 It's another beautiful day in the neighborhood Is it the neighborhood of media? All right Now now why don't I believe that? Well, be it's true if I say beautiful is subjective Um, I mean, I guess that's your right, but you know that point I have my right to disagree Imagine being that that person who watched all three of these MCU shows watched all the new And we'll just everything that comes out and you loved all of it You're just like this fucking amazing. We are in a golden fucking age where we are That is a that is an interesting world Let me tell you they're like the same person who says I'm like, you know breaking bad a little bit dry a little bit long-winded Yeah, you know coffee. That's pretty that's pretty corny. Yeah, they think they're trying to do stuff with characters But that's not what I'm really in it for You know like a lot of older movies TV shows a lot of people think they're great But really they have an age well, but this stuff. Oh, this will stand the test of time, you know, this is black beautiful I think the what we were talking about on the last one which I got some stream labs here that regard it I remember Peacock game we were talking about with the whole in-game purchases someone said Speaking of Peacock in games In mech warrior online if you paid $500 for the clan mech package You've got a single golden mech It became an unspoken rule in the community to always leg the golden mechs Even if they were on your team, no one likes whales But I guess if you had a golden mech doesn't show up you just sabotage them at all costs I find it amusing that you've effectively paid to have other people target you Mean yeah, cuz that was suck for that person, but at the same time so I have some self fucking control Jesus Yeah, I mean I Don't it's just it's it's not system. It is like looking in the lake look at how beautiful I am and then You know and then eventually you just wither off and die That's the story in completion Basically, yeah, well if it's a two is that whale on Mech warrior online or whatever you'd be like why did you buy that and I seriously fucking doubt That they would honestly like in their heart of hearts say, you know what I just really like gold the gold The aesthetic is something I really appreciate and it's worth any price including what was it 500 bucks Yeah, like the price of fucking 10 mainline like a price of like a playstation 5 Yeah Which doesn't seem quite worth it, but what would I know? I think that's one of the big issues I have with micro transactions is the prices always feel incredibly skewed like I don't a skin that is worth like five bucks feels too expensive to me It's like that's that's what that's nearly a tenth of the price of the whole game For one for one Hard to be definitive on how much they should cost, but I mean we can tell at 500 for one of them is um We're not looking at we're paying for the look anymore. Something else is going on Yeah, um the matter. I guess it's just a matter of when you think about everything that there is in the game um, I always kind of felt this way when you think about like um expansion packs back in the day like You pay full price for the stim the sims, but the expansion would cost about half the game And it's not strictly half the game's content But i'm okay with it because it feels like with the game You're almost getting like if you weight up all of the elements of a video game There's kind of a discount to the whole bundle and then when new stuff gets added in it's like i'm okay with paying a little bit more Proportional to the content i'm getting That feels fine to me But now it's like you don't really because functionality is free. I think that's the big That was what was learned during the last generation is You know, it was it was inelegant in the in the ps3 360 to make people buy maps because when people buy maps You're splitting the player base in half and the more you split it the more the population will decrease um And the more you do that the less people will be willing to buy it Like the model has now morphed into no the content will be free Because of the contents free people will keep buying the skins Um, and I don't even know how I feel about that. It's like is it better that people aren't That they aren't selling game changing items to that the answer is yes But there is a trade-off Um with this model that just sort of capitalizes on people's desire to look special and feel special Look at how beautiful I am Look at how amazing I am look at these things I have um, do you see do you see, you know I Spam Loki sucks. Yeah, don't Yeah, we're aware the Loki sucks We have uh, we've seen the newest apopood It'll come up here and there as we uh, we have this chat Bring you thoughts on rifts apart if you have a ps5 ratchet and clank video when also high rigs um I I haven't got a ps5. So I haven't played That game I probably will when I get a ps5, but I'm not in a rush to get a playstation 5. I'm just I'm not really um I don't know that I will be for a while. I feel like there's not a lot that it's coming out for That I'm especially excited for like ratchet and clank that'll be cool But as for a lot of the other stuff, it's like the new horizon game and Maybe Maybe I'll be more excited for god of war if I finish playing or which I will uh, eventually one bird Yeah, someday I still gotta play some of those um Isn't amazing how the life and times of scrooge mcduck comics are the greatest disney story arc ever and they still haven't topped it The life and let me the comics the life and times of scrooge mcduck Uh rags is on his way back. Don't worry folkary nose Oh, man, I'm just saying if uh, because now that now that people are reminding me I kind of I kind of feel like I want to read some of these old comics um All right, you can get him on kindle for a lot cheaper, but uh You know what uncle scrooge and donald duck the son of the son When was this written like Sunday night of night? Well says it came out 2014 I just uh, uh, it's just It was a different time Say that even why I don't pause indeed um You need to have balls overwang to milk a rhino Gotta have all of the balls what I hear dangerous Do such things Or not, you know, maybe it's really not and that's the big misconception by Wakanda cracked it um John McAfee didn't oof himself also high rags I I mean, yeah fucking who knows what's going on there. I don't know I wouldn't want to assume anything Hmm weird schnizzles Morning good morning Apparently tonight of fans are angry superman gets put in the icu because he was shot by a kryptonite bullet Although zack planned to have dead shot use kryptonite bullets in his justice league sequel pitch I don't care what zack snider was planning, but um what I find amusing is that in the comics that was the first thing that dead uh that um Blood sport did It was like the first the first page of his appearance was putting superman a bullet in superman Um, well, I imagine they're highlighting this because snider fans like upset even though snider planned to do it Um, that's pretty amusing. That is actually pretty funny. I guess I'm just I'm so happy that we're just moving on. You know, it's done and we're just moving on to to They should be thankful. They got what they got Honestly, you should the fact that Like that zack sniders justice league was pretty self-indulgent as a product. Um Most like that for something that is so crap compared to like all of the other amazing content that has been lost due to like corporate influence or budget or um any any number of Circumstances and the fact that that was the one that got this insane budget to make this new thing pretty You may you may think i'm joking But of course jill shoemaker was going to have a Film called was it batman unchained and I think it's going to be the third of his after batman and robin Would have way preferred to have had that than justice league snider cut Or bvs or man of steel because jill shoemaker had a lot of fun when he made his movies Yeah, I just I don't know. I just I think of stuff like This is totally unrelated But now i'm thinking of like pray to that game and how that game was like getting close to done And then it just everything went wrong just due to corporate influence and stuff like that And like there's no fanfare for that. We never got that game to get pushed to get released um, but and that game actually had promise um, but hey At least we got to see the end of the The just exact sniders justice league and we'll never stop hearing about it because it keeps doing interviews talking about it Clearly wants to keep making these films And you know that this isn't tied to zack sniders tied to the dc because nobody cared about army the dead Nobody really cared about anything that he's done that hasn't been like A lot of his work is adaptation um And then look at like sucker punch fucking tanked because nobody cared Nobody really cares about like the yeah but even even Justice league i'm pretty sure didn't have like a lower premiere in terms of like numbers then godzilla vs kong Like didn't that maybe blow it out of the water in terms of viewership on hbr max And that was in theaters too It was and even then Well, just one of the most successful films of the year as it stands um Oh, this is one weird cosmoronic stream high rags This isn't cosmoronic all day Well that episode was dumb high rags and others. Hello, and yes it was Hey, yeah, oh man, those are baffling It's funny. They can barely like Take an action without my brain being like wait wait wait wait You should have hang the back on I always feel it's weird because like when i'm watching these shows it feels like there's a it feels like there's a Huge disconnect for me like what i've been watching these marvel shows. Nobody's doing anything that they They should be doing It was really weird like You two have just met and you're having this heartfelt conversation about your back stories And it's like I thought you guys will like try to kill each other 10 minutes ago What happened Why are you willing to share so much? Oh, it's making the sound from the movie How neat Why is there an e-walk on the death star? Because we get to have fun here. I thought that's what we get Look he has the force now also high rags Yeah, that little telekinetic grab that is new to me. I didn't know he could do that And now when you you think it's never small because you're like, uh-oh What um, what's that gonna have done now if you look at everything else? It's come for me Yeah Here what happened to scott car corthon See what you're well about his games. It was his passion slash business and all taken away for supporting the orange man bad That's the Well, he quit didn't he now To be better again from what I understand he quit because people were like harassing his pregnant wife So, you know it's quits in that sense. It's it's kind of under A lot of stress From what I understand the whole context was that he had donated to specifically Like just openly anti lgbt organizations um, which I obviously disagree with By the sounds of it, but um, it is his choice. It's his right I guess people it's also their right to like disagree with that choice But I mean, I feel like the the simplest thing would be just to stop buying the game Not to harass him and his wife especially not his wife like that's Yeah, you can't even do it anonymously they're gonna find you All right, uh, if I got it wrong then yeah, like that's that's what I heard um about it But um Yeah, I mean in any case in any case it still feels like a step too far to start harassing him and his wife I should say so. Yeah Oh, okay. Well, what people are saying is that he didn't specifically donate to anti lgbt groups. Okay Oh, well then at that right Hold on Research time. What's his name again? Scott Cawthorn I'm gonna be a don't trust wikipedia. Well, you know me. I'm a wikipedia andy Who's Andy? How do I get through here then? Um Okay, so this is it said that he made He made financial donations to uh, republican candidates mitch mcconnell donald trump Um, and he made donations to tulsi gabbard. Oh So he didn't okay, so he didn't give any right um And then he said himself that it had nothing to do with those issues Right, okay well, then Well, yeah, I mean that makes sense, right like just because you donate to a candidate even if they express views that are opposed to it Um, yeah, I don't anybody agrees 100 percent with any candidate Yeah, that's basically what I was gonna say It's like you might support somebody for specific points that they want to they want to raise and then um And then there are other things where you just like either disregard it or it's just not as important to you um And I mean if he was like anti lgbt, he could have donated to different candidates that he did, you know Like I never remember being a particularly huge part of Yeah He refused to apologize. I don't want to go apologize for I don't think he needs to apologize for anything He has a right to like donate to whatever political It's his money The power break got you. Oh wait, is there a mini kit in there as well? What the hell I do wonder if uh a lot of this this stuff like these issues in terms of you know The the political divide is more to do with the fact that it's easier to identify who believes what Like before the internet, you never really knew like who supported what who was Like who who donated to who like that that stuff was less apparent whereas now It's just like you can just easily find out this stuff and of course on twitter everybody's saying what they think So now everybody's in everybody's head and it's and it's scary At least it's scary if like well, yeah, especially man If you can't donate to the teams you want to without everyone finding out too, that's that's like Well, I guess it's a thing of like the balancing activity Is there value in it being a thing that people can find or should it be secret? And I think the problem is that this situation is bad, but I feel like it's probably important to know who who Is getting donated to by who you know Like if like if you were don't I don't know like if you're a politician It was like I am going to take the fight to like X on mobile specifically And then it was hidden that they got political donations from X on mobile you'd be like, hmm Like that would be information you probably want to know Of course the concern is everyone using it to attack people Oh, absolutely. I think that's a fair concern. It's it's just a problem of how do you get over like You wouldn't be able to I don't think that it would be okay to make a distinction between individuals and corporations because companies are In a certain sense legally they are their own entity like they are an entity in and of themselves kind of like a person Um, and that's just how it's always been. So it'd be tough to find a way to to balance that And of course, you know like if it were a situation where it's like, oh companies Companies wouldn't be anonymous, but people would then people would probably just find ways to anonymously do it through like trusts or I don't know through just like really rich people who just do it personally or something. So yeah Unfortunately, this is just the side of the the consequence of transparency situations like that happen Feels bad, man. Also. Hi rags Hey, right Hi I'm back wrapped up and we're at home And things are going okay. So I'm gonna hang out and we're gonna talk about stuff and go through some super chats And whatever happens whatever happens happens. We'll just do a little thing at a time We might we don't have to though. No, we don't have to it's not a requirement. That is what is important That's number one It's a nice reference by gone era tv show Everyone didn't watch that mitchellon web look you missed out, okay? This is why I say far leftists are some of the worst people on the planet Please repeat the core thorn message for rags want to hear his thoughts very well Well, I think you already know right the five nights of freddy's guy No, not that um the five nights of freddy guy donated to Um Trump and tulsa gabban As a result Well, I don't know what he's been kind of like that's a trio right there He quit he retired from the industry. Um and from what I understand I think I mentioned it before that there was like it was it was not only people like sort of harassing him But also his wife who I'm pretty sure is pregnant um Who was not involved at all so yeah He retired because of that Well, so it came out and he got a lot of backlash and then he announces retirement from the industry So That's that's pretty clear cause and effect there, you know, yeah, I'm thinking yeah, um He I mean that's like uh As far as the the three people to donate to Like that's yeah, that was that was um because because what I had initially said was what I had heard Which was he had donated to anti lgbc organizations, but then when I looked up Just said that he donated to those candidates and then there was people drew the link between that And like as Mitch McConnell is a more old school establishment republican short trump who's trump And tulsi gabbert who's neither of those two Yeah, she pretty middle-ish Um overall especially these days that's that's quite a it's quite a trio to So he seems like a a a slightly right leaning Individual based on those three You know, he's Ah, no, don't worry. It's just uh, yeah, I just I just um, I think it's the fundamental thing right of like Surely the the ultimate thing is if you disagree with these choices, you just stop buying the game You don't like go out of your way to fuck with him Oh, yeah, that's what that's why these kinds of things make me I used to be yeah, we should know Yeah Maybe it's not contributions are from Yeah, this is the kind of shit that makes me, you know Reconsider that kind of transparency because you people are fucking nuts. So I agree But the problem is that I think that there is a lot of value in knowing who is supported by you Yeah, there definitely is absolutely to get over that line as as i'm you know, even though there are circumstances like this I I feel like it's important to know who's being donated to you know Oh, yeah, definitely It's more for the politician though than for the people who did it Like that's meant to be the point of it, you know Like it's to know who the politicians getting money from not whether or not your neighbor is supporting a candidate You don't like you know, yeah, we should care we should care about Who the politicians might be to hold into? You know the wink wink nudge nudge style And not oh no my neighbor voted to You know he of the two candidates he voted or gave money to one of them That I didn't like so we have to get them fired Yeah, I guess I just I just I wish we were more tolerant, you know Yeah How do we be tolerant of the intolerant That feel there will never be another phantom comic movie besides the 1996 vision Well never say never. Yeah, and to be honest with you, you know, maybe that's for the best Maybe you don't want to see the phantom ruined by a modern adaptation I mean, I yeah, I want to I don't know that I want to see a phantom adaptation not because I'm a big fan of the phantom because It's time to stop, you know Because now that's like oh snow white that's happening now too. It's like that summons them for you when you say you should stop You're like, uh, I I know because I think I scream when we're watching carella like please stop and they're not It's just I think the only modern director that would get people in the seats now be edga, right? I doubt he's made a bad film also high rags Hello, I don't think he's made a bad film even though I'm not a big fan of baby driver um I don't know that You say Tarantino can still get bums on seats I think well, I was about to say I think quick Tarantino more so can like I really like edgarite Um, but most people don't aren't super familiar with his work. Um At least not by comparisons like Spielberg or Tarantino or even Ridley scott, you know Yeah, um, I think there's still quite a few left that could get people in Absolutely. Yeah, we are definitely exiting that age though. At least it feels that way Well, yeah, because um, because I mean a lot of the ones who are sort of in that era Or um, starting to starting to get older, you know, like james camber and Spielberg Um, Ridley scott is getting really old too Oh, man, we're gonna get all them avatar movies soon Yeah, they're coming out. I think uh next year, right? And then there's like one a year after that They're pretty shot to bring back exciting the era of the avatar The era of the era of the avatar, yeah Sam Worthington Revitalizing his career I remember it was really weird because like after avatar came it like in truth out like that time He was just in a lot of movies all of a sudden because he was a terminator and then he was an avatar And then he was in clash the Titans out of nowhere Then he was in nothing else Yeah, kind of He was in a hacksaw ridge Oh, there you go There he is Sam Worthington doing this and that in the background Yeah So on an ask reddit thread people were saying movies haven't gotten worse saying endgame is just as good as back to the future People think I like equals good. Well by that metric will we ever have it like everyone? There's always someone who likes something I don't know what the point of that is Not as good as back as the future. Can we stop? Well, of course not. I kind of was that was just like the given. I was like, so We know that that's not true I would enjoy watching you play rayman 3 for super jack catch-up. Sure It's one of the many arbitrary nostalgia plugs, but favor mine or be melted You never know what will pop up Rayman origins and legends are a neat little collection of games. Those games were amazing I'm actually pretty sad that they stopped on that series Look for you whenever they stop anything these days, you have to be thankful that we didn't get the dark timeline where they Run into the ground. I guess I guess the problem is I'm not rayman was like the rayman origins and legends Were just really nice solid 2d platformers. Um I'm not sure how they could have run those into the ground They were they were too pure, you know I think games tend to be more reliable I yeah, I think so Um, you know, you always want sequels to games more so than you want. Um I say that 21 20 20 was a bad year for the games, right? Um, in some ways, yeah Uh, yeah, well, it was it was some peaks and dips. Yeah, like animal crossing was really cool But then you had like the last of us too I need your reboot Yeah Yeah Avengers the game. Well, I haven't played that but yeah, it doesn't seem like a couldn't Um Fringy, you seem to know your comics if they make a dc movie for section eight, which actor do you think should play dog? Welder Actually, I'm in red section eight I'll rip. I don't know what that is In case I need to be too Or it'll be suitable some way shape or form Like yeah, I can delve into a role I imagine that stuff like that is probably inevitable that yeah, they would make something like that Yeah, I can't I can't help you on that one so Also jim sterling supports cancelling carthorne because he's a disgusting amoral schlob schlob Or slob, it's pretty it's just got a h in there Who has problems with sorry That describes his body type pretty well Well, slob is like the expected but then you throw a h in there and it's like slob slob There's no c though. Yeah, I'm born to have the c slob so Problems with the wee wee he can't even see look lots of fat people can't see their wee weas. That's just that's that's the nature That is uh that that existential dread right there Like just you have to like you can't you have to reach down to me. Oh, thank you. Yeah, I hope I know it's one of the things like that wings of redemption Just comes off. I think that's a part reason like I haven't seen my penis in like 20 years That poor lad Laughing is misfortune. You're horrible mom Is That is a sentence It's a long lost friend, you know, you eventually lose white and he comes back and you're like, oh I'm so glad to see you You do care you came back I knew what we had between us was real He just walks back into you like how I'm with that little, you know, like the homeless guy that stick with their stuff wrapped in it Yeah, love is in. Oh, yeah a little nap sack thing. Yeah I remember when I was a kid I used to just call that a hobo stick because I always saw it in media Where like there was that guy just with that little stick with his stuff in it now. It's just hold on picking cards You're laughing. He can't see his wee wee and you're laughing Correct Yep Because it's slowly but surely happens where as you look down you can see less and less and less of it And then he says goodbye. There was plenty of time to correct that problem You were warned How are you lads doing today by the way? I'm doing I'm doing pretty good. Doing all right. It's it is a fine fine day Let's see just be chilling with the Legos talking about whatever be talked about Yeah, we're answering your questions. That's what we're doing Uh, hi waggy daddy bageldoomp Oh Bringing if you were in charge of halo infinite story, how would you write it to fix what halo five broke? Uh I don't know the problem is I feel like ignoring it isn't okay I think you need to find a way to work with it as best you can Um, I I would I would just to salvage cortana. I would do a cop out. There was something in that that forerunner system that um That that just screwed up made it go all fluby and evil That would be like the first fix and so it'll be like cheap trying to fix that and save it um, I would have it that um Lock and osiris team and all of those guys died while returning to their home planet Um, so they're they're gone. They're out Um, and yeah, I guess it would just be the the hyper focus of sheep. This should probably be his last outing Um, I don't want him to I don't want them to be able to do anything with him anymore He's gonna die a long time. It is just yeah, I It's it's time for him to halo three had a great ending, but it really did Yeah, the problem is that It would have just be better if chief had died even though what they did was a lot more poetic You know, he's back where he started exactly back restarted It's gone back to sleep and when people need him wake him up again He'll come help out. It's really great ending But unfortunately that meant that they could have him in halo four and then the rest is history Yeah, I'm fine with the ending in and of itself Uh, the problem is when it was made there was less of this They will keep using shit that is old forever and they'll never let anything die. They'll never let anything go away And that's really unfortunate the problem is that um I mean microsoft have said this over and over and over again, but They want halo to go forever They want it to they want it to be something that they can keep making games for forever And that's all 343 exists to do they just make halo games. I don't make new yps. They make halo um That is their express soul purpose Um, so halo is never gonna die. It'll just keep going and going forever Unless this game couldn't just take halo one two three And build the little side stories around it to reach and do ODST and do these other things that take place in the halo universe and it's like no No, we gotta gotta keep those main characters and we got to use that well We got to keep doing all that You know, that's kind of uh, I say ow, it wasn't my fault because I didn't say these stuff to things But it was our fault collectively because a lot of this stuff with halo four was like oh master chief's finally back It's like oh, I would have been okay with him never coming back like that. That would be fine um It really would have been fine. It would have been great We had our great trilogy Things can be done things can be over It's okay for things to end Even though you know And I guess it's a little awkward because with video games it's it's broadly there is not an expectation that series will end Like mario will not end or at least nobody expects it to end. There would never be That's mario's final outing. He's done. Um, this is the end of his story It's just not something we expect then the same yeah, he's more of a He's more of a brand than a character Yeah, he's like mickey mouse Um, yeah, he's like he gets like he just hit the reset button and now mario's doing this and now he's doing that Now he's going go karting with bowser Yeah, it's like all these little pocket dimensions where each mario can do They can go to this island and he can have a water jetpack and in this island He can walk around on real planets and and that's fine because it's not expected to be this continuous story that cares In that way But halo is the people's mentality is different. Yeah. Halo is totally different Yeah, stakes are often derived from the world story and then halo like yeah Well, it has a plot and things move forward and there are characters and there's stakes And um, and it's not like zelda either where like Each each game is from what I understand either like kind of in a different timeline or a different world or just really far apart from one another To where what happens in one doesn't really affect the other so you can just have it Happen over and over and over again. So even though those games have a story that's involved. They're always self-contained It's not really halo. It has continuity Just like unshotted did and it's funny unshotted had more of a reason to keep going because they kind of it's just pulp adventure But even they wanted to end And that was a good decision. They'll probably bring it back. I don't think it'll be gone forever, but um I just yeah, it would be nice if there was more of a committal to story like games that have stories to just have them end You have your little trilogy or have me, you know, once you want and then and then it's over That's fine with me now. You can do something new. You could go do something else. You can create a new thing Yeah, a new ip you know Sony seems a lot more willing to end uh their franchises though, which uh, I do like like They see they seem to be willing to just say yeah, that's okay. You can stop there and do something new um Seems like microsoft has more of a problem like gears has to keep going and halo needs to keep going um And whatever new stuff they make they'll probably want it to keep going I think gears gets away with it more than anything because its story was never It was never a huge deal It just no one you know the story like oh, I know this character and there's something going on with the world I guess and stuff and things but Like gears five like I I liked the campaign. I'd like the single player. I thought it was quite fun But I'm like I just don't but that's for me a super cash guy who is just like, oh, okay This is the next gears game and I'm gonna play it and I have some fun here and that's that's uh, and that's it I don't know you don't get that. I don't know if you get that kind of connection like halo used to sort of have maybe it has it to the same degree, but I don't know. I think for some franchises it works Like gears might be one where it's just it's okay for it to go on because it's It's it's it's more like spectacle and violence and gameplay and there's not really a narrative to it I Like there is but there isn't you know I'm sure there's people. It's like yeah, there's there's a story into it. Yeah, I'm sure Falcon and Winter Soldier made rags mad. I hate to see Amazon's Lord of the Rings will do to him remove all breakable items from your room rags I think I've just learned to accept that it's different the new um The next like the Lord of the Rings show it's just not it's not Lord of the Rings. It's just that's thing. It's just not Lord of the Rings It's this thing. It's this This zombie Oh puppet corpse. Yeah, I don't know what we'll be dealing with with it. What kind of bad. I mean It'll be interesting to find out but I could choose to not have it. I'd not have it I I'll probably is that is that this hero next year? I don't think it's this year I honestly have no idea. I just haven't followed it enough I'm not even sure that it started production. Oh, no And even if it has it'd probably be next year, right? It probably would probably going to take like a year to do the visual effects on the show that big Yeah, it costs like a bazillion bazillions I think it's the most expensive tv show I've made. Yeah, how many times has that been said this The past two years. Well, yeah, I know There's one division right which is kind of amusing because I can't see it in that show but with this show I'm sure it'll be Yeah really obvious Yeah, Gloky's clearly quite expensive, you know I don't know. Gloky's also a fucking trash. So that last uh that last one shot the visual effects were uh pretty much my happy Just so much money Yeah They are true Jedi Indeed Uh, Tim pool did a video back in 2020 where activists were combed through political don't Activists were combed or combing. I'm not sure which way they're going through political donations and created an interactive map of them and posted it online Ah Yeah, I'm sure there was nothing insidious about that What was the problem like it reminds me of that fucking thing that got my transparency to remember that Um, I remember that and I remember social war talks to that thing Candace Owens did for the next grift where it was like a Big database president one day. Shut up Can't believe he said that um Well, no, I can but um, but yeah, like how there was a website where it's just like Oh, we're gonna have it so that like if you see somebody on twitter who said something You don't like we'll have a website that has their name and their address where they work Like It sounds like a terrible horrible dystopian idea. You fucking psycho I mean, it's it's it's utterly dystopian because it's a whole thing of there is nothing You don't want to know these things for altruistic reasons. All right Yeah, no good person wants this information Yeah, everybody all the time Important that I know exactly where you live. You're like, um It's like why do I don't pay you visit I feel like you got a lot of things to prove that Um, Fringy thoughts on drake bell Um He's in trouble, isn't he? Oh Oh, no, I think he's in like actual legal trouble. I think he's done naughty things much more He was selling substances to younger people is what's alleged Um, well, I think he's I think the thing I saw today is whatever he was charged with he pleaded guilty So, um, but I'm not I'm not familiar with the the whole situation. So unfortunate Whatever it's going on Is fringy also Jeff Bezos in story mode In story mode of what I don't know Life is one big story mode unless you're rich then it just becomes free play I I wonder what that would be like Bezos simulator If that was a video game just play Jeff Bezos. You have to run Amazon Uh, god, please. No, let avatar die the first movie wasn't even that good It had some revolutionary effects at the time, but besides that it's really bland What do you even do for sequel? Well, I mean, it's a whole sci-fi universe They could do anything But I you know, we'll have to see I guess James Cameron really wants to make it. So he's making it He's very you get to make it. He um Yeah, it seems like he's super super Interested makes me wonder why like is this his big creative vision that he just has to have done Or does he just want to make more money? I think I don't think it's about the money. He's already He's a billionaire. I guess he really thinks that this is great Yeah, I think I think um, I think so I mean, I know that one of the things I've talked about is there is like even more new Pioneering visual effects this time around like there's there's techniques and they've developed for shooting like underwater sequences That have never been done before um So I guess I'm I guess that's the thing is like I'm curious to see what this movie is Purely technical reasons because otherwise I'm not like yeah I'm curious and hopefully that kind of thing will really help the industry make even I don't know Do I want the industry to have better effects? I I guess I do you know what I just I just like the tech. I think visual effects guys do some really cool work like, um Like to stuff with Thanos. That's really cool Immediately like more excuses for shitty writing Like well tech though. They already have that so wine as well go all for it At least when the writing shitty at least I want to be able to gok at something cool Yeah, I guess the awkward part is though is like for those little interests I have an avatar like I feel like it's got a better chance of being a good Not a good film, but like a better film that a lot of what's coming out right now The story that's simple, you know, maybe you can't fuck it up. I've enjoyed a lot of James Cameron's work, so So am I and like avatar is not like a bad film at all. It's just really fine. It's just fine The um, I'm curious about how good the dialogue is in that film. So I remember the story beats I remember the dialogue being all right. I remember I really liked um, was it quidditch? Was that no quidditch is the product was the name of the one that uh, Stephen Lang played Oh, like the sergeant guy Yeah, I liked him. Yeah, I liked him too And I like Sigourney Weaver in it as well Quarish that was the name quidditch I guess it's another thing as well as um, it seems like As crazy as it is as it is to think like dude for sequels It's like so James Cameron's like actually passionate about this idea clearly That's what's gonna keep it alive. I mean, it's gonna make money each one of those damn things is gonna make a gajillion dollars I think they will make a lot of money I don't know that they'll make as much money as the original film But I guess the the observation more so is like he actually has an interest in making this which is worth something to me Even though I have no interest in avatar really as a as a series He cares Yeah Out of curiosity if you guys watched any of the pitch meetings from ryan george Uh, I've seen a couple of them. No, they're amusing The the idea is like the person who writes the movie comes into the office to pitch the idea and the the person they say it to was like a rational person And so okay, I like that. Yeah. Yeah, it's a good format because it'll just be like You know tlj. It'll be like, uh, we'll have um, luke be old decrepit homeless and annoying and belligerent and drinking milk and it's like won't everybody hate that and it's like, yes Like as if it's a part of the plan or something. It's just yeah, they'll do different jokes that kind of thing Um Snow white isn't that snow white. Yay adaptation I mean, yeah, adaptation argument does apply though Is it's weird for the name though Um, I I would say that it's it is it is probably the the the one that is the most You know, it's like of all of the disney princesses. It's like this one is is the weirdest one that you chose You know, like I feel like you have all the ones to race swap. You know, I think you can sit down Who's named after the white skin like, okay Yeah, it's I mean, of course adaptation can work. This is more of just like a I don't I don't know you could have done this with like cinderella or bell And I think it would have been less strange for most of you know, you can't you know, I send oh I don't know about cinderella. You're acting. She's called cinderella because the suit makes her skin look black Oh, oh That would be really awkward Yeah, you're right I didn't know that or maybe I did. It's just been so long since I've watched that movie. I think the I think the um The little mermaid one is the weirdest you're acting Yeah, because you need to have someone you could so I think I talked Um, I think I talked about this on the stream yesterday There were some set photos that got leaked and it looks like it's set in the caribbean and like based on those set photos it legitimately seems like Like it's being changed from um Like a danish castle to like a plantation in the caribbean like unironically. I think that's what they're doing Are the mermaids black over there like off the coast of africa? Do they have black mermaids? Ended up in scandinavia in the fjords. Do you have the the white? Well, I guess that's what i'm curious about right like what how does it work in terms of your Uh anatomy as a mermaid, you know in terms of like melatonin and stuff not melatonin melatonin Hey, I wish maybe we'll be watching we wish we had melatonin um But uh, yeah, I'm pretty sure it's I'm pretty sure that's what they're going for it looks that way It looks like a caribbean plantation a lot of the uh Yeah, just seems like that's the that's the change and of course that would be adaptation, right? um Yeah, sure, but again, it's it's these remakes. Just i'm sick of them like On a principle level like I really don't like Yeah We have the we're super cynical about them at this point and I think right now Any reason to believe that any of these will be any good, but you know, we'll still give them a chance Even in cruella We felt that they had something they could have used and they fucked it Yeah, well if it's a plantation in the caribbean, then maybe nits aren't the only thing getting picked I don't get that one. That's right. It's easy fringy. Come on It's not All right. Well, I feel like if we were to elaborate rags won't be on youtube anymore Let's say goodbye So in response to today's batwoman, uh, oh, I oh wait, I guess this is the one that we released That's good. Not mary just finished medical school. Like they said she was back in season one Then have her own clinic not underground and funded by the wane foundation. Hashtag big Oh you Oh you But that's working within the system and the system's evil Yeah, yeah, the system is bad and it needs to be torn apart The crows are bad prisons are bad the hospital is bad. It's all everything is bad It's a shame there's only one good bar slash restaurant and it's the gay one The people who write this show are fucking crazy assholes. It would be cool if um That's actually how it went and then she like thanked jacob for getting her on the right track That's never gonna happen Oh that would be Oh Such fun Now which of these are the best at tangential learning movies video games or tv? I think games specifically multiplayer I'm not sure what tangential learnings Wikipedia and here I go It's one of my andy Tangential learning So tangential learning is the process by which people self educate around the topic But it's exposed to them through something I already enjoy So um, I guess the idea would be like if you like science fiction that might encourage you to learn about actual science Maybe yeah, because games Games have a problem solving component to them Uh, so if you it requires you to take some level of initiative And that it can often be stuff that sticks with you. I have to find out this thing I'm gonna have to go out and figure out how it works Therefore or I'm gonna have to immediately learn it and then apply it To something if I get taught something and then I have to do something with it It'll stick with me because I have to at least I It's not like I'm watching a movie or something where the problem sorts itself out in the narrative I have to make it happen and maybe that means it'll stick with me all the better I would imagine in that case that the two that would be the best for tangential learning would have to be like video games and reading I feel like probably yeah Because they're the most yeah the book won't read itself, but the movie will play itself. So absolutely. Yeah, exactly You need to pay attention to reading. You need to pay attention to play video games. So And also when it comes to books, what is that word? I should look it up what that word is Oh, I learned a new word Even if it's simple as that with a movie or something like that You can't just like stop a lot of the times by the time it you want to go learn it It's already kind of passed and the moment's gone and You a lot of you know, you'll lose your initiative to go back and get that one thing because it's just it carries on But I think I think it's a matter of like I just I'm pretty sure that it's categorical I know it is with books and I gotta imagine it is with video games. It's just like For whatever reason it just it engages your brain Like it just engages your brain more so than um than like passive activities do it's why people encourage you to read and it's why I'm not Do they depend on engagement of the person rather than the medium then? Um what it might be But I think it's just a matter of like you have to engage more with something that cannot complete itself Like with a book you like you have to pay attention. You have to read it You can't like if you're just you're not really Yeah, you just have to engage and similarly with a video game. It won't play itself Like for me, I am much more into video games than I am into Movies and shows as much as I like shows and movies. I am definitely far and out Well, wait, so what's the answer if um the person is 100 engage with all of them? Uh, I don't know in that case I don't know. Can you be equally engaged the three completely different things? I I mean if for the hypothetical I suppose you can but Definitely, I mean I assume the one that requires the most physical work would just by definition. It has more elements That the others don't even kind of apply. Yeah, I can't can't apply that is to say I guess the game simply objectively requires more input than a movie does so I guess I think what more is trying to say is like what if I don't know you as an individual are Engaging 100 with like any piece of media that you're consuming whether it's a movie or a video game You're just always 100 paying attention I guess if it's So I guess the whole point of learning tangential learning is the process of trying to get to that 100 percent um But if we assume from the bat that you are paying attention 100 Do you mean as you're paying attention as much as much as it's possible for you or paying attention in the way that You don't miss anything within the media. Let's come up with an example We're playing something amnesia And it's like you've got to make a potion to melt the acid, which is a real thing, but um I'm not sure if this is actually in the game But it tells you need to collect this this and this combine them and you'll make an acid and let's just say that reflects True life And as a result you're like, oh my god, I just learned about chemistry. That's neat And you may get involved in chemistry as a result But then someone else is watching breaking bad and they listen to brian cranson explaining a chemical process And then they're just like which is the same one let's say because he's got a each people about acidic Things for the episode and it relates to math leads a fucking something. I don't know um You know who is more likely to I just feel like at that point You're pretty much just gonna get equal results depending on the person Yeah, I guess I mean if we assume that the person is 100 percent and everything Then I don't think there's gonna be any difference. What's gonna be more different is not necessarily the medium It's what's actually, you know, what the information itself and I guess Maybe maybe we uh, this is all this we might have just totally misunderstood what tangential learning even is If the well because the thing is the person who asked this question said that their pick was multiplayer specifically Um Which is interesting. I always assume like puzzle games or something would be the ones that probably would be the most beneficial Um, well, it depends on maybe special awareness. You just naturally develop spatial awareness tactic strategy Awareness of your environment Maybe no other people Recognizing, you know, whatever people do and how to exploit that and if you're playing like a city builder game That might be or like a game about architecture or I don't know like farming simulator And then you actually learn things about farming But it's just by virtue of that's what the game is about like no matter what you're gonna learn something Unless you're like totally Not paying attention It's true. I think for the most part Let me take a look Yeah, um I would say getting people I like for me it's video games for other people It might be other things some people might hate games Some people might find that having to interact with it is a distraction to learning it I do wonder about other people And there are people who can like read books and then be like shit. I didn't even pick up what was in that page Like they they managed to read the words without Well, we'll be the yeah, they're just kind of on autopilot. Yeah, like sometimes when you drive to work You're just you just like are you don't even remember the car ride? You're just sort of on autopilot. You've done it so many times Pay attention while you're driving though, but you know, you you just you've just done it so many times Your brain's just like yep. You're going to work. It is You know, we've done this you know 10 times this week or whatever so you're You're ready And back and then you just arrive and you just means to sort as you're walking into our building You're like, oh, I'm aware of what I'm doing now So the definition seemingly of tangential learning is that you learn about you choose to learn about something because you consume something that you enjoy That's what it is Yes, I feel super subjective Yeah, because at that point I feel like anything could be equally as capable of Engaging them if that's what it means is the idea with him that person having chosen multiplayer That you come across people in iRL and then they talk to you about stuff and that stuff is like interesting Because it's outside of your culture or something like that Um, I guess the problem is I actually think that's less engaging to me Then it would be if it was just a topic that that's me I don't know like I like if somebody was like, hey, do we want to talk about it? I don't know if that would work as well for me as opposed to me consuming something that I really enjoyed that was about a subject That I find interesting Yeah, it's about it. It's not it's not just the information necessarily it's its presentation might open you up to new Like hey this thing it's actually super fucking cool and amazing um For a lot of people myself included battlefield one Was like the first thing that they'd ever sort of learned about world war one because it often gets kind of passed over because of you know world war two And it's a really insanely interesting You know event and conflict that occurred and a lot of people just they don't they know of it They know there was a first world war, but they don't really know that much about it Yeah, but but then you know you play the game and you see all the gadgets and knickknacks and innovations and dude ads And you're like wow, this is actually like really interesting and neat and exciting and tragic And I kind of want to I want to learn more about it And so they search out stuff and they pay attention to oh this youtuber is going to talk about this thing And I want to learn about you know this battle and I want about this innovation and all that kind of stuff And it's really nifty Also, that definitely seems like a uh go ahead actually I was just gonna say in this fucking game I got over to here with these stormtroopers and I'm like this is pretty neat And if you just watch me go into this room, I was like the camera's not following me. That's weird Yeah, and then you fell down a hole just kills you Blame now you've lost all of your money. I lost all my money ages ago That's not really a problem anymore because I'm very close now to unlocking times two studs So we'll be fine on true jedi as soon as I get that Activate the jack pack jango. You can do it. I believe in you And go Wow, it's really not letting me. Um What were you gonna say? Hi, um on the world war one, I guess that's an interest that makes sense. I guess because america wasn't as involved We learned a lot about world war one here Yeah Mainly because of galipoli It's just a thing that you learn about Um, I guess in america makes sense. Do you guys weren't really involved for most of it? Um, I think I screwed myself over My flight is deactivated for no reason so I can't get out of here Game breaking bug Yeah, it's like a soft locked. It just doesn't let me fly This ain't soft lock. This is like this is game breaking bug. Yeah, this is a bug Yeah, oh, yes Because you have to restart the game. He has to restart the the level and all this again Yep, which is annoying because I can collect all the mini kits again, but Like ask you can't do it either. They just cut his flight as soon as I step off the platform, which they don't normally do but You can get soft lock because of a glitch a glitch can cause a soft Well, the problem is this isn't a soft lock. It's impossible for him to get back. It's it's broken Like are his inputs doing anything? Like he can run around and it is physically impossible for him to get to the place that he needs to in order to progress It's it. This is a game. Yeah, that's off. Yeah, this is not soft locking. No, it's not How is this a soft lock? He can still play but he can't let the battle begin Mechanic just isn't functioning like it's not functioning. That's not no this It's absolutely not soft locking Yeah If a glitch prevents you from being able to move forward this this is not soft locking the game's broken Oh, yeah, well you can that can be also soft locking too. No soft locking is like more than one way to get yourself into No soft locking is like when you lose yourself into a corner Soft locking doesn't have to be because of your own You know making I'm not as hard on this because I don't really have strict definitions, but I thought the difference between um, a hard lock and a soft lock was when it's like practically impossible But you could still actually get out of it and so so for example like You can get yourself to the point where you have maybe one hp against the big huge impossible boss with no ammo and no no way to stop it, but um Basically the odds are like astronomical that you could ever defeat it, but In technicality, it's not but everyone would call that soft lock. Yeah So apparently according to somebody on reddit the difference between a soft lock and a hard lock is um, that's a uh Uh, there was a there was a more simple summary. Uh, basically they said a hard lock is something that you can't recover from you have to start over Um, but they say from completely from the beginning, but here like you have to restart the whole level Right, like there's nothing you can do I would say that would make it. If you would ask me, I would have called this a hard lock not a soft lock. Yeah All right. I I yeah, I I would call it a soft lock. It was a soft lock Because apparently I just escaped but I don't know why okay, that was a soft lock then. Yeah, because you escaped I don't know why they activated my jet pack suddenly, but let's that that that still means Hard lock would be like a crash or your inputs can't You can't even play Soft lock is you can play but you cannot progress. No No, they said a hard lock is where like if you turn off the game Who's you why should anybody like that's not a good point to make I'm about to tell you the argument Then you stopped me like if you have the if you have the um, no point in stopping me from trying to log against If all you're gonna say is it's my definition go away. It's like, oh No, tell him to go away Fuck off Like oh you tell him to go away. I'm just telling me it's my definition. Let him fucking make his argument that So fine make your fucking argument So the idea being is like a soft lock is where The ability to progress forward is like So implausible that it's unlikely, but it's possible where you're like you can keep playing and somehow get through It's like if you lost yourself into a corner and the only way that you could beat the game was like through Dodging every single bullet and landing every single bullet or something Which or like stabbing every single thing with your knife like 10 billion times You beat the boss with like the weakest shit in the game. Yeah, and it's like it's it's beyond It's as opposed to a hard lock where like if you turn the game off and turned it back on again And you were still in that same location. You're fucked. You have to restart the whole thing Like in this case a level but in a bigger game the whole game So like an rpg if you somehow lost yourself into a corner um Yeah, if it were revealed to me that there was a fucking 0.01 percent chance There's jetpack would work every time I try I'd be like so that's a soft lock then because this is insane But if they said it's impossible and I'll be stuck on that platform forever Then I'm just hard locked and I can't do anything. That's how I thought it worked Yeah, like wow because yeah Another person says that a soft lock is a lock you can recover from in some way But a hard lock you can't recover from if you turn the game off and back on it will put you back in it Hold on The problem is that there's no official. It's all credit Well, yeah, you'd have to know what's the most utility benefit in the definition here Well, I I see another one that says that it's it's something like um, it's it's where The game something in the game stops working that makes it's the way you can't keep going forward So it's like something breaks in the game that makes it impossible completely But would that be a break if like Is there a difference between it being a design flaw that you can't fly back versus I feel like that's more than a design flaw, you know Like um, if if a mechanic just ceases functioning Yeah for no reason at all for no reason at all like that to me was definitely a bug Especially because it stopped bugging out for some reason right whereas it seems like a soft lock is a design flaw Or like you made a mistake and then it makes it to where you can't play anymore like it was a design oversight That doesn't seem like an oversight that seems like a bug Wait, sorry design oversight versus a bug what is the difference there? I feel like an over so an oversight Imagine like you made a puzzle and just for some reason you overlook something and the puzzle can't be completed Like you just forgot to do something in the design to make it to where it's impossible to beat Whereas like a bug will be that it is beatable But something went wrong in the programming that like breaks it I mean, maybe if I had like I had the ability to lock doors behind me But and open them but I only had five and then at one point I lock five doors in a row and then I'm locked myself into a room and it's like they've got no way for me to Yeah, like that would be a puzzle where they just fail to account for that as a thing They didn't think you like it Or something that they just didn't notice themselves while they were designing it Maybe like that would be an example of a design oversight where a bug would be that like through no fault of your own Something just went wrong and then it breaks the game In a way that you couldn't like restart Yeah, I mean that was like that lines up for me like that's probably how I would use those words Um, yeah, obviously like actually crashing the game and stopping it um I feel like I don't even know that I would just like if someone said, ah, you got hard locked I'd be like it crashed. So yeah, I guess so. I don't know It's like, uh, I don't think it crashed with me a hard lock. Yeah, um I'm just trying to And then when I still they just infinite spawn you can you can cut off the spawns, but then they come back Okay, and then another one that says that a soft lock is um a situation where a video game remains apparently playable But further progress is oh, okay. Well, this definition includes glitch in it This definition says that a design for and a glitch makes further progress impossible even though it's apparently playable um And I'm trying to see where hard lock is what it says um A soft lock. Yeah progressing becomes impossible. It's an event that can happen to speedrunners. Hmm. All right A hard lock is something you can't recover from it says that right, so All of them have this common thing for a hard lock Which is that you can't recover from it and if you turn the game off and on again It puts you back into the lock, which means you have to start from the beginning Oh Like I did that to myself on actually well So when I first played Fallout 3 I um attacked I pissed off megaton by accident And then I ran into a house and I only had one save And I was really really low level and low everything and so I was basically like the only way I'm making it out of this Is if I kill everybody who's trying to kill me and avoid all the damage And like I tried probably like fucking 20 times, but it was just impossible. I was getting nuked every time I stood out the door so um Uh that meant that if I wanted to progress I'd have to go back from the beginning, but that would be a soft lock, right? um I guess the part that's getting me hung up is like in the instance that we just had there um If you restarted the game and it puts you at a different checkpoint. I feel like that like Did would that not count as starting you back from the beginning again? Like if it or at least starting you in a different location I mean relatively, you know, it would start me at the cantina meaning I've lost all progress for this level I feel like then I feel like the distinction is at that point is pointless Like if you lose all your progress by restarting the game Uh, like you have to restart the level. I feel like that's a significant enough like loss That whether it means you have to start from the beginning or start from there Like that's and also what happens if you're playing a game where you have save points or something And you can just restart the save points does that mean that game is impossible to have at any locks at all? Like the the only games that can have a hard lock or a soft lock against which auto save? Hmm I don't know that and I and I was assuming that there was like an element of like if you lose into a corner like that But that's an element of soft lock that you can lose yourself into a corner Um, and so it's impossible to progress because you just don't have enough Well, yeah, like I said if you were free to use your ammo throughout the whole game And you just unload every single bullet and every last piece of money you have right before a boss and save The game doesn't supply ammo in fights because it's trying to make it a little bit more difficult And it's like yay, I would assume that's I wonder if the difference there between soft locking and hard locking is whether or not it's still possible to kill the boss Well, um, well, so somebody a chat said the idea is that a design floor is a component of both of them Um, but is it a design floor if that's what the game is about? You know like if a game says there are I don't know 100 bullets in this game Um, and you need at least 10 bullets to beat the final boss or something Um, if that if if that's the case, it's like it's possible to lose into a corner But that's the game was designed on purpose that way. So there's no design floor Does that mean that game is incapable of having hard locks and soft locks? Well, maybe not soft locks, but it's probably hard locks are still counting in terms of uh, Maybe the game you have to restart the game Oh, I just meant like, um, I guess it depends on exactly how we were defining hard locks Do they involve like the game just fucking bugging out and breaking? I think all I'm realizing from this conversation is that That accepting that any definition of hard lock or soft lock is like categorically correct is not The definition is a little yeah, the definitions are unclear. So or at least they seem to vary and it doesn't factor into Yeah, I don't know how useful these definitions are now Well, yeah, especially with how many how many games there are and how many Mechanics there are and how many ways they can pull apart Uh, somebody's somebody's raised one that's interesting at the game auto saves me 0.5 seconds before a mortar hits me Is that a hard lock? It's like, well, I feel like it is right because if you restart like you'd have to restart the level But that's the problem According to some of these definitions, the fact that you could like go into the game and stay restart level means it's not a It's not either of those things Um, which seems stupid to me Like I feel like that negates that that it's a flaw that you can auto save before like you die instantly, you know Or that the game should be able to account for that I've um, I think I've done that on half life before like save before I got hit by something like that I've definitely done it before like, um Well, I remember there was that game the impossible game where you could like set a um You know, you could you could make checkpoints in practice mode And it was possible to just put a checkpoint that would have you die over and over and over again Yeah Iowa shock. I think I've done that to myself on but the thing with bio shock is I always do a new save so If you say the sky is beautiful spring is the kind of guy to say But what does beautiful mean is it really beautiful or is it our perception? Would it still be beautiful if you're blind? Oh, I mean if you don't like these conversations, that's fine Um, I was gonna say the light chat is the kind of guy who hates conversations. There we go Yeah, I don't know what to tell you like it's it's fun to have these conversations I don't think it's I mean, it's like a weird question. Uh, like like a weird observation There's a podcast where we talk about like Things for a really long time Also If someone said someone was beautiful, I think we've already had that conversation like if I've agreed. It's beautiful It's just purely subjective. Well, yeah, I don't see how anybody could not see any value in having that conversation I did I'm not definitive on hard locking and soft locking, but I want to know what everyone thinks is typical I saw someone mention that soft locking hard locking are unnamed because soft locking relates to software issues and hard locking relates to hardware issues Which I don't know about that. Ah, man. I feel like that Well, you know what's interesting about that is that I'm emulating at Gamecube right now and so Is it a hardware issue? If my pc running the Gamecube like emulating the Gamecube's hardware Fails to be able to support the software is required. You know what I mean? It's going to get hard to figure out exactly what's happening. What's wrong Well, I think I think the problem would be it would be hard to figure out Like like if a game has a bug that causes the game to freeze but the console itself was free It's like well, which is it was that the software or the hardware Um, it'd be hard to identify the cause I would imagine and of course you as a gamer Like a lot of the time is going to be hard for you to tell whether it's a software or a hardware issue, you know Yeah, or at least like the average person and at that point the definitions become I guess less meaningful This is a good old fashioned podcast of why Often do you feel that the world building and law within most forms of media should be important from the writer's perspective Uh Especially in speculative fiction, I think This is always going to be contextual, right? I think I'm trying to I'm trying to think of an example where it wouldn't be important. Um Um, does something like you know, like, uh, let's say they made a sequel to breaking bad a sequel series Would breaking bad therefore be considered lore at that point to that series? Yeah, or like haunting of like is is that even its own? Because it just uses the name but the lore is different Or oh, do you mean like lore relating to how the ghosts work sort of thing? Well the I get the world in which it Because they seem to be As far as I remember they're two completely different things Well, yeah, and people will like they can't coexist series name because the ghosts have different mechanics Which I don't even think is necessarily true. You could have multiple forms of ghosts That have different cases, you know I if and if it never mattered and it I mean Feels like a cheap answer, but if it never mattered to begin with I guess you don't have to Treat it that importantly But in that kind of scenario it Like the like if you were to say, um You need to make a game that is the What's a gamer series where each one needs to be Like it by design is it like a twilight zone episode, right? If someone would say write a twilight zone episode, do you know all the twilight zone lore in world building? But that's an anthology though, so I guess yeah Well, yeah, that's the thing if it's something of that nature Then I don't feel like the world building in lore is important Unless it's you know not counting your own obviously your own is important. Don't break your own lore and don't break your own rules um Assuming they're all completely disconnected stuff that exists Yeah, if it exists outside of anything that has anything to do with anything important or relevant And it's fine to ignore it But with practically everything that it's brought up with today Whether it be star wars or dr. Who or anything like that You're gonna have to pay attention to it Because it's part of the story and it's part of the reason why things happen as they do Yeah, I mean the the quick answer to this is just you have to pay attention to it relative to how much it's Mattering to the the current work you're doing and then that's determined by I guess in a case of like lord of the rings a lot of its History is really relevant to its story So you need to make sure you actually know what you're talking about when it comes to the lore for the characters To be able to reference it properly But then when you deal with something like the first episode of breaking bad you'd be like, what is breaking bad's lore? It's like, I don't know his used to be a teacher We would be as a teacher The lore is the collection of events that have occurred in that world Wait, what what was that contradicting in the sense that it's Well, I'm just it's I'm just what I'm saying No, I thought you because I thought you were saying the so I said like the lore would in that case be all of the Stuff that he's done prior that's going to be relevant in that particular episode, which is I guess you need to know That uh, he's been a teacher for x amount of time he has been he's had this family for this amount of time but like when compared to something like lord of the rings It's really not going to be that complicated But then again, it's really as complicated as you want it to be Like oh, how much you know you're going to end up referencing Yeah, I mean one person's personal history is probably not going to be as complicated as an entire thousand plus year history of a well fleshed out You know world But they're still both they're both still lore Well, yeah, that's why I'd stand to be lore. It's just like the question is essentially like when should Well, how important should that be from a writer's perspective? It's just like going to be as important as it's required in the moment I suppose or the buy moment by moment If you never reference any of the history of the show which is unlikely I suppose you wouldn't need to care about it too much. Just remember all the stuff you've put down in your current story It's certainly important if you want people in your audience to believe that you care about it If you're constantly breaking your own law and rules then you might foster an audience where That kind of thing just doesn't matter Yeah, that might not be something you want at all example of that like what's what's a I say that like I wouldn't reference Star Wars even though disney Don't give a shit clearly. Um, I just mean like a show or running IP whether the audience don't care about the law batwoman Because they constantly are just like forget things that happen all the time I don't even know what the fans of that show actually care about. It would be tough to figure that out They care about the message of the week and the you go girl and yes queen slay. That's what they care about The names garsden's acting is always praised for how well she captures the insanity of alice But it's always the same every time No twitching and big open eyes. That's it. It's the same twitchy quirky head tilting murder Shaking sudden speech about how unfortunate here life story is Yeah I'm gonna 30k to get my double studs. I'm gonna have to play another level Oh Yeah, hopefully that answers that Bring you seem to keep up with the wings of redemption law ever hear the liquid richard albums. They're all amazing Carrie diamond is god tier masterpiece I have not heard those. I'll have to look them up I'm I'm occasionally up to date on wings of redemption where it varies sometimes You know you go for a little while without hearing anything and then you just sort of dive down the rabbit hole And you return to the classics like look here. Look listen An old and but a good masterpiece it really kind of defined a lot of lol kawari to come Yeah It's funny to think that it all started with a 1v1 on modern warfare and bog like that was Where it all went wrong Yeah, kind of Episode four bonus. Okay dupa story Character bonus mini kit bonus. I have no idea what any of this means Is it like I have to complete these things within time limits or something? Hmm time trials and uh, like a star wars. Oh boy intense, isn't it? Yeah Um, if halo infinite doesn't acknowledge the existence of osiris that would be a okay with me god I hope infinite is good. I want to believe Yeah, I want to believe too, but I don't know about campaign multiplayer. Maybe but campaign. I'm still Yeah, don't know What's uh, what's osiris? The team with there's one of the teams Spons those blue team which is master chips team and then osiris which was locks team No, really lame even though they had buck, but he wasn't the same person. Um But then again, it was dialogue that whole game everybody's just exposes constantly Everybody talks but like nothing's happening. It's really weird What am I supposed to be doing here just collecting studs? I mean, I'm okay with that, but Holy shit Uh, look at all those pugs. Have you seen the sick new show Loki? It's about Thor's brother And it's so funny the element of choice has been removed from the MCU lol 10 out of 10 Well, yeah pretty much Unfortunate but um, you know some people still like it. I've heard people exist Yeah, I'm gonna get a Loki season two and it's gonna be even better Yeah, I'm probably a season four Oh this guy's bleeding money. I got is this saying I've got five hours to do this Oh five minutes, okay Five hours, but I say like what the fuck kind of curious since it's Arkham Knight six anniversary. If any of you guys played it. What did you think? Oh, no, no, not Arkham Knight. I'm playing Um I think it had a bit of a rocky launch, but from what I know people like it It had a rocky launch. That's one way to put it It didn't work just on pc. It's completely broken. It didn't work for some people Um, wow it was so bad that they had to take it off of steam Yeah Like months and even when it came back it still wasn't like great. Well, it's funny because um Mila had it on release and uh I remember talking about how it's been received and he like fully completed it without any issues at all He was just like, I don't know if that was happening It must have been the only one No, there was a lot of people that whipped that way for it's it wasn't consistent enough So they had to take it down People just didn't work at all. It was one of those just compatibility things as far as I would hope now It's all been written down to work for everybody, right? Uh, I'm pretty sure that they fixed it a bit, but not completely Um, but that was Warner Brothers games who as you know have a pretty shitty track record when it comes to pc ports Mortal Kombat X And also Mortal Kombat 11 like the fact that they've locked a lot of things 30 fps like the fatalities that was really stupid Yeah, to get like a patch to actually make those run at 60 fps I think um There was a bit of that with scholar of the first sense of the boxes to buying the um expanded version give you access to like 60 fps or some oh higher resolutions Guys you can't be doing this That's so bad Maybe I've got to get a million studs within five minutes if that's it. I don't think I'm doing this At least I'll know what I'm supposed to do Uh recently watched a quiet place too. It's like the first one. Everything is great except the writing which is awful Uh, well When we're talking about stories That's one of those bits you're gonna want to try and get done But uh, we're too familiar that they don't I'm sure we'll check it out at some point, but I just got no, uh, no rush on that one With the dnd creators making a new edition of this space opera ttrpg Would you be down to a campaign based on the hopes you had for the sequels? so like a dnd Because I don't want to do a campaign where I run into all of the famous star wars characters And I go to all the iconic places in star wars. You don't want to meet Boba No, I don't want to meet Boba. I don't want to see his fucking face I don't want to see Luke, I don't want to see Han. I don't want to see any of these people ever again I'm sick of them being just trotted out to fuel something else I just I want to be done with them. I want them to just be finished and gone Yeah, I don't want to feel like an accessory in somebody else's story You do get to a point if you're gonna work really hard to craft a fan fiction The respects the franchise or whatever. She's like, why didn't you just end up making your own story at that point, you know Go for it Other stars So now we know that why they released Loki in june and we know that Loki will never be the bad guy again because he's bi Also, they will never kill him. Hi rag Hello I'm so obitra. Well, it's weird calling this guy Loki Yeah, but I guess that's the name we have to use for him because they haven't given us another name Loki famous for his entertaining of the masses and looking after them during times of need That's just yes He was telling me the philanthropist Like the um the hedonist. Yeah, that's like you're right hedonistic I like how we got to announce that who he is like that's me. That's what I do. It's like he's not You're a liar It's like it's what you started doing five minutes ago, but up until this point never done that before That's not true. That's a lie. He's lying to you Nobody will get it. It's it's like the show is lying to you through a mouthpiece of someone you used to know And uh, yeah, they have But I thought they fast-tracked in episode one, but they didn't even do enough like character development You know, I mean you want to convince this that he's just straight up pretty much a good guy Even though not a few days earlier. He killed any people and I feel bad When he's like they're gonna leave all of these people here. It's like, um You don't care. Why do you give a shit? Why do you give a shit? Are you you should just be concerned with are they physically blocking my path to my goal? No, all right, then fuck him No, yeah, he really did care He doesn't like hurting people, uh, even though he seems to really enjoy getting that guy's eye out of his head Oh, come on. We all enjoy a bit of that For us in a while Remember he he made it explicit. It's not about enjoying the pain. It's enjoying people thinking he's threatening Which is weird because that's indistinguishable in every possible way from him actually being threatening Like I can do all of these things to make you afraid of me Uh Because you're extremely threatening you're super fucking powerful and you could fight Thor and survive poundings from Hulk and Suppose the interesting element of that is that they knew When trying to make Loki a good guy despite not having been on his arc That we would all be like, oh, so if you watch Avengers, he actually does some evil stuff in there So they're immediately like look at this evil stuff. He did let's recontextualize it. It wasn't that you're evil, right? And he's like, no what's not Because I'm misunderstood If people watch Loki before all of the other stuff and there's enough people watching the show and that's just Why not the case for a certain number of people and then they go back a while Let's look you guys really cool. I want more of them and so then they go back and watch all the other stuff They'll be like, wait, hold on Who's this guy? What is what an evil dick Yeah, man, I mean, I haven't seen the fist for in a while. I'm pretty sure there's a lot of references in that for his They're off. Um They're off But okay It's funny because like when she wakes up and he's just singing a song to the people it's like what the hell's going on and Your brain will just immediately be like, how is this gonna fuck the plot then because this isn't something that he would do Like they're making him do it to make something else happen, I guess It's actually true. Wow. I need a character who's like really good at killing people fast All right, only three minutes over the timer So I have to get to a million. I'm doing pretty good But the text is red means you're doing badly The problem I feel is that microsoft didn't have new successful IPs for over like 10 years now I like microsoft, but they're still trying to fix their mess from the xbox one also high moeller and fringy Um, hey, I agree. Um, they're still trying to catch up But they're getting there and they're getting there real fast So I think uh, I think if if if sony continues to be complacent, they're gonna be in a lot of trouble Like unironically like that would just be more interested in microsoft stuff Because there's more variety that just is at least like if you look at game pass is way more variety on the microsoft side Man, I don't think I got my golden brick because I did so badly, but I'm not sure who I should play as to do this yeah recommendations because Django wasn't good enough. I need someone who's really good at killing randies fast Weirdly leia was way better than uh Uh, Django Why is that weird? Um, oh He's like a bounty hunter and she's just a girl with a gun. That's probably why Wow Literally any lightsaber character vader No, that's just just regular moll See my mask is still on you don't want to hear my mask off opinions Fast-firing guns Field droid, I don't think droidica's gonna be any good Wombo fast Daja binks kills random troopers by accident true Keep jumping with han and then shoot. All right, let's try that. I'm assuming I have han There he is don't regular han solo um Have you seen tonal's new video on ds2 if so thoughts? Oh god, I didn't know that he did that He did video on ds2 doxels two seven years later Mostly pve discussed. Oh, yeah Be curious. I don't know what he said about it But obviously you guys might know that I'm not a huge fan of that game Oh, really like like I'm into it. Sure. It's pretty neat. But yeah, not not super I've been too scared to watch it. That could make sense. Yeah Any character? I don't enjoy watching lowkey No, I don't either I don't like it like there's nothing about it. That's it. It's not There's nothing interesting about it There's nothing compelling about it. I don't care about anybody. I want everyone to die And I don't care what happens Even it's more it's not so much. I don't care what happens is I guess I'm worried that the worst possible thing will happen But that's just like the sliding scale of how bad can it be? Lowkey sucks I agree. I don't know that we're gonna be getting Out of this sludge anytime soon In fact What's funny right now is we feel like we're on like an mcu mini tv ock thing, but you know those star wars shows are on the way Jit ton of them the soca one the oba one the regular man the laurian one people love them eat them up Hell yeah eat that shit up No standards There's a point that in the train part of the sagnapse over is like wait Why is it why are they fighting when lowkey can like insta kill all these people by going invisible and just stabbing them in the back Of the neck sort of thing and she can just mind control them all Slash mind control them one at a time while knocking out the others. So like why Is any of this happening? It's like well I'll have a fight scene right? Yeah, I mean yeah, we've established that lowkey can fight Thor and then he's an insanely strong frost giant Yeah, kind of he's insanely powerful Like he he he if he was in the Avengers he would be among the strongest But fuck it these guards with sticks Throw him out of a train and they beat him Fuck it Don't matter Well, we got to get them out of the train, you know Gotta delay them and then she's got to be all depressed and like we can't do it And then he manages to convince it by telling you hey, what if we could do it though and then she goes. Yeah, okay That was a really weird conversation, but what are you gonna do? The show is so fucking strange Maybe so before all the moment to moment stuff in that show is just Uh, it's all really terribly written. It's not just the broad idea It's weird that all of these organizations whether they're the time cops or the The death the dying planet police like everyone no one has guns They all have like sticks and batons like these are all super futuristic civilizations How come you're all just using sticks? like I don't even think they're sharp when You attack some old tv a it's insane. It's like wait that was your plan You were just gonna go to tackle it Then it's like well it works because none of them have any good defenses at all. They just shit Because none of yeah, because they all suck And she just inexplicably wins for the power of editing and shitty that all the fighting in these shows are terrible Yep, and that all of the fighting is terrible. Yeah, there's no reason Mando all the fighting is terrible Wandavision the fighting is terrible Falcon we're a soldier fighting is terrible. The fighting of Falcon which soldier is impressively crap Hey a lot of people thought it was good Oh, yeah I've signed a wonder if we're moving into that era. It's not about or I guess you could say it's been like this forever But it's not about making stuff as good. It's about looking like you're good Yeah Yeah, apparently it's much easier to pull off Wow. Yeah, cuz riding it's like it's really hard Just is People were in an uproar When they fucked up Luke's character but With all these other people they don't give a shit They don't care It was almost like tlj inoculated people Wait, well, it's not that You know dying down. Yeah, that's kind of Whether it's Loki or Wanda or Anyone in Falcon the winner soldier. It's like fuck it You're all just they've all been assassinated They've all been taken by someone else and used for some agenda or to just pump out money in shitty sequels Fuck it. You cared when they did it to Luke Was he the exception? I guess He's pretty much like it as far as we look at it. It was done to fucking Superman in the Snyder cut But that like yeah, he couldn't comment on that because he likes nightly that seemed to be the answer Like man What are we gonna? Are we gonna praise avatar for being Cameron's creative vision? Is it gonna get the Snyder cut treatment? Nobody's gonna give him that even though it is actually his creative vision Yeah, probably if you're so shitty at analyzing media that you felt the Snyder cut was anything other than Poor shit garbage then maybe I don't know It the Snyder cut should be one of those Like those test things that you show to people. It's like army of the dead and stuff like that You show it to people. There's still not much though Give him something a little shorter Oh, yeah, like yeah, give him a Yeah, because army of the dead's like a blur in my mind Yeah, lucky that was reported so that we can remember it through watching back But uh, yeah, that was was it two and a half hours. I think army of the dead. Yeah. Yeah, something like that felt longer Yeah Do we praise TLJ because round head had a vision? No, we don't Fuck no, we don't nobody did So, um getting better at this Han is definitely the one to go with Avatar I'm sorry. What was the um Oh, just the this this challenge. I'm doing it's pretty tough, but Han Solo is a good character to do it with Um Also, it's playing the soundtrack. I'm just gonna talk and then we should be there we go I don't know if that'll clip us or not probably will um Hear the news about the Star Wars acolyte show they purposefully hide writers who've never seen star wars Oh and good day rags Reminds me of 343. We got people who had to halo. It's like why This is the thing man Like if someone said wait, do you think it's impossible someone to write something good if they haven't seen stars before? I'd be like when you're writing for Star Wars like I mean don't you need to be aware what the fucking story is? I don't know why Yeah, they this person must have had the correct politics or they knew the right person or something Because the idea that normal people of you're gonna write a star wars show You should probably know about star wars Yeah Like it's it's so dead obvious to us. We wouldn't have even like maybe thought about it as being a thing because it's so obvious Well, yeah, you probably should Know about star wars and care about it. All right. I'm coming for noray Specifically in chat coming right for you see that right there That hey turn the music off in the options. What does that say, huh? That says off because this game is so stupid that it still plays music every once in a while when you put it to off Do all the other options work? um Yes, so that's good It's not it turns all of the in-game music I say in-game like in When I can move do my shit like between menus all of the music still plays. It's like that was fucking oversight wasn't it? But the like music off. Well, you're still gonna get some The way this game works is the they respawn all of the barrels for me to destroy so I can't just go to literally keep moving around my size, you know Probably how you do it? Uh avatars just a remake of fin gully the lost rainforest I mean all of people people ever say about avatars that it's just a copy of something else Yeah Carbon lived among them and then wendy Yeah, we ran it over to build something. Yeah And then and then she sold the rights to James Cameron And lost everybody and cotton became he was that was a glendech parody. I remember Where he's crying about how much he loves his school And then he has to be a student principal. It's like Um, oh what was he at the end the the the guy with the announcer voice was reading the message It's like why is our student president such a fat fucking dickhead? It's like well, I couldn't agree more It's really funny You'd fucking do the double jump with honey shoots three shots Wow That's just overpowered, you know, I think Han's broken needs an if The lego games truly respect the characters and we can all agree with that It's actually pretty cool Is molar also the internet historian? We do not sound the same Right, what's that score people think I sound like an internet historian I don't know why I don't hear that at all. You have completely different accents I don't know. Like maybe that's the meme like it's the we put on an accent to play the other or something Hmm. I don't know Is that a capture me in this area? Is it keep making me collect? We're moving out I guess James passions are blue cat people on and diving deep underwater I mean, yeah, if you look into the production of abyss That was a big old passion flumps for mr. James and if you watch drinkers video on it You'll find and I didn't know this apparently he was like close to dying on the set because um You scuba diving and um His tank wasn't working And he tried to like surface And some like a helper dive the safety person like came to get him and try to make him use his Thing because it wasn't in his mouth Assuming that was the solution and he almost killed James Cameron because he didn't realize what the problem was Oh my god, that's like that's paraphrasing. I was just like jeez. I had no idea And then after all that James decided to go back down to the Marianas trench Yum I got mother south poker. I always loved the uh the production of titanic I'm not like a huge fan of that film, but just a really I like the made film. Yeah Last hour. I mean That would be an example of where I'm like even if the script's got its issues Like you can appreciate the film making more so than like a lot of other films I find that absolute the way we're moving culturally is we have less and we're like Desensitized to CGI even though it takes so much for people to make what they make in those It's just like it's just not as impressive to the eye anymore I think it's just because everybody does it now. So it's like expected. It's just a part of the process I'm ashamed like in terms of like a lot of courage us to not appreciate people for it Because like I was you know, the low key sequence. I was just like yep money While when you see money, you know people releasing waterfalls at the right time lots of actors having to do something You just like whoa this Everyone has to be on their a game There's no rich James Cameron the bravest pioneer. No budget too steep. No seat too deep. Who's that? It's him James Cameron It's a nice little song It is I'm not gonna do it again Do a tough one It's okay because There's more questions to answer Avatar 2 is coming out and you've got to deal with it. I mean, I'm not like I'm not like sad about it. I don't care really Yeah, I don't really care I'll watch it probably. I just just out of curiosity I feel like the likelihood of it being good is just higher than a lot of the stuff we're getting so Yeah It's just hilarious considering it's like, yeah Is it Correct me if I'm wrong, but it does seem like everybody's everybody's shitting on it already, right? Nobody's really in its camp No, um Because everybody I don't know. Yeah, everybody's just super cynical about it. It's funny because I'm less cynical about it than other stuff Yeah It's like, you know, you clearly want to make it it could be I Mm-hmm Sorry, I wasn't clear story mode is internet historian secret gaming channel. Whoever plays Jeff Bezos on that channel sounds like Frankie. Oh Apparently you sound like someone on there. Yeah, I mean fair enough. I suppose. Yeah a lot of australians out there Jeff Bezos famous australian in fact, they almost feel like they're disproportionately represented and um In like internet figures. I feel like I see australians a lot more than I probably should considering population Well, because there's only 25 million of us um Well, I mean, I feel like you say that but I feel like um, I feel like it all lines up, right? There's a lot of canadians and a lot of british people and americans and australians and that's I would say the same place to british people to a degree as well But they are I say Jews as australians ah um Yeah, but I guess it's not a parrot like in the uh, and uh Because australian accent is quite distinct Yeah, that's that's what I I feel like I see the amount of americans I probably should they're the majority of the present like content creators. I see Um, well, I mean I'd say it's no it's a pretty simple calculus right like if you if we if we use america as the base for every for every um Five americans. There should be one british person um and for every Like 10 americans. There should be one australian Yeah, I feel like I see more australians on there If you don't see that many canadians, but maybe it's because I can't detect them all the time Well, I would say that there are a lot of canadians that you just don't know because they just sound like americans for the most part You hear them say a boot Well, yeah something like that. There's usually a slip. Um In fact, I feel like canadians are not underrepresented at all Especially if you think about like actors, there are a lot of canadians For actors Canadians Yeah, no, I know um But yeah, yours underrepresented fucking russians I feel like russians are definitely underrepresented. Yeah, the main the most popular one wasn't even russian i guess russian american It's russian and it's hard Yeah, now russian is gonna have to be kind of underrepresented too Yeah, I tried that once Who else do we need more of in this world? French people I guess That's fine though What should we see more of you should see more um, huh African youtubers just from from africa itself from african nations feel like they're underrepresented like, you know How about Yeah YouTubers and a lot of them You don't see it. You don't see a lot of um as tech high priests. No, you don't I've noticed that Yeah, I feel like maybe we can see a couple more of them. I feel like there's very few of them in the let's play arena specifically Yeah, um Well, you know, I'll give it time Hopefully diversity will come through and actually get the voices that we don't hear a lot more of In today's batwoman the guy at the hospital said oh the guy at the hospital said Where are we? Um, they couldn't run blood work because of insurance hospitals can't deny service They'd run the test and bill her later that scene wouldn't happen. That's a good point They uh, yeah, that's why the hospital is the way the message They do point they actually do the thing you just have to pay for it Like they're not going to let you die because you don't have insurance. They'll just let you get bankrupt Well, someone on top comment on the video that said you guys missed it But apparently that guy was on his way to a code Meaning like somebody's in serious trouble when she said implicit bias stuff, which is like bro Well, the writers they just know that they have codes that would just they're just doing something I'm on my way to a code that's that because that's like something they say that's hospital speak so Yeah Well, I mean I think it's one of those things where they forget like that being a doctor It's a profession and professions always have rules and guidelines and things you just have to do like a code of conduct lawyers have it doctors have it psychologists have it And it's important. It's it's a it's a key part of the profession Yeah, and I'm not saying that of course that all of these things are right But there's probably There's probably a good reason why a lot of these things exist. Yeah. Yeah, um, I'm like it's easy to Um So with the way that they they complain that she's been pushed to the back of the queue or whatever Or she's not being dealt with fast enough because of implicit bias toward like the fact she's black or whatever That was my first complaint where I was like, they don't fucking have time to be racist in a hospital They're like rushing around trying to get they are busy in hospitals all the time. I do they look at the Paper it says yes beads or hospital like that would be my first question They're busy as if they're all sitting around a waiting room. They're like who's next like black person It's like we can probably push them back a bit They they want to as chat pointed out. They want to fix you so that you could pay them An alternatively it is a mutually beneficial relationship Um ari mary's clinic consider this there's no record of the medic medication that she's given to people for drug interaction purposes People would die Absolutely. Yeah There's a reason why it's regulated Like yeah to get through all of the reasoning for why what she's doing is wrong She'd need to like look at the history of law and medicine I feel like we've got to start earlier than that to just like she's so stupid like It just feels like a really simple. It's like you guys Have you ever wondered why people have to go to university for like six years to get good at this? It's because the human body really complicated. Um, no, no, I can be a lawyer No, no, I could just be a doctor. I can just work at a pharmacy. It's yeah Like you know, these are things that take years to understand and get confident at You can't as a student set up a click. Yeah Because because that's one of the people mean about it I like why do I have to wait 15 minutes to like get my medication? It's just up there on the wall It's like well because a pharmacist checking to make sure that whatever you're getting is it going to kill you Like it's it's important work It needs to be regulated that needs to be accountability Because again if merit kills somebody she's just going to jail for manslaughter Like there won't be any process that will protect her Yeah, if someone gets super sick that she treats and that person goes to like an actual doctor Or to the police or something or someone finds them and brings them to an er Like yeah, you're in so much deal Yeah, she's gonna be in trouble. Where did you get this crazy medication? You have such in such condition or such in such blood type. So this Like this is of course, I'm you she might maybe should have died But this is the thing we talked about. I think in a I think it's currently an unreleased e-fap For a batwoman, but like the point Mary is Like she's always right She never messes up and it's easy to try and make messages like this Where you don't have to worry about accountability When you just invent a perfect character who never makes mistakes And that gets in the way of your message with that woman as a show as it has the problem That i'm pretty sure all of these crappy like cw shows have where everybody on them is like a genius and then Everything there's nobody who's ever just competent at what they do They're always incredibly competent And it's fucking annoying There's like Yeah, it's it's stupid stupid show Reductive simplistic answer. There's a yeah, I think that's the thing that really frustrates me the most is like Now you may identify a system as bad or flawed and in need of reform But there's a reason why the system is the way that it is like that happened over time It's yeah, there's an explanation for that and it's not going to be as easy You can't just tear down the system. You need to find a way to fix it. Yeah There is a And you can't just make radical changes on a whim Because you think that in your self-righteous zeal you discovered some issue these institutions change Slowly and over extremely large periods of time Yep Well, that's what and you need to be part of the institution to fix it From like a civilian's voters viewpoint They often see like the idealist become just another politician when what might actually be happening is the idealist discovers There are actual ways to get things sorted There are reasons why things can't just be the way you want them to be Then you actually try and work from within the system and then it's like you sold out It's like what do you want revolution? It's like were you gonna be picking up a gun sir to do that or Which is the things all the way they are for a lot of fucking reasons not just because evil people said so Yeah, it's like I've been watching a Some videos on weird rules and sports And how these weird rules happened and a lot of times it's because somebody was Doing this thing that they really didn't like and so they had to make a rule against it And that's sort of like how a lot of these institutions work That's why hospital systems are the way they are is because oh like we probably should have this as a policy Like oh, this could be bad. We should probably make this as a policy that's you know Oftentimes how it just needs to be You can't just make all the rules and boom you're done And you can't and you certainly shouldn't be making rules based on how you feel at that moment Fuck Like I know you feel you're doing the right thing. Which is the whole point of jacob's thing I know you you you feel like you're doing the right thing and it does feel good But there is a pragmatic reality that has to be accounted for Jacob going above and beyond by not arresting her Like you understand what you've done is very illegal But I'm gonna I'm gonna let you go because I like you you're my you're my step daughter, so I'm gonna give you a chance and uh The responses I fucking because this is the thing it's not in the Coverage yet. I think it's the next episode the episode after that, but she obviously restarts her clinic And let's just say the show is behind her on that one Oh, it's yeah When yeah, it's the show. Yeah, we've just always felt that it was Frog at illegal and stuff The show like has it be the a vilitous antagonist known as jacob is the one that has the perspective that we've always had. We're like wow Yeah It's a difference. It's kind of grossed Yeah, uh, it's annoying too, but that's batwoman Batwoman is an excellent example for when the message gets in the way of all reason and logic And then fundamentally like a message you're doing here guys Well, yeah, I think more off-license fucking medicine places that use actual drugs and go off record and then people have basically as jacob said experiments That line was actually good That was a great line. It was yeah I guess it's just baby's first political commentary make the world better do better And it's like all right cool. Uh, what are your solutions? Realistically aside from opening up illegal and unethical Underground clinics to to fix the health care system in the united states. It's like what are your actual solutions? That's not our job. That's good job good enough that they simply want better Yeah, because you know, there are no hitler when it's better It's always the go to yeah Uh, it's not often that people really really do like do things that they believe are evil What do you think of contractions in storytelling? I don't know. I can't and don't and couldn't I'm fine with them The save some time. It's just normally how people speak gives it a bit of realism. That makes sense to me. I'm fine with it I'm not sure what they're referring to maybe like reducing down something that could have been longer in order to get like It's a bit more abstract in terms of what it's referring to storytelling wise. I don't know Um Resident evil six tip one jake stab in a gauge quickly refills while charging up his mealy dash attack sequence allowing for rapid melee attacks It's not advised against zombies, but it's great against Yavo Okay, keep that in mind. Yeah Resident evil six tip two when playing as Helena if the last current shell in the hydra shotgun is used as one of her acrobatic quickshots She'll immediately reload all three shells Wow, that's nimble I'm pretty excited to see to hear you guys did an efat movies on my favorite movie the mask of sorrow any idea when it'll be out also high rags Hi a long time So this isn't said to exaggerate. It could be a year and a half before you see that We're all gonna be fat. I'm coming out Yeah We're just creating a huge backlog that all the editors can chew on and things can be released a relatively uh consistent pace, let's say Um Yeah, no idea when exactly it's gonna come out Please say in davie jones voice No, be a rivier. You are a liar and you'll spend an eternity on this subreddit Oh, is this for someone in chat that you don't like can no be a rivier. I recognize that name one of the use um I don't know we haven't been doing voices today. Okay. I don't want to start a huge tidal wave of that shit We go plenty to get we don't want to hear anymore. Yeah. Yeah, koala. Yeah, like to any of that We don't need any more of that. I'm partially on board with that. I find it amusing Uh, it's it is amusing because I do know somebody who does sound very similar to uh to rags. This is australian voice Yeah, it's it's um, it's weird. Most of them sound like that actually fringy's being humble But most of them do sound like that. Uh, you notice all these uh, the australian actors They they have to learn the the accents that they use in movies and stuff But when they're at home with their wives loved ones are in private Uh, they will that they they will sound like that. So when they answer in the affirmative in movies, they're like, yes Yeah, well, that's acting's hard. That's the thing acting is difficult I mean it is just a part of it. Yeah, but I don't Yeah, it's just not I'd say that Is it like a cult where you're not allowed to admit that's how you say yeah Well, he could if it was reality that we're not allowed to but we don't say yeah That sucks man. What's the bad for you guys over there? I feel you should be free to say ye Wow, how I mean if you're being held hostage by all of the the sheep in uh in wales blink twice, all right I mean, I can't blink with the avatar, but With like that's just public knowledge. I don't even know why you would ask They're very open about the subjugation of wales I'm just waiting for america to decide one day that they might give us a hand But I know that we have to offer more than just anthony hopkins up to the world stage. You know, we gotta do more than that Anthony hopkins was out I only hope to save wales No, I'm running out of time. I don't actually want to have to do this all again uh Hey rags, who's better daddy material re five chris or re eight chris also hi rags Hi re five chris or re eight chris re eight I think he's more believable re five chris is kind of I don't believe he's real Yeah, that's fair But resonant evil eight chris is a legitimately handsome Well-built gorgeous man. He's just an idiot But you know what daddy a daddy don't have to be smart. I'll take care of that. He's just gotta take care of me I'm gonna fix him. Maybe I like the technologies. I maybe I like him the way. I maybe I just want him to be Just just that way Um, I will say though he does he just just outright shoot mia does that cost him daddy points when he's shooting a mom? Or do we take the context that she's Miranda? I guess we get we do know the context of it in which case if we know the context he's just like that part Like he was like he was a chad to do it but an idiot for just how we followed up on everything Yeah We're gonna do this. You gotta stick the landing chris. Yeah According to someone on reddit free. I'm sorry. I was with you But can you I can't think of a faster way to invalidate your arguments faster than saying that there's loads of weight What sorry the fact that you said you got an argument from reddit means it's invalid like that's not how that works It's just not how it is said if it if it's from reddit, it's wrong. That's just everyone knows it Reddit is just the birthplace of wrongness bad if you if you have a reddit account. You've lost life Damn it. Don't tell anyone I have a reddit account, man. I'm gonna lose by like what oh wait I'm not gonna lose at all. It goes to 10 right. I should have noticed that. All right. We good. We won. We did it Um hashtag fringy was right hashtag say fringy's name hashtag fringy lives matter Of trillions. Yeah, so I'll confirm maybe Maybe I think the last 20 seconds of hitch cocks vertigo are pretty rubbish Actually, I feel like the movie's only okay and not one of his best thoughts I have not seen vertigo since I was a kid. So I don't think I've seen it at all I think the only hitchcock movie I've seen is the birds Oh, you haven't seen psycho I haven't actually no Oldie but a goodie Um Hey guys, any of you into jazz? I've discovered an album called cosmic chicken highly recommend Oh Cosmic chicken enjoys him some jazz Um, yeah, I I I don't typically listen to jazz. What about you guys? Oh, I'm not me. I'm not a not really a jazz guy I don't have anything against jazz. I just don't really How much Fair enough. Um The game bugging you out of succeeding is neither a hard or soft lock. It's the game bugging out Well, according to several sources on reddit, it's that is a hard lock or a soft lock depending on Yeah, yeah, it'd be interesting to know if that actually counts as a new category or not. I I'm not sure about that like A lot of the time it can they can be very much involved in defining it Also, wait, do I have to do the entire campaign? Is that what super story is? Guys, I wasn't I didn't agree to this I'm willing to do one But doing them all and oh my god. Do you actually have to You know I like collecting stuff But the idea that I just have to redo the whole story All in one go rather than one at a time I don't know if that the entire campaign for episode four. Yes, doesn't that seem a little bit lame It's like do the story again you get a golden bricks like thanks And I got to get a hundred k for every single one. Oh, and that's what the timer is I've got to beat all six episodes in under an hour I don't like this. I am against this um Akuma never more says journey rags says strange or fringy says nor say What now so this person likes it when I say journey when you say strange and when fringy says nor Huh strange Hmm But super No 100 k for all the levels. No, I figure that wait you have to get 100 k for all levels As in like I don't have to worry about studs now At that point I just have to speedrun, right? We'll see about that Oh, you're right. I don't need any more studs. All right, well, we'll just rush through the levels. I should be able to do that Um a blood-borne question. Do you think they screwed it up by not giving Girmann the first name Nicholas as an innocent reference to Lovecraft's cat? Can't be racist dips. He was my favorite tally-tubby Well, uh I I think that they they have many missed opportunities when adapting Lovecraft's work. Let's be honest Um a hard lock is like the Priscilla glitch in Dark Souls Have to start a brand new character to continue I don't remember that uh That glitch specifically But any glitch that makes you restart the whole game cool Not when I would call fun All right, Obi-Wan, let's go Maya soft lock that's the true question you must ask yourself progress through this will Do you guys think source material matters? Hi rags Hi, is that one more time? Do you think source material matters? um Yeah So I guess generally it's a pretty general question. So my general answer is yes any more context it would be like You know if someone was to adapt Star Wars the ot into a tv show like they just make a tv show out of the storyline of the three movies Do you like do you care about the ot? I'd be like well, yeah, of course I do and then it's like so do you mean in regard to something? Rather than just do I care about it? Yeah, I kind of need the follow-up for that to be able to answer that question better, but the short answer would be yes Now this is why I've toyed with the idea of writing the story Finn should have had but in a completely different setting So it becomes its own story I mean, yeah, if you wanted to write, you know If you thought to yourself, I want to write it so that he's a disgruntled Stormtrooper And then you go actually wait, why don't I just make my own empire my own stormtrooper set and this guy who like deviates from it It's like yeah, just do that You don't really have to make it a star wars fanfiction That's how inspired things maybe are yes hours can inspire your um Your your own story you could take inspiration and elements from all the things that you like and mix them up and Match them into something that's you know unique and its own thing oil and mash them Do you do anything? your ideas Rags isn't a star wars ttrpg just a space opera Now it depends on what you have in it. You can have a star wars setting, but there's nothing operatic about it So they somehow fix a major plot hole all the time agents are variants from earth and the entire tva is probably a lie But then they mischaracterize Loki. I don't think that's fixing anything Like telling us that all of those people weren't created by the spaceless. It doesn't help anything like what does that solve? And if you want to yeah, they still do the thing you're like, well the spaceless is probably aren't real I'd be like well some things real some things doing some like they literally go through timelines wipe them out and delete people Like we know something is happening here You can pretend all you want that it's not but we know it is Yeah, they're still doing the thing and the doing the thing is the issue Like I don't know why you think on top of it or the rule on top of it. It's just like it's the wise I'm really fucking frustrating. They didn't talk about any of that What's that lady Loki having captured so many people in her time interrogated this out of all of them She's a wealth of knowledge. She's decided to take down the tva and Loki's just like Oh, wait the tva aren't there because they were created by spaceless and that's like fucking three quarters into the episode like wow Why not ask you everything? Loki's like a definitely a knowledge of power kind of guy Apparently not though in this show. Well, that was that was Loki. This Loki is different. This is broke. Yeah And I wish it weren't broke because I like Loki Yeah, not fair like joking Yeah, I wouldn't call it fixed and Loki is a character is weird I guess you can call it assassinated, but like he's just he's acting so fucking odd Um, it's just annoying to watch Uh, john macafe just got epsteined rip king Um, I don't really know much about him as a as a person, but yeah, yeah me neither Apparently he he was he was very adamant that he would never ever ever kill himself So everybody's very like what the fuck happened Right now. It sounds like he uh, he's had a crazy life from the little I've heard about him Have care how you speak. Loki's beyond reason, but he is of asgard and my brother He killed 80 people in two days. He's adopted. Yeah. Yeah, it's a great forgotten about that. It's not only a great line But unfortunately it means he fucking killed 80 people And then he's like, oh no, we can't leave these people behind No Feel bad for these civilians. We must help them Yeah Loki always the philanthropist the humanitarian kind of guy that you want to have around when you're worried about what's gonna happen You little shit This is one of the most frustrating things that can happen in this game And it's so small when the jar was when you're playing as a droid fucking stun you and you have to sit there for five seconds Doing nothing fucking killed all of you Anakin was right About everybody not just Tuscan readers Uh, the consumer is inoculated against all threats and arguments But call him what he is and watch as he recoils in horror. I have been found out The thing is a little these people think that the um the current one you're watching be it Loki About them into soldier on division and laurian season fucking one or two But that is just top tier television and then like a week later. They won't give a shit And then the next thing will be top tier television and the next thing will be top tier television Then they'll forget it all ever happened And they couldn't tell you anything about it Um, so this is a total non sequitur. Have you guys heard of a crypto called titan? No Um, no So have you you've heard of mark cuban right or maybe you've heard the name? Like uh, yeah Yeah, I'm a tank guy talks about crypto and stuff There was a crypto called titan Um that started it. I think it was like four dollars It got all the way up to 60 dollars and in a few hours it dropped like 60 dollars to fucking less than a penny Meaning the person who has all the investment in that is very sad right now Dude, that's like That's how does that happen That's what happened Um Yeah, titan has now shares the same fate as titan from infinity war. Yeah Uh crypto would be it be a volatile place. All right Be careful out there. That's yeah guys carefully with your krypton or whatever it is I want to be fucking up That'll come after you Fringy, can you elaborate on the 343 hating halo bit? Um, I believe that there was an article or an interview where it was explicitly said that they hired people who hated halo Let me see if I can find it for you Was what what is the context though? They haven't like a bit of a joke or So it was the idea that when they were um when they were working on I think this was before halo 4 came out it was the idea that um it was the idea that They were getting as they were making their team um, all right, here it is so um There was an article the making of halo 4 a story about um Let me just read the whole thing holmes recalls Holmes was one of the creative directors when the team completed a small piece of the halo That he described as a very traditional halo User research showed that people thought it was a lot of fun And it showed that the team was capable of making a halo game That was true to what the series was about 343 scrapped at home said as it was too traditional It continues quote We had people who we hired who hated halo because of x says uh o'connor But what that really meant was I feel this game could be awesome because of white input that i'm gonna bring to it I want to prove it and i'm passionate about proving it So we ended up with a bunch of people who were genuinely passionate about the product That's a huge advantage and it helped in hiring and forming our team um It's a general rule we try not to overreact through the loud vocal minority says holmes There were a lot of mistakes we made along the way which we knew weren't necessarily the right way to do things But given that we had to uh given what we had to deliver and our time frame We accepted that these are necessary mistakes and we acknowledged them So yeah, I think I think most people got hung up on the myself included We hired people who hated halo because of x. It's like what is going on like Why are you hurrying people who hate this game? It's a weird like It works out to make a good product not like good halo. That doesn't sound Hmm Why are you working on a halo game, you know? And it's like is it impossible that it could work? Well, no, I don't think it's impossible, but like it's a weird It's like it happens. It's almost like coincidental Yeah, I guess it's just a matter of why would you want to work on halo if you hated Was it the implication that they hated parts of it rather than all of it? I think that's the logic, but honestly hating parts of a game. That's that excellent And then you create something like halo for it makes me wonder the things you hated were the things that were really good about it Like your judgment is just a skew, you know Yeah, what is it you hated and like like why? The things like is it some tiny inconsequential thing and like that's a weird thing to get hired for I guess the problem is we hated because it's like sprint and armor abilities that and I'm like weapon loadouts These were the changes you made Did you hate that in halo? It was fair balance starts. Did you hate that you couldn't run? Did you hate that you or did you or were you fine with it? And you just wanted to try and do something new or Did you just botched the execution? Which is probably just what happened, but Um, yeah, I just think that a lot of the ideas that they had for halo 4 were really stupid. That's all like I know we've talked about this. I'm pretty sure we still disagree But like I fundamentally don't think that you can do a halo game with customizable like in terms of weapons Um, they're too distinct from one another. Uh, that's where I don't think that will work People would just gravitate towards the dmr or like the br or the carbine if those are available That seems like they've learned their lesson. I mean they did in halo 5 fair starts and all that um So it's important it's moving in the right direction. I guess it's just I just don't like taking something that isn't yours and feeling like the first time around you need to do something radically different Maybe wait a little while do something a bit safer and build up from there, you know Yeah Because remember before three's history now that what have they created while being with halo? Uh halo 4 5 6 6 being infinite that's what they've made um, and they've had oh and the master chief collection that was their fault um, and um And support on like smaller projects like other projects like halo wars 2 was made by creative assembly not 343 And i'm pretty sure the mobile games were made by other studios. Maybe they were in-house, but yeah, they don't have a big list But they had a team That was filled with a bunch of people in the industry who had worked on like other projects before But they were a team that was just made to make halo, which is not common But that's what you do as a developer. You just assemble especially of all things halo You didn't just like have some it's not just some ip that you just gave to these dudes Like this is halo that shit would sell systems Like that was the that was the trilogy in the good of days Well back back when our 343 was made that was around 2009 halo 3 was still on top of the world um It was it was only starting to reach the point where call of duty was was beginning to sort of overtake it In terms of popularity I guess it's just because you see the thing where they talk about that that's studios foundation It's like what are we we are a team of a bunch of people from different Some of us have never even worked in video games before we worked for like ilm and pixar and stuff And we're coming to make the biggest gaming franchise like one of the biggest gaming franchises in the world It's like holy crap. Like this is not I don't know. This seems like a bad idea. Um And I think I think one of the things that really hurt them was they were quite arrogant initially There's there's you know signs of like arrogance looking through like we're making it bigger and better I always hate that quote bigger and better the fuck does that mean? It's gonna be bigger and they did to halo what disney did to the mcu except gamers are a little bit smarter than that Wow, yeah, I go to me right yet. It's I think the problem is you can't trick people as easily with video games Yeah, but like we can see all the markers in low key like seeing where he gets sad Seeing where there's a big oneer Seeing where he's he's said he talks about his mum. It's like this will be good enough. The episode's already good now. That's it Doesn't matter how everything else goes Uh, that's we've said games you gotta play them and so I know they seem to get away with a lot less These will get away with shit, but you know Fucking like oh Can they can they get away with you know everything all the time? They get away with the fucking fear flashes like I don't think so it'll Little frictional, I don't think I'll be Buy them what they put out next very quickly Yeah, I'm gonna be Sometimes rebirth slips through the cracks of incredible disappointments, but man then you get reminded of it. You're like, uh, maybe that I can't forget that they They had an in-game mechanic of constant fucking jump scares and they actually had the balls to call it fear flashes Absolutely abhorrent like fuck you world. We all know what these are We've all fucking seen horror content before and you might be like, yeah, that's pretty bad Like, you know anybody doing that. That's pretty bad. It's like these are the fucking frictional games that did it It isn't just anybody bad face Lucasfilm corporate higher-ups have access to extensive pre-production incredibly advanced storyboarding and directing tech Upper production staff is more essential to them than a boom operator. The craft is dead I really honestly think it's just you could get a good one if you say for example, taiko waititi is making a stall It should be good Yeah, it's like we gotta head your bets and hopefully the person who actually is talented is allowed to do their Jenkins is making one Yeah, so With the with her two outings of wonder woman She's she's got one more right before she's officially I think she's doing the star wars one Yeah, yeah, so it'll be I think star wars the next one. So that'll be the one where we see Oh, no, isn't she doing a cleopatra movie or something as well with gal Gadot starring as cleopatra Oh, no, but she's a horrible actress. Yeah, I know. It's uh, it's nice. I'm pretty sure that is something that's happening. Hold on I remember reading about it. I was such a like We have to see wonder woman 84. I remember I was stream on it. We just like we're like, okay It's time to time to say like gal Gadot's a shit Let's let's not meds words on this one Yeah, how how this feels super unfair to me, right? You look at this list and it's like, so what do you got? You've got three confirmed upcoming movies as a director So like the next decade you're fine. You're totally fine. And you know it Yeah, like off the back of what wonder woman. Are you kidding me? Oh I remember liking it when I first watched But I think it was just cuz after so much crap DC content, but then Then you realize. Oh, it's just as bad as the rest of them It was chris pine. He was carrying that whole movie on his back Sisyphus pushing that wait, is it What's the guy pushes up to the mountain the sisyphus, right? The big boy. Yeah, but I don't know if I don't know if that's apt because obviously the idea comes back down. He does it again I suppose you see I could say he tried for 84, but I mean he tried it. He got crushed It's just a bit crushed by his boulder. Yeah Slipped and he got crushed a man crushed by his boulder Rip John McAfee My 60 is sorry 19 year old sister was recently admitted to the ICU with blood clots and the doctor suspected it to be A cocktail of a birth control in the Pfizer vaks Damn, yeah, I'm hearing some stuff about some of these. Well, I don't know if you two never mind I mean, I figure it's not it's known, isn't it like that that there are instances There's a lot of things that are known that we can't talk about I don't know that's on the list right now I know something that's talked about is that some of the there is um There have been a few cases of people who've developed blood clots Which I think may be linked to some of the some of the vaccines like AstraZeneca and Pfizer, but I'm pretty sure it's like incredibly rare Statistically extreme that it would it would hit anybody and I'm pretty sure that vaccines throughout history are probably going to have Unforeseen consequences and we're going to do the best we can Well, we do know that like even with stuff like measles and stuff There are there are a small number of people who do who do get side effects that are pretty severe But it's all a balancing act, right? What are the what are the side effects of taking the vaccine versus if you got sick with covid? Yeah, um, and then Well, it's ultimately up to individuals to decide but um, but I guess not to distract. Yeah, I hope you Said yeah, I hope she I hope she gets uh, that's that's really unfortunate. I'm sorry to hear that Mm-hmm Yeah Hilariously Marius performing every type of medicine. She sets bones perform surgery treats infectious diseases and treats cancer patients I mean, yeah, she's great What can you say, right? You're like She does all of the it's incredibly dangerous what she's doing. Um She seems to have no understanding of that whatsoever. So Again Jacob having that talk with her was the kind of thing that if we picked up the show from that episode That's something that we would want in there. That's why I like that scene so much I'm just oh my god. It feels for a moment like the world has consequence And that it reacts to things having existed I'm what's insane Pretty sure we talked about it, but like Jacob in that episode does so much for Mary Um, and she just doesn't give a fuck because let's make it legit You know, we'll catch you a doctor. You have some other people Yeah, that's that's that's what he says down the line. I think which is incredible that she denies that too and she says She says something like you She says some of the pisses us all off. I can't remember exactly. I think it's the next two episodes or the next one but what I meant was you know, he did all this like like he tries to help her rescue a protector and um reassure her in that whole like hostage situation And like they've just got out of that and during it he discovered she's got this Operation going and he doesn't like I don't even she understands like he doesn't do anything too illegally He just says shut it down, which is like, yeah, that's better than she deserves Like what what are you? What else was he gonna do like and then you're like, oh she doesn't understand how law works. Okay I don't really do anything at that point Jacob is the hero Gotham needs and the one it deserves Yeah, so they'll hunt him because he can take it I would I would watch the show You're dark Jacob I think I made a joke in that video where it's just like his he gets started just by he just keeps killing bat women Like they keep rising and he keeps stopping them. He becomes like a punisher figure All right Um, you're rolling there. I I'm not entirely sure how I get I think I have to go this way Yeah, that makes sense I saw somebody mentioned the chat that apparently uh, angry Joe gave episode three of Loki at 10 I'm just like I don't understand Yeah, that's because angry Joe is a meme reviewer who doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about um, if you give Loki Anything any of the episodes a 10 out of 10 That's as good as you can get you can't get better You can't get better like no room for improvement. Yeah, no you it's it's perfect. There's nothing that's wrong. You can't get better Um, like blind manor Hill house fucking and all that stuff Nah That shit's boring Loki is fun and quirk and it's exciting and it's amazing. Look at the shots and the music all these things that are not the writing Look, there's a moon and it broke up. Wow the cg. Just just be just be honest and just rate the cgi Just rate the cgi write the cgi and the cinematography and the set design Yeah, don't rate the show It's what I think about when people like you guys are limited because you only ever talk about writing What do you mean? I wish we could talk about more than just the writing, but we need to get past the writing That's like the baseline We can talk about blind manor and like how it looks and how great the acting is and all that like and the music But that's because the show is like competent on a writing level Yeah, the atmosphere ideas and stuff for a second Anyone will appreciate the idea behind the tva and stuff. I'm just like, I mean we can't even like It's all gobbled nonsense Yeah, but the idea of there being like these sort of time-wisody people who are in control Just Wow What's that the idea? Yeah I um I don't think I mentioned it yet. I finally watched citizen kane chat and I was so I was really impressed by it I think it's a really great movie and um, it's it's pretty great I really liked it and the cool thing is when i'm watching a movie like that where everything's sort of working I can look at the shots and think about what it means because I try I think it's just the thing of like I trust the That everything is really purposeful because the writing is so good Um, so I can sit there and I can look at a cool shot and wonder what what they're going for Or a certain performance or a look and wonder what that's meant to mean But the reason why I can do that is because I don't have to be sitting there thinking about whether things are functioning things are just functioning um And you can sit there and appreciate all the extra stuff We've got to get past that boundary first because the writing is what props it all up If the writing is wonky, you just you can't do much with it from there. That's all Yeah, for those who haven't seen this in kane, we do it's worth paying Citizen kane is absolutely worth seeing. I um, I was so impressed by it Like the reason it's got the there's the meme around it. It's the citizen kind of axe And just so someone in chat talking about 12 angry man I'm glad you brought up because I've been rewatching parts of that movie over the last couple of days I fucking adore that movie That's another movie where you can talk about the performances and the and the shots and the composition and the sound design I don't think it's a little bit woke though Oh angry man, you know I'm gonna just be 12 men I find that movie so impressive in terms of like character writing Um, it's just it's they're doing so well in terms of everybody is so distinct. Everybody's motives are interesting I find that um in that movie jura 11 in particular. I uh, I really like he's the uh check Uh, I mean, I don't think in the movie they say that he's easiest in european And his whole big thing is that he just really he really finds value in the judicial system Um, specifically the sort of western judicial system and and the process Um, and he's always talking about it I think the one of the scenes in that movie that's really great is when he um He confronts the jura who just wants to go to the baseball game He switches his vote to the one that he agrees with but he still chastises him because his motives are fucked Um, it's a really great scene I mean every scene in that movie is a great scene. It's incredible It's like 10 out of 10 acting everybody's so great in that movie like there's not a weak link Jura 4 was awesome too. He was just so facts oriented, but he didn't pay attention to people Whereas uh number nine the old man, he was he was just paying attention to people He noticed things picked up on uh on the way that they behaved Which I think there's just so much you can pull from just the way that people reason and biases and stuff like that That even the facts guy, there's just stuff. He's not looking for he's not paying attention to the people. Um Whereas uh number nine is And then of course that really great scene where uh number 10 goes on a big racist rant And everybody just sort of turns their backs on him and sits there silently Yeah It's really effective. It's just like it's it's you know, it's like depriving a flame of its oxygen. It just snuffs it snuffs it out Um, no, we have to find out where they work and where they live And well, you know everything about them Well, I think the key thing is you don't know any of their names until the very end of the movie when nine and eight talk to each other It's just like, yeah, you didn't even know what their names were but you know these people you really know these people um Even though you don't have their names you just have their numbers and they call each other gentlemen. That's it Like I feel like you could just spoilers. Uh movies like this movie is like 80 years old um no 60 I guess I just liked it I just really liked that I can sit there and be like number one Who was he? It's like well, he was very much like the straight man the Straight down the middle trying his best to moderate everything And number two was he was uh Really meek and didn't really have much of a spine but as the story goes on He finds more of his voice and is willing to stand up number three is just he has a really shitty relationship with his son He's he's just biased against this kid for that reason that personal one number four clinical Unemotional for the most part just trying to figure out the facts as best he can Number five, he grew up in the slums. So he kind of empathizes with this kid um And he has all of that extra knowledge of you know what it was like living in those environments and it's just more sympathetic number six is like The probably the most normie of them all he respects old people wants them to be able to talk He just wants to figure out motive like why somebody would do this down to the assault of the earth guy Number seven just wants to go to the baseball game totally apathetic doesn't give a fuck about this case one way or another Which makes him probably the least likeable person there because at least like Because he just doesn't care about anything totally apathetic number eight cool collected inquisitive um Willings to sort of push back against the tide probably the most You know the strongest world of them all number nine the old man who just notices things paying attention To people very people are answered. He has sort of world wisdom Number 10 was a racist guy Number 11 the eastern european who just fundamentally believes in the value of the judicial system And wants to explore as best as can and number 12 is the uh the um The um the advertising guy who just isn't super strong in terms of conviction He can easily be pushed one way or another not the brightest guy in the room It's just like the fact that off the top of your head you can like list all of these people very clearly That's just good writing that's fucking good writing right there Oh, there you go Oh, you got an epic Yeah, the thing that no one ever says for you, why do you have to keep talking about all the things you liked about the film? Can I just like it? Can't yeah, no, right Has anybody ever said can't you just like it? You don't have to Bought us with how much you like it god or why? That's the thing nobody was ever passionate about things. They didn't like just the weird assumption Rags likes him bows confirmed I guess i'm gonna a guess on the spelling Just bimbos, but guys is that the idea? I guess an attractive but unintelligent man is a him No, I like uh Well, I don't mind if someone has a you know Decently smart like I don't I don't like an idiot kind of like I wouldn't want to live with an idiot, but Yeah, sure As long as it's not too stupid if they're really nice and They buy like care about stuff and You know intelligence isn't everything But I would prefer if obviously if I could prefer them be smart sure Um to go your koala bear discussion killer whales aren't whales. They're dolphins Yeah, we've rags mentioned the nurse shark as well, but they are killers Hey, let's make no mistake Yeah, they'll they'll fuck you up. They'll give you the big old slap underwater. Yeah big old flimpy slap Yeah, you know you ever hear the killer shark. That's right. That's right killer whale The killer whale killed all the killer sharks, right? That's right. That's how I got his name It was only one of them too. They just started calling them all like that because they all look identical That's now I don't know about that, but god They don't all look the same. Hi. Muller is the correct way to address you person of length I mean person of length. You can call me a longer if you want, but I'd prefer a person of length But be careful with other longer people. They might they might not like it. Yeah, that's true I don't speak for every long For every long I feel like long is if if if long man was a thing It's it's kind of like if you call someone a black if you call them along. It's just like Maybe don't do that like No, because it's too bad or anything. It's just weird, you know, I remember that was a jargon archer. I think where It's like Ron. Yeah, Ron. He was talking a lot. He's like, you know, my head mechanic. He's a black and she's like, wow I know when head mechanic Um, you're gonna see gi joe origin snake eyes. And yes, that's the actual title they chose Do you think they are big fans of x-men origins wolverine? G i joe origin snake eyes That is saying I saw the trailer. Yeah I don't know about the origins for guy Well, I'm sure some people would like that potential. I gotta know how he got his eye like that Well, I mean snake eyes is really cool, but snake guys doesn't really talk like he's just cool Um that he's got the cool factor Um, yeah, it's like oba fett. Yeah Um, yeah, but I guess it's it's it's I wonder about making a movie about snake guys because like I'm pretty sure his whole thing is he is just like a silent video game character, but um But but in you know a comic book or gi or a cartoon whatever gi joe was a cartoon first, right and then toys I believe so. Yeah I think in the uh in that the the movie that came out like 10 years ago is played by rape hark um, yes Not sure if it was even a sequel though I'm not sure was he in the sequel Is that guys? Did he breathe in that? Oh no in um, oh, uh, maybe can he breathe in it? I assume that he can Yeah, I guess he can Because you're like when I because when I see these pictures of the outfit, I'm like damn like don't you need like Do you need someone to punch holes in that for you now? I'm sure they're fine Snake-eyed stuff maybe they just haven't really that's why they have to cut constantly because he has to take off the helmet and go It's like the guy in the r2d2 costume or something. Yeah, he's just like, uh Kind of breathe I can't breathe in here. Oh my god. I'm in a fucking desert. Give me out of here It's like an oven in here. Oh My last super chat directed at rags was about the ttrpg by the dnd creators He said he didn't want to do the star wars thing My point was it's a general space opera ttrpg and could make what you suggested with the fins fanfic Sure, yeah, you do that. Yeah, I have no issues at all with the playing in the star wars universe Yeah, there's a lot of stuff you can do with it. There's a lot of rule. There's like a rule book and everything There's a big star wars, uh You know table top role playing game Set book and all that sort of thing. I think there's a bit of a cross wire in terms of um We thought that that you meant we do this specifically to enact our fix to the sequels or something Rather than just we do it because we want to do an rpg fun thing. That's not you know, we'd rather just do our own thing So, yeah, very possible. Yeah, I'd love to yeah, that'd be that would be fun to do something in the star wars University a lot of stuff you could do a lot of interesting stories to tell Little adventures you can go on space things Could be cool Wow more hashtag not all sand people but most let's be fair But most oh my god And people they just keep getting in the way of me making my mind. Hey, whoa. Whoa What is going on here? Hey, we want I just can't That's right people of sand. Well, no, I guess sand people. I feel like sand people would be okay. Again if you call them I feel like if you just call them a sand that would be like offensive again. What's that sandy? Oh Yeah, you can't say that My god, what's what's wrong with you? What's happened to this world, you know Yeah, remember how Loki wanted to genocide really done on the shitter I don't think Loki wanted to genocide. Well, actually no, he did. Yeah He wants to take over earth He wanted to take over but he also wanted to genocide like portions of earth, I guess. Yeah, at least new york city Yep, and that was before avengers one all the thanus mind control retcon No, he's uh the retcons don't please stop That's not true. It's impossible He did it himself. He wanted to take over earth Time cop testicle monsters in rick and morty are way better than loki time cops and it's a gag in a cartoon show instead of part of the uh Part of bill franchise Bill dollar franchise. Um, well, yeah the time cop episode in rick and morty was hilarious Oh, that was the um, was that the one with the wait? Sorry. I'm mixing up. That was the uh, the snake one, right? Or The one with the split the dimensions Oh, yeah that's right rick and morty Handles a lot of the stuff that loki's trying to handle In uh, in ways that are much more satisfying Which is funny again remembering that the head writer for loki wrote for rick and morty was a producer Times change mm-hmm Three thoughts on the ides of march to kill a marking bird and the original bend here Where I can what the movie um, I haven't watched ben her To kill a marking bird is just one of those classics though. Um, what was the first one again the ides of march I don't think I've seen the ides of march either I've seen the um, I don't know. I guess it might be a remake it probably well or just an adaptation with the george cluny and Ryan Gosling or am I thinking of a different movie? I think that's the ides of march Um, just good old-fashioned political thriller, I guess Mm-hmm Yeah to kill a marking bird and bend her I've not seen either of them in movie form in fucking forever But I know they remade ben her and nobody watched it. Yeah, they did remake ben her for some reason Has anyone heard of this channel called knowledge on defense attacking mohler and drinker my goodness He's gonna have to get in line Oh, is he the one that because people linked the loki one that he did What I know about that one. Yeah, he got very upset that get this ring. Okay, so He shows a clip of us discussing loki on that first stream. We did was playing hit and run Which is you know I wonder what the point is gonna be and he shows the rags pronounced Scribes the tva as the the tca Okay, and so he says That is inaccurate and if you're gonna get something as simple as three letters wrong Oh my god, what a fucking puns Wow That's really He's become like It's really lazy troll work if it is like it's not even there's nothing clever or entertaining about it. It's kind of a Kind of a shame. Well, this is the thing. I only saw this portion I was like, okay, I'm out because either it's a troll or he's mentally charged So like you move it. I thought that would be the end of it, right? But he's like in addition to proving that we shouldn't take them seriously if they can't even get the initials, right? Um What rags will do is he will criticize the writers of the mcu for getting facts about their history wrong Or getting details wrong that regard Oh, no So he is 100 a hypocrite here because he can't even get the name of the tva, right? What? Yeah Oh I mean Fair enough, you know I mean not really, but you know Well, see the thing is I've always said this we've always said this rags is the only one that ever fights back on it When we do a random stream just discussing events of a thing that should be taken exactly the same way as a 100 million dollar production with loads of proofing And thousands of people working in relation to it. I think that's fair For some reason some people have convinced themselves that streams With random chatter from people looking going for as much as 10 hours long Those shouldn't be taken in the exact same way and judge the exact same way as a fully produced story. Um Obviously you're wrong It's uh same thing I just Even though rags um in that clip Corrects himself. He's like, oh, it's the tva. Okay Ah, that's not good enough. It's not good enough. You made the fucking mistake You made the mistake there. So we are going to be introducing We're going to be introducing something called live editing on efap. I'm going to hire five people to watch Uh the streams and the stream will go down the second any three of the three of us get anything wrong reference wise Or even vaguely wrong like it could be interpreted as wrong Um, it's going to annoy people. I know but I think it's worthwhile to make sure we nail this We wouldn't want to be complete hypocrites now, would we? Yeah, I don't know. It's very hypocritical to in a life format make a mistake. That's that's not it That's very comfortable to making a mistake when you have a lot of money to work with and a lot of people working on it And complete control over the final edit I think what's hilarious to me is the complete misunderstanding of what it would mean to be a hypocrite Just because rags points out someone made a mistake. That doesn't mean he cannot make a mistake That's yeah, that's absurd if rags were to be writing a story and he released it And he didn't account for something that happened in the prior story and you go wow, you're a hypocrite You said that people shouldn't do that. You're like, yeah, that's a mistake Well, yeah, I mean that's that would be the logic that would apply. It's like, oh, I made a mistake Yeah, I did you ever assume that I thought people couldn't make mistakes. So that that was your first mistake right there All right, I was realizing that I thought that that's the right whole point that you should really exist if you're capable of making mistakes Yeah, never never talk So yeah, just game over basically Lucky, of course that uh, for me, you know, I have not made a single referential mistake in our entire lives That's I mean, it's lucky that um That's I find that amusing I I hope that whoever said that has never ever made a typo when they were writing something out ever again You know, like if they're writing out a report and they they have a spellier. It's like wow hypocrite march. Wow Yeah, wow You claim to care about writing and yet you spell something wrong You misspelled a word Off to the gulag with you if the writing gulag where you get whips with dictionaries Yeah, I I watched some of the knowledge and defense uh tlj thing. No, I just skipped around. Let's do a little here and there It really is pretty worthless. Um, it's a shame that I feel bad for him and I guess he spent the time to make a video that's that worthless and devoid of value I'm sure he liked his time we do What he wants with it Kind of a shame, but don't expect us to cover it because it really is kind of just one of those I was too embarrassed when I when I saw we spent that long on you saying tca instead of tv. I was like, all right We're we're bordering on ableist here. We can't be doing this And you say agenda Yeah, um I wouldn't worry about it. Cronk is best himbo Maybe Dude, they're gonna do a live action empress newt group one day Yep, they are they absolutely are He's up there. The real ass fucking llama But with CGI face Well, maybe they'll do the the 90s thing where it's just like the mouth and eyes Yeah, maybe Sorry, I just saw something in relation to that He also argues that time and space are the same thing that that's basic physics You guys should know about and the causality has big books written about it, but it's still not understood Yeah, like on a broad like on a on a massive, you know on a like a really high level scale I would imagine but the idea that x causes y I got it That's a lot about causality Also, the mcu separates time and space into different things. So we have to Yeah, we're working with the mcu's rules and you know what? I'm sure that um in writing endgame that all of these books were read in full And then there was consultation with people who astrophysicists, you know, I'm sure they have absolutely Yeah, I mean, I don't know Keep it up. I suppose maybe you'll make a point one day Uh, what's good? My long is the fbi killed r a pack um, we're talking about My gaffey guy who's our a pack I don't know who that is I have no idea who that is No, either do I Uh, what's a titty rpg? Also, why the fuck is that censored? But I don't know Why is that censored as well? Tabletop rpg Is tt rpg is a tabletop role-playing game like dungeons and dragons or power finder or star finder or call of cthulhu I thought it was a titty rpg Yeah, tt. Yeah, that is it. You can have those are those are uh, yeah, I say we should reclaim it Do it Titty role-playing game and the role that I'm gonna be playing is them is the Dog with a big Of course We want to take that away from you Yep Uh revealing what rosebud was to the audience contradicts the themes of citizen kane especially with the audience insert in reporter left in the dark Wait, sorry. Could you say that one again revealing what rosebud was to the audience contradicts the themes of citizen kane Especially with the audience insert a reporter left in the dark Why would you say that that contradicts the theme? Yeah, I'm curious why they'd say I don't see how it contradicts the theme at all. It's like the final icing on the cake Yeah I don't see yeah I think I have to collaborate on that one because I legit don't understand why you think that Yeah If the idea is that like we're not meant to know what what it means or like why he turned into the person that he did I would say that I don't even think it really answers that question. It just tells us like where this mind is reverting to You know the most based memories You know it was like oh my god, look at all those stormtroopers. I killed all of them green. I'll do it again I Won't fumble around in this level this time Um, but yeah, I would have to hear the argument because I'm not quite is the idea that um because The world itself never really got the truth on what that word meant and it turns out the word was a lot less Significant to what they thought it might have meant them in reality And thus we should have as the viewers been given that same treatment. I just don't know the That benefits that violates the theme. Yeah. Yeah, and I would I would get helped a lot because then you're like, oh That's what rose but oh so that okay. All right. Yeah. I know it just brings you to that point where you're like, man Like I think that was the thing that really sealed up for me. I was like, yeah, this movie's like Pretty fantastic. I was quite happy with that applicable message and theme a lot of warnings in there Yeah, it's pretty prophetic in a lot of ways That line people would think what I'd tell them to think it's neat The difference between a fan and a consumer consumer eats up everything hence the name but a fanboy refuses to see the floor I don't say I'm a fan of predator But I also say that I like the predator because okay, let me read that again Can't say I'm a fan of predator and also say I like the predator because how Um, I don't know that we I would want to be definitive on that It's kind of tough because Someone might make that claim for something like batman and robin. So how the fuck would you like that? I'm like batman Or something I should be like all right And I feel like there's lots of ways to rationalize it even though I think the predator I'm a man of culture Um, you're gonna like things for all kinds of different reasons. I guess, um, but I understand right if someone's like I'm a fan of tlj and the ot and you're like how How yeah But I mean they're out there, you know They're out there Rosebud was a sims cheat code for a while. You know what I remember that. Yeah, I do I remember that rosebud being a cheat code on the sims And sims memories Good times The soundtrack in the sims is incredible Like, um, it's it's really good The music for like build mode and and uh buy mode And like how they they've both achieved sort of different feels like the the buy mode music had that very america kind of like 1950s sort of thing going for it It reminds me of uh, what's another song? You know, it's the one where i'm home a ghost of flushing meadows Or he thinks he's in flushing meadows and it's just full of toilets Oh, wait. No, it was when he went to candyland. That's right. The world where everything was made out of chocolate uh That's not the sims games game began Was it? Yeah, the first lot was running through chocolate land God, I see sims game. I only ever played that once compared to like hit and run Which I played like 50 times. Yeah, um, and I yeah, I don't remember much about a sims game Yeah, the land of chocolate. That's right If jay didn't advocate for rhino milk and get more his name wrong he would have been melted What did he call your name? Maula, I think Maula God, that's some ancient memeage right there, you know, yeah Who feel weird to go and watch efap five? It's like this is before freaky rags and more and both have even met jay That was my first efap episode ancient times. Yeah, good old black panther Yep, this is one of the ones that were from uh the last stream rags. Have you heard of what happened to kanducky ballistics a while back? Yes Yeah, they um rifle blow up in the space. Oh, is he okay? Yeah, he uh, he was injured, but he uh is okay He had a 50 caliber rifle Uh freak accident just kind of blew up Uh, I'm guessing that that's quite uncommon that something like that happens very odd that a gun blows up in your face Yes, they are designed to uh, not do not do that. Yeah Well, I guess it's how how often the guns, uh, just malfunction like how often does that happen? That's the gun's fault. Oh pride. I mean in a way that's meaningful. Uh, Yeah, uh I can't imagine it's very often really I would imagine it would be incredibly rare. Yeah Yeah, it's uh Most errors are probably just from like just not a magazine a magazine not working well or Failure to feed leave all little things like that that are more annoyances than anything else or they're because it's not clean user error negligent discharges I remember I uh, I saw a video that was about negligent just discharged. I think I told you about this. There was one where a guy uh His girlfriend had a um, she was firing an ak and he was filming it And then she and then she turned around he's like, all right now turn and then she just points it directly out of He's like starts yelling at her as he jumps out of the way But she gets mad at him. It's like you pointed a gun at him like Yeah, don't point loaded fucking guns at people Well, the gun probably wasn't because it was probably fully empty, but again, it's still just gun safety, right? It's yeah, it's just gun safety. Um I remember I went down a rabbit hole on on like videos that we just talked about gun safety the four rules always assume the gun is loaded Never pointed at something. You're not willing to destroy Um, I think there were two more. Well, there are two more. They're four, but I finally remember those two Hi rags Hi, would you rather You know, I just gotta read these out. Okay. That's just how I love would you rather's more would you rather's please Would you rather let biden feed you his jolly rancher or drink harris's grandma's peach tea, which may or may not be her urine Oh, I'd rather be fed a jolly rancher. I feel like that's someone's fucking. Yeah, that's an easy one. That's easy And I was just thinking it could have been difficult Uh Happy new year boys. Here's the ddlc in 2021 so We are catching up here with 117 EFAP super chats, which was the happy new year's dream. Oh my god. Oh my god. Really? Are you fucking shitting me? So that obviously Was what you could call a little while ago like, you know, six months. Oh, we read it Well, yeah, the year is half over already. So it's literally been half a year But uh, as we've said on EFAP, I'll always get to it Here we are Yeah, I guess Yeah So I think I have six minutes to complete this mission. I don't think I'm gonna do it It's actually five and a half so yeah, but oh boy, I don't think I'm gonna do it um So, yeah, we're gonna have to do a lot of context gassing on these ones. It's gonna be tough Um, for example, you're watching gals acting wrong. I think that regards how shitty you're watching gals acting wrong Watching it. We're watching it at all is watching it wrong. Yeah, that's probably the one woman EFAP then Was that what we did on new years? I can't remember now. I think it was actually it makes sense one woman came out Christmas Oh Arnie at least is aware and acts hysterical on purpose because the director's also But also there are good moments with arnie like in the end of t2 Yes, sir. What makes it interesting to talk about? He's Capable of doing some stuff when he's got the right person pushing him to do it, I guess Ernie is strange in that he's acting his best when he's acting is really robotic Yeah, um, well then again, it is fun to see him animated as hell and done doing all kinds of Oh, yeah, it's very fun. Who killed the dinosaurs? The ice age. Yep, there it is. Stay cool bird boy Alrighty, I'm going to find time here video game Howdy legends had a crap year in isolation till I stumbled on you guys and gals Uh, he made it survivable. Here's to many more EFAPs of years of EFAP goodness. Scritches for the rags Oh, thank you very much, and I'm glad that you are enjoying the podcast and it's helping you Um, you know enjoy things. I hope you enjoyed the six months between you sending that And the answering it while us answering it in terms of yeah, I hope you're okay the content that came out between those times We've been through a lot in the past six months in terms of arcs and media and stuff Um I save you steve. That's how we're gonna win not fighting what we hate saving what we love Well, she doesn't save him, but I mean saving him wouldn't have been a good idea Anyway, that's gonna complicate if you have to rose tico what the correct thing to do in that situation was You know save what you love is like, I don't think so, right? No Yeah To let it go See, I want I want more rose tico philosophy. You know, I wanted to talk Yeah Difficult issues. See what you think EFAP movies dragon heart ari's actor isn't it ari's actor is david fuelis. All right Even you did a lot more than just aries Yeah, he did a lot more than just I will destroy you But you're right. Yeah, and we uh, I think we do plan to check out dragon heart on That movie so give it time. Yeah, there's like four You'll there's like four dragon hearts. There's like five Uh scorpion king movies like here's a bunch. Well, I hear patrick stewart is in one of the dragon heart movies So Yeah, we'll get some patrick stewart action. No, why not? music again There is a french jonathan mackintosh the channel michael j Firmers la he looks like java with a pitchy voice his favorite character of the new star was his rose. Yeah, it's a super mackintosh Oh Well, you know, I heard sometimes we got jonathan mackintosh exists I remember the song Yeah Well, it's funny. He's kind of by he's kind of in to destroy it after he left No, I'm this frequency. I'm pretty sure he's more popular now. He's way more popular than she is for sure. Yeah Yeah, well, you know Yeah, I find it like how does because nobody cares about her anymore Like there was a time when it was just She was like the grift ran out. She gets like speaking arrangement Yeah, they just pay thousands and thousands of dollars like they pay so much money for these speaking engagements It's the only way she can get money these days because people don't support winner I don't think dude. That's so much money though. That's just like thousands of dollars to get told bullshit You should be paying thousands of dollars for han solo to come in and save the day for luke just Didn't she recently like she charged everyone like she fundraised for a discord like that that was $10,000 Come on Jesus christ, this is amazing. You can't just make those for free. Not everyone can get out of it You know Yeah, I said get away. I don't think she got away with it really like everyone fucking noticed but I wonder how she lives with herself To be honest though Yeah, this is a bad person who doesn't care. Yeah, I guess that's the thing. I'm assuming I guess it's just the thing of like dude. It's what you're doing is like It's really gross But you don't care for some reason it's in service of so if you're an ideologue, it's fine Well, yeah, but the thing is I don't I don't know that I don't believe that she believes in anything Um, she's she's she's very much a super grifter type. Uh, yeah, like I don't he's a con man Absolutely, I guess that's what I'm saying is like if she was earnest that that just means a lot more to me if somebody's earnest like If somebody if I disagree with somebody but I believe they're telling me the truth Like and what they believe that's way more valuable to me than somebody who I don't believe is telling me the truth But agrees with me It's just I don't know Let me uh, let me check. Uh, what she's doing a feminist frequency Let me see that's good videos It has been three weeks since their last, um podcast Wow, um Let's see Yeah, these are not rated very well Of course they're not These get anywhere between Five thousand at the high end views and wow A thousand but between five to a one thousand views Dude, who's around at that point, you know? Yeah She has one called uh, what the falcon and the winter soldier gets wrong about america Oh What are the comments? Oh, I bet there's no comments. There are no comments probably aren't there? Yeah, yeah comments are turned off. Yeah. Yeah, nothing's changed on that front. I see Yeah, because I it would have been useful to find out what the message actually was Because I'm like I'm curious, but I'm not going to listen to an hour long podcast to find out um Anything interesting in here, um Yeah, they they haven't been very active Which is weird considering that they I I still don't understand how you get away with the non-profit thing because she's That's a non-profit company. I don't get it Oh, baby. I've unlocked times two studs Oh, Steve shives was a guest on one Yes, I do I now with extra context I find it amusing the whole conversation about angel and buffy How he preferred angel and his wife said to his face that that's probably because he's sexist And he's like yes, dear He didn't say anything about it. Yeah, which is funny because pathetic human being angel I I do prefer angel just a little bit more than buffy um But I think it's just because you're a sexist Wow Well, well, we know you are you're as as a man. You we know you are It really it goes without saying there's no point in even trying to defend myself there. Yeah All right, we're gonna do hoth battle first then I get my my double tisms. Did you beat it in time or? I did actually with two minutes to spare. A lot of chat was very proud of me Yeah, no, I'm I love this. This is subtle title Love cat love craft country and the inescapable real life horror of american anti-black racism Oh All right Rose would have had the plain gas a bunch of people Rose tico Would have had would have would have what had have had the plain gas a whole bunch of people I'm assuming he's referring to the first wonder woman. I was talking about the second one What would rose think about the steve travel situation in terms of saving what you love, you know because saving him would mean, you know Killing the innocent man Yeah, I'd love to have rose just slid into scenarios that Would confuse her tiny mind And leave her just like shocked as to what she could do or what not do, you know Well, I guess that's the the it's just it's complicated real life is really complicated It is I've watched batwoman fringy real life is simple. It's really easy I guess the problem with the you know by by saving what we love. It's like in world war two Or just any war in order to advance a cause that we believe to be just Like we we have to be willing to you know Sometimes you have to spill blood and that's just the way the whole thing If I if you can't be convinced to stop doing an evil thing through diplomacy what other choice is there? Yeah, how you have to be what things do you have to do to where we have to destroy you Because the thing is do we abide evil or do we combat evil? We you know, there's certainly evils that just can't be abided And then you've got to you know, gotta gotta be willing to fight to to put a stop to it It's all gonna like the disney sequels sort of thing We have what where we talk about abiding evil Well They cross the line rags, okay If there was a line, they fucking crossed it Must destroy them You must destroy everything related to them Every person that ever worked out. No, it's fine. We'll just make some critique videos. We need to Uh Well, if she saved uh him in world war one, Steve wouldn't stop the plane and then a bunch of people would have died from gas Yeah, again, I was mostly talking about the second movie. I think at that point in the timeline. He's already done all that Yeah, it's all good. But if in the first one. Yeah, maybe she stopped Stephen doing that. She's like, no We gotta we can't be we gotta we gotta hug them. We gotta hug the germans until they stop That's what You almost want to force her into that scenario where she says the only only protect people Only save who you want to love blah blah blah And you're just like, all right, let me make this simple. You put her on a chair give her a head good You put a head good to uh fidd's head You're like, I'm gonna shoot him in 10 seconds and I will count down. You have to shoot me to stop me. Okay She's like no He's like 10 Oh, this could be good. If someone just linked this in the discord to me That could be interesting Steve shives how to be a successful critic oscar professional youtuber. Oh boy Yeah, do I want a face to use? Why would you use that face in your fucking? I mean granted all of your faces will be terrible, but like if that's one frame. Yeah, that's a really bad one Don't drop the video link in there. I'll try and uh Is it something that might Let me get on my still back on the imagery of soldiers running at the enemy line with their arms out with big goofy smiles trying to hug him Like you're charging the enemy line with a hug He was made This is 2000 views And this one was made 14 dude Dude like no way is this channel fucking dead? didn't his channel die um a while ago For my it's been on life support for a while, but if he says he's professional He's still making enough money. I guess to do it the full time. What was does he have like a big patreon or something? Let me let's say That uh, yeah, he gets 3200 australian dollars a month, which is a video about his vasectomy What I mean that is I'm mad Like Maybe maybe I'm judging a book by its cover, which I know you shouldn't do but it's the fucking cover and it's there to be judged But like I I don't quite like Also him without his hat to take a picture, but uh Uh, imagine you photoshop the hat onto the hospital like situation Just want to be seen without It can't control the video on the video So it seems like he makes videos on star trek and those are the things that get the most views that he does Like they actually get a lot more viewers than anything else So maybe that's what it's mainly the things star trek would use But more that's definitely that clearly seems to be his thing um Oh, and he's done the thing with his patreon where the minimum is five dollars, right? So that Uh Um, so yeah, I So what I don't understand is how can you be a professional youtuber with that? You know view count well, it doesn't they mean professional I guess we just mean that you're doing it and you make a living and he seems to be with that patreon That's a healthy patreon for a for a for a channel that small that's pretty much is it Uh, what was three? I got it in australian dollars about three thousand two hundred, which is I guess it's over two thousand us That's way more than you would expect for a channel outside I guess of the four people who watch him and there's some dedicated people in there But even then like two thousand like depending on where you live if you're making two thousand a month I think that's enough. Um Yeah, it depends. Uh, it's all on where you live It's on what way you're living if you have a family if you're on your own and like two thousand dollars a month That's enough to it's not great, but it's it's it's enough But if you live in california, then that's Fuck That's looking off to pay for your rent and even then maybe And that's that's before taxes as well. So much better than it Oh He has a video that the snider cut is worse. Oh, wow. Good job. But the reasoning though the reasoning likes and dislikes are hidden Yeah Yeah, oh, okay Dude, that's sad. Like I want it. You know what I mean, like I want to see what people think about anything that I make Well, you know, there's a lot of trolls out there for me Well, I guess it's just weird like it's it's it's not common that somebody who has a really good like to dislike metrics will turn off They're they're there. Yeah, that's something that people who get dunked on all the time. That's something they do Yeah, because I mean, you know That's a brag Lots of brag, but my metrics is usually like 99% Why would I want to hide that? Why would I want to hide something that good? This is six and a half minutes. Um, how to be a successful critic in six and a half man six and a half minutes Just write a book on it like oh wait, you don't need to it's not easy Yeah, and it's probably actually six minutes because there's probably gonna be cause they'll be out for a year Yeah, I am Yeah, I'm I'm down for maybe this could be potentially e-fappable. So we might have a stew shives for uh, yeah Exciting, yeah How to make a video on how to be a successful critic Like every every still Of him is just he just put to a random point and it's beautiful um So there isn't even a brick down here. I've been cheated Kind of just hoping I didn't ask because it looked all secrety um Keep bringing back john the arian man graham the arian man I'm happy for him. So he's he's a good guy. Yeah, definitely. He's popped up on a bit He's gonna be on them down. Do you see the arian man? Yeah, that's what they said Oh I don't know if that's how he labels himself, but yeah, that's fine I mean, I don't care if you're arian or not. I I have a lot of friends who aren't arian You can't help if you are if you're that right like I was gonna say as much as you feel that it has any mean, you know, you know people might Hold that against you, but I don't know All right, we're only after power brick. Okay, everyone. I'm not looking for the true Jedi that we might just accidentally get it In fact, anyone know where the power brick in this level is so that I don't end up spending ages and then not getting it That would be embarrassing Mala, they're the infinity bricks. You know the non idiot power and infinity are two different things No Hello massive. Hello. Hi At least those three dudes got a nice upskirt shot before they died island of misfit Where's You know, I don't know Is that from today or was that from? No, that was from years ago Ah, yeah island of misfit words. So w h dash r. Yes. I don't know if they're saying horse and they couldn't put it in Me or if it's saying something else We certainly don't know Island of misfit horse Maybe I don't know what that is either I've never heard of this island, but I'm curious to know where it is Yeah, how one gets so that you can avoid it Yeah, well, I don't mind if anyone I want to know Yeah, I I want to know where it is so I could buy a whore there All right, I guess it's in relation to them a skewer, right? Oh Not whore No, I know that's I yeah, that's right They will ride on a horse Yeah, the island of misfit horses now. That's the place I want to see Couldn't quite make it in normal society. They have to go to the island of misfit horses. Yeah That's right It's there right, okay Please give power break I saw the mini-care at least Oh, he killed me Um Aries has a lightning reflected back into him. Seriously. What is with evil people and lightning shooting back at them? I don't know It's a really good way to get a weakness Um Taking out aries would make a wonder woman a much better movie Um, it would definitely help but wouldn't you rather just fix him I guess Because he's he's kind of a fucking weirdo in that movie Not a lot of it makes any sense It was a figuring out what he's what he's after where he's going Wow, they just shot it straight away. Where the fuck was I even supposed to be taken? It is the power break Well, that's that's good. I guess Wonder Woman's weakness is 70 years of celibacy She's pretty strong Right Took me a while to get that one The amount of hate rebels gets it's All right. Well I guess I'll read this out The amount of hate rebels gets it's shockingly well written I'm sitting the most of the hate it gets because of the odd style at age rating. I don't know what I don't play that Yeah I don't believe you Play that Everybody says this all the time about people love so more say rebels as shit But I was just hearing about so many, you know things like oh, you know, this stuff sucks, but this one Do you see her constantly? It always gets you wondering. Yeah, people say there's you know, incredible shows out there all the time and they just You know when you watch them, they just don't quite old. This is fucking crap. Yeah, insanely disappointing. Yeah Yeah, and especially in the context of you know, you guys you all hate these things, but my thing that's the one that's good That's really good. Yeah It's like man kind of interesting Really, yeah, this one's different guys. This one's really good. I swear to god this one. Yeah Smash X to doubt Smash X to doubt. I'm fucking nuking X to doubt. Yeah That place that I'm putting that controller out in the middle of the desert and dropping bomb on it To test it The X button will still be there The power brick it's right there. Yay times two. Hopefully we'll be unlocked now I have the power brick Yeah Hey, man I think Athena alone could easily be Ares though thoughts Athena um Are we going by what metric here like the mythology or Um Pretty sure like Ares would still just kick the shit out of most people except for maybe Zeus Seems pretty aggressive. You know with the whole war thing Yeah, it's kind of his kind of his deal, you know, probably fucks people up. I reckon As we saw it took Kratos Grabbing his old big old sword and sticking it in uh In dude's face to stop Mm-hmm You don't do that to just anyone I mean Kratos does it's just anyone, but you don't you know typical Well, he's an angry man. Okay Toxic male So he's even 12 angry man or no Kratos that would have been amusing I think he's innocent And then Kratos with sad is Blades of chaos or whatever that they're called the blades of chaos, right? I think the well it depends on which here are the chains of chaos No, they're not because the chains aren't the thing that you should be scared of it's the blades. So Blades of chains Depends on which game we're talking about. Ah, I see Upgrades different. Yeah Fuck you AT-AT Wow points, um blood of Zeus on netflix did it better go see That's an animated thing, right? I think uh, it's got the guy who plays adam jensen. I think he's in it to some degree Polygon wonder woman has the power of forgiveness I don't keep up with polygon. What's the what what are they again? They're crazy, right? There are they're like uh, they're one of the game journal websites They gave bayonetta a lower score because bayonetta was attractive That's a good good shout Like they're like, oh, you know the game sounds like something an ugly person would do It's just funny because like the game is the game is really phenomenal, but like bayonetta, you know herself Because bayonetta's power is derived from like she uses her hair to attack people And so the more attacks you do the less hair there is Covering her up. Well, that's what yeah, that's samson did he like sort of used his hair to attack people I guess you could interpret it that way. Uh, bayonetta and samson related Wow Didn't samson get his eyes? Probably not because neither of them are real, but Do you really need your eyes? Well, he didn't need his eyes because he was strong enough to uh to tear down the pillars, right? Yeah, and he only didn't have his eyes at the very end or the vast majority of his life He could see just fine. I remember samson was one of the the less offensive ones I remember it was joe that really was uh, I really found that one distressing any particular reason The fact that joe was punished for being a good person just because god wanted to make a point No, he wanted to make a point to satan Yeah, that's that's what I mean. It's like even worse. He wasn't even trying to make a point It's a joke. He was making it say joe was caught in the crossfire. Yeah I just like a lot of shitty fucking stories in it I think the thing is just like you can probably pull something from joe, but like my god Generally it's like even Generally what what is what you pull from the job story Is that people say well that the story of joe is about how you need to be Super faithful and loyal to god even if things are going shitty and even if god is directly responsible For everything. Yeah Well, I think it's just the idea that again. So you listen fucker The job story is a is a fucking catastrophe Like what what a horrific story if you are able to pull something good from that like Good for you. I guess You you could probably you're the kind of person who could pull the good stuff out of anything And i'm glad that you're a glass half full silver linings kind of guy But fuck me that story is awful I would never teach my kids the job story to teach them good lessons about life Yeah, or or at the very least of you are going to teach them a story It's like but remember god is the antagonist of this story job is the hero. Yeah, absolutely You look at even that it's a tragic hero. It's literally about the the stories are about The the character of god and the things that he does him as a real character And for the most part these stories were taken literally for the vast majority Of biblical history like the history of you know the world It's like even if it wasn't taken literally what a shit story with a horrible horrible message Well, if it were in adapted to a movie, I'd be like that's not very satisfying I don't know about this. Yeah, god guy Yeah Well, I mean it could be a really interesting story as a tragedy that despite everything that's happened job still put us back in the man who wronged them by the entity who wronged them Like if you because the story could be like a heroic story if he ultimately moves past his uh You know that relationship and decides to be good for its own sake into finance of god almost right Poor job Yeah, god has a plot device the bible is a morality tale. Oof. That doesn't hurt your point. My that doesn't help your point My dude, I don't see how that helps you right like doesn't that mean so it's all a lie like a fictional right is that Because that's the problem is like you got to pick one or the other if it's fictional and it's a morality book. That's fine But like do you believe it literally like that god actually exists. That's a good moral though from the job Well, I don't well. I I agree but yeah Even after because I've checked two different websites right now on lessons that you're supposed to take from the book of joe And they're like they're shitty It's all about Like here, let me do this top 10 here 10 lessons we learned from the book of joe bad things happen to good people That's the only one that's like applicable, but that's just an observation Bad things happen. That's not a lesson But like it's not even accurate the bad things happened because he was a good person Yeah, you have to Rip away a lot of the stuff in that story to get to that one in that one. It's not even a lesson It's just an observation and that's the only one here that seems to be even like applicable Number two in the midst of suffering We must never lose our hope in god Like oh Number three our friends may fail us in the midst of our misery, but god never does What? Yeah, god does yeah Four even in the midst of god's silence his presence is with us Yeah, he's damn looking at you say see see say see look. He's still my bro Even after I killed us all family Wisdom comes from fearing god and turning away from evil. What? Wisdom comes from fear God is with us in the midst of our storms That's the same as four and sort of the same as three as well Seven god is in control. Oof. That's uh, uh, sorry I feel compelled to address spring is not the story is the story of job not stoicism incarnate Well, so there are a few key modifiers, right? It's like it's stoicism. It's not that you're meant to be indifferent to the bad things But but fundamentally it's not it's not like god is punishing you Like that's the big element that's taken out of it that in in like stoicism It's not like well no you still got to have faith in god like it is screwing you over It's the idea of if bad things happen You just got to try your best not to let it derail you but in job It's it's oh don't let it derail you but still have faith in the person who was responsible for your suffering Like worship him not even yet worship him Yeah, and a big thing as well like oh, he's by your side like whereas in stoicism. It's like no you're on your own Um, you're on your own like it's on you. This is the kind of story you have to create to teach people stoicism You fucked up. Well, I feel like because the the big thing is that there was no attribution in like stoicism It's not like somebody did this to you. It was just something bad happened. It was just unlucky Or rather that there isn't lucky or unlucky It's just things happen and how you respond to them is the real determiner of like your character But in this story all that matters is that you're loyal to god It doesn't even really matter like if your life sucks and you're miserable It's okay if you're miserable as long as you're loyal to god the guy who did it to you That's a really walked and modified idea of responding to adversity by just maintaining your composure It's a really big difference Yeah, so you have number seven god's in control big oof Number eight sometimes in the midst of our suffering we sin All right Uh nine sometimes we sin against our friends okay 10 after repentance and forgiveness comes blessing. It's like But what does he have to repent for he did nothing wrong? He was a good person What's the whole book? Not just the job story. All right. Yeah, right because he eventually does get mad, doesn't he? Like eventually he's like dude. I know I would yeah, I'd be like you you fucked up my life my family My health you doing all this shit to me. I've only been a good person I've only been doing all this stuff and not only do you want me to be okay with it You want me to keep fucking worshiping you go suck a dick? I think um, I think a big difference between didn't do this to me. I'll say that Okay, I made the mistake of looking at chat to see uh, if anyone saw the fact that I completely got the wrong power brick And I see you complete don't understand the story god didn't do anything to job. He let satan do it All right, so it's the same thing So we're not even going to get into the fact of why did god make satan at all Why does he allow satan to operate in the world where people are legitimately and reasonably Convinced to fall prey to him and god knows it, but he allows it to happen Oh, man You see how it's really good if five seconds If you have a philosophy that doesn't ascribe that there are these characters who are fucking with your life That it's really a lot easier to find fundamental rules and principles that you can derive from these stories about adversity and apply them to your life Because that's the thing if bad things happen and you respond well to them That's a really good like way to approach life Where nothing can really push you over the edge. Nothing can truly destroy your character When you add the modifier of oh, but by the way, you need to pay penance to the guy who did this to you Um, and also everything will be okay in the end. I think that's the big delusion that everything will be okay in the end Like um, you have to work towards that. That's something like things will be okay in the end But if you work really fucking hard for it, it's not guaranteed But you want to be optimistic and tell people you gotta it ain't gonna come easy It's not just you can't just throw up your hands and say well god's in control Which is number seven you gotta do stuff. You gotta do stuff But yeah, if that's I think it's looking back on these stories and seeing how just horrendously shit they are And realizing how much I gave them How much importance and value I gave them when I was younger It kind of is like it it's kind of shocking, you know I think yeah, but you're I think that's the big element. You're a kid. So if you get exposed, yeah, man, get him young. Yeah Get him young Yeah, it's it's gonna be a lot harder to uh, I guess to accept Well, he got a little bit. Yeah, just a little bit I think it's just um, I don't know it's uh Yeah, get it when you get exposed to it early and that's sort of Hamid in and also it's like the only you know, everybody around you believes the same thing It can be really hard to like not Sort of accept it Um, let's see bible talk tv Oh, no Seven lessons from job number one god is great Okay, that's the first lesson from job that we need to learn god is great. I think me like god is great isn't Powerful than powerful. Clearly, but I agree. Yeah, he's powerful. Yeah Um To our strength is in god not self I don't like that at all. I don't like that at all message. Well, in fairness. Yeah, you don't want to devalue This thing we we think oh, yeah all the like they're gonna think they draw power from that concept Yeah, it's like the last team around the winning team. So Yeah, it's it's just like the last list where it's all You have to it's come from a place where you presuppose that all of this stuff is real And that god's just the fucking greatest because these are people talking he's preaching to the choir Is what it is if you want to actually convince me these are not built to convince someone who doesn't Like these are four people who want to see things the way that you see them Which is by the way, what an amazing handicap Uh But let's see number three your faith works only when you work your faith Okay, okay, all right uh The Like it's one of those. How do I they say like strengthen your faith and then you ask But like what is that? Like what does that mean like walking through the steps of that? It's it's because that's just a platitude strengthen your faith Because I believe even harder in things you have no evidence for I will do my best Number four is be still Which I guess is meaning That's contextual you don't want to be still when you're in the ocean maybe This says uh, be still and know that I am god. We rarely learn anything while thrashing about spiritually Know that Note that joe's wife was exasperated with him Do something she said she more or less said to him even if it meant cursing god and ending one's life Well, I mean camp if like the the creator of the universe is pitted against you like man um However the spiritual man or woman's first response to crisis is stillness not action basically It seems to be saying that um, it really shitty things are happening to you Don't lose faith in god Don't don't be Dynamic Number five realize that no one really knows how it feels Um in in relation to what It says each person suffering is unique Even if some of the details are similar to someone else's experience One of joe's Friends was that his friends assumed they knew exactly what he was going through Or why he was suffering and how to make things right um That might have just been So that as far as we know That could have just been his friends like clumsily trying to empathize or trying to help him out. So Well, remember the friends were like trying to tell him Things that that were actually like I remember vaguely that they were telling him things that were accurate like you've been screwed over here um You've been screwed over Yeah, that's an understatement I guess Yeah, and then he didn't respond to them When you are the one undergoing the trial save your energy and trying to explain how it feels or what the experience is like Since aside from the comfort of venting Someone else understanding doesn't usually solve the problem It can help. What a bizarre What is a bizarre thing to tell people talking to people about your problems can actually be really helpful Yeah Especially if they really care about you and they legit want to know how you're feeling And an outside perspective can be valuable Um, like it can help if you feel like you're going insane to have somebody just relate to that I'm talking it out. It'll help you understand what you think about it as well exactly Lots of benefits. It says Like job, we should pour out our hearts to god who does know and who can help relieve our suffering But how if god knows the source of it? Yeah, he he's the source of it And he already knows so like what's the point? Like if I vent my frustrations to someone else It's either because I'm trying to Get some comfort from venting like it's good to get it out It's good to know that someone is able to listen It's good to help them empathize with me and it connects us personally because I'm the I see them as a person who Like I wouldn't go to a stranger and say some of this stuff potentially But someone I might care about I'll go to them and if they listen and seeing how they react to it might, you know, strengthen our relationship, but They're just like nah to save your energy. Don't you just don't try to explain Um some number six sometimes you don't know and you will never know why Which there's um, there might be something here That yeah, but not in the world where god exists not really because there is a reason It's all god. Yeah. Um, yeah as opposed to in reality where it's life is chaotic and unpredictable Even though in the end god faced and spoke to joe corrected him For gave and restored him because joe really needed that forgiveness It didn't didn't god like kill joe's family and shit like that So I remember the first thing was he'd like killed all of his livestock And then I think he destroyed his house while his family was in it and killed all of them Um, so how do you restore did he bring them back to I think he just got to give him a new family, right? He didn't actually he got really crappy health too. That was like the last thing. He was incredibly ill Um, yeah, he made him very sick. Yeah So Yeah, I don't know how you Just I don't think he brought him back to life because god generally doesn't do that It's a he saves that for special occasions I guess what I find weird is that You've just read these two lists that have quite varying interpretations And I feel like if we're trying to communicate lessons clearly we can do a better job than this Yeah, you would just speak to me personally like if we're able to edit the bible I'd be like, let's lose this one the job story. It's a bit, you know I guess you just So Like I just looked up. Um, this is called the tale of two wolves. It's a native american folklore This is the story an old Cherokee told the other one is also gay. So you are gay The story is an old Cherokee told his grandson My son there is a battle between two wolves inside us all One is evil. It is anger jealousy greed resentment inferiority lies in ego. The other is good It is joy peace love hope humility kindness empathy and truth The boy thought about it and asked grandfather, which wolf wins the old man quietly required the one you feed It's like, all right, nice simple story And you can and it's like a really clear message immediately learning that in high school. Yeah, yeah, it's like I've never heard of that one. I like it Yeah, I like it a lot the um Brother His name I remember everything about him except his goddamn name, but yeah, he he was uh in the High school. I went to Catholic high school. Uh, he's the one who told us that story It's very nice. Yeah, it's it's nice and simple Typical new age that was native american Cherokee. That's okay. Okay on a galactic scale that's On the cosmic timeline that was basically yesterday Like what did they put a capper on that you guys got to use capper and text again You need to use a cap a smug roster, right? Yeah Like a new age native American folklore you one of them progressive tribes, aren't you? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah With your fucking spirit animal I like spirit animals. I like that stuff. I think it's really cool rocks just like my grandfather had Spirit animals Well, you just want to throw a story on that already. It's like my spirit animal is a walrus. You're like, oh Well, I guess it's interesting to think about because a lot of it is us ascribing I mean it's anthropomorphism ascribing human traits to animals, but it's kind of almost irresistible to not do that like, um to ascribe Stuff like nobility to the lion or cheekiness to the coyote, you know um Solitude no the wolf is not solitude at all. It's the opposite of that well, um The pack with a lone wolf is like a whole thing in there Yeah, lone wolf is a that's Like like that even though apparently in nature Wolves don't stay lone wolves for long Usually my spirit animal a spiral of the dragon if you took crack That's why that's it's weird. I catch the dragon You know, but we have our We have we have our last uh lesson about the job story But we'll number six was sometimes you don't know and you'll never know why Fair enough and If I was gonna say that was my lesson that I had to give I'd say Look, it's good to know You know the hows and whys of the world a lot of the times, but some you just you gotta be Willing to understand in life. You're not always gonna have all the answers Sometimes bad shit just happens and you're gonna have to deal with it. We all do it happens to all of us Sometimes you will just never know why it happens and you can't kill yourself looking for the reason or trying to Find some explanation that you're just never gonna get sometimes you gotta move on I like what they say. Oh no Even though in the end god faced and spoke to joe but corrected him For gave him and restored him Okay Yeah, let's get that out of the way guys. God made it all okay. So what did job do did job like cares god by the end of the story I think you got mad at one point. Yeah, you probably got he might have gotten upset. Yeah, I think I swear When his whole family Not liking you right now. I'm gonna put you in my thumbs down book So the actual moral of job life's rough get a helmet. No, that's All of this is couched within god is in control of everything worship him Even if your life is fucking horrible and shitty You gotta you have faith in god It's not actually like anything applicable or real You know how we judge, uh, we judge inconsistent themes this way Like if the story kind of negates the lessons or the ideas and when you said Like oh, there are just some things you won't know the answers to it's like the fucking creator of the universe controls Everything's talking to you you can actually get these answers. You can be like, hey, what do you ask him? You ask him anything and he'd be like, yeah, I actually know the answer this time Because I know everything and I did it I did it to you boy ask away peasant It's like why did you do this? It's like well satan. He was just talking mad. Shit. All right He was saying that I couldn't do this and that and I was that that got me bad. I'm not gonna lie I got me really bad But I proved him wrong and it's like oh, thanks Really glad I guess you did. Can I have my family back? It's like no, that's only reserved for like special people. All right. You're not that special Uh, but number seven Well, we never got to number six. I guess what their thing is He never revealed the job the reason for his suffering. That's kind of exclamation point He never revealed to job the reason for his suffering Are they saying that like it's a plus it's like that's important to remember because that means that I think the logic was even though even though god totally made it okay in the end He never revealed the job the reason for his suffering which is if I was job I'd be like god. What the fuck? Well, I think I think what they're trying to say is the moral is it doesn't matter why the bad things happen to you You regardless of why they happen even if it was just or unjust You should just accept that and move on And it's never I'm doing a lot of work for them though. Yeah, that's thing It's never just the actual lesson that is super applicable and helpful It's always in this big shell of god. Jesus. God. Jesus. God. God faith I just saw a question in chat that I feel is worth addressing. Oh, no, it's scroll away. Uh Where do morals and morality come from not being confrontational? I'm genuinely asking your position I believe they come from just like evolution Yeah, that's uh, they're evolution and culture Yeah, when you say where do they come from it's like we as a co-op It's like we try and generate a set of principles and then we branch them out Into actions and try and act consistently and thus How we've set out what is right? Well, if we're talking about like the origin I imagine that it was people realized really early on that killing each other was incredibly Disadvantages in terms of evolution That like the pack Basic morality has a lot of If everyone did what everyone wanted to do it's just chaos. It's it's all over. Yeah And so yeah, and then as Sides and brains got more and more and more complex and as we invented philosophy and all these kinds of things it got more and more deep and Complicated and you know that sort of thing and it evolves like a lot of other things. Um, well, I think I think it's pretty culture and our biology and How we evolved over a cajillion years You know it has taken the shape that it has taken. I mean a lot of it doesn't take its value away You know, it's it's no less important and incredible and wonderful and important because it didn't come from some You know supernatural deity And I guess the big thing is that you can see other elements of similar things in other animals like a Like a desire to protect each other and not to hurt each other And of course, there are some animals that do fight each other, but we fight each other so I don't know what to say that and um And it's and it's you know, it's it's the idea of empathy It's like I can see that being an evolutionary advantage that the animals that don't fucking kill it all of each other to death Are the animals that end up doing pretty well Dolphins don't tend to fight other dolphins or maybe they do but they don't like hunt each other It's an extinction or anything And and then from that base you can derive a lot of things like I don't know Monkey picks up a rock and starts playing with a rock and then other monkey takes the rock Monkey one is like oh, that's my rock give it back I had it. I found it first You can have that rock and then monkey two is like, ah, I see and that way we can both have rocks and we're both happy And when we're happy we're more productive. Now, of course, they're not thinking about it like that It's But it's the fun. It's the general principle respect rock rights You guys are so close to addressing the real point of contention because your points were nonsensical. They're not but I don't know how I'm meant to respond to this like the problem is that whatever argument to present are gonna Probably not going to be all that compelling. Well, I always feel like the people who say stuff like that Don't know that everything is based on axioms. Oh, where where? Right, so the follow-up for that chatter was where do where do our christians derive their morals? Well, from what I understand the idea is that they are imprinted on you by god But like god created the world And of course the problem is that we recognize that that's kind of not universally true for all human beings There are some people who don't have empathy just categorically their brain just makes it hard for them or impossible for them If you're a psychopath or a sociopath because unfortunately the human mind is kind of complicated and a bit fickle We still don't really fully understand how it works. I mean, we may never Well, it's complicated like consciousness is uh is one of them crazy challenging sort of issues Where's my power brick? And uh number seven god often uses crisis to bless this spiritually Thanks god for like allowing the crisis The thing is is that there is value in the idea of like, you know, this is actually a misnomer But that crisis an opportunity of the same word in mandarin. It's not true. They're not the same word But I like the idea that in a crisis there's like an opportunity to to grow to learn something um To find like new strength. It's a challenge to overcome I guess the problem is that there is no real overcoming in joe's story. It's Outlast like don't die or something. You know, yeah Like joe was victimized by someone who wanted to have a petty argument with the Supposedly evil creature that he created and allows to run around a mug And joe got was the he was victimized by someone who was who were told is morally Incredible and righteous and perfect and that you should worship that entity when he does all these things to you Which is a fucking horrifically bad story Yeah, it's happy. I got my power brick just saying Did you just get your power brick? It was hidden behind a wall like and I didn't know it was there. I was just looking around Oh good times school times too Um, the real question becomes how do you justify certain morals in the world driven by facts and morality If morality is just uh something we have made with no real basis, how do we justify punishing and moral actions? Um, well morality is subjective We we need to like we have to it's gotta be wait wait wait. No. No. I don't I don't agree with a premise All right morality is just something we have made with no real basis. No, there is a basis from it Like society doesn't work in real kill each other Yeah, like there's absolutely a basis for morality. We've we've built up the system And it works pretty fucking well um I mean, let's let's take this let's think of this as a like we're this is a podcast for three people on Just basically the the the corners of the earth. Yeah from all over From this vast distance three very different people can come together and have these discussions And people can listen to them and we can talk about it and You know civilization that does all of these things like there's absolutely a basis for it I I don't agree with the premise that there is no basis for it. That's that's kind of ridiculous And it yields broader. I think that's a big thing is that like moral systems that we've crafted can build Bigger things that we weren't capable of if we didn't have those systems because we wouldn't have been able to get to that point Like we wouldn't be able to get to the point of society if we didn't have things like let's not kill each other Let's not steal from each other As like fundamental rules that we that most people try to adhere to Because we don't have that we don't have an economy Um, and we don't have like any degree of order or cohesion It's what is that philosophy from bed with no god Oh I got some bad news about some of the greeks that you know, okay here am I dude? I don't even know You need to like that that is the kind of thing that somebody says who hasn't engaged with philosophy at all Yeah, you're gonna have to read a book that isn't the bible my dude. I'm sorry. That's dude. That's something real I can't believe someone would have said that It does really sorry about the surprise me sometimes. I'm just like I guess people still don't know where sometimes we just like Yeah, yeah, these people. Yes It is valuable to get that every once in a while to remind you that these people do really exist There are people who think that it's just I wonder if anybody like it's incoherent that if you don't believe in a god You have no place discussing philosophy. I wonder if anyone has trouble with that in our audience where they're like I agree with them on like so much stuff, but they don't believe in god You know no because we this is efap. We have a we have a standard and well, I just I wonder if that helps Helps move them toward a place of like maybe it is possible to like believe in all of this stuff while also not having the book You're lack of faith has turned you into twisted shells I thought it was Disney Star Wars that did that That's a good meme That's a good meme the real rod at your soul Bro, I got times two studs now. We're really ramping up this gameplay When I enter double double stud rooms. Oh, the quad studs Quad studs you need eight octa studs. Yeah We were walking really high potential then Think it back when I was young Um, the job story was very it was very uncommon that that was ever one of the things that was talked about Um, and there's a part of me that wonders is it just because they wanted to focus on other stuff? Is it or is it because tactically? That's just like a hard one like you know the story of the she bears and stuff That one didn't get a lot of screen time at mass just saying that one We did that one didn't yeah I guess I wonder who bolded earlier. It was just like find some camaraderie in that story It's like yeah, you shouldn't make fun of someone for that. Fuck you fair time I guess I'm just wondering in terms of because usually you hear the Moses and Ozark and all that stuff Um, but then they figure out what was the one where the woman turned into salt because she turned around That was so was it Sodom and Gomorrah? I think yeah Yeah, that's Sodom and Gomorrah where the the two towns were evil and um instead of trying to reform those towns they got destroyed And whatever Sodom. Yeah if she turned around to look at it. She turned it to salt which she did I remember there was a cartoon where that happened And the agent was laughing and he's just like okay, uh my wife's a pile of salt It's like well, we didn't tell her not to turn around. It's like yeah, but you didn't really emphasize it It's like but we didn't tell her it's like well had you said don't turn around or else it turned into a pillar of salt I think she would have listened Well, here's the thing Yeah, you gotta I mean you gotta Yeah, and by learning the hard way means dead Let me let me find because I can't remember if it was through if god said it himself Or if it was someone Claiming that that's what god said um Let me see uh Let's see man of Sodom. That's uh Lot offer up his oh, yeah Lot was the guy who offered up his two daughters daughters to the to be raped by the crowd Yeah, it's a great story guys that was there's a reason why some of these don't get the same screen time as other stories Well, yeah, because Noah's Ark was the one that you always hear which is interesting because Noah's Ark is pretty messed up as well Like I always wondered why the animals deserve to die um, so Fringy, here's the here's the command right from the bible Um, so it's the it's lots visiting angels Uh, they're the one who gave this command which was right leave for your life Do not look behind you nor stop anywhere in the plane fleet of the heels less fleet of the hills Lest you be swept away So I think a reasonable person Would take the do not look behind you part And that's just supposed to emphasize go Fuck and go don't look back just fucking go not literally do not look behind you or else you turn into a pile of salt So but this do not look behind you nor stop anywhere in the plane So like if you literally stop walking for a moment Do you would you have become a pillar of salt if she um like took a breather like she took a break? It's like no that's not allowed man. I am tired and lot turned back to see your stoppings like no He runs towards her We're not because if he turns around he turns into a pile of salt Oh, yeah, that's right He had to turn around but he closed his eyes So he didn't look behind him and then he tried to reach in the dark to get her hand to keep pulling her away And it was too late when he found it. It was all salt He opened his hand and it was just salt. Do you think he like You know used it for his food Well, it's like better not put it away, you know, you know, you always be You'll always be positive. You'll always be there with you. Yeah In the cute story really it's kind of romantic I remember uh Jonah in the whale that was always a that was a that was a weird one I can't remember exactly what the point of that one was. Um I guess david and goliath isn't okay one like it's it's not about how big you are It's about you know, that's smart you are It basically it's like the moral of Jonah and the big fish was like if god's got plans for you It'll it's gonna happen. You can't get away. You can't run away from faith Yeah, if god if god's got a plan for you, it's gonna happen. Don't dude, that's terrifying He's coming. There's other stuff you could pull from it. Obviously Well, you mentioned the fear god earlier and you're like the surprise him is like god fearing is considered a good trait Right, like I don't know why hearing isn't it was it's like it's it's respecting. Yeah, like you understand What you're dealing with you don't like terrified of god. You showed your place. Yeah He's a big boy that god. He'll he'll throw a lightning bolt probably Be careful. Yeah, um because when it refers to god in the archaic It's like you have you you're a veer him and you're in awe of him. You're gone Um, though, you should be terrified of this creature. The god respecting doesn't sound as good as it I guess I think it sounds okay, you know, no the messages don't avoid your responsibilities motherfucker I literally went to this christian website to double check that and that's what they say So what you can do is you can take it up with the person and all all of these fucking christians who say that that's the story And we can act as if god is an essential fucking point to all of these goddamn stories And all this stuff and you could you could argue with all the fucking priests and the clergy About how they're given the wrong message of a big youtube debate I guess this is why I I like that wolf story because like I don't see how you could possibly misinterpret that one It's so straightforward. Whereas these ones and discussing it would probably be pretty fun Like you'd be like, yeah, I think it means to feed each side and and how much in regulation should you probably and stuff but You know some other stuff I guess discussed might not go that way Talk about a tangent. What's the uh, what's the next Well, the funny thing is the top that I can see right now says the bible is very mixed in terms of writing The mixed very nick You can you can drag some good stuff from the bible kicking screaming. Absolutely There's some good stuff in there. Um, I imagine that there is just some Even not debatably just unironic good stuff completely. Sure. Yeah, there's some stuff in there yet There's just some weird stuff It's just that you have to get through the fucking lot and do job stories too And the fucking Alicia and the she bears they're like fucking hell. How do these get past the first draft? They had like a publisher. It's like, you know the she bears story. Do you have to keep that one? It's weird. It's like it's really important. I'll self publish you. Fuck It's like, okay. Okay. No, it's fine. You can keep you can keep the bears But like it used to be much worse. Well, the story is that's it does like yeah, I get the point but like Do you have to tell the point this way? There are many ways to tell the point, all right We've added like the original involved like one of us point individually and personally Why do we have to write this shit down? Who's that you believed enough to publish a book? A lot of steps to them I remember Psalms was okay. There was some cool stuff that you could pull from Psalms But that was because Psalms was more just like a string of quotes like more so than than a set of stories Uh, didn't need to go on vacation A lot of it was pretty good I didn't need to go on vacation while the workers were living day to day because Feminist frequency went bankrupt living like a true commie that one Did that go bankrupt? I don't know any specifics on that wouldn't surprise me. I mean that money's got to dry up I was gonna say nobody's fucking funding them. So I guess it's got to stop at some point Yeah, oh, do they let me check there. Maybe they still have a patreon or something up or something um Let me see feminist frequency This maybe as I type in feminist frequency patreon google's like, oh, oh, we got one. Someone's actually looking it up um Feminist frequency is creating problems for the patriarchy aka podcasts This is how they this is how they wrote it. It's creating problems Yeah, this is how they uh, that's how they wrote it Okay, okay Here are their uh, do you here? Here are their Tears Minimum five bucks, of course you can be a vanquisher of patriarchy for 29 oh my god, dude for just 25 I can vanquish patriarchy and They have 429 patrons and they're getting 3200 a month so that's Yeah, that's That's something else But here's the thing too, um, their minimum is five bucks Do you want to know some something hyper cringe and downright like we're going into hell will ranks? I would love to know something hyper cringe Okay, so I only know this because I briefly saw it on a stream In article form. I told Fringy about it. Um Apparently I'm gonna remain vague on names and places because first of all I'm not 100% sure where it was but also then I don't get any allegation trouble. I'm just paraphrasing events All right, you can go google for these things to see if it's true It was an event somewhere for pride and Obviously a lot of it was related to like I guess pride for race as well and um, they were stopping people They're stopping people at the entrances To give them tests To see just how white or black they were And that would determine how much money they had to pay to get in That's pretty cringe That's not that's what we go good old-fashioned discrimination Really bad, but it's for the right reasons. I mean, it's probably you can't be racist to the whites Because racism is privilege plus power. Well, I mean we've just changed that saying but the idea here was that Black people get in for free white people have to pay and that it was under the idea of reparations Oh, yeah, that's how they were justifying um literally like What the like where what's happening like you literally are preventing entrants to pride From white people unless they pay it's like guys Hate to bring up that good old horseshoe meme, but what the hell you go in a little far It's okay when we do it to the right people Someone uh, someone's uh, the best bible verse is proverbs chapter 25 verse 24. Let me take a look Let me see Better to live on a corner of the roof than share a house with a quarrelsome wife Now that's some fucking wisdom right there. I take back everything I've said about bible fucking Fucking read it. Uh, you're right. There's gems in there, man. There's fucking gems. There's some good shit in there I Faced bible I like it see it's good stuff. That's good stuff Uh cinematic venom is next efab gas to when well, you know what not saying no to anything Oh, yes to anything. We'll see what happens as time goes on. I heard He released his new lord the rings review And um, I haven't seen it, but from what I hear it's it's a little different and and his previous one that way A little different Now since we're on the topic of all I think amazon's patriot is good I think someone's mentioned amazon the show there's a show called patriot before um, but I am out of the loop on that one Likewise The real power brick was the friends we built along the way. That's cute awesome I'm just glad I got times two now. I can feel way richer I don't have to worry about true jedi because it's pretty much gonna have to like fail miserably not to get it now uh Yay bible efab fight the bible do it cowards Not really fair. It's just a little book. Well, we can kick it over and it'll just I'm pleased when efab brings up religion Especially because they helped in the sense that because of them I decided to apply my standards equally Damn Well, so the the thing is right someone's gonna get offended by this But I mean it's the fucking truth me ringing and rags kind of treat the bible just like we treat um a lot of stories Which is like someone wrote it. They tried to get a message across that is pretty inept And we're not a fan of the characters My lord. Yeah, so yeah, we're not yeah, very unsympathetic protagonist um A lot of the villain is Stood While the hero is like He's a bit of an asshole Yeah, it's it's written shockingly like a lot of the bad media and stuff we get today And the themes are the themes are definitely not supported by the work itself Who have you read all of it? I actually think I probably have It's been a long time since I've A lot most of it I've forgotten because most of that everyone will forget because um Huge chunk of it is dry boring garbage But yeah, there's the stuff that a lot of people Yeah, I wouldn't you know what I wouldn't have to read it If god just spoke to me directly in my head at no cost to himself, but that is all right uh Where's jango could target multiple people? I would make his double shot cooler Um The bible is nuanced. Oh, it is the bible is very nuanced my dude. It is super duper nuanced Definitely very nuanced the space lizards made god do it. Well, yeah, that could be the case for all we know Yeah, I have some sympathy there for that I'm so glad I wasn't raised in a country full of religious maniacs something in this comment is not allowed by youtube what the hell um Would it be maniacs? Because what people are doing to get around it is to spell everything in a weird format I can still read it, but I guess youtube doesn't detect it I'm not sure like maniacs might be enough for youtube to clip you on that. I don't know um Tringy's has been hotel tech made no sense that shows world is awful, but in the well I shitty pace full of shitty people Sense like living in south sudan What I really don't know. I think so Tringy's said that um, you can die in hell Therefore wouldn't you kill yourself to escape eternal torment, right? Isn't that the idea? I don't know because I haven't seen it yet if we're talking about the What's it called the has been hotel thing because I've never seen it. I don't know Anything about the lore or the story Yeah, and I think this business saying a lot of just because you're in a place with a bunch of shitty people Doesn't mean you kill yourself and I think it's like I think we're talking about the extremes here for you just Highlighting the interesting nature of hell can be escaped by dying you know Kind of weird In ds9 is a guy that is a bit of a gary stew. So around season five They added to his story that he's genetically enhanced to justify his over skills Um, also high-race guy wolka also rag is where are you in t and n g so far? I've watched it all It's been a while since I've seen a lot of it, but um That would be a show to go through I think that would be a really interesting set of e fat minutes We went through all of star track. I think I think people would love and hate that They would love to see us go through it And they would also hate it if we didn't like particular episodes. They love, you know Yeah, I think there are some quite good ones, but there's a lot of bad ones like season one I don't think there's There's not a lot of good stuff at season one that first season So but but there is there are legitimately good stuff There's just a lot of good bits like you could if a random like I remember, uh I think it must have been like last month or a couple months ago. I was at my folks house And after dinner we were just sitting around talking and there just happened to be an episode of star trick voyager on And we just sort of watched it And it was it's kind of good because I liked it. It was enjoyable and there was cool I expect farscape. I remember farscape I saw all the farscape. I remember liking sculptius and uh Brighton's relationship quite a bit. I wouldn't mind rewatching that someday too You know what potential is infinite with efap. You never know what we're gonna cover But I would say like for all those out there who'd be like excited at the prospect of us covering star track If you knew ahead of time that we were gonna dislike maybe 60 70 percent of the the eras that you love Would you then not want us to cover it at all if you knew that was gonna happen? I wonder Because I'm sure there's loads of great stuff in star track um But I'm assuming it's a show with a bit of a rocky beginning and Possibly bits and bobs here and there's probably like buffy to be honest What which show Oh, just like in general or um, yeah, I guess Do we even even the original series probably has some really good episodes in it, right? I don't know Oh, yeah, there's some good stuff in the original, but it was definitely Like you can sort of tell it's the first one, you know There's good stuff in there. There's good stories. Um, it is You know, it product of its time in a lot of ways And and you got that big gap before tng comes out and all the stuff that went into that and it started very rocky But it got to be quite good over time and there's some really good stuff in there It's like it's just one of those shows where you just listen to people talk to each other And you go, oh Characters talking to each other. That's that's kind of nice how they're just like Talking to each other like people would do Having like conversations and sort of they would hate it and they are not an objective source by adiabatric Us I guess not, um, I feel like we're pretty good. We're trying to be objective wrong that I feel like Oh, yeah, absolutely. I feel like we feel like we do a decent job. Yeah We can enjoy things that are bad. There are plenty of Star Trek episodes that have some pretty big issues with them Um that I really like that have interesting messages that are done well enough What's it go to darmak and darmak I think is just the name of the episode the famous episode darmak Starts off with an absolutely ludicrous and stupid nonsensical premise that makes no sense whatsoever Once you get over that premise It's really it's a really nifty episode that Has a lot of really good stuff in there that's done very interestingly Um, but boy, it's all built off of a totally nonsensical, you know premise, but Yeah, you could you could recognize apparently they meant rlm not us. Um They said the reasoning is the oh, yeah rlm is yeah, they could be wrong rlm has As issues for ds9 that they have money and have space bells I mean, it's not that I don't think rlm are capable of mistakes But I would I would still want to see the context of them saying that to know You know what the argument is Because having money could be a valid criticism of something if I knew the wider context I uh, yeah, I like rlm a lot, but there's definitely things I say But naturally they are you know, they're another agent, so you know that You know Which one has the least consistent universe crisis on infinite earths or Loki as of now or the bible Um, probably crisis. That's what I would go with I think I'm gonna go with crisis um as for Loki I mean, I all of the stuff that like the big stuff in it. It doesn't Truly alter the universe it alters the universe as we know it In a really fucking shitty way that devalues a crap ton of everything like basically devalues everything That doesn't break it Well, I think it like the nothing about the tv makes any sense with what we understand about them All of their like tools how they operate like how they were that yeah, that's that yeah I guess I was I guess I was talking about the yeah, I know you mean another part of it But yeah that too But I just think that crisis relies on Just the incomprehensible story creep of all time and space and the cosmos and reality itself um and Like the infinite I mean like infinite universes and infinite parallel worlds, but I think the Like as far as we know or from what we're told in Loki those can't even exist because they Stopped those parallel universes from happening And multiverses from you know occurring Even though I guess there were a bunch at the beginning But they had a war in the time lizards camera. I don't know. They're still I don't know how much that's actually bullshit Yeah, I think give it time and we'll probably find out of the actual lore whatever it may be And as far as the bible goes it's just it's really It's like it's it's really dumb The protagonist is an idiot is he's an evil homicidal murderous lunatic um The issue isn't like he he behaves fairly inconsistently But he's very often super evil the issue comes in with people treating him like he isn't or acting as if he isn't um But it's not I'm trying to think of if it's like the same kind of internally inconsistent world as crisis or Loki Um, I don't think it's at the same level. I think it's probably the most coherent of the three It's mostly just a lot of incompetence and stupid shit and false assumptions about things Um It's more like the bible comes across as batwoman more than anything else Um, yeah, it's a good This needs to be given attention tk in the chat asks what's the scientific basis for human rights also calls h r christian presumptions h r Because of the scientific basis for human rights. I'm not even sure it feels like a malformed question to me um Oh, yeah, we we just so human rights are not inherent to humans However, they're insanely beneficial I mean, yeah, like if if we treat people like they have rights and we have governments whose job is to uphold those rights With all the problems that can happen because of that it is insanely beneficial It produces incredibly good results And it does really really good for the people who have those rights If we act as if people have those rights, it's beneficial for societies and for individuals. It has demonstrable positive effects That's that's that's the simple way of putting it honestly um Like even like humans don't have inherent human rights. Um We invented those Oh, I guess the point they're trying to make is you can't draw it out of science. You have to find it somewhere else or something It's just like What about if it's just humans agree upon this concept that there are certain things you can't um breach As long as something qualifies as a human Like why do you need anything so that we can come up with that? Yeah There are tens of thousands of many many tens of thousands of years of progress um there We we have found and discovered Rocky as that trip was we have discovered a lot of great things human rights being one of those really great things that make society better For basically everybody Um, and so we thought they were a good idea to hold on to and this time has gone on human rights and the discussion of what is a right and Our ability to preserve human rights has gotten better and better But it's not about the thing doesn't have to be inherent to Uh to have value or to have you know a utility Or you know to be useful Being trolled by my video game Telling me I need to go human rights make these worse for The only thing that I would say human rights could make things worse for Would be the very powerful people and in the short term um So in there in in the in like an immediate Very short term Isolated occurrence, right? um Not respecting someone else's human rights Can be beneficial to you but again You want that's in like that one isolated event like sure Maybe it's beneficial for you in an incredibly short term way of looking at it and just for you That you kill that guy and take his stuff But Because you don't want people to kill you and take your stuff And because you could you know you could get punished for that and we're really good at punishing people for doing that And you live in a society full of all kinds of other people who have to deal with each other all the time It's really really advantageous for you to Act as if people have rights and have them act as if you have rights um There's it's it's like the It's like it this a it's a character that you see in Uh fiction a lot of the times someone who's evil or or or um like if you're playing a d&d game And someone is an evil character and so they just randomly do evil things even though It makes no sense for them to do it and they'll almost certainly get caught It's a chaotic stupid characters um Like i'm going like oh my character's evil So i'm going to pick pocket the king during his coronation because he's probably got some valuables in his pockets And i'm evil and i want to make money. It's like well that's fucking dumb because you can't get away with that and you'll get thrown in the dungeon um But he's evil Seriously, what's this lost my kid i'm from nature. I don't know what I mean in the sense that human brains that came from nature Invented the concept of human rights sure human rights come from nature But every but i'm a i'm a naturalist in the sense that I don't think that there's a supernatural element to the cosmos So I would say that everything comes from nature to some degree but That's yeah, but for a lot of things you have to take a lot of steps back for it Anyone in chat know what this minikit is? It's driving me nuts the game says over here If you look at the screen, they give you a little flash and light for where it is a narrow This flashing light says it's over here Like oh weird and then it's like no actually it's over here to the left like there's nothing here And then you think all right gotta go down then it takes me to this area, but there's no flash and light in this area at all Oh someone out there right brad It's like shooting your own goon for no reason. We hate that trope It's one of my most hated trope. The bad guy just shoots his henchmen In front of all of his henchmen for no reason like Ugh There are places we can get away with it, you know, it's like yeah sure here the dictator of a whole country Yeah, sometimes you can get away with that and it has its purpose But to just randomly go around killing your dudes like so many bad guys do Especially if the bad guy just has a crew of like 10 people or whatever Like yeah, that's a good way to that's a good way to not be the leader anymore because the others will be like Oh fuck this dude's a murderous psychopath We need to take him out because I don't want to get shot randomly on a whim I'm not gonna hate that trope Oh mystery mini kit. I don't actually do anything until I find this thing If no one in chat knows where it is and my detective can't tell me where it is and I can't find it Is a white arrow mola There he's the slight arrow It's all the red one It's a red one Um Season two of the bible the new testament wasn't a lot better than season one Well, you know, there was a lot of opportunities for them to correct a lot of mistakes in the uh First episode that they just didn't take in the second episode Arguably it got even worse because it cemented a lot of things as definitely being real um concept of she all in hell and eternal torment and suffering And they never went back on a lot of the old stuff like slavery is like uh big oof. That's a missed opportunity right there You're right. There was a red. Wait, what the fuck's the red arrow for? I will applaud a movie that does that trip correctly. Yes like a new hope And the empire strikes back No, not a new hope. I'm sorry. Yes the empire strikes back is what I'm thinking of. Yeah Unfortunately, that's probably the movie that started that trope The bad guy kills his own men Oh, uh, I think vader's responsible for that. Yeah, um Yeah, which is a shame because he did it in a way that's totally fine and understandable Yeah, and there's a couple of things that still do it in justify way, but they just I think writers are like It isn't intimidating. He's so willing to kill. He'll kill his own men. You know, like that's not intimidating. That's part of Yeah, that's really stupid in isolation if you were doing it to justify it that way They each fail him before he kills them fail him multiple times Before he kills them thoughts on russia dropping bomb on uk boat I don't know anything about it. Either do I neither do I all right Uh rags, you probably know this story But there is a story that isn't in the current vision of the bible where young jesus killed a kid He was playing with and joseph told him to bring the kid back to life. That was cut but not joe block my ass off I have never heard of this. I'm googling this right now. I don't know about that young jesus kills, I mean jesus google not Jesus infancy Gospel of thomas Suppose the author has been named thomas the israelite. Um It's a biographical gospel About the childhood of jesus believed to date at the latest to the second century Um Let's see Proto orthodox christians regarded the infancy gospel of thomas is inauthentic and heretical A subious rejected it as a heretical fiction in the third book of his fourth century church history and pope blah blah Oh pope glacius the first included it in his list of heretical books. Uh, let's see. Um content um Let me see attention One moment I can play as a droideka Okay, so During play child xenon Falls off the roof of a house Two jews accused jesus to have pushed him Jesus raises the dead child from the dead so that he can testify that jesus is innocent um Interesting A jew who scolds the uh, let's see. Um There is a story here about Let me see. Um in another episode a child disperses water that jesus has collected Jesus kills this first child when at age one he curses a boy Which causes the child's body to wither into a course Later jesus kills another child via curse when the child apparently accidentally bumps into jesus throws a stone at jesus or punches jesus depending on the translation That seems to be a pretty big difference Baby jesus man when joseph and mary's neighbors complain. They are miraculously struck blind by jesus That hurt this curse not miraculously struck this curse Jesus then starts receiving lessons, but arrogantly tries to teach the teacher instead upsetting the teacher who suspects supernatural origins jesus is amused by the suspicion which he confirms and revokes all his earlier apparent cruelty. No, no, no, it was cruelty Revokes subsequently he returns Yeah, he he resurrects a friend who was killed when he falls off a roof and heals another who cuts his foot with an axe And there's some other stuff too Well, wow So this here sounds crazy Matches the rest of the Bible Jesus Wow jesus was just pranking bro. Yeah, it is so funny though the idea like some some guy was like reading this He was like no, we're not putting this in the main law. This is the white list He says i'm an atheist, but man, even this feels heretical to me. He's like, yeah, this is uh This is some this this sounds like fan fiction right here This oh, this is one of those teen dramas that someone writes and puts on telly Yeah, it's just called young jesus or something like that the real jesus goes to hollywood jesus the baby jesus Happy jesus Why can't i have double in this it would make the job a lot easier game just saying Oh, it's cool in here They don't let me touch it because they know that it would be way easier But the thing is none of these are worse than the stuff jesus actually does Every time i introduced a friend to 2000 ad. They said oh, this looks like 40k. How much did warhammer rip off 2000 ad? I have no idea what 2008 even is typically Is it a let's see is it a film? I think it's a film. It's an action thriller made in in 2000 uh The death of his brother leads a young man Aaron quack to the discovery of a clandestine scheme to wreak havoc throughout asia with a y2k computer It's a south korean film. Does it star anyone we know? Uh Phyllis quack daniel wu erin quack rey lee I don't Yeah, it's it's not rated well on rotten tomatoes. It's got a um It's got a It's not even got it doesn't even have a tomato meter for critics. It's a 32 percent from audiences. So it's probably great Someone said I think that's the wrong 2080. I think you might be right. I think that's good Yeah, I don't know what they're referring to um uh 2000 ad Comic Yeah, I don't know. I I don't know what you're referring to I am not sure. Maybe the comics are what it's referring to 2080s u k magazine featuring judge dredg gotch. That was it Judge freed universe. All right rags. What's your favorite trek movie if you've seen and which would you show mohler first? Here's the second half to that but it's for fringy Um, I haven't I'm not familiar enough with the trek movies Honestly to make a recommendation. I would have to see them over again, but I don't think they're From what I remember, they're not very At least a lot of the later stuff I think some of the early ones were good the t and g or sorry. I think a lot of the Right a lot, but some of the og Uh star trek movies were pretty good, but I don't think con is like the best one typically I tend to him not I think that's the second one I think I know my dad likes undiscovered country a bunch. I hear star trek the motion picture is pretty good But I cannot say for certain off of memory. It's been a long time since I've seen them I'd be willing to rewatch them though. There's probably some interesting stuff Has it been a long time in a galaxy far far away? It has been a long time ago, but it's been in this galaxy. It's been a galaxy very very close It's like I'm gonna have to play this one a couple of times. I'm not sure how to be better at this all of these Vehicles, you know, which one's the oh pod racing Well, this could be pretty good slower and it's got better handling All right, we'll use this one next time Um, the other half was fringy. Hello. I have no more to ask and I've paid out for 150 characters Wait see that again. Well, it was directed at fringy. What do you think about that? Oh, I still want to know what your favorite though. I will I will repeat this very important message for both of you. Um Fringy. Hello. I have no more to ask. I paid for 150 characters All right, well, hi Thank you. All right back to more size the canteen Try this again Fringy thoughts on milo enopolis Um I don't know what he's doing now. I heard that he was also in the gay conversion clinic That was the that was the most recent thing I've heard about him. He realized he's overcome his gay infection. You see Now he wants to deconvert So it sounds like he's Either lost his mind or this is just a really crazy grift Yeah, that's all I got for that He wants to help other gay people decode or convert back. I don't fucking know whatever. It's the Problem they've got to get over now Now will we ever get robocop versus the terminator? Hi all Hi, fuck it. Why not? Well, I'll tell you why not. I mean who's making it It'll be it'll be terrible I guess if it would be terrible no matter what we can just give it a little college try But I mean, I'm still in it Paul W. S. Anderson. Oh, he's making them on board. Yeah on board 100 Let's do an alice too But um, I would be that you know, they kill it. I don't think you do that. So Maybe don't bring her in into his Kind of sift infiltrate to just goes down really easily every threatening is it Okay, so far try and make some money Um, hey ragas this one is for you. We here in chat may give you a hard time, but we still love you Maybe get a himbo sandwich or something I'll keep that in mind. I would mind that that sounds great. That sounds great. That sounds great. Let's do it Have ourselves Don't be the meat in that Fuck marry kill the ring girl the grudge girl the nun Oh all right, um I don't think I've seen I'll kill the nun out of the three. I'm killing the nun the other two you might Why's that? Because they're both younger you might be able to convince them out of their craziness the nun is like Much more. Um, she's a super demon from like hell the other two are like case related. I think Oh, okay. I don't know. I feel like I just have more chance with the other two in terms of convincing them not to eat me But um when it comes to marrying one of those two There's no real I don't see how you choose because they're both coming for your flash Grudge girl. Oh the grudge is the Oh, okay Climbs down the stairs all wibbly wobbly Yeah, yeah You you have in trouble with it too Yeah, I don't know. I don't know enough about You know, they made it the ring versus the grudge In japan or 20 2016 I have to see them battle It might be a total parody that would that would surprise me if it was Is this trick to stuff like this? I just have to keep shooting the amount of water that no even collecting things I vaguely collected them. I'm not doing this fast enough 2080 is a uk magazine featuring judge dreads. Oh, yeah Okay, uh, your rags. What's your max rank in mordhow 1v1 ranked if that's not applicable Have you played in high level mordhow competition or competitive? I guess no. No, I just I just play pubs essentially I just play funsies, but I'm quite good I played it enough, but I don't do the competitive scene for that. I don't do any game competitively Not even I mean I play in it with a competitive mindset. I don't do any of them Well, I can't I mean I don't Build it's the key to this Hmm Our destroyer looks like pretty funny I guess definitely not fast enough. Oh, is that millennium shopping is probably the best one If anyone has any advice on completing these challenges, this one in particular is giving me a bit of a This is tough Just a second here Also thoughts on chivalry too. We actually had that question before none of us have played it Mola doesn't know 2,080 magazine confirmed not British google search will show you the influence of 2,080 on 40k Oh, that's that's fair enough. Yeah, I just know Apparently not nobody on this Build podcast has eyes But where is the bomb in this level I'm supposed to use on that tower is it just a bait I consider that almost unacceptable Good Yeah, I'll go back in time sometimes, you know Mando so tizmy in penetrable armor boba's rocket knee grogu's appetite for any creature phoenix blaster dodging imperial tactics Architects for an engineering. It was bad. Happy new year y'all Yes It was quite bad Um I'm wondering this since internet janitor last of us to debate when does Reasonable inference becomes straight-up fan fiction Uh, there's not like this perfect sense of the idea of exactly where the line is you're gonna have to depend on references and then just prior sort of examples in terms of What could be expected? But then the problem comes in of what should be shown Um, it's never gonna be the easiest thing um But we do the best we can between a lot of like like everybody I mean in terms of um Stories a lot of inference has to happen Just the nature of they're not going to show you absolutely every single thing that allows it to make sense But they give you enough You do understand how it's possible like, you know an ex-army guy on your team and he brings guns to the uh Uh The mission and someone is like well, this is a plot hole how to get the guns And then someone's like well, you've ex-army guy's gonna know how to get guns You know, yeah, but I need to see how he got them because I think it may have been difficult And a first I think a good example. This is actually winter soldier, right the um And they were doing the whole uh, oh we need to get falcons wings. It's like you believe that Uh Black widow and Steve Rogers can break into The wherever it was And steal those wings and I'm like probably yeah like With what I know about them and the technology they have and it's like what about when they're in the scenario They are in that film at that point like oh probably not Um, and you just have to assess like resources and stuff same for Bruce Wayne and uh Batman And then it's like well, what if Sam has a friend That has all the resources necessary to steal those wings or he has a best friend who works there and it gets it to him easily Well, they still have someone they can trust that they don't mention it all in the film It gets it for me. It's like and all of these things Like third party to what we know And um that little breach that like line crossed is really tough to explain Exactly where it lies Hello Hey Wonder Woman's Weakness is Ares mustache. I mean it's quite a powerful mustache. I'll do that Luke and mando made me go wow dude pride binary sun pride binary sun Perhaps the sniper had a negligent discharge and a civi just happened to be standing Oh, we're talking about in Wonder Woman. I think when we said the remember the sniper that shot at a civilian instead of any of the active soldiers Yeah Maybe he just had a discharge and the ceiling happened to be in the way. Yeah, maybe So unfortunate Um, did you read my second chat about contractions? Let me have a luke see I might have missed it. Uh, Neeta's on vacation. I got that one The hides of March some authors where they Some authors say don't use contractions when writing books, especially if you're an amateur. So thoughts on that mindset I disagree with them. I think contractions are totally fine I don't want to keep seeing cannot do not must not Do they mean in context of a narrator? What do they mean just entirely because like people say these words people? I mean if they're saying in relation there was an audiobook that I listened to where none of the people use contraction that pissed me the fuck off It's because people don't talk like that people say can't shouldn't wouldn't Not would not should not no, I don't like that I think contractions are totally fine. They're a part of the english language All right, there's your answer. I I think they're fine too. Wait in Yeah, oh, I was So, uh, do it does like a Like an out of universe narrator using them Is that what they're? Well, why would that be a problem though? Yeah, I'm that's what I'm asking. I'm wondering if that's like Okay, well, let's let's let's do a modify if it's a first person perspective. That's a person who's saying Who's basically relaying to them your life? Am I to expect the first person narrator who's meant to be a normal person to say cannot should not would not instead of Can't shouldn't and wouldn't Because that's a bit ridiculous Um, I think for me, it's just fundamentally. They're a part of the english language I don't know why it would be illegitimate to to not have them be part of writing Yeah, um Seem to be That just seems like a latest line. Yeah I'm trying to think of like What because this is the thing you have to um It's like baked in that you've basically if you say like a narrator shouldn't say Wouldn't it depend on the narrator? And it's like if you define that any out of universe voice in text or audio form Shouldn't use contractions. I'd be like, I just want to hear why what's the reason in there There is gonna be no reason that I would accept I think Because they're part of the language so And if they're part of the language, then I don't see what the issue would be If the narrator says gonna or something like that, then I think I would agree with that That's cuz gonna is kind of not even a real word. Even then wouldn't it depend on the context of the narrator? Yeah But if it was a third person like omniscient narrator, that would be a little bizarre But if it was like a first person perspective, it could work I'm so glad I fell asleep during Wonder Woman. Oh Well the film doesn't appreciate that, you know The drink is not empty But I'll mute that's okay Uh Wonder Woman's not just wearing boob armor here armor has a skirt peak sexism. Oh, yeah, there's a lot of um Like lack of preference for skirts, right for women nowadays Uh certain ideas like they shouldn't be put in skirts sort of thing when a lot of women like skirts like A crossover once again of we sexist or are we now Controlling shit. We're doing it. We're doing the opposite. We're fucking it up I Never know let women wear skirts. That's the that's the lesson Just saying the u.s. Military is looking into form-fitting body armor for female soldiers for a reason. Oh Assuming the boob armor has come up at this point in that stream So I don't have breasts of my own I imagine if I had a big old Set of mommy milkers, right to big old titties I would want what i'm wearing to accommodate them because they are mass and I don't want them all smooshed all the time I would probably I would probably appreciate being able to give them a little bit of space to be there. You don't think that's sexist um If as a woman it gives me more things because i'm a woman then maybe it's not so bad They refuse to accept I am outraged i'm going to sue you Okay, oh Oh darn the best lawyers in the country All about that sexism Collecting studs old dash. I don't even know how this goes. Well The other ones I had an idea of how to get better, but I don't know how to get better at this one Just finished soma I have to say I'm not usually a fan of horror games with a story made up for this one Soma just skyrocketed to the top five list play it ringy and chat Oh, no Good shout person Uh Anita's a money positive feminist Oh, they call themselves noise Um, they got John McAfee That's what I've heard from many people I assume That uh, this is going to be a real controversial subject for at least a week Our news goes these days You get to look at women. Why are you complaining? Perhaps there's more to life than simply look No, that was a throwback in her You have to look at women Best argument in favor of tlj Braggs, why don't you make videos on games anymore your vids on full out four days And seven days and immersion and realism were really good videos Daisy Uh, although I they probably didn't capitalize that in a way that would lead you to believe that but Yeah, I um, I will I actually will especially As I play games and I have my thoughts on them. I I will Make videos on they'll probably on dog bites because they'll just be me talking about a video game And it won't be that very scripted or real really well edited I'll just kind of talk about them and discuss them though There will be times when I want to have a very big Video that I want to discuss a video game with that will be on my main channel But for But for a lot of stuff, it'll just be me chatting about it However, I yeah, I do have a video. It's basically done. It's basically done I'll probably just tinker a little bit further with it, but it's practically done I've actually already started on a second one But tomorrow morning at seven in fact in 10 hours I'm going to be leaving for vacation for about 10 days and then after that I'll get those Prepped and ready then post it. It'll be great. It'll be great The things the universe and the universe will be as it should be all will be right for the world Yay Gotta be great All right, I did better this time than I usually do so apparently we're getting better at this That's the important part. I got the million stars with I was just like half a minute over Um, also they said your videos on fallout for days and seven days. They have it with an s as well I guess they meant in seven days easy. Yeah, it's daisy in seven days to die. Yes uh Right you don't understand the bullet was traveling at orbital speed for sea level so it not dropping makes perfect sense Oh my god The more you know, I was playing daisy not too long ago. I can't I started playing there There was an update and so I played it for a while um And it that game still makes me like exhilarated to play it is That game is like it's zero or a hundred and it it's that it's like a quentin tarantino kind of thing Where you can just get this incredible sense of dread as to what might happen um It and it can be so unceremonious and things that happen. I I was sneaking around I actually saved it as a clip, but I was sneaking around. It was sort of it was neared pretty darn um dark it was shortly after nightfall so um I was kind of slinking around and I I was outside of a town and I had a I have a fairly well geared character And I was just running around the woods Uh, it was kind of cold. I wanted to keep on the move with some stuff and there was this little little cabin And some like a ski lodge sort of place that was sort of set up outside of the city up on the hill in the woods And I went there to I went towards it to see if there might be stuff in there But I was being cautious and slinking around and sure enough there was a guy who was there and they had their light on and It was just you you have these encounters and it's it's so Like it's dime a dozen in other games, but in this game It still makes my heart race when you just happen to come across another player Or when you know, there's someone around you or when you think there might be someone around you Like if you're just walking through a town and you see a dead player on the ground And you're like, oh, fuck. And then you're just then all of a sudden, you know Shit serious and you pay attention to every little noise and you're always looking around because It's still a game that does it for me even after all this time. There's there's a lot that I really really love about that game Um, I had an argument with a guy who said all are subjective because different culture and times have different standards for good thoughts Told me if I like something I think it's good brought up the room didn't reply um So that's the reason why we love appealing to cause and effect doesn't matter where you're from in this universe cause and effect applies to you It'd be dinosaur from venus You still are aware of cause and effect um Is what you're talking I think that would be relevant when you say I don't know like Dom's are good if they have western values or something just strictly and someone else is like well I don't even know what western values were so how would I be able to judge anything of this? Someone like that and be like, hmm How does someone and it's like you have to go deeper. What is more intrinsic? How is it weird? Though I will judge the shit out of something that has shitty moral values like that woman And the dcu and you know what most things these days Don't practice lighter medicine unlicensed people Yeah, uh thoughts on the office us and on community I uh dream is great Well, I guess we'll just roll out the standard. So season one's real good season two and three are great and season four is like Some good stuff in there and season five is real great and then season six is the community that is um The office us. I think the first season is the one with a kind of try and Try and do the british one They just repeat everything over if you've seen the british version and it's it just doesn't quite feel right But then they sort of start doing their own shit. Oh, there it is. Was I supposed to be using this the whole time? It's seeming embarrassing if this is like the key to it um Oh, that wasn't a lot Probably not. Well, it's probably worth doing but it's not the key to everything. Anyway, uh I was really I only watched the office us like relatively recently for the first time I think like a year ago and uh, I liked it a whole bunch. I fully recommend very funny I mean really strong character stuff in there as well But uh, yeah, it's surprising you watch it and you see the birth of memes everywhere Like oh, shit. I know this one and this one and this one Memes that's how you can tell something's good Well, I guess the prequels is there's a lot of exceptions actually Why stay alive long enough to actually use these missiles? Let's find out Like me and the missiles disappear as well. It's going to be dying way faster this time than I was before I pissed off the stud gods Oh, shit. I got this too Hmm Well, let's find out how much it's worth What have I been missing out? Happy new year massifs ever heard of the local 58. It's a cool psych Psych horror show on youtube good if you want to spook yourself for a few days The local 58 Never heard of it I've never heard of that. No I'm gonna assume free hasn't either No, I haven't Now you keep missing my jeepers creepers super chats. I sent it earlier in the stream and you never read it out Oh, and you see and you see I just saw the one we said you never read my super jeepers creepers super chat. All right. Well Unfortunate that I would have read the ones that weren't the question Also, I think you would have had enough room in that one We told me to read it to put whatever the question was in there. I'm on to you Let's see Thoughts on the new jeepers creepers movie coming out this fall jeepers creepers reborn thoughts on all three It's a continuation from the second. I'm so hyped because it's been an 18 year wait for it So I've seen the first two um Well, I think I have this was the second one all about a bus I remember there being a bus um That's the case and yeah, I can't remember that But uh jeepers creepers was never that impressive to me But I mean I'm I'm happy for jeepers creepers fans to finally be getting the jeepers creepers content, you know Hope it's good. Hope it's not poopy You guys ever see any jeepers creepers at all? I haven't Nope I've heard of it though premise is like a monster thing that Um to stay alive. He has to like eat parts of you and then they'll become part of his body I think Do we like so does he have to eat people's penis? Oh, yeah for sure get rid of me um I that's strange um So there's three there's a trilogy Yeah And just in longs in the first one and I think he like gets an attraction for a particular body part from a person Then like hunts them until he can kill them and then take it I think that's the whole point of jeepers creepers Does he like anything in particular about some body parts like ah that left that toe of you Well, you really like just in longs eyes I don't know if it were something special about just in longs eyes. Yeah Oh, they were neat Interesting, you know this mission would be a lot easier if I were invincible just saying I did talk about consistency as a standard for good in that argument But he said other times and cultures wouldn't necessarily value that Well, if the point of it is it doesn't rely on other people Okaying it then it wouldn't matter if theoretically everybody didn't okay it Like um, but who's gonna be madder that it makes less sense At some you never hear it you never hear it that movie made too much sense Yeah, I never ever have ever heard that once the best version of that argument in a realistic way coming up is the one That Lindsay Alice believes happens but doesn't actually happen where films try to over explain To avoid plot holes, but that's actually just yeah not a thing Pretty rare pretty rare and even that would be an execution issue. Not the actual not an actual issue Yeah, talking about how flimpy the dialogue is or um, how inefficient, you know Conversations are how people aren't explaining things properly when they should be yeah Are they're telling other people things they already know for world building or just expository dialogue? Um, but you don't see that um and like Lindsay Alice reckons that part of what's destroying a lot of good films now is is an adherence to avoiding plot holes And I'm just like you fucking will do you in? We ain't gotten there yet. It'd be nice if we could experiment with that world for a bit when you guys think Hmm What a hellish world where people have to like make things make sense. You're like, I don't know. Can we try? I don't know Do what happens? I think it sounds kind of fun Angry Joe just gave the latest episode of Loki a 10 out of 10 I'd be really curious to talk to him about it. I'd just be like What is it that would be what would you be critical of what could it do that you'd be critical of? Yeah, I would be yeah, what could make this bad? You know Nice to see people are enjoying stuff, huh? What order would you rank the cornetto trilogy? so first um Hot fives then very very very close to one of the dead and then uh world's end Probably the same for me I do love all three of them though. I think they're great. Yep. Yep uh We're worth mentioning. I think that Uh, world's end gets overheated I think so too by the sounds but it seems like people don't like that film nearly as much Unfortunate, but what are you gonna do? Hmm It's worth even taking this tower down. I'm assuming it isn't how much did I get from it? I think I got 10k. Oh shit. Okay. That was actually very worth it You can find a more elegant way of destroying that tower will be golden Um, also if each of you has the opportunity to add something to the flag of wales, what could it be and why? I don't know if I'd add anything. It's pretty cool flag on the front Yeah Maybe give the dragon a gun Just to make sure you understand he's serious But pop the safety on don't want to try and imply he's reckless Anything you would add rags the um That's the dragon or the griffin. Sorry Oh, it's definitely a dragon Oh, oh, okay. I got you. I was thinking of something else But what would I do to it? Um I might change the colors um Green white and red They're fine, but I I think I might change the colors to Hmm I'm not sure I have to think about it. That's probably what I changed because I like its simplicity It's just a bi-colored background with a A bold, you know dragon profile on it. I like the simplicity of it I yeah, I wouldn't do much other than maybe just change the um Change colors a bit the only preference for a color of a dragon. I guess it was only one color I might May it might be red or orange I go with an orange color maybe Yeah, I I'm thinking Maybe an orange You said um, but I red or orange at first the Meaning that it is right now. Yeah, that's Yeah, I'm just thinking. Yeah, because I might because I might keep it red. Uh-huh or I'll swap it to orange But it's yeah, I like the dragon part. I I'm thinking Maybe white and blue With well, I don't know. That's the thing. Um, yeah, I might change the pattern of the background a little bit to where The dragon so three color background Arranged horizontally and the dragon only takes up the space of the middle stripe So it's very similar We just add another color and then the top and bottom stripes could be a color And then you can have the middle stripe be a color that contrasts well with the color of the dragon But really just I wouldn't change it too much I like it. I it's I think it's a powerful effective and incredible flag Also like the flag, I think it's a big old meat boy It's impressive Come on. Did I do it? Was that in the time? Please make it so I don't have to do this mission again Winner that probably means I did it Oh With four seconds three seconds to well three and a half seconds to spare Uh since the Jeepers creepers was brought up. I want to remind people that the director for the Jeepers creepers movie is a Oh, uh, it's a pedo apparently who sent us to three years but left in 15 months. Damn Who we talking about the new Jeepers creepers movie or the old one and I don't I don't know who ever made it I guess that sucks uh I doodled eFap comic and now wondering what would be the most appropriate way to send it Without bothering you um Well, uh, just do if you send it on twitter right now and you have me and fringy one of us will definitely catch it Mm-hmm that all the gold bricks for episode four it is we did it Now how many midgets do you think each of you could take in a fist fight before being overwhelmed? probably In a fist fight I almost feel like if it has to be a fist fight punching downwards that there might be Well, I was thinking you pick one up by the lag and start swinging them around at the others Yeah, that that's definitely something that you could do. Um I I guess if it could be just a brawl in general, that's a good idea, but If it has to fist fight. Yeah, I feel like it will leave. Oh, I think the length of the arms is a big thing though But you only have two you got the really long arms to punch them But you only got two arms. That's a thing Yeah Well, again, the idea was like how many would make it to where it's really hard Um, and if you only have two arms, that's a fact, you know, you got to consider I really don't know. I I feel like I could take on a few but I just I don't know how quickly and in what manner they may overwhelm me You know, it is complex to know exactly whether or not I will be fully defeated um Probably probably surviving even five. Oh, I don't even know. What if like, what if they're resilient little bastards, you know Yeah, I'm gonna hit them down. They keep getting back up and then some of them grab your legs and distract you and you know It's tough to know the answer to that honestly, I'm not sure Some people say more the fucks like hey look answering the question honestly trying to get an answer here. Okay One Follow-up is how many midgets could take down a bear If if they got any weaponry other than nails and teeth Yeah, maybe the bear will choke on one of the midgets hmm You think with just like he just the bear gets so fucking confident over a confident and just like gourd engorges itself on a On one of the I don't know the fucking mayor of munchkinville or something and he just it just chokes him And he dies and he just chokes to death I picture like if you're gonna really be strategic you have one of them go for his eyes the bear. I mean Get him out So it's just gonna have to flail because that's something you can try and kind of do with just with with midget fingers, right? I'm gonna take get them fingers in there and then just nails and Those eyes are going out And then at that point if you've dealt damage that they're bleeding out of the eyes The bear is only it's on a timer at that point, right? Hmm, I don't know. You know, I'm just trying to think of think outside the box here. Well, maybe that's in the box. I don't know The important thing is we tried to simulate this Yeah, I feel yeah, I'm thinking a bear is just so strong and it's got the claws and the reach But what if we're dealing with like a hundred midgets here and there's piling onto it See here's the thing. I just The I don't know if they would be able to a bear is not slow A bear is tall And they're strong. I don't know if you could I don't know if a hundred midgets could organize themselves in a way Where logistically they could all pile on a bear and let's say that happens, right? Now what the bear is just kind of gnash its teeth and claw away at the midgets until they just fall off of him That's kind of what I was thinking And that's why I was thinking go for the eyes because then the bear is just eventually it'll die from Some else Maybe unless the bear just starts wildly flailing around with its claws But it's just one of those things where you wonder what's what's the move? What can a midget do to actually What's the kill move that the midgets have if they even have one? I think that's the point of the question, right? It's like how many would it take to really And you just like you have to figure out what damage is they dealing per midget and then you times that until you reach Like you know bare death, but I just don't know what that damage is Yeah, like do we have a um like like a sheer blunt trauma in terms of Like all the midgets punching him or would that would just would that just be like a massage? Hmm It's a tough question. I really am not it is a tough question. It's wonderful. The age is definitely Perhaps better men will one day answer it What if they had little knives? Well, see I feel like that betrays the the spirit of the question Like if we give them a weapon then of course we're gonna get answers pretty quick in terms of You know like midges with knives I think we're looking at an even if if they all spawn in an arena and they all have the courage to Just bum rush the bear I feel like at least 10 you'd need for that What do you guys think about the knives one? If they had knives that's a huge force multiplier for the midgets that is insanely that is a huge if I take How big are the oh, yeah I mean Yeah, the the size of the knife is a big thing That's huge that given that um, yeah pocket knives I mean if it's not like kitchen knives Like that's a that changes things entirely like the bear might be fucked In fact, the bear probably would be fucked if the midgets had like big knives We'll see I think that it's game over the second you give them knives for the bear depending on the number Like it's always they're always gonna win as long as we keep pushing the number up But what is that number do you guys think? And if we can go we have a knife one good stab in This thing if a bear is tough, but you stab it in the right place with a big knife in Ooh, it could be going down. It's if it's in the neck or if it hits a big vein and it bleeds too much. Um Uh I don't know. Um I'm thinking that if you have if if you have some quality midgets Then It might not be that many Especially if they come at it from different angles if you have if you just have two midgets But they come at it at either side I think the bear might be in some serious trouble. Just two I yeah, that's I'm not saying you're wrong. I find that interesting. Yeah I think that being surrounded is a huge problem If you are a fleshy bear and you don't have any armor And One stab can be it I picked your bears of the kind of so what is it does it count if all the midgets are dead But the bear is also dead If all of the midgets are dead, it's a draw, but if one prevails Yeah, in that case, I would only modify mine that one of them stays back So that we can guarantee the win I feel like any midgets that get involved directly they might take one swipe and be done for like I don't know. They have to be a little they are they are yeah, and I And a bear it's not going to kill you all at once. It's going to like maul you that's a process Which is one of the reasons why maulings are so terrible. It's not one thing It's going to scratch and it's going to claw and it's going to it ain't going to be a clean quick death Yeah, getting mauled by an animal is a horrible way to watch the revenant, all right, and then you understand a valiant a valiant brave midget even if it's getting Mauled by a bear. I wonder if that's a modifier stabbing a courage of the midgets Oh, yeah, that's like that's what I was saying that when I stress the two midgets, right If they were high quality midgets who were brave and had a plan and they were good at stabbing Maybe to approaching it from opposite ends The bear might not know how to handle that because the midgets they're there midgets are just as smart as you and I May be smarter. Who knows? I don't know So they use tactics and they wait for that opportunity to get that stab in And you know and you stab fast. It's not just one stab You got that little arm and that knife and you're just going to town on that bear. You stab stab stab. It's like a shanky Yeah, as long as the one midget gets in there like be gg for the bear Yeah, that's yeah knives are It's one of my big pet peeves about games It it seems to be extremely prevalent in video games that knives are slashing weapons No Stabby they are They're knives are very very good At if you're trying to kill a person stabbing repeatedly very quickly over and over Bam bam bam bam bam stab stab stab stab stab stab stab very deadly very deadly so So, uh, we can agree between the three of us the 10 midgets with knives versus the bear is an automatic win for the midgets Would you say I think the midgets will win if it's 10v1 if they have knives But I think here's the thing. I don't think if you had a hundred midgets who had no weapons at all That they would be able to take on a bear. I just don't think they have a yeah I just I don't see how midgets could kill the bear I don't see how it would be possible. How does the midget actually how do they what's their plan for killing the bear? Not just inconveniences pretty vicious, but like You I think you said earlier that you wouldn't expect them to be able to Like what do you think the likelihood of a midget? After many tries being able to dig out the eyes of the bear while all the midgets are all over the place, you know Um, there's probably pretty low. I don't we don't need to talk about that until we decide if that's possible Is that happening? I I don't know an animal's very protective of its eyes Um, of course, and it's very in a bear is pretty high up And it can stand on its hind legs and bear is well like I would presume The bear is gonna go down on its For at some point to do some damage in some way and if a midget takes advantage of that opportunity To try and jump up there and get to the head and then just dig his hands right in the eyes I feel like I might be able to do some and it's a particularly courageous, you know, little guy. He's gonna get he's not gonna give up I feel like it could happen, but again the other problem is like does that necessarily lead to the bear's death and it's like I don't think so. In fact, he's probably gonna get enraged um If he's not already angry in this scenario where he's you know, he's just doing his bear thing and then this army of midgets Just turns up. I feel like that would be annoying You're trying to have a peaceful night of day Humans can't kill anything without tools. I'm fucking wrong. That's not Yeah, that's wrong. Why would you even say that? Yeah, that's that's not right. That's not correct at all You think you think if a man wanted to Fuck up a chicken or a rabbit or a hamster. He could like a rat or just any small animal I was already thinking about it. I mean or a dog like Think of all the animals that you could strangle Just just think of just strangulation. Think of all the animals that you could just strangle Humans are not weak. I'd say we're pretty big dudes compared to a lot of other things Yeah, we have intelligence that allows us to fight like smart Not necessarily hard, but when you consider the kicks and the punches Um, but yeah, think about the kicks and the punches strangulation um You could yeah, uh a human could Fuck up all kinds of critters. I don't know. We've got a decent enough bite. We can fuck a few things up with that I yeah, I think the reason why we find it hard to think that is because us as human beings like in this situation Yeah, it feels like you know a dog could really screw us up But if we really wanted to like that dog's gonna get annihilated Yeah, if you just kick the fuck out of a dog Which is a horrible thing But if you kick the fuck out of a dog that's attacking you just the sheer blunt force trauma from you really not not just kick it I mean stop it really kick the fuck out of that attacking dog then That's gonna hurt just the sheer force of your foot Oh, and it's not to say that you won't be hurt like you're definitely gonna get hurt with a lot of animals that you attack but it's the idea of Yeah, you will get hurt If it means dying like if the alternative of not fighting back as hard as you can means dying Like such as the nature of getting into a fight with an animal and that's the same for other animals in the animal kingdom It's like yeah, this shit's risky like you are taking a risk sometimes when you fight animals It's like they do like a lot it was a spider on the floor It's like you wouldn't you gonna take care of that without any tool you just squish it. You're like, yeah It's like, yeah, I got a foot don't I? Yeah And again, this isn't like weaponry or anything like that. There is absolutely an aspect of These this is a process It's not just there's there's not the kill shot, you know, there's not that There's not like a kill shot that an animal will often have It can it cut you up to bleed you up enough or Suffocate you or something like that and It's it's not Yeah, that's something you have to consider too Does the animal have an ability that will kill you not just hurt the shit out of you And cut you up and chew you and things like that So big part of it. Yeah, the bear is looking like he's gonna win unless these are given something to really work with It'll be interesting to see in a digital simulation in terms of you've got a really accurate representation To see how these midgets would be able to pull. I mean if they were just straight up, you know Six foot guys I mean like what what do you think? That would do in terms of against the bear Do they need tools? Do they have well if they have no tools? What do you think these? What do I feel like they're still in a lot of trouble there? Like yeah, I think so too, but do you think there's a chance to kill in the bear? I honestly know I think you need I think you need tools for a bear. I think you need a knife I think so Because you will not be strong enough to hurt it just by punching it Yeah, a bear is not going to comply with uh Compliant, you know, this is not the bear is not going to allow you to do it's going to be actively resisting you So sure if the bear was sedated you could just cover up its mouth and nose and kill it easy But this bear is going to be actively resistant. It's probably going to try to get away from you first off Well, it's the idea of um if we had these two on a field and it's like three two one You're both looking at each other go and that's the status. It's like yeah, that bear is going to fuck you up Look, I don't know Even with like the super strong super fit seven foot guys even with like 20 of them It's like I guess one of them's getting eaten while the rest of them just try and he's gonna die Yes, I'm going to die. I just wonder if all of them would die and how many it would take um Man, I'm not sure it's just Uh, I don't know It's tough. It's um Yeah, I think it's just the idea of how much damage can a human being without tools inflict on a bear feels like Really beaten at the bear, but I still don't know how much it's gonna do Mm, especially with you know adrenaline and all that for the bear as well There's a handy rock, you know, but I feel like that's cheating rock Yeah, that's a problem. That's a tool. I think yeah, yeah But if there was a rock I would put more odds on the humans winning at that point Against the bear Yeah, I think if you had a rock that would help a lot. Oh, no, I don't think so. I'm still with the bear Whoa, whoa, whoa, for you. So rock faces. They're all I didn't I didn't say that. Oh, it increases the rods. Yeah Yeah, I think so, but I think the bear is still definitely winning Yeah, because how are you gonna if we have to bash seven if we had Potentially like so the guys just keeps we keep running the simulation with like 50 51 52 and they all have rocks I feel like there's gonna be a number eventually, right? I mean, eventually. Yeah, it's I would say it's not impossible. No, you know, that's attrition at that point How many humans do we wait that would apply to the the midgets as well? I well, I think eventually midgets against all odds would probably be able if you if you'd ran it enough times They would win just because the bear would get exhausted Um, I think they'd get enough hits in You know the odds the more people there are the more chances there are for a hit to connect And so it's just a matter that a certain number of hits that will incapacitate bear when you say it enough hits will connect What are you referring to? Like how many times do you need to strike a bear on its head before like there's just serious blunt force trauma to the brain? Um, is this with the stone without the stone or both with the stone without the stone Oh, man. I feel that bear. I feel like they're gonna have enough energy to hurt everybody else so much That there won't be enough people around to to hurt it when it's tired Well, if we said a million midgets, right? Oh, well, then yeah, I guess at that point the bear would lose. Yeah Just a flood of midgets over it. Yeah, and I'm picturing one of those simulation things where it's like an arena But they're just pouring out of this little like tap Yeah And they're all angry the bear that's cheated on the the the wife cheated on the way the bear is why they're all pissed It's not about you Fringy, but like if someone cheats on Your wife, you just like you don't even really care who it is. Sometimes you'll just go out and beat a person to death Oh Yeah, that'd be uh, that'd be pretty Bear will fucking get like you won't even know what's going on. He'd be like, I thought she was single. I don't know Oh, god forbid the bear didn't even sleep with anybody. It didn't even do it. The bear was totally innocent. They're coming Nothing's stopping them They've been wronged by this person who Person who wronged them and does not have any obligations to that person anyway But uh, you know Bitch chokes to death on midgets. I mean, I think rags mentioned that that's a possibility. It's a possibility. Um But yeah, I think uh, midgets would have a very hard time of it Yeah, I feel like we can't really do much more for that question. It was very interesting to think about but I just Yeah Hi, best boy raggy. Hello fringle. Hey Moodle that's metal's name. That's not my name and maybe they're just talking about he's sleeping right now He'd appreciate it. Oh, this is watching from afar. Yeah, that's probably true Uh, have a few of me shekels long man. Enjoy the fantastic game. Oh, well, thank you You each get a mythical creature companion or pet. What do you choose? I'd go for a little fairy myself A little companion or pet so they could be A little companion or pet from a fantasy one of the victorious midgets, maybe Um, I think I'd want a griffin Why a grip? Gryffins are cool I can fly around and all that Oh, are they I thought that in every scenario, they were like little little bite size versions or something Yeah, like an ant like a like a big companion animal or a familiar Oh, I just assumed I could have like a life-size griffin Maybe that's maybe that's how big they really are. Yeah, I don't know. Uh, yeah I don't know. I don't know what I would want. I Kind of on board with with anything I'm more concerned with its personality and function than what it looks like really I wouldn't make does it grant wishes or is it just something I talk to Which is no problem by the way The griffin could talk that'd be awesome Or a dragon I guess Somebody like or some something that I could If if it was as intelligent as a person or intelligent enough Like a like a buddy like just a buddy that would hang around with you and stuff. Um, I don't know That's tough. Yeah, I'm I'm really not sure I want to be able to take him places So he couldn't be too big But he wanted I'd want him big enough to where Like he couldn't get lost or hurt, you know, I don't want him to be a bit sturdy just so that nothing bad would happen to him Uh, so I'm I'm thinking like medium dog sized or Bigger like that that kind of range dog ish range Only enough my brain was thinking I might just want a dog. It's like I would buy the dog Yeah, like a really intelligent dog that you could talk to and stuff That'd be pretty nice. Actually, that'd be pretty great. But you have one of those Well, you know, um, this one is like my my one that follows me around everywhere, I guess and gives me advice Okay, all grants wishes. Like I said, I wasn't sure about that That could be cool. Yeah a dog bit grants wishes. Well, oh, I don't know that's quite a power Yeah, I want to be I want to fuck anything up like the whole world or anything Yeah, it would be bad. Especially if everyone could just make any wish they wanted and it started to come true The world wouldn't last a second. There's enough psychopaths out there Oh, yeah How would you guys rate unforgiven 10 imo looked on imdb? Let's just say the reviews were fascinating So it's my favorite western and I think it's excellent. Not sure I'd give it a 10 Definitely watch it to be sure that it's fucking good I chances are if you ask us if something's a 10 we'll probably say no just as a default Because that's a very prestigious kind of rating that we would want to get a lot of consideration and thought for Um, I love unforgiven. It's a great movie I would highly recommend everyone check out unforgiven But I don't I I I need to see it not gonna go with the 10 off the top of my head Yeah, um What if we took an emu and replaced its legs with the isle of man legs? Like three legs and one of them is like up in it while the other two are down. I don't know I feel like it would have to the anatomy that is going to be weird You know if that's what that's what it wants And hello there mulberry fringled ingledo and raggle daggle Hello So they want me to say this the funny part is I don't know if that is welsh or garbage Uh, I'll post that for you. They said pronounce that Good you So presumably I'd say is good you um, but I don't know if that's what it is because I've not seen the word before but I think that's how you pronounce it Um Who wouldn't have fight fringy or an african elephant? Um, oh that elephant's kicking my fucking ass That african elephant is uh, uh I'm assuming If fringy had access to weaponry the elephants probably done so Um, if I had a gun that would probably help. Yeah But if we're talking just fringy There's default self against the african elephant. I mean, yeah I'm not sure what strategy you'd employ to try and defeat it. It's gonna be tough Yeah, it's gonna be super tough I think I was supposed to be destroying these things in a different you can go back Oh, yeah, they still respawn. Okay, we're good. Um I want to watch a live action sleeping beauty, but each dwarf is just gimly I Interesting I'd want different characters though, you know change them up Kind of like the intended to do with the hobbit films Uh, how many easy os does it take to kill a big daddy? Oh etzios, I guess easy os etzios to kill a big daddy uh One if given enough I think given enough planning Because etzios, he's pretty he's smart. He's got all these gadgets me sneaky Um, I and you know, I I feel like He could do it in like in it if they were trapped in a room together Feel like the big daddy would just fuck him up Especially if the big daddy had a gun like if he was one of the gun ones I don't know etzios gonna do in like in a room 1v1, but the fucking generally etzio is He's an assassin. He's he's climbing around and he's sneaking up people and he's getting You know he's getting those the stealth hits in and he's got his gadgets like bombs and stuff So yeah, if etzio can utilize his arsenal and his sneakiness He will be able to beat the big daddy. Absolutely. I think yeah without a doubt Fights like that are awkward where it's like nathan drake versus tomb raider You're like, I mean whoever gets the drop on the other one first, I guess If they got even chances that I feel like nathan drake's gonna win Why? Because they're both really good at guns and they're both climbing except one is physically stronger. So If they evenly match They've both got their guns, right Well, then I guess all I'd say is that they're both just gonna kill each other Equally then because they're both as skilled as each other at shooting and climbing and jumping. Yeah, that's why I brought it up I was like those kinds of questions. I can't really do much with them Yeah, yeah I think I told you guys before but it was like that it was a big Thing with the forum I used to visit where they were like putting characters against each other and um uh etzio beat out um alex morsa Not a thing As much as people will like uh etzio. It's not happening I even remember thinking when they put alex morsa in it. I was like, there's no point. He's just gonna beat everyone Yeah, he's basically unstoppable Um, but they also put like a bunch of normie types like someone like Nathan drake and then they threw in um The prototype big daddy. I was just like again, he wipes out all of the normies Isn't Lara way more athletic though I do like Nathan drake kills so many people in uncharted and survives so many crazy things Like I don't know how we can honestly say that he ain't winning that if it got to like a one-on-one confrontation I have no stake in this but He's also got a thousand games too, which he survives crazy shit Well, I guess it depends on what one we're going by are we going by the most recent one or because if we're going by Like the older ones then yeah, Lara probably would win But if we're going by the newer ones, I feel like Nathan drake's gonna win Um Like Lara kills dinosaurs Yeah, exactly if we're going by the old ones then she probably does win But if we're talking like the actual I would imagine people Well, she kills dinosaurs because she has guns Yeah, well, I imagine Nathan drake kills people because then again, look at all the and he has guns too So but look at all the supernatural threats that Nate puts down in um in in like one and two He's he's fighting these giant crazy monsters that have been beefed up by an immortality juice and he still kills him I feel like this is weird like judging who would win by who they've killed, you know Uh, yeah, I guess but I'm not sure what else we have, you know Well, that's how they kill them and what they kill them with um So Yeah, like for instance, is it that impressive to kill a dinosaur if you have like modern firearms like I mean that in and of itself know It's it's how like what's the arena that we're using um You know, what kind of fire firepower do you have access to does the dinosaur even have a chance? Um that that that that kind of thing Because like if you had to fist fight a deer you'd be in trouble, but generally that's not how You know that those fights go down so It's all there's a lot to it a who would win fight is it's it's you know location location location Is it 1v1 do are both the critters aware of each other? um You know a lot that goes into it Yeah, I mean of course in this scenario, I doubt we would want to say like One of them has the jump on the other because I would just be lame wouldn't it that's not fair I guess it's the idea if you had both of them in a Well, I guess if the it's the criteria So if the criteria was one-on-one in an empty field It's like well, who's gonna get to the gun faster would be the criteria uh in that one Versus I don't know we're in a big jungle gym where you can't see each other who would win It's like that gets tougher because they're both really good at climbing stuff Um, yeah, and of course if they all if they both have their weapons And it's just like I guess it's you know at that point it's really hard to tell But if neither of them have their weapons then surely like Nate wins I wouldn't be so sure of that just because of the ingenuity part of killing someone If they have well, Nate isn't stupid um Like he's a pretty smart guy Just like Laura if the idea literally comes down to strength, then he'll win I suppose but um You know dropping them in the middle of a jungle for example with no guns I wouldn't say like we automatically say Nate wins. I'd be like, well, I don't know um The problem is that we've seen that Nate is able to traverse these environments pretty well We know that he has So there's that as a point of reference. It's like well, then isn't it basically even both of them are good at traversing these environments? So I guess that's a crafting weaponry Um crafting weaponry. Yeah, Laura if we're going by the new ones would have an advantage if that's possible to like craft Weapons bow and arrow something like that, then she'd probably have an advantage there um Yes, um In fact, yeah, and we should run um, we should run one of these someday We should get chat to decide on all of the Protagonists including like mario and stuff and then we jumble all the names up into a big tournament And then we bring everyone on to like discuss who's going to win what be really fucking stupid, but kind of fun I think the only way to decide it in any way close to it wouldn't be fair But it would be the best we could do is um like a panel vote and then if it's a tie then chat vote I guess Or the chat vote in the panel of the chat votes anyway The only problem with chat vote. I feel is that it can be populist Sometimes I feel like there is bias is whichever one you enjoy more is the one you're more like I probably have a bias in favor of Uncharted That sounds fun. Not gonna lie. I mean, yeah, you know, you could be fun I mean the problem is I think that if we involved there would be certain people that we involve in the list We'd be like, well, it's kind of they win pretty much. Yeah, depending on what the IP is Imagine we ended up with something like bowser versus donkey kong Well, that could be interesting. I feel like um Ah man, that would be that would be super interesting actually who would win between bowser and donkey kong We'd have to set up the rules ahead of time as well Like are they allowed the sort of basic set of weaponry that they're typically seen with or no weaponry at all And is it an arena that suits them or is an arena in general that they all have to fight? Well, yeah, because if it was in If it was in a jungle then like donkey kong has a huge advantage But if we're in an open arena it feels like bowser's got the edge because of his favorite thing Even if it was in a jungle I'm I'm curious how much of an advantage that would give donkey kong the problem I think the big thing that works in donkey kong's favor is he might not be as strong as bowser, but he's really fucking agile Um Like bowser is a lot more sluggish in his movement. He doesn't move quite as well Whereas donkey kong super quick can climb stuff Was he bowser can breathe fire and he has a pretty strong armor. That's that's the that's the big part Yeah, so bowser has horns he has claws He has sharp teeth and he has a bunch of spikes on his shell And he could use the shell for defense as well. That's true Um, I think it would be really tough for donkey kong, but I don't want to rule him out Yeah, I feel like yeah one v one I think donkey I I'm siding with bowser, but I can definitely be swayed. Oh, man I just feel like donkey kong might be the dark horse here like he might actually surprise you the breath the fire breath too It's just I know the fire breath. I know that I don't I feel as I was the god thrown into a black hole and he lived Yeah, this is the problem when you go with references we like all of these creatures are godlike in some way Maybe maybe we'll do that someday You know what chat you're gonna have to bug us about it and then we'll we'll maybe do it We'll need to have people actually want to see it. I was just thinking like How many you maybe be a threshold for who we can involve because Again, like alex miso would just have to be banned because it's not fair Um, but I wonder if something like the prototype big daddy would have to be banned as well because He has like a shit ton of weaponry and what you could call magical powers with the plasmids and stuff Hmm and then a real hand feels unfair almost, you know, yeah already And he's got a bunch of magical you can fucking freeze electrocute set on fire It will throw things pick people up. You're just like this feels like you're gonna win Probably I guess that's the issue is though is like how much of what they can do Do you remove before they're not even the same person anymore? Like he doesn't have a drill how different is he how you know, you're not really fighting big daddy If he doesn't have a drill. Yeah, and at that point is he just disqualifies. He's just too powerful I don't know. Yeah We'd have to ask chat what they think about that Because like would it be a little bit uneventful if we involve someone like that? And you're just waiting for them to win because everyone else's fights are kind of inconsequential But then of course That's gonna happen Like there's gonna be people that on the surface are stronger like if we involve Mario, but then we also involve Snake I wonder how we would argue that fight goes Solid snake. Um Well, yeah, because if Mario gets his power ups allowed I feel like if it comes a lot harder for uh for snake He just picture the fight opens the leg begin and then snake just fucking shoots him in the center of the eye the skull Well, remember Mario has two chances because if the bullet hits it'll just make him go Oh And then at that point he'll become real quick and hard to hit Snake as guns. Yeah. Well, this is the thing. I wonder if we would have to saw this all ahead of time But do they get to have guns Um, and if they or do they get to have a fair balance of items scattered around the environment that would be useful to them Like you just have them in a big biome and then to give it so there's like intelligence as an actual Like important aspect of the battle Yeah, I think I like the idea of some kind of terrain And yeah, so you'd have to carry the terrain for what's fair in any battle. Absolutely Because if it's an open arena anybody who has range wins and I don't like that Yeah, range is going to be a huge dominant factor Agile characters are going to be you know, it's some serious trouble as well um Gonna be have arenas or if we have shipping arenas that might be interesting So like for the first hour of the battle It's like this and then it starts to shift into something else that might be beneficial to one or the other They have to have three battles one on What you picture? Oh, yeah. Yeah, we should do that one in the jungle and then one in something like a I don't know fucking industrial complex. Maybe yeah, it was real That's that's the way to do it because it gives them a fair shit It it increases like the ways that we can test what they do so it's best of three And presumably we can revive each of these people and they die But they're the vital chamber bring them back to life Oh, well, yeah, because I was going to say this stuff like that. We just have to rule out. It's not fair. I think We talked about apple of eden was something to do with assassin's creed that people argue. That's why he wins every fight Um, yeah, but I would say that we have to do etio without the apple because the apple is a mind control device It's not fair Well, I was going to say if someone said like let's do an mcu one if it's not fair and then they were like well black Black widow versus galactus. You'd be like, okay I don't know I'm saying it's an unfair advantage in the sense that it's something that is beyond etio is like sort of uh Like you happen to just find it and so oh wait Are you saying in the same way that it would be unfair if donky kong had an invincibility star? You'd be like, well, that's yeah. Yeah, like I don't I don't want them to have something that is just a huge advantage That's beyond their normal abilities that they have Yeah, I see what you mean because it does seem to be a meaningful difference between what they can have access to In in their ip's versus what they have access to typically like drake with a pistol is is much more reasonable than drake with Fucking I don't know some kind of an rpg Yeah, I mean even that you know some I'm sure if he was in smash He'd have an rpg or something as a move mm-hmm I think you did have a rpg and that's uh all stars battle royale game actually Yeah The ultimate battle of ultimate destiny. Yeah um It's like the ewoks taking on a walker Well that went real easy didn't it So that's the what's the one of the problems with the turn of the jedi is that I don't believe that like I can't It's just Like it doesn't it defies all logic that that can be a thing that happens um It's just toilet jedi How many midgets would it take to defeat the gimpy gimpy people for me? um Oh, well the problem is that you like you can't you can't fight them You need a flamethrower. Um, otherwise you you're out of luck And even then that might put the stuff in the air and then you breathe it and now put you in the bad spot too So I would say you need to just walk away from from the gimpy if you find it Molar I have to ask why are you using a y-wing most people don't know what a y-wing is Also, you should consider the question of whether the midgets and the bear were trained previously to fight with each other I assume that there's I mean, would you even need the bear to be trained to fight them? I feel like he's Got it I don't know what they would be trained to do the midgets. Maybe that's just knowledge lack. Don't lacking on my partner Oh, we're making a mini kid God damn it scam colons Bastards You got like 10 seconds of silence. We just waitin like hello, and then I hear a bunch of other people in the background as well We'd like to know if you need car insurance and you're like, yeah, I sounded like that sir. Yeah Hey, Mola, you should watch prepare to try and RKG three lads hanging out playing souls games for the very first time on youtube one of the lads is welsh And I think you'd love them. Hi rags Hi I mean, yeah, that sounds neat. I always it is fun To watch people try dark souls for the first time because it's a game that has a lot of events that happen for everyone pretty much, but they're always Underwatch it happen to anybody that you you have care for Random this is like, yeah, I like I wouldn't mind like maybe compilations or whatever Rags google search japan robot wolves article japan robot wolves article monster wolf robot It's talking about it's a uh, japan japanese monster wolf aims to scare off wild bears Oh Interesting so Yeah, they make like these big flashing spooky looking Wolf robots that are animatronic and apparently they scare away bears and it's fucking scaring me away. Geez. Well, yeah I appreciate it, but I don't think we're gonna allow the the midges to have that in the battle just At that point the bear should have a big scary robot bear something Humans are natural grapplers. We aren't really meant for striking more so for grappling Yeah, grappling is gonna be a big thing especially when it comes to Like choking and strangling Um, if you're gonna do anything else Then tools man. It's all about them tools There are varying levels of good. Can we agree? So if something like Loki isn't good as say breaking bag Breaking bad. Why is it automatically terrible? I feel like you might be new We usually go by a 0 to 10 sort of system those 0 and 10 are rarely ever achieved Um And they each correspond with like just how coherent the storyline is in terms of cause and effect Loki is staggering in terms of how much it breaches cause and effect breaking bad As some flume synthisms here and there Um, but I overall much more to celebrate in terms of how much it adheres to a cause and effect I would argue as well as complexity um and so Really, Loki is bad from our scale whether or not breaking bad even exists Um, but breaking bad is good in terms of just providing an example of something that isn't pure cringe, you know Hopefully that helps you out I saw someone in chat saying that Loki is is still some of the best content we've had in the mcu um Oh, come on. Please stop Well If they're enjoying yet, yeah Well, if they're enjoying it, that's great for them, but yeah Christ Soundtrack is neat Uh, the soundtrack is fantastic. If I'm to be honest, it's really really cool The um The theme is really cool. I like the the music that plays when they go to the alabama place Borla Borla Nathan Nathan never uses melee weapons while Lara fights with a pickaxe and knives I feel like Lara would win at melee unless they have the same loadout Um, I don't know why it would be fair to give her an axe and knives and him nothing Like and also Nathan does some like Often he'll fight if he fights people who use like the gun itself as a physical, you know blunt force Joel Yeah, but but again, it's not fair if um If if like one of them has because one of them has like a fucking Pickaxe and the other one has nothing like yeah, it's you got to kind of fight uphill Well that point it sounds like we're trying to compensate and I should be like if we engage in any kind of compensation Then it's already over and then like okay Nathan Drake can fight galactus if galactus is the size of a person and doesn't have all of galactus's powers I guess the problem is it's like feels um These are two human beings. It's like one of them gets to have melee Like the idea would be if Nate and Lara both had melee weapons who would be more and oh, oh, also you're wrong Nate fights um with a fucking sword at the end of Uncharted 4 Oh my god, he's got a sword But these things that he does Like in a sense that he's been trained or is it just you know like in the same way that you and I could try and use a sword Well, he beats um he beats um Oh my god, I can't believe I'm forgetting his name the main villain in four. Um What was his name? I can't believe rave. That's right. He he fights rave now No, he wins. I was about to say he loses. It's like, well, no, he doesn't he beats him fair and square um Ah, well, it's a bit unfair because he one of his swords breaks and then he gets past another one Well, he loses it and he gets past it back by Sam, but he beats him um And he does pretty well honestly, um considering that rave apparently fenced like he knows how to fence and Nate still basically beat him all on his own so Well, well Also, I just think it's a matter of like Nate has Through fistic cups can beat like a bunch of people when they gang up on him and he can do really well in that environment So one of the things I'm wondering is at what like do we allow You know, how much of an allowance do we make for video game? logic Where someone can do these kinds of things where it's supposed to be like gameplay mechanics and the presentation of those things is like the way that it's you know Like being able to fist fight a whole bunch of people like that or um Like bullet and bullet damage things of that nature. Is that something that comes into the equation? Where we would say oh, that was some crazy plot armor. Are we now using it as evidence of how strong they are? And I mean potential Assuming they didn't have like i'm fine with saying Like like mandalorian, right? Who would win mando or a guy with an ar-15. It's like, well I kind of was a guy with ar-15 all things considered based on what we've seen mando behave, right? Um Because realistically if they fought there wouldn't be an astronomically you know Low chance that all of the bullets would hit him in his armor all of the time every single shot that kind of thing um Whereas if we had a video game where someone did a whole bunch of stuff like Because if it's a video game Then because it's interactive and a player needs to be doing the things A lot of the times we Will stretch what a character could do or something can't like bullet damage is a good way you can get hit four times in the chest with you know An ar-15 or an m4 or something like that But you're still your health bar is not all the way gone yet. So you're still up and running You know I to what degree do we take that kind of video game health point logic in a fight like this? Do we say if as if it was realistic? And as like the baseline for everything We wanted how a jedi would defend against an assault rifle That's the thing regular weaponry from our world would do better against jedi than blasters at least from what we see. Yeah Yeah Talk a little bit about game design with with lego shall we so Right here. We got we got four little I like people in chat that are telling me Like what I did wrong. So let's have a look see Well go forward four little buttons here to step on right And then you go two things that can be made to heat up two skeletons that are lodged in the wall And you release them you construct them and then if you stand on the platforms They'll stand on the remaining two and you get your mini kit now you may notice one of them's missing Why is that? Where is this other? Where is this other skeleton? You see I'm jango fat and When I was making this second heater I have to hold down what is the x button on gamecube If you're not standing next to anything to be interacted with as jango when you press x he throws a thermal detonator Now sometimes when you're standing on stuff looking to build it the game just kind of yeah You wanted to throw that did you? And then it blew him up No That means you can't use him to get the mini kit Which means I'd have to do the level again Oh, this is what we call a a lock of some sort Well from getting the fucking mini kit, but I'm like I'm just annoyed I like the idea that people are like well you shouldn't have blown him up. It's like it's not my fault The same button to construct is throw grenade like what am I supposed to do? I guess switch character to make sure I never risk that it's just like that's lame You just make the skeletons respawn. Why not? It's a fucking kids game You don't need this level of consequence Like you shouldn't have blown up a skeleton should you it's like, okay My bad Force push away bullets. I feel like that's not going to be easy to do Fucking they make it seem like it's really hard to force push away just lasers And I don't know. I don't know which would theoretically be easier. I don't know Anyway, what we'll do is just do the level properly other than that and then we'll redo it Just to get that particular mini kit And then hopefully rush through it Not the worst thing in the world Instead of measuring in baby strength use midgets I don't even I don't even what are we what? I got You you're laughing the ultimate form of life and you're laughing I'm not sure what that was referring to maybe donkey kong Hmm sounds like you got through to sitch. Good job. Mola. It was a little dicey there for a moment If you do a low key if you think you'll have sitch on also fringy. Do you have a favorite australian dish? Oh, wait Um last I heard sitch was just like, okay, you might be right. I don't I don't remember him saying like you are, right? um I don't know that I have a favorite australian dish because I I tend to prefer like Asian food by comparison like chinese Yeah, it's really really good flavorful Um, yeah, I'm not as big a fan of like Western cuisine, I think Uh, it's it varying degrees like I take a towel, you know, like British or something, you know Yeah, no shrimp on the body. What the fuck? That's not really an australian dish. That's just yeah, there's a shrimp on the barbie. Yeah, that's what y'all I don't think I've ever had shrimp that has been grilled on a barbecue ever in my life He just comes out in the mid street like that Dude, I find it interesting that this game has like ray tracing almost um Chicken schnitzel, I don't think the fact that schnitzel is not like an a word that is from english I feel like that is not a an australian dish Because if it was like if we would have said that it was then yeah, sure I'd go with chicken schnitzel, but I don't I'm pretty sure it's like not an australian dish at all Like it's probably german or something If only we had a german around to verify Yeah, I've never met a german. I'm not sure they're real No, he he is real. He abandoned us. He's is real. How do you be a country? That doesn't make sense Yeah, he could be a german though. He could be a germany Germany It's like agender. It's a germany If I was a versus donkey kong is the efap version of godzilla versus kong Yeah, kind of I find it more interesting That probably is more interesting because godzilla versus kong like they'll never commit to anything really like Oh, they both did good. They both get a participation trophy Um give every character the most powerful item they can come across etsy with the apple maria with the star Nathan drake with the anti aircraft train I like that The maria with the star one is like as much as he's gonna be invincible. You're just gonna wait about We want like 10 seconds Yeah, about 10 seconds. You'll be all right. Yeah, as long as you don't touch him. Oh, yeah You're gonna wait. Yeah, you're good. If it's like an arena and he sees you he's just gonna run over there within 10 seconds He's just like like three two one He's like For that you can probably just you can probably do a lot of things for mario Well, I mean don't be the kind of person who dies if you're jumped on um I suppose he has that benefit Like they usually do that with mario where he's like as long as he hits you in a way that looks like he's stepping on you It's like an instant death. It's in like like in like a trump top trumps type The attribute way like an ability has as long as he stands on top of you you die Because mario has stomping this is power top level stomps, you know He thought it was jumping at first, but it's a curse like whenever he puts his feet on the living You know thing if he accidentally steps on your foot. Oh Put them put them You die you're done Over where is my teammate? I'm outraged In the center of a coliseum the ground is deep in mud and the air is hot there free armed with a goose spear Must puncture the elephant's arteries, but risks getting trampled who wins Just feels like so difficult for me, you know, it'll be difficult because the ground is deep in mud does this impede fringy um as much as it impedes the elephant I like the element will be more okay with it than fringy will. Yeah Because yeah, the the weight distribution of an elephant over the big four flat feet And its tallness make it easier than you know two relatively narrow Legs on you know creature might yeah, that might be an advantage for the elephant. I would imagine a problem here Did they say he's armed with his goose spear now does free release the information on his goo yet? Yeah, I'm not going to reveal it for this. I'm not going to reveal it just for this like show I mean not for this little hypothetical We don't know what his goose spear can do. So how can we answer this question? So like we we can't sorry All right Hmm. Yeah, it's unfortunate, but you do Arranger from middle-earth which is this is a witcher from the witcher series probably Oh a witcher's got magic and I don't and I think that's a pretty I can do some pretty crazy things based on you know the signs that a witcher could use are very useful I wouldn't know. I don't know it could be close though in terms of you know skill with a sword It could go either way. I feel but once you start adding magic to the mix I feel like it starts to tilt in the witcher's favor plus their concoctions and potions Um That's that's a lot. That's a lot He may is constantly dying. I was wondering where my teammate is. Are they just like stuck in a hole is always happening? Oh my god, you're right This is incredible ai. That's what I have to say. I'm just gonna leave it here for a bit. You guys can just appreciate Lego at its peak I suppose Oh, no Um, Nathan Drake killed a super powered russian That's true. That's what I'm trying to say. He literally be the dude who drank Immune like basically invincibility juice When Nora has killed some crazy crazy critters That's a thing dude. Who drank immunity juice What clearly it wasn't though. Well, no, I'm saying that it was like mirror immunity Dude just Immune to everything except death Well, I feel like that's gonna cause you problems. Well, he got point up and he was fine and then it took like a lot of bullets Oh, so he's like a resident evil boss Well, he was yeah We're yeah resident evils the series where what I see just has absolutely no meaning. It's just all Whatever well, no, I think it's I think in this case it totally had meaning it was um He was he was defeating a guy who was pretty freaking strong. Thanks to that juice All right, then I know somebody in chat said it was luck that a lot of it is luck But I wouldn't say that there is certainly luck in unsharded But like if Nathan wasn't as good at grabbing and climbing things he would have died many times over His ability to climb saves him so many times Is climbing a gameplay mechanic Um, I mean it's a mechanic in the sense that you climb but there's usually a very clear path that you're meant to climb along so Oh, okay It's climbing as a mechanic in like open combat arenas where you can climb around and get the drop on people but Out of that it's follow the path. It's unsharded. It's linear as hell That's that that's odd for a game called uncharted. Yeah, I agree I do agree Well, I only played the I feel like but um the games are pretty well It felt really locked in when I played the first one like everything very it's very locked in the whole game It's um, if you follow the railroad tracks, you'll have a lot of fun. But if you don't it's not so much Oh, he's just gonna live. Okay. Well, thank you Man Luke helping Luke out. Yeah, dude What's Vader doing here? Oh wait, he was on hoth. I didn't realize where we were You're to kill rebels springy here to fuck them up I don't know if he would have helped them do this though. You know, I feel like this is yeah This isn't right tracing. They're on the uh on the reflected tiles. It's nuts This is star wars. Please don't say ray tracing All right, it's with an a not an e I'm still what I'm supposed to do Tracing always has an a in it Retreat chasing What do we make this happen chat? What am I missing? The future of lego. I actually had uh, when you watch the trailer for the new lego game. Was it not surprising? It looked strangely epic Yeah Does lego games go are you saying that legos aren't normally epic? I said it looks strangely epic not that um, that it can never be epic You need to pay attention to the words we're using. No, that's not that wouldn't have yeah That wouldn't have done anything. I never that that's not what that implies at all Well, what are you talking about? Strangely epic doesn't mean it can't be epic Yeah, hence why I said that yeah, but you're the one who asked me like what are you implying that lego isn't epic to which I responded I said it was strangely epic not that lego isn't epic So again lego can be epic but How is it strangely epic? um, the sheer scale was quite impressive um Lego has usually had a pretty cool scale, but this scale was like off the charts It was it felt uncharted where they were going It did yeah extra harded I would I would recommend anyone in chat who has any vague interest in all the shit I've been doing on this game to go Check it out just to see how different Lego looks to be in its newest iteration. Then again, I was saying to bring it like I kind of missed all of the The lego games after lego indiana jones, I think Yeah, and so I've missed all of the like improvements or upgrades or whatever so seeing it all in the newest version I was just like Jesus christ like that was happened It was it was really because for me. I haven't played since indiana jones as well. So it was pretty surreal yeah But uh, no no word on exactly when that's coming out, but you know could be something that again if it has online multiplayer Which would be nice I would happily do efap gaming lego the skywalkers saga even the episodes With the sequel trilogy just to see if they make fun of them. It would be amusing You think surely in 2021 we'd have Lego games and an online multiplayer because like of course you wouldn't even have to Say that's a thing Well, I guess it would be the idea of servers right today. What's the upkeep on that? It would be peer to peer or something like that. I just probably would actually I feel like because there's It's a good money decision, right? Like hey bro buy this game so we could play together play with your friends. It's play with your schoolmates who also have the game weird We want to There'd be a host and you'd join the host and because you don't you don't have to be too precise with this game And it does not too reaction based and you know, it's not super competitive. What is in some circles? I know that the there's like a Star Wars competitive scene is pretty you're pretty. It's pretty But they are Bloodthirst you know one guy got killed in me of And really yeah in Rio de Janeiro. Yeah, that's right. You got a shot after the game Yeah, and don't forget about the one in um in um, uh Tijuana That's pretty nice. What happened to him? Oh, it's it's too grisly to to recount. I I can't You know, it's too grisly Bunch of midgets fighting a bear fighting a bear. Yeah, that's uh, that's real gnarly right there Wait, is it grisly or gnarly or both? Well, sorry, no gnarly. It'd be gnarly not gnarly It'd be it'd be it'd be molly. That's for sure Nice It would be um, okay. What are y'alls potential 10 out of 10 contenders unofficially I'm assuming this relates to which which people do we think from which movies would dominate or unless they're talking about Oh Like the rating for movies. Yeah, what what might be a 10 out of 10 seven problem ryan Yeah, I'd say that's a contender I would obviously put the father up there. Um, I think that's totally fine. Yeah, I think that's a fair one Uh, 12 angry men 12 angry men is definitely, yeah But for the wrong, you have the opposite reasons It's it's one of those it benefits from being super alec oracle and Being like a vision or you know a dream sequence Or you know, how can you even say what's wrong with it? I feel like lord of the rings is pretty pretty strong contender I don't know if I I feel like that's never gonna be able to be a 10 out of 10 Um, uh, just because there's too much I guess it's the problem of like if it was almost unfair because it's fantasy There's so much that I have to account for so big It might be unfair, but when you consider that that was their choice one of the best scorers in its You know category if you will um In this material and scale and lit the captain characters and it's so large scale When you look for perfect movies a lot of the times you want to go for the small stuff the fathers and things like that Um Where there's you don't have to worry about that sort of thing. It's a lot more There's a lot less that you could get wrong in a sense. Um So Yeah, uh Batman robin shank probably sure shank would be a good one for 10 out of 10 actually, yeah Um What about like games uh video games of the 10 out of tetris What if I know it's not a video game, but chess probably um Chess is 10 out of 10 as far as I'm could chess tetris. These are like I'm not gonna even I'm not gonna Um, my problem with pac-man is I don't think that it has the expense like the the depth is you as a That sort of blows out that the other games have Like tetris is pretty cool, but it's a little too simple Oh wait, so you're saying Which was the complex one comparatively there? I think that tetris is comparatively complex Um Compared to pac-man. Yeah in the sense that it's like tetris as a very simple base But the more that you expand it up Um And like other other modifiers that you add to it like multiplayer and things like that Well, I'm assuming you're aware of pac-man's current state, right? Pac-man 99 They're doing all kinds of crazy things with pac-man now Um, I played pac-man It might just be that I feel like um tetris has There's something about tetris, man I don't know what it is I kind of think it's like almost perfect. Um, well, I did it is about as close to perfect as a video game can get On why can't you get that? Um, I don't know why I can't I guess it's I guess it's the problem of like what does it mean to be 10 out of 10? Is it as a matter of like well, it has no flaws. It's like well, yeah, but it's like so fucking simple That i'm not even sure what that would mean for it to have a flaw, you know It's because um like ableist maybe has Maybe it has some kind of like if you play it for long enough, you'll spot some glitches. I don't know May um, yeah, maybe Like uh, I think tetris is kind of an example of this like base game that is um So sound Um Yeah, I think pang pang is a perfect game in the sense, you know if it's mechanics and Mechanically, it is perfect. Yeah, that's kind of the thing um, but you know, you got to be Super simple because the more more more complex you get, you know, like I would I would rather have a flawed very expansive and Mechanically rich narrative game Then, you know play pang forever. So yeah, yeah, we would I guess that's a different One of this was like sci-fi and fantasy. It's like, oh, I want to put time travel in like four You've just cranked that multiplier. Also, they can resurrect in my universe There are mutants with superpowers like oh my god, you're really just You're throwing everything in huh? It'll be super interesting, but good luck trying to keep track of all of that Which by the way, that's exactly where the mcu is right now Oh minecraft we talked about this the other day minecraft like 10 out of 10 pretty much, yeah I think portal might be another example of like a Portal would be like a 10 out of 10 that is more meaningful No, minecraft would be in the more meaningful camp as well. I think um In the sense of it's like it's mechanically deeper than um, well, no portal is another example of simple on the surface like infinite possibilities I think it's just the idea of high skill floor versus and uh low skill floor high skill ceiling is a pretty good Determiner, I think there are a few bugs in portal. Um, yeah, I guess that's the issue wonder if Even fair to consider I guess it would have to be because something like we wouldn't be ignoring the bugs in fucking fallout 76 or cyberpunk Yeah, exactly What about 10 out of 10 writing um portal 2 I mean all the films we mentioned as potential 10 out of 10s are pretty much qualified for that Oh, yeah, if it was films, but if we're talking about in games Then like right now. Oh, I would uh contend over for me would be soma Um This is this is a couple. It's it's just a matter of me having to remember it honestly Um, I feel like portal 2 is a good one. Oh, yeah a famous fucking shot um Ah Gets tougher with video games when i'm right shadow legends, maybe Yeah, I mean right shadow legends is after one of the most ambitious rpgs of all time Voted like the greatest game mobile game industry for like many people Most played millions are joining every second and it's rated Hey, look now. They even got like a set where they do merchant capture for their cut scenes. It's like, oh Wow merchant capture. It's not like they had that shit fucking vice city But I like the idea that whatever they introduce something that's noble for video games. It's a huge celebration It's like now we have mechanics. You're like, whoa How yeah, you think james Cameron here is that he's like wait motion capture. What the fuck? Oh my god, what two didn't why didn't no one tell me about this Hey a doom is probably fair. I I don't know If I would rate it for sure that that well, but I mean I I remember playing the thing in the original doom was fucking great What are the um, I I I definitely wouldn't call it like are we talking about 10 out of 10s? Yeah, or like potential. Oh, I don't think the doom would probably be a 10 out of 10 I I feel like especially in terms of AI and pathing there might be issues. Um I really like hello combat evolves, but like it almost feels um, like I can't say that it's a 10 because like the fucking library You know, like there's just parts of it that are just not that great. Um, even though it's got a really cool core base um Deus Ex might be an interesting one for like 10 out of 10 writing I don't know if it would be though. It's it's just super interesting more so than like, I don't know Look at it the Todd Todd sitting out there This won't be like I always liked the little creative flourishes and like yeah And in the Lego movie same the same deal I mean, I have hope that the skywalkers are a Lego game would surprise me like Now off to show me that trailer I'm fucking annoyed. They released this trailer and Like they hyped me up for this long. It's like I want the game now. Don't release the trailer yet. It gets me all ready Oh, I'll be ready until it's ready um Rich outlet is the obvious 10 out of 10. Yeah, yeah, of course Right shadow legends, man I remember I think I think it was on a the stream I did yesterday where I think somebody said well I mean it's it's got a meme status now. So it's like everybody knows it sucks. So what's the problem with doing the ads? um To which why we did thought is the fact that the ads are still working like they're worth it The ads are still worth it. That means something The way we can't just ignore Yeah, if the ads didn't work, they wouldn't pay for the ads. Yeah, of course Yeah, I mean, maybe they just are wasted. Maybe they think that the ads are working even though they aren't actually and they're just I gotta imagine they are, you know, I feel like uh, I feel like They would have a grasp on that because that's essentially Like they're just casting wide-ass nets and I seriously don't they'd be doing it for this much for this long If it wasn't working and Hang them back if you know what I mean Well, and as all the ads tell us it's like one of the fastest growing games in the app store I genuinely feel those though if me bringing in rags signed an agreement with raid shadow legends And we couldn't disparage them and we would promote them and we were to do this Very passionately right now promote the shit out of raid shadow legends provide a link and say that seriously You do get a bunch of bonuses if you use our link on it People are gonna do it me if I've audience. Yep, somebody would Especially if I say the key part me rags and bring you play this every day and you can join our clan if you join now There'd be some poor fucker who would yeah who would go for that One of the biggest parts for why we don't is that it's the whole point is you trust us for a lot of stuff That's what that's what the ad is paying for. It's not paying for The fact that it's getting word out there. It's paying for I like this Cause then you'll be like, oh, well, I like his the things that he likes So maybe I'll like it. That's that's what's being exchanged here. And that's fine Um, as long as you know, we're talking about like decent products But let's rate shadow legends. It's a mobile game. The business model is microtransactions I would say it's the it's the meme representative at this point that fucking game Mm-hmm We get out when we catch all of our many wide nets if if only 0.5 of people even tried the game that's a person every 200 views right So Yeah, and then the chance of getting one of those people hooked on it for whatever reason and then that's just cash that keeps rolling in Yep How a brick You seriously mean to tell me you think it's bad. All right, look I don't think rate shadow legends is very good. I'll say that I won't go any further Wait, there's somebody unironically asking whether I'd be not they didn't use any emotes, but that's one of those statements where I couldn't possibly interpret it as serious Yeah This would a god chat you're in text. You've got to use emotes You gotta use what's its face. Yeah, you know the inflection that that's meant to be read in we don't It's just text to us Seriously not opening fast enough There we are Um, I forgot to add this a ranger from each age of man versus a witcher There are One v one fights with a witcher and a ranger not group v1 Also saying from each age of man in reference to um, I'm assuming you're talking about Lord of the Rings not like our ages um The thing is i'm not familiar enough with Lord of the Rings people to tell you what a man from the second age Or the third age can do against someone from witcher the series Us i'm afraid i am illiquid just to do such things Don't really know myself. Yeah You know more about it. I'd uh Give it a shot I'm afraid I don't Not our area of expertise You like the movies. We just don't make it in the floor But that's fine that I missed a mini kit because we've got to do this level again anyway Oh wait, that is the reason I have to do this many fucking level again. I completely forgot how my ignomium Oh No, well, we we already knew it. It was okay. That's fine Close to completion and that that is evidence that my brain is a bit melty. We're probably gonna have to Give this the old wrap up soon How how much we've got getting pretty tired If we can do another four that'll round out today's super chat as well as the chunk we've done from Okay, yeah, that's um, I'm totally fine for that. Uh, who is the better character? Alice ray or batwoman When you say batwoman You'd be more specific which one two distinct batwomans now Because it's it's kate and she's like the best character there ever was Um, it's ryan The best character out of let's let's include them both. So who's the best character out of alice ray ryan and kate Um Fuck probably the best out of being if we're being Alice ray ryan again Who's the worst? No, the best. Oh, do you think alice is the worst or um, we're not talking about just you find them insufferable Well, what are we talking about? Yeah, alice is the worst. Um, but yeah in terms of best so between kate ryan and alice I feel I think kate is the best um, she might be yeah But hmm, I'm not sure because alice is definitely the worst in terms of just murders by her own hand But again, what I'm talking about Because morally, yeah, then then alice is the worst, but But if we're judging it, I do think well, what's weird so Maybe it says something about the show that when comparing our two batwomen To alice I'm thinking like oh when we're talking about best and worst you mean like morally, which one's the worst of the three Speaks really great for the show batwomen. Of course Or do you think in terms because in terms of fighting you can't even say because it's all plot dependent What would just what do they want to happen? I think we mean character I think the question is about characterization Who is the best written in old fashion? How consistent are they with how they've been written? It's probably is it might be alice in that case Wait for worst or best For best Are you saying probably the recent development? ah I feel as if it's I think kate might still win Um, I guess the problem is like kate constantly like vlog whereas like alice is just a bad person But the thing is this is the thing I hate ryan, but not because she's inconsistent. I think she's just a horrible person Well, do we think she's consistent though? She wanted to get revenge on alice for all of that And then she just let her go for no reason. I can't remember why she let her go anymore Was there a reason because I don't remember there being sure that they must have well Yeah, well, no, there it could have literally just been well even the one in that premiered today At the very end they let the bad guys get away because they just didn't go after them When they rounded the corner they left the scene and so they're gone Yeah, even though they could have just went and shot them, but they just didn't Because it's time for the episode to be over Yeah, so even then that's the thing the show's so bad. It's kind of difficult to make some of these things That's the thing about ryan's batwoman. I don't actually believe she does this to help people She does this because she's got a she's having a power because she likes to hurt people. Yeah, she likes the power Yeah, it's for her. So in that sense, she's consistent That's kind of where it's going. This is really awful. Like someone's like you didn't chase those bad guys like a picture being like Yeah, I could have been hurt You know, just like okay Whereas like at least with kate. She kind of does want to help in her own retarded stupid way I don't know if it's the fact that she's just been replaced and that's why I feel it, but I do miss kate Oh, I held. Yeah Wanted back Good lad. Oh, she's coming back. Well, not that I'm not the one I want, but you know No, that's yeah She's not the same It's cruel is what it is mm-hmm in which case The best character The one I'd like to see the most would be kate The one I think this most upstanding marley is ray The one that probably yeah is the most consistent. That's probably ray as well, isn't it? um I mean, I guess she's consistent that she has no character. Yeah pretty much All right, then good a jet. I use the force to stop bullets from cycling or maybe stop the mechanical parts of the gun moving or just force eject the mag I don't see any reason why not If you're good enough with the force to manipulate objects that accurately at a distance and you have a you have to have a familiarity with a Firearm to know what buttons to press and slides to slide then maybe what I find interesting is that it's got to be Mechanical elements as proven certainly by Mandalorian season two to the blasters Um, oh, yeah, like there that I can manipulate those Yeah, they have moving parts and things so There's absolutely stuff there to be You know tampered with undoubtedly so if Like if the if the jedi if he really knew his guns and knew his weapons, right and he Used the force to hold the firing pin in place You know or something like that It but it'll probably just be more simple if I'm gonna use the force to just Twist the gun out of your hand or turn the gun just enough to where it'll miss me You know because you know if someone's standing 10 feet away and they're aiming at you You don't really have to move the gun that much until it just misses you angle wise. Um Yes, you know, so if you're strong with the force then it'll just be simpler for you instead of trying to do something Simple but very very accurate Good thing about concentration heavy than to just force the gun away from them Think about Star Wars. There are some questions that they don't like they kind of avoid answering in terms of um you know could have the force sensitive person just like essentially, I don't know Rip a valve in your heart And just sort of kill you that way. It's like obviously Vader can strangle people But it's like we just kind of assume they can't really do that specific sort of stuff That was an interesting part of uh the Aragon Not the um the books um when Aragon was learning magic um He had to be taught that you're wasting a lot of energy And because you have to like draw energy from things around you to cast spells and do magic um So you don't want to waste energy because you could kill yourself doing that or just weaken yourself and become incapacitated So it's like why would you ever like try and throw a fireball at someone or It lifts a rock and throw it at them or boulder or something like that because that's a crazy waste of energy Just like close off a blood vein In their neck or something like that or Just like throw a pebble at them really quickly and it'll just go through them and kill them, you know Magic it's it's a it's a shame that the book started to suck But the um the magic system and that was like it's like a super super glass cannony Where a mage is insanely powerful, but without training you'll kill yourself Because if you accidentally Think the wrong thing when you're casting the spell then the spell that you cast it'll do what you were thinking So if you accidentally replace one thought with another But like like the he was taught to always Be very specific with you there was like magic words you'd use like a magic language and magic words So you he was stressed to say it out loud audibly so that there would be No chance for like confusion in what you were having the magic do Don't say it to yourself in your head where you could have an errant thought at the wrong time That makes you think a thing that makes the magic do something you didn't really want it to do Um and there's a lot of practice and concentration in the muscle memory Which I really liked it was an interesting way to make magic super strong But at the same time You know you get you know you're you're you're you're you could potentially be a super dangerous thing to yourself by accident if you You know cast a spell that's just beyond your power level or try to do something that just sucks up too much energy away from yourself Something like that, but Yeah, tangent over I suppose. Mm-hmm. Um, so yeah, I really sometimes wonder if it's just down to the um The writer slash creator of what are the limits of the force really are in terms of specificity Maybe it'll be down lots a lot of things. It's just up to the Whoever's doing that one thing Fuck continuity. Fuck You know trying to keep limits where they are. I just want to do this thing so That's what we're doing Uh e-fap. Can you recommend any good shows and high rags? Hello, I have a list of shows I would never recommend but that would be a long list So we'll go with the ones that would recommend um simpsons um Breaking bad South Park There's there's more it depends You'll see you're in any show we recommend it's going to come with a bunch of like Revises and Specifics in terms of how it works or where you should be engaged and how it might not appeal to you blah blah blah Of course, Buffy and Angel is one of those ones where it's like, right? Well, let me roll out my parchment and exactly how you should consume this I don't know what you should be aware of um You know similar stuff goes for like if I ever asked to recommend something like farscape. I'd be like, oh boy That's the Pretty goofy campy show but at the same time you could very much enjoy it if it's your kind of thing It's like recommending shows is tough. So it's a lot more time Than a movie of course. Yeah, and it depends on what you like as well You know something could be great, but it could be something that just doesn't appeal to you much Yeah, and you know, you might require a hook where some of the shows we recommend might not have Good enough hooks Be in with and in some ways I'd be like, hey check out game of thrones, but then I'd be like, well Up to a point, but then the problem is somebody would get to that and be like, well, I want to keep going. It's like, don't Yeah, and that's why it makes it hard to recommend the show at all um Community it's like, yeah, I mean This is the funny thing right you'll hear us praise it and then like you don't recommend it though And you're like, well, it's like it's well. Yeah, but I mean I don't know. Yeah, and it's like it's it's funny. You should probably like it. I think I think I'd recommend community to everybody I think that there's enough Schumer in it that it's um That all like the other aspects the office of us are probably I think I don't know how many people would hate that You know, I feel like pretty pretty well It's funny. I'm not really recommending these based off of how well written I think they are more so just whether or not they're up your alley person who is listening, you know Mm-hmm Can be complicated my recommendations for shows or not. I don't watch that many shows Of course, do you have Hill House and Bly Manor or shows that you get that, you know, we recommend to people um One of my personal favorites is Chernobyl. I really like that. No, it was really cool. Yeah And you can get through that in like an afternoon. So yeah, yeah, it's pretty short. There's like five episodes um, but it's really great. Um Some other things. I mean, that that's a decent enough starter for the moment Plus i'm getting tired and I have to Leave for my trip in the morning. So Well, that one ended with high rags No, hello, we got one more Rage Shadlands the most 10 out of 10 game ever Rage Shadlands, I'd say so You play a Shadlands game Shadlands or Shadlands Wouldn't it be cool if the game was you playing a Shad and you just kill all of the characters from Rage Shad of Legends? But it's like a good game. All right. Yeah, that'd be cool Rage Shadlands And yeah, oh no shaggins We're getting real far with lego original trilogy. I feel like one more stream that's of a six hour type We might just Complete it and then I don't know. I don't know what to do myself. What is life without lego, you know Without lego star wars. Yeah. Well, everyone wants me to go through just the fucking lego like I don't know. What do you even call it the lego discography? Why do you go through all of them? Lego gameography. Yeah So it's like lego and yana joed stacks. Do you it? I remember lego and yana joes not being as broad as the original trilogy one I remember that vaguely too, but I had a lot of fun with it Well, I think what happened was that they they had a lot of assets done when they did this because of the prequel trilogy stuff They could move a lot of things along but indiana jones was like a lot of new shit And so they couldn't make as much bonus shit because if you if you see on the screen I've got there's a big question mark door that you can make when you get 60 golden bricks I don't remember if they have stuff like that in the indiana jones one Yeah, I'm not I can't remember One time ago They all the lego games The complete saga's on pc. Yes, but the whole point is a dolphin games the idea There was an idea bring together a bunch of lego games I'm afraid gamecube only had a couple of them Um, well, yeah, that's about that. I guess we'll catch you guys the next time we catch you I think you said lego dalmatians on saturday 101 dalmatians on saturday um and uh, I guess Bioshock on friday if if not something else Well sunday, I don't even know anymore stuff will be happening That's a three and a half hour e-fat movies by the way folks. So strap in no, um, no mainline episodes Uh this week and then that means that we've lined right back up with the normal schedule You see we gave you too many in a row, but we're also trying to catch up with the superchats. We've not done it yet But we made a whole bunch of progress um So yeah, thank you all for watching and I suppose good night morning afternoon, whatever suits you We'll see you next time. Yeah. Thanks for coming. We'll see you later. Bye. Bye