 anyone who is interested in me or Pekwan or the work we did together, I'm there for them. Candid conversations with me is a very, very special guest. With me is Mahanan Seela. We all came to know mostly about her globally in India and otherwise through this documentary which came out on Netflix in 2017 called Wild Wild Country where she was shown to be the secretary of Osho. She was the spokesperson of the entire movement and she became a viral rage after that. The first question really to start off with is how was life before and after Wild Wild Country? Before it was quiet and now there is more interest in my life which of course makes the people who are interested more important in life at present and it is also rightly so that they should have the importance when you want to know something, you are curious about something and somebody ignores you then it is a waste and I feel that anyone who is interested in me or Pekwan or the work we did together, I'm there for them. Right, right and would you I mean what are your views on whether you think according to you were you depicted accurately in the series or not from whatever I read you haven't seen the series and you said that probably you weren't shown in the best light. I have not seen the series, I have believed Radnish Puran, big difference and as everyone have their opinions about me, about Pekwan, about our work, everyone has their own interpretations of it and prejudices of it. So from that point of view I felt that it won't be dealt with properly or dealt with only with negativity and it has been also unfortunately life's experience with the journalistic situations where people present negative stories because they sell better. We are more hooked on to negativity than positivity. True, true, yeah exactly, negativity cells, controversy cells, no doubt. Also you know after the series came out there was a lot of Bollywood projects which are going to be made on you. There was one which was supposed to be with Alia Bhatt, there was one which was supposed to be with Priyanka Chopra. I think as of right now both of them really either have been shelled or they've been on the back burner but again from what I read I think you preferred that Alia Bhatt would have played the role better other than Priyanka Chopra. Is it because you like her better as an actor? For me, Alia looked similar to me when I was bit young. True. I was younger and Alia is more natural for me. So that is my preference. Beauty has to come out from within, not from without. Very simple people. I was reading about the work that you do in Switzerland which you've been doing for such a long time. You run two care homes for people with degenerative diseases and I think in one of them there is a certain section called the dementia temple. Can you tell us exactly what that is about? Yes, we have this one large room with six beds in it and there we take people with dementia-oriented problems or severe suicide patients or the people who need 24 hours observation and people in our home can stay till the last day of their life. So we want to offer them very warm non-isolating care. What happens in homes these days that a dying person is in a single room. They already suffer with the anxieties of death because nobody teaches them that death is natural. It will come. We all want to live forever and this fear of death can make their life even more like a drudgery. So to avoid these fears we have created this corner. We had to fight for this corner with the government but government understood our point and said yes they accept this and we call it a Demence Mandir and what it has remarkable effect it is right in our entrance on the left side. The people hear people coming going, people our telephones ringing, dogs barking, we are talking and though they are demons they understand this daily noises and this daily noises relaxes them and offers them a possibility to continue to live though it is the end and they can in their relaxation can go easily. In this room we have our administrative team works there. There are three computers going on there is talk on telephones happening and this is what modern man is used to not isolating in one room when people don't even know are they okay they need glass of water or something. It is very dry and cold in single room but warmth of people can do miracles. I think that's a very important concept which you touched upon and also applied because like you said whatever happens in old age or nowadays not even in old age even for young stars and all loneliness is something which really sort of gets you and gives you in a different way. So this is a good concept that they are surrounded with natural sounds, human sounds, animal sounds and everyday sounds which obviously will help them. Now one thing which really came out during the documentary was that you built up Rajneesh Puram and your management style and the way you manage everything. So if you were to give four to three management tips people out there what would you say what tips would you give? First check out your commitment to the project take responsibility don't be too eager to be boss if you are a boss it will come out it may come out after 35 years doesn't matter and respect your team do not ask your team to do something that you would not ask yourself. Okay Manan Sheela just one last question from my side really and it's a sort of a personal question you can feel free to skip it if you want but you know something which you also discussed and talked about it before I'd like to know do you still love Ucho and if yes then why? I love him very much there are no why in love love simply happens and it is a big happening in my life which structured me focused me and I'm still very much focused right I think that's a I know it isn't it's not the answer you're looking for it but that's my reality no in fact on the contrary I think this is a very important answer and I tell you why I think so because of the reason that you know nowadays we talk so much of relationships and breakups and divorces and marriages falling apart and there's a love marriage which was supposed to be made in heaven or whatever and then it doesn't work out after 10, 15, 2 years, 6 months you never know so I think this is a very important perspective which people need to know about the fact that you know even if you had a falling out like between you and also even if you had a falling out there was some miscommunication there was some sort of bad blood involved misunderstandings but at the end of the day what you choose to remember and what you choose to appreciate and understand is the fact that you were in love with him and you are in love with him and the fact that you know how that relationship really helped you in your life I think that is something which people who pursue breakups and divorces that is something to to know that don't only look at the bitter side also remember that you shared such beautiful memories together thank you so much for talking to us there was a huge time difference between Switzerland and here thank you so much for taking out time and talking to us it is my pleasure Kabir