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Tengan se alejado de las puertas This is the daily tech news for Tuesday July 21st 2015 on Tom Merritt joining me today, mr. Patrick Bay official DTNS contributor and official independent podcaster de Paris I Like the way you're saying that Although I have to say I was taken aback a little bit because he started the show without asking if I was ready first So I'm not sure I am and you're changing up my routine Tom I Well, I would assume that all I would hear is I was born ready and so that is correct You're still born ready and that hasn't changed That's true you got me married permanent state Alright, we are going to talk about something we got some great feedback from folks on Twitter and Google Plus So thank you for that. We're gonna talk about something that Neelai Patel kicked off on the verge later today Is the mobile web actually useless? That's gonna be our main discussion But let's start off with some headlines People of St. Louis County on the same highway you take to Forest Park the Galleria Frontenac Plaza and Chesterfield Mall Hackers disabled a Jeep Cherokee driven by wired reporter Andy Greenberg killing the transmission and Changing the channel to hip hop This happened under state 64 when you said killing the transmission. I really had a gas there You said killing a little bit the transmission But the kicker is they changed the channel to hip hop on Charlie Miller and Chris Velasek were 10 miles away demonstrating a wireless exploit that they will discuss at black hat The exploit allows them to engage or disable brakes kill the engine and more It works by finding the IP address of the car through Chrysler's you connect service And they have a special way that they do that Rewriting the firmware of the entertainment systems chip making it capable of sending commands to the car's internal network What they call the can bus if you know that sort of thing that's the part they're not gonna tell people how they did They also responsibly disclose this to Chrysler and Chrysler has issued a patch for the hack as of July 16th So if you are driving at Chrysler with you connect you should go to your dealer or get it on a USB stick and Update your car as soon as possible Patrick this is this is disconcerting to say the least right You know, I I don't think we've heard about this specific type of hack before right I don't think anyone has been able to take control of some of the essential systems of a car Remotely in that way before no, I think the only thing that was be able to be done wirelessly Was unlocking the doors there have been hacks demonstrated for that But all of these other sorts of things like controlling the transmission and the brakes They have been demonstrated but only when wired in and the car companies kind of poo-pooed that and dismissed it like well Yeah, but you have to be wired into the car, you know You got you got bigger problems if a hacker sitting in your car with their laptop plugged in and now these two Security researchers Charlie Miller and Chris Philasek are saying okay. You didn't take us seriously before so we too Stepped up to the challenge and now we've showed that you really need better security in your cars pay attention car makers And what's really frightening to me is that we we know and I think we've seen demonstrated Over the years that the governments often have access to these kinds of exploits Way before the civil society or often have access to these these types of hacks before civil society Finds them out. So is it reasonable to think that? government agencies might have been using these types of things to provoke Accidents, maybe you know in those now come Scenarios, I don't know. I don't know about that. I was with you. I was like, it's not unreasonable To suspect that the government might use this for tracking. I wasn't thinking about you know making a car flip over But but but but maybe it's a small percentage, but they're that could be a possibility Right. I mean when you look at the hacking team dump and you see that the hacking team had all manner of Vulnerabilities that were not public knowledge. It makes you wonder the you know since the Snowden leaks I think I've taken as a rule to never put anything out of the realm of possibility And also maybe it's because I've been watching the Americans the TV show Well, and here's the thing here's the reason that my brain doesn't go there is I assume That you need to have as much security as possible at all times because you don't know what the bad actors whether it's a government or Private team or an advanced persistent threat. You don't know what they're capable of So you shouldn't assume because you haven't heard of something that it couldn't exist And so you it's always a balance of what do I think the possibilities are that someone will come after this? Particular system and what should I do in response to that as a as an individual you have to realize You know you have to take stock of yourself and say okay How likely is it that somebody's really gonna hack into my laptop and turn the camera on on me and and do I want to take measures about that if you're a car maker though all you need is one instance of this to happen And you're in deep trouble, so you want to lock that down now It is not worth your money savings not to prevent this sort of thing from happening Agreed. All right. Let's move on to Twitter that removed wallpaper images from its web users timelines and Notification page Monday according to the verge wallpaper can still be seen on individual tweet pages list pages and collections pages Twitter has not given a reason for the change I mean, do you think Twitter is just baiting the internet at this point? Like well, let's just look we're gonna pull off your profiles We're gonna see we're gonna see how much rage can we cause because there are some people very upset about this I don't know where on the rage scale. It's reached yet It honestly people you will find people angry about anything so I don't know that this is actually an issue But I yeah again, we could discuss this at length I'm not I wasn't a huge fan of those wallpapers, but it does make the pages look a little bit barren now So maybe they have an alternative coming. Maybe yeah, maybe there's another shoe gonna drop Maybe it's all gonna be shoe wallpaper, you know and gadget passes an inside sources report along that Google Facebook eBay Dell HP And other tech companies submitted a friend of the court brief an amicus brief July 1st Supporting Samsung in their case against Apple. They're defending themselves against Apple actually Apple won a one billion dollar award For Samsung's infringement of several patents including tap to zoom and single finger scrolling among others The Court of Appeals lowered that billion dollar amount if you remember to 548 million earlier this year, but it's still based on the total profits made off of the infringing devices and the brief Argues that basing the award on total profits of an infringing device doesn't make sense since the infringements were only a part of the device Geek wire sites the Wall Street Journal Report that Audi BMW and Daimler AG are about to pull the trigger on their team purchase of Nokia's here digital mapping service The journal claims uber dropped out of the bidding weeks ago Meanwhile, Ricode claims its sources say Nokia will announce a virtual reality project at a VIP event in Los Angeles next week and to that the question becomes who is not announcing of the virtual reality project these days Yeah, seriously, I would now uber is gonna announce Virtual reality project because they've got all this money saved from not buying Nokia here Yeah, it was most interesting to me that uber dropped out of the bidding because I thought that was a really interesting acquisition for them Although it makes sense for the car companies to want to buy this as well I kind of wish Nokia would hold on to it. I don't know why that's sort of an irrational wish But I'm kind of rooting for Nokia a little bit as an underdog and it's such a good product for them to have but I guess You know, they they can only keep so much And and they've got a they got to pay for this virtual reality project now Yeah, it seems like, you know, if it's a joint purchase by Audi BMW and Daimler The price is probably or I would assume the price is what drove Uber out of the bidding process and as much as I think it would be interesting for new Nokia to keep the here service I'm not sure it fits with their Strategy, so would they rather have a cool critically acclaimed here mapping service? Or a huge bag of money that they can do other stuff with and focus on Design of things like virtual reality and handsets and yeah, now you're right. That makes sense And and by the way Audi BMW and Daimler said if have apparently again, and this is all according to sources Will allow others to buy in after the acquisition. So they're they're looking for more partners as well Fortune notes that the Wall Street Journal everybody's getting their stuff from the Wall Street Journal Wall Street Journal says Apple has hired Doug Betz former head of global quality at Fiat Chrysler It's the latest in a string of high quality auto experts that Apple has hired Wall Street Journal believes a secret project code named Titan Is an Apple branded electric car and and they keep hiring car experts So it gives some validity that Apple's definitely doing something with cars Project Titan Patrick. I know you can't comment on it. Oh wait, that was the other project What do you think? I mean I have been a skeptic about Apple actually creating a car I'm like they're gonna create an in an in-car system I don't know that Apple actually has decided what they want to do yet either But it they certainly are bringing enough enough people to create a lot of the parts of a car even if it's not an entire car itself I would say that we're starting to get into There's not Smoke without fire territory kind of we're on the verge of that so It seems pretty clear now that they're definitely not doing something that has to do with cars a Whole car. I'm a big Apple fan I'm not I'm not seeing it, but who knows you know, we I mean everyone says well You weren't expecting them to do a phone back when they announced the iPhone But I think it makes more sense for a computer company to create a phone because phones were becoming computers I'm not sure that it translates that well into cars even though they are getting more and more like computers I don't know. I I think there's a path forward there, which is they didn't create the phone, right? They hired Foxconn to create the phone they designed. Maybe that's what they're up to Not quite as as a hundred percent design as the phone was where they just handed it over and said, please manufacture it Maybe what they're wanting to do is say, okay car companies who wants to who wants to make our car? We have a design and we know you you know beyond telematics and stuff You can make sort of the baser parts of the car that makes it run like the combustion engine, etc Or if it's an electric maybe But they partner up with a car manufacturer to make an Apple car That would make sense to me. Hmm. I'm still skeptical, but we'll see Fortune reports that around two dozen tech companies led by Google launched the cloud Native Computing Foundation Tuesday the foundation centers around the use of Google kubernetes Is that how you pronounced it? We checked before the show and I already forgot Someone who is showing this off on stage said kibernities. So Kibernities. All right, let's go with that So the Google kibernities system for scheduling application containers on a large scale IBM Intel VMware Cisco Docker and more are part of the foundation Amazon and Microsoft are not Kibernities 1.0 is to be released at us con in Portland this week I've open source con so this is this is Google, you know trying to be a good citizen going open source and taking on Azure and Amazon web services all in the process and containers are the hottest right now and Everybody's all about the containers TechCrunch reports a study from the mobile association of India and KPMG estimates There will be 500 million internet users in India by 2017 currently. There are 350 million internet users India has a population of around 1.25 billion Inexpensive smartphones and affordable 2g and expanded 3g service are going to drive the growth according to the survey India is second behind China in the total number of internet users in the world But with only a penetration of 19% so there's room for them to grow and grow big BizTech Africa reports Africa's biggest lender standard bank has expanded instant money payments to Botswana and Uganda As it rolls out the service across the continent instant money lets customers send cash to anyone by text message The recipient who doesn't need to be a bank customer Uses an access code and pin to withdraw money from a standard bank ATM It's a it's an interesting. It's different than what you often hear about within PASA Where you're just transferring it into accounts using the phone this one actually lets you go to an ATM and draw out cash And it's been very popular in South Africa from what I've heard Yeah with that that aspect of it the fact that you don't even need a bank account is really key The next web reports sonovation announced its method of putting ultrasonic biometric sensors under gorilla glass I think they're even bonded to the glass In other words your whole screen can be a fingerprint reader. So When will we see this to show up in phones sonovation? Oh, hey, did they mention it works with wet and dirty fingers? And then they ran out they didn't want to give us a release date yet Really cool if this actually if this actually works in practice. Yeah, I you know I think we would be really nice to get rid of the bevel on on the phones so that you know Everything works on the screen It's just a screen and then it becomes just a piece of paper And then you can fold it and put it in your tiny lighter pocket of your jeans. Am I seeing too far there? No, I like your vision actually It is a Battlestar Galactica's, you know sequel vision, but yeah, yeah, yeah We got earnings man. We got earnings all over the place Apple shared its Q3 2015 earnings results reporting revenue of 49 billion and 10.7 billion in profit during the last quarter. This is the first quarter to include Apple watch sales Revenue was 49.6 billion versus the 49.4 billion expected earnings per share was a dollar 85 up 45 percent analysts had expected a dollar 81 Did they say how many Apple watches sold sort of? iPhone units sold forty seven point five million they expected forty eight point eight So it's a little bit short other revenue, which does include the first Apple watch had sales of two point six four billion up from One point seven seven billion a year ago when the Apple when Apple did not include the watch or beats Was not part of of the company at that point. So some of that's headphones some of that's watches iPad units 10.9 million versus 10.9 million expected Mac units. They expected 4.9 million got 4.8 million They expected 51.06 billion in revenue And they got 49 billion Apple stocks down for 7% after hours trading also Microsoft reported revenue of 22.2 billion and adjusted earnings per Share of 62 cents analysts reported 56 cents a share and revenue of 22.06 billion windows income fell 22% year over year We're right before the windows 10 release. So that's not unexpected Office 365 subscribers rose by 2.8 million and commercial cloud revenue grew 88 percent year over year Surface Microsoft surface revenue was up 117 percent year over year So I did a little a little bit of a math food very quickly, which is very inaccurate But let's have fun. Anyway, if that Apple reports that includes, you know, the two point 64 billion in other revenue let's say it was up 1 billion from last year and Let's say that that billion is exclusively Apple watches and let's say that all of that billion is the Cheapest version of the Apple watch possible that brings us up to the grand amount of 2.5 million watches sold and that's the most generous you can get Yeah, that's the most they didn't sell 2.5 million because there's headphones in there, right? Exactly. Well, they probably sold some that were more expensive, which brings down the average So 2.5 million is above what the most they possibly could have sold in this quarter. That's a useful number supposedly if you know it might be that the 2.64 billion is entirely composed of Apple watches It's very unlikely, but 2.5 million. It doesn't seem like a lot of watches to be sold for But you know depends on where you stand. It is the first generation too. I'm not gonna be too Excuses are starting to come out I'm not making an excuse because I don't care whether it sells. I don't really like the watch But I'm just trying to be fair and say it's a first-generation project product That doesn't mean it will be a flop in the future if it didn't sell that many right out of the gate. Yeah, I I Love our subreddit. I don't know if I told you that enough subredditors The folks who maintain it the folks who submit links the folks who vote you are are the best Daily tech news show that reddit.com you've heard several stories already that were submitted in our subreddit like the one about the Hacking of the Jeep for instance Sarfiri Zeta sent us the news that Toshiba CEO He saw Tanaka is resigning because the company overstated profit by 1.2 billion dollars over six years and got caught Gizmodo reports that a team of financial investigators discovered a corporate culture in which one could not go against the wishes of superiors Quote from the story when top management presented challenges division presidents line managers and employees Below them continually carried out inappropriate accounting practices to meet Targets in line with the wishes of their superiors Toshiba's vice chairman Norio Sasaki has also resigned MFS rail sent us the news that the Smithsonian Institute has launched a Kickstarter to bring Neil Armstrong Space suit back to the National Air and Space Museum in time for the 50th anniversary of the moon landing in 2019 the suit is currently in a climate-controlled storage area because it is extremely fragile The suit will require conservation to stop Detonation and the state-of-the-art display case and no the US federal budget doesn't cover this So far the Kickstarter has raised almost half of its $500,000 goal with 28 days to go. There's a ton more detail about the conservation and digitization work So go there if you want to check it out and your Kickstarter amount Minus the fair market value of your reward is tax deductible As well, and that's a look at the headlines So verge editor chief nilai Patel has a column called the mobile web sucks, and I'm inclined to agree He he's probably from what I gather here motivated by this idea of Facebook instant articles an attempt to bring down the eight second load time of news pages and Apple news which is an attempt to bypass the browser and bring news directly to you And I think as a publisher of the verge He's frustrated with the fact that hey, you know what? It's hard enough to make the site work well on the web And now we're going to have to make it work well for Facebook and for Apple and whoever else comes down the line This is not the way it's supposed to work He writes incompatible proprietary publishing systems entirely under the control of huge corporations Neither of which particularly understands publishing or the media are part of the problem This caught your eye Patrick what what particularly about this turned your head Well, I think he put his finger on something that at least I personally have been feeling for a while now And I'm wondering if it's it well, it might apparently be a more generalized feeling for people using their You know browser on their phone, which is we have a problem with the Web mobile web and app duality I know you're fond Tom of saying that you know things swing back and forth and currently apps have sort of a better usability Rating let's say then then the web but it will come back and things change But the reality is the mobile web kind of sucks like seriously sucks if you you basically have a couple of options either you go to a mobile specialized website and Most of the time the experience is terrible because it doesn't it looks bad It looks like it was designed, you know for the the initial smartphones back seven or you know Six seven years ago or designed in the spare time that people had after they made their app, right? Yeah, because they're like all right We should do a mobile site to I guess and then if you're on an iPhone you get the Likely the invite to download the app possibly with a pop-up And then you get the ads that cover up cover up the entire screen. It is a terrible experience and I think this does do harm to the ecosystem because Even though you do have the kind of a solution with apps It's it is very impractical to have a nap per Publication or you know apps are good for some things. I don't think they're good for everything And this is an issue and I'm not sure exactly how we are fixing it. He does mention Facebook instance our instant article in the Apple news as you said, but These are hindrances to the web designers and and you know sites ability to be present everywhere But they are more symptoms of the fact that websites just don't work well on mobile devices And it's weird that apps do work and websites don't work because in theory the web is now so Flexible that you could be you could do almost anything on websites. So why not mimic what you're doing on the app I don't know why it doesn't work Well, he seems to point to a theory which I think has some validity that the platform makers are dissuading folks from developing on the web, maybe even unintentionally by keeping their browsers limited Now the worst example is the iPhone right apple only allows the safari engine its own browser engine I don't think it's called the safari engine, but it only allows its own browser engine on the phone Yeah, it's a webkit based engine. That's it. You want to make a browser for the iPhone? You're basically making a re-skinned safari And that absolutely limits the platform if that were the case on desktop, we would not have the robust web Browser situation that we have now Google does allow other people to make browsers, but it's not much better It is it is really it is for various reasons and and nilai sort of Suggest that maybe mozilla is a little starstruck by the the google revenue It gets although remember it did switch to yahoo as the default search engine recently That it's not really willing to take on android But I think the fact that chrome is the default browser on android And everyone's using apps means that Browser developers just aren't seeing the percentage in trying to unseat chrome Especially when they can't really unseat safari anyway So they'd they'd only have to be banking on one platform And I still believe that this is this is the bottom of the pendulum in the app versus browser Swing and nilai is is is one of the voices that's going to get us to swing back to say wait a minute Why is it that on a desktop? Everybody uses the browser And the browser works great and a lot of people spend most of their time in the browser And we don't use apps on the desktop unless we have a very specific purpose like photoshop Or something like that whereas on the on the phone It's the opposite We spend all of our time in apps and we actually I asked people on twitter and I asked people on google plus about this Everyone but one person Maybe two or three Said that they spent most of their time in the browser on the desktop And most of their time in apps on mobile devices bill meeks Who's a friend of the show said I do mostly work on desktop and the only app I really use on my phone is tweetcaster. So he's got a unique situation He he does work on the desktop and the work he does is not browser based work So he's not going to be he's going to be the exception to the rule But most people because the browser is so good on the desktop spend all their time there And because it's so bad on mobile spend all their time in apps You know, I think that people are used to the idea that browsers suck on well not suck but are Less pleasant to use on phones because it's just phones. They're not, you know, you don't expect that kind of device to have the power necessary to to run a fast browser, but We've we've realized With the release of the iphone 6 and that's the device he he quotes and he mentions in his article I'm sure other android devices are comparable the iphone 6 plus which is the fastest iphone available is comparable in benchmarks to an 11 inch MacBook Air from 2012. That's just, you know, that's insane. That's that's three years ago So they should have enough horsepower to design an experience that is at least I mean, I don't know if it's the speed really But it certainly plays into it one question I have though is have you ever used other devices like the ones that are based on on a web browser? I'm thinking about the motelah os which might be Installed on on cheaper devices. So maybe that's not comparable But I don't think any web browser on the phone is is satisfactory in any way so I don't know if are we living in a You know an era that is similar to the pre chrome Era on the desktop if if people don't remember I think it was maybe five years ago The browser wars has had sort of come to stalemate I think it's fair to say that motelah had become kind of lazy That they were maybe some inertia, right? They weren't pushing out the features as fast Maybe they're getting distracted with side projects. Who knows And and google uh came up Arrived in in that field with chrome and all of a sudden everyone woke up and the web got pleasant to use again How likely do you think it is we are on the verge of on the verge of A similar event for phones because it's a they're much more closed platforms both of them the main the dominant ones Well, yeah, and there are a lot of voices. It's not just nilai patel There are a lot of voices out there saying we need better Browser based materials and and google itself makes chrome os right an os that is entirely a browser And and so they are at once the best example of what you can do to be like hey You know what this these mobile laptops can just can just use a browser as essentially as their operating system This is the dream of netscape constellation from the 90s. It is arrived. It is here You don't even need an operating system anymore and and at the same time on android They've got a lot of efforts so far. They haven't had a lot of result We don't see a lot of competing browsers on android and that is really the big problem here Is that we don't have a browser ecosystem and you can't have a browser ecosystem on ios And I think people are starting to notice that and they're starting to put pressure on that and hopefully That pressure will start to build and we'll see maybe some competing efforts start to take hold on android We'll see Maybe apple starting to feel some pressure Who knows if they'll actually allow a competing browser engine that'll be the day right pigs fly etc, but It designers are understanding the limits of the app system now It was really fun. It was really neat. It made a lot of people a lot of money But now there are things you just can't do when you've siloed everything off And that's why I think it will swing back So Another more controversial question maybe how much do you think this is due not to the web or to the browsers But to simply to the form factor or of phones That just can't don't allow for a good experience On the web. Yeah, I think that was the original thing, right? I'm sure that's why the iphone started With we only gonna have one engine because that's simple We know and that and I think the idea because if you remember the first generation of the iphone had no apps And steve job said you'll make an apps on the web I think the idea was like to make it easy to develop apps for the web. You only give one browser The the problem is when you only have one browser Suddenly you're limited in what you can do on that browser And if that browser is not being developed by the company in order to facilitate better web apps because they're making so much Money off their app store Well, you have a problem So I guess you know what you're pointing out another solution Which would be for apple to pour some money into developing the browser on ios And make it easier to make web apps and please make them standards compliant So they will run well on chrome on android as well So wait, let me ask you the question a different way then Have you ever used a mobile website that you are extremely satisfied with the financial times? Okay. Well, that's one. Yeah And in fact the financial times is doing really well Because when apple decided that if you wanted to have a subscriber In your app, you had to share the money the financial time said great We're just going to make a web app and they made a kick-ass web app that you can download and pin To your ios home screen and it works Indistinguishably from an actual app The only difficulty is you have to be interested in the financial times And you have to be willing to pay them for it because they have a paywall So I guess the lesson of this discussion is please help us financial times You're our only hope Or somebody yeah, but take a look at what they're doing I think I think as more companies start to realize that Wow, you know like having to develop a separate piece of content for facebook and a separate piece of content for apple news And a separate piece of content for our app and a separate piece of content for the desktop browser Is just not efficient and we already have a system out there in html 5 that could solve a lot Maybe not all but a lot of these problems. I'm seeing anecdotally a lot more people In the content industry getting away from apps and and Making sure that their website is rock solid on all formats. So yeah, no, that's good. It's a good good trend Hey, uh real quickly before we get to the pick of the day I know this weekend you were watching the evo 2015 fighting game e-sports tournament and there was A kind of an amazing moment that you were talking about So the yeah the evil if you allow me dear audience for a very quick e-sports report This Incredible tournament held every year by the shoryuken association Is called the evolution and so for short it's evil 2015 this year And there was one moment I really wanted to report on and I'm going to try to do a dramatic reading of my report So excuse the the grand deals Accents and tone So picture the stage we're at the semi-finals of the biggest tournament of the year And washige is fighting ogawa the undisputed super champion of this game guilty gear exord Are you playing music with it? Yeah, I'm giving a little sports music underneath So this is just one of the games there but exord guilty gear exord is having their semifinal And in a grueling battle where none can gain a significant advantage They fight their way to the final match It doesn't start well for washige his enemy snacks the first round And this is the final match remember the one who wins wins everything But in a superhuman effort washige manages to win the next one Washige jumps from his chair. He waves his arms around. He's won But wait what? It takes a handful of seconds for him to realize what you dear listener already understand This is of course a best of three match and washige has only won the second round He gets it turns around in terror and crush and rushes back to his joystick But it's too late at this level of play mercy is a luxury no player can afford And ogawa revels in his justified cruelty The round is almost over before it has even started Seizing the opportunity the monster destroys two-thirds of this of his enemy's life bar in the blink of an eye And washige watches helplessly as his chances vanish into pixelated smoke It's over and it's ogawa's turn to turn to jump out of his chair and wave his arms around He's won the semifinal for real this time Uh, yeah that so that that really happened the guy thought he had won two and he'd only won one It was terrible. He jumped out of his chair of brown before the winning and you know, he realized it And of course you see his eyes like and that you have to hear the um the commentators Seeing what's happening and screaming at the top of their lungs. No What are you doing and he jumps back and ogawa has completely demolished Him before he can do it So it's funny because I think you see these kinds of things happening when players get cocky in quote-unquote real sports All the time and the fact that it happens in e-sports as well And that people get the same kinds of reaction and excitement Almost legitimizes e-sports as a real sport And and it's happening more and more and not the mess ups But uh, so it was a fun moment and the evil championship in general was excellent. So All right, let's uh, we're going to get to our pick of the day patrick's got a good one But people responded with their own favorites regarding syncing which was our our pick of the day yesterday Andrew in leafy london recommends sync Covery for manual sync automatic syncing network syncing even binary syncing Where the ability is to check every bit or byte of every affected file to ensure an accurate copy Allen from redmond Redmond washington is a road warrior and moves his desktop to a folder in his microsoft one drive environment And he adds I would use the solution even if I didn't work for the giant software company that I work for Okay, good good disclosure. Allen, uh, and then steven osi seconded syncing yesterday's pick and noted that You can use the web GUI on any platform So if you're not on windows, you can still get a nice, uh graphic user interface for that What is your pick today patrick in the spirit of gaming, uh, I'm picking a game which I just started playing today and that is In equal parts ridiculous and fun The game is called rocket league and it's available on steam for 20 bucks But it's also available on the playstation network's ps plus service, which is a yearly subscription service But you get it for free this month if you are a subscriber to that service And it's a very easy game to dismiss because it's completely idiotic, but trust me it's it's super fun Just to set the stage again It is rocket powered cars playing soccer You wouldn't think that's right up there with dinosaurs on a spaceship as far as like amazing concepts There you go, and it is It is silly fun stupid fun and ridiculous I highly recommend it at least if you if you're a ps plus subscriber and you haven't taken You know giving it a second look give it a second and a third look you'll have fun All right, we got a voicemail from rico regarding the plastic roads with the built-in conduits Uh for things like fiber. Here's what he has to say hi the tns crew This is rico travesen calling from weirdly sunny belgium I'm just kind of relating to the story about vocal rustles rolling out there in brand new say Road technology and how I can easily pass cables underneath it and I would imagine they have a strong interest in that because They were one of the founding members of the the dutch open access network ragging fire So this is these are the guys who Redid and upgraded the the last mile infrastructure for for the Netherlands putting fiber bringing more competition to the market by allowing wholesale internet service providers to use the last mile and then a lot of Of course retail service providers came in and gave a lot of customers a lot of Choice a lot of options lower prices better quality all the things we don't have in Belgium where we're stuck with our monopolies all right of the show keep rocking A little bitterness about belgium there, uh, but uh, but good information I didn't realize it was the same company who will they have a lot of experience trying to roll out fiber into asphalt roads And thought of a better way. That's really cool We got several emails from folks about microsoft Starting something called metered connection setting in windows 8. Remember, we had the uh, Nigerian it guy who wrote in yesterday saying this is a problem if you can't turn off windows updates if you're on a metered connection And several people said you can turn on a setting that flags any wireless connection Whether it's a cellular connection or just wi-fi you can turn that setting on and say i'm on a metered connection And it will do several things including holding windows updates for your approval the setting it does exist in windows 10 travis d A k indy d lists helps clients set it up often when they're on cell data for their laptops and tablets Uh, it says it stops windows services from downloading without being proved If a wireless network is set as a metered connection then any app that relies on an internet connection to update or display info Might be limited in the amount of data it can download or display windows updates won't automatically download over a metered connection Where charges may apply and apps downloading from the windows store might be paused start screen and start menu live tells might stop Updating offline files might not sync automatically and ethernet network connections cannot be set to metered So if you plug it into an ethernet connection all bets are off But that is something to uh to keep in mind if you know if you're definitely if you're on a metered connection You want to turn that flag on it will sometimes the api will actually sometimes automatically register Oh, you're you're on air tail, uh, you know, we're gonna you're on teego We know that that's a metered connection So we're gonna turn this flag on but you can do it yourself as well And it's probably something wise to do on wi-fi Brian pointed out a verge article from march 15th that showed a new option in windows 10 that allowed users to enable updates from More than one place essentially peer-to-peer Updating of windows 10 Uh, and we had another e-mailer say that microsoft is working hard to solve driver issues And there's a hiding unhiding tool that was released recently that'll let you hide A bad or worse driver than the one you installed yourself so that it won't get updated so There are a few things that microsoft is putting out there to help people deal with this automatic updating All of this is very clever and it brings me to the the question that I think we are all Thinking uh right now, which is has microsoft thought of everything? No, they seem to have everything laid out so cleverly Honestly, it's it's it's keeps surprising me how on point of course they have they have a lot of why you're right But yeah, they're surprisingly and consistently on point with windows 10. So I have high hopes are they on fleek With windows 10 is that no on I'm sorry. I didn't On fleek on on fleek Is that french? I just someone younger All right That is it for the show. Thank you patrick beija. You can find patrick on twitter twitter.com slash not patrick Uh, you can find all of his english language shows at french spin dot com. Uh, what's coming up brother? Uh, well, we're recording finally a new episode of the filius club this coming saturday And it's been a couple of months. So i'm very eager to get back into that conversation And uh, you know next week at the time of this show I'm going to be flying up in the air in a giant metal tube Over the atlantic coming to nerd tackler where hopefully All of us will meet and have fun and will record the dts from there. Yeah, uh, we're okay So next week just so you know, I will be out monday tuesday wednesday For that contract job I took but you'll be in good hands dts listeners. Don't worry about that Thursday we'll be doing a headlines only ish shows probably from under a tree somewhere in salt lake city And then friday we have our salt lake city nerd tackler super-sized panel Where we'll have an extra long episode of daily tech news show for you So that's that is the plan next week and patrick major will be there. 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Nerd tackler himself scott johnson on the show tomorrow talk to you then The show is part of the frog pants network. Get more at the frog pants dot com Diamond club hopes you have enjoyed this rover Great show, what do we call it? Oh, that's my job. Hold on I think we should call scott mr. Nerd tackler from now on mr. Nerd tackler He needs a top hat tackler Hacking the parentheses car system very clever from lily Bad apple core. I don't know um Not to go off in a tangent But can we all just take a chill pill about companies that earn billions and billions of dollars earning slightly less billions of dollars? I'm sorry. I'm I'm done um Let's see It's not unreasonable to be hacked by anyone This is pretty good. Um the mobile. Oh, I like the mobile inept in that I like that a lot Oh, baby can baby you can hack my car is a really good one too. That's good as well You connect me with hackers That's pretty great Honed under a bad sign. Oh nice Um, yeah Everybody earns So Some money, well, there's so many song ones. Yeah, I don't know what happened It's a very musical audience Yeah, only while you were singing well The internet is smart It's like there's a there's a filter like, oh, uh, a copy right? Shut it down Yep, yep. Um, so let's see. Which one do we like? Well, there's the uh cardinal nation um I don't want to brag but after my my performance of uh the tom jones's cover Um, you know the title jumped up significantly. Unfortunately, we can't do We can't have you know the title song on the metadata No, that is that is, you know, if we had more web development on mobile, we probably would be able to do that Uh, yeah, it's right. It's running away. I'm cool with that I do like you can actually with hackers though I really like Well, it's I'm still levelating so we can give it some time to cook get there show about dot tv go vote right now We only got a second Let's see what else Wait, where did tom go? I'm right here. Oh weird. Whoa screen just went to black Sometimes does that to save bandwidth? Oh, it's like tom errant's face way too much bandwidth. We don't need to show that All those beard follicles roof So bits Let's see some of you want to hear my exciting news. Oh, right. Yes. Oh, we're not that exciting. It's really not that exciting I formed a company When are your earnings reports? Oh god, uh, I'm trying to not start the company until january 1st because I'm like and I don't like a mid-year Thing So we'll see but I at least have one now. I have a company. That's awesome. Congratulations. Yay Hey I'm actually going to start a company some sometimes soon as well I'm looking at well. It's a it's a different status. It's like individual person company It's oh, I see got you cool company and I'm I'm looking at the amount of you know taxes and things that you have to pay And I'm crying a little bit on the inside and on the outside to be honest. Yeah come to america living tax I'm not I'm not a hundred percent sure That it will be all that different Yeah, maybe it would be maybe it would be well texas it would be because texas is different than california, but Yeah, yeah, maybe but the thing is I want uh social security. I'm not going to go, you know, we have social security Right, but then you have to pay for it And that that is what costs costs a lot. Oh, you want free social security I know I have to pay for it if I if I'm the guy, you know running the company Right now. I know payroll taxes. How much it costs talk to me about payroll tax. Whoo I'm going I'm going with it's not unreasonable to be hacked. Uh, it's running away with it. So So can you tell us the name or no jenny? Oh, yeah, sure infinite gain productions infinite gain Well, oh, so that's why you were bitter about the company's earning billions, but a little bit less It's so interesting we say that because It's an audio joke about infinite gain on microphones, and it's also a litmus test So I immediately know who the person is by what they decide Well, you know, I'm in it for the money right like most french Yeah, you're just a money-grubbing capitalist Yeah, actually my version of infinite gain high five high five there web browser high five I was high fiving big jim from the chat room, but well you just high fived me because I can high five right back at you Um, no, it's it's also means instead of zero sum gain infinite gain That's my interpretation of it. Mm-hmm. So there there it is Now I've got a company So, uh, what what do you do? Uh, I produce things. Yeah Yeah, it's it's a production company. We produce things. I almost made matt out of sheer spite the the treasurer Just because he hates talking and dealing in any way with money whatsoever. So almost waited in the treasurer I was like no wait a second someday somebody might ask him actually to talk about numbers I was like, nope. They're fine. So now Now I'm just I made him the general manager because it was more like baseball Oh, okay. Yeah, that seemed right But wait a second Infinite gain. That's a terrible way to produce an audio show It just keeps getting loud But it's just so slow that you know, you never notice it just goes for a gradual right Um, I'm I'm doing it's a mash-up Technically the economics term is zero sum game Right is the correct thing But I like it as gain Because it it it has an audio joke in it because you wanted to make an audio joke gosh door down to make an audio joke And I will make an audio joke if I want to This is so important. This isn't for economists Get out of a room Because it identifies the economists Right, right because they will actually most people just say oh, yeah, sure. That sounds great. And then an economist would be like, excuse me Excuse me excuse me. Yeah. So that's my new plan Great my litmus test production company infinite gain. Well, congratulations new That is big news So how do people hire you? It is big news. I oh, um, they can find me at feedback daily tech new show You you have a jenny address I do jenny jen and iej at daily tech new show dot com. I think I think I rarely use I never actually spell it out. I just type j and then it comes up Yeah, it's an auto It's an order Complete. I don't know what I would do that autocomplete to be honest Autocomplete my life uh-huh Right, it'd be funny if it was autocomplete my wife Now that's comedy it was right there sorry Uh, it was all you guys take my wife autocomplete. Wait, what? It was uh, it was all your stupid puns and your stupid emails Uh, I learned it from watching you. Okay. I learned it from watching you Um, hey time one bit of serious business. Um, yes I can do the video upload download but more like at 330 Because I have to go meet a student I think that's fine Okay, I'll I'll tweet it if you want to boost our patreon up to $20,000 the second Then jenny will make an exception and put the video up right away Otherwise, it's going to be up later this afternoon. Okay, which they won't see till later this afternoon because we just said it on the video Right, it's kind of a conundrum. I know I know You also have to have a some sort of form of time travel. Well unless you're watching live, I guess but that's true Um, okay, then that's fine. I can do it right before class. I just I'm supposed to go meet a young lady um Oh, dude For a for a consult A lady caller A lady student gonna go get iced tea student. Okay. Um, so yeah, so that'll be fun and then um And then I'm super excited. I've been very carefully planning out our meeting tomorrow We're doing lots of internet research Uh, is that a secret meeting? No, we're going because it's be a be sweet You're doing research on where we're going. Yeah I'm sitting there thinking like wordpress templates or the What I don't know No, I just want to know what dessert is being consumed. Oh, yeah. No, they have specials. That's a good point I went to To the the restaurant in paris where you can get the best. Is it florida? Any uh Have you seen? House of cards. Yes, of course. Yes. What is the style of ribs that freddy makes? Oh I don't remember what style it must be georgia Is it well anyway underwood is from georgia Okay, well, I went to a restaurant that does that like that in paris and that is Delicious, I can tell you if you ever have a chance. I don't know if they have those in your neck of the woods Uh in your giant country, but you should they're very good We have a place that makes pretty good ribs. Uh, they're more texas style, I guess, uh, but they're really good over here on washington You know, I think texas would probably be good at making good ribs. So st. Louis has world famous barbeque But I don't like it and it's anathema and I grew up not thinking I liked barbeque very much because we'd have barbeque And we have st. Louis barbeque, and it's very good st. Louis barbeque, and I'd be like All right, then I moved to texas and I'm like, oh, this is the barbeque. I like this is barbeque Uh, so it's one of those things. It's one of those rare Exceptions to like what you grew up with you tend to like better Uh, I I you know, I'm sorry. I'm sorry everyone I grew up with I don't like st. Louis barbeque very much and I don't like kids in city barbeque, which is very similar I like texas barbeque Especially dry rub no sauce Give me that give me that meat direct Tom is all about that me No sauce Um, I gotta go meet a four mentioned student in three minutes. Oh, okay three minutes I already put it off once And now I'm that that is yin said and you allowed yourself no time No time there is no time left for you as they say Got got got no time Uh, right. I'm actually out of the post. So let me just check this and make sure it's not Dead. Um All right. Well, I'm gonna go play some more rocket league Good show patrick. Thank you so much. Thank you guys. Uh, thanks chat room. You were amazing as always And I will see you Some of the chat room I hope in in person next week. Absolutely Everyone else as well Bye Uh, yeah, I am out of the post. Uh, stay tuned for night attack this evening coming up after 111 ways to hack your jeep