 Run it up, run it back, run it up, run it back, run it back, run it back. Well, happy Thursday morning. This is Run It Back right here on Fandal TV. We are missing Shoms today, feeling a little under the weather. Yep, get well soon, but we have allergies being represented up here quite well. So, Taylor P, Lou Will, we've got a lot of basketball to get to, a lot of basketball, some shenanigans as well, but we are gonna start with the Warriors. They gotta win, beat the magic, 101, 93. We'll get to the Dremont stuff in a second. Steph Curry had 17, 10 assists. Andrew Wiggins with 23 points, and Cole Anthony, 26 points off the bench. But, as per usual, we're talking about Dremont for not great reasons. Less than four minutes into this one, I thought it was a typo when I saw it all happening. He was ejected, two Ts. This is career high fourth ejection of the season. The night after, he puts Patty Mills in a headlock. Guys, and by the way, this is the part that broke my heart. You made Steph Curry cry, dude. Literally. Now, who's defending? Let me hear who's defending Dremont today, go. Today's not the day, but today is not the day. I was, I didn't like that. Based on, you know, early in the games, the score was six to six. Yeah, come on. Nothing should be this serious in the game where it gets under your skin. And Dre, you weren't even part of that play. You know what I mean? But seeing his reaction when he's talking to the ref, it looks like something was said to him that he probably disagreed with in that conversation. He took exception to it. All in all, we gotta look at Big Picture. I've been an advocate of Dremont. I've defended. I've said, if my enforcer is gonna be an enforcer, I want him to be himself at all times. I'ma scale that back a little bit because you're getting to a point in the season where these games are important and it shows in Steph Curry's reaction. You know, he was emotional about that because it means so much to this organization to continue on and Dremont is a big part of that. And he gotta start carrying himself like that. Obviously he knows that, but when you get kicked out of the game four minutes in, this is detrimental to what you're trying to do. Now you're, it's being disruptive. So I didn't like that. I didn't like the public display of frustration that it put Steph Curry in a position to show in a position that it put the Warriors in. Even though they got a big win, I didn't like this. Yeah, my problem, it's been disruptive. This isn't new. This is, it's a tired act and the juice isn't worth the squeeze to me and I don't think it's worth it to them either. You can see clearly. I like that. Clearly you can see that Steph Curry, he's never, I've never seen him this frustrated in his entire career. Ever. Lost losing in the post season, anything. So in my opinion, he's done with Draymond Green. He is over the antics. He understands how valuable he is to this team and four, five, six minutes, whatever it was into the game. At this point of the season where you're fighting for your life, you're fighting for a possibility of getting into a play and well, meanwhile, the hottest team in the NBA is running 10 straight. Right. And you're arguably your second most valuable player is getting tossed again after getting, you know, away with murder of the night before. Choking out Patty Mills. It's just, it's a tired act and it's exhausting. And again, like Lou always says, this is who he is. That's fine. And I understand the whole emotional aspect and he brings energy to his team and he is that spark. And they are a lot better when he's on the floor. The problem is when he keeps doing shit like this, he's not going to be on the floor. So that is when now you're being selfish. You're being irrational. You're being way too emotional and you're costing your team wins. You're costing your franchise money. You're costing yourself all that too. So it's just a bad look. And there's no way in my eyes that he's on the Golden State Warriors next year. I don't know how that's going to happen, but like Steph Curry is over it, man. I mean, if you lose Steph Curry, you know what I saw there and it kind of was heartbreaking. It was just like, that's his friend first and foremost. And it was almost like the realization hit Steph in that moment. Like this dude will never. And I don't care how many therapists you have on retainer or how many days you're going to talk. Well, you know what it did for me. It put everything Steve Kerr has been saying in perspective about we can't expect Steph Curry to carry the load on every single thing you saw. He had, he was frustrated. He's tired. He's kicking chairs. We've never seen this side of Steph Curry and it's getting heavy. You know, the expectations are getting heavy and he's dealing with a lot of, I don't want to say he's dealing with it alone because you know, this is obviously a team sport and guys are contributing. But you know, publicly this looks like it's getting to be a lot for Steph Curry and I hate it to see that. And think about Steve Kerr saying we can't keep putting this much on Steph Curry. So Draymond Green, let's get tossed within five minutes game and put even more on Steph Curry. It's like, it's selfish. She's not listening. He's not, I don't care how intense, how emotional you are as a player. You're still, you have to be under control. You're an adult. You're a man. You're a father. Like you have to get your feelings in check. Control himself. Or it's going to cost your team and your career. Like, and again, I think he still has value where other teams will maybe take a flyer on him. He's going to be a Hall of Fame player based on what he's done his career up to this point. But these are all self-inflicted wounds. And it's disgusting that we're sitting here talking about this. When they had a huge win last night in the most important part of the season and we're talking about how this guy got tossed again and did something crazy that we're all just not even surprised but yet somehow still surprised. I mean, it's, look, I spent an entire day thinking about how annoyed we are right now. And you know, what do you think that locker room is thinking about? What do you think? Steph was asked about it after the game. Here he is. What did you think of the Draymond injection? Well, I'll say it, Wendy, we need him. He knows that. We all know that. So whatever it takes to keep him on the floor out, he'll be available. That's what's got to happen. The guy has one of the greatest lifes ever. He's healthy. For sure. He's happy. He's so loaded, wildly rich. He's devastated. He's so upset because his teammate, you said his friend can't keep his emotions in check and play the game of basketball. That's all you gotta do. And this dude is getting help, got help. I don't know if it's a continuing processor, if it was a one-off just to tell the league he's good, but to not be able, I mean, we all have anger management issues to a point, right? Whether it come out in the car or whatever. His is all the time on the court and he cannot help himself. I'm gonna give him some credit. You think he got help? I ain't really trippin' on the help because this is an on-court thing. He doesn't have a history of behavior. But that's his job. Right, but he doesn't have a history of behavior issues when it comes to his personal life. I give him credit for that. So sometimes we start talkin' about, he needs the help and all of that stuff. I kinda take a cut off of that because some of this is theater, right? Some of this is- It's not good theater. I'm with you. But some of it is part of the entertainment side and we're commentin' on it based on entertainment. People are gettin' hurt. You don't smack to him a few faces and put a couple headlots in a couple choke holes. Don't get me wrong, but I just wanna see him carry himself to a place where you hate for their dynasty and everything that they've been able to accomplish be marred with this type of attention. You know what I'm sayin'? And that's my thing. Like Lou said too, it's tricky for me and Lou because we played basketball and we know these guys. So we know Draymond Green off the court. We know him on the court. Draymond's a friend. He annoys the shit out of us on the court too. But off the court, the guy is cool. The guy is a solid, good dude that I've actually enjoyed my time with off the court. So I try and tread lightly when he behaves like this on the court, but man, it's like I'm like a parent. I'm not mad, I'm disappointed. It's like how many times does it have to happen? But as a player, I get it. As a player, I get disappointed. As a former teammate, you're like, bro, enough is enough. Like if I'm in that locker room- Because Steph is the hall of fame, right? The problem is he's the vet on that locker room and it's not gonna be Clay and it's not gonna be Steph Curry that's gonna grab him by his jersey today and say, bro, enough. No one in that locker room is gonna do that. There is no vet on that team. There's no Iguodala anymore. There's no, Chris Paul should do it, but he's new, he's the new, you know what I mean? So it's, there's, he is that enforcer. So there is no one to check Draymond in that locker room, which is another hard part because Steph Curry and Clay Thompson are two of the nicest people in the world. Also they do a good thing there. They don't want confrontation. They've been there. They've had a hell of a career, hall of fame career with Draymond Green. He's a huge part of that. But again, there's, it's not like he's this young guy that needs two to lynch and a mentor. He's the vet. He's the, oh, you get your shit together. That's what this is. And you know what kind of example, like Trace Jackson and Kaminga, Kaminga, Trace Jackson, do you want those guys fall on this guy's knee for the next five, seven years? You know what I mean? So it's tough. And this puts a lot of pressure on Mike Dunleavy this summer. He's got so many decisions to make. What does he do with Wiggins? It's Chris Paul. And now their biggest decision is probably this guy just based off his behavior and how he's acted. Because don't we think he's there still because Kerr and Curry are like no way about it? And you see when he just came back from his first suspension from something else that he did, their team plays much better when Draymond Green is on the floor. No doubt he is their best defensive player. He is their catalyst. He's a vocal leader. Even offensively, he knows how to get them. He knows how to play really well off Steph Curry and Clay Thompson. The problem is when you continue to do things like this, it's like Steve Kerr has every right to shut him down for the season. Like, you know what I mean? He's just something dramatic. Cut him, wave him, get him, buy out, do something. But how many other times, how many strikes does this guy get? Guys, a cat. 37. Well, you know why they don't do that? Because they need him. Besides, well, yes. They're brightening still. And they're literally have the, they could, they... They could not make the play. The Rockets weren't doing what they were doing. I think they wouldn't. Besides the Jordan pool issue, everything that he's doing is against his opponents. I think that gives him some leeway still with the Golden State Warriors where they don't bench him and they don't suspend him in house because he's not, he's being detrimental to the team, but he's not being detrimental to his own teammates. And that's what we're saying. Like, we know he's a good guy. So Steph and Clay and these guys that have been around, they love him off the court. They love him. He's a great dude off the court. It's just, I don't know. That's why the reaction on Steph was, it was like, wow. Because you could tell. Like, wouldn't you ever felt like that bad for Steph Kerr? You made him cry. But he did do a night night celebration. We did get a great night night celebration out of Steph. The whole length of the court after hitting this three that put things away. I mean, just a lot of, that's a long night night celebration. Yeah, and this is what we should be talking about. This is what, this is the Warriors fighting for their life, beating the fifth seed in the Eastern Conference on the road with dream one getting suspended, overcoming all those obstacles. So this is what we should have started the show at. This is what we should be talking about. We should be talking about how solid of a game Wiggins had. 23 points, finally found his rhythm up into it. That's too frustrating, bro. Aha. No, it's just, it's ridiculous. It's so good. We have a, we have a lot of things to talk about because we should be thankful for guys like Dreymon Green. But Jesus, like, I'd stop. It's irritating, I think, as a, just a fan of the game because Dreymon's not the guy on this team. Steph is. Steph, Steph arguably has changed the NBA in his time that he's been in this league. The idea that you as not the guy is constantly the one bringing all this drama Well Steph is the lead singer. 100%. But he's in the band. He's in the band. Dreymon, Dreymon is a big part of the band. But you know what, he can be replaced as a part of the band. The problem is he's not the guy and he's not the future. So he's kind of right in the middle where he is replaceable and they have decisions to make this summer. And if I was a betting man. That's a hot take, Chandler. I mean, how could it not be? Unless he retires, which I don't think that's happening. I just think that's just how the game goes. So you think he's out too at the end of the season? I think at this point you have to address it. And I think he's aware of that as well. Like, you know, he's even made comments kind of similar to that even before he got his deal. That, you know, maybe this is the end of the road. Did he tweet? Is that the deal Dreymon had? By the way, you could tell he was trying to be nice to Steph because he was waiting for him afterwards. It's too late. He's already cried on the thing. Did he tweet after the game? Is that what I'm seeing right here? I'd like to see a Dreymon tweet. Oh, holding it down. I just, I'm telling you, there's no awareness at all. There's no accountability, nothing. Not, hey, sorry, I let you down again. This is like a classic deflection. Man, I want to see the schooling of these therapists. I'd like to know where they went to school. Certificate. I'd like to see your degrees. Please, Mams and Sir. We had another big game last night. This was a good one. Don't look now, Lou. Clippers. Is it happening? Sixers, Clippers, they beat them. 108, 107. This was Hardin's first game back in Philly, and he got food. He had 16-14, Kauai Leonard, 17-9, Tyrese Max, and he's doing it all with 26 points, but Sixers coach Nick Nurse was furious. There was a no-call on the final play. He's out there, things are happening. Talk to me, is it a foul? Should it have been a foul? I mean, the only way I think it might be a foul is if he's in the circle, which I don't think he is. He goes up pretty good vertical. The problem where I think it was a foul was the first play of the end of regulation. Right. The one where he went from the left baseline, but again, this is, there's some contact there. They said, the refs admitted to ask, by the way, I don't know the law. They remitted after the game. Yep, should have been a foul. Yeah, like it's, there's contact, but I think a lot of times at the end of the game, refs try and let you play. They try and let you, and as a player, you try and make them force their hand to blow the whistle. So this is kind of both trying to do their job, trying to let them play, trying to get the contact. And it could have went either way. And it's scary because if that whistle is blowing, the clippers. And you gotta think, it took us four or five times for us to have a solid opinion. Like, and we're still like, I don't know. Yeah, I still don't. So real time right there, you let them play. Obviously somebody's gonna be gonna get the short end of the stick. Last night it was the sixes. Go win for the clippers. Yeah, it was Nick Nurse. It was also one of my, and I understand the hypocrisy I'm about to do here that I'm gonna love this next video and poop on Dreymon, different deliveries. Because Kelly Ubre, yep, you will be, you will be, you will be here. And then, and then, you're cool. Who's Nick? This man. It's my son. Okay, all of them. And he said, okay, look. Okay, okay, making sure you heard me. And then moves on to their mothers after her. He does move on to their mothers after her. If mom's a bee, your mom's a bee. She might be a bee, you don't know. So Kelly Ubre doesn't have a history of this type of thing, right? Oh, yes. If this is Dreymon Green, the world blows up today. And he's so calm, like, I'm telling you, the delivery, it's perfectly done. The question however today is the over under on the fine. We're gonna start guessing. I thought it was, I thought the over was gonna be 50. Now watching this, this might be 75. Oh, it's over. This is 20. You think it's over 50 for sure. This is 25 per bitch. All right. 25 per bitch. What about that? What about the mom bees? Oh, he threw some moms in there? Yeah, he got some moms in there. What do you mean? He said, you're a bitch, you're a bitch. And then he goes back and says, your mom, your mom, your mom is a bitch. God, it's my 50. Did he? He dropped six different insults. He did. There were six individual. Individually. That's 150. You think it's 150? That's the math. I can't wait. That's 25. Here's the thing with this too, which it's hilarious from watching it. You think these refs are gonna forget this next time they rep you? Oh, no. Oh, no. This is a little issue. At the end of the day, those guys are human. You basically just went at them. It's the, it's the, you're a bitch. Okay. That's, that's kills me. Check it out. Okay. And also your mom. And then your friend and your. But listen. If you know you're going to get fined. Go. Get your money's worth. Just run. Yeah. Get your money. Like after you get your second tee, you get like a free 10 seconds of going off. Then you get a little angry. Oh God. And then he's got the, he's on fire last night. You know what though? And then you apologize afterwards. He did. I think we'll soften the blow a little bit. So when you, when you do all of this and then you apologize, Michelle, you're not standing on business. Oh, so, oh, interesting. So Draymon stands on business. Draymon is standing. Is that good though? I feel like that's not good here. Precisely. Draymon stands on business. There you go. There you have it. Okay. Well there was a final 45 seconds. Kawhi Leonard with a bucket and one to give the Clippers the lead. Then the game winning and one. And then the game saving block, which is what you saw in the controversial play there at the end. Yeah, claw. Let me ask you this. When we get to see this Kawhi, it's just, it's a beautiful thing. How many dudes are you taking over a healthy Kawhi compost? That's such an interesting question. And that's what makes the, that's what makes the Clippers dangerous because if I'm not going to take Kawhi, I'm probably going to take a couple guys that's wearing the same uniform that he has on. I like, I like Paul George in the closing moments of games. Let's not forget who James Harden is in the closing moments of games when you put that ball in his hands. So to see this. Okay, sorry. So to see this version of Kawhi, this is a good sign. They got away with a win last night, foul or no foul, but moving forward. If he's in attack mode like this, this at the end of games on the offensive end, defensive end, that makes the Clippers a dangerous team. Yeah, and it's safe to say he's back. He's ever been 24, six and four. That's a great season for Kawhi Learn. He's played a lot, he's played 66 games. So he's, he's been available. And that's been kind of his issue for over the last couple of years where when he's on the floor and this year, this is the best he's looked. He looks strong, he looks healthy. He looks like he, he's back to that two way player that he was in San Antonio and he was in Toronto that year. So this is huge for him because he is one of the best two way players of all time. And when he's healthy like this, he can be still a dominating force, especially with the supporting cast that he has. So like the Suns, like the Clippers, this is why they are scary because they have this firepower and they have this depth and capability of a great bench, bigs, guard play, can score in multiple ways. So they're dangerous, only if he's healthy. That's fair. I mean, that's what we're all hoping to. Only? Only if he's healthy. If he goes down, it's gonna be a dog fight to get out of the first round. I think it's gonna be a dog fight. They're gonna have a tough series regardless with that. I think with him, it's gonna be tough. All right, fine. Okay, well, how about James Harden? Because as we mentioned, it was his big return to Philadelphia since the trade crowd reaction. About right. We'll always love a healthy boo. I just, I love it. I love it. I got no problem with this. Yeah, I love it. This is Philadelphia. I spent my first eight years there. My first time coming back, I was terrified. Cause they have a history of booing everybody. Well, did you piss everyone off? Well, no, I gotta stand and know. I gotta stand and know. But this is also a city who threw snowballs at Santa Claus. Yeah, they did not. They threw snowballs at Santa Claus. This is a sports town that they feel slighted in the least bit. They're gonna make sure you know that. And obviously had the way that James Harden departed, they was gonna let him know. And this is the beauty of sports, right? And fans, when I left Houston, I went to Dallas and I went back. They booed this shit out of me. Then they played a video. They cheered and as soon as that video ended, guess what? You went right back to keep throwing me. Thank you. As you said that, I gotta stand and know. And then when the game started, the first time I touched the ball, the game back, everybody booed me. There's a protocol as fans, cause I am the fan in this. And I love booing. By the way, I feel like you get booed. I get booed. I'll go to Joe and the juice here and get booed. Yeah, I can see that. Oh, break time. When we come back, Comedian and Portland Trailblazer fan, we found one. Ian Carmel joins the show, talks about it. Blazer had his dope. That has a good hat. I know. Run it back. Run it up. Run it back. Run it up. Run it back. Run it up. Oh, we got a funny man on with us now. Ian Carmel joins us. Standup comic host of all fantasy, everything. The podcast. What's up Ian? Okay, well, we're gonna start right with your hat, right? Because you are a Blazers fan. You grew up in Oregon. So if people were wondering how that happens, that's how it happens. And they've been in tank mode for a minute. What do you do with seasons like this? Cause as a Spurs fan, I get it. It happens. What do you do with these types of seasons? You learn to love the likes of Dewop Wreath and Delano Banton. Who? And you convince yourself that these are going to be major parts of an eventual championship winning team. You lie to yourself. You lie, yeah. You spend years lying to yourself. It takes time. It takes time. It does. It does. And you end up getting really into what is apparently going to be the worst draft class in years. I know. You guys really didn't time that well, did you? Future is bright. The future is bright. That future just might not start until 2026. Future is bright. I'm in the same boat, but we have Wimby. Go on, sorry. Yeah, you're not in the same boat at all. I don't want to hear that. I mean, it sounded good as I started to see. He's in a goddamn canoe. You're right. You're just sort of like on a tube, flung by. I'm in a tube. And there was a chance I was going to get that yacht too. Like last year, there was like, you know, I know you might have, because I cry in, I legit cried when they opened the envelope and it was spurs are getting the number one. Legitimately had tears of joy coming down my face. Like it had already, like we'd won a championship already. How's that? Oh, I remember the feeling because it happened when we drafted Greg Odin. So I'm very familiar with that feeling of excitement that you're about to, you know, join forces with a franchise altering center. It's exactly the same. And so big news in Portland. This past off season, they move on from Damian Lillard. What was your take on that? Did it kind of run its course? Did you think that was the right move at the time? Did you want to keep them? What was your thoughts on that? I was grateful that we would always have the rap albums to remember our time together. You know, honestly, I was happy for him. It felt like an amicable divorce, even if it got a little weird with where he was going to be moving after the divorce was completed. But I think Portland will always love Damian Lillard. I mean, that's my favorite player who I got to watch throughout my career as a Portland Trial Blazers fan. And yeah, it was time for him to go. You know, he'd taken us as far as we were going to go. The team clearly couldn't put winning pieces around him in a way that he needed to have around him at that point. So yeah, I think it's not a single Portland Trial Blazer fan who doesn't wish him well. We're also on a little bit of a Milwaukee Box fan. So now do you still follow? Do you still cheer for him in Milwaukee as long as they're not playing the Trial Blazers? Whoever cheers for you, X. You're awesome. That's a great, that's a great question. We're cheering for him. I swear to God, in Portland, yeah, we are such. You're class X. We're a little bit class X. We a little bit have like a parasocial relationship. Maybe we're like a little bit of like a Cuck fan based due to because of it, but. Maybe that. Everyone, everyone in Portland, they do. There's a little bit of shot in Freud, you know what I mean? When the Doc Bravers thing was first getting off the ground, but now that they're clicking, they're moving, they're winning a lot of games. I think everyone would like to see it happen for Damien Lillard. By the way, revealing moment for Lou who said who roots for their X. So now we know a little bit more about Lou Will than we did yesterday. Bitter, bitter man. Which one? Exactly. I like it. I like it already. I like it. By the way, on the Dame thing, like when it came out that he was bored and my favorite part, lonely, in Milwaukee playing video games, what did you think of that? I thought sounds like Milwaukee. Yeah, checks out. Checks out. But how can Dame Lillard be lonely anywhere? I got a good feeling he's found some companies. He's found people. Since that interview. Reggie Miller, well go ahead, I'm sorry. No, I'm just gonna say Chicago's right down the road, man, you can go find some company, you know, even if it's not Milwaukee. Exactly. Like Austin and San Antonio. Okay, sounds. Quick little ride. Reggie Miller recently said that Dame Lillard is in his top 10. Where would you rank, Dame? Of all time. Personally, I would have Damien Lillard in my top three with Rashid Wallace and Kevin Duckworth, but that's your support on trailblazer thing. Right. Reggie Miller said he's got Damien Lillard in his top 10. He said he got him in his top 10 of all time. That's bad. I think it was a hot take, but you know, it worked. We're talking about it. I thought he meant top 10 shooters of all time. He meant players. Top 10 trailblazers of all time. Yeah. Like what? I thought we were all, I mean, we were all pretty stoked. He made top 75 all time, and I thought that was like a generous and lovely thing to say about him. I don't know about it. Maybe top 10 guys from Oakland, top 10 point guard. Oakland, Oakland list is good. That's the best. The Oakland list is very good. Yeah. The Oakland list of point guard is amazing. Okay, so you got Duckworth, you got Sheed, Clyde Drexler, and David Lillard who of all the players in the history of the trailblazers deserve a statue outside that arena. All right, so Clyde Drexler's kid got this conversation going amongst Blazers fans, and I guess amongst the national media too, the other day. I'll tell you this for free, it's not Clyde Drexler. Why is that? You don't get a statue in front of the Rose Garden when you leave town, when you ask to leave town, and then you go win a championship for another city. That's tough. Where that, like you go into the whole thing, as a Houston rocket. In my opinion, to get a statue, you either have to win a championship with a team, or stay with a team for your entire career and be one of its best players. He didn't do either of those teams or things. So Dan doesn't get a statue either then. So no statue? David Lillard does not get a statue in Portland. Ooh, here's the Statulis Moto Center. Yeah. Statulis, here's who gets the statue. You can have one of Dr. Jack Ramsey talking to Bill Walton and Maurice Lucas, all huddled up together. You got the three of them. Wow. All talking to one another. That could be a statue. I think you have a statue of the person who invented voodoo donuts. It's just a guy holding a pink box. There's one out here now too, and I like it. Okay, we don't get that. They're everywhere. They're spreading. I love donuts. Maybe that guy who rides a unicycle dressed like Darth Vader, holding bagpipes, like he can get a statue. I thought he was just a crackhead in Portland. That doesn't mean he doesn't deserve a statue. Those things are mutually exclusive. Our crackheads are employed. We're a whimsical city. What made you first fall in love with the Blazers? How did that start? So I went to preschool at a place called the Middlemen's Jewish Community Center in Portland, Oregon. And this was in the early 1990s when basketball teams would still practice at places like that before they had practice facilities. It went on longer than you would imagine. That's crazy. I bet it did. Yeah, I practiced at a nursing community college for my first seven years of my career. What? I kind of love it. At a nursing community college? Yes. Yes. Just out there crossing up 78-year-old Jerry. Yeah, like what is it? Okay, all right, go on. I like it. So I went to preschool there and the Blazers practiced at that same facility. So you'd be sitting there like eating a canis in the cafeteria and Jerome Cursey and Clyde Drexler would walk by. R.I.P. R.I.P. Yeah, gotcha. And it was just amazing. The town, the city has always loved the Blazers. We have two soccer teams now, but we are primarily a one sport town for most of my life. So I just fell in love with them then and I assumed that it was a, oh, we go to the finals every couple of years' experience for the rest of my life. And it has not been the case, but it started like that. That's awesome. So you've been to a lot of games, obviously. Also, Portland's one of the hardest, craziest fans that we've ever played there. I love playing at Portland. It's awesome playing there, especially in the post-season. My least favorite game ever, obviously, was when that gagger put me out of my misery. That's my worst game ever in Portland. What is your favorite game you've ever been to as a Portland and what's your least favorite game you've ever been to? I'm actually glad you brought that up because I happen to be at the game where Damien Lillard hit the shot over you. Oh, no. Yeah. Y'all believe the snare that day. Hell of a shot. You've heard it louder in the Rose Garden than I think it's ever been in the Rose Garden before. I think even louder than it was. Eat curl. Not to say any names, but James Harden was supposed to switch. He did it, and then just in the, in the statue, it's going to go up front. It's going to be my little white ass like this. It would be. That's a weird answer. That would be the picture. You're going to get half a statue. I'm going to be the Jalen Rose in the statue. Why are you going to get like a full arm, though? He's going to get an arm in the statue. You were there. That's kind of amazing that you were there for his worst. I love that. I was, I was hammered. I was in the crowd. I'm actually in the footage of you hitting that shot. You can find me. I decided to wear a tie at that game for some reason. Yeah. So I'm in the crowd cheering. My arm goes up before it goes in. You knew it. I knew why you, he had you guarding him, so I knew it would not. It all comes out now. Okay. So what's the worst game? What's the worst game you ever attended? Well, not because of our burgeoning friendship. I'm going to say that too, because I feel so bad for you. Oh, that's nice. Thank you. Thank you. See, just like that, you guys are besties. By the way, I just have to tell you, when I was 13 and the Spurs were playing the Trailblazers for the Western Conference Finals, that was the first time I sports cried. And the Trailblazers, and by the way, this is before anybody here was probably even alive. How many times have you sports cried since? Probably like four, like Chris Paul's, you know, game seven, hits a three. Those types, they're all Spurs related. It's a complete sign. Do you ever cry after like an NBA game? See? Like, I cried. I lost the state championship. That was the last time I think I cried in like the basketball game. I think fans cry more than you guys, right? And we cry, but they don't really cry. What does that mean? I think you guys care more than I do. I think it means that we're not making like 20 million dollars a year. You guys care? And the cheques still cash. Yeah, right? And when it goes, we booze. This is not okay. We discovered something better. All right, we got to get to the podcast. All fantasy, everything, and I love this because you guys draft anything and everything. And I'm talking, it doesn't have to be sports. It can be chips, action stars, bald people, which I think is amazing. In the first pick, and the things not to do at an NBA game draft, I know this is, what is your first pick? I think my first pick is leave early. Oh, that's a good one. That's a good one. You don't leave early. This is one that kills me, especially this season in Portland, every game I've gone to, when I'm back home in Portland, people are increasingly leaving early. And that's not what you do. That's how we need to separate ourselves from the Miami fans, the Laker fans. Blazer's fans stay. Thank you. And we watch our team get beat by the Atlanta. That's fine, but you stay. Good, bad, and ugly. Best halftime show, first pick. All right, first pick. And this is almost a career achievement pick. I know. More than it is a right now pick, but it's gotta go to Red Panda. Red Panda, yeah. Who's Red Panda? What? Lou, what else? Even if you don't know Red Panda, you know Red Panda, Red Panda. What's the act? The woman on the giant unicycle with the plates. Oh, that's my favorite. She kicks them up on her head. Michelle, look at me. Do I supposed to know her name is Red Panda? If a person's named Red Panda, you should know. I'm a little busy at halftime, Michelle. Okay, you know what? Ian, this is why fans and players can't get along. It doesn't even know her name. No, well, that's probably the worst thing about being an NBA player. I don't see her on the screen, there's no meta or anything. They don't see the halftime. We don't see it. Ian, we're gonna move on to college basketball here. You went to Portland State University, who have zero final four appearances. Are you into March Madness and who are you rooting for this year? Are you following at all? I always have a soft spot for the Oregon Ducks, but no, I just recorded a standup special last weekend. So then, not as in touch with March Madness as I normally am. Who should I be rooting for this year? North Carolina. I can't root for North Carolina. So you know what's interesting about North Carolina? We said North Carolina has the same average age as the Oklahoma City Thunder. So I can't root for that. They're like Van Wilder over there. They're 23 years old playing college basketball. Bunch of guys getting their doctorates? What's going on out there? Bunch of med students. Well, that's how it used to be back when they'd stay four years. We're just going back. I know how it's like five, six years. Seven, eight, yeah. COVID. COVID year, you get the transfer year. It's unbelievable. I mean, even I've retired since COVID. They got to go home. Ian, if you, okay, I'll give you a team. NC State has this big dude named DJ Burns. Little baby Zebo. Yeah. And he's like, he's adorable. He has a side hustle that he tells all of his teammates about where he has vending machines and he's making, just love. Yeah. Cause you can't root for the dude. Oh, I like this guy. Yeah, you're gonna like this guy. Did you Google him? He got snacks. He has a full unit. He's a, he's settled down channel. He is a full, he looks like a dude is like cooking everybody a 24 hour fitness. He looks, he looks exactly like that. And he's got game. And he does. And he's lovable. So yes, that's the one. NC State is the one. We're gonna do a little rookie of the year here because for the entire season, since day one, it's Chad Holmgren and that's all they talk about. And I've been obviously fighting the good Wemby fight, which will clearly be right. Where are you on this controversial debate? I think it clearly needs to go to school because... I had schooled as my early pick. He did have it. I had him as my early pick. It hadn't went my way. It hasn't, but lately he's really been playing. He's run through the rookie wall and the rookie wall has shattered around him. Chad Holmgren, I mean, if we're being completely serious about it, it can't be Chad Holmgren. A, not a rookie. Thank you. Not a rookie. B, he's surrounded by, I mean, if you put Victor Wemba and Yama in Chad Holmgren's place on the Thunder, he will be putting up even crazier stats than he is right now in San Antonio. Chet's amazing. He's great. We're very lucky we get to watch him in the NBA for the next, you know, 10, 15 years. But Wemba and Yama's doing stuff already. That makes me... But he's losing every time you do it. He is, but it's not his fault. Like, which guy would you take on your team going forward? Thank you. No, that's not the argument. 100%. But there's one guy that's averaging 17, eight and three on the best team in the West. There's one guy averaging, whatever, 19... We're speaking as athletes. And the worst team in the West. That's our only argument is, okay, this guy's doing it on a shit team. The other guy's doing it on the best team. Well, do the Celtics have a rookie on their team this year? Because then we should just give it to him, right? Yeah, exactly. And by the way, he's surrounded by good players. He's had a whole extra year of this. Yeah, but sort of Blake Griffin, he won rookie of the year. Victor Wemba and Yama. I don't think that's right either. He has been a pro for five years already. Oh, so now the Europe game is all comparable. But usually we're like, what's not to see? It's comparable to the kids sitting out and working out every day. And I can't take it anymore. What I'm hearing is that we need to reach a compromise. And that compromise lives in Portland, Oregon. It's scooted. All right, scooted is. I'm good, I'm good with it. It was scooted to make me look like a genius. I'm down for it. It's true. Play the long game, don't worry. You're gonna get born out in five, six years when he's getting his first statue, the first statue that a current NBA player gets in front of an arena. It's scooted. Did you happen to watch the Clippers' six years game last night and see the color? I didn't. Did you see this? Where he just goes individually, ethers and offends every referee and then decides to go with their mothers calling them all bitches. Yes, I did. I didn't see the game, but I did catch that particular highlight. And then I counted another 43 times throughout the course of the evening. Oh my God. God, I love it so much. It's unbelievable. Have you, hey, by the way, you need to use this in one of your next stand-ups. Any time you get heckled or booed, just go with their mothers. Have you ever done anything like this? I unfortunately have done something like that. If you do it at the end of the set, it goes okay. If you do it at the beginning, it's kind of hard to get the crowd back. Oh, wow. The timing is everything. An hour of awkwardness. If he captured that and put it up on Instagram, by the way, that would be one of the bigger crowd war clips. Oh, God. That I've seen before. He'd probably get his followers real fast. Late last season, you tweeted, you would kill for Dylan Brooks if he were a trailblazer. Why Dylan Brooks? You get me, Ian. I just kind of think that's the guy you want on your team. When he's on the other team, you're like, I hope a bear eats him. I hope he falls off a bridge. Like, you hate that guy. But when that person is on your team, out there instigating on your behalf, yes, sometimes it goes wrong. Sometimes it ends up with LeBron taking it personally and then taking that out on your team. But that's what LeBron does anyway. But every like, you guys tell me, does the player like Dylan Brooks ever get in your head to the point where it throws off your game a little bit? No, no, he's just, that's what he does. He's like a Patrick Beverly, that's his role. But again, you do like it when it's on your team, but when it's not on your team, it's cringy, it's eye rolling. It's awesome. Cringy and eye rolling, but does it ever take you out of your game? Are you ever like, I want to hit a shot over this guy? So you take a shot you wouldn't normally take. Wait, so you're saying you don't think LeBron's, I think LeBron remembers it and that he uses that. Maybe it's backfiring for Dylan Brooks, but. No, is that the only time we've seen LeBron and go get 40 points? Like no. I love Dylan Brooks. I'm with you Ian, I think he's hilarious. He's a character. I just love having a villain. The more characters we have. I'm down for that. I like that. In the league who are just like, oh, we got this guy tonight. Then you get to watch his antics in addition to the game. I think it makes for a more enriching fan experience. Well, Draymond might be available. No. Yeah, by the way, would you want Draymond on your team? Would you want that smoke in Portland? Not this team. I think it would be a bad experience for both parties if you joined this team, but if it was the Blazers team from 2019, 2018, would love Draymond Green on that team. I mean, he is good at what he does. The, you know, 61 games, he's not suspended. Exactly. I think that's annoying. When's a special come out, Ian? It's gonna come out sometime in June. We don't have an exact date yet, but the special, the book, everything drops at the same time. Good busy month. All right, we appreciate the time so much. Maybe the Troubles would be good in a couple of years and we'll still be on the air and then we can have like a whole big party. Be great. I'll come back to celebrate when it's Cooper Flag, Scoot, and then out. Oh, there it is. I like that for you. All right, we're doing that. It's Tron's watchman. Carmel, we'll be back. Run it back, run it back, run it up. They run it back, y'all, y'all. Run it up, run it back, like a run it back, y'all. Families, we'll start with, well, this just seems rude. Tatum on Murray. Oh, the old bloke. Oh my God, remove his appendix. He's beating him. That's not, the kids not count. Whoa, here's the thing, this is nice, but he dunked on a point card. Did you see his fancy coach watch ad, Jason Tatum's got out? He's like, sassy modeling, yeah. For watches? For watches, please. Better than coach. Look, I'm not gonna say anything. Better than coach. What do we have here? Where's the highlight? By the way, it should have gotten its own segment, but Mitchell Robinson's back, y'all. Oh, he is. Oh, and Gabe Vincent possibly coming back this weekend. Don't care as much. Glenn, oh, he plays with a piston. I understand. It makes it. How about, this is two stars, here you go. This was great. And the timing of this was great. Buzzer beating. It forces all the time, come on. I feel like he maybe should want the floater instead of the, Well, I mean, he probably thinks that now too. Yeah, he probably shouldn't want anything other than this. Anything but that. He did this twice, by the way. He did this in regulation and in second overtime. Yeah, ADs on fire. Chet Holmgren. Oh, what's the record? He had a year. Oh, this was nice. Oh, not the two-for-two-hand block. I watched that a few times. I'll be able to cock back. By the way, that dunk was going to be beautiful. He tried to cock it there on him. Excuse me? Don't say it again. He said it the first time. Don't say it again. We ignored him the first time. I didn't get the reaction I wanted the first time. Oh, so you should say it again. Moses. Oh, a Joe Engels victimization. I am not here for this. Oh, no, no. What, he didn't even do anything. He just put it with three in and out in the world. Three in and out burgers. Oh, man. Oh, man. That's not fair. That's crazy. Oh, great. This one's for you. Oh, dear. Chandler. Why? Yeah. Hey. Oh, son. Say that last thing. Hey. Oh, we said this is the last one. I see, but this is a possible three seconds. This is the last one. So, yeah, let me see this again. One, Mr. City. Two, Mr. City. Three, Mr. City. Four, Mr. City. Five. Oh, check, Bob. Bob going the other way. Oh, that was a nice one. Five. Oh, check, Bob. Bob going the other way. That might have been a minute. Uh-huh. You're right. But it looks cool. It's nasty. Well, he's going to keep it. Peyton's second. Oh, dear. Oh, dearness. By the way, if he dunked that, he can't block it. And Steph Curry is part of the clip. I'm going to step it out of the way. I know. Steph thought he was going to dunk it. That's a great business decision, Steph. That's good. LeBron James. LeBron James. LeBron's second. Quick report. LeBron on Scotty Pippin Jr. Ooh, it's like Inception. Mm. Everything's coming together. Scotty Pippin Jr. Is that court-post to look like this is somewhere. Yeah, we, or something happened to us. Vaudevillian Platinum. I hate it. Platinum is what they call it. I mean, no, I'm sorry, I love it. I don't want Memphis to say it. I actually think they like it. Oh, they like it. You guys. I feel like they did something. You're part of the gang, Natalie and Michelle. They like, Stephia, the video. Memphis is going to get you. They love this show. Oh, this was nasty. Oh! Oh, oh, that's not that's that's uncle Jeff. I hate that. That's uncle Jeff. You can't you can't you don't do that You don't do that and you need to respect or even out of the hash either. So you got it. Yeah, you don't do that Uncle Jeff. Oh my good dear. That was intimate. I don't love that for him. That made me sad That made me sad lose that we've lost Lou for the day. Oh, geez man. Get out the way uncle Jeff I kind of respect that he you know how many people he's hunched on that's fair to you Yeah, he tried to do the right thing he tried to get on On the film play that was yeah, I watch that over. I feel bad watching it over and over and let's stop playing it It seems rude. We'll take a quick break come back a little more run it back in a moment Well, we got some rockets thunder for you. No SGA rockets beat. Okay. See 132 126 in overtime 10 straight, baby Green Green's a new man 37 points nine rebounds seven assists. Why do you look at me when I say that Josh giddy? By the way, we haven't spoken of him lately 31 points. I'm Fire right now. I'm sorry. I didn't do any of these things Chet Holmgren fouled out with nine minutes left in the fourth But I want to throw that in there. It just seemed like a fun stat I don't know what these of the year should not fell out. It's not a great place for Chet Holmgren I'll just go say this show or this game. I'm not a hater if he was any other year I'd be all about Chet. Can we talk about tarry eason who exactly but he's out for the season and he posted a Video last night. No Why would you do this if you're tarry eason because this is not a good He's out this Come out to play like that. It's not like that. This is why why is he doing that? He's putting pressure on some guys that he can't even help he is really doing this This is just a small example of a team. That's just like not that's the key ready When I see that right I speak it fluent I don't hate the the trash talk, but it's just the wrong message But you're not even playing and it's also you're not playing your office season and you you still are currently the 11th you're not you don't know but I mean they are hot. They're hot And I actually like his game too. I may Okay, yes, yes, they capital T Jalen Green Jen Green is hot right now What What are we seeing from Jalen Green is this his star turn officially? We're seeing a lot of points We're seeing them play a different style with sangoon out now. They're playing faster He's got the ball in his hands more and even last night, you know 14 for 24 37 points tennis Ten rebounds that is a complete game and he has had this potential ever since he's been coming up into the draft He has had that star potential He has had a player to possibly build around and now he's showing it without singoon I hope he finds a way to have that attack and that same mindset when he's back because those two together Should be the core of this team for years to come but this has been a great opportunity to me and Lou I always talk about this team is playing loose. They're playing free when singoon went out, especially there was zero Expectations, this is okay. What pick are they gonna get they're out the war the those four teams the Kings Mabs warriors Lakers They're gonna be in the fight They're literally one game behind these guys and the Warriors Is there clearly have a bunch of distraction and a lot of other stuff going on this team's ball right now I know SGA and I is out last night But this is this is the most impressive Streak to me of all this the entire season this with this team winning the games They're sees their schedule has been a little light recently. It's gonna get harder But this is the best team in the Western Conference without their best player fine But they still went on the road and found a way to win a game as a young team I'm excited about it. I think he's found something that works for him confidence wise. He's motivated You know, he's he said publicly. He's motivated by his family and everything that's going on with him And it's in his work and over ten games. He's looked like the Jalen Green that we've all Ya'll can't do this to me. I'm not doing it. I'm not even looking at you But he looks like the Jalen Green that we've all come to really enjoy and the expectations that we've had for him It is kind of nuts that they are crazy. I was screened by myself. I know I know that again Here we go. Yeah, we go. Did you get superpowers when you made a child was made it out. Did you guys get superpowers? Oh, yeah, I did. I did. I remember because he credited You