 Hi, I'm Alan Footman. I'm a sports tour operator from Cape Town. My family and I have been living in the Southern suburbs for 21 years. What we love about the neighbourhood is it's very family orientated. Lots of things for the kids to do, especially where we are next to the farm, where folk can walk the dog, go for runs and enjoy the fresh air. In the Southern suburbs, we're lucky enough to have some of the top schools in the country and on top of that we have the University of Cape Town, one of the most famous universities in the world. Newlands is a great suburb. All the sporting amenities, Newlands rugby ground, cricket ground, etc. Down the road to Claremont, lots of shopping centres for the kids and for the mothers to do their shopping. Fantastic pubs and restaurants around like Forreys, Springbok Bar. Bishop's Court is full of beautiful upmarket homes. Kirstenbosch Gardens, National Botanical Gardens, right next door. What attracted us to Constantia is the large open spaces. I've always wanted to be a farmer and now I'm living next to Constantia Wine Estate, the oldest wine farm in the country, where we have fantastic wines, great restaurants, got the best of both worlds. My family and I have loved every moment of living in Constantia. We couldn't be happier and this is our neighbourhood. Good evening and welcome to episode 30 of the Private Property Podcast. I'm your host, Zaman Dunwo. We are on day 57 of the national lockdown. I can't believe we actually made it to episode 30. When we started off, we're just going to be a weekend property podcast and now we're coming to you daily at 7 o'clock, of course, bringing you the latest in all your property matters. And this evening, we're going to be looking at five things that landlords can and cannot do during this lockdown. We've seen a lot of, you know, we've received quite a lot of questions from tenants and even landlords asking about some of the things that they cannot or cannot do. Some tenants are saying, you know, some of their landlords are cutting off water and electricity. They're asking whether they can get evicted and really to help us unpack what can and cannot be done this evening. We'll be speaking to Bruno Smao, who's a founding attorney at Bruno Smao Attorneys. And before we get there, of course, we are running a live competition right here on Private Property. And of course, you can always, if you want to enter that competition, all you need to do is download the app, make sure that you take that screenshot, share it down below, and we'll be sure to select the lucky winner who stands, who will be winning 1,000 rounds. And of course we're going to be drawing two lucky winners. So it's not just one person. So your odds really are higher. So of course, if you tune in, then do download the app, make sure to take that screenshot and we'll be announcing that two lucky winners will be walking away with 1,000 rounds just before the end of the show. I'd love to get 1,000 rounds. I mean, look, I can't enter. But of course, all the best to everybody at home who's going to be entering for the show to announce that winner before the show is. But before we get to all the fun stuff, we must of course talk about what we can and cannot do during this national lockdown. We are on level four and of course, there are different things that are possible and not possible to help us understand what is what. I'm joined by Bruno Smao. Bruno, thank you so much for joining us this evening. Good evening and thank you for having me. So I think maybe let's just start with, I mean, when we saw, you know, going from level five to level four, we also saw that there were different rules that were gazetted in the government gazette around what can and cannot be done just in terms of general movement. So to certain viewers at home who perhaps are not that away, if you could just, you know, very briefly take us through what is possible because we know that we're at least able to move. And like in level four with that wasn't something that was actually possible for us to do. So perhaps explain to our audience, to our viewers at home rather, you know, what we can and cannot do in terms of our movement. Absolutely. All right. So maybe just to begin with, to place it in context, level five restricted all movement, except for essential workers. So with the introduction of level four, there is certain restrictions allowed certain permitted persons to get back into the swing of things, especially to stimulate the economy. Under the specific regulations that came out, as soon as level four started at the beginning of May, they did make provision in the regulations and regulation 16 subsection five to allow a relocation of a person from one area to another, be it across districts or provinces, whatever the case might be, they did allow relocation to get people back to where they were supposed to be. Why was that relevant? What happened is people anticipate the lockdown was going to last three weeks. So I know of clients that decided, ooh, I'm going to go on a little holiday now, I'm going to book a place somewhere. We're going to drive through there and it's going to be an awesome three weeks away from everyone. But when all of a sudden, there was an extension, people started realizing, oh, geez, what are we doing now? And then what started happening is people had to start getting back to work. How did they get back to work? They couldn't. So this easing of movement, a lot for a window period, for a certain period of time for people to go back to the places where they were residing. Now there was a lot of confusion with this because it was, oh, go back, but can I go to a property where I signed a lease prior to this but I hadn't moved in yet? What's the situation with that? And there was a lot of confusion. But then a couple of days later, a new directive was promulgated in terms of that regulation saying, okay, hold on guys, right. So you know what, it's okay. We're going to allow a greater movement of this. So we're going to allow tenants, we're going to allow people to move in in terms of certain lease agreements. But even there, they had a restriction. So a couple of the days later, they released another directive and now they made life easier. So everything, all that context meant nothing at that point because the reality was now they said, all right, we understand that people need to move around in terms of lease agreements. So this is something we're allowing. So if you enter into a lease right now and you need to move somewhere, it's absolutely allowable. It's not a problem. You're free to move provided that you have a lease agreement. There's a number of, there are a number of qualifications to this. So it's a provision of a lease or that you bought a property or that a property has been transferred into your name or domestic violence issues. But for us as many of us in the property industry as property owners, we normally look at lease agreements and transfer of ownership. And under these circumstances now one can enter into a lease and move into a new place of residence if you so wish. So, you know, I actually want to pick up on that last point that you made because the previous time, and this was, of course, before an updated version of the rules had been promulgated. The provision was that you could, you could move in the event where you had signed a lease agreement by a certain period. So back then you essentially couldn't go and look for new tenants and enter into a new lease agreement. And of course for that episode we had hats on the same and also made us understand that actually the lease agreements that are essentially in place are those that were entered into before, you know, the lockdown period and up to a certain point. So essentially now what you're saying is that in the event where you want to be moving or you want to enter into a new lease agreement, the latest promulgated rules essentially say that we're able to do so. Absolutely. So that restriction, it used to be the 30th of April. So there was a lease entered into prior to that point. It's gone. So now you're allowed to, you're allowed to freely assign new lease agreements and move into new residents. And I mean, I remember the previous rules, you, we could move until the 7th of June. And I think if we now kind of look at the different updates that we're getting from, from government, some, some of us certainly in Haudenosa expecting to perhaps go down to level three next week, we're all just crossing our fingers. Is there a deadline in terms of when this particular movement or can essentially happen. So is it still movement until the 7th of June, or is it essentially between now and if they update, otherwise we are free to enter into new lease agreements and move into our new places of residence. So it's a level four provision. So everything is done now specifically within level four. The assumption obviously being that when level three kicks in, that it's going to be a lot easier to move around. And if level five comes back, then obviously these, this ease of movement is going to cease as well. So it's, it's basically level four until we hear otherwise. Okay, that's perfect. Now, of course we are, if you're watching us at home, taking your questions and comments around whether you're a tenant or a landlord and you essentially confused about what you can or cannot do. As I was saying earlier, we've got so many different questions from views at home who are either tenants and landlords wanting to, to, to find out what is possible or what isn't possible. Certain landlords have gone and, you know, whether cut electricity or wanting to end these agreements. So I really want to get a better understanding of whether or not we are even able to do that, but also understanding that there's still legal parameters with under which we essentially function. So you can't now kind of act as though we can't act as though we're in the, in the wild west. So of course, if you do have any questions and comments to send them through and Bruno will be addressing them, Bruno, we've already got a question in from Antonette to pay to ask, does my landlord have the right to evict me during this time of this lockdown? I haven't paid rent for two months and no work, no pay. All right. So I was supposed to start right at the beginning. It's, and this is a perception. This is a perception issue that, that I'm experiencing a lot with the clients. And it's understandable because level five came in and it changed our entire outlook on how to deal with things like this. And everyone suddenly started working on assumptions that nothing is normal anymore and started exploring what is. And what I'm telling my clients now and colleagues and everyone else is we need to take a step back and we need to change this assumption, this perception. And instead of looking at the negative and trying to figure out what is still around, we need to go back to the way that we were in our mindset prior to lockdown and then try to figure out what's still cannot be done. And that's a lot easier because there's a lot, there's a lot more things that have now stayed the same under level four and that we can now work under level four as opposed to doing it the other way around and trying to move backwards. So what is the position before level four? If, if a person staying in your property, for example, especially in terms of a residential leases, commercial leases are slightly different. So in terms of residential leases that are liable for rent. Why? Because they're enjoying occupation of the property. This is, this is a known fact is we've, it's been around the news, we've said it a million times and fortunately rent is payable. So what are the remedies for landlord in a situation where rent is not paid? They're the same as they were before lockdown. So if rent isn't paid, the tenant will be in breach of the agreement. So by being in breach of the agreement, the landlord can make an election on whether to cancel the agreement, indulge the late payment, whatever the case is. So legally speaking, the landlord can enforce the payment of rent. If, if he tries to enforce the payment of rent and for some reason the tenant still doesn't pay, he can cancel the lease agreement. So obviously he has to give proper notice. He needs to cancel the lease agreement and he can proceed to go to court. Now obviously amongst these, there are certain difficulties. Like for example, delivering a letter of demand might be made slightly difficult because now you can't just travel and drive around whenever you want. So you'd have to work slightly harder to deliver, but you can deliver and it will count. Summons very similar. And the courts are a bit slow in process, but can you deliver a summons? Yes, you can. It just takes a bit of extra effort to get the summons from court to the tenant's place of residence. Eviction proceedings very similar. If you can institute them, if you can get them served, you can proceed with them. However, with the eviction proceedings, there is one but. And this but is in terms of regulation 19, it's made very clear that we can proceed with evictions. However, the execution of these eviction orders are going to be stayed and suspended until, until, until stated otherwise. So until level four is done with. And so what that means is if you have a court order in front of you, you can get a court order. The court order can say that an eviction is allowed. However, by when you hand it to the sheriff, the sheriff will tell you, unfortunately, we cannot do anything about this right now. So the enforcement is unfortunately hampered there, but the actual obtaining of a court order is allowed. So this is from the landlord side of things. So to answer your viewers question, now from the tenant side of things. A tenant can be vectored. However, they can't actually be removed from the property. Right. It's not allowed under, it's not allowed under the rule, under the regulations. What I see with tenants, especially is we all in a situation now where we need to start working with each other. It's unprecedented times. We need to start negotiating. So I have seen more often than not landlords will will grant indulgences because no one wants to go to court. No one wants to do eviction applications, especially when there's no value in doing an eviction application. If you can't at this moment evict someone. So you'd only do it in exceptional circumstances where the tenant is being extremely difficult. So can you evict someone? You can get an order. Would you want to evict someone? That's a different question. And I think there you would need to negotiate with the tenant and actually be able to come up with some sort of resolution on how to best deal with this. And really, we've got another question here from our viewers at home. This one is coming in from Desiree Rano, who asks, once deferred payment has been agreed upon and the tenant defaults, what is my recourse as the landlord? Look, it's very similar to the normal principles of contract law. So again, nothing would differ. So we can take COVID out of this. There was a deferment agreement. The deferment took one month's rent or two months rent and split it over a period of time. So first of all, one needs to look at the wording of the deferment agreement. So most of the agreements would be drafted so that you take one month and let's say you split it up over the next two after that. So a rental of 6,000, for example, would be 3,000 following month and 3,000 after that. Many of these agreements would require that the first payment be made, failing which the full amount becomes due. So it would be the 3,000. But if you felt paid at first 3,000, you'd have to now make up the 6,000. And in terms of that agreement, it's due. And that being due will allow someone to actually go to court and enforce it and collect it in terms of legal proceedings. Again, is that ideal? It is depending on the tenant or the relationship with the tenant that you have. Is the tenant still paying his rent? He just failed to pay the area rent. That's also a very important question because that could also lead to a situation where you might want to negotiate and allow further deferment provided that he's paying his current rent. It's simply the past rent that he may be needed a bit of an indulgence on. Of course, I am on the line with Bruno Smiles, the founding attorney at Bruno Smiles Attorneys. And we're looking at the far things landlords can and cannot do during this lockdown, especially during level 4 restrictions. If you're watching us at home and you've got any questions, whether you're a tenant or a landlord, and you're still a bit uncertain about what can or cannot be done, please do send through those questions. Of course, on Fridays, we have that Q&A session where we bring in experts to help us understand a particular issue better. We're going to go for a quick break and after the break, we're going to be taking more of your questions. Of course, if you are watching, you still have time to enter that competition. If you want to stand a chance of winning 1,000 rands, we'll be giving away to 1,000 rands. So two lucky winners are going to be winning at the end of the show. All you have to do is follow the prompts that we've posted just below. And that is, of course, downloading the chat and sharing and tagging your friends. And then we'll be able to announce those two lucky winners at the end of the show. For more of your questions and comments, we'll be answering them just after this break. I'm back to episode 30 of the Private Property Podcast. I'm your host, Zaman Dunwa Qumalu. It's a Friday. So, of course, we are asking private property. And the topic this evening is the five things landlords can and cannot do during this lockdown. Of course, we're looking at level five. And we're going to be having them somebody else. You know, the government can understand and understand what we cannot do. I'm joined by Bruno Samao, who is the founding attorney. And Bruno, before the break, we're taking more questions and comments from our viewers at home. One of the questions we've been receiving quite a bit is around utilities and whether landlords can simply cut water and electricity because they are now, we are month that they're defaulting and some of them are getting desperate they think you know if I cut utilities right now then perhaps my tenant would move out and that would give me an opportunity to get in a new tenant. Can landlords actually do that? So the answer to this question is no and it's been no even long before lockdown took place. So again we're going back to prior to lockdown that situation hasn't changed this yet. The landlord is not allowed to cut off water and electricity unless it's by a court order and that's very important so it's not to say that you cannot do something it's to say that you cannot take the law into your own hands and do it without asking a court's permission. That's most of the time that's why landlords actually install prepaid meters on properties in order to be able to regulate this better but in situations where there is no prepaid meter the only way to enforce some sort of switch off of power is to go to court and ask the court for a court order allowing you to do so. I do know obviously of situations where if a landlord does let a property to a tenant that happens to be directly linked to the municipality there are situations where the municipality may make a switch off the power where it's not really in the landlord's hands. Although I haven't seen many situations now recently where the municipality is switching off power because I think they are mindful of the fact that there is a lockdown so they're playing their part in making sure there aren't any disconnections but I may be wrong obviously I can't speak for the entire country but as far as the landlord is concerned he cannot do it without a court order but will he be able to obtain a court order in the current in the current circumstances it's a little bit difficult because we've been asking this question quite a bit and again I haven't seen many examples of it. I have there is an application that a body corporate is making at this moment to switch off power to a owner that's not paying levies and we are confident that in these circumstances will be granted because these utility charges keep accumulating quite drastically whether landlord will be able to achieve the same result right now it's possible there's nothing necessary that says you cannot but this would be in the hands of the court and I am finding naturally that the courts are being very very cautious and they're being very sympathetic to the needs of the tenants which is understandable so obtaining those orders might might not be that easy and I think you know one of the things that we certainly have to be mindful of of course is we don't know how long this is going to last right so I think cutting off utilities it may just happen that that tenant may not be able to secure alternative accommodation so I can understand even why the court would probably be particularly lenient because trying to find alternative accommodation given the you know the the environment that we find ourselves in right now is going to be quite tricky we could very well be in this position until the end of the year so and it's a bit of that you know cash to you too situation because on the one hand you certainly understand where the landlord is coming from because he's thinking well the the tenant is staying there and their electricity and water bill is going high and higher they're already not paying their rental and they're also not able to cover the utilities but in the same breath they've been affected by this you know pandemic whether they've you know lost their income completely or partially because of course we've seen those mass retrenchments in different sectors across the country I was going to comment here coming in from one of our views at a home you know on this issue of evictions and it's actually the cash to you too situation that a lot of tenants and landlords find themselves in this one is coming in from Marupi in it Josephine who says a tenant can be evicted when there is no payment during a certain period of time the landlord has arrived to do whatever they want since there is no money coming in remember bills have to be paid of course that isn't completely true because I think they saw the legal ambulance under which the landlord has to essentially operate by isn't that and this is such a difficult conversation to have and I think you hit the nail perfectly on the head with this I obviously as an attorney I've got a lot of clients that are landlords so most of my conversations are towards landlords and that's not to say that I'm not sympathetic to the plight of a tenant but it is just difficult because if you look at it legally within the confines of our law the reality is the tenant is liable and there's no real two ways about it and this there's an engagement in the negotiation the tenant is liable commercial leases like I mentioned are slightly different because of the concepts like force majeure and whether actual trading is still taking place but that's a different conversation if you're enjoying occupation you're living in somebody's residence the reality behind it is you're enjoying it but they're not receiving any benefit from your enjoyment there's a level of enrichment here there's there's a breach of contract and I suppose that's the downside it's not to say that I'm it's you know speaking against the tenants but the reality is within the confines the landlord does have a right to collect rent and your viewer was correct and saying look we are entitled but it has to be within the ambit of the law and from a tenant's perspective the reality is you do need to engage if there is a retrenchment we we all do need to work together approach the landlord speak to them don't just refuse to pay because that that unfortunately is lighting the fire and and igniting and antagonizing the landlord to the point where that relationship is very quickly going to deteriorate that engagement is very important but that's all I can really say for the benefit of the tenant at this moment we've got a slightly different question this one coming in from Derelt after who asks can repairs be done during lockdown especially when you rent there's some issues in the place and the landlord is not keeping his end off the bargain but I'm still paying rent so um so the reality with this is it depends so there is nothing specific in the regulations that define uh necessary what repairs can and can't be done but we are looking at I so I know for example if you look at plumbing and the supply of electricity those have always been allowed because they are considered to be essential that they they essential to just the general day-to-day living so that those have always been allowed but for example cosmetic changes those don't fall under the regulations so if you look for example at where the construction is allowed under the regulations they say only essential construction would be allowed a certain infrastructure obviously around the mining sector but not just general tiling or painting so it really depends on the nature of the the work that needs to be done or the damage or condition of the property if your um if your plumbing isn't working yes you can call a plumber the landlord is obliged to call a plumber on behalf of the tenant needs to get sorted out if it's electricity supply like for example just actual electric installations absolutely security absolutely for if you get broken into and the burglar bars get ripped off the wall you can get somebody in if the sensors aren't working great you can get somebody in if you've got a crack tile sorry it's that's not really what the purpose of the regulation is so that you'd have to hold back on and just work uh comment coming in from Stephanie Woodboy who says very tough for both parties I believe communication is key so both parties are understood and a way forward is decided and of course it's you know something that we've been emphasizing you know throughout these conversations the very first episode that we did right here on the private property podcast was between Zerchimieza and Gilles Berling but we're looking at the types of conversations that certainly landlords and tenants should be having because we could already foresee that there was going to be tension that there was going to be quite a lot of um you know question marks from both parties and that we're potentially I mean at the time we thought we were going to be in this for 21 days we're already seeing certain companies retrenching we certainly didn't think that we'd be here 57 days later and the the the retrenchment would be you know at such a large scale and so many people's jobs would be affected so from as early on as back then we're saying open communication is so crucial and being able to attend to each other meet each other halfway is also such a crucial thing but then of course in the event where that is not possible because I think we we've been speaking a lot of best-case scenarios and really appealing to people's humanity and saying look we really are all in this together um this this is one of those things that is in many ways becoming a bit of an equalizer a lot of all of us are stuck at home for the most part um and this of course some people are essential service workers and they're able to go home and even they're essentially affected because even companies are you know decreasing people's salary but in the event where landlords um are finding themselves with let's say tenants who are not paying on time or even better a tenant who is paying on time but landlords are also not providing the necessary services what can each party essentially do and I want us to focus a little bit first on what a tenant can do in the event where the landlord isn't being responsive so suppose you're trying to communicate that you're being retrenched or your finances are being affected and they're simply not responding um you know what can they do in situations like that absolutely okay so from look from a tenant side it's slightly difficult and I suppose we have to break that question up into two so um if a landlord is failing to fulfill these obligations uh obviously the tenant has rights in terms of those circumstances so again the examples that we gave were is security breaches electrical installations plumbing um in situations like that forget COVID the same rules apply and a tenant can force the landlord to resolve it or take action take action in order to remedy it and action for example many leases do it would allow a situation where if it is urgent that a tenant can resolve the issue themselves and can then claim this from from the landlord so the cost of repairs that the landlord refuses to undertake a tenant can go and try and collect this from from the landlord so that is certainly possible and a right that the tenant has in so far as communication um you know pursuant to retrenchment is concerned unfortunately in those instances again our law doesn't cover a situation of hardship so as a tenant despite the fact that you might be in a very hard situation not be able to pay the rent the lease agreement still has to be complied with and this is specifically allows for some sort of indulgence in those circumstances which i can promise you 99.9% of leases wouldn't so in those situations i'm sorry to say but if you've tried to communicate with the landlord and the landlord isn't engaging with you it is it is a very difficult situation but in turn on paper the tenant doesn't have any rights in that respect but again now there's a but to that sorry yeah no to continue Bruno so there's a but to that and this is something that uh my colleagues still stay and we've had quite a few conversations about this and it's the concept of our Ubuntu right and in our law the fact that um that this principle should actually be woven into the way that we draft our contracts the way that we read our legislation and in a situation like this one would expect that right to come to the fore and people to almost be forced to engage in order to assist others within reason so it is very interesting unfortunately there's not enough case law to kind of support an opinion on whether this is going to be an enforceable right but there is a school of thought to say well the landlord at least has an obligation to engage to consider uh to put his his story out there and explain why he cannot afford to to give a remission of rent or to discount rent or to defer rent because of his circumstances and let's face it a lot of landlords are sometimes getting payment plans from the bank so there might be opportunity for some landlords to be able to do that not all uh some of them rely on income so depending on the circumstances this concept of Ubuntu could really come in and play a role uh but at the moment it's still a very kind of vague concept and focusing on the letter of the law unfortunately there is nothing that really forces a landlord to engage the last question Bruno for this evening is coming in from Korea and Lee Sidris who asks can landlords increase their rent during this time if if in any other time they wouldn't have so the latter part of that question is difficult to decipher it so if we just look back again and we forget COVID the reality is there's a contract that's in place and if the contract provides for escalation clause then in terms of the contract one would be allowed to to increase the rent it's it's quite as simple as that if a person wouldn't be entitled to do it under other times or other circumstances then it's it's doubtful that they would be able to do it now because the contract wouldn't provide for it if for example it's a month-to-month contract and the landlord tries to increase it now all of a sudden he can do it because he all he has to do is give you the 30 days notice and you're allowed to vacate and into another lease if you if you if you want to so I suppose he can do it so to answer the can he yes should he or is it wise to I mean aside from the fact that we're trying to work together to achieve certain results here the reality is the market isn't that great so the increasing rent now makes no sense on a commercial perspective it's highly doubtful you're going to be able to get tenants who aren't struggling everyone's struggling if at all you should probably be considering decreasing the rent not increasing it but again supply and demand so that would really depend on that would depend on the landlord Bruno we're going to leave it there this evening thank you so much for joining us there was Bruno smile who is the founding attorney at Bruno smile attorneys and of course we're looking at the far things landlords can and cannot do during this lockdown particularly within the level four restriction I think that really big thing that even Bruno has been emphasizing and that of course we have been emphasizing throughout the different episodes is that we have to attempt to find ways to meet each other halfway then we're all struggling in in different ways as home owners as landlords but equally our tenants are also you know going through a very difficult time financially and otherwise so we almost need to find different ways as both parties to meet each other halfway and really try to find a solution so that post-covid we're able to to still maybe you know your tenant in the event where the lease is still in place they're able to stay there and I think we've been you know even talking about the cost of even getting a new tenant and just how high that is so really you want to take care of the tenants is particularly the good tenants that you've had as much as possible Bruno thank you so much for joining us this evening absolutely pleasure thank you for having me and of course I did promise that we were going to be announcing the winners 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