 Hello everybody, if it's Wednesday, it's Warhammer and that must mean it's time for the first episode of Warhammer Weekly of 2020 that's right. We're here. It's New Year's Day. Happy New Year's everybody if you're in the part of the world where it's still New Year's Day Which is Not a whole lot of the world anymore, but that's okay Yeah, like it's really not It's it's fine. I mean it's New Year's Day here where I am so hence Sure in time zone, you know very important time zone Sure and for then the rest of the stuff west but everybody else I hope you had a great New Year's Day joining me as always Is my own Barbara Walters and this is 2020. What's up, Tom? Hello friends. You're the Barbara Walters to my Hugh Downs. That's how I'd like to think of it Is that how it is? Yeah, although Hugh Downs went to your school Did he really? Oh, yeah, obviously Because I don't pay attention to this stuff That's like I didn't go to your school and yet I know that yeah, I know it's true because it makes sense like you want to use Yeah, that's why that's named that. Yeah, that's weird Because he's like the most successful thing that ever came out of your school. Anyway, I mean, it's true. Right. It's true I'm working on changing that sure. Yeah, I can see it Tom. I can't wait. I can't wait We're gonna make some wild swinging predictions about 2020 to what we do best Yes, as in the grand tradition of our New Year's show or our show didn't we just do this? No, we talked. No, we did a couple of different things We didn't actually we did not actually do a whole 2020 prediction We saved those things for this we talked about the upcoming armies like Zinchen tail and Seraphon stuff like that. No, that's fair So this is time this is now the show we've been saving To strap on the tinfoil hats and get nuts You want to get nuts? Let's get nuts. That's what we're gonna do tonight. Okay, apparently so But of course first the standard stuff. We've got the news The news that is the show you do Tom Indeed we have a rumor engine. Let's start there. We do it's up on the screen right now So it's clearly a sword sheath. I don't think we're giving anything away there. Nope and This is a classic example of them. Just like straight up Screwing with people, right? I mean, that's what yeah Because what is the defining feature of this rumor engine that they shared What's the defining of the singular element if your eye were to key in on one thing that we're gonna make you take a wild swing At what this is what would drive the internet? You know crazy a Gog what would it be the Bretonian chalice it would be that chalice Tom That's what it would be and of course then everybody being so excited For the return of a of a long dead and buried empire, okay? Yeah No, you know what it is, right? It's oh no, we've already had that shoot What I'm saying is that it's the beast grave Like a flesh eater court battalion. Oh sure. Yeah, we already had a war band, but we already have that shoot I don't know a 40k blood angels thing they use the the cup as well. I would do that. Well, there you go You know, I mean like that is a gemstone like and they don't normally do a lot of gemstones like that 40k do they I mean Eldar do but no it is unusual for it's that that's not me That's not totally true like the drop of blood is also a pretty common signifier for them But I mean look is it Bretonians I would highly doubt it, but you know look I have been surprised before So maybe we'll have to talk about this in our predict a thing swing Maybe we'll have to ring a ding ding and predict a thing that that a reimagined Nightly order has sprung up out of nowhere and is sallying forth into the mortal realms But I would say it's probably blood angels. I Don't know like the lines on the the lines on the The sheath like on the hill like not on the hill but on the tip the tip guard That I mean that's very elven-esque like I've painted a lot of high elven it is like Scabards, and they do a lot of that So, I mean, I don't know that that means anything. All right, well, I'm gonna I'm gonna take this in I'm gonna take this in because I agree with you the gem and the tip of the sword are very elvish, right? Yeah, so what do we do there how do it the other somebody said in the comments blood Knights Which is also could be an interesting one, right? Yeah, the blood Knights could also make sense like they could be long has has death wanted many death players have wanted the Soul light like expansion, right? But in you know in the words of hella like Bretonia is dead, you know bury it like it's like let it be let it go people Let it go. It's not coming back Okay, so I'm gonna I'm gonna go out on a limb. I think I know what it is All right What do you think it is? I'm ready. I'm ready blow me away Tom shock me. I Think it is the new A glimpse of the news Sylvan, I don't say Sylvan F, but the new Like where the wild things are army from Beast Grave Okay You know like the fawn people and all that. Yeah, the kernafi. Yes, you know the kernafi And I think that what what we're getting is an echo of the Who are all very wild and and punk rock They are getting this like super You know elvish-looking sword. What's up with that? because of the Because in the Lord like this is a deep cut but the lady of the lake and all that like the association between that and I As being the elven deity like do you remember that whole like Araloth You know people that were lost into the fey Like the new realm thing. Okay, sure I'm gonna call it that there's gonna be a tie between the kernafi and these these once lost Wonderer people. Okay. All right. And by the way, I know blood angels just got like their book and their stuff That doesn't mean that this isn't like a character blood angel or something like that Yeah, I you know fine But like they have proven frequently that they'll sometimes just release character models for various reasons. Yeah special releases and stuff like that There's no reason they couldn't just randomly do a special character, but who knows At any rate, I'm going to integrate it into my predictions. All right. I'm ready Yes, Araloth and lilias children, that's what cinderfall said, correct. Yes, that's what you're referencing Yeah, I am and I'm just going to point very quickly I'm ready because I because obviously this came to me on the fly. So I thought hey, let's test my theory Right. Okay. So this is the kernafi. Yes Rotate just a little bit. Can you see his back? The scabbard No, the scabbard right here. Yeah, okay I see how it has a little metal thing with the gem on the bottom. You're talking about yes But the wrap looks a heck of a lot different, but all right It does it does but just saying like aesthetically like there are definitely some shared elements there sure So maybe this was like the test run Yeah, okay Cool. Yeah, maybe. All right. That's my call. All right Strong enough. I mean the kernafi seemed ripe for a whole faction, right? Yeah, I've talked about that before That actually was showing up in my predictions So There you go Could be good call. All right. I don't know what the heck maybe maybe maybe the cup is there because yes They have that kind of that that that sort of thing and they'll and like it like it'll just be some very minor imagery Yeah, I don't know maybe or maybe not right on what else we got in news So let's talk about The 8th or war Yeah, well we learned last week. It's happening and now it's free releasing this week and It's coming out on the 11th. It is that is hot hot hot drops. We're getting that fast Can I call the fact that on not on Christmas Day, but on the week before Christmas? I called that we could be getting it as soon as January 11th, and that's the exact day that it's dropping on Well, there you go. How nice But yeah, I'm excited. I I have a couple boxes coming. I'm not gonna lie The We have Yeah, I'm just like I said last week. I'm really excited about everything in this box. Sure like it's Like I wanted to start a zinchi Like Zangor army and now between this and what I'd already had of zinch stuff Like I actually have like a fairly strong Zangor army. Sure. Yeah, yeah We got the faction focus for KO on Monday, you know as well as a couple of the little minor, you know releases and such of news and You know, I mean I will say looking pretty good so far. I like everything. I'm seeing Yeah, I mean we've had some rumors that dropped of the changes like and a lot of them are not surprising Sure, right because like we knew that they're gonna limit like weapon profiles an arc not to one That's been forever. If that surprises you you literally haven't been paying attention. Yes Yeah, like a year and a half a year and a half like that that that writing was on the wall The fact that they're doing with the chemist buff that doesn't surprise me at all, right? It was always just spammy crap. Yep. It was all spammy stuff And it like and it caused the pricing of all units to be like exorbitant because it always had to take into account Like what they do when you double their attacks, right, you know, I'm like interneters But yeah, we got some garrisoning and ships Yeah, we got the ships can fly high so they can just pull themselves out of combat and then redeploy basically the ships can teleport themselves Automatically every turn as long as they turn. I should say as long as they're at seven wounds or less taken In the movement phase. Yes. Yes, they're fly high ability relies on them having Seven wounds are less taken in the movement phase. Yes. So you can repair them first and then scoot them out of there Absolutely. Yeah, like if you had a bunch of Endron rigor MSU inside a ship sure sure sure and I'm I am super excited that you know my plans. I want the ironclads to just be amazing I want to buy two ironclads. I don't care if they're like, I don't care if they're 500 550 points good as long as they pack the guns for that then like My whirlwinds edge tempest I army is just gonna be like poppin I'm ready to go. I'm eight figs and I like, you know, 10 12 figs. I got this whole army on lock That's the kind of army I like Yeah, it'll be interesting because like the fly high rule in the article preview article says that all the vessels have this rule Like added to their war scrolls and your question is it on the war scroll or is it right? Yeah, right like do I get to fly high in? Tempest I that's not right Right. Well, I can go twice as high take a look It's in a book. It's called Coradron overlords indeed Um The yeah, I don't know like I I guess that we heard some nerfs about like we heard other nerfs about the Arcana company That was really interesting that dropped this week About like yes, not only are they limiting to like one one weapon But also potentially like the rend is going down the range is going down on them but their cost may be going down and Their save may be going getting better And if that were to happen like suddenly you have a unit that like I'm very interested in. Oh, sure If they're cheap have short range shooting Like imagine 20 of those in a like for like 200 and 220 points Sure, add that to a to an ironclad which by the way would count as battle line assuming their basic battle line doesn't change like even in even in Tempest I sure like they could teleport around and like if you did no special weapons You're gonna have 43 pistol shots sure that's well inches coming out. I think yeah, yeah, like that's that's not the ship That's yeah on board the dudes on board like which we might see a rewrite of the Garrison Rules itself for this like I don't know. I mean date those at the same time Absolutely. Yeah, so there's just a lot of really there's a lot of questions As Vince as you excitedly pointed out when the article drop you sent me a message and you're like your army is official Yeah, dude your army is officially a thing you spent the past Two and a half years ish something like that however long it's been pretending to play a Faction that is now a thing. Yeah where it was like all fire slayers and regular dwarves integrated with KO You bought all these kits. You've been doing all this kit bashing you you were play You played effectively some version of this last year at a con. It was slightly off Yeah, the last two years because you had you had your KO and your fire slayers and your regular Dwarden all together in in what is now Barrick thraying or whatever it's called, right? Probably there's some kind of ratio restriction, but still I'm sure like it. Yeah, they'll be like a four-to-one ratio restriction That's not something. Yeah. Yeah, like I'm super stoked like I I couldn't be happier, right? Yeah Yeah, your weird kit bashed fever dream became official rules. Yeah, that's a pretty good score Like yeah, yeah, yeah, and it's interesting because like when I originally did this as like my pirate army That's like a callback to long-drong slayers. It was actually the bar our Barack Thringy Like symbol if you guys are familiar with it. I'm gonna pull it up because it's super awesome It's what kind of inspired me to do my project At least one fire slayer on the other right, right? Yeah, like so it's like it was like a big piece of why I was doing what I was doing and It's just it like I just did it as my thing and I'm like I'm gonna do this and I did And then now like they were actually like no, you can do that now. Yeah, and that's really exciting Although I will say this this this presents a really interesting situation See the skyfarers there Because with this one rule that they've released like this was on their Facebook page They raise a super interesting question. I'm ready So are the fire players going to become skyfarers when they're in right, right? Right like fire slayers are in dispossesional. Do they gain the skyfarers keyword? I expected they would get get like the KO keyword and I expected that they would get the Like the Barack Thringy keyword I did not expect they would get the skyfarers because if they get the skyfarers They can go in boats. Yeah, sure. Sure. Sure. They could climb in boats. Yeah Well, and not only that but they will also do this pile in before they tie thing that's on the screen right here Right. Yeah, and they would pile in so like man, that's super interesting with like hearthguard berserkers or like Putting 20 volkites in a ship. Sure. Sure Yeah, that are now with cover on like a two-up save Unbuffed and make one to hit when do the iron draws get to get in your boats? Can we get this? Word I that's a great question. I mean because like it's in our lore, right? Yeah, that's a thing. That's a thing But no, it's like I I am super stoked by this book I think that it like it's just an amazing like to me like it's just an amazing gift of So far of what I've seen of like what these things should have been from the beginning. Yeah, absolutely The I Think it's gonna be really interesting The only reason we're not talking about zinch by the way is because they haven't they haven't done any zinch focuses yet So like we don't know anything about if they're doing anything with zinch So the hence all the KO discussion plus I think Tom and I are both more interested at this moment in KO Then then in zinch like zinch is fine. It'll be super magic We'll talk about it because again it factors into my 2020 predictions, right? Like zinch is playable now, right? Sure, like it's not like it's not perfect. It needs updated rules, but it's playable. It's play Like KO is really in a tough spot right now And so this is I would argue this is really bringing them back in a strong way in a way that they haven't been available It's also the refresh of like one of the most unique armies of Age of Sigmar, right? Yeah, this is a this is truly a defining army of AOS It's right and then and if you can throw fire slayers in there, which is another very AOS the army It's just super fascinating. And by the way, let me just say the other big question I have is what who their allies are Like and do they have cities of Sigmar as their allies? Sure one has to imagine Probably because if they do there's a very real world where Where I have like fire slayers as my one and four And then as allies one and four. I also have Um dispossessed. Yeah, sure sure Like very real possibility for me. So it's gonna be exciting. I mean man will read book this weekend Assuming I know I know which actually leads to our next piece of news because man who reads book Will probably not be the biggest story of saturday or whenever whenever the the thing whenever the normal NDA lifts. I think it's on saturday basically when they're allowed It's true because it's the it's the uh, the 2020 reveals that's right Yep, they're doing the new year open day At warhammer world and there will be a reveal show Uh, who knows how much AOS we're gonna get Because it's not it's not AOS focused, right? It's it's everything. Officially it's not been Almost any AOS. Yeah, so we'll see But like I have to wonder if either a We get our our serif on spoiler, right? That's the other thing we know is coming Or B. Well, I mean A lot of stuff has been discontinued for for serif on by the way for those that did not know I know which is gonna feed into my I We'll get there. It's all part of the predictions or whether they feed into the the the heish heish Something giant, right? Sure. Um, like in other words, are they going to give us a future thing? Or are they going to give us just this thing we kind of already knew? We have to wait till LBO because that's a very real possibility too. Sure Yep all right, uh Yes, Dave, we did discuss the rumor engine and I have some more thoughts about it Tom's bet is it's part of the karnathi expansion, which isn't crazy Uh, not at all Your dog likes a squeaky toy, doesn't he? I know She is super excited about that christmas gift. I'm sure and I and I am not I understand She she's wagging her tail at me, of course. Yes. All right, so Tom, uh, one more quick news item. I want to touch on I mentioned last week during our christmas show Save RC member of our community red wizard He had his First child on christmas day He did jump into the chat and say that and I've talked to him since Baby is healthy mom's doing okay. So they're back at home now But uh, their dog needs some significant medical attention and he's selling his He's not asking for just random donations. He is selling off stuff for Uh, like a lot of new and box great kits. He's pushing him out at a decent price It's certainly a good deal like you can get plenty of kits. He's selling them at a really nice price if you're looking for Uh city stuff speaking of dwarves. He's got a bunch of dwarf stuff, by the way Like especially dispossessed stuff. Well, this is a bunch of it's like new and box stuff That is a way to invest in the future my friends. That's right So look if you're looking if you've got some hot christmas money You want for you you didn't get the models you wanted for christmas You want to buy some models at a cheap price that are new and box and contribute to a good cause Come on now. Come on now any better than that. Absolutely. Uh, the link will be uh in the description Down below and so click on that go check it out. See if there's anything you want He also has a bunch of slanesh stuff. I was thinking about it But like I've got to stop myself at some point. I understand. I know excess But like realistically I'm good. I I still have to get through all this slave stuff. We'll talk about that in a moment um But uh, but yeah, like that's it's always it is it is funny that the kids born on on christmas day That's always rough. Then you get but I mean all your birthday presents your christmas presents same day. That's uh, oof rough one Uh, okay feel bad for the other kids in the family. There's only one right now. This is their first child I understand that but i'm just saying in general when that happens because then like forever That kid gets more on christmas than everyone else. Sure sure. I mean as would be expected. Yes as they should sure Uh at any rate so like I said link will be in the description help the red wizard out get yourself some awesome stuff Uh, let's uh, we are a strong community buy yourself some nice stuff and help somebody out all the same time And red i'm i'm i'm buckling on he does have a couple gorgons and i'll tell you right now i'm buckling I've been looking at it like if he still has it it's gonna it's gonna get to me eventually You know, I can't help myself with that gorgon model tom. I can't do it. I can't do it I got too many of them. It's like the uh, the kitty cat. It's catnip to me my friend. I love that gorgon model Yeah, it's literally like your worst things is it is. I just I it's a big awesome Model with like lots of uh Lots of muscle And yep, it's good. All right. So any other news? I think that's all the news Obviously, it's a slow week because this is the week in between christmas and new year's which no, you know, none of them were in the office So, yeah, no, I think that's it. I think that's uh Um, yeah, all right cool. Let's talk about pick of the week man. What do you got? Um, I'm gonna I'm actually gonna spruke Some of you, uh, know him. Uh, he uh, is all over twitter anthony pol Castro. Um anthony is doing a Uh, go fund me right now Oh, hold on pause. Yes. Thank you. Thank you, dan That is uh that dan in the comments mentioned in news. Oh, yeah I can't believe I forgot about the nova open hotel is live. So if you're going to nova Uh, you need to you need to go book your hotel like now So go do that. Uh the events and all of that isn't live. I shouldn't say even the events like the um Like the tickets and all that stuff for the event That's what I'm trying to say is in march march first I believe is the date all that goes live, but the hotel is live as of today So you should go and do that so you can get the lower rate at either that hotel or the Two that are literally right next door that you can walk to so there you go Uh, so thank you very much, dan. I appreciate that. I I was remiss on my on my event information And yes, I will be back at nova and I was just confirming all of my classes that I'm teaching with them We've got a big uh, I've got a big schedule this year. So if you want to come to a class We're going to do a lot of fun stuff this year at nova. So it's going to be great All right now tom back to your thing. You were spruaking. I'm sorry. Yeah Yeah, uh, so anthony bocaster is running a go fund me right now anthony is the one that got me into 3d printing anthony is a wonderful wonderful man um, he has three printers Um, and he is losing lots of money right now um Because the way he chooses to use those printers is basically he prints things for free for events um to help fill tables And right now he is going to be like he is helping both nova and mash con expand their like event table like terrain ratio stuff And like he's done the math and his three printers cannot physically print enough terrain for what is needed for those two events Um, and so he is raising money for a fourth printer Um, and if you know anything about anthony, uh, like he's he's amazing Uh, he and he's like he has single-handedly grew Like the terrain at an ash con to like 60 tables of beautifully Painted terrain because david does all the painting for him or a lot of it at least uh, and so just um I would encourage you all to if you have a couple extra bucks to to throw at it Obviously, uh rc needs to uh needs care and I want to encourage you guys to do that And if you have a couple more bucks throw it at the printer for uh for For anthony because anthony's goal is not only expand for these two events, but also to provide basically a service For events to help them fill out their terrain their tables. Yep. I like it. I like it. Nice Nice Uh, okay, cool So I want to shout out our good friend, uh, paul at radio free hammer hall And paul did a nice video on retreating today That I think is first of all very useful. So that's the video i'm going to shout out specifically But what I really want to say about paul is I believe paul right now is like Five or six subs from a thousand and youtube really cares about exact numbers Uh, like if you hit this exact number then things open up on your channel And so Like there's got to be six people who are interested in what paul is doing in the chat right now Or who are watching this in the future who haven't subbed to paul So I will link to the retreat video if you like what he's doing there. Give the man a sub. Let's get him over that thousand mark and uh and encourage him to keep making videos because I always like it when he makes videos and it's nice And I like all our content creators to keep making videos because darn it folks I gotta have something on while I paint so start making stuff. So there you go I'll link to the retreating video. It's a really good point He goes through like the different benefits pitfalls how to sort of slingshot around with retreats How you think about flying how you you know all sorts of good stuff So nice little 15 minute video on retreating, which I do agree is like Probably the most important single tactic That not enough people use often enough right right right like Oftentimes when you get in bad like in just in a lot of situations So the the right answer is actually retreating right And most people like want to grind out fights and most of the time that's actually not the best answer Yeah, my first question I asked myself at the start of every turn every turn is Is Which of these units need to retreat? Right. That's like my start of hero phase thing. I'm thinking about is What should I retreat at what combat should I retreat out of the answer might be zero, but the answer is often more Right. Yeah, so I agree. It's a good video that talks about it. So there you go And I see a couple people already subbed in the comments. You're all my heroes. You all rule Okay You this is it's it's such a fantastic community. You guys are great so, uh Those are the picks they'll be linked down below Uh, it is radio free hammer hall davis Uh, that's who I was talking about and I'll I'll link his video in the description that I that I was talking about specifically Uh, namely a good video on retreating Uh, it's a guy paul who's a good guy in the community. All right, so Uh Tom what's uh, what's on your hobby table, buddy? Let's do some hobby time man. What are you working on? What you working on buddy You're paying something. You seem very focused Hearthguard berserkers. Look at all that. Oh my god. Do you have like different color mohawks? Like did you alternate their mohawks? I did like I did. I love that I went with the striped mohawk for my hearth guard so that like visually on the table you can tell them about Yeah, what's a hearth guard and what's a uh, what's a what's a vulcite? That's so nice And then I love it for my other ones. I'm gonna like for my oryx I'll have different like Yeah, like so visually like there will be distinctives between my different units the only thing of a fire slayer you can see Realistically when you're looking at it on the table from above, especially when they're in units is the mohawk, right? It's such a dominating feature of that model So the fact that you that you did the stripeys on that particular unit. I love it. That's great, man. Good thinking Because every time I fought fire slayers, I'm like, okay, which ones are these which ones are these over here? because Because it's like impossible to tell so all right cool. I heard your complaints Vince And uh, and I'm working I'm working in my own scheme to resolve those Well, I appreciate it my friend uh for myself I uh, I finished up that chaos lord I finally found my sample scheme that I liked Uh, it's in this like crimson plate color that I know I love it. It looks like wine Yeah, well that was the goal I wanted it to be sort of a red wine color That had a little bit of purple little, you know, it was like crimson ish, right? So I could run it as slanesh sometimes So I could run it as corn sometimes and I could run it as undivided sometimes right because it wasn't any of those specifically And I like it would be a fun way to so I wanted something that's neutral ish I love that like corn is one of those armies where like I'd love to have a corn army But I don't really want just a corn army, right? And so like hearing the way you did that I'm just like Could do something like that. Yeah, it's like I thought about of chaos right the fact that when you buy slaves to darkness You're getting five armies theoretically right right right like I thought about doing like the skull reverse um Scheme which is like the black armor with like the gold goldie brass trim Like that's a legitimate corn scheme And like it's neutral enough. Maybe that it would go with a lot of other chaos armies. I don't know. I'm thinking about it. Yeah, sure Uh rammer getting uh, you said I I did advertise it and I know That um travested who helped me put it together, but it's my first year there So my guess is we probably could have worked some different things out as far as advertising goes But I'm not sure we tried to get the word out I think we scheduled it a bit, you know like late. So I am sorry if you missed it uh, but you know It should be uh, it's it's I'm I'm super excited and like basically three weeks to be coming down to Australia It's crazy to say that but uh on the longest flight That uh that the airline I fly on offers. It is literally their longest flight in the world I'm taking to get to Australia. So it's like a 17 and a half hour flight It should be fun I look forward to going insane. So um The uh So yeah, so here's one of my cast warriors. I finished up the lord He's very dark right now. You're not gonna see him because he looks all crazy dark But there's more color there. He's in the red gets has all these deep Colors before I like before I then go back and brighten up and brighten it up And I got out to start collecting boxes worth of chaos warriors So 20 cast warriors Got them all together And I love these guys. Oh my god, tom these new cast warriors are so amazing Are they nice like I haven't seen them yet. So yeah The guys who are doing like the forward push with like their shields forward Yeah, where they're like ramming in or like their shield way out The dudes with the shields on their back like slung over their back um It's so wonderful um Like I am beyond excited don't come with any standard bears or musicians. Do they they don't but I just converted the standard bears And like musicians. I'll just hang something off their belt or mark them and say that they're they're callers Sure, it's a musician If if the ogres can have a musician that's just literally some guy yelling Whatever it's fine. I mean, it's legitimate. Sure um so, uh That's gonna be so I'm I'm just working my way through these guys I should have them done by the weekend. So then I'll have the 20 of them done You know what I do love about the high points cost of slaves to darkness Man, does it feel like you're getting stuff done. I was like 20 of these dudes That's 400 points in the just bam in the bag. Look at that Just knocking out points outlandish. Yeah, it feels good. It feels good Uh, I don't know what I'm gonna do next. I got a bunch of stuff lined up So I just I've got way too many projects. So it's just gonna be gonna be going back and forth between Golden demon stuff and the slaves and whirlwinds edge So it's just it's gonna be all over the map the next until I go to Australia Then I won't be able to hobby for like a week I'm in such a tight spot because like I'm doing my like I've literally jumped armies like four times in the last six months Like it's like I'm hitting the like nothing's done fatigue Um, because I did my fire slayers for a while until I realized I wasn't gonna be able to make hit nash con and so I dropped that for my my night haunt And then ground out like half my night haunt army for havoc And then I was like, okay, you know, like I set my sights on a con and I'm like, okay I'm gonna do more night haunt. So I did some night haunt and I'm like, no I'm gonna do cities And so then I like crafted all the rest of my city's army my dwarf city's army And got about like halfway through and then realized like that's not gonna I'm not taking that Like you realize that about a month ago And so now I'm back to fire slayers Nice So I have like a bunch of like half finished projects of like blocks of 40 troops um and like I I really need to get that stuff done and then like on top of that the reality is is that k.o. Is dropping in two weeks um, and I may have to paint another 30 thunderers Well, do you know what's so wonderful about this tom? This is the perfect segue segue into our main topic our 2020 prediction Spectacular So tom I went back and listened to our 2019 prediction spectacular. Oh really? Yeah, I did. Yeah, and uh Like I said, not enough people had new content hit everybody because it's new year's day So I had some time on my hands and uh, so I was listening to it and first of all we had a lot of stuff wrong Your Samoa ogres that didn't happen obviously But we did have some stuff right one of the things I said was I don't think cities would get a book But I thought k.o. Would get their refresh Slightly reverse there But didn't go go on didn't age well, but here's the funny thing one of the closing points I made Okay, yeah was Tom if fire slayers get a new book because we both said that fire slayers are going to get new book back in december of Last year of 2018 Which we were correct, right? We said if fire slayers get a new book and this happens and this happens tom and you'll have like Too many armies to choose from and you'll have decision paralysis And if you were like, I know I don't know what I'd do with myself And that was a very true prediction nailed it on that one because it was find yourself in this it locked in this hobby paralysis You're embarrassed of riches It is because the reality is this like I'm trying to think about acon, right And like I other events and stuff like that like I'm thinking about them But like acon is the one the one where I'm kind of like locked in on because it's are the big You know like the biggest event in the u.s for this for the single for the like for championship gt stuff and I I have like a full fire slayer army and I have a full city's army And I have a full knight hawn army And I have a full slaves to darkness army And like I have competitive lists of all of those things that I could very very happily run with any one of them Yep, um, and it's really frustrating Really frustrating. It's yeah, we this is 2019 Like obviously this isn't the 2019 look back show, but this has been an amazing year It re releases and armies we all have to run like it does feel like an embarrassment of riches now So all right, let's get into it, man. Ring a ding ding Let's predict a thing. Here we go. Okay So 2020 predictions, let's start at the beginning zgko box coming at the end of this weekend Okay, we're not gonna we're not gonna predict rules and crap like that Here's what I want you to predict tom. Yep. You ready? Yep. Here's why we want to start here one Do are these two books? competitively good Okay Yes Two do they have a small One through five one being none five being major impact on the meta That's the question Okay Yeah, okay You can't think this long time. This is dead air people like talking Uh, yes They are they will both be competitive. Okay And they will have a major impact on the meta both of them Four five, what are you rating it on a one through five scale? Uh, I think that Four for zinge And I think five for ko And not only because ko is ko. I think it's five because then it will also impact tempest silas Okay, um, and I think in a pretty dramatic way in fact Also, we just want to shout out tabletop minions who's predicting fishmen in 2020 I agree. It's about time the idnet weren't fishmen enough. We didn't want wet elves We wanted fishmen. Let's bring in the octopus people bring in the crab people bring in tom's son Uh, you know all that sort of stuff like all those armies can come in Okay, so while he's while tom is dealing with his with his adorable son Uh, who looks like a mini version of him with the glasses on that's really funny. Uh Yes, you got away. Hello. He can't see me. I don't know who I'm waving at He'll see me in a second when he's watching it on the screen. Uh, so the uh, Here's my prediction. Okay. Here's how I'm gonna rate this ko Will not be perceived as good as zinge the initial prediction like sometimes we get these two book releases One is better than the other. Okay So I think zinge will come out the stronger one You think so I do Huh, interesting. Okay In the short term that will be the get that the the the That'll be the look at it. I think in the long term the ko book will actually be better Okay, I think that's probably true Like because I think the ko is just so impactful Like and I don't think that people want understand how it's going to be impactful until Gary Percival starts taking events with it. Sure Um, here's my yeah, no, I agree. Here's my uh, let's let's start with this I think what's interesting about ko and by the way, I think they're both going to be like four to fives on meta impact And here's why I agree. Okay I think let's say we get a serif on release As well not too long in the future. Okay, which is the next easy prediction Yes, we will have serif on and also i'm going to step up here. Serif on are getting new models They're going to be a gloomspite get style release. That is my prediction. Yeah, they Continue to bunch of stuff now. They don't always make new models and they discontinue cities is a reason for that And I'll talk about that a little while Yep, okay But I think that's why it saved till last I agree with your previous reasoning. You were one to bring that up Okay, yeah, like that. It's going to involve new models. Yeah, but let's take a look at what's been introduced in the meta here recently Okay, OBR ultra high defense, right? And and magic reliant like a lot of what they're doing is like they have a lot of wizards that they really like and really want to have on the table Yeah, sort of. I mean like, yeah, sure. I don't know like I think that they're Like I looked at uh, brendon's list and he's not really too heavy on magic. It's all it's all uh, you know, they're RDP farm or whatever. Sure at any rate heavy armor slaves of darkness heavy armor Seraphon will be shooting and heavy armor right KO shooting Yeah Zeench basically magic shooting Right, like that's what Zeench will bring to the table So all of a sudden we're going to get this influx into the meta that's really going to test it the story the past year and a half of Age of Sigmar has been ultra ramped up high offense Tendingly low defense armies running into each other and just blowing each other up, right? Yeah, a lot of people running around with like four pluses Yep The reason daughters have continued to be a force for two solid years is only because they're the high offense with the cheater defense and haggenar Right, right and and no one to pick off their heroes and no one to pick off their heroes That's right because the meta has remained in this like relatively low-ish defense Right, what beasts are one of the things about beasts is one of their strengths is that they actually have a lot of ways to Rend Right, they have a lot of like armor killing in their book and there's it's just worthless Because there aren't that many like elite forces who are relying on ultra high armor and a few models where beasts would overperform right Yep, so But now that's what you're seeing this influx of right And it's going to push the meta in these big ways by introducing three new things We don't have in large ways. We already saw and like it'll be interesting to see whether Like hollow heart alone was enough to do it and also they fixed it does zinch magic shooting And the shooting of ko and the potential shooting of whatever because you know Listen to this bridge because bridge wasn't changed right Yep So like if suddenly zinch can do that as well with bridge Sure Uh, so my prediction is you are going to see some big craterous meta impacts right off of these releases early in the year Because it is going to be pushing the meta into armies that it has not traditionally had to deal with every army that's been good Okay Over the past year and a half all your dominators were ultra high Armies that relied on simple defense tricks to win. Yeah, right. Yep fec Just slamming you into the ground before you can fight back So an ash just slamming you into the ground before you can fight back Right. Yep. Yep Like these were the big bad the big bad voodoo daddies of the last year and they were all oh and one defense trick Yep, right Yep And when you look at stuff like what did corn add? Well a bunch of offense, right? What did uh What did fire slayers add a bunch of melee foot slogging offense? Right. Yep ogres melee foot slogging offense iron jaws melee foot slogging offense and none of these people are like defensive titans Right, there's plenty of four ups running around sure Sure, right. Yeah Yeah But like suddenly the meta changes when there are four competitive forces Let's say they can put out a high armor relatively elite tough force, right? Yep. Yep Especially if they can go ultra high like ultra defensive. I don't just mean people who can kind of have a three up I mean people like obr and and and slaves like you up reroll ones where you can have like two up three ups complete rerolling With an extra after save, you know, just like all that like the ultra defense Yeah, and when you especially when a lot of that stuff tilted towards combat And then you introduce ko who don't care, right? They they were all the strikes first before it was cool. It's called the shooting phase Right Indeed indeed. So I think that's going to be a major major impact Uh, and yes, that leads me to my cerebral prediction new models new dinos Hold on. I don't think that I don't think that ko is going to have the run that it did on shooting Even if they were just largely neg one with some splash neg two It would do a ton of work The rumors right now suggest that it's going to be mostly neg one like even the traditional skyhooks that were neg two We're going to be down to neg one Which like I don't know that it'll do the work against the two up reroll ones like they're not going to shoot things off Um, and they'll have to grind it out And so I think ko actually may like if their shooting ends up being weaker like that I don't know that they I don't know that in the long term Like I would flip your predictions if that ends up being the case And I think that zeech ends up having a much more like long-term impact Yeah, it depends on firepower Yeah, it depends on firepower because I think the move for ko has is to dial back day image and increase like survivability And like increasing survivability to forex is fine But the problem is that doesn't actually resolve against like that doesn't do it against a lot of those armies sure So we'll see and yet again some it very much does like it does you're right That even like but you take neg one rend Uh, and you compare the difference on reroll will saves Or something like that between shooting an obr more tech guard unit and shooting a big cast warrior block Where the cast warrior block is on three up rerolling everything all the time all the time. Yeah, and the obr block is on three up Stop In the shooting phase, right? Right. It's a big difference in impact It is it is Um, especially being able to remove some of the strategic pieces out there like it'll it'll be a big deal It will yeah, sure Okay, so uh, it will also be interesting to see if like The way out there call would be in response to that Do people actually start messing around with anvil guard just to start melting armor off of units because that nuclear button's out there Yeah, yeah, it's always there. It needs door to work. You've got it. You got a door that spell out there, right? But it's there So that's an interesting thing. Let's talk seraphon man. I'm saying new models. What do you feel about that? No, I felt that way like since I made the call regarding like the delay and the new model requirement Like I think there's just so much of the line that needs to be refreshed um uh Yeah, yeah Like if they keep let me say it this way if they keep seraphon Which I think they will. Yep. I I think that the way they keep seraphon is they um Is they uh, they do new models for just a whole host of of of the line. Um, I think that uh And I think that actually like haish like the realm of light Seems like it could be very tropical Like it Lots of sun You are always trying to get to the tropics my friend You're like jamie fox in uh in that movie. He was in with tom cruise collateral. Is that the one? Yeah, that's the one Do you just have like a picture of a beach above your hobby area that you always look down and stare at? I mean, maybe It might be true Because you're you are trying to go tropical all the time. Um But yes, we need we need slon there's so much like fine cast In that line like everything but the big dinosaurs can almost be like renewed Yeah, sure. Um and Like I can only imagine what they could do with like sweet skinks and like a variety of poses and I don't know I would imagine they'll keep the skink kid. That's what I'll say Maybe or maybe not but like the answer is you make new sorus. They introduced a couple new dinosaurs jobs are good Right Skink cab I'd be down for that Right. No, like but like a dual kit between skink and skink chameleon Chameleon skinks. Sure. They could I mean that's a very different numbered unit, but that's but that being said it doesn't have It is right now. Yeah, exactly. It is right now. I I agree It just feels like it would be the perfect candidate for a gloom spike get style release, right? I agree and like they keep all their big monsters. They keep their plastic kits their plastic heroes And uh, and then like all the rest of the kit maybe temple guard get kept everything else gets revised, right? Right. Yep. Yeah, I know I agree with that I mean, that's a good call and I think it'll be the way to that that army is going to be interesting I think to me My personal prediction wise on that one is it'll be fascinating because I think they will still even after the refresh Have somewhat of a hammer challenge. Okay Um, and I think that's kind of how they'll build the book So the play styles you can you your general force is you've got some good shooting You've got some good defense and you've got good magic, right? So that's kind of the three areas they play in and you choose which one of those three You want to kind of push up and down, right? And that's how they balance the book Um, I imagine summoning will see a change to some degree I would agree with that. I don't know what it'll look like, but uh, but I say Teleport them space lizards Okay So that that that thus ended the stuff we know Yeah, now it's time to get spicy. Okay All right, so tom Let's talk spicy predictions. Shall we I have got a list of spicy predictions I thought about today they range some of these are only a mild on the on the scale Right, but some of these are are straight up atomic. I think okay So some of them are like Are like, uh, Polynesian ogres Some yes, they're at that level the scoville units are high. Okay. Sure. Sure. All right. Yep I don't even know where to start with this. So I'm just going to start here. Okay. Okay Let's talk about them and angel elves. Let's talk about coming out of heish Straight out of heish, okay uh A crazy elf named teklis and his brother tirion. So Uh I don't think here. Here's my prediction for these guys what they look like I don't think it's going to be a holy angelic army and it's not going to be giants. Obviously like I don't think that That was that's a fun joke that we've had. Yeah, we've joked around about angel giants, but like that's not happening. Okay Here's here's my guess Who ate the brunt of the decommissions in cities of sigmar? what force ate the actual like As far as like when the baloney was passed out and models were removed Who got the lion's share of that summer sausage? wonders Why they didn't lose that many kits they lost some I guess as a percentage High elves lost a lot of stuff, right? Uh, yes, clearly high elves did Uh, they also lost like eight kits like uh wonders did because they lost all their heroes Like they had like six heroes they lost. Okay, which leads to my two predictions, but let's take one of those I'll accept both answers. Okay. It's high elves Now the reason for that is because and I wouldn't have said this until I was putting together this chaos warrior Okay, that's what that's what solidified this and there's and there's high outfits on them Well, there are there are elvish bits on the on the chaos warriors. Yes, um and on the knights and stuff, but There are elvish bits at least I don't know their high elves. They they look that type of elf. Yeah, but no not that It's that The interesting thing about these guys we we all said their original chaos warriors reimagined, right? Yep And that's very true But in looking even deeper at them They're really original chaos warriors reimagined like the armor. I've painted a lot of these regular chaos warriors in my time Okay. Yep. Yep. And like the old foul ones and a lot of these armor plates and aspects of them and details Are exactly the same Yeah, okay Just reconfigured into a new more interesting total dynamic package Sure. Okay Yep And what we saw with slaves this very classic army was them reimagine it they added the lord on on You know on cack-a-jack Okay The alligator the alligator. Yeah, and we kind of got this feel of like original recipe Slaves brought into into into sort of a new world, right? Yep And so what occurred to me is the right way to go here Would be we know from the lore like they make this reference to these angelic elvish beings, right? But we don't really know what that means in this context Like how do people of the mortal realms perceive these angelic beings? Yeah And so what they're gonna do is they're gonna reimagine the line Okay, the traditional high elf line tiering and tech lists are nostalgic old codgers like most elves are they they Traditionally tom have a problem with letting stuff go. Okay And so I can relate Hmm so the Uh This new line will feel like a very close homage and it will have elements of it that are callbacks to the old kits Okay, like the finicia and the stuff that's saved in the cities Those those are the classic elves that are just now part of cities and integrated into human culture What tiering and tech lists made they'll have these they'll remake elves and they'll remake their culture in a version That feels more angelic Okay, not because they have big flowery wings and stuff like that, but they're just gonna try to perfect it their own personal their own personal, uh, what I want to say like Uh arrogance is such especially tech lists I mean he threw out The iNF deep kid when he made him because he was like not not good enough and he just cast him out, right? So he's clearly aiming at perfection and accepts nothing less and that's classically been like sort of his personality and his flaw, right? they're junk elves I didn't know and so My particular feeling is You will get some like you'll get something that's like winged You'll get some winged type beings in the in this thing, right? But a lot of it's gonna feel like Very much like echoes of the old elves Reimagined does that make sense? So can I push one step farther? Sure, man So a big part of the elven world Because it was an island like there's so much naval Like like ships were like a big thing. Mm-hmm. Sure in their future Um, I'm gonna go one step farther and actually think that like they're gonna they're gonna call our bluff On swift talk Okay And and they're gonna release like that kind of thing in in in like Uh, yeah, they are gonna be winged elves. They are going to descend from the heavens. Yeah And I think that well, I think that I actually would Bank on them being our next um Big new army well big sky-based army Like I think that we are going to get airships. We are going to get more boats. We have dwarves I think we're gonna get elves in boats. Sure, but but more traditional like craft, right? Like yeah, like they're gonna look like big swooby elven things I wouldn't be surprised if they have sails on them. Sure Yep, like and I think they're gonna feel like just these um these very uh Like and like I wouldn't be surprised if we have like the return of hawk riders Oh, that'd be a callback. Sure that kind of thing. Yeah Like giant eagles and hawk riders and stuff like that and like again Like I think that they're gonna they're gonna they're gonna double down on the swift talk and I think the swift talk Aesthetic was only like echoes of what was to come. Sure Sure, that's what I'm saying like and it wouldn't surprise me if a major contention of the army looked like that because I feel like This convinced me that one of the things one of the design areas they've decided to explore Is not just can we make something completely new because they can't come out with seven new armies this year They want to keep up with the product releases, right? But they can't do seven new armies But if they but if they have some that because it's just too much new stuff for people to absorb, right? But if they have a new army that Uh That feels like the old elves reimagined in perhaps a step further Then what this the chaos warriors were still close, right? You can look at it and go that feels like traditional high elves But they're much more dynamic more mobile. You know what? I mean that's yeah The winged like the winged imagery the sun imagery like all that is staple the high elves, right? Um, yeah, yep. Yep. So that's that's that's that one's like a minor spicy take. Okay. That's minor I gotta I got what we're gonna get spicier As we go tom you got you got a hot one for me or do you want me to keep going? Um, yeah, sure. Let me jump in. Um, I think that we are going to see Uh, I'm gonna ride this ship I like brian s by the way his comment was really high elves Yes Really high elves, um Uh, I'm gonna ride this ship And say that like we'll get high elves And then on the other side of high elves We get, uh The grot bag scuttlers. Oh god. See this is here's why I don't think this happens because they've already started the year with a With a flying people against flying people box set So like unless this is the year of the skies, sure. Yes. No, no, you're like, I actually think Yes, what you're seeing is the developmental testing Of the end of the like some other thing Like what what you're getting glimpses of and all that is the product for either late this year or early next year Of it of a standalone Okay, you're seeing sure. Um, and they have one army that's full on ships ko, right? And so I think that the next the the two logical next steps would be to go, um Into elves Because they're already that's already established and then I think either grot bag back grot bag scuttlers or a skyer Uh like the scaven take their ships because they have killed a skyport and taken over their technology One of those two routes are is the is the sequel and I think that grot bags will come first And I think the they will just be like trash ships. And I think that we've I think we've seen glimpses of that already Let me say that. Um, and actually let me let me revise that we might see goblins before we see high elves Um, because goblins are very natural enemies of dwarves Yes, uh, well, here's what I'll say the grot bag scuttlers are a potential high on the list because here's the reality There has to be a new destruction army this year Yes, yes, right. Yep. Yep. Okay. When we look at what the quote unquote new armies were Yeah, right Yep, okay So like and you make your way around the horn and you say, all right. Well order they got ko They got fire slayers. They got eyed net deep again Like they've been a source of a lot of like quote unquote new armies, right Death just got obr They're not getting another they're not marching another force out under a gosh anytime soon, right, right? That doesn't mean I don't think death gets a release this year I'm just saying like it's not the immediate thing in their mind to be to go back to back on that, right Yep Chaos is in a weird spot because what what else do you do in chaos? I'll tell you what you do. I have an answer but like doing another pure chaos force is weird Okay, so the obvious answer if you're going to introduce another new army That you want to pull on to thread from the past Is something like your grot bag scudlers, right? Because this is we would we would need a new destruction force Right. Yep. Yep So doing something like the grot bag scudlers would be fun At the same time if they actually did do Some kind of army of giants or something like that, which by the way I don't think they'll actually do like I think that was too on the nose to say something You know, you might say giant coming soon I would love it if they did Okay, I would absolutely love it if they did Yep, but it just doesn't have the same play as imperial knights like one of the reasons they can sell knights is because it's a big beautiful kid It has all these options and it can march out like the knight was such a multi-purpose win for them Because they could sell it to every like so many people Yeah, right you could buy if you played anything in the imperium anything in chaos or orcs Basically, you could go buy a titan Or you could go buy a sorry a night, right? Right, right And so the question is okay. What do you do then with? Uh Like giants just don't have that range You know what I mean, they're not that's when you look at like who's gonna buy them unless they completely reimagine it And make it like this ultra mercenary force that can kind of work for everybody and blahzy blahzy blah like you'd have to go way out there Mm-hmm. So when you think about destruction, you've got stuff like and and this is what I was going to talk about What are your what are your destruction potentials giants? You're flying goblins your grot bag scudlers, right? Uh the femur which was mentioned in the comments. Yep, I agree, right? Mm-hmm, or you bring out a completely new race like you cut from whole cloth on this right with almost like a Like we try to be elemental like the creature yeah elemental monstrous army something like that, right? Yeah Exactly like uh a truly beast based force, right, right Um would be they could they could originate out of gr You know truly like bestial people and it would be a way to pull on like the werewolf thread Without actually doing werewolves like this. There's this weird piece of lore That's very popular that aos has this blind spot too that warhammer has always had a blind spot too specifically like werewolves and stuff like that Um and beasts of chaos aren't really that Um, so like I'm talking more actual beasts like true Beasts yeah beastial folks So, you know the answer is you could go any of those directions. I don't know that I know which one of those that are I think the one I want the most is A any other beast would be descended from the god beasts. That's what I'm implied. Yes. Yep. Yep And I think that you could go any of those now if I had to rank those my hope would absolutely be That we get the grot bags because that's Amazing like that like big ships like Wait, so you're saying like flying junk heaps and kitbashed, uh, you know, like These like crazy things you think that'll sell. Yeah, they have an entire line of orcs based on just that in 40k Yeah, sure. Sure. Absolutely And and so just to answer a comment real quick here. Mogwai man said I think destruction is done. No one's done Zero things are done They're having paying attention. They they look they're a company that wants to sell you models, man And they've got to keep making them and like we're we're to the end of the refresh now Everybody's refreshed right and this Couple years of gas in the tank Two and a half at least So we'll refresh a couple more books here and there like maybe somewhere in the future They'll do a full nergal refresh or something, you know, since it was kind of a happy book But for the most part it's time to start going nuts Right, right. So nobody can just sit there If I was going to rank them, I would say what I would want to see would be the grot bag scholars on top Femir right under that. Yep beast under that giants at the bottom. Sure Yeah, yep But they've got to keep doing something Yeah, I would agree with that. Yeah Uh, all right, cool. Cool You got anything else? That's a good one. It's a good thought. Um Yeah I want to talk about stormcast. Oh boy. Do I have some stormcast thoughts? Let's talk about what chamber gets open this year It's time to crack another chamber. We know that that's happening Right. I mean like we're almost two years In yep It's time to crack a chamber folks. It's been too long since our boys in golden blue have uh Since sigmar has uh has thrown open the gates Of mighty azir to allow another one of his chambers out into the world, right? Yeah So what chamber are we opening tom? Here's the question. Are we getting ruination? Right. Is that what's happening? Is that what we all want? It's what I want Are we getting are what are we getting what's your thought hit me? Uh, I'm looking at uh It's not ruination. I think we're gonna get the covenant chapter. Okay Okay, and what are what is the covenant chamber? What does that sound like? priests priests Yeah, sure Yeah, and I think you know how I think they that they They take a hard right Design wise here. I'm ready blow my mind tom This is where all of the devotees sigmar went And you're gonna see a storm cast release with humans Oh, okay So in there, you'll have the order of azir. So you'll have witch hunters. You will have Uh warrior priests. So you're gonna have like it'll be the prayer Like it'll be the priestly prayer one because we haven't had a chamber for that, right? We've had bonus prayers, but there's nothing we've got plenty people who pray But not an actual prayer chamber in the same way that sacrosanct is all about the magic and stuff like that Right and what I I think that it will be used to bridge the gap Right like we have flagellants, but I think it'll be used to bridge the gap between The common people of the cities of sigmar And the storm cast and I think that what we'll see is we will see the order of azir Uh devoted of sigmar in this gap where we'll get some more priest units But we're also going to get some human units. It'll actually solve the body's issue Sure. Well, it would also be narratively. It is a it's a narrative move that makes sense Because let's say the with the slaves of darkness archions out there. He's doing some stuff He's going he's he's got plans. He's got machinations Things are on the move and when the demon starts spreading Right when that stuff starts coming out there, then you call in then you call in the the The witch hunters and stuff like that, right? It's time to get it's time to get the faithful out This will either be a storm cast release Or it will be its own order of azir Release and if it is an order of azir release you can I would say that you can expect that it will be It'll be like so here's here. Here's the interesting edge to this either It's another storm cast book with all the same things sure Or it's its own thing that has full use of all the storm cast units Okay And if it's its own thing like if we get an order of azir Like like which is predominantly human based. I think you'll see the sisters of storm cast are human They all the human keyword, but I understand what you mean not not reforged in not lightning and sold storm cast Yes, I think you will get like like Like inquisitors and you're going to get like you would get witch hunters and Do we get a reimagined sisters of sigmar as many people I mentioned in the comments If it's the order of azir then yes Like if they lean away from that you'll basically get like a mini Like they have to have seen the hype of sisters of battle sure And like all of this just is a logical progression out of The next thing that storm cast need Sure So that's my call. Okay. Nope. I'm down with that. That was one of mine as well Uh, and and I had written down like new new new chamber is opened Either ruination or the one with all the priests because I couldn't remember its name Right, but I don't even know what ruination is Explosions it sounds awesome. I don't know, but I like it. I have no idea what's in there But it sounds like a new chamber probably more drakoth riders Like it sounds like extremists to me I don't know. I like I'm I assume it's like the black ops no witnesses chamber Uh, or like the raising salting the earth raising it to the ground um Uh destruction, I don't know like again. I'm calling its covenant chamber. It's uh order of azir Mixed in either in pure storm cast or as its own thing. Sure And yes, I agree like ruination should be ordinance like get rid of this little ballista thing and whatever you've got vanguard chamber That's cute. That's cute. No. No. It's time. It's time to bring in the real heavy weapons massive lightning cannons and stuff like that reimagine trebuchet to rival the The more tech crawler. Yeah, sure. Absolutely. Yep um Yeah, all right. I dig that one Okay Uh, let's pivot a little off of armies. Yep. All right. Here's one for you Let's talk about ghb 2020. That's not a prediction. We know it's happening. It happens every year. Sure. Sure. Sure So a lot of the allegiance rules are now gone because they all have books like we gotten a crazy That does this mean a battle tome is on the way? Yes, it did as a matter of fact So there you go and we we handled most of that stuff Yep, so most of that area disappears Meeting engagements never really took off. I mean people play it. It's fine. It's it's there But there's a there's a there's a hole missing in there in their portfolio tom Okay Okay So in 40k right now if I want a skirmish game I can go play kill team Sure If I want a normal game I play 40k And if I want to go if I want to go big time I go I play apocalypse Right, right. There's no aos apocalypse. There is no aos apocalypse But there needs to be Right So either that gets floated in the new ghb if there depends on where they are in the development of this Okay Yeah, yeah, that's true. You see what I'm saying if they're not ready with it Then it's in the new ghb in the same way the meeting engagements rules were And we get aos apocalypse style massive battle games simplified rules to use just you know 10,000 15,000 points all at once on the table, but in a simplified fashion, right? Yeah, so you can do this massive games. Okay Yep, and They formalize that into a more into a more codified way than how they've done in previous Any previous thing where they talked about like here's a way you could play a bigger game, right? No, I mean like a a test rule set Alternatively if they're if they're farther along in the development of this than I would guess because like this is in the cards They didn't accidentally fit all three sizes of games in 40k, right? That wasn't like That wasn't an accident. And yes, I know about the thing that's in ghb 2017 But the thing in ghb 2017 is pretty informal right Yep What I'm speaking of is something that looks more like a meeting engagement. So if it's ready Then they just say Here's the full thing and it'll release around the same time. Yeah, right? It'll be This giant release with basically a completely alternative rule set Yeah, and the question is do they need to test it more and just kind of put a feeler out there? Or are they ready to go with it? Right because they'll sometimes use the ghb as testing ground for this kind of stuff Emily said that you don't think alias apocalypse. It could be their square base move. No, and here's why I think that whatever aos apocalypse is is the predecessor of the fantasy thing. Okay So of the warhammer fantasy battles thing like the square based mass combat thing um, I think that they end up like testing some mass Combat fantasy stuff You know how just to how like aos dropped and its rules became where we're fine then for 40k when 40k went to eighth Uh, I think what's going to happen is is that the aos fantasy is going to be the testing grounds For whatever later develops into the the fantasy mass bodies. We still know that that's two and a half three years away At least At least minimum So and so they're so we will begin to see those things being teased out. I think in various Lines as they explore game design and I think that like whatever this whatever vince is alluding to with this mass mass battle format this apocalypse aos apocalypse Um, I think that that will be be the testing ground from a game design standpoint for whatever is to come Sure could be Somebody had said do I think more time will come back with the warhammer old world? Who knows maybe could be if they wanted to if they if they ever wanted to release more time That'd be the way to do it I mean they could always just release it separately too like blood bold exists right now and that's basically set an alternative fantasy world And nobody seems to care so Whatever It's like it's fine We can all just it's not like we need a single cannon original more time didn't I've said this like a hundred times But I'll say it again original more time did not happen in the present day Of warhammer fantasy as it was happening. It was 500 years in the past so like cool beans There you go Okay You got another take for me. Yeah aos apocalypse 2020 in some fashion And I think they want it to be its own product. It's just a question of whether they've got it baked enough yet Uh, we are going to see Uh, something happen with death All right, it's going to dramatically impact the shape of um The death Books as we know it. All right. See I have like no death predictions in my in all of my predictions Because I had no idea where to go with death. So I'm interested talk to me tom story time Yeah, so like so legions of negash like that book is tragically like design-wise. It's just in a really weird space And I think that like I think that what the next step is Is we'll see something that is um, probably vampire based And and taps into nefrada Utilizes negash and taps into nefrada like Uh, well, we can go one of two ways. Let me say that way. We either see something that's new lamnia based Okay, that is nefrada negash and her forces Or more likely we see something that's manfred based Manfred ash and vampire based okay Um, but what but I think what we're gonna see is um, we're gonna see both of them frankly And maybe but I don't know that we have two new death armies coming. No, I mean they could both be in the same force. They're both vampires They they are they are possibly possibly um Yeah, I don't know I need to think about it, but um, I just Is this the year we actually get a soul light battle tone? Let's plant a flag on this Do we get a vampire force in 2020? plant the flag Yes I agree because it's the only place I can think to go with deaths and it would be toward the end of the year I think that we're gonna get A new army for every grand alliance sure Like and what I mean that like a truly new concept army for every yeah, yeah Because we had 12 books this year. We're not gonna have 12 books next year probably this year. Sorry, but I could see four new ones Sure, but I would like it's just hard to imagine because we don't need to update that many books Where you have just book releases that being said I could see a world where we have nine books this year Right and three of them we know are going to be in the beginning of the year So that's three down right there You got four completely new armies and then two more reimagines right two more like updates Yeah, yep. Yeah, so that could be the world we wanted to and I agree I think that's a good call tom because honestly unless they just Unless they just for a second time Magic up a whole new force Like they did with obr Yeah, where else are we going with with death vampires are the way to go It has such a huge traction It's got a huge pedigree in the past lore And there's and it's very very anemic right now and how it's built out Right, and we've seen stuff that could be blood knights in various Rumor engines and things like that Right I don't think it'll be called soul blights. It'll be like uh Uh, what's another word for blood like the sanguine Legions or something. Oh sure sure sure something like that. Yeah. Yeah We'll just call him the sanguinary guard not that other sanguinary guard not that not that not the one with the lasers It's the sanguinary guard with the teeth teeth not lasers Uh, yeah, sure No, I think that's a good call and and I like that. I like the swing that they would have a new force for every grand alliance and that does make sense uh because Vampire it Yeah, that's good one tongue because they It feels like what they're going to have to do because they can't just slam dunk a release For an alliance by just redoing one of the books Right, right, right. We're we're out of that That's not that's not doable anymore The low bar is gone Right exactly exactly like that's what they did this last year. They removed all the low bars Correct. All the low hanging fruits have been plucked Now there's some there's some slightly higher fruits, which are like storm cast chambers That's a button you can just keep punching forever and keep getting new armies out of not everybody has that kind of depth So what's the new chaos army? I'm glad you asked tom. Let's talk about it. Here we go. Get ready for that spicy take All right, so this one this one's I don't know. I'd call this one moderate to hot Here we go. Okay What's the new cast army? Well tom? I'm glad you asked the new cast army is going to be a gold faction Okay, it's going to be our first gold faction. We've been calling it for a while This year Like I've given up I've given up hope don't give up hope. Let me explain what the gold faction is tom. You ready? Okay, hit me the gold faction is going to be slanesh Mortals of some kind somebody was a step ahead of me in the in the comments They just like literally as I was saying this type slanesh mortals Yes, and here's why Maybe it's got elves. Maybe it's got humans. Maybe it's got a mix of both. I don't really care Okay, okay One there was no slanesh mortal Really, I mean obviously there's slaves to darkness, but they didn't get their own version, right? there was no You know, there was no rotbringers No blood bound No, so you think they were like really compelled by your leather daddy's call I think they were really compelled by doing something interesting with slanesh and slanesh happens as part of other cultures Right Like one of the things of slanesh is slanesh takes root. The other gods can happen almost anywhere Like corn's bar is just people exist You just have like barbarians with almost no civilization and they can just fall to corn because they're just blood thirsty, right? Yeah Zinch has a lot of a lot of small individual Infiltrators, right? Yeah, he likes civilization, but he likes working through like Brilliant individual people Right like the person who founded gray water being a secret zinch sorcerer Yeah Nurgle just likes coming in and showing up and spreading disease everywhere But slanesh is is the other way around It's good people who go bad As as as much as everything else. It's normal civilization And as it becomes richer the more wealthy the more powerful the more successful A civilization is the more likely they are to fall to slanesh Right? Yep Right before the guillotines come out everybody's gone to slanesh, right? Yep and So the uh Here's my prediction gold faction slanesh mortals and That is the reason a bunch of the weird slanesh things and spells and stuff got phrased as not only a slanesh Spellcaster can do it. Yeah, they got phrased as a chaos slanesh caster can do this thing And the reason that they phrased a bunch of stuff with that extra word You don't need like you didn't need the chaos keyword Following in front of the slanesh keyword in a lot of cases because the slanesh keyword Auto is is the vend diagram overlap is a hundred percent With things that are chaos, right and yet repeatedly Throughout the book. You see chaos slanesh Okay, why add that extra keyword? The answer is because you needed to separate for your future faction That is a gold faction that can be ordered on one side Right when they haven't yet fallen or they're hiding or they're infiltrating or or they're they're living their excessive life But they're not whatever whatever it doesn't matter. Yep. And then they can go Yes, exactly. And then they can go chaos slanesh Right where they can be on that side of it. This is the year we get the gold faction Makes sense Yeah, now that's my that's my big call It's like is it going to pull in current kits or is it all new all new kits? This is a this is a cut from whole cloth new army Because like I could see them pulling in Like witch elves Not to keep that stuff out of there keep marathi and her stuff out of there. I get it I get why you're saying that No, they would do it as a whole cut from new I could see it fitting Pretty easily I just feel like all the instances of chaos slanesh that happen over and over again in the book and other times we see it Is too much of a dead giveaway that there needs to be something else Otherwise that because they don't just print those extra words for nothing and it doesn't happen anywhere else in the other chaos books No, that's true It's true. No, it's a good. It's a good call. Let me say that Uh Want another hot take Yep, we're getting a new skaven book this year. I don't mean like a generic skaven Yeah, I was we're gonna we're gonna get a clan. Yes, we're gonna get a new clan This will be one of three things I don't know which one but here they are one esch and build out ninja rats everywhere do it It's awesome. It would be great to reimagine with new sculpts Two you mentioned like the technology-based flying Skaven skryer thing so they could go that direction That's a crap Big big technology-based Show that the skaven or the end, you know, when we talked about when I a couple some episodes back I made the point that archaeo the most technologically advanced Race in the mortal realms and a bunch of people said no in the comments said no skaven are right Yep And I said I don't really know that that's true because all of skaven like maybe in the narrative But like all of skaven's technology we see on the table is the same craft they had in the old world Right, they haven't advanced at all. There were no aether gold harvesting ships flying around with drill cannons Okay in the old world that wasn't a thing. So sorry on the table Skaven have been surpassed in technology Yes, right. Yes So this would be the chance for them to reclaim their title Right, sure Um I could see it option three Okay Is and some people are saying molder Maybe I don't know my just my gut instinct tells me there's not as much there But but maybe but my option three is they actually introduce a new clan The skaven clans are multitudinous beyond number Right, like there is Could you do the airship clan? Like a clan that is like a pirate a pirate Uh I mean they were scryer But sure You let them break off and become their own thing Yeah, and like and maybe they differentiate it that way like there was another one that was a very popular clan That was like warriors, right? Yeah clan verminus is still around Well, no not verminus. There's another one that was like What am I thinking of um Do you want me to pull off my skaven clans book? I don't care. Um There were many clans dom. There were tons of them. They were detailed like the The in the various skaven resources. There are lots Uh, something like that as well. I would agree with you like clan scurvy. Yeah, there you go What cinderfall said sure I mean, look the point is is that there is a multitude of other clans and they can just cut one from whole cloth and go boom Right new airship or not. Sorry not new airship new skaven. Uh new skaven thing, right? Oh, yes Uh des is saying moors is moors what you were thinking of they were another like warlord based They sold a lot of storm vermin to people Maybe maybe It's fine. It doesn't matter. There were many warrior based clans. Um, it was like red were their colors I'll I'll pull up the heraldry at some point Uh, yes famously. Thank you cinderfall. Yes clan moors was quick Was quick had to there was part of playing moors Uh that that and obviously the new quick models like the second best skaven model they ever made Yeah At any rate, so yeah new book new skaven book. It's too big. It's too easy There's still a lot of room to explore there. It is another button. They can keep hitting. It's another way to get a new chaos tome Yep, okay. Yep Um, the trick is to it is how much do they want to invest in new Sculpts in new scopes. Yeah Yeah, no, it's a good question and I don't have an answer to that um But I agree. I think skaven are the the next book um That would make sense to me Okay Are we getting kurnathi in 2020 or is that 2021 because I think we are going to get kurnathi at some point they didn't accidentally make a a An underworlds war band of like these crazy punk rock Uh, you know half satyr centauroid elves and just go yeah, you know what four of those seems good. Let's call it a day No reason to explore this any further. I don't think that it's early if anything. I think it's late 2021 okay You're saying it's like late 2020 early 2021. Yeah, I feel like kurnathi's pushing it this year But who knows maybe I'll be proven wrong But but here's my statement kurnathi are coming There's no way that doesn't get built into a faction. Yeah Yeah Yeah, but what I would say is I would anticipate that it's an it's like it's an experiment Like beast grave was an experiment with them. Sure And so I'm saying that you have a two-year lead time on that. Okay Which would put them in 2021 Fair enough And let's say we're like super super confident that that's the army Yeah, I mean And but let me just say this If they go that route I wouldn't be surprised if kurnathi end up being a gold faction as well playing between order and destruction yeah I I could see like of the gold factions. They are another one that I could see exploring that like barbaric like Lifestyle sure the barbaric lifestyle. They're in the lifestyle is what you're saying tom That's a big 10 for Okay, so I think that Like I just feel like this is the year we have to get the gold faction Because as we've as we've updated everything and they need to start pushing and exploring this new territory The gold faction and I hope everybody who's watching understands. I mean when I say gold faction gold I'm referencing traditionally gold magic cards, which were like two color cards You know, there were one red man and one black man at a cast So they're neither red nor black. They were gold, right? So that's that's what we're referencing here. Just make sure that everybody's on the page because not everybody necessarily played magic Yeah, they play multiple grand alliances, which by the way is going to be hilarious If like for what it does for like best in faction Like event awards Yep, like can those compete? Well, you'd have to still you're gonna still dedicate. Yes, because when you play the gold factions You'll still dedicate to a particular alliance great Yeah, you play them as order or you play them as chaos in the case of the slanesh mortal faction that I'm describing Which I'm just I am super on about that take Ah, clearly Maybe maybe I'm excited that for the second year in a row. I'll have to be painting a bunch of slanesh stuff It will never Maybe maybe it's maybe it is truly like the unifying factor is is you're both Like the unifying factor is like the other keyword that they share Could be like that. You're saying they have both the order and chaos keywords, right? And then you just They may have order or they may have chaos But that's not actually what creates the grand all of the the allegiance. The allegiance is a second key keyword Yeah, sure. I understand what you're saying. They're they have both and then they have a third thing Called blah and that's what it actually is like the like the like the pleasure Pleasure seekers sure Um, and that's the key word that that binds it into it's a cohesive force That everything is keyed off of that determines what they can order chaos Leather daddy got it. I'm with you. Okay. Sure those three keywords Um Yeah, I don't think we'll see anything malaria in base this year I think that's still I I don't think we we only get one of the big boys Of the elvish world per year And I think that he's the reactive like I think that By the way, he's the last one out of the gate The reason why by the way why I think we I'm gonna jump back to a prior topic why I think we get the priests In this cycle The priest sigmar the sigmarites the covenant chamber is because we're in the death cycle Yeah, that's the big bad uh-huh Like in this edition Nagash is our big villain that we're fighting against. Yep. And so I think that we get The I think like your priests are typically those that are dealing with death Um And so I think that that is a kind of another logical connection for For us doing like like them having an anti-undead chamber Which by the way, let's say it would be amazing in the next edition If uh, if if destruction was our the main villain, how awesome would that be sure? Yes, and as j hoops pointed out the covenant versus slanash is also a slam dunk, right? That's an easy That's an easy turn. Yep. Um the Mogwai man says I'm just gonna guess that we only get four battle tomes for 2020 That is a bold prediction being that we're we're already getting two 11 days into the year and we have it on pretty good authority that the next one's coming next month. So by 40 days into the year we've gotten three out of those four It feels like they're not gonna sleep on a whole product line For 10 months, man. That's just personal take. I don't know. I don't know all right, uh War cry stuff My particular feeling is like all the obvious stuff is true I don't think I don't know that I super have a hot take on any work right thing Because they will continue to expand all of the available races that can play in war cry Yep They will continue to do additional expansion books For war cry to let you play in new ways Yeah, right like it's just They they have said openly they have a three year Uh Design commitment already for war cry Yep, they said that at the talk with when they released the monsters and mercenaries Um, we already have covered a lot of the ground that mortyme originally did with the film of champions introducing big campaign stuff and and that kind of thing and the um And the monsters and mercenaries introducing your you know your monsters and mercenaries Uh, I suspect we'll eventually get a dramatic person I book Um, we'll get probably a big book of scenarios and things like that like narrative stories to tell Like just obviously the toma champions has a bunch of new campaigns and stuff like that in it But I think they'll do a big book of of those kinds of scenarios, especially tracking into other places Uh, we'll probably get an expansion taking war cry's rules into a place other than the verinspire Yes, yes, I would agree with all that. Um Can I ask a question? Yeah, man Is this the year That the gates of azure cracked open? No, I mean that will probably happen eventually because it's boring Um, like it's the most boring thing that can happen is for azure to get attacked. It really is I know everybody sounds like ah yay. Let's bring down the walls But like attacking holy terra is attacking holy terra, man Been there done that Like we get it You know, what's kind of cool about azer in the mortal realms Is that azer existing keeps the mortal realms from being a total awful wasteland of depression Like the cities are cool but I actually really like that That situation is undefiled. Yeah, that like there is a place that cannot be defied Where yeah, you know Like it makes the world not completely terrible There actually is some place where there's something that passes as peace Isn't that kind of a neat thing? Yeah, that like the world isn't just a total crap hole Like 40k's world is So then like so then let me say this If they if they crack them open It's going to be destruction. Yeah, sure, of course Because chaos already tried and failed so it's not going to be chaos All of the combined power of the chaos gods didn't do it last time So it'll be a dumb dumb from destruction who does it somehow The green title crack could open and I just I couldn't hate that more and I say that as a massive fan of orcs Right. Yeah. Yes. Thank you, Brian s. He said it shows what order is actually fighting for Sure. Yeah, it's actually like It's cool That that exists and like I understand that on that one war scroll What is it? Um on the lumen arc or one of them or one of the things like that They said if this battle is taking place in azir This thing happens, right? First of all, I would print that too No matter what even if I had no plans For the next three years to do anything with azir Azir, I would print that on the war scroll just to tease nerds Sure, right Because it gives me the option to go back later and people will be like, oh, see I saw the one thing like yeah I got you jk. I know how you wrote these books. You just throw out threads until it's time to pick them up later I understand Okay Oh, that's fair, but what I was going to say is that that may give impetus for the light elves to actually show up because I don't know what in the narrative happens that forces teclis's ain't teclis and tyrian's Archeon goes on a on a binge slanesh busts out. There's like 10 different things that could happen Yeah, by the way, the slanesh mortal release could also be when we actually break out slanesh When we when we get her out of the box Okay Like because the amount of worshipers she has in the world has emerged to such a level That she he emerges and her her revelers come out from their their hidey holes, right? Um So just a thought but like my point is is that no, I don't want easier cracked. It's boring It's boring Okay, it's that's kitty baby stuff Okay, like I just want to destroy everything nice All right, cool, man. Well have a good time Like that's fun Yep Yeah, there we go. We're back All right, cool. It'll take a second to catch up, but we can keep talking. It'll catch up to them Uh All right, so at any rate any other products tom any other products you think well I know we're going to call this a break here soon I want to finish with our own personal hobby resolutions for 2020 But any other any small products you see for the year? Anything you can think of? Um, I think they're going to do something narrative related I think we're going to get a narrative box That's a good call Yeah, it's been it would like introducing all that narrative stuff for war cry was pretty good As cinderfall pointed out the rpg is coming out So it'd be a good time to do a big narrative product. Yeah I think we'll get a firestorm like a box like firestorm, but not firestorm. I think it'll be something else I think it'll be campaign related. I think it'll be probably rules heavy Like so it may be heavier than just a can't a narrative box Like it could be something not unlike malign sorcery like should have been Sure So it could have some endless spells or some terrain and like it could be a a whole collection of stuff. Yeah, yeah Do we get uh, do we get an additional list of cities? in 2020 or 2021 I think 2025. I agree. Do we get cities to electric boogaloo? Yep, where we get uh, we'll get Z or we'll get shy-ish So like here's the deal. I think that we'll get Um Like in the release year of like once we get both Haish and ulgu yep On the other side of that so maybe late 2021 late 2021 I think we see cities too that involve cities from haish and ulgu Right and to pull new units in yep And just like the previous ones they're set to the cities and so on and so forth. Yep Yeah, and I think that that's where we'll begin to see um Yeah, I mean chamon is the other place where we know there are human cities and and they can play with that stuff too Right. I really see them have dwarves and stuff like that there in chamon as well. Yep Yeah, so I agree. Uh, any other calls we want to make any other shots you got across the bow tom? um Talked about death talked about grot bag Um, I think we've given some spicy takes I think so too. All right. Um, yeah. Yeah. No, I think it's good I I think this will be some fun stuff. I I am excited for 2020. I I really am. Um I can't wait to see what The sculptors and writers and artists Give us now that they don't have to keep remaking old books Yep, right. Yep. We have a direction now the game is coherent. It's in a good place Like everything is is we're banging on all cylinders here You know, let's time to unleash Right, let's get it Uh, so I am stoked for what this year will happen Which leads us to uh, let's just close out here tom. What's your personal hobby resolution in 2020? Or resolutions Um, I am going to try to finish my dwarves this year Okay And what I mean by that is like I am going to get it done And then it'll be done Like get it a spot where I'm comfortable and I'm not like where I can truly shelve the army and not into like I'm not gonna play it, but just simply and like I'm not adding to it Um, and then I am going to paint some elves Nice Some new elves some new elves if the new elves come out That is your resolution. You will collect that army. You will paint that army Uh, assuming I don't hate it. Sure, which I see almost no chance of Right, like if it is true high elves like I I'm not gonna hate it. Yeah, I'm gonna loves it. Sure. All right Uh, yeah, my personal resolutions, uh, I want to finish up both the forces. I'm working on right now Get them up to at least, you know 2k something like that So that's the that's the uh the crimson. I need to think of a second word. What's the second word of that? I'd originally wanted to call him the crimson tide, but that's like a football team or something So I can't do that I crimson dawn. Yeah, that's no, that's that's something too And like everything is already taken. I need a good word on the backside of crimson for this force Um, I thought revelry, but that's too slanash, you know horde, but that's too corn Like it has to be one word that can capture both of them Um The I want to finish that force out chaos. That's your get out of here Uh, I want to finish my whirlwinds edge army. I'm really excited about that Uh, but that'll you know, and then what I really want to do this year Is like that'll give me a whole force that I converted almost from scratch right And uh and a sort of updated version of something I can use in multiple ways I really want to do a project in the second half of the year um Either army wise or competition wise or both I want to do something really really big And flashy that I sit down and go this is all I'm going to do for like six months Are we so Here's the question for having a competition piece like it's a two month piece. It's a three month piece Like literally a 300 400 500 hour piece So what are we doing for havoc? Are we going to start calling that now? No, we got to wait a little while See the new stuff. Yeah, see the new stuff then we decide Oh, we got lots of good options here. Let's see Uh crimson rain by prince Uh crimson wave veil cavaliers cascade brigade deluge Nomal tea Uh, oh nobility that makes more sense concave congregation Forces crimson daddies well well said jeff lewis ponies. Yeah avalanche. That's nice nice I do like I do like Crimson cult psychedelic furs That crimson cult. All right. I'm gonna go back and look at all these. These are all really good suggestions So but I want to do a really big thing could be an army project. You know what I mean? Like I want to do something that I that's it's That I that's crazy No, I get it like my like I realize when I get done with these dwarves like it's gonna be insane Like It'll be like 20 000 points or more of dwarves. Yeah, sure All told in all your in all your across all your three factions. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah Insane There you go All right. Well, that's ours. 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