 All right the dynasty wrapped up on Friday and we got the episode that mentions the Malcolm Butler Super Bowl Benching back in 2017. We're still searching for a specific explanation but Robert Kraft offered up more than I ever expected and I thought it was significant. Here's what he said. What has been told to me is that there was something personal going on between Belichick and Malcolm. It was not football related. I always felt that every decision that Bill had made had been to put what was in the best interests of the team first and put emotion aside but with Malcolm he did just the opposite. Okay I think this is a whopper. This is the owner of the team on the record and to this point probably the the singular historical document of that time saying that the Malcolm Butler Benching was because something was going on. In other words a lot of the less sinister explanations that have been thrown at us. We've heard oh he had a concussion. Not a concussion. He had the flu so he wasn't feeling well he missed. It was disciplinary. He missed some practices or some not football related personal emotional so we don't know exactly what it is but now we know that what it is is one of these sort of caddy gossipy stories that we've all heard different incarnations of. That's what it is and the owner told us so. I find that amazing. I thought these episodes were incredible and there was a lot of people that think they gleaned a lot of information from them. Are you kidding me? Episode 97 of the dynasty there was so much that was given to you that you've really never heard or heard from the first time and what you're saying Michael is absolutely true. I mean it's incredible. I mean they don't want ever really from the powers to be there is talked about that issue wanted to comment on that issue and there's Robert Kraft saying that it was personal. Look I've always you I've been on record talking about the vindictiveness or the pettiness of Bill Belichick and I'm sorry there's a part of me that's like you know I'm not I wasn't making that up. I mean that clearly was a petty vindictive irresponsible decision by Bill Belichick in the biggest game and it was nice that somebody in that front office for the Patriots admitted that and told us so. I hate to be the journalistic speed bump here but let me ask you this don't you think there are a couple of follow-up questions missing on this because it is fascinating you're right fascinating Malcolm Butler Robert Kraft says it was what was told to me follow-up question is told to you by whom and follow-up to that is did Bill tell you did you hear this from did you talk to Bill about it because that matters to me because it speaks to the whole dysfunction and the tension did Bill did you ask Bill hey Bill why didn't you play Malcolm Butler or are you just like the rest of us did you have hearsay from another coach another player did are you did you confront your head coach and ask him and I'll do respect because you played a big role in this series and you were great this was in journalism okay oh no oh oh believe me I know this was this was infotainment which I was which I'm all in favor of and the purpose was to blame Bill for what happened at the end of the dynasty so that's what was going on no it was not journalism I know that I said that from the start this was more this was a dramatic this was based on this was based on a book and so they were dramatic elements of things that were left out and some some even some football stuff that fans to the Patriots fans say well why didn't you take that why didn't you take that because that wasn't the purpose of it but if you really want to know what happened with Malcolm Butler don't aren't you curious about what Kraft means by that like why doesn't he know why doesn't the owner know you're right Mike we got this on the record from Robert Kraft but if Robert Kraft is going to go that far shouldn't the owner know more maybe I think he might but he's just that he's not saying I don't think I just think it would be very irresponsible of Robert Kraft and I just can't imagine Robert Kraft throwing out the term personal if he didn't know for a fact right was a person that's that's Belichick would never forgive him he said it was told to me but out there we're phrasing though we're phrasing they've all signed NDAs they're not they're not allowed to say what happened they've all agreed not to say what happened I mean we have this is obvious by this point so how far can Kraft go this is how far he can go someone told to me that it was personal and non-football that doesn't give any specifics probably doesn't violate any agreement but give you just enough to know that it was both you know that that shouldn't have happened and that was on bill and again that Robert was willing to go there I find it fascinating also the key tenet of this whole thing is that Kraft wants to give himself credit for keeping this thing together I don't give him as much as he wants to give himself but you do Ted you think Kraft does deserve that credit I do I mean it was hammered throughout the last two episodes that it was you know he played a key part in keeping them together and I I really think he did I think the last four or five years Robert Kraft was the conduit between the two and in the buffer and I think he had a huge part in kind of keeping Tom engaged in signing contracts and still wanting to kind of re-up so if it comes down to you know look I don't know if they win those last two Super Bowls if you know obviously if Tom Brady's not on this team they're not and I think Robert Kraft had a huge part in just keeping Tom here enough to kind of overcome what he was dealing with with Belichick I'll give him credit for that so if I'm going to give him credit for that then he's got to be a part of the whole operation though too can't say well well Bill did this and Bill did that and if you kept it together then you are a part of the problems that you speak of you're a part of that too like you said it you don't like Bill making Tom go off to Tampa but then on on the record he says I said to Tommy I'll make it so you can go so you you didn't say you must stay you kind of you you you provided runway for Tom Brady to leave now you're blaming Belichick for getting them out of there the person I've always given credit to for keeping it together is Brady himself okay they're not many quarterbacks who accomplished what he accomplished that wouldn't have demanded the big contract which he never did till the very end or would have put up with the way Bill treated them most superstar quarterbacks want to be coddled and they want to be highly paid and if Brady wanted either of those things there's nothing Kraft could have done no Brady was willing to take the treatment and that's why it stood and that was that's what made the whole ecosystem work that was why the Patriots had as much success as they had the whole time it's because of the dynamic you just said Tom Brady was willing to take all of that and sacrifice himself for the good of everybody and as soon as he wasn't as soon as Giselle got into him and let him know his worth and sort of maybe changed his worldview as soon as Brady wasn't willing to accept it that's when it fell apart and there's nothing Kraft could have done about it real quickly why do you think uh Bill couldn't admit that he was wrong on on Brady like it was clear it was he was wrong he brought in Jimmy Garoppolo Brady had a lot more left than Bill thought he did why couldn't he admit it because it'd be the first time he's ever admitted he was wrong in anything that's exactly that's pretty much it simple as that