, because that's a good point because as you've seen when Iroh teaches Zuko, he's not showing him all the time. He's just saying, it's your breath, here's the movements and this is what you do to do fire. You know, to firebend. Yeah, don't do that. So that is a good question. That would set up a perfect, I mean, it would kind of detract from the story, but I don't know the cheap. It would be cheap because Roku's not just a firebender. He was a people's avatar. You could just easily have just showed Aang everything. Yeah, definitely go for it. So this one, this one's hard to sort of box in. But so Aang's got like a huge issue with killing to the point where he at one point says like he wouldn't even want to harm a spiderfly that was caught in its own web. I think that's his line. Yet I take large issue with his like very casual response to what could be significant death in different areas of the show. The example I think is most significant would be season one with the the air temple war. That and the water monster one at the end of season one, but I'd rather focus on the war one. He like you have this scenario where they are living in his his air temple area. But the only reason they've been allowed to stay there is because they're providing weapons to the Fire Nation, right? When they go, all right, there's some ethical stuff here. Okay, I'm liking it. This is good. Aang is told like he's highly aware of the scenario being like important and he knows how important himself being there is to the Fire Nation like because they're searching for him. And so the Fire Nation guy turns up and he's like give me my weapons and then Aang like bursts out and he's like fuck you go away and blows away that he's like you'll pay for this. Like once he's left, they immediately start planning for war and I was immediately just like geez Aang, like if you'd like I know you don't want the Fire Nation to have weapons they've already got a shit ton of weapons by the way, but you're going to put this community that's like half children in a position where they're about to like fight a war and they throw in like stink bombs or whatever those things are like this horrifying army that are going to execute them if they can. But my problem goes further because do you remember they have that like gas deposit at the bottom of the area and they They're methane gas? Yeah, like they smell it through one of the bottom chambers of their area and they put rotten eggs in it because they know if they smell eggs they'll know that's where the gas is I guess. And so they can smell it in like this chasm and so they throw their I guess like the sort of heater thing that's applied to their balloon into it and explodes and it like fills the screen like the entire castle is taken up by flames and then all the Fire Nation are just shown to be defeated and they're like yeah and I was like you couldn't possibly have done that without killing somebody. And he just shows no recognition of it and it's very concerning not to mention by the way that if you blew it up and the castle is sitting on that deposit like that place is in trouble to say the least but it's structurally it's fine once the explosion's over it's just like yeah it's fine they got rid of the fire edges it's cool. And yeah so I guess my issue there is I think it's out of character for him to not only like so brazenly start a war but to also not show any remorse after killing many many people. I know it's a kids show so they're never gonna show us like all these corpses that have burned and all these beds screaming and stuff I know that I just like what I I guess what I would want is I don't like that episode at all I would probably remove it it's too I would want to I want to focus on the whole they pilfered his people's temple to make their own place that was enough for me just going over that having him deal with it because they don't really deal with that he has the war and then at the end of the episode he's like like the hermit crab that takes its shell from something else you guys have made something new out of the place you're in woohoo credits I was like wow well the thing about that I mean you you can have that you can say that I mean he's a that might be a mischaracterization of Aang a severe mischaracterization of Aang but there's also evidence that he it might actually be in character if you if you kind of stretch it I guess I don't know but here's the thing Aang is still a kid he's like 12 years old and he has there is there are evidence there are examples in the show where he does things that he just can't really comprehend the full weight of those things like let me see I know well the other characters do that too I mean with the Katara stealing that scroll he's like okay well you know you stole it might as well use it that they have that attitude so and there's also I think Aang fights people and sometimes he doesn't really realize how damaging he could be I can't really think of a specific example it's been a while since I've seen this show but I think there's there are times where because Aang is flawed he's a flawed character he makes mistakes but only sometimes when he's actually faced with the consequences does he realize how bad he has it I mean there's a minor example I can think of right now where he gets kind of gets a big head when he goes to Kyoshi Island and all he gets all this attention and everyone just loves him and he kind of has a fight with Katara the girl he's fallen in love with and they kind of separate because of his his flaw that he has a big head so well I think he might be able to lead this war and defend his temple because the defending of the Erdbender Temple that is a huge thing for Aang I remember he was really affected by the skeleton of the monk's death and how his people were all slaughtered so I that's and he does have a temper which is how sometimes he tapped into the avatar state before he was ready and so I could see that he would become angry I know he from there he constructed a war it might seem non-lethal to him so when they but when they blow things up and he's like he said they can't do anything about killing anybody on that part Aang probably could have assumed that they all lived that it wasn't lethal and he because he might not understand he's 12 years old he doesn't come to comprehend the entirety of what happens in war and it's shown that he's likes to play around he thinks this stuff as a game sometimes like the prison like oh just leaving people here just leave people here and slavery they'll be fine it's not not being hurt because as Bumi as King Bumi says it's all about evasion and moving out of the way for airbenders that's the airbender style it's the airbender mentality get out of the way go with the flow that sort of thing and when it comes to Aang and war he might have just thought those people lived and it was okay for them to go with this explosion but I would see I would say that if he was faced with the consequences of his actions he would feel really bad like he saw on Kyoshi's island when the when the air when the firebenders came and started burning things down he didn't care he knew these he knew the firebenders were after him he knew what that would mean he saw what they did at the at the South Pole South Pole they saw what they did he knows that the people after him are going to bring destruction but did he care in Kyoshi's island no because he couldn't comprehend it he's like the attention surely an explosion of that magnitude like there's not going to be much of a I mean yeah like I said it's probably going to be a stretch it's probably might be actually yeah and a mistake but I could also see Aang just not comprehending that maybe the writers thought it would be in his fitting for his characterization that we've seen up to that point I just I thought it would be super interesting to comprehend to have the because everybody condemns the dad's character and I was like watching I was like I don't know man like I think that I'm on his side like this place which dad that the guy who's making weapons for for the Fire Nation in order to have his community stay in the air temple I'm like I mean yes it's bad that you're giving them more strength but I mean if your options are that or die you know maybe that maybe that wasn't the option and I think that that episode could have focused on that idea and then also mixing in the whole like taking something for your own and especially like I feel like that probably should have been a couple of episodes of Aang really because like I was I don't know that was probably the peak of my investment when Aang was like super pissed off of them for what they've plugged pipes into all of the artwork I was like oh my god this is this is this is this is going to create some tension but um yeah the other part to that that sort of bothers me about that episode is that um the Fire Nation know that Aang or that the the airbender is there like they would have had a lot of visual confirmation obviously so either they conclude that he is there and so they'll send multiple you know factions of their own forces to get there and to get him or they get there and realize he's not there but they they still would have they'll take the place back that's a place where they were defeated in warfare I buy this enormous absurd explosion that obviously they can't pull that trick again so I guess my point is like Aang leaving them like is to their doom but they show up in season three and I was like oh I guess they're okay and they do I think the implication was that in the since Aang led them to victory how to fight back and learn how to essentially war on the road that they were able to hold off the fire nation from from there because I don't know or they rearranged their they could only do that explosion trick the one time though right yeah yeah I mean that's probably what they they wanted to imply they never went back to it they never showed the aftermath but that's what they probably thought you would think that they could from then on after Aang the wise avatar taught them how to fight back they were able to continue fighting back do you remember the Black Sun episode very well it's one where that everyone loses their or all the fire benders lose lose their bending ability do you remember their assaults begins and they're surprised that the fire nation lift a net in the water so they can't travel past it do you remember that I don't remember that episode specifically too too well oh well I mean obviously I'm not gonna lie to you I'll just tell you you could you could make of this from every what you what you will but so our team is heading toward attacking the fire nation and they're in the water and as they're traveling across the fire nation lift this huge net and uh oh yeah so first thing in my head I was just like well you can cut steel with water so you can obviously cut a net with water that's not probably not gonna be that hard but then they set the net on fire the fire nation do like that's even more threatening and I was just like will that destroy the net like but okay fine let's assume the net is just flavor-retarded no wait simultaneously flammable but not destroyable I don't know surely you could put out the fire with the water bending like Katara at that point has been shown to like cause tsunamis so like I I don't see like migraine and everything but they're all like oh god what are we gonna do and then they engage with their submarine plan which then again my head I was just like why didn't you open with this that's like stealthy and really effective and it'll just like drop you all off exactly what you need to go and I just don't see why a fire net was the thing that that screwed them up I was just like huh that uh and you know that's obviously this is a rather big climax this whole being the the black sun episode I mean you know fire is scary okay as Frankenstein let us know let us know all the time fire bad but I mean when you're assaulting a fire and I'm not gonna I don't think I can really defend that really well but uh the thing when you're assaulting a firebender castle or citadel and you think they have no fire no fire bending ability and they give you fire anyway that might be a disheartening or that might damage them around yeah I I'd be like I wonder how they did that wait I think those was that before the eclipse so they pulled that out they might have been before because it happens during the battle I think right oh yeah that's right so they were like it's so they don't waste any time so they might have done that maybe here do you remember the anthology episode with like I think it's like five stories in one episode the bossing say yes that's the bossing say yeah yeah um do you remember because when I was watching that I was like oh no ang needs to get all the animals in the area out into like a zoo that he's gonna create and he meant and he does this thing where he blows really hard on his upper flute thing and it like essentially gets all the animals in the area so like single file approach wherever he wants and I was thinking like at first you're like there you go neat but I was like oh damn so ang knew that he could do that like do you know how many animals they fought across these three seasons in total that he just never uses that against do you remember the like army of weird beetle things that they fought oh yeah just like damn bro use that shit get them all to walk single file off a cliff except they I don't know and I think obviously they were trying out some fun with an anthology thing and I was just like you just gave him a superpower I wouldn't have done that if how are you maybe he just learned it maybe he just learned that trick I don't know maybe it only works on domesticated animals season two and I think there are examples of season one and three that have like animal related enemies to do battle with in some way shape or form I don't know I think the tales of bossing say isn't really something you you think about too much because I mean after he makes a zoo there's no repercussions he just he just destroyed all the stuff he freed all these animals isn't it they made a brand new zoo he made a zoo at war time it's on the outside of the wall outside of the wall you're like you're like who's going to see that thing with your family like checking out the elephants and so then the fire they should just show it with a second drill you're like oh we should go inside better have an earth bender out there you know yeah and save all the animals is to leave all the animals to die then okay but there's no repercussions no it's done against the law bossing say at that time was it was pretty they cracked down pretty tough you know the earth king invited like lalgai that sort of thing that dai li yes you step one side the dai li was actually named after the the chinese i think secrets secret police leader or something like that one of those things so that's why they were so there was they were the bossing say secret police and it was really under a strict control from that guy if you guys name the guy who led the dai li and there's no repercussions for that just you know just stealing all the animals in the kingdom making the zoo outside you think they'd be pissed when they were like hey you zoo maker there needs to be some arrests going on okay you just this is stealing big gigantic animals not against the law it's against the law here why wouldn't it be against the law and like more fascist bossing say nothing happens though this nothing else it's fine it's just fine so this one's it's enjoyable yeah yeah well that's the thing it's an anthology I I I thought to myself like yeah you just you didn't need to do that you should could just find a different way get those animals out there you got loads of options it's fine so uh if you remember we're told that in the avatar state um ang it's like hyper vulnerable he's he's he's at his most fun he's like a glass cannon he's most powerful but also most vulnerable the implication being that if he was like I guess punched really hard it might kill him instead of just hitting him that sort of thing and that's why the stakes are like at the highest when we find out that it'll destroy the avatar cycle too and so when he's zapped by lightning in his back I think the audience is supposed to feel like holy shit is it all over like that sort of moment and then Katara yeah is able to heal him because she has the Healy juice that was established season was that season one or two I can't I think it's yeah season one it's a special very special healing water she had right which you know if that was the only thing I'd be like okay fine it's kind of like you you got to have your cake and eat it you got to show the audience the worst possible thing ever him getting killed in the avatar state and you got to have him survive you're like all right but that's not my issue Katara let jet die because she has yeah I mean forget that guy she let him die okay he has like super Healy juice that can bring people back when they've apparently like because ag was almost essentially deceased while he's on upper while jet was like I'll be okay and then toff is like he's not going to be okay this thing the something I really liked by the way it was toff could detect he was lying when he said that I thought it was good um yeah Katara is like she's like I don't know if she's tearing up or anything but she's really upset because she does her standard water bending and she's like she I don't think the she's going to be able to save him and I was like uses a super juice and I thought to myself oh super juice probably can't save someone if they've you know received mortal damage that is like oh no it can't that's like it's point is that it does a super heal I was like oh I just thought I just thought she didn't want to I mean yeah I mean she might have liked jet or whatever there were enemies at one time I mean he was doing a hero hero stuff at that point right yeah he was saving though I mean saving but he wasn't really part of the main cast and that stuff is rare so I mean you're on your own jet I still think that's an indictment of her character I've always thought she was the kind to like she would save someone even if she would save Ozai even if like if you if he was like screaming in pain she'd probably help him good old guitar she didn't save jet I think maybe I mean I think at that moment jet was in the middle of battle like there he was helping hold off the fire nation or the enemies or something and there was there wasn't really a way to get over there and heal him without dying in the process that's why he was sacrificing himself as far as I remember that's been a while since the episode long fang long fang that was his name right that's his name yeah something like that as long long for the guys who control the dialy the dialy they were fighting the dialy that's it right right well because he was because of my earth-bending technique I think we're supposed to assume that the dialy at least partially dealt with because what happens is a long fang escapes or at least he's about to and then ang is with jet on the floor and then the rest of our characters come in from the background because they've I'm assuming dealt with the dialy at that point they sort of just arrive they were gone for like 10 minutes I don't they don't show like a scene of them being like we can't get to ang got to fight the dialy we're just supposed to assume that they are um and so you you push through to to they arrive everyone's there and everyone's very because it's it's jet's team as well like is his rag tag group of guys who are like oh no we'll they like will take care of him I think they're tearing up because they know he's uh he's not gonna make it yeah and so it's like a quiet moment and Katara does try the standard healing at it I just it's it is funny the idea that she's got this the cure but she's like I don't want to use this on you like it's it's a really valuable resource buddy it's really rare I mean I don't I don't blame her poof that would be it's yeah that would be great potential though like to have that ethical quadri like someone pointed out to her and she knows that and she has to like sort of reconcile the fact that she chooses whether people live live or die yeah I mean it would have been better if they if she kind of had a a PTSD sort of moment where she goes back to that flashbacks of that I just I think they kind of they might have that juice at that point yeah probably I mean that's a really good chance that and there's a they'll we're gonna have to have to do a lot of stuff and juggle a lot of characters at that point so they might have forgotten and only remembered when Aang got zapped by lightning and again she she loves Aang and she might I actually think that they introduced it specifically because they knew that season two payoff was coming I think that they always intended to put Aang in basically like the worst position but they were like as long as we possible this sort of we've keyed it up we've let people know we've got a thing that can heal people like I can't remember how they describe it but it's just it's super heel juice so I thought of that so I was just like aha and I might have just had a Katara think that too I have this super super heating water and I can't use it unless maybe she because she loves Aang she really cares about Aang she's a very caring person and general but she really loves Aang and she might have her mentality might have been I can't use this unless Aang is in trouble or herself she might like Jett yeah because she might like Jett she loves Aang I mean what are you gonna do sorry Jett off you go yeah you're out of luck yeah look sir the other thing I remember about Katara so do you remember when she uses blood bending to save Aang and Saka and the old lady is like more that was fantastic she's like crying because I think she considers it to be essentially unethical bending oh yeah it was forbidden I think when so what bothered me is when she and Zuko are gonna hunt down the person who killed him um and they have a theory on who it is and she just runs straight into blood bending him right and you could be like what's motivated by the fact that she thinks that person killed him um it's like okay um when they find out when they find out he's not she's like that's not the guy she just like drops him and moves on and I was like damn I don't thought she would be like you know taken aback by the fact that she's just committed to what she considers to be a really horrible act on an you know quote unquote innocent person she's he's not he didn't kill your mother he's just a guy and she seems to have a huge issue with doing it to just people in general and so I was like disappointed she wasn't uh like shocked at herself at anyway she's just like right moving on it's like oh yeah I think I think she was really angry at herself for being that angry I remember correctly she was uh it was just well she has when she got when she got over the end of the episode but at that point in the episode it's like I just think someone's missing there it might maybe might be a little flaw in the writing because they focus so much on her being angry and it was played off as if she was being she was doing the wrong thing I think Aang was like he said something out wrong in lines if don't do this he didn't want Katara to do that of course Zuko being I guess uh yeah Zuko being at that time the Lancer he's taking place as Lancer in the little band he's the opposite of Aang so he's the more aggressor he's he's willing to kill he's willing to do he's willing to do everything that Aang isn't willing to do and so it was Aang was the angel Zuko was a devil in that in that scenario and Katara went with Zuko so it was kind of played off as something she was doing that was wrong and they dress up as ninja and all that good stuff and so there was they're sneaking they're not being honorable anymore they're no longer the honorable heroes once they start doing that so it was played off as this is bad Katara that's why his attention was so high and i like the whole uh like sort of dabbling and then you know but but i think like the the way you sort of do it it's like the true character stays on point as in they they can only go so far before they're like yeah this isn't me and um it affects her so dramatically bloodbending to save her friends and she doesn't do anything horrible to the old lady she just stops her right she doesn't like yeah which is why if i was a friend of hers i'd be like hey it's fine it's fine it's fine look i know it seems horrible but what you just did is like really good so you're all good in the book but she's obviously crying and i found that to be quite like an impactful part of her but then that that scene later what i guess what i would be looking for is that once he drops the guy and realizes it's not the right guy she should like have a moment and then carry on but she's just like moving on and i was just like oh man i should have been like really that was kind of i was going to stream oh and of course despite the fact that i think the bloodbending puppeteering episode is really neat it's probably the scariest one out of this election i suppose oh this kid shows that he could control people's blood yeah no he could control people's blood that's what i mean this if this show is R-rated man whoa i'd be excited to see what they what's what's stopping Katara like bending people's blood out of their eyeballs or something like that well drain all their blood i would say we hope her character is the reason why she wouldn't do that to people because i think there was an instance where they were like sucking those water out of plants and killing them and stuff yeah i wasn't even with the moon so what's i don't think so i don't think so either so what's stopping what would be stopping Katara for example from just sucking all the blood out of somebody because he has a as a blood whip the hope is that uh she wouldn't want to ethically right that's because she's ethically the old lady didn't wouldn't care no the old lady wouldn't fuck she would she would do it uh so about that scene Katara's getting puppeteered until she is able to block the puppeteering and then she's able to apply the puppeteering to the old lady um mechanically i was just confused i was like why is any of this happening this way just like suddenly Katara can block it suddenly the old lady can't block Katara doing it well obviously she must have siphoned it out of her brain you know like Ray did to Kyla Rell obviously but i think i mean Katara is showing a beat she was the only one in her village to be able to water bend she was already sort of a i guess you could say well chronology it was not because they killed yeah but she was the only one left in her village so and she was really obsessed with it she was really obsessed with being able to water bend she was learning on her own so she kind of got the basics i think she got training since then before that part so also not just training but you know trial by fire is the best teacher so she might be able to um gather some sort of idea on how it's done okay so this is how i what is how i bend water how would i bend blood and she i think the old lady even told her how she kind of does it because i think she says that okay the water in your blood i was able to do that now Katara couldn't make the necessary connections and try it on her own i think that's what they're kind of implying there oh i was actually kind of i'm on board with the idea that she could you know like how force users seemingly don't really use the force on each other and the assumption is that if one of them was to use a force push on one of them the other one would like you know force anti put like they'd be able to counter it so they may as well go for lightsaber skill yeah uh and obviously we see that in uh revenge of the sith where they they both try to force push each other and they basically cancel out until they both blow away so like a bloodbender being able to bloodbend you probably can't as soon as you figure out how to counter bloodbend i'm like yeah okay so they cancel each other out but then she manages to do it to the old lady without her being able to start and so i was like oh what was the old lady being bloodbent if katara could block her bloodbending you'd figure she could block it back right oh i think it was because at that point is she the old lady would probably be in shock how are you able to do this using shock as the audience is and uh she wasn't able to block it as as well but i mean yeah she should have been able to block it eventually i mean she's you know once once it's closing out she's happy about it right she's like cackling with like ha ha you've become potentially an ethical like me i was like okay but uh up to the point of it first happening she is like what the fuck how are you doing this i shared her sentiment i was like how is she doing that i think as as the series went along they played katara more and more like a a prodigy of waterbending especially when they went to north north pole i'm not necessarily necessarily agree with that but that's kind of what they did they kind of just kind of out of necessity i mean there might be a fate element there too right because ang bumped into what is essentially the prodigy of waterbending the prodigy of earthbending and um a traitorous fire nation person that couldn't obviously jump over to the side who who is the brother of a prodigy of firebending so yeah they like what it was one more one more distance of connection but there's still a connection to a prodigy there so yeah there's element of fate he himself was a prodigy of airbending uh katara they played her up eventually as a prodigy of waterbending because she caught on pretty quick too and she was able to i think put up a good fight against a north pole master and then tough as a prodigy of earthbending so yeah element of fate that he would come across these very powerful young benders in their in irrespective fields different suko of course because everybody hates suko he just happens to be the brother of firebending prodigy well this next thing i want to show you i'm actually going to try and pull it up but i gotta be careful because this recording is going to try and be on youtube so i need to give a little copyright so i'll do my best to get around it but um so context-wise you remember how um sort of suko and iroh's story in season one is that they are perpetually trying to get to the avatar but unfortunately they are thwarted or otherwise defeated and um ozai considers suko to be a failure and iroh to be a traitor yeah and so we find out as the audience that um they're going to capture them and bring them to the fire nation at the beginning of season two and they tell them hey guys we're gonna be going home how about that and it's like oh my goodness oh yeah they sent a zula they sent a zula to that right yes um yeah okay when we know interestingly the history for a zula is that she was always someone that uh suko didn't trust and so i was you know this scene i'm gonna let me see what this looks like i'm trying to screen share with you a second this is this is gonna look funky for people watching this don't don't don't panic she's really good at lying she's really good at lying um all right so can you can you see this i can see it i can see it all right so it's gonna it's gonna look weird on the people who are listening to this if you if you've got it on visual the reason it looks like that is because i'm trying to screen share with literature devil but uh the added bonuses copyright dismissal like i don't think anything's gonna be picked up but so zula's happy to see them here because she's very close to getting them on board and then they'll be um well prisoners at that point uh and we're we're filled with tension because these guys we actually quite like them got a nice touch there iro iro is not trusting this shit because he's he's pretty small he's on point iro is well he's he's iro so of course he knows everything i'm so glad you decided to come so like we're doing okay do you remember what happens in this scene uh she uh brings him up there and i think iro just uh he takes a stand or something because i don't think they go with her let's let's pretend to be in like a cool little little boardroom right now we're right in this scene so i tell you we need to get these two to realize this is a ruse because we don't want them to be captured by the fination we want them to they're gonna be on the run for this season like all right so ideas first idea i have would be something like iro looking suspicious we'll establish that he would know full well that something's up this is weird because i'm on board with that i think that's good then have maybe a few of these guards without helmets like the one to the left right there you can see his face have them sweating like they're really uncomfortable and you could be like why i can't remember what else that's in but that oh captain america went to soldier they do that in the elevator oh yeah he saw he sees that they're sweating and they're nervous and everything yeah which is a really good giveaway and then i think you should have maybe zuko poke a zula about being so nice he's like why are you why are you being like absurdly and then like like i would if you could you could have dialogue that involves like i thought i would have assumed father would consider everything that happened in the previous season to be a failure and then you could have a zula be like no he's impressed like with how well you've done and then you can have our characters realize like impressed like this is someone's someone's up um i think there's a lot of ways you can write it a lot of good ways because this is a really significant moment this is going to change their path throughout the whole show and i'm just gonna show you what happens here it is heard the princess raise the anchors we're taking the prisoners home you're the part that gets me is his face he's like oh droves what have i done maybe i can show that he just messed up under under a zula's command he's he's dead well of course he's he's the captain like it blows my mind he could possibly make this horrendous of a mistake it's like the whole point is that they don't discover that they're prisoners like he's like we're taking the prisoners home what a strange thing you need to say you know and uh yeah i burst out laughing when i first heard that because i was like of all the ways you could have constructed that scene you had him blunderously state well that's the things right she goes and then he goes oh i'm i'm dead well i had a good life oh fucking i would fire that guy i feel useless i should have gotten a better captain but yeah you know that kind of i don't know what they were thinking with that there's so many ways you can sort of write that scene and they just sort of went that guy just says that i don't know i mean yeah they probably would have been a better way but i mean there's a they at that point they thought they won but there's no way there's no way that they've they couldn't get them so in his mind you know his mind probably is clicked he said okay we got them send the in his mind he probably thought that okay iro as right now iro and zuko are captured they're under our command they are our prisoners please take the prisoners down to the the prison place in the ship and they're like oh they don't know the prisoners yet my oops oh i'd slap him um it's the oops part of it that makes it so funny to me yeah oops the brig yeah do those financial ships have a brig i don't know i think they probably think they will find a nation they must have at least something they capture people constantly so that yeah i'm pretty sure that it was human error that saved their lives was kind of cheap but at least the very least they had iro was very being very suspicious you know listen i think they they would do it so well they were doing so well and then they did that i was like aww you fucks you could have tried a little harder if they didn't have the captain say anything you know iro it was implied that iro pi would have pulled something because he's really awesome he could be to zula easy probably but yeah it was dumb it got lucky because a human error i mean yeah i would have i would have fucking just had i would i would settle for that iro just being too suspicious and he goes no we're not going on that ship and then i don't know someone grabs them and being like yes you are and then you know fight can erupt that way i'm cool with that i just the way they did it was funny the idea the concept the very invention of energy bending is brought to us like moments before it's incredibly important to the plot if i'm not really dissatisfied i mean they built it up i mean they built not the energy bending itself but they built it up as a kind of an alternate hero's journey kind of like not a hero's journey but a development an arc and it's something they were looking for because eng was wrestling with his morals so because he has to there's no way out of this as far as you can tell without killing ozai he has to kill ozai because ozai will not stop he can beat ozai he can face ozai but ozai is way too powerful and even if he defeats him he will not stop he'll continue he's too charismatic he's too in control of everything he's too powerful the firebender just to keep under lock and key he has to die and it seems to be the only place he could the only place he can go and eng goes on this like journey and he's trying to wrestle with himself how am i supposed to do this without killing ozai and uh the uh he actually encounters that big dragon turtle thing on his on his journey and the dragon turtle and parts wisdom I mean yeah it comes out of nowhere but it's again part of that fate where the avatar comes in and goes on a journey searching for for an answer to a question or searching for answer to his morals and searching for an answer to a question is very uh it's kind of essential to the the buddhist philosophy this thinking and pondering and sacrificing I think what if I don't remember this correctly but didn't eng spent a long time on a long journey with almost dying before he encountered the dragon turtle when he encountered the dragon turtle that's when that's when he gets the knowledge on how to spirit bend the lion tail and yeah yeah the lion tail teaches him about energy bending right yeah yeah that's it yeah lion tail she's teaching him energy bending and I'm I forgot what happens right before that but I think eng was on like the brink of death or he had gone on some journey by in isolation um he was like the dragon turtle saved his life well that's another thing that sort of struck me as really odd he's like he's very panicked about taking on ozai because everyone's saying he has to kill ozai and he doesn't want to obviously yeah as part of his philosophy and his his people his culture um and he's sort of he's like half asleep and he wanders off and he swims over to this island that he spots and then he falls asleep on the island and the island moves him out into the middle of like the ocean and so all of his friends are like oh god he's gone what do we do there's something else that's so the whole thing is really odd to me especially when we're that close to the the climax of all of it it's like he wandered off this island showed up what would the island have done if he was he was near a body of water like I don't know maybe I think it's like something about drawing him to the the lion because the lion turtles are supposed to be those gigantic that controllers of the universe or something so they might have they have a might have a spiritual connection to the avatar that seems to be what that might consist of especially since they teach spirit bending so that seems to be like an aspect of fate where they can draw in the avatar they have a connection the avatars wants and the avatars will at any moment and as we saw the avatar is drawn to the lion turtle and lion turtle saves him teaches him how to spirit bend which kind of you say in hope bending right or is that I don't know the same thing spirit and energy because I remember I don't remember it might be I can't remember if they refer to it as spirit bending as well obviously the whichever the one is what takes away is bending yeah yeah the point is it'll like that to me was a huge issue though the the quandary of those two options and then he's provided a third one that like fixes everything for him yeah to me that I mean if I were being objective which I guess I should be at this moment that's kind of cheap I wouldn't like that I don't like that I really like the idea of and wrestling with the idea of killing Ozai and is he going to do it how's he going to get out of it and he's handed a third option to get out of that quandary but I can kind of accept it because it's just it kind of plays into the world and the culture we got a few options I've got a favorite one out of these but I'll I'll go through a couple so what they kind of some of a brutal right so let's say it kills him and then they leave us with a change dang and like the problem with that one as a writer on the staff I'd be like I don't know if we can do this because it's very tough to have a happy ending this is for kids as well so we got to be really careful without messaging like the idea is like sometimes you got to kill a person sometimes okay kids sometimes you just have to commit murder okay sometimes it just has to happen so then another option was he could break his arms and legs like it's brutal but he's alive and he like oof that's still hard to translate for a kids show and I was like so this is my favorite one he neutralizes him like knocks him out whatever puts him in a prison and you get the scene right that happens with like basically all superheroes and villains that do this he's like this place I'll hit you next time well this the whole like this won't hold me forever and then Ang will be like and once you get out I'll be waiting for you yeah I mean that they wouldn't be it wouldn't have been as final as it was because taking his earth bend I mean his fire bending away was pretty final oh yeah he essentially killed him he's a he's pretty useless he's neutralized that was and Ozai in particular like if he took away Iroh's bending ability it probably wouldn't have been that detrimental to his life but Ozai is totally different Ozai is this he's all about power how about being the best the strongest firebender which is why he preferred Azula over Zuko and treated Zuko pretty much like trash like he didn't exist and so yeah taking away his firebending capability is essentially death you killed the man Ozai you killed the spirit and his shattered everything he thought was important life so that's pretty bad and you get why like but uh they didn't want to introduce it any earlier because I think we'd all be like well that's what he's gonna do and the question wouldn't be should I kill him or should I not it would be just energy bending okay and you could I think we would have worked with that as a savior you could have been like you have to have a you have to get him into a position where you can do it and you have to have a big fight and then you know all that stuff but yeah they just sort of just like use that new thing you got yesterday a just win because that's something else we had to fight Ozai still you had to beat him into submission before he could actually yes which is another thing that I take I guess personally issue with so what I did like about the show was several we're talking a lot of episodes they will be like time to train train time we're doing some training in them in and amongst different stories that's good you get I think you may have heard that there's some characters that don't require such things and they can achieve stuff some characters they just don't need training they're just gods and so we'll get go you know um the Godzilla creature at the end of season one it'd be like okay so his training isn't why he can do that it's because he's accessing the the avatar state combining with the koi fish the power spirits that all all that thing um so I got that in my head and I'm like so he's training earth bending air bending fire bending and water bending because he needs them to defeat Ozai okay why wouldn't he just need to get a a grip on the avatar state well what's the relevance of all those other things when the the avatar state is what annihilates Ozai like he you know he has all the elements floating around him he's just this ball of like fuck you energy and just like uh destroys him like what I guess I wanted to see was like he uses the water whip to counter a move from Ozai he um he uses like the the all the different moves that he's sort of been taught over the season and defeats in that way like no avatar state especially because what I liked was they were kind of building this whole like avatar state is what is like a final resort and he doesn't even like it because it's not him anymore it's more a collective of people and so yeah like if he can I think like a climax would have been really awesome to have him almost go into the avatar state pull back and then beat uh Ozai his own way without actually having to use it um but instead he'll be interesting yeah he goes full avatar state and sort of destroys him with the incredible powers that are all been provided from you know thousands of years of history from all these other avatars like yeah that's fine maybe I was just like at this point like man that intro is kind of funny now it's like he's you know his his air banning is great but he needs to trade all the other things to defeat Ozai it's just like does he though I can't it doesn't really you know might be more of a because he can't be an avatar state all the time of course uh because usually the avatar is usually in a not in the avatar state and you have to the the through the show they're always like you've got to get this right when you fight Ozai like this is the the big thing for Ozai is the going to end the war once you figure out a dual and I'm just sitting there like it's more for everything else he needs to learn all this stuff yeah I think maybe since they did that it might be more of a spiritual thing as well as being able to defend yourself outside the avatar state but you know how the the Buddhist monks they pack his martial arts as a form of meditation for a spiritual enlightenment and to discipline their minds and bodies that that might be as part of the reason why the avatar is like that is why they have to train traditionally this is tradition thousands of years of tradition where the the avatar is trained in all four steps elements and they tend to be prodigies in all four elements as they can grasp it really quickly because they have they can already subconsciously access so of thousands and generations of knowledge but then they have the avatar state which it seems to be just raw power and they might be able to manipulate one thing or another but it seems to be that I don't know the I'm not sure if this is actually stated or not or even implied but going through all four elements training all four elements might be a spiritual thing that where they meditate and focus their mind and body the avatar focuses the mind and body so that when they are in the avatar state they can control it a little bit more they have a more it's easier to manipulate the world around them as they are in the avatar state as they battle in the avatar state the fact that he became gods a little like I just feel like once he taps into the avatar state Aang isn't even there anymore it's all of the thousands of avatars together this I think that is implied yeah this it's a it's all of them together that's why I think when he speaks in the avatar state he even has that multi-voice yeah that spooky like you will battle before me sort of voice like okay yeah there's a bineal before Zod sort of thing so but I think it's it might be because the way I took it anyway was for that reason that you you train and your training allows you to tap into the avatar state easier or able to control the control yourself more while you're in the avatar state because he's he's done some pretty brutal and terrible things while in the avatar state even laments over some so that's what I got from the need for training that he needs to train so that he can control himself a little bit better and more and be more effective in the avatar state now just go murdering everybody yeah I I just I didn't really feel it when I was watching that like I didn't I always separate like avatar state hang from hang like the he moves to a different just situation entirely when he's when he's doing that and I just wish that um Ozai was beaten without it I guess the other element of this I don't know how you feel about it but like being pushed back onto a rock that hits him in his spine where he was hit by the lightning reconnects his chakra and allows him to enter the avatar state to me is insane I mean the the thing about he was shocked by lightning which is actually part of the the human body we have a a lot of electrical things in turn of our minds and we we move by electrical shocks and to me the lightning specifically might be and lightning is close to spiritualism in that sense you could kind of take the lightning as being able to disrupt one chakra and so the where it hit it might be a disconnect of where the chakra is and so when you have a when you have a connection when you have when you get hit there it might just be like a tap and reconnects it for a little bit to clarify I don't actually have an issue with that specifically like the idea that he's got a chakra at the bottom of his spine he's hit by lightning near there it separates it and if you were to give it a sharp hit back you could probably reconnect it like a dislocated shoulder I can I can swallow that the part that I can't is like he's in a fight that he's about to lose and he can't access the avatar state to save him and he falls back into a rock that gets it back like I was just like wow fucking hell that was close wouldn't it I think this is the that part was just you you run in the mill protagonist contrivance and I feel like we could have I just prefer the whole like he's trying to not use it you know because he doesn't write to because he knows he'll annihilate Ozai that he doesn't even want to necessarily because all the other avatars are like yeah kill him so once he becomes the avatar in the avatar state he knows that it's out of his hands almost everyone who says kill this kill Ozai what are you doing which makes you wonder how he spared him in the avatar state actually if he is a collective of a thousand mines I think it's because of the training because he was able to by that time he was a master more or less of all the elements and he was he went through a lot of challenges and tribulations and he was able to focus his mind and body a little bit more but enough he was essentially a different person like enough to overcome them yeah I mean he he they might be all avatars and very very skilled avatars but they're still spirits and he's the one who's alive so then again actually dominance his will became stronger Spirium is perfectly logical when you have access to the energy bending thing because this is the thing I didn't I wasn't I'd have to re-watch it but as far as I was aware they only imply that's something that can happen as a result of the energy bending and that when we see it we're like whoa like it's not like the lion turtle explicitly says you can use this to stop people from firebending I don't think he says that so if we knew that was the the thing we probably I think all of us as an audience would be like do that yeah do that do it do that one that's a good option and so him not killing those I was just like well yeah why not right you can just you can just new to him you'd think the avatars would be aware of that possibility if they span all the way back to the origin you know right yeah thanks I think again I think the I wasn't the I'm not sure if the lion turtles were the ones that gave people bending or not but they are in Cora but the thing about Cora is I think we want to not consider Cora right yeah like in the same way there's someone said Star Wars sucks and we're talking about the OT because of the sequels I'd be like we're not that's not we're not no I guess the example kind of would be if you try to justify some kind of mistake in the OT with the sequels you then have to take all of the weight of the sequels and all their shit right so it's just like yeah we'll just we're gonna ignore the whole thing it's fine it's Cora I don't I don't want to watch Cora if the avatar fans consider it to be the TLJ of avatar like why the hell would I go even near it I just heard nothing about bad stuff from Cora I saw the first book it wasn't it wasn't too bad as far as I remember although I don't remember much which might be an indication of how well you remember right she's like mastered three elements bending when she's like one years old she was like yeah when she was like a kid she was already bending all the elements on her own I guess she learned a minute room listened to her podcast or something I don't know but like she's just burst out of a room already slinging fire and lightning and or maybe not lightning yet with fire and earth and water and air I just I've seen all the clips from Eya's videos of Cora when she's taken away from her but they didn't take she she doesn't know how to earband but she figures it out then once she's had the other three taken from her is a huge climax and it's like he didn't just block that one off too like wouldn't he just block them all why would he okay and then she just gets them given back to her I think at the end of the season or whatever they're just like ah there you go she's the avatar why don't just cut off everything you know he's like yeah fucking like I don't even this is like I don't even want to watch Cora I think my brain will explode um so you know do you remember General Zhao season one which oh you mean though was he the one that was he took the season one was the opposite yeah kind of yeah Zuko's opposite he was the one that like took over the killed the quay fish or something killed the he killed the moon yes yes so um he found out about the coming eclipse and what eclipses do to the fine nation when he was in the library in the desert and he burned to all of the information because it reveals the fine nations weakness he doesn't want anyone finding it it's like yep that makes sense um it's surprising that very few firebenders seem to even be like as far as I'm aware it's literally just him and the people he has told which is very few people um you'd think because this is this is going to get complicated right try and stay with me because I even confuse myself when they discover Saka and Ang discover that um the eclipse is the key to taking the fine nations power away they need to find a day when that happens again right they need to so they can prepare for war and um Saka says like we can't check every day that's ridiculous and he's like no no no we need to check from today up to Sozin's comet because that's the only time frame we can use because Sozin's comet is game over so we got to get it in that time zone and so they search those days while the building is filling with sand because Tov is trying to prevent it from going further into the ground but obviously the the owl has opened up I guess windows and stuff to let sand from the outside pour in but it just like it's it this is a nitpick it just stops pouring when they start searching all of the uh the days I was just like this is fine so so they search and they find an eclipse like if you're telling me that these eclipses happen once per 100 years they were lucky as hell to get that one between then and Sozin's comet which in universe time I want to say is a couple months I can't remember exactly but it's it's a small amount of time simultaneously because if you wanted to say to me like oh well you know they get an eclipse every every couple of months it kind of makes sense that they'd find one it's like yeah but then everyone would know right because every couple of months all of the fire nation would be like damn my firebending is gone it wouldn't be that big of a secret no so it wouldn't be that big of a secret at all I know that sounded jumble but probably find my issue there right it's uh try to straighten it out yeah like they go to that little map thing I think it was a map or something the big it was a planetarium twist yeah planetarium that's what was so they can like switch through and see every day what the what the stars and things are doing and you can see the comet coming in yeah that's pretty it's pretty lucky it's pretty lucky for you the other thing that was interesting is they first find out about an eclipse because they they type in whatever they because Saka picks up this half burned parchment and they use the date on the parchment and they search for it and it was the previous whenever the last eclipse was and that's what tips them off they're like ah and so I was just thinking of myself like damn joe whole point was to burn any evidence and you fucking just didn't with that one it's like well fuck it I don't know they're gonna mess stuff there and yeah like because I would have just I'm surprised the owl allowed him to burn down the whole fucking portion of the library that owl was angry at them just for finding stuff out right but with him burning down all of the library that I just picture the albed like you should do that all right dude yeah you think that would that owl would make it would take better care of his stuff oh I think he would eat how he'd be like you piece of shit putting in my books yeah there's there's no one and there's no one in that library was the owl doing off playing Nintendo I love the idea so I was just reading and he's just like you okay you're right yeah what you're reading sitting right next to him like by the fireplace nothing whatever your name is to the guy who knows 10,000 things I'm just reading you have some an excellent collection of porn here okay you don't want to look over here oh sacred library pornography I just remembered as well the only thing I wanted to mention about that final fight with at the end of this season three I thought it was really cool that he used the seismic ability that he'd learned from toff to counter oh yeah ozai but I remember so this was something I was going to break up was a positive that I was like why did he do that because obviously if you're facing someone you won't need that because you can see them moving right and you check the seed he's in the air with his big old powerful elemental stuff ozai is on like a platform and ang lands with his back to ozai like I have no idea why he does that and then ozai goes to do a thing and activates the seismic thing and I was like why like you wanted to give a reason for why he'd use the seismic ability why did you make him turn his back on the ozai at the peak of the like climax of the battle that was just such a weird thing for me but uh I always thought that that part where where ang turned his back on ozai was the was like an active dominance where like I don't care about you you're so insignificant to me that's gonna turn your back I won't turn my back on you you can't hurt I mean I guess it works right because he he locks him down and then energy bends the flumps out of him I was surprised that rock stops him if you remember Azula breaks out of rock handcuffs just by using fire so I'd be surprised the ozai on the day of sozen's comet he didn't even fire breathe like which is I'm pretty sure you can do that I'm pretty sure all of them can do that actually it's like a especially when sozen's comet is in flight because they can also fly right or he can fly actually I'm not sure because to me that fire breathing or you know this stuff bringing out like a dragon with the Iro can do it because Iro's Iro he doesn't care about being undignified but ozai is all about dignity I mean ozai is all about dignity though I mean I could see Azula doing it because she's really practical but ozai isn't really as practical as Azula he's really about all about charisma and showing off which why he became the phoenix king in the first place so I well I can see Azula doing it because he Iro doing it for different reasons on both of their ends I can see I can't really see Ozai doing the fire breathing because that seems to be too brute for him to to unbecoming in that situation all right like you're gonna have to go I mean he might have went on even never have learned like oh my nasty brother does that I'm not gonna learn how to do that well yeah I was still surprised he didn't try and break out I guess he might have been really defeated I mean he might have been so because his his the whole thing with ozai is his ego his huge ego and he probably I mean I know I keep saying probably but this seems to be fitting with his character that I can't believe I just got defeated I thought I could beat the avatar and it seemed villains fall into this there's a trope for it where they become I think radigan from that one mouse detective one where he goes from elegant man to rat to this disheveled monstrous thing because he's being defeated dude he's he's scary at the end of that film oh yeah I remember that's happened to villains a lot as me too it was a fantastic fantastic movie I like it I like a lot I especially like the fact that he lives underneath Sherlock Holmes' house but the villains seem to do that it's been a regular thing that villains tend to go through and become a trope and especially with specifically with villains who are egotistical or put themselves on a higher pedestal than everyone else and those eyes that to the tea so I could and you could see him becoming more and more frustrated as the fight goes on because he can't just instantly incinerate the avatar like he thought he was going to be able to the power of Sozen's comet and he's he's so egotistical which is and his ego destroys his relationship with Azula Azula basically goes mad because now he has a kind of cast her aside so he can become a phoenix king leaving her holding an empty crown and so he his ego was destroying every single relationship he's ever held dear even to the to even to Azula who worshiped the man and so his ego was so immense that he became so frustrated and his he became sloppy as the battle between him and the avatar went on and he could not defeat the avatar and then by the time he's wearing those cuffs I could see his spirit being totally shattered and in his mind saying like how did this happen this this could be right and that his shock left us so long and with giving enough time to spirit bend him which will kill his ego I mean I'm pretty sure I want to commit suicide that the ego will be dead after that yes yeah yeah so I could that's that's how I saw why he didn't do that because of course if he was in his right mind and all powerful and they just maybe they just sort of snuck in with Toph and she just was zapped some some cuffs on him at his height of his power he just no let's break these easily I can defeat anybody but at that point specifically he was defeated and his ego was shattered and that is why I think he kind of held those cuffs in place he didn't really do anything he couldn't fight back because his spirit was gone metaphorically and then his spirit was literally gone or bent soon after did you remember when opera is captured yes he was captured by uh wasn't captured by Zuko or somebody it was like a it's like a fine Asian circus thing um yeah yes and so the problem with opera is he's like I'm gonna tame you because you're you're a crazy dude and every time he tries to like prevent opera from getting food opera finds like this like too he like it bends food toward him and this kid gave him something to eat as well and so um and then we move on to like this scene where it's clear that uh the guy is going to use opera as like an attraction and so the first confusion I had when I was watching this was like oh my god he's got like chains on his ankles I guess and I was like oh that must prevent him from flying because obviously if he could fly just escape but then I realized that um his act requires him to fly through fire hoops and I was like oh so why doesn't he just escape um again I hope I don't get flag of a copyright with this one so the the thing is like oh maybe it's that dude with the fire whip and it's like well I mean opera could just fly out right now but instead he's like sort of playing along for a moment then he gets singed and he's like ow that hurts and then this happens I love that he slaps it down it just looks so funny um for those who can't see it opera hits a hoop and the hoop just bogs the uh the dude right on the head and yeah so I'm just confused like opera just fly away right and then I was thinking to myself like oh there's gonna be a reason why he can't I guess um and he ends up like just booting this dude check this out opera's awesome opera is awesome um and then he just flies out and I was like oh what an awful he doesn't need to be here anymore what I just it was like how stupid does that Circus soda have to be I don't know so like I thought that was done and then you move on and opera's like obviously hungry injured he's like splintered by this tired on the road uh but he had always been taking care of him I no no no um I like I I think this stuff is pretty good and he's like he's pretty ruined at this point he hides in like this little place check this bit out right I think he's found by the kiyoshi people right well this is so these are these are some issues we're coming to you right so first of all I find this hilarious she picks this off a bush and she's like huh where'd this come from and look look at this shot now how didn't you see that seems more significant than the other thing we're just like okay so they uh they follow the trail naturally and they get up to opera and it's like good god lucky that someone who knows you very well happened upon you in this this area someone who cares about you to the point that they they deep they they pluck those things out of him they feed him they rest him up and he's back to full health and I was just like wow and I'm fucking Azula and the two girls just show up because apparently they were keeping an eye on the fear and they saw some but they just went to this place I was blowed away I was just like what I'm just like why is everyone just showing up but you can't just imagine that the people from who live on an island thousands of miles away would just up here first they were they they were looking for that fear and they they just saw it and they were like alright if if it were people who you know they were right first before the people who were actually chasing them whose job is it is to chase them down yeah I don't know I don't forget the context of that of that little scene but but those sorts of things like I kind of agree it's small but like in my experience there was this there's lots in several episodes that are they drive me down right because like I'm constantly trying to get invested and I'm just like but how did oh but why really oh wow that sort of experience um I guess death by a thousand cuts probably how I would describe it and some of these may not be very accurate maybe I've fucked up some of these like I said it's very possible it's just that um a lot of it seems so strange to me I think at that scene Kyoshi the Kyoshi Warriors were I mean they're they're already friends with the avatar from or season one but I think they were actually looking for the avatar to like to protect them or something I don't remember that because that's specifically but I think they were actively looking for Aang also is to have an stumble upon app up well like because they found his fur anger in very different areas of that point because Oppa's been missing for a couple of days of that I think yeah and he's obviously been put into the circus and he was just sort of flying um and yeah obviously they the the show tries to justify they stumbled across his fur that's what led them to him which is more believable than simply bumping into him but it's not like he was that far away he was kind of this right there but yeah it's an I don't think even fate covers that but still I think it's one of one of those um your protagonist contrivances he's just been so much that his karma is bound to turn I mean that's what we're expecting to see that Oppa has been whipped he's been tortured he's been put into the circus and he managed to escape managed to fight his way free and then he just fell into an even worse predicament where he's on his own he has to steal food he has he's just fighting off animals and he's being because until that point he's kind of a spoiled sorry to say Oppa he's kind of been spoiled to that point he's been taken care of by by by Aang and the gang they've been brushing him they've been you know taking care of them feeding him you know all Oppa has to do is fly fly him around and the the gang just takes care of him but that point he doesn't have the gang he has to fend for himself after all this time because he was frozen in there too he's frozen in the ice too he hasn't he hasn't been able have he hasn't have to take care of himself because who knows I don't think he was he I don't think he had to fend for himself either when he was at this when he was at the air temple with Aang so this is really the first time these had to he's been in this situation and so we see him suffer and go through all sorts of mishaps and we're just wanting to see him stop suffering and finally at the end we get to see his his luck sort of turn his karma sort of turn and it's kind of a a cycle and it's and if it's in and of itself so it's acceptable to me because it's kind of a the cycle of the story of the episode Oppa suffers Oppa's in a terrible position he suffers and suffers and suffers and so finally he's able to survive on his own volition long enough that he he's rewarded with a turn of the fates turn of the karma I yeah I'm on I'm totally on board with that I would just want to make it more wasn't affect stuff or just to spend a chunk of time trying to figure out how do we get it all to sort of line up with just other events that are happening you know let's get a reason to why maybe they are looking for oppa you know the the kiyoshi warriors we can you know this we may have to make some structural changes but I would totally be on board with that be like yeah let's go let's do because I like oppa he's my I think he's my second favorite character behind Iroh I like oppa too Iroh is fantastic I love Iroh is awesome in everything he's in until after after mako dies not so much they kind of brush him off to the side but when mako's alive Iroh is fantastic he's always cheerful he's always has his plan up his sleeve he is he's a trickster slash mentor character oh yeah he's like he's like on the good guy's team and you sort of sit there wondering he's like why is this guy with the fire bed does he like oh well it was this legendary generally find out he's this legendary general who's like the most hardcore general has ever lived but now is this old man who just kind of ah who cares is let's sit around enjoy my tea and then if anyone wants to mess with me I'll just destroy everything they love that's it this one's a bit if you remember how Kitarra's origin story if you will so someone found out that they were because the southern tribe has any waterbenders captured slash killed let's just say killed because they get killed on site apparently and but another one is born right or at least there is one there that's that's all apparently an informant told the Fire Nation this alone there is a there is a waterbender in the southern tribe I'm like okay so they go there and there's like this big fight going on but um we find out that it is Kitarra is the one that's actually able to waterbend but Kitarra's mother claims to be the waterbender and she's like take me away and the guy's like nope we're gonna kill you and um she obviously dies for her I thought it was really strange right because the Fire Nation are in a position where they want to essentially eradicate the other benders at least that's not my assumption because the next bend is gonna be the next avatar will be a water one assuming the air ones dead which I think they assume um so they're wiping out the waterbenders which makes sense to me uh they're wiping out the people in the southern tribe whenever a waterbender rises or is heard about they're like kill it kill it kill it part that blows my mind is that like if we turned up let's say me and you were the uh the grand Fire Nation inquisitor people and we're gonna kill that waterbender we show up and this person just says I am totally the waterbender you have to kill me I'd be like aha so uh do me a favor and just waterbend a little bit just so I can confirm it otherwise I'll kill your whole village because I've been sent to kill one there's one here I'm not going to let someone take a bullet here Spartacus style we're just going to get the one all right and it's a very definitive system you cannot fake waterbending and funnily enough I think that um we could have had it be that way like Katara tries to maybe help her mother by waterbending but um she's a little bit maybe out of sight or to a degree and like the mother takes credit for the bending itself like she does the movement she's like I'm the one who's bending the whole time it's like and then um the guy you know believes it is here and kills her the crazy part to me was just that she just says I'm I'm the waterbender kill me and he does and they leave when you'd think the Fire Nation would be desperately invested in making sure they eradicate any and all waterbenders because it could be the Avatar okay should be back hopefully I could stay alive long enough to finish this out sorry about that I have no idea what's wrong with I had no idea why does that I've done so many things to try to fix that but this continues it stays with me I have no idea why mm-hmm well I can um I can cut all of the the gaps out so it'll be fine fantastic people already they're already used to that by now these things my voice streamed I that happens at least once or twice every stream so did you what was the last thing you hit me say see um I heard you talking about how it was um see what was it oh yeah the waterbending why they probably killed Katara's mother because she said that she was a waterbender when Katara was a waterbender yeah so like I'll just because I'll I'll go over it again just to make sure because like there's a lot of parameters to it right so like they wipe out the air nomads which I don't know how they do considering nomads like pretty pretty difficult to wipe out all of them but they apparently stuck to the temples whatever fine well so they wiped them out out of desperation of making sure the avatar won't destroy them sort of thing and then so like they want to keep that up they're like the water is going to be next because I think I think any reasonable person in that universe would assume Ang died or whoever the bender was died and so it'd be like it's going to be waterbender next and so apparently they've been wiping them out wherever they find them because they can't breach the northern pole but they can the southern one kindly they've decided not to kill everybody in the southern pole only the waterbenders it's like wow all right I'm surprised it's the fire nation you know you'd think they just that's what I thought you were going well how come they just didn't kill everybody they killed most of them it's only like a what if we like yeah it's it almost seems mean like just being like yeah yeah we'll leave some of you so you're the fire nation right and you get told by an informant of some kind there is confirmed a waterbender in the southern tribe and it's like oh my goodness so they send us two out to go and kill them or whoever or whoever and so we we turn up and there's like this group of them we're like all right who's the waterbender and just some person steps forward and goes it's totally me wouldn't you be like uh-huh do you want to prove it that they do the thing or that they wiggle their arms nothing happens they're like sorry I'm off my game today it's like no no no prove it it tells me I'm tells me that the general who did that was very very lazy they said all right you say that you're the waterbender fine we'll just kill you and just leave it we'll just tell everybody we definitely did it sir are we going to wipe up the rest of the southern water tribe just to make sure we could that's a whole thing that's what I would expect Ozai to do because they're in a position where they're just going to keep on breeding as you do in the little tribe and it's genetic right and it can skip generations meaning that you eventually you're going to pop up some waterbenders there so fuck it wipe them out just wipe them out we wipe out people all the time we wiped out the most peaceful people of this universe so let's just wipe them out but okay I have to hear them those people people in the world they they killed them also yeah I think it's because it was happened so recently there's not really a defense but it's more like something that probably would have happened if this scenario were existing in the real world or whatever there's probably like at that time the fire nation already conquers much of the world the southern water tribe is basically nothing they killed all their men and all of a sudden we presumed it of course it's the danger of the avatar rising though isn't it yeah but it didn't it said okay we found one waterbender down there this send somebody go kill it and then then the guy goes it's probably like a low ranking job like they said probably sent that the worst general they could and remember the general they sent he's now living with his mom and he was he was he was so as far I'd have to check but I thought he was like the leader of that particular faction or something that was the guy who did it he was because they find out later that there's a different leader now and that's why they nearly mistakenly punish the wrong guy but he's not like low rank as far as I know yeah I mean they probably put someone who he probably he could have been higher rank because you know there was a whole thing about I'm just going to we have too many sons I was going to put them somewhere where he's pretty high ranking where he won't cause any trouble because he could have been that sort of scenario I don't know they don't tell us anything about that and we don't tell us a reason why they didn't kill all the the entire southern water tribe which they usually could have soccer is the only one left that can really could defend anybody's is useless at the beginning they don't really tell us any of that so the only presumption I could take is that the guy was this really lazy or kind of like incompetent or just he just want to get on with his day because we just want to get done and get back because the what the southern water tribe it's it's all cold it's not it's not very comfortable so I just want to get back back home where they get my rewards and everything yeah uh I something I forgot to bring up earlier I do this a lot and I'm sorry about that um you know how they they get to the planetarium thing in that library like a a fox spirit is just like hey over here I'd like I get it spirits want to help about and stuff but like holy shit it really feels like a writing tool where it's like I don't know how they get there the fucking spirit shows them like okay unfortunately I mean it I think this was an instance of we need to do we need to get them some there somehow what what can we use well we were established that Aang is the bridge between the mortal realm and the spiritual realm let's have a you know I have a spot fox spirit lead the way all right sounds good just would have had a door that requires like you know the whole they do it a couple of times where it's like you know you need to be a bender of sit and whatever's maybe because it's like you know if bend at that point maybe make it some kind of like all elements and they have to find a way like a puzzling way to get it open and it would explain why Zhao couldn't get in there you know yeah but the a door is not nearly as cute as a fox spirit true it's very true you it was kind of weird that episode but they they watched the play I was like how did the play know all of the things they seem to have very specific information that one you you gotta turn your brain off for that one because I think it's implied that that they since they've traveled so many so so many places and they've done so many things along their travels they got all the information from hearsay and secondhand sources which way they kind of piece things together which I still doesn't explain how they do about jet and how he died and how they they even mentioned that that was actually not confirmed but as explained how they got like tough wrong and how everything is not spot on but hilariously a little bit off but that's that's why I kind of gathered that they went to the the play and they saw that and they put the play together based on stories and tales and hearsay that they've heard which is kind of how plays used to be put together a little bit I like the theory that it's the cabbage man he's been giving all the information as he does always always there I really want the cabbage man to be someone like other than the cabbage man like he's a secret agent or something because he's everywhere some one day he's a cabbage Ben trying to he has a cabbage better well because one day he's and he's trying to get into bossing say and then they kick him out and dump his cabbages and next day he's in oh no omashu omashu so he's trying to get to omashu they dump his cabbages over the side as they get out of here and the next day he's in omashu just in time for eng to dump all his cabbages again and he's everywhere he's everywhere to go so it seems like it'd be really interesting if he was someone else besides just just a cabbage peddler so this one this one's again kind of hard for me to frame so scenario you've got you're a team of people who don't want the king to find out that there's a war going on this team are now aware that this this team of kids have been into their underground facility and so and they're probably going to tell the king about it so and this is when I was watching it I was like well they're their ith benders they're just going to fill in that whole area surely and they do and I was like hey nice and then one of the characters is like what about the drill and I was like what it was like yeah what about the drill let's go get the if they with the drills there that it's proof that the war is happening and the drill is still there and I was like whoa so to really get my point across I was I saw the drill and I was like oh my god it's been weeks and they didn't remove the fire nation symbol for one put a roof on top of the they put walls around it they didn't put a roof on it so you could just see it from the castle walls they didn't fill the space with earth right you could just do that quickly like you could do that in a half hour if you knew that you know it's a danger which they do because they took the precaution of fucking like filling in their entire holding facility and their brainwashing facility um and then finally why didn't you just bury the drill you can actually build an area around it once it's buried to you know do whatever you want like because there's a theory like oh well they were they were scavenging it and it's like yeah yeah yeah push it down build a area and then go go to town but if they did that how would they know how would they prove there's a war going on because that was the thing I was like oh they're gonna have to use like some kind of special like a clever way of discovering the truth I was like oh my god the drill's today oh my god and then the dude is like yeah we imported it from the fire nation I was like what do you mean why would you import a drill and drill your own it's still in as well so I thought like oh my god is it still poking into the like main building with oh my god and I was just like you're so incompetent and obviously that changes a lot of the storyline once they find that and I was just blown away by it guys bury it I mean they in that scenario they've already had like total domination that propaganda everything inside the city even the king is inside that you know they don't want to believe that the war is going on I think they even mentioned a war and people are like that's that's dumb oh yeah the the citizens are either brainwashed or terrified about mentioning anything to do with the war yeah and if anyone does catch on yeah they've done a fantastic job of nailing it except for that one piece of information probably should have so under these circumstances I think some people don't even some people even know that some people like disappear if they defy the oh for sure yeah obviously the person they need to not find out anything is the king and they're they're quite cleverly like yeah king go and look at anything you want and obviously the citizens are going to be like ooh like they're not going to say anything and yeah you know but if they show them the holding facility or whatever it is then that'll the jig is up but they filled it in it's like ah that wouldn't be probably they forgot all the drill if we're trying to convince that the if we're trying to convince the earth king there's no war going on they're like yeah I mean we we got it from the fire nation we're trying to I don't know why I mean he I'm pretty sure that longfang knows the king well enough that he's really kind of he doesn't care he's kind of dumb is why he was able to take control in the first place so yeah king he's your here's the excuse you need to have in order to get in your mind like this is not going there's nothing's happening and you're like oh you just got to drill from fire nation all right it's fine I don't care good to go I just don't need to delve into that because obviously that's his plan foiled at that point I was just like dude one one earth bender just drop him down there put that hand on the ground it's at the very least it gives you more time like just just I don't know they left the fire nation symbol on it at the very least scrub that off I'll put a sticker on it you know the smiley face it'll be fine I mean long things also on the on the the same terms as Ozai he's very egotistical he he knows he controls the city and when you as egotistical as that sometimes you can just let something like that slide he's like okay well everyone I mean and when your secret police sometimes it's if something is that overt when sticking through the walls is drilling through the walls of your city then it's very not to hide it because it looks more suspicious if you hide it like okay there's a big gigantic mound where this drill was still better than a drill though right yeah a little bit on the drill but you could say to me the best thing he did he could do was the best thing he was what he did if he knows all the ins and outs because you say it's given excuse and explanation as to why this is here rather than try to hide it because they could hide the facility that's no problem they could kill it up when they need to with that that they did the drill however is a little harder to hide a little bit more noticeable especially from I think this isn't the thing that I would let's say the drill turned up the previous episode I think I'd be okay with it but this thing's been there since like the half season yeah guys I mean if I were a long thing I would I would find out a way how to excuse it how to explain it rather than to hide I mean you have a fair of a long thing I would explain it because it's easier they're the masters of spinning story in propaganda probably do both as far as a job I'd be like let's hide it and generate a reason for why we have it in an underground facility let's say we're actually working on a war drill in case you know anything should go wrong it would be imported from the fire nation I mean I wouldn't even I would just get rid of the symbol I'd be like no this is ours it's like really like hmm I think that could work to his advantage I mean they say because the Eng in the gang or whatever they're saying that we were at war with the fire nation what's this fire nation drill doing here then huh people are bossing same that the dial is true you could actually spin it that way he could be like it was a collaboration project we have a drill but maybe move it from being punctured into your own building stupid ass they built walls around it that's the part that blows my mind it's like so you did try to hide it but you did the worst possible job they're putting a blanket over it and I would have better actually it's fine it's fine that's like oh whatever it's covered up enough okay I don't get paid for this I get paid to I get paid to spin propaganda and cool wear this cool uniform I don't get paid to hide gigantic drills that's someone that's other people's work so something that didn't quite sit well with me was Zuko at the beginning of season two is told that all is forgiven and you can come home and sit by his father's side like that's the thing that you really want and of course Azula's betrayal is revealed by that very and very useful captain take the prisoners away prisoners wait a minute at Azula says like you're a failure the only way you're ever returning home is in a prison cell or something like that and obviously Zuko's like shaking in that scene and I really like it because like that's probably the most earth shattering news you could ever experience the whole goal of redemption has just been spat out in the sense that you can't actually redeem yourself now you're fucked and to the point especially to Zuko yeah and you also have to consider that she um she's just dramatically betrayed him under their father's orders which is very intense and then she actually goes for the kill shot on him she avatacadabra's him but uh uh Iroh stops it yeah that's gonna be an intense so your sister was about to kill you yeah because obviously he doesn't know how to deal with lightning at that point in the story so he'd be dead yeah he would have been so like I like all that apart from the stupid captain but then at the end of season two she's like if you help me beat the avatar you can totally come home and he's like ooh and then he eventually takes her up in the offer and I was like why would you like this woman and you have Iroh the back of being like he says that I have a problem with the dialogue in the show he says uh it is time for you to choose good oh like oh so thuds with like you know you wouldn't quite argue it like that typically I don't think as a character instead of just being so simplistic it's like be a good and he's like okay okay um I suppose my issue is just the I get it like what that what is being gone for here it's the the everything he wants since the beginning but now he's questioning all of that because uh that's how far he's come they make that very explicit in a lot of his dialogue do you remember the one where he says um why am I so bad at being good I think so yeah yeah it's a lot he tries to help people out and every time he helps people out it ends up worse I think he's looking at a family portrait in one episode and he's like I have everything I want but it's not what I really want and like for me I'm just like oh they really don't let me uh I feel like it's the kind of stuff we should be saying if you know what I mean not the characters besides the point the I find it almost an impossibility that he would in any way trust Azula because they've they fight um during season two and obviously that beginning of season two she's like lying to him all the time she's horrible she tried to kill him and then he's like almost making friends and then he's presented if you kill the avatar with me you'll be you'll be accepted and I'm just like why would you ever trust her because he wants to he wants to so bad that's a pretty interesting flaw that people tend to have especially with characters who want something so badly that he wants to even though he might want to it seems that he wants something else now they might he might not be he might be going away from desiring what he's wanted and desired for instance the beginning of the episode from episode one of season one uh he's presented with here's everything he wanted here's everything he ever wanted this uh come with me I'll convince you know it's really easy to make the connections but like that happened in the beginning of season two as well yeah I mean it's he's uh he even has to say that Azula always lies he has to have a mantra for himself that Azula always lies because Azula is a powerful like a really really talented liar it's really hard to see it's really hard to tell when she lies even though if you tell yourself that she's always lying it's really hard not to believe her sometimes especially when you can see a route to which she would actually be if you even you don't trust her there is a route where you can trust her even like it's just a route we can see she's a talented liar of her reputation is liar yeah she is a good I mean it's you can even if you know she's lying she says things with such confidence and such poise that it's really difficult to I mean this is a scientific thing people really even if you know someone is lying it's really hard not to listen to them as how cult leaders work actually so this is almost a cult leader that aspect but she has that charisma she has that poise and confidence that's really difficult for Zuko to say no to that especially if he can kind of see how she can bring him back into the fold and get him whatever he wanted back and he still kind of sees that sees himself going back to the way things were going back into the family fold and then even though he doesn't he still thinks that yeah maybe this is not exactly what I want he hasn't made his mind up yet like okay maybe it's not what I wanted but now that's back on the table again I want it again and I can I want to do what it takes to get that back my issue is just him believing it's even on the table as well and my my quick fix because I think this works but like you could probably make it better I guess would be that she gives him the offer he refuses because he doesn't trust her and then she hands him a letter from the father and it's got like his seal unbroken or something like that oh yeah he opens it up oh yeah gives him the offer directly from his dad I feel like that wouldn't nail it I mean it would change things but it would it would change things to it would show a different aspect of Zuko showed that he was different in his mental state so then oh no I'm not going to believe you Azula you're a liar and that's the thing okay here's the paper good progress that he's been so far away from them for so long he's now gone to the point where he will not believe her ever oh yeah but he gets like he's like almost like he's trumping her but then she trumps him with the with the letter this theoretical letter I feel like that would be pretty effective I think in the how it's done originally it shows a more tragic portion to Zuko's desperation because he's Zuko is he's emotional but he's very he keeps things he's very stoic at the same time he keeps his emotions inside he doesn't express things as freely so we get to see a new portion a new aspect of his emotional instability and his desperation when he instantly believes Zula who has lied to him since childhood who has betrayed him and tried to kill him on multiple occasions and it shows us the audience how desperate he is how absolutely desperate and and the hungry he is to return to life as the way it was and to get his country back get his role back to get his father back his family his everything and I think that's the difference between because if he had a letter it wouldn't be it would yeah I might be able to fix it but it wouldn't be as it wouldn't show us his desperation but on the other hand I would have him like fucking shaking while he's reading it yeah yeah because that's that's it there's the offer you gotta gonna do it are you gonna not do it and then you can keep Ira with the whole you know don't do it it's a good point personally I like the way it was originally because it shows his desperation shows a little more tragic element to Zuko's character at that point that's why I like that's why I like it personally I thought it was really funny that after Zuko frees upper he goes into like a coma and it's because Ira says his body like being an evil but hard-haddle the Goodman decision he made now I'm not gonna I'm not trying to speak about psychology and how it can affect you physically right I'm not saying it's an impossibility I'm strictly talking about the way that I've sort of accepted all this information so he's like incredibly stressed because he's done a thing that is just not his position to be doing typically and so he's just like ah but um I would have thought that if you're like supposed to be going for a bad guy finally choosing to do something good would give you that that sense of like I I had like I nailed it I did a good thing this feels great that's sort of like sort of turning but let's say okay fine it stresses him out enough that he goes into this like state the thing for me is like I really think we should have had that happen after the scene we sort of looked at the beginning of season 2 after his family member tries to kill him and he was baited in by his dad to go to prison he's like shaking when he fights series is like exasperated and obviously he was about to be beaten I feel like going into some form of a stress coma after that experience would not only be more suitable but um it could be a very physical representation of like the uh a metamorphosis like you know a caterpillar into butterfly sort of thing um yeah while doing it after he frees upper strange to me and I feel like they did it to to put him on the shelf for an episode because it's not until the end and that he's fixed back up to normal like they didn't know what they wanted to do with him What was the context for him saving Appa? Was it just out of kindness? I think he stumbles across Appa and releases him because I guess it was That's the right thing to do? Yeah I think he's hoping that it'll go back to Aang because that's that's what I remember is that he just freed Appa big out of kindness because he's he's changed as a character and uh since that he's kind of it takes out Zuko a long time to get to this point where he's not this uh going from it's quite a quote evil side which I think is represented by this bald and ponytail look but I think uh it's because of intention that's the difference here what was the other reference he used well one from um what it would it would have been better if he went to the coma before what was it what was it? Oh uh uh with the the family trying to cheat like uh trick him into going into prison because he's a failure and obviously the attempted murder on him as well and uh what what good did he do there what was the good deed he did? Oh no I was trying to highlight uh if this was stress related oh okay stress related okay okay I think in that instance where you said that he will he fell into this coma because he did a good deed I think it's uh about intention because it's it's the same it's a change of mindset because in the mindset in season one and I think most of season of at least a good portion he's in season two he is a firebender he is a fire nation soldier he's the prince of the fire nation and he's been raised to fight the fire nation's enemies and to see them as lesser than he is because that's that's how they treat everybody and then he's going through this journey that changes his character his heart and his mind and he sees that what he has been doing is somewhat wrong on the unethical side of the spectrum so he's when he does something for once on his own out of the goodness of his heart just to help someone out well not out of not for honor not for uh prestige not to get back to his family then that is a huge psychological difference it's a disconnect from what he was once was the prince of the fire nation and it's the intention of doing something good as opposed to just suffering one psychological blow after another because he's been through that all his whole life this is actually something positive in his life something new something exhausting because his body and his mind is not prepared for that and it's more of a spiritual thing I think because spiritual the spiritual element of things is a heavy part of the avatar universe they they've shown that so that's what I think it's more of intention and a difference of a motivation I think mechanically it's sound I just I was thrown off by it I was just like I would have thought you'd even be comfortable like you like the drama for him would be like that felt good it shouldn't you know and then Iro is like hey hey that's good stuff man I was just saying so yeah I don't know it's just a just a thought Iro knows best he's not bad oh yeah so you remember Azula turns up with her to gal pals and they're dressed in the dialy outfit is it that no wait the amashu the kiyoshi kiyoshi that's the one yeah the they are so that those warriors are trusted and of course he's like oh you guys can help us and they're like more ha ha ha the like first thing the earth king tells them or I guess it's the earth king he's like hey they're coming up with this great plan to attack the fire they should during a solar eclipse where they're at they're weakest I'd like Azula just lifts him in the head like oh I was like oh jeez like because he's a bubbling fool character I was just like oh the earth king is an idiot yeah um that's that's like you know like I'll let him have that the part that gets me is that um Saka meets them and he's like clearly aware because he's obviously current on off again on again girlfriend is Yoshi warrior he sees their outfits and he manages to not conclude in any way shape or form that they would have stolen it from them meaning they're compromised meaning Suki's potentially compromised meaning their whole plan for the eclipse is compromised because she knew it as well he doesn't put those dots together whatsoever it blows my mind they didn't have a line from to comment on the fact is like oh do you guys know Suki you don't even have that you just he's just like oh hey and I was just like wow what's going on have a good day of course because that compromises the whole black sun episode and it's just like yee yeah it's kind of strange I don't know I don't know about that one but uh what actually I don't know the context exactly what does he just say hello when they just kind of passing the street yeah I uh I would get you like the screenshot of him seeing the like all he needs to do is see them for me to be like oh damn you should probably content right now but he's uh he's very casual and it's never mentioned and I'm assuming it's not mentioned because they need to be surprised that the Fire Nation have prepared for them on the black sun episode okay where we going okay yeah so Azula finds out that a faction of people in the earth capital are against the earth king and so naturally she's like let's maybe work with those guys so her plan is I'm going to get captured and then I'm going to meet with their leader and I was just like watching them like whoa like that's super risky why can't you just instead be like hey earth king can I speak to your prisoners to try and find out what their plans are for blah blah blah you know she's a kiyoshi warrior you can trust her like instead her plan and I was just like man what if like what if you were just imprisoned indefinitely because she's captured by the Dai Li yeah and the Dai Li bringing it to their leader and then she manages to broke her deal with the leader and I was just like dude careful like all kinds of things could have happened as a result of that I mean Azula is characterized as she's kind of like Ozai she's very egotistical she's very charismatic and confident and so her plan was to just get captured and be taken to the to the leader of the people and they took her to like a normal prison first off she would have manipulated people into taking her over there somehow that's what she does if she doesn't have to fight if she doesn't need to fight she doesn't need to then she won't fight she'll just manipulate people with her words she's sharp with her mind and she's very she's like a social butterfly and wait what she needs to be she's not really good and personal experiences like unless it has something to do with business she's good at it something to do with manipulating people she's good at it because she's I think she's depicted more of like a sociopath sort of like a Jeffrey Dahmer type who just cares about her father and then but she I'm pretty sure she can't she wouldn't with a plan with if she had that sort of confidence she usually does I just would have thought like considering a character she would she would probably first of all just walk into the place that he's captured she should be like fuck it I can go here who's gonna stop me I mean I think she liked it better as a play of dominance she tends to do that sometimes that's what I mean wouldn't that be the play of dominance well I mean she takes in she's taken in as a prisoner and they think she they have her on the ropes they got her they have her helpless and then she despite her helpless as opposed to helplessness still takes over everything so manipulates him into becoming one of her pawns and I like the I like that line where she goes where he goes um you beat me on my own game and she says you're not gonna you're never even a player or poor long thing I love that part that was fantastic because she's somehow ousted the loyalty of the dialy because she was so much stronger a leader than he was no yeah I mean she convinces them all to join her cause or she's I mean she's more powerful than him so why not but I would follow Azula I liked Azula until she kind of broke in the last few episodes it just went insane so yeah the in the first episode of season three Ang like has a bit of a crisis and um rest of golf on his own and he almost like drowns in the ocean cause he can't quite get through it and then he's given like a pep talk by Roku and the the moon spirit and like immediately after he goes full like water bending pro tsunami mode where he's just like traveling through the ocean really fast like fucking Aquaman stuff and I was just like how did you did you not know you could do this before I was like okay there's a some of these I think it's sometimes they develop these new powers or these new techniques because they're in an in a situation where they need to get out of a situation right they they uh they're in this new place where if I don't get out of this if I don't think of something new I'm gonna die so to me this is after they do tend to do pull these sorts of things after they've been trained after they had some technique and some some uh you know they had some lessons or they've learned new things along the way so when they pull out something like this it's more like okay I want to use what I know that you're using knowledge kind of like learning uh martial arts I'm gonna use this technique that I've learned put this together and maybe this will work and so when they put out new moves like that if they've already trained and learned new techniques by that point then to me it's acceptable especially since as I said Aang isn't as a prodigy in all forms and he's his best friends are all prodigies thanks thanks to fate or whatever so I mean to me it seems to be like a technique he's cobbled together out of other techniques I mean I'm fine with that sort of interpretational viewing I just for me watching I was just like oh damn you can do that yeah I understand yes so that's that's it seems to be what the one of the beauty the beautiful things in Avatar is that it does so many things that would traditionally see be seen as horrific or wrong and according to writing like there's already a chosen one trope which is absolutely horrific I would suggest ever using a chosen one trope at all because it just dilutes everything but they use it very well because they they add it to the world as a piece of essential cornerstone foundational lore and it's the so Avatar The Last Airburner is the one one of the few franchises that would say yeah chosen one aspect where to go did it right they did correctly all right so this one this one's gonna be weird so Team Avatar have provided a guide in Basingsay called Judy and when she fails to prevent them from getting to the the upper ring party she's taken to the lake for brainwashing I guess and she's replaced with another guide for them who claims to be the literal same person and they're like no you're not she's like yes I am but they're like oh it's like nice and eerie and creepy I kind of like it but then it gets weird because you find out the loads of women of being brainwashed into becoming Judy specifically and like the first time I saw that I was like why would you just have them be different women like one of them could be Judy one of them could be you know Jane what you can make a bunch so from there Team Avatar are like unnerved naturally I think we'd all would be yeah I think they would be two episodes later I think the old Judy comes back she's like knocks on the door and they're like oh my god old Judy and she's like no I've always been this Judy and they're like and then they're like how is this possible how do you switch bodies how how how how and she's just like nope I'm always Judy and there's this weird moment like go you could go check out the scene people listen to this they um she she just like brushes that off and then they go so why are you here and I was like whoa what no we can't just skip over the fact we've got this lady that switches bodies like you kidding me and then she's like ignored by them and uh she goes back to Longfang like this following scene and she explains that like they don't trust her and he's like disappointed and wants her to be brainwashed again I was like what did you expect you've been giving them different bodies like I like if you want to say like Longfang isn't a great strategist they're like okay there's other things you can try buddy it's like oh they're just those pesky kids don't trust me even like why in the world would they trust you it was it was funny they all looked like to me I don't know can that trust you all I would say is like guys when you brainwash them just give them different names and tell them there are different people it's fine we'll just do that that was that was I think it was done for comedic effect or something it's odd because the fact that they just brush it off they're just like all right fine you're a different body anyway why are you here if I was in that room I'd be like what are you in their defense they are country kids they are from the south pole they they don't know what actually goes on in the big city so maybe just people to switch bodies in the big city brainwash anybody who thinks that's weird anyone who thinks that's weird they're invited like loud guy that's at least now that's a meme I'm in on I don't know what's going on dude I mean this is just I I can answer this myself but I may as well throw it out there how did how did Ang and Oppa survive being frozen for a hundred years just because it's just definitely just because like because I've had some people tell me it's like Avatar State those like Appas are the Avatar State how did I guess it's just I think it's just traditional movie logic you trapped a nice you can live forever it's just the matter of you getting thought out because he said young he was frozen in ice yeah well it's because I probably levy the same criticism of Gates the MCU for that one it's kind of just like you don't so in the same way right because you can get away with that quote unquote but principally you shouldn't get away with it and what I mean by that is like we have a character who is ejected into space and he's floating around out there and then someone grabs him one day and brings him back down and he's the character again be like it's space is different no because we we accept space is death like in movies so you died space unless you're like I guess in like a like a parody kind of thing you can survive you know like that sort of yeah inverting rules on purpose but um if you're watching Jimmy Neutron and you can literally breathe in space and be good to go but like you have like I think Batman and Robin they freeze people and then they're like they have to be thawed within 10 minutes otherwise they won't be fine and you're like I don't think that's how that it's like okay and then they get they get a round a lot of stuff when it comes to Mr. Freeze because he freezes people and then they can't really have him being that big of a mass murderer because he loses his well they um sympathetic card I wish I had the the rafters for you but I remember there's several points in Avatar where they freeze people but they leave their head they leave like a space for it implying that it's like you have space to breathe and I'm I'm always sitting there like but but I didn't have space to breathe because I think they don't want people questioning like wait mom why is it the they put ice all over does that guy is that guy dead now or the parents like no if someone gets frozen like that I guess in combat then it might be as soon that they're dead at least so Aang put like a little orb around himself that was filled with also filled with ice so I don't know maybe it's some weird Avatar magic that allows him to be frozen it's a distant ancient water-bending technique whatever happened whatever reason that's what that's what ended up happening so here's a question how did the Fire Nation attack and destroy all of the aeromads in the air temples when you can only access them through flight Aang actually asked that question he's like as in the first few episodes there's no way how they conquered the air temples because you have to get to there by flight and then they get over there and they're all conquered so I guess they maybe they buried underneath somehow or maybe it didn't really answer that question it is you just figure out that they did you know that they did but you don't know how there's some stuff to work with being first and foremost they did attack them during Sozin's Comet passing and we know that Ozai can fly while Sozin's Comet is passing so I think Asula can fly on her own normally just the jet boots can she jet boost technique yeah she has a jet boost technique where she can put fire underneath her feet that's how she was able to survive a fall I think huh Jesus she's OP well yeah cool I mean because I know the guitar almost kind of sort of uses a flight type thing at the end of season two she just needs a large body of water I think aren't the aren't the air temples on a mountain it could have been so uh wait I don't know this was the thing I was gonna say let's say because not all the Fire Nation can fly we know that because like Saka's plan and the finale relies on that if some of them got up there I I'm not like the the air people they're pretty good at their job right they'd be able to because I feel like air would be a really good counter to fire blast a flame at you and you just you know loop it back and uh you can use I don't know I just it is interesting to me I am curious and then of course the whole nomads part of it I don't know I just I wouldn't have called them nomads I don't think they're nomads anymore but I think they might have been nomads at one time maybe they're traditionally called nomads good but they're clearly not nomads in the show anymore that's what I mean just don't call them nomads that's all that's all that's all a bugs if you maybe that's two of the does I don't know but it's clear that the a lot of Fire Nation people did die in the conquest of those air temples and I could see that someone being a commander or someone a general maybe that the Fire Lord at that time being so because that's the one person those are the one people they want to exterminate because that's what that's where the avatar was going to come back he was he was going to he's an airbender they're trying to kill the avatar so there's a lot of motivation to conquer all of these air temples so I could see a general or the Fire Lord being so anxious and aggressive and so dead set on conquering all of these temples they kind of handle the barcuit and had all of their tremendous and I'll climb the mountain and wave after wave of Fire Nation soldiers sacrificed until they managed to destroy all of the air nomads and conquer the temple yeah like I said it's just sort of like a moment of just hmm I guess you have to sort of figure out how you think it could have worked it's one of this space it's just one of these mystery boxes it's just one of those mystery boxes why would Iroheatup is tea with this firebending when surrounded by refugees from for the Fire Nations war like Zuko calls him out for it but I was just like damn Iroh is supposed to be like one of the smartest characters in the whole show why the hell did he do that well he's wise but I mean he has his weaknesses too he just really likes good hot tea and something he can't really do without like it can get him and his very surrogate sudden killed yeah but he really likes tea he really needs his hot tea and he thought maybe he thought no one would notice he just teed up drink it real quick and they wouldn't be that big of a deal but he's that's his weakness his tea this is more of a dissatisfaction one as well but uh Saka spends the whole the whole episode like acquiring his space sword and he uses it a couple times he ends up throwing it at a platform slices through it almost magically because it's an amazing throw that it just falls and he's lost it forever I was like why did they do that ripped space sword Saka is the smart guy the group he's just a world smart guy but he's not always the wisest now again in the moment it's like this is a good idea I'll just throw my space sword and get this thing done oh it doesn't come back to me because I used to I used to use I used to using a boomerang just have it did some kind of string whip chain thing attached from like Kratos style and he uses a stylifying like that just so he can keep it and also be awesome that's that's all I'm so I'm saying I like this losing the space sword I like the space sword too it was a really cool concept because it was made from a meteor and and he used the earth from space that kind of thing they call it space earth like is it really called earth if it's in space and but it was really neat because it was this rare ultimate material and he got this awesome sword and it was really cool but he lost it and I think it was I think the the intention there was that oh he's really cool with this awesome space sword but that's not who he is and it shouldn't be who he is so that he loses it so that he continues to be awesome without this space sword acting as a crutch and again they actually call it a space sword I like that like oh my space sword I like that so when we're learning about avatars there's there's one who's representative of like a fire avatar and he bursts and controls four volcanoes at the same time and I was just like why would you show me that and then also show me Roku having incredible trouble in the avatar state trying to deal with what volcano or that guy knew the secrets and he couldn't tap into that guy's secrets I don't know it's just because like you know I don't know I'm not going to pull out the he's old defense because that's a meme in my community but when you're in the avatar state you have the knowledge and power I'm assuming you are vulnerable of course but you're still extremely powerful I just like I was surprised that he was defeated by that volcano to be honest with you it shouldn't happen again this is brand new computer so I would be very very peeved if it does with Roku I mean I think this is where it comes in with the why all avatars need training and they don't specifically say this okay I know that but if I were to make a conjecture it's that maybe avatars can type into the power of previous avatars but they can't always tap in or maybe they don't really tap into the previous techniques of previous avatars it's not all of them especially if they're like what three generations ago which is why they need to train on their own get their own techniques and are able to with training use utilize those techniques inside the avatar state I can't remember if Aang ever used like a specific technique that was used by previous avatar other than maybe some like a form or a fighting style but not a specific technique like controlling volcanoes I'm not really I can't remember that that well I would just like Godzilla right like yeah holy moly how is it that an eclipse prevents firebending when the sun is still there and it still actually is shooting out some level of light like it's not pitch black but then nighttime doesn't take their power away on that part I'm not really sure like it could be because traditionally like it misses this and everything eclipses eclipses are not just blocking out the sun it's it has a whole bunch of other mystical elements to it so it it might be that the eclipse here is not just blocking the blocking of the sun it might also be doing something else because I think it's what the moon too it's this is ever to tell you what exactly is walking out the sun because usually something to do with the shadows oh so this this is the interesting thing right because my first thought was it's the moon and the lunar eclipse solar eclipse whatever and so with the moon spirit and moon blah blah blah I was like there's gotta be maybe some argument there for why it's fucking with the firebenders but then I was like surely like at night time when the moon is just chilling out there that that would have to fuck with firebenders at that point right like I'm sure they are depowered but I don't see why they wouldn't just lose their ability entirely if that's what it does when they get an eclipse you said the the only the only conclusion they come up with on that question is that it's something special happens something more magical or mystical happens during an eclipse that never happens any other time it seems to be the only thing that seems to be plausible in that scenario it sort of slips into the category of just like it's just how it works it's like okay like it's not it's pretty tough to make a functioning I guess you could call it magic system right I think some people do call it a magic system very tight very much tied to spiritual mysticism elements so it gets complex when you try and sort of distill it into a mechanic yeah but of course the show still needs these mechanics because a lot of the drama is based on them so it's just like a matter of just like but what about and it's like yeah like all right I thought it was really strange that like you get these animals are teaching people it's not that they teach them like they give them the ability to bend it's that that everybody is either got the ability or doesn't like genetically and then the animals teach you how to use that I guess potency that you have naturally and of course the the badger moles I think do earth the oh yeah dragons do fire and the skybison do air then water is done by the moon and I was like what and this is the idea that the moods gravity is obviously pulling and controlling the tides and that people watch that and they learn how to water bend better and I was just like so surely like harsh wind would teach them how to water bend then too and the gravity of earth affects water like obviously it seems odd to me like what okay the other ones didn't freeze it just to stop working different there's a difference it I could do everything else it is not no programs would run anymore for so amazing oh I was just talking about how like I guess bending seems to work and where they got it from and and the only other animals and everything yeah and the only other thing I was gonna say was the Godzilla thing I would have thought he'd be like man this will be super useful for a future battles potentially to save the world but I guess it's like too risky to do anything with him because like you know he goes into the water at one point and I was just like could you just travel to the fire nation and fuck shit up I don't know you know I don't know there seems to be some some contrivances there and carry the fish in a bucket and put the special water there and make sure you already travel during moonlight or whatever I don't know just it might be it might be the fact that I don't really care because they're animals interfere with the situations of mankind there's there to teach you but they're not there to solve problems for you that sort of thing I mean we don't solve that we don't solve the problems for the dragons so but yeah a lot of it's like it's a bit I just have to do a bit of hand wavy stuff and I'm just like yeah that's how it works go away I think it's supposed to play into more like it's supposed to play into more like the nature holds wisdom you go into nature to get the wisdom but nature can't really do things for you or else you wouldn't really need the wisdom in the first place on the day of the Black Sun they the Financians plan is to sort of delay them enough so that the eclipses over and they get their their powers back and trick them into thinking that Ozai was in his throne room turns out he's not but then the the heroes conclude he's still going to be nearby because he's got a command people and they're right about that I thought that was so strange I was like surely you wouldn't want to be anywhere near the place because that's the one place they want to try and get him and stop him and everything's over for him if he's captured or or killed and he's got like nobody to send messages to what I mean by that is he doesn't everyone's doing what the plan is if you know what I mean like what is it that he needs to do and of course so that's just odd to me but then they also let a significant portion of their men remain unaware that they're about to lose their powers on that day to the point where a lot of them are easily defeated I thought that was strange I understand the idea that they're trying to essentially trap or convince these our heroes that they're winning when they're actually going to you know get counted significantly but like why wouldn't you just allow your soldiers to be aware of that anyway and just have them you know don't waste so many of them I guess is where I'm going with that I mean if you remember what the what the reason Zuga got banished in the first place because they were they did just that they uh they're going to sacrifice a bunch of people just for the sake of getting a victory and that wouldn't put the past to do it again yeah no that's fair I just it's just like I guess if I was on the in the boardroom I'd be like really guys I would rather us just drop our bed into a cat and to fire it at them but this point like at least they'll be more useful it's kind of like a long shanks you know the movie Braveheart where they're all his men are all fighting he starts to shoot arrows into them to the melee anyway yeah that's that happens in Game of Thrones season six that does happen yeah and then this this is getting very specific but it I I really do feel this permeates a tab through the season but this will be like my primary sort of reference when and she her whole goal is to delay them that's what she needs to do until the eclipse is done so that she and Ozai and everyone else gets their fire powers back second all right so they arrive and if you remember Toph immediately captures her as she puts her in like a rock prison but then she's burst out of the rock prison because there were two earthbenders the two Dai Li in the room as well my first thought was like wait how didn't Toph detect them like that's her whole thing like because they're a surprise they're they're they're attached to the the ground of the ceiling if you know what I mean like the whole room is one material and and they're on the ceiling I was just like she should know they're there secondly like I don't see how she can't there's two Dai Li and a jumping around Azula these guys fought the entirety of like the earth capital earthbenders like all of them at once Toph she annihilates them she's incredible and like they spend the whole scene Toph awkwardly pushing people away with rocks and then Aang just firing air blasts at Azula over and over again and like it it really bugs me because I'm like dude if you hit her with one of those what happens then she just gets back up you're firing air at her you've got to capture her with earth and he can do that he just doesn't and then they um if you remember they go down a corridor thing and Saka's like she's trying to fucking distract us we need to go find Ozai ignore her and then she's like I've got your girlfriend and he like loses his shit and goes to attack her but she has a knife and for a moment I was like oh shit are they about to do something thingy and then Toph just like flick of her fingers just captures Azula with a piece of rock that attaches to her hands and to a wall and she's done and I was just like why don't you do this like more often because Toph Toph is involved in so many fights where I feel like she should just be able to do that but then sort of just doesn't until the plot is like it's time for her to do it now um of course that's made worse than by once the eclipse is over Azula's surprise hits them with leg firebending if you know what I mean how didn't Toph see that coming her whole thing is to be able to detect movements before like the as the moves are being made by people and so she would easily be able to counter that by just attaching more rocks in terms of like a rock prison but then Azula just bursts out of it as well like and I was just like man like Azula as much as I think she's awesome I don't think she can beat Toph like uh Toph would just you know embed her into the soil I just feel like Toph is depowered a lot when we're fighting against important people and I think I think the other people all her friends are keeping Toph back I think I mean I really like Toph she's uh oh yeah Toph is awesome is this I think she's so used to being on her own and then at that point she kind of kept her guard down and uh she kind of started trusting other people and it kind of held her back because he's you know okay well other people can pick this up other people are going to do these things and I can't fight to my full power anymore because there's other people have to take care of and not make sure they don't get hit by my earth bending that sort of thing so it might well very well be that Toph is being held back by Sok I wouldn't put that past anyone Sok is totally dying I'm not asking for Toph to kill anyone I just wish she would use her capture abilities more consistently I guess because like they're so OP it's kind of the same for Katara and freezing she does it really casually in different fights but then sometimes she just sort of doesn't do it the best example I can think of is when she's do you remember the end of season two when they're surrounded by firebenders and Aang decides to try and commit to the um the Avatar state and obviously he's struck down and Katara is like oh my god and so she's tsunamis to get over to him which covers all of the firebenders in the room in that and I was just like wait freeze it as soon as you've covered all of them freeze it freeze it freeze it freeze it freeze it I'm just like well Katara do it she still manages to escape so you know it's all good it's just the um she her final fight with Azula um that's like a two fold confusion for me she spends like a million years finally figuring out she can freeze her which I was like constantly asking to do and she finally does at the end only she like breathes her way out of it but like she like turns her side into water and then fishes around and attaches like cuffs to Azula but Azula like all of the other firebenders can melt ice by breathing outward like that's a thing that they all do if ever you freeze a firebender they can go like they can you know blow out their nose or their their mouth and um it'll melt the whole thing right and Azula is like a really powerful fire breather too because it's like a few seconds later she starts cackling and then she starts breathing fire and they're like whoa and they have to get away from her obviously yeah I remember that fight I don't know the specifics of the fight but yeah sometimes you have you think they should be freezing someone or using some they're earthbanging to capture someone and it's it's in a fight you might know the techniques and everything and in a fight you might be able to see through things but when you're up against someone who's like Azula who's like a prodigy or a master or is puts you off regarding she breaks your confidence that's part of her power and when you're in a fight sometimes you can do things when you have more confidence you can fight guys you can fight bad guys with a better effect than you would someone who's a fellow master someone who's on or above your level and sometimes you just honestly you just can't think of the technique to you at that time this happens uh you remember it even happens in fighting games you're going to have two masters of a fighting game together and they just I should have done this or I should have done that show them that technique so it's a it's all a matter of the chaos of battle the chaos of mealy and you can't always think about that because it is it is chaos and it is you're worrying about so many things at once and they aren't they still aren't adults they are still kids and everything and you might take that as an excuse but to me that's that's where it fits that's why I can I can accept it in my personal opinion all right so sticking with the the day of the black sun do you remember it ends with them basically deciding like we're kind of screwed and the despite us having our collective here not all of us can escape and so they decide that all of the children will escape on opera and the rest of the adults will be captured so I have a couple of issues with this first of all let me show you quickly you can easily fit a couple more people on there at the very least opera is an extremely powerful beast and like it frustrates me that they're willing to give up a few seats to no one because I guess they're all adults that are left so it'll be awkward and yet episodes later they go on a crazy potential suicide mission to save just Kitara's dad who is in this crowd right now the almost cost obviously Saka, Zuko and Suki the all three of them and the people they meet in the prison very risky I think it's Suki I think she's there so that frustrates me but then what really kind of super gets me is they've got Ang and Tof and they're standing on earth and they're concerned that they can't all get on to opera nor can they all escape because the Fire Nation are coming do you remember how Tof can literally like and Ang they can just borrow huge tunnels whenever they want oh yeah over there so like just go down you're on earth right now go down cover up the top and then just burrow keep burrowing until you get really far out and before anyone thinks of like well you know that could take a long time and it's kind of risky it's like you've got an airbender you can get oxygen to everybody pretty easily and it's better than a Fire Nation prison especially when you just tried to essentially overthrow their kingdom you guys are in for trouble like this is absolutely worth any kind of risk and besides Arpa can get everyone to safety and then come back Ang can stay with obviously the people who are burrowing and he can whistle him in and you can take another selection of people and siphon them all away to safety instead they're like well you're all gone too bad it's like wow I don't know it just really bothered me as the sort of finisher to this I was just like you're gonna let all these people potentially die just because you can't fit a few of them onto Arpa nor can you use Tof this incredible earth bender to your advantage I mean was it a time constraint do they have enough time to do all that well it's the thing burrowing like is something that they do super fast in the show they do it at the end of season two which is this is after and um when they're crossing the snake pass way if you if you remember their um uh Tof like lifts a platform for them that's like several meters tall and it has everybody on it like I know they're capable of doing these things and they're capable of doing it fast well I mean it could have been just uh they that matter of time matter they just didn't have enough the instance to start that burrowing or anything like that uh you know honestly they probably didn't they probably didn't think of it I mean I'm talking about the riders they probably the riders probably didn't think of it ha ha ha ha I mean that's they're gonna keep it kind of escape it's fine it's got it's my my my thing here is just trying to explain like what bothered me pretty much what I was watching I was just like boo and I know loads of people will not have problems with these things I get it yeah and it's but it was far more dramatic for it to end that way it's far more dramatic to separate the kids from the parents and everything yeah so uh it's it's it's more forgivable on people's eyes because the drama kind of covers it up oh yeah about that rock to make I think it was serpent past I think that's what it was called so they come to a portion of it that's uh overrun with water and so you like how do we cross this and the first thought I had was like oh we'll just get tough to rebuild it right she's like super earth bender instead they decide to have Katara generate an air bubble for them to walk down into the water and back up onto the surface and I was like damn that's risky like compared to just making a platform it's so much more cool I guess it is it is more cool yeah um it's far more cool and then you have the crazy serpent attacks like all right so they all get you know separated tough mix the platform Katara makes an ice bridge and I was like no tough make a rock bridge because an ice bridge is slippery but no it's fine they all run across it even a pregnant lady running across I was just like wow all right yeah fine no I'm okay with it I think it's feasible that you can run across a frosty bridge so she made it very sturdy and uh non-slippery right I think during that time wasn't um tough really scared because it wasn't it wasn't as earthy as you wanted to be I mean there's so much water around them this is what I was gonna say I have a oh no she well this is my problem right so she should have made the rock bridge regardless but they run off on the frost bridge and they don't look at the fucking blind girl they just leave her I'll pull this up for you now I'm gonna go battle it there she goes with her frosty bridge they've all crossed over and all of them have forgotten about tough for some reason and then they have this shot and I just really want to highlight this because it makes me laugh the literal aesthetic look at her she's t-posing and she's a blob like what is that and yeah I guess on a serious no I just can't believe that it was it was upsetting to me that they all made it this far without realizing tough and even done anything and then uh again they're so used to tough being so on her own because that's what she her whole characterization was she was being on her own she was uh trying to be as independent as possible because she was blind she liked the fact that people were waiting on her hand and foot and it's only now that finally she is vulnerable part of my issue is that um she manages to protrude this rock out of other rock and now she's like ah I can't cross a frost bridge it's like yeah make yourself a rock bridge and these powers I'm just like pull out of that why did I know you guys can do these things as far as you can maybe she doesn't have the confidence anymore maybe she just can't just can't it's not enough earth to manipulate or she can't uh see or take enough earth to manipulate because I'm not sure if her senses go underwater well I mean she's she's touching water uh earth with her feet right now right and we saw that she was able to look how high up she managed to push this pretty thick platform all I would suggest is um straighten it out into one line forward oh it's just straight now at the platform into a bridge yeah go for it I don't see why she can't she I mean I don't know if you remember she's um she is a powerful earth bender at her best I remember she uh fought the boulder and no one no one defeats the boulder and this is tough this whole assault I was um man our team are on point to the to the degree I was like you guys should just go and attack the fight I should you'll be fired also yeah Katara kicking absolute ass she throws them all in there and freezes them immediately and it's like damn if you only did that with the fucking important plot people yeah check this bit out now this is such a like is there any one who could beat toff in a fight he just turned all the stairs flat yeah up they go and make it an elevator but yeah there's just a lot of times where I'm sitting there like no do the thing and they don't do the thing I was like I mean it looks like sometimes it takes I mean every time you see someone bend they have to have some sort of confidence it's very uh it's usually if they're scared or emotionally compromised it's it looks like it's hard for them to bend I don't know because have you ever seen someone bend that whether they're scared or terrified and they have to have this like bring themselves back to well I assumed Katara's bloodbending was done out of fear for um and that was that's what I was thinking uh that particular scene that she was afraid while she was being bloodbend and then she gained confidence and started bloodbending back oh I was actually talking about when she bloodbent it was out of fear for because what the woman was doing was having soccer with his sword forward fly into Ang like the point being she was going to have him kill him and then it was uh the her bending the old lady that saved them so I assumed that you could argue she did that out of fear she was like no no no no and then you know I like the phrase bending the old lady Katara's so mean for specter I was just bending up the old lady just put her in the box put her in the mystery box I think the only thing I can think of is maybe Toph wasn't as confident or in the right emotional state at that moment to make that bridge to utilize her powers to the full capacity because even even that example she seemed to be strained she has to have a supreme concentration to be supreme confidence in her abilities to make that those stares into a slip and slide thing and this is back with when she's scared when she's um she feels vulnerable the first one of the first times in her life she actually feels un-incapable of defending herself then uh it might might have compromised her abilities I think that's why they set it up like that in the first place because they they even pointed out that she's really scared and unable to really help herself because of said fear well uh because there's a thing right they're at the bottom of the ocean it's not that far that well they're they're on the pass but it's uh enough of it's submerged right and so the bubble is popped they're all under water but then she immediately pushes a big platform up so that they can be rescued I would say like if she's capable of that under these most severe circumstances she shouldn't probably be able to just make up that bridge right and that's not including the fact that I still think they should have opened with that I really like the the stupid air bubble thing I was like just make a bridge yeah but in their defense it was way cooler from crossing an air bubble okay you got sometimes you have to sometimes you have to do is to obey the rule of oh dude I if ever I want to make anything that I want it to be as cool as possible right and you try and find every way you can to make cool because they are you don't want to go too far and end up being like hey what about how cool a hyperspace kamikaze would look and then you're like Ryan stop that right now get out of here Ryan Johnson what are you doing here you're but it's so cool do you remember what do you hate everyone Zuko is trying to decipher a a scroll does that sound familiar to you is it the one is it the very end of the series or towards the end it is season it's early season three because it's before he leaves the fire nation actually I think I should be able to show you this one I remember him trying to decode a scroll or something but I forgot why exactly does it have to do with the avatar Roku or something so the way it works is that Iro has broken out but Iro leaves him a note I think saying you need to read the history of Sozin and the avatar and at the same time Aang is getting taught the history by Roku like okay and I'm fine with that you could you could call it extreme coincidence they're both learning about that history at the same time but like whatever it's it's that's that's fine maybe the part that I I think it's elementary the the element is that it's mirroring their two journeys right so that's that's good I like that sort of writing so he gets given a scroll that says on it to like look into that history and Zuko's frustrated because he doesn't know where he can find that information and so this this scene happens well so he's he's like annoyed he can't get the information so just check out uh what happens oh wait I might have to pause it a couple times well what does it mean he angrily threw it because he can't figure out what it means that it landed on a candle that revealed a secret message rather than birding it like this kind of stuff would always be so why I don't understand why because what he finds out is he needs to go to the catacombs or the dragon combs I can't remember what they call them and he just read the dragon scrolls in the catacombs that's that's what this secret message says and I'm like if this is a secret message provided secretly by Iroh why wouldn't it just say go read the dragon scrolls in the catacombs like what what happens if that falls into the wrong hands to be like oh no someone was hoping to read something you know what I mean like I was like why have this contrived nonsense where he throws it randomly and it lands on a candle that lights up the secret but I was like we know sometimes these things happen okay they do these things happen he's you know there was the first was the inventor of the cornflakes then the inventor of Coca-Cola now Zuko found a secret message oh yeah so this again I I guess this is like just a couple contrivances so Katara spots Zuko in Ba Sing Se finally like it's been a whole season she finally happens to spot him which I'm okay with but it also happens to be the very moment that telling the king about it means that the the disguised Azula will find out about it she just arrived and so she now knows where Zuko is I was just like oh I think there's just bad luck on that part because he had so much good luck I suppose he had so much good luck and now it's time for the luck to change and of course Rams up the stakes they don't have time to utilize any goodness that comes out of that you know they don't utilize any positive that comes out of it Azula already knows and she's already she's already coming for him that's what Azula does why didn't Toff's parents send anybody else after she stopped the two people in season two that is something I've always asked why did they just stop they just they just give up they seem to pretty they seem pretty predictive of their daughter and then they I think they might have forgotten about that plot point a little bit she defeats the people who went after her in the first place and then they kind of just stopped yeah yeah I guess everything maybe they learned that she's cable of handling herself after she beat some a group of tough guys but I don't know they seem to be I think because I think they learned that she was a really good fighter or something and they still wanted to protect her so she had to run away so I don't know I don't know why they didn't send any more people I always ask that where's some more people coming after Toff should she have a big bounty on her head by now yeah because they look super rich yeah they're a really really rich influential family so yeah so this you might be able to just help me out on this one because it just it seems so strange to me but essentially the the villain of season two without once the villain of season two eventually turns into a Zula but as it stands it's a long thing why would he like claim that his civilization will fall apart if they were aware that war was happening and to have that position when they regularly have many refugees from war entering the capital and you might be like well they're brainwashing people who talk about it I'm just like yeah no I know it's just like you're gonna so he's concerned that his economy is going to crash if they find out a war is happening which is fascinating to me compared to the idea that you're like I'm sure it won't have any detrimental effects on my civilization you have like roaming brainwashing squads that puts people in like abject fear I was just like I don't know this is so odd to me and they've been they've done it successfully are we supposed to assume like a hundred years because it says he's kept the 100 year war a secret on his wiki page I was just like he managed to make it so that an entire century passed and they haven't figured it out yet or if they did they were brainwashed just like wow he's really good at his job he's apparently really really good at his job except when it comes to drills there's a polite spot okay I don't think anyone has tried that before I was like a new thing he's like whoa wait a minute what is this that drills approach when it first arrives it's so slow that I was like oh my god as this did they originally as this been like did they activate it before season one like was it like slowly leaving like the fire nation it's like he's gonna get took a while to get there he said it activated really really early but eventually got there I found it really hard to believe that the king wouldn't have been aware of it when he had the five war generals who are very aware of the war that he he like values their input I don't understand why they established that while simultaneously establishing that the guy has no idea there's a war going on they're probably I mean they're probably like manipulating the king on the behalf of long fang no no no those generals got knocked out by long fang because they're they're good guys oh yeah yeah so so he's so what happened in that context with that he really like he really respected the generals but they got taken about long fang that would happen well long fang is proven to be a fraud and then like we plan for war and then the five generals are just introduced they're just like yeah we're just the five earth capital generals of war and that the the king will trust whatever our conclusion is in terms of the war and I was just like what we're what like we you we're what where are you guys and again this could be something I've missed detail wise which is totally possible for all of these things it's just that I found that really weird again this I guess so this is sorry I meant to mention this one I do that a lot with this the the turning of water into ice and into fog water into fog so like the ability to essentially alter what you could call the molecular process I don't I don't know the specifics the particles at the very least is amazing as a as a waterbender they can change the temperature on the fly of the thing they're bending and I wonder if that applies to the other benders can they I guess it does to fire because they can make blue fire right which is like a hotter fire I assume yeah I think you could do I think there was green in there somewhere but I don't think anyone actually used it yeah and if you can turn water into fog can you not because I my answer to this question myself would just be that it's just a really high hard move to do but pull water out of fog if you know what I mean oh yeah change fog back into water act as a dehumidifier pretty sure you could do that I don't see why they mention it's possible we never see anyone do it though I don't think yeah I mean that'd be so useful in war just it's an instant smoke grenades let's get some waterbenders and have them throw fog at the end dude just tsunami and freeze that's the way that's like ultimate ability ever tsunami freeze go just bringing tons and tons of water and tsunami and freeze this was we kind of covered this earlier I just wanted to make sure the thing I thought it was boring that Jong Jong is like absolutely not going to teach hang and then dude shows up and says you will and he goes okay because it's partly to do with the fact that I consider Jong Jong to be quite a wise character by the looks of these very seasoned he's aware of the the downfall of fire bending and he's obviously been involved with the fire nation quite quite an interesting character say the least and then he's like absolutely not and then Roku's like yeah you will he's like I think he's even I think he's a rebel at that point isn't he he's like an outcast or yeah yeah criminal yeah yeah I mean he's a usually traditionally masters only accept students are only supposed to accept students when they once they prove themselves and yeah that's what I thought they were going to do was have like Ang do something that would have earned and he just says no and Roku's like yeah you do it okay that's what I kind of should have been done but I think I don't know maybe because I think Zhong Zhong was kind of that's a jerk or something I don't know yeah it's kind of I guess I always thought it was like he's got a huge history that justifies it you know like he's he's gone through some shit because obviously he has because he's turned against his own nation that's pretty that's pretty big to fight against your own people for the sake of others because you you and you yourself think that principally he has gone astray so that's huge it's huge especially for a general like him I think he was like a top tier general or something before he turned tail so I think it's more of a pompous sort of thing maybe it's an ego sort of thing oh yeah I just I'm clearly talking just from a satisfaction level like does it make sense that this fucking incredibly powerful being just came to you and said you will teach him would you agree with that I was like yeah probably you'd be like oh my god don't kill me um I just think that it could have been cool for Ang to prove himself to Zhong Zhong in some way I mean I would have been really cool I mean that's what it should have been done usually traditionally should have been that but I think in this case he uh he really bowed to Roku because he's fighting his own people because he believes his people have gone astray and Roku represents a time I think I believe when uh the foreign nation was not had not gone astray and he he probably really respects he's probably like a Roku fan boy and said okay I'll teach him for Roku and I'm pretty sure on Avatar Roku's and he's like okay enough of this we don't have time for this stuff just teach him firebending we need to get this we need to get on with this stuff we need to get to the final like the finish line of this thing um do you remember Heibai in early season one-ish it's before the winter solstice he's a Heibai he's a spirit who is angry because the forest has been spirit of the forest yeah spirit of the forest okay yeah I remember this one was weird to me he um he in one night destroys like four I want to say four houses on a watch tower I think before kidnapping Saka and leaving they tell us that he's attacked three nights previously he did that level of destruction in the fourth night I was just thinking to myself like dude leave like he's he's wrecking like the town itself it feels like he's destroyed a quarter of the town in one night and he's been there for three others and I'm just like is there just one building left and the weird thing is when he's smashing them they're kind of watching it like this is awkward it's like oh my god dude that's where you like live and um they move on to say the ag needs to stop it before the winter solstice because when he does the when the winter solstice comes around he's gonna be super pissed he's gonna annihilate the whole place it's like I think he already has so it was funny to me obviously uh I'm not sure what they were going for exactly he was weird I just thought it was funny that they Aang managed to solve all of this by giving it an acorn and without context like here's the the only reason why the acorn represented hope to Aang is because Katara came to him and say hey Aang these are everywhere and they'll grow back the forest will go back because there's acorns all over this place Aang just gave the spirit an acorn and just turned around and left like the spirit didn't know that the spirit didn't know that the forest grows back apparently he needed ag to sort of connect those dots I just thought it was kind of strange, kind of funny but the thing is I can accept it also because yeah maybe he didn't know I mean it's not really portrayed as an intelligent spirit it's more like an animalistic primal spirit maybe he didn't know and maybe Aang giving that spirit the acorn he being the avatar in between peace offering yeah because the the avatar is basically the emissary the ambassador to the spirits from the mortal realm so uh I think it would be it's meaningful to the spirit if the avatar gives it to the spirit the hope being the avatar's hope becomes the spirit's hope so I think it's probably what would happen to me just look kind of funny okay I got an acorn now I'm I'm fine do you remember the beach episode yes that's one of the most infamous episodes I think wait why because because everyone always refers to it because it's a it's the fan fiction episode or the fan service episode it's all the fans? Jesus I uh I think it's the worst episode of avatar by far I think it's a filler right is it a filler is it a hangout I guess you could at least it works yeah they're attacked by vagina head man who like blows him up with his lasers that shit man that I was not prepared Sparky Sparky boomer I when that first I was like the funny thing is I think ER has shown it in his videos before but I somehow managed to like forget about it because when I saw it I had no reference I was like what the what what is this like it's just like it's like a variation of uh fire bending I guess apparently it's some sort of like secret fire bending technique we can bend fire out of his brain or something it felt uh like it wasn't real when you first did it because I was just like I was not we're not prepared for that but the thing is the I guess you could call that the B plot the A plot is um our villains who have caused some destruction across the time they've been on this show being like hyper childish and again you might be like well that's their age and I'm like yeah I know it feels incongruent with like how threatening they can be as as as villains while simultaneously being like these really young teens who are still living about love and I'm like oh I guess so and obviously I'm referencing stuff like the guy kisses Azula and then she does like the Darth Vader speech to him she's like we could take over the world together that he's like whoa I'm out of here and I was like that part is you reference that part is you reference to show her social awkwardness where she's she's really good when it comes to business like she's really good when it comes to manipulating people for her own ends or for the ends of the fire nation but she's not really good in personal to person like personal relationships just like Zuko isn't they're both pretty socially awkward is that Azula can hide it better because she's a social butterfly wouldn't she needs to be but when it comes to just talking to people doesn't really work that well well there's just so much stuff going on that episode that like threw me for a loop the um the acrobatic one who like paralyzes like eight guys all in a big highly yeah I was just like wow hopefully there's no repercussions for that you could just sort of do that and it'll be fine when they like wreck the whole place at the end of the episode and finish all like smiley faces everything's happy I was just like geez I get that they're villains but like whoa um you know Zuko's still not quite made it to good guy territory at that point I guess um not yet not yet he's still kind of evil and yeah and then you know you have like you're just jealous because I'm hot and she's like you're a freak and there's just like crying and she's like don't cry I am kind of jealous like oh okay like the dialogue throughout that episode makes me want to kill myself uh the the the the fireplace discussion they have where they all basically explain their back stories one by one in a matter of about four minutes I don't think I've ever seen like a more blunt way of expositing to the audience exactly how these people feel and they justify by being like this is the beach that does that it makes you want to say these things and get a clean slate and I was just like okay I mean that's this is them talking it's uh because they're supposed to be friends technically technically speaking Azula is friends with my entirely uh they're just not traditionally friend they went to school together I think well yeah I mean I still remember because it was just it's that blunt it's like she grew up with a whole family of people who looked similar to her so she wanted to kind of go acrobatic mode and join the circus style thing to become individual because she hates the idea that like she'll she'll never be able to stand out from the crowd next one she was like an only child and constantly did everything her parents said she should do acted accordingly and she's lived well because of it and that's why she's reserved and doesn't have outbursts but she does at the end of that sentence because that's when she's revealing things Azula is upset because the mum never loved her as much as she loved Zuko despite the fact that she was like called her a monster yeah because Azula was she wasn't a monster she was she's a sociopath pretty much I mean she burns dolls she probably torture animals as she she wanted to I don't know she's she was a pretty crazy kid very manipulated from from day one pretty much it was a very scary person a very scary person so but she is socially awkward like she can't really handle real relationships so her her relationship between Mai and Ty Lee is held together by fear and you see that why I think I think at the boiling rock where they finally betray her because they're finally not they've currently much of the courage or I think Mai even says this so she found something more than she fears she loves Zuko more than she fears Azula that's how she breaks free but there's essentially other than that their friends technically speaking as as close of friends you can be with someone like Azula and so they just hang out together they talk because they're at a beach and just make conversation I think it's kind of like a finally they're able to relax sort of thing I like the fact that Azula when they're finally playing volleyball Azula then instantly points at everyone's weaknesses like this person was hurt here and go back over here to exploit their weakness like I thought it was so goofy because she's like that woman is walking awkwardly on that right leg but she probably had childhood trauma and I was just like okay exploit it exploit that childhood trauma you know like the Darth Vader speech like okay now we are a couple now you will join me and conquering this world it's like an airline I wasn't I didn't come here for that come over this mess you didn't pay me enough for that I'm out do you remember again about the anthology episode Toff is like what I would call kind of single-dimensional and this is the thing I really like Toff and I think that in the same way that Jack Sparrow is like these are characters that are very static but they're so entertaining that it doesn't really matter they drop like an anvil of development on Toff in the anthology episode they reveal like the she's like I don't care how people see me because she's she's blind she doesn't know anyway but then she gets made up and then she's made final for it and she reveals that like that does hurt and and like I was I was like oh my god like this is this is intensely important I want to know more about this and it's you know one off fifth of a one episode I was like what the hell I mean they kind of built it up a little bit they kind of hinted at a little bit since her first introduction to the show where she's um trying to break out of this of by becoming a fighter and her parents are coddling her and coddling her and coddling her and she hates that she hates being treated special or being mocked or made fun of and because it hurts she's she's tough on the outside and she's really tough when it comes to this is so much more things like that should have been like a thing like a whole lot yeah you mean like they should have developed done it more you mean I I mean that's my like crack yeah seeing characters develop over a significant issue over time it's like oh give me and yeah I like I said I like Toph and so seeing that in the anthology episode I was like oh my god expand this into a huge episode maybe even more than one and fortunately Toph is a really really reserved character she's uh she's she's tough she's she has guards up all the time at all the times but there's a one other part I like where she talked with Iro I don't think she even knows she's a bad guy her enemy but she just has a nice little heart to heart talk with Iro which is great straight for a character which is but really good for a character um do you remember when they fight Azula in um like a like a dusty almost like a western town they're the western town thing yeah let me try and find a few as well it takes what five of them to beat her Jerry T to spend her off well I think it I think it was that point where she realized I need to get some help there's a couple of things about that that whole scene and it's kind of stuff I've been alluding to before as well so our whole team is pretty much assembled and they're all anti Azula which is good stuff um though it's like where is Toph well should be here right because she was with Iro and it's like oh she is and look at that she spun the ground to make her slip over Toph why are you not capturing it capture just just puncture her down into the ground in any way, shape or form like you always do like she does in the Black Sun episode but no she just fiddled with it and then sort of stands there and they're like oh hey Toph and then she starts running away again so it's like all right yeah I guess and then he's like oh hey now she's surrounded what's she gonna do and um yeah I guess I'll just do this sort of one at a time because this scene really bugged me um I'll tell you something I really like that Iroh for a moment looks at all of the kids to see that they're okay I'm assuming right because that tells I think that's a good thing that he's like concerned about all these these kids fighting yeah she notices that and so she goes to attack him and she's successful um why didn't Toph do anything look at the movement she's doing like look they don't even react like all of them do but Toph doesn't because she's blind but like Toph grab her and then what they do in response is she fires dust at him a hair sorry like Toph what are you doing and this is the thing Toph is so powerful that I think it kind of fucks up a lot of the minutiae of a lot of fights and episodes because you have to nerf her a lot in order for things to happen because like all of them bend their respective abilities against Azula and she somehow manages to blast them all away look at that man and she's a prodigy no no my point isn't that she shouldn't be able to do it I guess if we like fine I guess she can do it but like that should have fucked them up look at what I did it's like a bomb and she's just gone I'm not exactly sure how but it's fine she flipped away and then another thing that bothers me about this right so he's like super upset Iro just doesn't die from this he's hit and then we see him next episode he's got a bandage on he's okay which he's Iro he has tons of hit points yes the problem however is Zuko's like upset naturally and Kitarra being someone who can heal is like I can he's like no she says I can help right which isn't exactly clear on what she means and he says no go away I think it's completely out of character for Kitarra to just accept that and go I think she'd be like I can literally heal him you ass let me do it but no she just leaves and I was like oh my god Kitarra why'd you let people dial stop it I think in that point it was the humane I think it's like a problem with discord or something at this at this point just what does act up everyone's smile if it updated itself while I was streaming EFAP I was like oh thanks is this like yeah that's what's happened now so yeah the last thing I think I heard you say was you gonna talk about I think at that point it's basically she can she can connect with the humanity because Iroh she can kind of tell that Iroh to Zuko was like Kitarra and her mother like he she might be able to see that he's also prideful and doesn't want to help from an enemy or someone he considers to be an enemy even though she knows she has the best best of intentions you know what I need is for her to insist I think it's a I think she's that altruistic Kitarra cares to help good people I get that he was like get out of here it's just like I would it would only be that if she made it clear she can actually heal him and then he actually threatened to kill her that she would have like that would I would accept it then but even then I think that they would just be like Zuko fuck off she can heal him and Toff would probably insist to be honest with you it's possible Toff would like grab Zuko with rocks and just be like go away like getting him you know but uh yeah um I would assume that uh that that at that moment to because Zuko had shot flames at them as a warning that uh it's kind of like a rabid dog at the moment I mean it's Kitarra probably totally it's just I just I would imagine their perspective is Zuko doesn't understand that we can help this person we just need to help him understand that because he clearly thinks that we're a potential danger right um why would Azula suspect that Aang survived her lightning attack because um this is this is gonna this is a double criticism right so first of all she tells Ozai that she wasn't the one who hit Aang and killed him it was actually Zuko actually this is a triple criticism so first of all she has to just hope then that no other soldier reveals the truth of the matter secondly that um Zuko would go along with it instead of just revealing the truth because he's he's not one to hold on to lies like that thirdly she says she does it in case Aang survived which I don't understand how in the world she would ever expect that to be a possibility Zuko would because he knew about the Healyjuice but she didn't and for some reason she just suspects it and then finally she says she's doing it in case the avatar is alive therefore she wouldn't look like an idiot when Zuko will instead he'll look like the failure but I was like but you're advocating that he was successful so you would have screwed up as well so like the whole the whole thing just doesn't sit well well with me from Azula I guess because she she used the attack she was the one who killed or supposedly killed the avatar in the first place yeah I would assume that maybe she knew that she didn't truck a killing blow and that well she did right because the we find out that the only reason he's alive is the super Healyjuice yeah the super Healyjuice but she might have said that maybe maybe that didn't kill him maybe because she said that she suspects right that she suspects that she killed him maybe it's in terms of maybe maybe it's a not a lethal attack or maybe it is a lethal attack it's it's it could be either one you know in other movies you have a heroes get shot or something like that and the villains think well we just go find them because they might not have died from that it's maybe it's an if and or it's an or maybe they died maybe they didn't that's that strike should have killed them but maybe it didn't kill him because he can survive more than more than the most people probably can I still think that I don't see why she wouldn't see that Ozai would think she's an idiot too because she's she's celebrating the fact that Zuko was successful too and she was there so you know what I mean like I don't just like a weird separation I'm just like what do you think that's going to do Azula like you're still going to be a dumb ass as well do you remember the the Zuko Azula fight in the finale Katara is just standing in the arena but to the side and it makes her like a huge obvious target and I was just myself I was thinking she must be in some kind of safe area because Zuko wants to fight thingy alone which by the way I think is really stupid because this is about saving the world not about Yurigo but he needs to do that apparently which is the same by the way for they say like Ang has to be the one to face Ozai alone and I was like why this is about saving the world this isn't about can the avatar defeat the Fire Lord like it's like no no no we need to get everything to help Ang do this Tof go with him Tof please go with him Tof go with everybody to defeat anyone ever I feel like that would be the the key to most battles but yeah they do that sort of logic and it really frustrates me whether it's like no it has to be you versus him the way it has to be it's an anime trip actually it has to be this it has to be this way like if you've ever seen the elaborate although all of our friends want to go with her at the very end and she goes no I have to do this alone why why because that's how it's done oh well if that's how if that's how it's done then that's how it must be it's it's kind of that logic and yeah so if guitar is not going to help Zuko in the fight it's like guitar hide behind something so that she can't randomly fire lightning at you she's like oh no lightning yeah I was going to mention earlier as well I think we I mentioned it but like I don't know why she guitar didn't open with the tsunami in the finale of season two she's like oh no she's trying to whip some people with a water whip and it's like hey if you have a tsunami powers I would that's the one I'd be going for that would be my tsunami freeze tsunami free tsunami freezes that's just I'd become a water bender and just use tsunami freeze all the time that would be my thing I mean they never as far as I know the show never like tells us that it costs anything to bend oh uh whether they need to eat sometimes I'm trying to remember if they ever get exhausted from bending no but it probably probably takes exertion but it seems that they can bend relatively without consequence kind of yeah I try to think of harder techniques the harder techniques doesn't really cost them too much more is as long as they know how to do it it's fine but that's fine with me and it's just it's just a matter of knowing what techniques to use and what time and in what situation that's really the the thing that really tests them coming back to Zhao the defense for this the even I would suggest is going to be he's an idiot he is kind of yeah he's really dumb as where is it the dessert going to be sharing some clipper runes with you again sorry about the format for this it's so awkward it's just like this is the best I could do all right I really liked that he he hurt Katara while firebending I thought that was that was excellent because it shows his flaw his personality flaws and that he can make mistakes and they can mess things up so badly that he actually hurts people instead of thinking that he killed Chewbacca and transformed him him coming back in the next scene so he thinks like how do I destroy the ships because the fire nation are chasing them first with them I know I will jump on them and as Zhao attacks me he will set them on fire and like when I was watching this for the first time I was like oh come on like really he's just set them on fire but it was made worse by the fact that he has no idea by the way not until Ang reveals it to him in about two minutes from now he doesn't realize he's even on his own boat he's that like dense I'll obviously I'm just playing the clip you're gonna get it in a second because Ang is like you've been defeated and he's like you've not even landed a single blow and then he's like take a look or something like that and just watch the Zhao's reaction to realize like what he just did for like oops yeah I was just like Jesus how are you with this rag you're like hucks how did you manage to fuck that up yeah he's kind of he's an idiot he's self-absorbed he is self-conf... he's very self-confident I know that it's possible that he it's fitting to his character so more accurately to say he's it's fitting for his character to get so absorbed with conquering the avatar and bringing back the avatar so they can get all the rewards one chance to come back that he would be so focused he wouldn't notice that he's attacking his own ships that's I can see that happening with his my suggestion would just be Aang is redirecting his fire and he doesn't realize where it's being redirected to until it's too late if you know what I mean he's shooting it at Aang specifically and Aang is throwing them back in different areas and maybe Zhao is almost convinced that like Aang is just so bad at this he can't even deflect it back at him and he doesn't realize because maybe his back is facing his own ships and it's not until it's too late that he turns around to realize those fireballs weren't actually missing you know that sort of thing instead of he's on his boat he is firing balls at his own boat and that he's like wait a bad thing I understand I understand where you're coming from I just think it's it is still fitting with his character that well this is so self-absorbed that this is a character so focused on conquering the avatar who is told he's going to usher in what is essentially the apocalypse if he kills the fish that he just does it like that I mean he is kind of an idiot really is he's characterized he's characterized as that from the beginning he even got he even lost to Zuko because he's so pompous that he just thinks he can take out Zuko with no sweat at all I got a prince who has been a razor focused on training every second of the day so he can capture the avatar he thinks that he's going to be a walk in the park and he gets defeated by Zuko and he's dishonorable enough to try to stab him in the back he's kind of he is an idiot he is that's his character he's kind of a an idiot made it made stupid by his his ego and how focused he is on being the prideful one the best one and being the one who's on top of it all just to I'll try and run through do you remember that that creature that can smell people and pretty much no matter where they are oh yeah that one with the the bounty hunter I thought the dialogue was so hilarious when they're like here is Aang's stick where is Aang it sniffs it and the lady says your friend doesn't exist and this is when Aang is on the line till and they're like doesn't exist he's dead and she goes no no he's not dead he just doesn't exist I'd like I wish I had like a screenshot on my face I was just like question marks all over my face I was like what how does how does she reconcile that all you need to do to fix this is have her say he's out of range he's so far away that we can't actually trace a scent that's it instead she says he doesn't exist I want her to tell me I want to jump into the universe and ask her what that means just for her to be like he no longer exists upon this plane also there's like what the why are you so comfortable with that process that explanation also I feel like the fire nation would have captured all of those things since the most useful animal like that ever existed for what they essentially want to do which is chase people I don't know maybe they just didn't just didn't if she has she has the only one or maybe it's it's a rare animal who knows that's why I got from it it's like a rare animal like only she really has or there's so few or there's so like they're from an exotic part of the world that no one has explored yet or something um yeah uh Zuko and May's relationship I had no fucking clue that was even going on I was just blowed away with the fact that they started up I was like whoa and they started kissing everyone's well yeah and they it's quite a payoff too because she betrays Azula for that relationship and I was just like damn and that's on top of the fact that they gave us a short story about Zuko finding love in Barsing say I was just like they did what the hell yeah that's really what he goes to he goes to like he takes her out on date they kiss and I thought they were going to develop that but I realized as I probably should have faster an anthology episode is going to be forgotten yeah didn't work out too well not for Zuko because he's Zuko and nothing works out well well for you um do you remember the guy he's gonna be squishing that remember the guy in the library who wants to stay there to read while it's all being engulfed in sand remember that he's like the I don't think so I don't think so he's like the dude who comes along with them and they're about to leave while Toph is struggling to keep it from being like completely engulfed by sand and he's like no I want to stay there's so much knowledge in this library I could read forever and there's this shot where he's reading a scroll and there's like several piles of sand building up around him because the whole place is going to be buried and I was just like what and you might be like who cares it's just some random dude I'm like no I know it's just so silly like why would a person do that I just yeah it's fine it's just like okay he's so dedicated to his studies that he really care I gave you I think I saw a long time ago an anime called Alostar it was on Toonami and there was one professor who didn't care he just wanted as long he didn't care if he died as long as he found out the knowledge that he was searching for that knowledge is more important to him this knowing is more important to him than giving it out or getting famous on the knowledge so that could be that could have been his personality too I thought it was just a funny coincidence that they turn up right before Azula is crowned fire lord he reminded me of Shrek where they're like I object I am with a do-lock it's park one I object yeah and I guess the only other thing off the top of my head because this is the thing I didn't re-watch the show I think we'll try and talk a bit about the positives before we close this off as well this will be the last criticism off the top of my head but like do you remember Bumi has a civilization a city he decides he's going to let the fire nation in because he figures that's the best way to do it without like causing too much trouble and then once his time comes he's going to break out and save the whole city from the fire nation right so why wouldn't he just repel the fire nation regardless because if the worry is they will come back they will be coming back regardless of when he picks them out obviously but we didn't break free though I forgot what he did on the black sun episode so there was still a whole significant portion of a season left before the fire lord is defeated so if you did it on the black sun I mean they have no no bending ability so I guess he oh yeah for sure what I'm arguing is that he breaks the bridge to the city once he's forced them all out and by the way he's an amazing earthbender he picks up like I think he's sitting the strongest whenever yeah and just blings them out and so I'm just sitting there like why couldn't like surely you guys can put up with a full scale war for many years with the kind of power you have yeah when I was rewatching the first season I was like this it must be a real pain to besiege an earth kingdom city because they they have walls they just rebuild with no gates yeah they can just and they they can open a gate anywhere on the wall so you have to keep a constant eye on every inch of that thing and this because that's your traditional siege is just a bunch of gates that you can keep an eye on but in an earth kingdom city it's anywhere anywhere can be an opening it's almost impossible to siege one no wonder iroh didn't do it um so yeah I guess I would be very concerned about letting my city be taken by the fire nation when they've been very very over about killing benders oh yeah or capturing them put them in horrible circumstances so you're like what's the alternative defend the city it's like yeah and I think he proved on the black sunday that whether or not they have fire bending he he alone can defend that city very very well he could throw enormous boulders at whatever machines they may have they're already on like he can bend with his face he can bend with his face that is true so yeah I just found that whole thing strange and uh I guess I guess yeah I guess that's it that is that is pretty much it I can't remember what his plan was because I haven't seen I didn't really watch that episode well he was just hoping to but my best faith interpretation is he wanted to create as little like conflict in his city as possible until the time comes that he absolutely had to but it just makes me wonder about what he really thought would happen to his his citizens and the was it worth it I guess and the surely if the worry was the fire nation would return with that if the fire lord stays we never actually see that even happen so it's all very I have lots of question um but yeah I do want to say I think the voice acting is like fantastic I think a lot of the animation works pretty well I um I like a lot of the writing what I might call writing scaffolding like the what is there there's like a really there's like like the operation man there's like a body but it's got loads of holes and and and maybe organs in the wrong place just like it's still I like absolutely what they're going for and this is this is why the scale of good bad is a little bit useless until you you know try and be more specific this is worlds away from something like TLJ but I also do I don't want to say that this is like great content to me I feel like this is um I try I want to I would rather save that sort of classification for other things because I just I think this one makes it has a lot of a lot of things are pushed in directions arbitrarily and and luckily I think a lot of the character work is is like good in ideas and then the just the execution needs a more more time because there's a lot of what I would call filler episodes while simultaneously having some ideas that happen way too quickly and need a lot more breathing room obviously the tough one I was talking about like the whole you can make like an arc out of the Zhong Zhong thing I feel like all of the the bigger benders could have had a way bigger influence on Aang the just different different high points different big payoffs and then just rules being clearer to me but again I still think like the show I could totally see why someone would love this show I do get that but but I don't know after after sort of going through all of them I just that would be my experience as well as obviously a lot of stuff I haven't mentioned that is good and a lot of stuff I haven't mentioned that I also have problems with it's felt like a lot of the individual episodes had the smaller you know like the throwing the scroll on the candle like that sort of thing was happening here in there enough times that I was getting frustrated because um and you know they're better problems to have than constantly assassinating all of your characters that have lasted for 40 years you know that I I understand that I just um I think a lot better I think yeah what are you what do you think it's not only just killing off your characters but just killing off the personalities all that good stuff all the things you love about them and I think I still think that Avatar Last Airbender is a pretty it's a very masterful work all together considering everything together how it flows for one point to the next doesn't really meander it goes it goes in different directions but at the end of the day at the end of the seasons they all it all builds up to a few things like the first season they're trying to get to the North Pole and along the way they have a lot of trials and tribulations and then at the end at the end of the season they get to the North Pole and it's not what they wanted it's not exactly what they were hoping for and um there's a huge confrontation with the Fire Nation at long last with their with the enemy Admiral what's it what's his name Zhao yes for saying whatever his name it's got but uh it's speaking they have like a a lot of complexity and the characters a lot of is not just a two-dimensional villain as far as the main villains go so you have a three-dimensional Azula where she seems like there's a manipulator an evil manipulator but you learn that she has problems and she has weaknesses and she has her own priorities and flaws and everything same thing goes for pretty much all the main characters the only one that's really two-dimensional would Ozai he's just a bad guy which is which is fine but he's uh everyone they they focus their narrative structures on everything else for the for their narrative character development on everyone else on the you know the Azulas the the Mai Yang and the gang I think they call it the gang for the as as a group and all the stories all the fleshing out the world building all the good stuff so narrative narratively speaking as a whole it's it's a complete cycle we have the cycles of Aang and his development over time Saka Katara all of them have their own cycles of development maybe the least of all might be Toph but she does change a little bit she does open up she starts off as someone who is standoffish and becomes someone who trusts friends more and trusts other people more and narratively it's sound and it's uh it tells a great story great development every time it ends it ends on something huge it ends on something that's really changes the game and I think it's it's nice a tight story with only three seasons so you have a beginning a middle and an end and there's so much there's a lot of good things about it the relationships the the trials they go through the things they develop it's uh it's overall fantastic work and there we have it that's uh because what what I was trying to obviously achieve with this was to have my grievances is while having someone to advocate for the show and I think the people who are looking for that have have got hopefully what they want because I um I'm really not passionate about avatar so I don't have much of a drive to do anything else I was just I was hoping to talk about some of these things and uh move on to whatever else because I I'm not going to make a video on avatar I uh nor my I might reference it you know in a positive or negative light in future who knows but I don't right like like a I don't have a need to sort of go on go in depth and out like with star wars I get very passionate because I watched that when since I was super young which and all the way up to now and I just so I'm fully invested while this I I literally saw once and it was after many recommendations I really don't have an attachment to it so but I know people wanted to hear what my issues were so hopefully that's that's been done and they've been presented to somebody who very much likes the show and and defended two different degrees so yeah um I guess thank you very much for having this conversation do you want to um talk a bit about your uh well anything you want actually maybe talk about your channel and discover I mean discover literature devil.com I'm not there's a devil.com but literature devil on youtube there is a literature devil.com it's a blog but it's I've scarcely updated I won't update it more but it does exist I do still own the domain I'll say that but at literature devil on youtube and I cover a 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